Wirtual Plays The Random Generated Track Cup $250
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2023
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Date of Stream 23rd April.
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I love wirtuals stance on technology "I don't understand how it works and why it does dumb things and that makes me mad" but also "I don't want to understand how it works, don't tell me how it works, just let me be angry and wrong". You've gotta respect the self-awareness
Lmao true
Going into IT right now, I feel this so hard, because it's how I used to be, vs how I have to learn to be now
some of it is definitely that he needs to focus on the game and can't be distracted reading chat messages about how drivers work
he right tho
"I also don't want to update anything or reboot" and then wonders when everything stutters. Granted, I don't reboot my server too many times a year, but that's Linux and I don't run all kinds of random crap like games on it. Windows box gets rebooted *at least* when I decide to update GPU drivers, which seems to be about every two months, typically more often, and computers are something I proverbially live and breathe.
Part 2 of the RTG Cup will be released within 24 hours hope you guys enjoy!
Just wanna say, you've been killing it lately with the uploads! Cheers!
I was like where's the rest😂
Why's are the videos separate?
Should have just froze Wirtual mid-sentence at the end for a few seconds then hard cut the video like it restarted his PC.. lol
60 minutes are left tik tock bothertrucker
On driver updates: you are almost right, but there are still good reasons to update your drivers
The two reasons to update your drivers:
reason 1(the good reason): Drivers have to deal with hardware, and hardware is terrible to deal with. Thus, people will periodically find bugs or clever ways to use the hardware better. This is especially true for new hardware
reason 2(the tech support reason): Updating drivers is very simple, at its most intensive it just requires a restart. And most of the time the risks are very low. So it makes since why it is so often a recommended step, because if it fixes the problem you don't have to do something more complicated.
That being said, if your hardware has been out for a while(like a year), a lot of the growing pains for the driver will have passed. This means that updating your driver probably has very little upside most of the time, unless you have a specific reason to think you need to update. Here are the specific reasons: (1) you are experiencing weird graphical artifacts, especially across multiple applications, (2) performance is significantly impacted in ways not otherwise explicable, or (3) the update fixes a bug or makes a performance improvement. To be clear, you should still update your drivers periodically(at least once every few months) to ensure bugs get patched, and you should update your drivers more frequently if your hardware is newer(new hardware has more problems).
A lot of the same logic applies to software updates
Its a two way street, the game devs have to take advantage of the driver update. A driver update will do nothing for the frames if Trackmania hasn't put out an update to go with it.
Most driver updates are just optimizations for new games coming out anyways, I only notice driver problems on new games.
I feel there needs to be a thing where Wirtual tries Rocket League and a Rocket League player tries trackmania. A video where they both introduce each other to the game and coach each other and you get to see their progress at the end of it. For instance, Wirtual and Lethamyr coach each other in their specialized games or something.
that exist already
Wirtual used to play rocket league like back in 2016 or something. He showed a crazy aerial, well crazy for the time). He looked kinda cracked for 2016
Rocket league lmao. Let's try Minecraft also then
Dude he's already played Rocket League
@@Dizastermaster. one time too many
im so proud of wirtual for restarting his pc before stream, congrats man, how does it feel
Now if only he'd remembered to install updates before restarting it would have been a truly miraculous event
@@T0NI_ But then he wouldn't have the convenient excuse of lag if he does shit.
"Once you start giving ME money, things start going YOUR way." needs to be the new subscription notification lol
The video : You have 15min to make a time on 5 maps.
Wirtual : *Spend 15min on the first map*
Also Wirtual : Why am I only 56th ?
I knew someone would say this
@@headedbranch5733 This was a predictable outcome
Lmaooo
Genuinely pronounced Joran Witte in the most Scandinavian way possible.
I love it when he pronounces Dutch names in his Norwegian accent, it just sounds so wrong
Here's an analogy to explain why drivers stop working after a time:
Imagine you're a cook in a restaurant, and your job is to prepare dishes according to specific recipes. These recipes are like the drivers in a computer; they tell you (the cook) how to use the ingredients (the hardware) to make a meal (the software's functionality). Now, say the restaurant changes its menu and adds new dishes. These new dishes require different cooking methods or ingredients that aren't in the old recipes. So, you need new recipes (new drivers) to handle these changes.
Likewise, when a computer's operating system or software gets an upgrade or a new version, sometimes it includes new features, or ways of doing things, that the old drivers don't know about or can't handle. When this happens, you need to update the drivers so they can work with the new changes and keep your system running smoothly.
The algorithm has served me this video 4x in the last 10 vids. It likes you, wirt
The randomized points method in round two here feels almost like the opposite of Cup of the Day: Where the latter punishes failure and risky strats, this kind of score system instead seems to reward doing consistently well: As long as a playstyle finishes high enough most of the time, it can survive absolutely eating dirt a few times here and there.
The point ladder is randomise at first, and ordered at second.
So in a round it could be [100,99,99,98,95,…]
And on another it would be [99,87,84,80,69,…]
It’s RGN but fair RNG
Wirtual, the pyramids weren't built in a day, and video card drivers are like the internal ramp. as the pyramid grows taller, you have to update your ramp.
What's the pyramid though? The game isn't getting bigger
Figuring out maps myself... man can I relate. I hate when people on servers are like "just watch the gps"
12:42 oh no.. okay, yeah
he became my inner demons in under 5 seconds
I’m so confused- the qualifier was supposed to be 3 minutes for 5 maps but it was just one map for 15 minutes?
I think it was 15min to make a time on 5 maps. Wirtual ranked 6th on the 1st map and didn't play the others maps, which somehow led him to get the 56th place total. But I am not certain.
Main thing I love about TM Turbo is the random map gen, would love to see it in TM20.
Wirtual never understanding drivers is the most infuriating thing lmao. Just update your shizz damn
Thanks. I had to pause there and bite into something.
But to be fair to Wirt, I've gone a whole year without updating my drivers and everything was still playing perfectly fine. I really only updated it when a specific game got released and I updated it just to be safe and it literally takes no time. I only never did it because I played the same games and nothing broke lol
@@CapnFlappyJaw42 The drivers on my Windows system are 3 years old as of now. Updating them decreases performance and stability, as well as causing frequent BSoDs, requiring me to rollback from a backup. As long as they work it's good enough I guess.
Wirtual is on the money here though, he’s playing the same game, same drivers, if there’s suddenly lag, it’s caused by something else like the map or an openplanet plugin.
Updating drivers is good practice, and it can solve issues especially with new games, but it’s not the magic spell for performance some gamers think it is.
wirtual talking about drivers sounds like if i tried to talk about trackmania
updated my graphics driver because of this video. Cheers dude.
18:15 - sounds like every mafia guy ever talking to a business owner about buying protection
I’ve never played this game and I’m addicted 🤣
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Hello my friend
peepohey
Thank you
Do you know how many layers are you playing on? It's not just about drivers. There are ton of stuff that runs in your background. Even small update to the game can cause issues, then there's stuff like windows which holds big responsibility for performance aswell. Stuff like CNET, directx or even anti-virus can sometimes interfere sometimes with your performance. Since these things are constantly updated there's always possibility something will interfere with something else. It's not like you have Gpu that only calculates your game.
Is ther a hyper speed sphere track with random checkpoints?
I've been hearing this song 9:54 (LVTHER - Some Kind Of Magic (feat. MYZICA) in Wirtual Vods and god this song slaps!
when it comes to drivers, I feel like the importance is often overstated. Having old drivers won't inherently make things worse, so long as those drivers are *stable*. When the manufacturer posts new driver updates, it's usually micro-optimizations and bug/compatibility fixes, which can each give a performance boost. In egregious cases, an old driver might have a bug that causes significant slowdown, or forces the engine developers to implement a less efficient workaround temporarily, but then when the issue is resolved with a driver update and they remove the fix, your game suddenly slows down for seemingly no reason after a minor update. It's highly uncommon for something like this to happen though, but it's worth considering. If you're having GPU related issues, drivers are almost always a good first step for debugging possible issues
In this particular case, I highly doubt it was a driver issue, as others also reported the issue, and it's a known problem with Trackmania's netcode. Old drivers might be losing you 1 or 2 fps, but 80+ is almost certainly the fault of the game, unless your drivers were shipped with a major bug
The only case where I would really consider it to be a driver issue is if this was an absolutely brand new card bought within the first 2 weeks to 2 months of launch, because the initial drivers often need some work to iron out
Nice uploads
Can someone please explain to me what the quack a vod is?!!??!?!??
I always miss is streams >.
What's the song that plays at 45:58?
A surprising number of times windows updates can interfere with existing drivers or other software, and require updates to fix. Otherwise, "update your drivers" is also good advice to start with since sometimes the bug you're seeing may have been what was fixed by the newest version. In that case it's not that the new version broke the old one of course.
Either the chance of running into the bug was always there, or was introduced (or made worse) by something that updates (a different driver's update, like for your motherboard//chipset for example, or from a windows update, or from software updates).
Of those, usually windows updates are the problem.
Importantly though, more often than not, the new version is just fixing bugs that have been around and weren't recently introduced, and people telling you to update are doing so because it's much easier than trying to figure out whether or not niche issues are actually related to the myriad of minor bug fixes that come with new driver versions already.
Good crisp audio
dis fun to watch
bro said sal mon
22:36 maybe not turning off your pc for 2 months impacts it??? Just guessing😂 you should probably reset it more often
hell nah, no shutdown gang
I can't even leave my PC on for 2 nights in a row lol
Back in the day I left my PC on for 5 weeks straight and that killed my HDD and everything went with it (was like 2011).
I doubt my current PC would break so easily but I'd rather not take the chance on that one.
PCs fail most likely when started.
Hardware reason: every component heats up quickly, often before cooling takes place. You also have energy spikes that can break electrical components. Same applies in reverse when cooling down. Metal expands when heated up, so there's constant stress when your computer is often restarted.
Software reason: when your computer is shut down, changed settings are saved to the internal system/registry. That also includes corrupted data and broken files.
When you now start your computer, it loads up a bunch of files including the maybe corrupted ones. Your system might be reliable but the more you change about it, the more errors it produces. As long as it runs, nothing is changed. But loading up your system will cause problems.
Think of it like a mobile phone: how often do you restart it? And if you do, how often is it due to an empty battery or system fault?
You don't need to restart an electronic device and since the temperature is relatively constant it even prolongs the longevity of your computer.
@@Hoch134 ok einstein🤣 but your pc wont get messed up unless you your self changed some mad settings
@@Hoch134 yeah, yeah, nah, nah.
With modern power saving states, the PC will shutdown most of components when going to sleep. Like all of your devices besides CPU, RAM will be powered down, cold and not getting any current.
The programs start up properly because they were closed down properly, compared to just resuming from suspension they were pushed into unknowingly.
I like only restart my phone because something fucks up and reboot is the quickest fix for it.
he can be so ignorant at times lmao, he's probably still rocking the drivers windows installed for him on 1st run XD
so they only qualified w 1 map?
Whats the name of the song by 46:10 ?
Updating drivers has 2 purposes: filling newly found security holes and making the card work better with some new games. The former is why you should update from time to time. The latter makes it easy to ignore the whole thing for awhile and just wait like a year between updates. No reason to get the latest drivers, if you are just playing the same game all the time.
What is the song at 19:05?
For someone who knows so much about the silly car game he knows nothing about computers lmao
Devs can get drivers early, and hotpatch game without an update
i think wirtual should be hired by nvidia as a driver developer, and then make videos about how he makes the best driver of all time forever
radio isotope thermoelectric generator cup, I wish I could play that
i don't get it why there is this random points system, what's the purpose?
If this was built in turbo why is there ice?
Where do i get this skin?
I know he's just malding, but if he actually seen how drivers work, he would understand why they need updated/can fuck everything up lol
whats that song called: are you with me or against me i can't tell just take me. starts at 45:50
was looking for that one for ages and i found it: Are you with me, by One more day
@@shift2964 thank you so much :)
@@shift2964 You Hero
5:45 skip to first map and brief explanation
anyone know the song thats playing at 11:00?
LVTHER - Some Kind Of Magic (feat. MYZICA)
is there a part 2 to this?
There is already a part 1 on the channel this is part 2 and there will be a final part on the channel very soon.
@@WirtualVODs Err, no, this is the part 1 video. But yes, there is a part 2 already up
Wirtual's outlook on updates hurts my tech literate and micro electronics repair brain... AMD won't fix the issues. You'll have the same issues because you'll treat it the same way
As an electronic engineer and low level software/ firmware developer, Wirtual is right. This should not be a problem. For every piece of computer hardware other than GPUs, one driver developed once for x64 will work just fine and carry on working just fine. And honestly even then, driver updates only tend to optimise / fix new games
@@henryokeeffe5835 From real world use though, I nearly always see improvements of one kind or another overall in my computer when I let the hardware updates go through.
Wirtual isn't right, and you aren't right. Idc what you do lol real world? not how it works. Update your stuff. They put out updates for a reason. Hell, AMD put out an update for GPU's that made nearly all of them 15% better in every single game
@@henryokeeffe5835 In real life drivers especially for new products are full of bugs which are then found and patched in future versions.
@@TechXTech91 He knows he needs to update his drivers, I know I need to update my drivers (at least for my graphics card). My point, and I think Wirtual's point is that we _shouldn't need_ to, especially if very little else changes about how we are using our computer
@@henryokeeffe5835 definitely *need to*
31:45 what's the name of the song?
yeah need to know too 😩
@@charamza15 You reminded me that I was looking for this song and I finally found it. It is Patricia Taxxon - wavetable. One of the song from summoning salt
It is Title track. I recommended typing "Wavetable by Patricia taxxon but it's only the best part"
@@szymalla thank you!
I finally understand, Wirtual is for when his w's turn into l's cuz wirtual starts with a w and ends with an l
Where's the rest, seems like it stops halfway through the event?
Part 2 will be up on the channel within 24 hours
@@WirtualVODs Great, thanks!
My most favorite comment in chat: untransitional tech
calling 60fps “lag” is pretty funny
I update drivers pretty much once every 2 months or so. I'm skipping a lot of those, I'm on a 3090 and I'm at a minimum of 144 fps all the time
got 14 SETS of ads on this video.
you know what, i'm with him. screw drivers!
AI is French confirmed.
Wirtual's opinion on PC care and driver updates is screaming conspiracy theorist for me
Ah yes, AMD drivers... My friends whom take part in said drivers are sometimes just looking at black screens because they crash for no reason.
starts at 6:10
Why is it not RGT?
Nice!
I think drivers have to change so often because of optimization by the OS. The drivers have to react to (I believe) shifts in how CPU registers are allowed to work which functionally changes the way drivers have to optimize
50:45 if you are mad about nvidia drivers, I really think you should not touch AMD and even less Intel...
So just stop gaming?
@@KYRM09 na, but even if it sucks, if stability is your concern Nvidia is still the top dog
Nya
You update drivers for the same reason we aren't using the IBM computer from the 80s, tech updates and upgrades at incredible paces.
Fun story, almost every bank still uses IBM System/Z mainframes, which are binary backwards compatible with System360 mainframes from the 60s. I worked on a COBOL compiler for them about 10 years ago. But yes, updating drivers is important.
He's using the same hardware with the same game, with a somewhat recent driver, it's not gonna change much. Driver updates are important for new games and new hardware, and occasionally fix bugs, but it's not gonna suddenly double his FPS in Trackmania.
@@LightTheMars You'd be suprised then what a simple driver update can do for a game that it isn't meant for.
I've had it before where I played a game at a steady 60 (or higher) then it began to lag, updated the driver and fixed. No idea why no idea how and I don't really care bottom line is it works again.
@@user-bt8xr5si9y Wirtual honestly needs to stop talking about driver updates or really anything tech wise, he has no idea what hes talking about. I honestly hope its all just a bit to be funny.
@@kingderpington6082 I think he's genuinly clueless but the worst part is probably how he has the cool opportunity to get instant help by thousands of people in his stream chat and yet decides to ignore all of it because update=bad
I mean I like watching him but hearing shit like "why can't they make one driver that just works" is just infuriating it's literally one of the worst statements ever.
It's hilarious to me that Wirtual ended up being basically right about the drivers, and about AMD's driver quality completely by accident, and chat is spamming "as a computer scientist" without knowing how gpu performance actually works, and what is causing problems with his FPS. I can guarantee updating his drivers wouldn't have improved performance on those maps. It was almost certainly either to do with the large number of players in the lobby bottlenecking cpu/network, or the maps being poorly optimized or baked because of how they were imported. People will watch a Linus Tech Tips video in 2018, then carry dogmatic beliefs about how computers work from it for the next 5 years lmao. Enjoyed the video regardless though!
GG
Goodnight
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Hey Wirt. According to your "why should I turn off my PC". Every capacitor on ur motherboard have estimated hours of work time that they can work without losing it's integrity. Usually it's around 2000h. When the capacitor is worn out, your PC still might work, but the power supplying to GPU, CPU and other critical components might not be stable which will cause PC to be laggy af. The lags you experience on maps are not maps/game issue. So if you don't use it, turn off your PC.
Modern caps have far more than 2000h in them
@@0106johnny for industrial use, not for some random dudes PC :D
@@19GibsoN62 No, even the caps on consumer hardware have far more than 2000h lifespan
I've never understood how a game like this can suffer so badly from framerate. Each map is an isolated chunk, and controls are arrow keys... Wirtual playing on a PC pretty much the best money can buy yet still struggles with lag. Fix your damn game and I might buy it lol
The game is free. What makes it stutter is the game loads all other cars even when you dont have ghosts on
How does the controls being arrows keys have anything to do with your framerate
The input controls have no impact on the framerate at all.
Spawning a lot of objects consecutively will take time.
Unoptimized graphics settings could be a factor. Some types of graphics settings have a bigger performance hit compared to the visual change
Whatever the root causes are, I can guarantee you that the input controls have no bearings on the performance
"Controls are arrow keys" what? What controls would make a game lag?
Wirtual doesnt have that good of a pc aswell
Wirtual needs to get a faster rig, locked 120+ ftw
First!
average world cup map
its actually crazy how bad this game runs on your pc
He is streaming the game from the same pc, its taking double duty.
@@chronovore7234 streaming doesn't use much, I get 200fps on this game and streaming would only take away around 30 fps, wirtual has a 3070 which is around the same as my 6700 xt
250$ is not 250€.
Thinking fr at 60 is ass pisses me off. The human eye only perseves 30 to 60 fps
You haven't played at 120+ fps then, you definitely notice a difference. There is also input lag to consider, most games only update inputs with frames. Its a much smoother experience. Frame timing also plays a huge role.
Also on the topic on AMD / Nvidia, AMD is MUCH better than Nvidia when it to price/quality, not everyone can afford a 1k-2k graphic card from Nvidia for 10-20 fps upgrade when AMD is like half the price.
43:11 (Bottom of Chat)
@macaroniwiner twich?
43:25 (Bottom of Chat)
@Kaesebrotsc2 ich auch
44:21 (Bottom of Chat)
@joker100608 lol