Shaq is too BITTER to admit the truth about Rudy Gobert...
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“you wanna impress me? Hold Joker under 15 points.” Gotta be the dumbest shit I ever heard dawg 😂
literally jokic sometimes holds HIMSELF to under 15 and they still win, bro will have 8 pts 13 rbs and 12 asts and they win regardless
Right! Shaq wouldn't be able to hold Joker to 15 points. People got to understand that Shaquille O'Neal have problems with centers like Joker big centers that can actually play in the post but they can also stretch you out shoot the elbow shot they got to handle that can shoot the three Shaq had super problems with those type of NBA centers it wasn't many in his time but the ones that were in his time he struggled against those guys.
@@flawless39Shaq was not a good defender in LA
@@legendarywiimasterbut Shaq could guard jokic and jokic can’t do nothing with him
@@nomad4411 Shaq isn't guarding anyone at the three point line my dude.
"he's 7"6 ofc he'll get blocks" he's listed at 7"1...same height as you..
Bro sound like flight reacts
Exactly and Shaq never lead league in rebounds or blocks even in his prime when all the greats retired
@Bigedub101 looking at the averages over career, I'm pretty sure Barkley averaged more rebounds than Shaq and he's over 6 inches shorter.
@@Bigedub101come on mayn gobert ain’t fuckin with shaq😂
@@osh420 not what the conversation is about but ok?
I’m convinced the only time Shaq watches games is when he’s in the TNT studio 🤣
I don’t even think he’s watching then
@@X_Online801Kenny said Shaq don’t watch games at all
Facts. He won't even take 5 min to look up adv stats that show Rudy's the greatest defender all time and not close. Shaq a legend with huge platform and he needs to be better. Shaq a casual
How can someone as successful and great as Shaq was, be this bitter and envious, bro is one of the all time greats why’s he always hating on big man.
"SPS"
Small Penis Syndrome
Xenophobia
Shaq has always been bitter and insecure. Just look at post-game locker room interviews during that Lakers tenure. He would throw jabs at Kobe, and when he did it right back, Shaq got all defensive. Great, fun personality and player, but when he hates, it gets really insufferable
People hated on shaq when he was young and they said the same things history repeats itself
@@yct2.0 Stop it. He loves Joker and hated on Dwight Howard just as hard
Why can't old heads just appreciate the game instead of hating
I mean Rudy ain’t nun crazy to talk about tho fr like compared to the other centers ofc
@@destinedforgreatness3030It’s still just wild to hate on Rudy like that though. I’d understand more if he was like an Ayton or someone with motor questions but not someone that clearly cares about playing hard.
@@BlkStar99 I mean ig I feel like if ur limited skills wise then u should be so impactful with one thing like Rudy should be bill Russell or Ben Wallace levels of impactful on defense if he don’t really got a offensive game
Shaq normally gives props to the current generation but he just always has something personal with centers. It's weird ngl.
@@destinedforgreatness3030he’s literally more impactful than Bill and Ben Wallace. Like defensive numbers quite literally say this
Honestly I would pay money to see 400lb Lakers Shaq have to defend guys on the permiter multiple times a game, switch onto Guards and close out on 3s like modern bigs all have to do. Just because defense is different doesn't mean it os "worse".
Shaq was complaining about peja and vlade. Shaq would get cooked.
@@1990POE ya, like, no one can truly be elite at defending ALL areas of the floor, and if Shaq slimmed down to the point he could defend in space better, he wouldn't be nearly as dominant on offense- but offense is more important anyways, which is why many people have him over Hakeem and Timmy all time.
It’s interesting that what’s necessary to be a great defender in todays game is so vastly different than any other era.
@@roscoeorginal yep, like in any sport, the game changes, but the NBA has, more than any other sport, fans and former players that think it should remain static and unchanging.
I wouldn’t, people complain about too much offense as is. Shaq would be putting up 60 a game today while giving up 60 himself. Let’s not forget bill lambeer doing pick and pops was giving shaq fits, make him guard a modern mobile center who can shoot, while being in a pick and roll every play? Shaq might stop playing defense by the third quarter.
shaq is full of ego
At times. He gives the modern players props too
@@Greidyelcuhbut he always hates on centers
@@liluzilean4796 yeah it honestly weird
He should have ego. He’s a top 10 player of all time
@@sleeve9097that does not give him the leeway to be as big of a hater as he is
And oldheads wonder why we are saying “WE DONE WITH THE 90s” they just can’t give the players today their credit for nothing dawg🤦🏽♂️
We all the way finished.
What about the 2000s?
Sure that's why.
@@alexsmith3598I come from the 90s and we ain't worried about your sift cotton candy generation
@@darnellwilliams8783frfr this shit today is threes and matador defense joker shouldn’t be able to do half the shit he does
Funny how Shaq will not hesitate to praise AD's defense, yet Joker smoked him in the playoffs last year. Now suddenly its a problem that he did well against Gobert? Dude just replaced Dwight Howard with Gobert and is hating
Breaking News: Shaq chugs entire bottle of haterade before going on a podcast. Entire community left unsurprised.
So basically what he always does like why he hate Howard too..
This is exactly why LeBron James paired up with JJ for their podcast. It’s clear as day that a lot of the retired players don’t understand/watch the current game of basketball.
They do watch it …. They just hating lmao
It ain’t just the retired players. A lot of current guys talk nonsense just as much
No, lebrons tryna obfuscate the steroid rumors and jj just wants clout lmao bs #wedonewithlebalco
@@TheIcemanthomasYou are right
@@Coldassyeah the steroid rumors that have been going on since Miami and have been debunked multiple times before. Makes sense that in the year of our lord 2024 he chooses to argue against it now.
A “TH-camr” being able to explain Defense better than a Hall of Fame NBA player speaks volumes on so many levels
Maybe Shaq should keep his mouth shut about an era he didn’t play in, doesn’t watch, and doesn’t understand if he doesn’t want his dumbass opinions to be exposed by modern NBA fans.
Exactly
Stop the glazing
Rudy a bum
@@BoosterGoldEarth6 I guess you think holding Jokic under 15 is a good take.
No it doesn't lol many ppl know ball more than NBA players
Never understood how someone as successful as shaq could continue to be insecure.
Right? He’s consistently listed as a top 10 player all time. He has a good argument for being the greatest big man of all time. Why’s he hating on Gobert so much? Nobody on the planet thinks Gobert is better than Shaq
Maybe because he knows that what everyone says about him is true. That as great as he was, he could have been much greater if he had been more disciplined. Perhaps he's scared that he might be surpassed by a player that he should have been greater than if he had stayed in shape. The greatest insecurity comes from knowing that you didn't do as well as you could have done. From your own 'potential'.
@@coreyshafarman8918I think it’s because of how much Rudy gets paid but Rudy is known for his defense
If you read Shaq's biography and learn about his upbringing, you'll realize Shaq has daddy issues. He internalized the whole military thing as positive but it was actually abuse...
Shaq is literally just a casual who got a job as an analyst because he happens to be an ex-player
Shaq's sense of humor is his only saving grace on Nba on Tnt, otherwise he would've been replaced along time ago...
By all accounts Shaq was just big and agile for his size. Kobe didn’t fuck with him because of his lack of care for the actual game.
Hey now, other nba players who watch the games toss out terrible takes all the time too, he might not be a casual, he might’ve just made it as far in the league as he did off absurd natural talent and just not know the game that well.
@bryanfoster326 Nah, unapologetically Shaq is a casual. His silly takes are way too frequent. It's genuinely like he doesn't watch games at all. This, combined with the fact that he's OBVIOUSLY bitter about today's game and the fact that certain players make more money than him.
I'm not saying he knows nothing about basketball, or something. Obviously he was amazing in his prime, one of the best to ever do it, but he's such a poor analyst, and yet that's what he's getting paid to do - analyse the game.
@@PeterBarkerMusic lol, we definitely agree on him clearly being bitter, but I’m saying he might just not know ball like that. So many of his takes are just absurdly bad, and he doesn’t really seem to have much in the way of analysis skills, that I’m kinda convinced he just made it so far before because he’s one of the greatest physical specimens of all time which overcame the fact that he just doesn’t have ball IQ.
Shaq got embarrassed by Hakeem in the finals. Absolutely outclassed. What elite centers has he locked down?
But Hakeem is overwhelmingly considered the most skilled big man in NBA history.
Exactly bro so why tf expect RUDY GOBERT to lock down one of the greats if he himself couldn’t do it🤦🏾♂️ old ahh hatin cuz the bags are bigger nowadays. Let’s be real when it comes to the greats there’s no true way to stop them. That’s why they’re considered GREAT
Gobert earning DPOY multiple times in THIS era of basketball as a Center, with all of those pick and roles, screens and all of the scoring being done in todays NBA is amazing to me, and my favorite era as an NBA fan was the 90s and 2010s. I just don't get why Shaq is hating on him.
Shaq this era would've been cooked af with all the switching involved in defense and stretch bigs 😂😂😂😂 Yea he would dominate the paint but could he play the pace that this era requires?
If they don’t like you, you don’t deserve to be paid, but if they like you, they’ll be preaching that the league/team is stealing your money or that you’re undervalued, it all depends on who likes you and who doesn’t, Rudy should see this, look at his bank and laugh because at the end of the day it means nothing as long as his contact is met and he gets his money.
Hating on someone for being overpaid is crazy blame the people paying even if he's overrated 😂
tbh i hate that most fans nowadays will shit onna player and be in total agreement until an old head shits on them then fans come out the woodwork defending said player
those fans are called casuals
Shaq is the definition of a bitter old head when it comes to centers
Bro thank you, im a jazz fan and the Rudy hate has to stop
As a T-Wolves fan, he has won me over. He's actually got a pretty good sense of humor. He does frustrate you at times because he has ping pong paddles for hands.
Yeah Rudy has been averaging 12 & 8 but he has anchored multiple top tier defense for at least the past 6-7 years. He has 3 and will win his 4th DPOY this season
Just by that he shouldn't be tied with dikembe and Ben Wallace with the most dpoys that's insane id rather have people that have 1 or 2 dpoys over Rudy gobert
@@davidornelas-iq3in Now you know why people say Jordan or Iverson would tear up this era. There just isnt defense anymore.
you can't be Defensive Player of the YEAR when ppl are looking for you off screens in the playoffs. Rudy Gobert can hold down the inside but that's about it, he's stolen a couple of DPOYs.
@@sunnydlite-t8b exactly what ever even happens to players like mj Kobe tony Allen Bruce bowen Kevin Garnett ak47 etc?
@@kesavenelayapallavan7414yes you can. DPOY is a season award not a playoff award. If Rudy Gobert has stolen a few dpoys before tell me who should've won it when he won the award instead?
TBH Shaq is so much better than rudy so Rudy making more than him hurts. Still hating though
Well it’s a different era everybody makes more money now than they did back then
He’s only making more in nba contracts. Shaq is probably making way more off the court than rudy makes on the court.
Yeah, we get that. But Shaq never will. Demar DeRozan made more annually in 16-17 than Shaq's biggest year around 05-06. And it's only gone up. Like now people are making almost double Shaq's highest payday. No wonder he's mad. It doesn't mean he's worse. And nobody goes backward saying they're worse, the olds just get all pissy. If I'm offered $50M, I'm taking $50 damn M.
Its weird to single out Rudy for his pay, when players in general have had huge pay increases.
Lamelo’s extension pays him more than Jordan made in his whole career, and Jordan signed off on Lamelo’s deal. 😂
Shaq always been petty. To be fair Shaq probably been the guy since he was like 8 years old when he was 6'7
I’m sure Chilltown can attest to that
"Oh u play defense? Hold the mvp below 15" boy what😭😭😭😭😭😭
I’m a proud old head and growing up Shaq was the most dominant big ever! That being said none of those gentlemen past or present are holding Joker to 15 at some point we have to draw a line between criticism and hate.
This is why we're done with the 90s. These old heads are so freaking delusional
Shaq was known for being 2000s player all of his rings are in the 2000s lol
So ur discrediting an era of players before 2000 because a couple of old heads are delusional. This is why nba discourse will never change. I’m not gonna act like the old heads are right but ur just listening to the minority as they get the most exposure because of these takes. Most of them don’t say nothing.
@@yahiaali4059same sentiment
The whole done wit the 90s trend is filled with delusional people.
Shaq carried Kobe
Great video bro. Ngl I miss the playback videos 😢
#WeDoneWithThe90s
We done with the 90s
Cringe
What about the 2000s?
we cool with the 2000s .. after the lockout you can clearly see a shift@@daevonthesavage7483
This is why we are done with the 90s
2000s*
I don’t understand the money logic with the OGs. Rudy makes 200m because of Shaq and others who paved the way in the league and Rudy reaps the benefits from his work just like Shaq benefited from the ones before him like Magic and Larry did for him.
But he'll hype up Bol Bol just to hate on Wemby. 😂😂😂
Shaq doesn't hate on Wemby, he just shows support for someone he tried to help develop. Shaq has called out Bol Bol for being lazy several times.
@conchobar listen to him talk bad about all other big men, but speak up for Bol Bol whom he says is lazy. Ok
Shaq gotta have a very small one
Usually big guys are pretty chill
Hold Joker Under what? As if HE was known for defense. 🤦🏾♀️
The “new media” sucks
Just players bitching about pay. Lol
This is why “We done with the 90s” started. These old players don’t know when to just shut the fuck up and now people are just reciprocating
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Shaq one of the biggest haters in the history of the nba
1. Jokic averages 20/10/7 against Gobert career wise but since 2019-20 he averages 28/11/9.8. clearly a falloff. Yet Gobert (probably) will win DPOY this year due to this recent run without KAT.
2. Brook Lopez makes $24 Million a year and his stat line this year is *checks notes* 12/5/1.
3. Deandre Ayton is putting up the same stat line that Shaq mentioned and he's getting $30 million a year. Shaq could definitely clear Rudy Gobert money based off of name alone with that stat line.
4. Yes, Shaq hates on a lot of centers.
See how multiple things can be true at once?
I think he is overrated on defense too tbh like just a lil bc he could be more impactful on defense I prefer ad or Giannis
He’s been the anchor of a top rated defense for the past 7 seasons. Always top of the league in opponent paint fg% and guess who people take the least paint shots against??
@@niqowyd I’m not saying he ain’t good but his defense ain’t so amazing to where it’s like Ben Wallace to where it is resulting in a championship or deep playoff runs
@@destinedforgreatness3030 I just replied to another dub who brought up Ben Wallace lmao completely different team and era. Do people just forget Ben had another good ass rim protector next to him in Sheed? Rudy got KAT next to him😂
the hate around him is still so unnecessary he can't control being given a 100 million contract what they give is what you take and his given a great contract he be dumb to reject it and mfer hating him cuz of it no other center is hating on rudy other than shaq this guy still beefing with dwight when nobody cares about it anymore
@@destinedforgreatness3030 numbers say he has better defensive impact but if you wanna dumb it down and bring up a ring from 20 years ago sure. Ben didn’t have to play Jokic in the 1st round lmao
The amount of hate Rudy got is shameful. The media killed him in Utah because he could not cover 4 of his teammates bad defense at the same damn time and was made out to be a scapegoat for Donovan Mitchell.
Even with all of that is he overpaid... f*** to the yes.
And they wonder why the youth disrespects the 90s
Shaq don't do nothing but hate
This channel is gold.
honestly i don’t even hate shaqs take. For how much Gobert makes and how much the Wolves gave up for him he is kinda overpaid
You're right making this video, we need to be analytical 😊
It’s crazy to think some of these expert nba analysts are casually watching the game.
Do a video on him saying Dwight shouldn’t get his jersey retired
A lot of them 90s bigs wouldn’t be starting in this league now.
I hope you not talking about the all time great centers because they actually would 🤣🤣
This is cap
@BAMA-MAN256 They absolutely wouldn't, they would be useless on offense and get absolutely cooked on the perimeter.
If you have no offensive game besides dribbling 39 times trying to back someone down you don't have a job in today's nba
@@daevonthesavage7483 the 1% would be able to play in any era, but most of the bigs of the 90s are completely useless in today's league
@@daevonthesavage7483 no fool I’m not talking about the all time centers
hello low
Shaq is the same guy he was as a youngin. He invented a beef w/David Robinson, that should tell you everything you need to know.
Had one with Bill Walton that lasted years too because of some slight (and legit) criticism Walton shot his way when Walton was an NBA analyst.
When y’all dropping a playback video man??
Bam doesn’t have 3 Dpoys so bad argument for gobert. He’s not as good a defender as ben Wallace
Ahh, yes, my favorite pastime; LOW calling out old heads for being hypocrites, you gotta love it.
Wonder why folks are saying they're done with the older generations of basketball it stems from those barbershop talks of thrashing the newer generation while not watching the newer product can't make this up 😂
They do the same thing with draymond just because you aren’t great in one specific thing doesn’t mean you aren’t a good defender
I believe he is a good Defender. But not a lockdown defender. He does his job. He gets exposed on the perimeter because of his footwork. But that's the problem with all centers. The bigger you are, the less Lateral movement you have.
On one hand, Shaq is one of the biggest philanthropists, happy and loving dude. On the other hand he's a dude that ate himself out of the league and hates anybody 6'10 and up
Shaq thought that we forgot about his Boston days 💀
11:06 funny enough, Embiid was in that same situation in the offs last year when Tatum torched his ass in game 7
Y’all defend Rudy like he’s freaking Hakeem lol.
I think the "Gobert is an overrated defender" thing comes from a lack of recognition for other arguably better defenders in today's league. The media members who vote for the awards clearly don't watch a lot of basketball and have little understanding of defense so they just give it to the guy with the most blocks. That's why we so rarely get perimeter players winning DPOY. Smart had to make a big deal about it to get their attention.
3:08 pause.. put some respect on the late great name... 😂😂
Shut up Shaq!! Ain’t nobody holding Joker to 15points!! His bag is to deep!
Rudy is one of the weirdest players in my mind. He got overpaid and it made people think he was overrated, but I've only heard people describe him accurately or as dogshit, I've never heard anyone overrate him. I honestly think his years in Utah is one of the most impressive defensive stints as he basically solo held a decent defense for years.
For a while I’ve been wondering who you reminded me of and finally it clicked that it was the comedian Ryan Davis, your manner of speaking and mannerisms resemble him a lot.
Shaq should learn a crazy concept called inflation so he doesn’t keep acting like a salty old man
Kobe was doing whattttt, that line was wild😂😂😂
Rudy Gobert just stepping on a court makes that team a top 10 defense. The numbers back it up.
Utah was highly ranked when gorbet was there and surprise now Minnesota is highly ranked
Props to you for giving flowers to Rudy
What I find really weird about the "keep Jokic under 15" thing is that Jokic is the one big who can still absolutely shred your team while getting 14 points.
That dude can drop 14 points but give you 18 rebounds and 17 assists while completely running the game.
If u a center n shaq hatin on u you on the right track 😂
nah cuz Kobe really was cooking Timmy on drop coverage LMFAOO
The nerve of Shaq to talk about someone’s era being weak on bigs and another persons defense when he wasn’t a good defender
We ask that of ad , dwight howard what u mean we dont ask
Again man context... You can't use the argument "if Mutumbo, Hakeem, Duncan" etc played in an era where the game was more perimeter oriented without also saying rudy Gobert is a great interior defender in an era where very few bigs dominate from the block. Its the same argument with Wemby, people keep calling him a great defender. He's a great shot blocker who's still not a great defender. People for years talked about Steven Adams strength and interior defense. The man has no idea of how to guard the low block and I can show you clip after clip of him having no idea and no plan when a guy with a real post game caught an entry on the low block. For a guy like Shaq to look at Gobert and say, well, he's not a great block defender based on the era I played in and in this era you can't play drop with him, you can't switch with him. You can't blitz him extended. So he's less versitile version of Marcus Camby? They only gave Camby DPOY once?
Jayson Tatum and Jalen Green couldn't go left in the NBA Finals so the lost because of turnovers 😂😂😂 Boston played 90s style defense on the league and bear Brooklyn when they had KD and Kyrie. The Finals gad some lower scoring games because Boston defense on Golden State. But Golden State one up them by forcing Jayson Tatum left😂😂😂
In last year's playoffs jokic averaged 26/12/9 on 58% TS against gobert. Against Bam it was 30/14/7 on 67% TS😅
I just wish you’d sit with Shaq and have this conversation. See how’d go. People pick at Shaq like he doesn’t know the game or something. The man is one of the greatest to ever do it. He knows basketball. His thoughts on today’s game is because guys like gobert aren’t built like him and he doesn’t score. Him getting so much money for just being a deterrent probably seems bizarre to a guy who was such a generational talent like Shaq. If the rules were changed to a more aggressive physical game I’d be interested to see Gobert’s impact on the court. If he’d be in the paint banging around.
The beef with Dwight was jealousy because Dwight accomplished more with less in Orlando than Shaq. Rudy on the other hand is pretty laughable. He’s a great asset for the T-Wolves but his liability on offense would truly show if he wasn’t surrounded by Ant and KAT
Gobert almost never GET'S to shut down 1 player coaches prefer to use him to shut down paint to all instead with very few exceptions. In fact look up "Luka v Rudy late in 4th" it shows Luka go at Rudy 4-5 straight times to determine the game and coach didnt bring help or switch out Rudy just 2 studs on an island for the game. Rare situation when Rudy was best used to shut down 1 guy since it was Luka time.
You have a beef with spoons and forks. Fck a salad huh 😂
Rudy Gobert is about to be four time defensive player of the year while Shaq had none , yes that good and his team Minnesota is ranked number one in defense
3:09 😂💀
That's why they said no to AMP
Most of your takes be on point but this I have to disagree. Rudy is not a 200 million dollar center. We look at the career.
What’s funny is that Joker would drop 40 on Shaq. 😂😂😂
I love Shaq most of the time but he's bitter.Appreciate that D Wade and the late Kobe got you chips.By the way,Sir Charles and tne Jet could both play in today's game.Shaq couldn't.
Shaq won those rings.
He clearly feels like the center play isn’t up to par as it used to be and feels like the pay doesn’t reflect the numbers. I feel like every generation of athletes has a little bit of that.
Kobe was was what!? 3:09
More basketball knowledge unpacked in this video than anything Shaq has spewed. Obviously he has in-game experience but that has not translated into the booth at all. I'd rather see you in the booth with Ernie, Kenny, and Chuck.
Nah I’m agreeing with Shaq here 250 mil is entirely too for what Rudy Gobert provides!
All that money for Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah, and Clint Capela type production ⁉️
For those of you that didn't grow up with Shaq, he's always been like this. He thinks a center making more money than him or getting any sort of attention is somehow a critism against him. He hated on Dwight Howard, hated on Javale McGee, hates on Rudy. The only center he didn't hate on was Embiid. For a while he hated on Jokic, calling him a soft euro. Honestly, Shaq would get torched in todays game. He would get 6 offensive fouls before half-time and if he didn't he definitely wouldn't be able to guard the best players in todays league on the perimeter like Gobert or Wemby. Shaq came into the league at the perfect time, class of 92'. Before the league realized that skill at basketball was actually important.
imo it's because he's a purely offensive player. Shaq isn't known for all-time defense I think.
Shaq would've been able to guard Jok😂🤣😂Shaq delusional
Rudy has something to prove. I agree with Shaq. Win a chip 🍟
Prime shaq would never be able to hold jokic to 15 lmao he just be saying whatever 😂
Shaq has been like this for SOOOOOOOO long. He’s one of the best guys 9/10 times but then he turns into a complete egomaniac about centers. Obviously he has the right to feel some type of way as a generational center but he doesn’t know what he’s saying and he’s JUST hating.
A prime Shaq was like the black basketball Brock Lesnar he'll enjoy to destroy any opponent that's in his path