This game manages to displease both SR 1&2 players and SR 3&4 players simultaniously which is genuinely amazing they got both saints row generations to band together to shit on this game.
In an alternate world this was a marketing stunt where the old crew just guns down the hippie saints row in the beginning of the game. Would have been the greatest come back. Anyway hope the franchise takes a rest after this.
It's like what happened with star wars The OT fans used to hate the PT Fans But when the ST came out they banded together to s*** on that corporate garbage
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I don't like it when people say the gameplay feels dated. It's not dated, if it was dated it would be fun. The gameplay is trash, it tries to reinvent the wheel at every corner and fails miserably, if they had copy-pasted the combat from SR4 or even SR3 then it would be a lot more bearable to play, if nothing else.
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Tbh I thought the world wasn’t that empty. There’s unique shops you can enter for your clothes. There’s random shit going on like people with their car broken down on the side of the road. Cops helping them out. People performing music and others dancing to it. I’ve only played a few hours so far. I had to see if it’s really as bad as everyone says. There’s things that I like. Customization, rag doll effects, art direction, working vehicle chases unlike cyberpunk. Haven’t really experienced bugs besides some clipping. I’ll probably keep playing it just to mess around in the open world. Main missions have been sucking tho which seems like all that Charlie played.
@@nousername2942 I tried it once, but they sort of do...? The wanted system in this game though is not good, they took Just cause good wanted system and shit on it so most of the time whoever shoots the guy calling reinforcements, wins.
@@nhanon67as I don't know if later on there will be rival factions fighting each other, but just on the main story missions there is. I think it was mission 5 or 6 I was playing when the Idols crew come and attack the Panteras crew who are in the middle of attacking me. So yeah, the rival factions do actually fight each other... But so far, I only saw it on that 1 mission. Then I got bored and turned the game off, regretting that I wasted my money buying this game pre-order.
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The way Charlie is describing the humor and silliness being bogged down is like the scene in step brothers where Seth Rogan thinks the tuxedos are funny until John c Riley farts and has to say “on second thought the tuxedos seem kinda fucked up.”
I’m just sick of not listening too reviewers when they say don’t waste your money, i want a refund so bad and I have no one too blame but myself for not listening too anyone. I’ve played every single saints row at launch so I was biased and love saints row but I’m not exaggerating when I say this, but this is easily in the top ten worst game of the past five years.
Yeah, I'm the same. Tbh, I wasn't going to get it, but the lackluster games selection on the PS5 right now is abysmal so I caved. Going forward from now, I'm listening to reviewers on here, not IGN or those shills that are paid to make a product look good. Take it as a lesson going forward, that's what I'm doing 👍
@@dontknowme1792 I did and I hated it, but me being optimistic even after all the reviews shitting on this game mix with the lack luster of games rn and plus I just got paid lol, I got weak and desperate. So yeah no one else to blame, seriously don’t even play this game even as a joke.
@@wizzykhalifa3552 fair enough. I did the same with watchdogs legion. I'd just gotten paid and I liked the old games so I disregarded the reviews. That was the last time I would go against my gut feeling.
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As someone who’s unfortunately played this game. Charlie isn’t exaggerating at all, he’s 100% correct on everything he’s said. It’s sad & insane that a game from 2006 (original saints row) has better gameplay, shooting mechanics, & a more alive open world than a next gen game from 2022. Makes saints row 4 look like a master piece
Developers make games like this because they know it will still make a profit and please their bosses. People buying garbage like this is why the quality of video games has dwindled so far in the last few years. You can put zero effort into a project and make a boatload of money or you can put passion/hard work into a protect and make just as much. The choice is easy.
In 2006-2008 little did we know we were entering the golden age of gaming. Now we’re incredibly lucky to get one high quality or remotely fun game release per year. So damn depressing, gaming really fucking sucks ass now.
It's like AA They barely made money on Agents of Mayhem so I don't know what people thought this was gonna be These people don't produce AAA and never had, it just used to be easier to make games
saints row 2 was such a great mix of serious and silly. I've always wanted them to progress from that game, but they just didn't. shame. they were a great gta competitor during the gta 3 and 4 times but they don't even come close now. I can't help but laugh at epic for paying them to make it an epic exclusive and for them to take the deal just to see it flop
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I love how Volition literally rebooted the series and still managed to fumble a clean slate, completely ignoring what made them have to reboot Saints Row in the first place.
was saints row ever good, i always remember going into the character creation, making a freak, and then getting bored really quickly cringing at the dialog, and that was back in the demo so i wasn't even paying for it,
Same mentality that we allowed before... "Just get it through the door, we fix it later"....we older gen players know precisely where it all went wrong.
one f-word: franchising. companies think a name of a product will somehow be engouh to make them money. happened with star wars, justice league and gears of war. and again all the care about is money, not product
There is a fine line between quirky fun and cringe. The OG Saint's Row worked because the main cast were a group of good friends but didn't hide that they are ABSOLUTE PSYCHOPATHS. The villains were also ABSOLUTE PSYCHOPATHS but they had friends and family. There is tragedy and sadness in Saint's Row, but they were the result of consequences. As a result, the funny quirkiness worked in balance with how dark the games can get. In other words, the main cast were capital G Gangsters and lived a life of crime. Can you say the same for this cast? Where they literally sip wine, talk about capitalism and student loans? Saint's Row 2 had missions where you'd literally throw shit everywhere, and that game had a more nuanced and in-depth criticism of Capitalism than this game.
Exactly, people that say "Saints row never had a story" are full of shit, 1 and 2 have pretty basic but pretty grounded stories with enough dark humor and actual dark and depressing tones all wrapped with actual smart criticism towards capitalism and gang culture.
not only that but the cast werent one note, Gat, was a crazy rambo killer, but he knew when to push and when not to, he also spoke with his gf giving him a reasonable loving person side, Gat was the guy who was crazy to storm the battlefront with a supersoaker, but smart enough to take cover and plan the attack first. the reason why gat is loved is cause hes crazy and smart giving reason why he can surivive such a world for so long, the key reason for him being loved is that he had a no f's given attitude, one of his best scenes is him on trial and he just calmly tells the judge to F off. you cant say you didnt like him cause he was competant
@@jorgeloredo100 SR1, tackles crime, how a normal citizen gets affected by crime, joins a gang and goes from passive to actively taking down gangs, to bring peace into the streets, SR2 story is that cops/corpos, were using the saints to get rid of the gangs to allow themselves to control of the citizens, that the new gangs are used by corpos and are immune from the laws due to cops making them the neccessary evil. where SR1 was saying how crime can affect society and ppl will join gangs to bring peace or revenge, SR2 was about how higher powers politics and business can control streets indirectly. the story was great, its in 3 that it turns out the world is full of criminal empires like in 2, and saints go against one, so it just seemed like cash grab and not really pushing the story just trying to make a game and sell, 4 just went wacky af and while gameplay mechanics is the most fun its also the lowest note in story for the SR
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Right? I was expecting it to be absolute garbage, but I was still surprised to see that it exceeded my expectations in being even more garbage to what I expected. Absolutely crazy how this franchise has killed itself like this.
Anyone who wants a kinder, gentler SR is not a SR fan. And why are we making games for people who are not fans while knowing full well we're alienating the fanbase that allowed us to make 4 games in the series over the span of one console cycle?
Saints Row 2 remains King. Buying apartments, properties, garages, hilarious characters yet with a serious undertone, a good story, fun combat. No more of this shit fr
I’ve been hearing that Volition was giving fans the middle finger when they brought up their speculations of the game like a year ago, and now look at where they’re at. We can’t keep letting these gaming studios and companies get away with having these untouchable attitudes AND underperform.
Nah you should make fun of the shit people were complaining about. Not that Volition did, even, but still. The complaints were not about the actual game.
@@evd549 I don't. If idiots are going to pre-order knowing the game will suck then it's their own fault. People keep pumping money into shit games, year after year, and wonder why they keep getting ripped off.
Not only that, but you could buy several random old games for the price of one modern random game, and even more if you wait for sales, im done with modern gaming, im playing my backlog and indies while the industry crashes for good
It's not unreal, it just means there's more games today, and with a similar chance of a "good game" happening, more games means you can find more you don't like than you did years ago. You were also more likely to know the fewer games that came out at the times, so they didn't feel "random".
@@juicejooos It takes forever to make games now. Games were being pumped out constantly back then by companies people had never heard of before, it wasn’t “random”, it was random. The odds are skewed entirely in favor of games today. Yet… they still suck.
I love living in an age where everything I used to love is dug up out of a grave and forced to exist for the sake of corporate greed and lack of original thought in the larger industry
Watching him stream it was almost painful. He gave it a shot at first, but when it became obvious how bad it was, he just continued to dog it the entire time.
I really like how the recommended GPU for this game is the 3080Ti, according to steam. And it looks only as good as Overwatch. It really tells you something about the studio's priorities.
I at least thought the game was gonna play a bit differently, since the visuals in the trailer were a departure from the style of the past games. Lo and behold when I see gameplay that's not only running on the same engine, but with literally cut and pasted animations from the older games too. Why even reboot the series if you're just gonna do the same thing, but worse?
I dunno, Volition's got form. Saints Row 1 launched broken, Agents of Mayhem had boring, boring mission design and they've never been able to make good DLC.
There are plenty of people who would make this trash because they are massively untalented hacks given their position because of nepotism or some idiotic rhetoric rather than skill
Genuinely amazing how they discarded their fans that stuck with the game through the beginning and even when it made a drastic change with SR3 and SR4 for a bunch of people who don't even care about their game in the firstplace. Bravo.
Yeah, they told us we weren’t wanted anymore. People like me have been there literally since launch day of the very first game. They felt if they went with the woke Twitter crowd instead of longtime and loyal customers, they would hit a home run. They get what they deserve and I won’t be sad if they get shut down (like they almost did with that piece of crap, Agents of Mayhem).
@@corvega_joe like what about the woke Twitter crowd bullshit? Just curious cause I haven't played it really so I was wondering what stuff you're talking about? Also isn't this a remake? So wouldn't this be from the original game years ago? Again just curious cause I haven't played this so was just wondering for some examples is all. Thanks for letting me know if you can! :)
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@@commoncreative Oh yeah i'm not gonna waste my time with this, since most modern games are like 40gb a piece, even still I pirate all my shit. If the game is worth buying; if I feel like the devs give even half a shit, then i'll buy it. Other than that...
This was Volition's chance to shine. The perfect time for them to give us a new urban open world. GTA 6 is still far off. Many people (including me) are worried about its direction. This reboot could've sealed the deal for SR to get back into the fight and be a strong rival against GTA. If they had hit this out of the park, this franchise would've gone strong even into the future. Instead we got this. And as a big fan of SR to the point of jokingly saying I'm "representing" with a friend whenever we wear anything purple in other games or even in real life, I am absolutely disappointed. I don't see the Saints coming back from this one. Maybe as a mobile game or a skin in Fortnite, who tf knows.
I despise this game with an unbelievable passion, they could’ve made a game that re-defined a genre that has grown stagnant and instead ruined literally everything from the original series instead of even trying to make improvements. This series is unfortunately dead in the mud and it’s sad that it’s the truth. If they just took a look at other series such as the Yakuza series to learn how to balance seriousness with craziness alongside taking the core gameplay of older SR games and expanding upon that alone and we would’ve had an amazing reboot. Alas, this isn’t the case and never will be. SR4 was the last decent SR with the last great being SR3. Such a waste of a great series.
this broke my heart. I also say i'm reppping when I wear purple. SR is why it's my favourite colour. I grew up with fun whacky gmeplay where my OC makes goofy one liners and roasts the shit outta people. I miss SR so much. I hate knowing this is the end of the only true GTA competition.
I remember playing Saints Row 2 and having an absolute blast back in the day. Taking out rival gangs, pumping reggae in the car, exploring Stilwater to the fullest extent; so many good times. So seeing the franchise be reduced to this garbage is just absolutely heartbreaking.
Eh I mean, depends on which part of the fanbase you're talking about. The people saying it doesn't look particularly good? Sure. The people bitching about it being woke? Fuck outta here
I had fun playing the previous Saint's Row games and really wanted this new one to be good, but my hope in that was crushed as soon as the first trailer was shown. And the hope just get kept getting dimmer and dimmer with each new trailer. I want there to be more Saint's Row in the future, but it's looking like putting this series to rest is the only right answer at this time.
I swear I was hoping really hard too It’s like they ripped out every recognizable and fun aspect of the old games to the point where this isn’t even a part of the same series anymore
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I really hate that another game franchise that I loved is ruined. There is no actual love put into the game, which sucks because I loved SR for it's funny/wacky or had humor that was outlandish.
Personally, I think that Saints Row 3 def wasn't as bad as people say it was. Gameplay was enjoyable and dialogue was fun. But to each their own I guess.
A 25% on the Moist Meter is kinder than this deserves. Maybe I'm extra jaded because Saints Row was my favorite franchise but I look at this and cant imagine it even being worth a fraction of that. Especially for $60. It couldve been $20 and the game wouldve still been trash, but for $60 this is inexcusably bad.
@@arcanefire7511 I never said pricing is representative of quality, what I said is I'll be a lot more forgiving of a game that is $20 than a game that is $60+.
When I heard the rumors about the remake being "safer" than the previous games I was taking it with a grain of salt, but wow they really bit into the giant corporate cookie with this one. It's the Saints Row, but the bare minimum and without any of the soul or memorable characters.
Whenever a game tries "playing safe", cancel your preorder immediately. That means the new game will be deprived of features that made the past games good/great.
@@anakinlowground5515 really depends. There's a few developers I'd preorder from. Because I trust in them delivering a quality experience. But from the moment the trailer dropped I was skeptical. I might get it, when it drops on sale for 10 bucks or less. Otherwise I'll probably just replay 2 or 3.
They got Saints Row, one of the wildest stories in any series, with insane over the top characters and lowbrow over the top comedy, and gave them to a team of hipster college students. It's all that needs to be said. I loved Saints Row 3, it was a very fun sandbox game to play for a while between games without having to spend a lot of time thinking, and, the best I can hope for this game, is that maybe, one day, Saints Row will go back to that formula, be good, and make fun of this piece of digital trash.
What they don't get is that the series was founded on a fundamental. Telling a gripping story with cinema-worthy writing and directing, while giving the players the offerings and freedom to do more absurd things outside of the storytelling. Things started to take a turn when they decided that blending some of the absurdity to buff-up story plots and sequences was the way to evolve the series. 3 still told a decent story, but was executed in bombastic ways that felt like they belonged outside of it. 4 went south as a Saints Row. There was some series closure in the (sprinkled) main story missions, but the overall plot just murders the fundamental storytelling. Now we have... what can only be described as something Shaundi Pierce and Gat would be watching on TV until Gat had enough and shot the TV.
Its crazy how in like '06 we were entering the golden age of gaming and we didn't even know or appreciate it until it was gone. I remember loading up SR3 and 4 for the first time and being blown away by how much stupid fun playing it was. It's a shame that they couldn't pull that off here.
There was never a "golden age" of gaming. That is just pure nostalgia speaking. Bad video games have always existed but oh no, a bad new release and all of a sudden it's the "end of gaming". Also, you really choose SR3 and 4 as examples? You realize those games are divisive in the SR community, right? Many OG fans hate those games.
@@theobell2002 The golden age of gaming doesn’t just refer to a bunch of good games that were released it also refers to a time where there were almost no microtransactions, the greed wasn’t as overflowing people would give EA shit for things that every company does now, the games were finished products, and they didn’t use live service as an excuse to release the most barebones basic ass game that they can deliver. I could go on and on about the differences frfr
Its actually impressive how they managed to both piss off fans of the OG Saints Rows, aswell as fans of the newer ones 💀 That's gotta count for something, right?
Neither of those markets exist in their eyes. The majority of the market are braindead consumers that will buy anything new, and small children. Look at the gaming industry with this perspective and it all makes perfect sense why every big-budget product from this industry is dogshit.
I don't understand why they couldn't just bounce off of SR2 like don't get me wrong I enjoyed 3 but SR2 is one of my favorite games of all time from the seriousness of the missions (Aisha's death mission) to fuckin around for hours with insurance fraud. But the game had personality from the cribs and personalization to the fighting styles (why don't more games let you choose how you fight anymore) and the villains of the game and even one of side characters were extremely fleshed out and perfectly executed. Looking at you Carlos and maero. Jump almost 15 years or whatever it is and we now have this super sized dog shit. Like it's so stupid and highly disrespectful for who made your games and and company boom in the first place
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I agree, sr2 is literally my favorite saints row game and i honestly love it more than the third and 4th one, when the third one came out i found it boring compared to the second honestly 😭
SR3 was funny as shit. I had a blast playing it with my buddy. The 4th one was really repetitive though and got old fast. The gat out of hell dlc was better than the main game IMO
@@rickybobby3960 ikr smh we won’t have a open world game based in the city with country side in a long time smh they were a different feel nowadays they’re no where in sight smh
I swear saints Row should've taken place after 4 where the saints go back in time to somewhere between 2 and 3 and then create a new timeline as a soft reboot. They could've been so self aware and made so many jokes about it They could've created a narrative where the saints are causing chaos and having fun throughout time then the boss realizing the saints were too over the top and have gone astray from thier origins and used the time machine to create a new alternative time line as a soft reboot and return back to a style closer to 2 or at least one that wasn't as over the top as 3.
@@OtakuWrath yeah like I could already imagine a montage st the beginning of them joy riding across time, and the boss deciding they're gone too far from thier origins and the saints taking out the threats that would appear later in 3 and 4. Then finally the game taking place between 2 and 3 where the boss is the only one who remembers or know the events of 3 and 4. They could've made it self aware as hell while also going back to a place where they can tone down the craziness that came with 3 and 4
@@NidokingOtsutsuki I only played 3 and 4 and I've heard people saying they liked 2 since later games were too over the top. I would've loved to experience what everyone was talking about. And I felt like the time machine at the end of 4 was the perfect way to soft reboot the series. They could've done a montage that started off over the top but then also be self aware of how over the top they have become and the boss wanting to return to how the saints were before, and boom time machine for soft reboot
The developers literally had step by step instructions on how to make a new saints row game from over a decade of feedback from the fans, and they somehow made the worst. Is it narcissism on the part of the developers thinking the fans are stupid and don't know what they're talking about, or just incompetence, or malice?
my guess is the director didnt gaf and wanted to make the game similar to the older ones for the same vibe.. but for some reason without improving on it. the beginning of the game was bad in a fun way in the beginning, but then you kinda realize that this game is actually dogshit 😂😂
I mean, in all fairness as a developer you don't want to just do everything your players tell you to do. But from what little I read, the developers seemed totally full of themselves and completely delusional. Judging from the state of the game, I'd also say incompetence played a key role as well.
Never listen to fans. Fans have no idea what they're looking for. The issue is the developers have no passion or care. The developers themselves should be the biggest fan of the product, that's why this has no soul, nobody cared what they're making
@@reservoirfrogs2177 fans literally had bullet point lists of what they were looking for. For starters, if you want a crime game the characters have to be criminals, not people that got picked on in school and act like manchildren with no tough or imposing qualities
This is how every industry makes their product. They don't give a shit about the customer's input and will make a game that "they like." I guarantee you, GTA 6 will be the same.
For Saints Row 1 and 2 fans, I understand your issues with 3 or 4. Especially 4. I played those though, and 3 and 4 were still fun. This, this is crazy.
1 and 2 are always going to be my favorites but 3 and 4 had their good moments and were still saints row and goofy fun. this was just complete dog shit
3 was cool and 4 was just loads of fun after fully accepting they weren't going back to the street gang aspect I was able to really enjoy 4 especially especially with mods lol
@Varsancton definitive editions were horrible all around. They took OLD games that worked fine and glitched the hell out of them, and they're still fixing shit. Lmao.
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@@ChimboFunk but weed shop 3 is actually fun to play, it’s a genuinely good game imo, just because the graphics are dogshit doesn’t mean it isn’t good. It’s one of the better simulators imo
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At this point, we DESERVE a Saints Row 2 Remastered. They officially killed Saints Row. That's not the nail in the coffin, that's the dirt finally burying it for good. Thanks a lot.
@@crimsonking440 I don't think they'd be the ones to do the remaster. Then again Rockstar themselves were dumb enough to hire mobile game devs or some shit to work on the definitive edition remasters. :/
After how bad they fucked this reboot and how bad rockstar fucked the GTA remastered trilogy I think it's better that they leave the og saints rows alone
i loved the part at the end of the game where the main character got in a boat with his friends and said, "Saints! Get to Rowing!". this truly was one of the games of all time.
I knew this game was going to be horrendous ever since the first trailer came out. There goes another beloved franchise that has been ruthlessly murdered.
"It feels like playing a 2006 game." My brother in christ, Gears of War and DMC 3 released in 2006. FEAR came out a year prior. This piece of shit feels like a bad PS1 game.
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It’s crazy how they made the first two games, as well as 3, and then every subsequent release from Volition has gotten worse and worse over the years. Saints Row 1 2 and 3 all had more going on in their cities. How did they not innovate on one thing? Everything seems like a downgrade from everything that came before it.
I always loved Saints Row for it's unique, cool, and funny weapons. The Dildo Bat, The airstrike, the one weapon in 4 that literally goes up the enemies ass and turns them into a nyan cat firework. I also loved how fleshed out the character creator was for a game back then.
Well if we take in consideration most of the original developers that made the first two games are not there anymore since then they got new talent in the studio which they’re not really talented because they made this dog shit game
@@thedarkforce9596 Definitely, they had the chance to prove that they could breath new life into Saints Row. Instead they have shat on the series. Saints Row 3 and 4 we're pretty bad, but this failure makes those games look pretty good.
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I loved SR3 and 4, I know SR4 is still a buggy mess today (my items and everything always disappear when visiting the portal door), but the gameplay is so fun. Love the superpowers!
Saints Row 4 is awesome in my opinion. It wasn’t afraid to get a bit weird even for Saints Row standards and they really let you feel overpowered. The game is a blast and that’s all it needs to be.
The powers is what killed the series for me. It made vehicles and even some weapons useless. Like I don't see how they could've went on with that formula.
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Sr3 was pretty mid to me since I don't remember what even happened in it. I remember sr2 even though I played it well before sr3 and haven't played it since. Sr2 was top tier
As a kid I loved playing Saints Row games. The amount of hours I’ve put into the Saints Row franchise is actually concerning. Mainly Saints Row 2 because that game is a literal masterpiece. So when I heard a new Saints Row came out guess what I did? I pre ordered the game about a month before release. I even put the custom Saints Row background on my PS4 because I was so excited to feel that rush of joy and happiness I felt as a kid while playing Saints Row. Then. The game comes out. Before I play it I look at the reviews on TH-cam and other platforms. Everyone was saying it was the worst game they’ve ever played, that it was so boring they’d rather shove their dick in a toaster. I didn’t believe them. I thought “No way. You can’t mess up Saints Row” (aside from Gat out of hell)….. and then. I played it. And oh my god the sadness and anger I felt seeing what my favorite franchise as a kid had come to. I couldn’t play for more than 2 hours. I uninstalled the game before the day even ended. This game is so bad I’d rather get punched in the face by Mike Tyson than play this game from beginning to end. Thank you this was my TED Talk.
Yeah, I don't quite get the reverence for Saints Row 2. It was good but it was ostensibly doing San Andreas because GTA IV was such a buttoned up experience. Fine for the time but The Third will be talked about for decades.
The problem with gaming these days is that it became mainstream. The innovative companies of the day with small teams of passionate developers went public and taken over by corporate overlords who's main objective is profits for the shareholders. As a result, we're getting rushed, mass produced, uninspired, focus group tested, cookie cutter products that attempt to emulate what was the best-seller last year. That's why most games, movies and shows all feel very similar and (most of the time) dull anymore. They're just going through a checklist for mass appeal in an attempt to maximize sales. There's little to no risk taking anymore. Sure, you'll see a glimpse of passion or something unique that the developers managed to keep in the product but they're ultimately drowned out by the excessive, "kids these days like this, right?" BS that upper management forces through. And this is also why most of the best titles these days are coming from indie developers.
Man. This comment just makes me sad. You know it was all over for the glory days when people started asking game company management "so what's your favourite game?" And they respond "oh I don't play games, I just heard there's up and coming money opportunities here". (Yes something like this really did happen, although I can't remember the specifics).
"Vision trumps graphical fidelity." Fucking thank you. Some of my favorite games of all times are either outdated graphically by now or look like absolute ass by intention.
Outdated graphically is not the same as bad graphics. For instance, Shadow of the Colossus is outdated by being a PS2 game, but it still looks good and miles better than a new Pokémon game, because they made the most of the limitations
@@aceman0000099 Yeah but some kids these days can't be asked to play games like that because "it looks so bad". Meanwhile I'm over here playing Cruelty Squad being like, "...What's your point, ya spoiled brat?"
@Pulsar *deep inhale* Okay I'm gonna put my biases in check for a moment (I do not like modern war shooters for various reasons) to point out that you appear to have missed the point of the statement. "Vision *trumps* graphical fidelity". At no point did I say "graphical fidelity does not enhance the presentation of a vision". Your Battlefield game could have looked like complete ass and still have been one of the best in the series on the merits of its gameplay and sound design alone. I am not saying that good graphics cannot enhance an already enjoyable experience. I AM saying that if a person cannot enjoy solidly built gameplay because the graphics were not the best that could be provided or made in the HD era of gaming than, yes, that person is a spoiled brat and I will die on this hill. Not every game is made by a major studio that can carve their game from the shaved gold dust of God's holy throne, and if they can and still remember that they have to make an actual GAME than that's all the better for the experience, obviously. I would be hard pressed however to think of a game with good core gameplay mechanics that becomes unplayable due to a visual element of the game. I'm sure I could think of one given time, such as something that overuses bloom and lighting mechanics, or failing to use visual cues properly, but that again falls more into the category of "vision" and subsequent failure of said vision than it does "graphical fidelity". Off the top of my head there's only one hypothetical example of how poor visuals would ruin a gameplay experience with good core mechanics to me, and that would be if the visuals in question are so chunky and muddled that reading what the player is supposed to react to becomes nigh impossible. Alternatively, expecting the player to react to too much visual input which isn't diverse enough to be discernable. Daikatana may be a good example. Even Daikatana has redeeming factors I'm willing to appreciate despite the models looking like jagged play-doh, and the fact that the first several levels of the game are such a visual mess all I remember is brown and bright bloody green. What ruins that game is the fact that 3/4 of the game is a glorified escort quest written by a man with too much vision, ironically. Limitations of both gameplay AND graphics can be overcome by vision, so long as there is a unified goal to the presentation of the experience. People will feel that love and dedication, and try to fix what they can for years to come. What limited that game was not the ugly graphics but rather the overreliance on an ally AI that simply wasn't possible to program at the time, meanwhile the player movement and gun mechanics were actually solid because they were made by a bunch of the people responsible for Doom and Quake. This is why one of the most infamous games in gaming history still has a dedicated deathmatch community. When the vision of a thing fails however, the entire project goes down with it, regardless of the redeeming qualities therein. Lower the resolution and poly count of a good game and it's still a good game that looks slightly worse. Raise the resolution and poly count on a bad game and it is still shit. If you can actually have your cake and eat it too, good for you, but that doesn't mean a game that looks bad cannot still be leagues better than a game that looks good. I'm gonna take this a step further and say vision can trump programming limitations as well, as long as there is genuine love put into the project and vision is willing to meet practicality halfway. You can like good graphics all you want, but not being able to enjoy something without them does, in fact, make you spoiled. Not every good game is high profile enough that it is reasonable to request the developers remaster it visually for the modern age, and as the Resident Evil Remake series has proven it is updates to core gameplay mechanics that go significantly further in re-achieving the original vision in the modern day. REmake 1 was nice visually, while REmake 2 fantastically transfers a good story into mechanical gameplay that is genuinely more suspenseful than anything the PS2 era could have achieved. That has nothing to do with how good the game looks. Destroy All Humans 2: Reprobed is coming out in a few days, and the first Destroy All Humans: Reprobed put significant effort into smoothing out the mechanics for the modern day and providing a few quality of life improvements, because they knew just tarting it up and making it look good wouldn't be enough. The gameplay quality must meet or exceed the quality of the visuals or the visuals do not matter. Tl;dr "It looks bad" is not a valid excuse when "it feels good".
@Pulsar I literally had to look up what "gatekeeping" is to make sure it meant what the word sounded like it meant since the context in which you are using it doesn't imply what it sounds like. I don't think that word means what you think it means, because I fail to see how I'm limiting or controlling access to anything. Unless you somehow interpreted me wanting people to appreciate substance over style as me trying to tell people what they are and are not allowed to spend their money on, which would frankly be reaching for a reason to insult me. I also now greatly resent you for insisting on continuing to use fucking Battlefield as an example when I made it clear I do not like this style of game in the first place. In fact it is my most hated genre of video games and the very reason WHY I decry the importance of a focus on graphics, but okay FINE since you insist. Guns in later installments feel lazier, even too easy to use at ranges they shouldn't be applicable in balanced gameplay. They also removed the ability to shoot holes in doors which makes camping in houses easier to foil without countersniping or explosives. Additionally trench warfare will always lend well to a competitive shooter setting since it provides solid cover that can easily be foiled by a grenade. Speaking of, I appreciate BF1 taking the time to program actual craters in the ground from explosives which is strangely lacking from later installments. It also seems as though attention to detail was sacrificed in V as by all accounts there is less dedication to accuracy to the setting, and 2042 is nonsense that takes place in a hypothetical future so I'm not even touching that. I will observe that futuristic gadgets feels like the Assassin's Creed issue of adding in too many ways to kill a person that no one asked for. The colors also feel washed out at this point, and both games seem to have sacrificed something or another for the sake of following the battle royale trend. I'm not a multiplayer person however, so I'd rather address the story. A primary reason why I am adverse to these types of games it due to the romanticizing of warfare, and BF1's story is largely described as "dark" as apposed to "cool" which I take as a good thing. So BF1 is also regarded by fans (at least in comments I'm seeing) as better mechanically because of an emphasis on balance without adding superfluous details/options which do not enhance an experience, and the better graphics are a bonus that only serves to enhance an already solid experience. Not to mention a more grounded campaign. So, none of what you said disproves what I said about how BF1 would still be regarded well if it had lower texture quality and poly counts, unless you want to actually elaborate on how the later games are mechanically superior in your own words instead of pointing me to someone else's opinion. I also find it a very interesting decision that you would direct me to the review of a game by someone who actually seems to *share* my mentality regarding these things, that being that sometimes popular things are only popular because people aren't cultured enough to know better and simply eat the fanciest looking thing put on their plate. He's not salty about it like I am, but the popularity of Red Dead 2 only seems to add credence to my calling people who only want to enjoy things that look good "spoiled brats". You even blatantly admit that most reviews agree with the sentiment that Red Dead 2 is a shallow experience not worthy of the praise it gets from the general public, and you think this is proving your point that graphics are worth fan dedication? You and the general public can be entitled to your opinions, but sometimes your opinion is objectively wrong and you just don't want to hear it. That's the same reason people got mad at Charlie here for saying this game here looked like shit upon the gameplay trailer, cause they saw something shiny on their plate they wanted to eat it up like good unquestioning dogs. In this particular instance though the icing on the cake isn't distracting enough to ignore how little substance is in this Saints Reboot. I guess taste doesn't matter in the face of broad appeal though. That buffet for the eyes is all most people care about, which is why it's so great that the vast majority of major game releases focus on giving us as little of the actually interactable and dynamic game experience as possible and instead focus on "look at how cool this thing is, now give us your money". It's this kind of mentality that is the reason why unique and interesting ideas never make it to the AAA market anymore, and all we get out of major publishers is the same tripe wheeled out year to year with a different, shinier paintjob, which demands more and more crunch time from poor developers who just want to go home, have dinner, and sleep for once. Tl;dr You are simply part of the problem as to why the major gaming market has been suffering from lack of diversity and creativity, and so many people being a defender for shallow games that look good is why the Saints Reboot is allowed to exist in the first place.
It blows my mind that it is easier to make games than ever before since there are so many resources you can use but AAA million dollar companies are still consistently churning out shitty games. I remember back when games were actually finished when they came out and they were consistently good. At what point in time did almost the whole industry seemingly agree to make it look like creating an actual good game was an impossible task. Games are important to me and the decline in the industry genuinely makes me sad.
It’s because these days they aren’t just trying to make fun goofy games. They are trying to have a “message”. They wanna “critique capitalism” and talk about pop feminism. When did gaming industry get taken over by duechy hipsters?
@@lilbltxh it’s stoping them because it’s making them out of touch with what the average kid actually finds fun. There is only a limited amount of development time and they spent it on all the wrong stuff, clearly. Look how the final product of the game turned out. a lot of the jokes from the old games would get you cancelled like the gimp suit for example. Developers worrying about getting canceled is absolutely resulting in boring unfunny games like the newest Saints imo.
@@ThinWhiteLuke the cancel culture shit is so exaggerated if gta 6 has a gimp suit no one will cancel it for having a gimp suit but that’s beside the point i was trying to make, mortal kombat X for example had a horrible story but the gameplay was fun so people liked it. good writing can help a game a lot but bad writing doesn’t cause gameplay to be bad
@@lilbltxh I'm not 100% on they're reasoning here, but I will say that a bad story can make good gameplay not seem worth it to play. I've had a few games where i actually enjoyed the gameplay, but the story completely took me out of the world and caused me to stop playing. Off the top of my head Lost Ark, and Borderlands 3. Both made me give up purely because i just couldn't get into the story or world no matter how much i wanted to, and i'd definitely say that borderlands 3 had many improvements in gameplay compared to 2 and i still enjoy going back to 2 just because the world is more enjoyable.
Agreed. The writing staff was definitely concerned about offfending new players but by that extension they drew in criticisms from the old ones that own every game (like me). Also I'll argue that the Saints Row storyline was never really good, it was always mediocre. But it's the way the story plays out that became their niche; for Saints Row it isn't about the destination it's the journey. It's hard seeing how well the formula worked in The Third, and how underwhelming this one seems after coming so far in the franchise. We'll see how far I get before I'm bored to death, like Watch Dogs Legion.
Which is weird, because the saints row games were never infamous for being offensive. In fact, it was quite the opposite because there were one of the few games that let you play as a woman with a dick and have sex with characters of the same gender.
The characters is what made me love the saint row series actually felt like everyone is friends with each other as they shit talk each other, removing that and replacing the old Character is a major downfall for me
I was playing since Saints row 2 and I loved how insane the story got (yes even SR4 and all the alien stuff) it was a huge way of saying "we are NOT a GTA clone" but hearing how everything just went downhill is just sad. I trust Charlie's opinion and it does look and sound bad.
Right? This is what Saints Row had over Grand Theft Auto: the true freedom to be totally unapologetic and truly satirical in its references to popular culture and the state of the world during its time. It was always a satirical parody of the times, not ever a "gangster simulation". Even GTA comes nowhere close to being a gangster sim. For those who expected it to be, you have Mafia and The Godfather to experience true organised crime in all of its video game glory. The reboot is satirical, absolutely, and it does make fun little jokes when it's being self-aware. However, it's too safe. Saints Row is no longer unapologetic (they abbreviated Freckle Bitch's diner and renamed Rim Jobs to Jim Rob's, like bruh) which is where Volition lost me.
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Watching Saints Row go from crazy open world, with sup par gameplay, but absolutely amazing missions, good story with great characters and silly activities to this is just depressing.
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I think the worst thing about this is the gameplay, not only is it as ancient as fossils its just straight up a click and shoot game. Ive seen roblox games have more advanced third person shooting mechanics, and more fun gameplay thwn this bullet sponge nerf war mess.
Good thing we have the Moist meter otherwise I would have had to play it. Imagine a world without the moist meter where bad games would be considered good. Thank you charlie for everything you do for gamers. We salute you. I would have never known this game was bad unless I had the meter. You still have yet to do a Moist Meter for Mr.Krabs speedrun.
Its noit always good because i trusted him with ff7 remake. He gave it a 85/100 and i wa crying out of boredom and completed the story only becaue i felt bad i paid money for it.
Rightt instead of making this a game fanz want they choose to kill the seriez off with cringey hipsterz I guarantee if they kept the same comdey an seriousness of saintz row 2 it wouldnt have went this route
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This game manages to displease both SR 1&2 players and SR 3&4 players simultaniously which is genuinely amazing they got both saints row generations to band together to shit on this game.
In an alternate world this was a marketing stunt where the old crew just guns down the hippie saints row in the beginning of the game. Would have been the greatest come back. Anyway hope the franchise takes a rest after this.
Kind of a shame really
@@kavetion8752 waste of a human being
it's honestly an achievement, they should've known he who chases two rabbits catches none
It's like what happened with star wars
The OT fans used to hate the PT Fans
But when the ST came out they banded together to s*** on that corporate garbage
Guys, he finished Fast and Furious Crossroads. He didn't finish this. Let that sink in.
Jesus christ
Fast and Furious Crossroads is an underrated masterpiece of "It's so bad, it's good"
This, is just underwhelming
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I don't like it when people say the gameplay feels dated. It's not dated, if it was dated it would be fun. The gameplay is trash, it tries to reinvent the wheel at every corner and fails miserably, if they had copy-pasted the combat from SR4 or even SR3 then it would be a lot more bearable to play, if nothing else.
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brain rotted developers
Today 80% of games studios dont need to exist.
From everything I've seen I think it's safe to say this is the dead rising 4 of the saints row franchise.
This just confirms to me that Saints Row as a franchise is dead in the sand. What a shame
I’m better than penguinz0
Dont read my name😑.
Imagine being a fan in the first place lmao
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I have to thank you Charlie for not having another Saints row stream
Saints row 2 was genuinely so good, sad to see the saints row series regress with each edition
Tbh I thought the world wasn’t that empty. There’s unique shops you can enter for your clothes. There’s random shit going on like people with their car broken down on the side of the road. Cops helping them out. People performing music and others dancing to it. I’ve only played a few hours so far. I had to see if it’s really as bad as everyone says.
There’s things that I like. Customization, rag doll effects, art direction, working vehicle chases unlike cyberpunk. Haven’t really experienced bugs besides some clipping. I’ll probably keep playing it just to mess around in the open world. Main missions have been sucking tho which seems like all that Charlie played.
Can you make faction warfare happen between other gangs and cops? Like cause battles and stuff?
@@nousername2942 I tried it once, but they sort of do...? The wanted system in this game though is not good, they took Just cause good wanted system and shit on it so most of the time whoever shoots the guy calling reinforcements, wins.
@@nousername2942 there is different factions but I haven’t seen them fighting each other yet. Could be possible though
@@nhanon67as I don't know if later on there will be rival factions fighting each other, but just on the main story missions there is.
I think it was mission 5 or 6 I was playing when the Idols crew come and attack the Panteras crew who are in the middle of attacking me.
So yeah, the rival factions do actually fight each other... But so far, I only saw it on that 1 mission.
Then I got bored and turned the game off, regretting that I wasted my money buying this game pre-order.
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I wish we lived in a universe where charlie made a moist meter on saints row 3
The way Charlie is describing the humor and silliness being bogged down is like the scene in step brothers where Seth Rogan thinks the tuxedos are funny until John c Riley farts and has to say “on second thought the tuxedos seem kinda fucked up.”
I’m just sick of not listening too reviewers when they say don’t waste your money, i want a refund so bad and I have no one too blame but myself for not listening too anyone. I’ve played every single saints row at launch so I was biased and love saints row but I’m not exaggerating when I say this, but this is easily in the top ten worst game of the past five years.
I loved all the other saints rows too but did you honestly not see the trailer to this game?
Yeah, I'm the same. Tbh, I wasn't going to get it, but the lackluster games selection on the PS5 right now is abysmal so I caved. Going forward from now, I'm listening to reviewers on here, not IGN or those shills that are paid to make a product look good. Take it as a lesson going forward, that's what I'm doing 👍
@@dontknowme1792 I did and I hated it, but me being optimistic even after all the reviews shitting on this game mix with the lack luster of games rn and plus I just got paid lol, I got weak and desperate. So yeah no one else to blame, seriously don’t even play this game even as a joke.
@@wizzykhalifa3552 fair enough. I did the same with watchdogs legion. I'd just gotten paid and I liked the old games so I disregarded the reviews. That was the last time I would go against my gut feeling.
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The new Saints Row is actually amazing bros! It makes me want to play Gat out of Hell all over again
I can't help but feel bad for the developers. You know they probably didn't want this
As someone who’s unfortunately played this game. Charlie isn’t exaggerating at all, he’s 100% correct on everything he’s said. It’s sad & insane that a game from 2006 (original saints row) has better gameplay, shooting mechanics, & a more alive open world than a next gen game from 2022. Makes saints row 4 look like a master piece
The new Saints Row is definitely a game.
thats a good point.
could even say it's one of the games of all time.
I think any game where the game developers openly mock their player base when brought criticisms and concerns isn't worth playing
thank you Charlie for playing this game so we don’t have to.
Developers make games like this because they know it will still make a profit and please their bosses. People buying garbage like this is why the quality of video games has dwindled so far in the last few years. You can put zero effort into a project and make a boatload of money or you can put passion/hard work into a protect and make just as much. The choice is easy.
In 2006-2008 little did we know we were entering the golden age of gaming.
Now we’re incredibly lucky to get one high quality or remotely fun game release per year. So damn depressing, gaming really fucking sucks ass now.
So one of the few positives is something that's not that different from the gliding in SR4, or flying in Gat Out of Hell.
you cant even get a refund because the game is on epic games
It is not a AAA studio
It's like AA
They barely made money on Agents of Mayhem so I don't know what people thought this was gonna be
These people don't produce AAA and never had, it just used to be easier to make games
It took me 3 mins to get that charlie narrating this vid and mini screen charlie isn't talking
25% is too modest
saints row 2 was such a great mix of serious and silly. I've always wanted them to progress from that game, but they just didn't. shame. they were a great gta competitor during the gta 3 and 4 times but they don't even come close now.
I can't help but laugh at epic for paying them to make it an epic exclusive and for them to take the deal just to see it flop
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I love how Volition literally rebooted the series and still managed to fumble a clean slate, completely ignoring what made them have to reboot Saints Row in the first place.
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was saints row ever good, i always remember going into the character creation, making a freak, and then getting bored really quickly cringing at the dialog, and that was back in the demo so i wasn't even paying for it,
They need to reboot this reboot and do a proper job. Or just remake 2
Take me back to the days when games got progressively better not dramatically worse
Finna uninstall bf2042 to make room for bf4 lol
@@noncog1 finna? The hell you doing still playing bf2042
When exactly were those days?
@@Inebriated_Goat Before the death of Harambe
we've always had bad games
I like that Charlie decided to play as a 65 year old half-alien who's just emerged from a pool of olive oil
Lol
Eustace from Courage if he fell into a vat of oil
@@burp2019 lol
Around ~5:20
What I don’t understand is how a game like this actually passes game testing and people say “yup good game, this’ll sell”
Same mentality that we allowed before... "Just get it through the door, we fix it later"....we older gen players know precisely where it all went wrong.
You really think they do game testing?
one f-word: franchising. companies think a name of a product will somehow be engouh to make them money. happened with star wars, justice league and gears of war. and again all the care about is money, not product
@@hamchurger4566 yeah, all corporations just care about money, thats kind of like their main goal
@@Umbojug tbh i dont get how people say that stuff and not immediatelt think because money
There is a fine line between quirky fun and cringe. The OG Saint's Row worked because the main cast were a group of good friends but didn't hide that they are ABSOLUTE PSYCHOPATHS. The villains were also ABSOLUTE PSYCHOPATHS but they had friends and family.
There is tragedy and sadness in Saint's Row, but they were the result of consequences. As a result, the funny quirkiness worked in balance with how dark the games can get. In other words, the main cast were capital G Gangsters and lived a life of crime.
Can you say the same for this cast? Where they literally sip wine, talk about capitalism and student loans? Saint's Row 2 had missions where you'd literally throw shit everywhere, and that game had a more nuanced and in-depth criticism of Capitalism than this game.
That is the most accurate saints row can be described
Exactly, people that say "Saints row never had a story" are full of shit, 1 and 2 have pretty basic but pretty grounded stories with enough dark humor and actual dark and depressing tones all wrapped with actual smart criticism towards capitalism and gang culture.
not only that but the cast werent one note, Gat, was a crazy rambo killer, but he knew when to push and when not to, he also spoke with his gf giving him a reasonable loving person side, Gat was the guy who was crazy to storm the battlefront with a supersoaker, but smart enough to take cover and plan the attack first. the reason why gat is loved is cause hes crazy and smart giving reason why he can surivive such a world for so long, the key reason for him being loved is that he had a no f's given attitude, one of his best scenes is him on trial and he just calmly tells the judge to F off. you cant say you didnt like him cause he was competant
I'm convinced the people who like this game aren't real people
@@jorgeloredo100 SR1, tackles crime, how a normal citizen gets affected by crime, joins a gang and goes from passive to actively taking down gangs, to bring peace into the streets, SR2 story is that cops/corpos, were using the saints to get rid of the gangs to allow themselves to control of the citizens, that the new gangs are used by corpos and are immune from the laws due to cops making them the neccessary evil. where SR1 was saying how crime can affect society and ppl will join gangs to bring peace or revenge, SR2 was about how higher powers politics and business can control streets indirectly. the story was great, its in 3 that it turns out the world is full of criminal empires like in 2, and saints go against one, so it just seemed like cash grab and not really pushing the story just trying to make a game and sell, 4 just went wacky af and while gameplay mechanics is the most fun its also the lowest note in story for the SR
"It makes ubisoft open world look alive." Wow. Thats almost impressive.
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@@ItzMalick hey fam maybe you should promote yo shit on insta so you can give peeps a glimpse of your channel, i get it your just tryna get people to look but you have better luck on twitter, insta, maybe even snapchat but commenting on peoples comments really dont grab peoples attention
I think ac unity was the last time Ubisoft actual had a "lived in" world
To be fair,Ubisoft made a few alive open worlds past decade.Maybe not top quality but they at least made a bunch.
@@weshi5735 idk Watch Dogs 2 and AC Syndicate were pretty lived in, obviously they weren't GTA or RDR but what is lol
I hope the developers keep making games like this. I want to see how deep they could dig their own grave
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Yesss! We need Agents of Mayhem 2: More Mayhem with the main character's catchphrase "It's mayhem time!"
in the end people like EA will point at these reviews and go "See? Single Player games are dead!"
They'll still continue to make money off the majority of people who are casual gamers.
The writing of this game seems to be written by people who give standing ovation to a tv commercial .
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LOL now I'm picturing someone noclipping through their roof giving a standing salute to a radio jingle
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@@ItzMalick commenting stuff like that is how to keep people away from your channel. Don't beg
@@ItzMalick Begging on other channels is sad.
We had the lowest expectations for this game, *and they still underperformed*
Lmao
That should be an achievement in low quality product, btw what's up with the fucking bot responses
@ٴ because your neckbeard makes people turn the other direction
@Ankha Rule 34 Literally everyone is better than Kavetion. Get that through your thick skull.
Right? I was expecting it to be absolute garbage, but I was still surprised to see that it exceeded my expectations in being even more garbage to what I expected. Absolutely crazy how this franchise has killed itself like this.
"The kinder, gentler saints row is probably a step in the right direction" an actual critic.
This made me feel like gagging. Great job, whatever paid critic said that
I can’t believe what I just read. Jesus Christ.
💀
That's what you get when you let politics overtake art
Anyone who wants a kinder, gentler SR is not a SR fan. And why are we making games for people who are not fans while knowing full well we're alienating the fanbase that allowed us to make 4 games in the series over the span of one console cycle?
Saints Row 2 remains King. Buying apartments, properties, garages, hilarious characters yet with a serious undertone, a good story, fun combat. No more of this shit fr
I enjoyed SR3 Remastered, that game twisted my nipples
I know right were the SR2 remaster at maybe they don't want to remaster it to make the other games look better.
Lol, not to mention you could ACTUALLY take cover on a wall in SR2. Shits crazy.
Fun fact you can actually do that in this game.
@@The_Ranga_Guy oh, for real? Guess I’m just a brainlet, then, lol. Is the bind even hidden? Or am I worse than a brainlet? Lol
I’ve been hearing that Volition was giving fans the middle finger when they brought up their speculations of the game like a year ago, and now look at where they’re at. We can’t keep letting these gaming studios and companies get away with having these untouchable attitudes AND underperform.
I feel bad for the preorders cause it just lets them feed on that
Nah you should make fun of the shit people were complaining about.
Not that Volition did, even, but still. The complaints were not about the actual game.
@@evd549 I don't. If idiots are going to pre-order knowing the game will suck then it's their own fault. People keep pumping money into shit games, year after year, and wonder why they keep getting ripped off.
Just dont buy it, lol.
ITs easy let them get away with it by not buying it and they eather go bust or make good games again
It’s actually unreal that you’re better off buying a random game that was made 30 years ago than you are buying a random game that’s made today.
Not only that, but you could buy several random old games for the price of one modern random game, and even more if you wait for sales, im done with modern gaming, im playing my backlog and indies while the industry crashes for good
It's not unreal, it just means there's more games today, and with a similar chance of a "good game" happening, more games means you can find more you don't like than you did years ago.
You were also more likely to know the fewer games that came out at the times, so they didn't feel "random".
@@juicejooos It takes forever to make games now. Games were being pumped out constantly back then by companies people had never heard of before, it wasn’t “random”, it was random. The odds are skewed entirely in favor of games today. Yet… they still suck.
Selection bias. 90% of games made throughout history have been doo doo.
@@kryptico2240 Games are still being released regularly by "unknown" devs, we just like to call them indie.
I love living in an age where everything I used to love is dug up out of a grave and forced to exist for the sake of corporate greed and lack of original thought in the larger industry
If it makes ya feel any better that's nothing new
Up next is Beyond Good and Evil 2 and Vampire the Masquerades: Bloodlines 2.
Feels great, innit. Nothing is sacred anymore. Even Max Payne is getting a fucking remake.
Everything woke turns to shit. Now we have Saints Woke.
Yeah, the only good remakes of games have been Doom (2016) and Doom Eternal.
The writing was done by terminally online Twitter users.
Being able to make a game so bad Charlie doesn't see redeeming features is one hell of an achievement.
Watching him stream it was almost painful. He gave it a shot at first, but when it became obvious how bad it was, he just continued to dog it the entire time.
still gives it a 25% tho
@@limitnil is it as bad as Watch Dogs Legion?
@@ThinWhiteLuke Reboot looks like its try make fun SR1-SR3 but fail horribly.
I feel he’s honestly just riding the bandwagon at this point. It’s not 25% worthy in the slightest. That’s waaaay too low.
“THESE HOES AINT HOES”
Still one of the best lines in any game I’ve ever played 😂
@@Instabruh.User.. make sure you take care of your loved ones you wouldn’t want someone to hurt them
still bad
@@Instabruh.User.. reality will always snap back. Like a whip. Be careful. People like you dont get very far.
@@Instabruh.User.. Take a look at yourself and ask yourself if that was funny
@@Instabruh.User.. you’re never going to have a family and will definitely perish alone unless you mature saddo
I really like how the recommended GPU for this game is the 3080Ti, according to steam. And it looks only as good as Overwatch. It really tells you something about the studio's priorities.
I had to look it up because I didn't believe you. You're right. Even the official saints row site recommends the $1000 gpu to play on ultra.
overwatch looks far better than this game lol
@@Rotbeam99 yeah I didn't wanna spell it out but you're right. It's partially due to Overwatch having an inspired art style
@@SuperGorak 100, like critikal says art direction trumps graphics everytim
A fucking 3080ti? Have they no shame? Jesus Christ.
Let's be frank: did any of us really think the game was going to be spectacular from the very first trailer?
Yeah, definitely no. They tried the Watchdogs 2 hip and happening vibe and killed interest from everyone with a "How do you do fellow kids"
Nope, just thought it’d be a 7 and at least be alright but turns out to be a 4 instead and be the most barebones saints row ever
I at least thought the game was gonna play a bit differently, since the visuals in the trailer were a departure from the style of the past games. Lo and behold when I see gameplay that's not only running on the same engine, but with literally cut and pasted animations from the older games too. Why even reboot the series if you're just gonna do the same thing, but worse?
@@sketchywest1176 I Hadn't even thought of that.... shit your right, wtf?
Especially from the first gameplay trailer I could tell it was made with little effort and low resources.
This is a perfect example of “when you let Ai make a game” because no human could produce this trash.
I dunno, Volition's got form. Saints Row 1 launched broken, Agents of Mayhem had boring, boring mission design and they've never been able to make good DLC.
There are plenty of people who would make this trash because they are massively untalented hacks given their position because of nepotism or some idiotic rhetoric rather than skill
neah man. only humanity is capable of that level of stupidity
That's an insult to AI
Don't be Mean to the AI, it didn't do this
Genuinely amazing how they discarded their fans that stuck with the game through the beginning and even when it made a drastic change with SR3 and SR4 for a bunch of people who don't even care about their game in the firstplace. Bravo.
Yeah, they told us we weren’t wanted anymore. People like me have been there literally since launch day of the very first game. They felt if they went with the woke Twitter crowd instead of longtime and loyal customers, they would hit a home run. They get what they deserve and I won’t be sad if they get shut down (like they almost did with that piece of crap, Agents of Mayhem).
@@corvega_joe when will developers learn that appeasement to the Twitter monkeys will never work since those folk are never happy in their own lives.
This is far from the first time something like this has happened with a once-beloved franchise, and it certainly won't be the last.
@@corvega_joe like what about the woke Twitter crowd bullshit?
Just curious cause I haven't played it really so I was wondering what stuff you're talking about? Also isn't this a remake? So wouldn't this be from the original game years ago?
Again just curious cause I haven't played this so was just wondering for some examples is all. Thanks for letting me know if you can! :)
Thats what happens when companies are infected with the SJW virus.
On a positive note, I picked up Saints Row The Third Remastered for $15 and have been loving every minute of it
Was this on Xbox, Playstation, or pc. Wondering where to go looking for it
@@hossdelgado626 it’s free on PlayStation as long as u have the “extra” tier.
I got it free on epic games few months ago
That game was the one that started this whole downward spiral
@@Jacob-jx8dk Nah, that was 4
“Saints Row has always been dumb and weird” yes but there’s a difference between goofy fun and a downright broken, boring game
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To each their own at this point if you like it you do if you don’t you don’t.
@@Leamglo If you like it you have no taste and shouldn't be allowed to vote with your wallet.
@@mattcubed9658 oh no how dare i like a saints row game that works and plays better than the rest oh the horror
@@Leamglo How dare you think a bland ass game with awful characters is better than the rest. You need to be put down
This is why I love this guy he just saved me a bunch of money yes he had to suffer but he does it because he loves us
I ain't ever pay for these dogshit AAA """"games"""" pirates life brotha
@@rannnoch this isnt even worth it..
I'm honestly not sure what to fucking think of that bots comment. What the actual fuck
@@commoncreative Oh yeah i'm not gonna waste my time with this, since most modern games are like 40gb a piece, even still I pirate all my shit. If the game is worth buying; if I feel like the devs give even half a shit, then i'll buy it. Other than that...
@@Ocelotmaniac I just scroll past them
This was Volition's chance to shine. The perfect time for them to give us a new urban open world. GTA 6 is still far off. Many people (including me) are worried about its direction. This reboot could've sealed the deal for SR to get back into the fight and be a strong rival against GTA. If they had hit this out of the park, this franchise would've gone strong even into the future.
Instead we got this. And as a big fan of SR to the point of jokingly saying I'm "representing" with a friend whenever we wear anything purple in other games or even in real life, I am absolutely disappointed. I don't see the Saints coming back from this one. Maybe as a mobile game or a skin in Fortnite, who tf knows.
I despise this game with an unbelievable passion, they could’ve made a game that re-defined a genre that has grown stagnant and instead ruined literally everything from the original series instead of even trying to make improvements. This series is unfortunately dead in the mud and it’s sad that it’s the truth. If they just took a look at other series such as the Yakuza series to learn how to balance seriousness with craziness alongside taking the core gameplay of older SR games and expanding upon that alone and we would’ve had an amazing reboot. Alas, this isn’t the case and never will be. SR4 was the last decent SR with the last great being SR3. Such a waste of a great series.
this broke my heart. I also say i'm reppping when I wear purple. SR is why it's my favourite colour. I grew up with fun whacky gmeplay where my OC makes goofy one liners and roasts the shit outta people. I miss SR so much. I hate knowing this is the end of the only true GTA competition.
I guess we’ll have to do with Pierce doing cameos in other games…
Yeah, but it's not like I ever expect Saints Row to ever rival GTA.
@@forlorn9134 they did for a really long time. Before agents of mayhem ruined my life I preferred Sr to GTA
They took the Name we all love and cherish “Saints Row” into a soulless 60$ price tag cash grab. All the hate is very well deserved
Really is Saints Row in name only, just like many game series nowadays, well said
NOT TRUE
I remember playing Saints Row 2 and having an absolute blast back in the day. Taking out rival gangs, pumping reggae in the car, exploring Stilwater to the fullest extent; so many good times. So seeing the franchise be reduced to this garbage is just absolutely heartbreaking.
*Stilwater
@@dandanger5637 *Stilwater
@@jlo9993 "and it's with one L, bitch." No joke, that was in a billboard from the 1st game 😂😂
Saints Row 1 & 2 are phenomenal games, not sure wtf happened after that.
@@jlo9993 whatever, it's still technically a right name
This game is a perfect reflection of people that don't listen to their fanbase and makes San Andreas: Definitive Edition a complete masterpiece.
@@kavetion8752 his name is cr1tikal
Eh I mean, depends on which part of the fanbase you're talking about.
The people saying it doesn't look particularly good? Sure. The people bitching about it being woke? Fuck outta here
@@Hyperlink1337 he has many names.
absolutely spot on !
I'm sick and tired of this braindead generation of bandwagon hate. The definitive editions of GTA 3- Sa, vice city arent bad at all.
I had fun playing the previous Saint's Row games and really wanted this new one to be good, but my hope in that was crushed as soon as the first trailer was shown. And the hope just get kept getting dimmer and dimmer with each new trailer. I want there to be more Saint's Row in the future, but it's looking like putting this series to rest is the only right answer at this time.
I swear I was hoping really hard too
It’s like they ripped out every recognizable and fun aspect of the old games to the point where this isn’t even a part of the same series anymore
Why dont you try it out first before giving an opinion.
@@matthewgonano636 Its a bad game. Get used to it
Yeah I love all the other games
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I really hate that another game franchise that I loved is ruined. There is no actual love put into the game, which sucks because I loved SR for it's funny/wacky or had humor that was outlandish.
Saints row died a while ago bro 🗿
@@wrldren Yeah, but at least the past ones were way better than this pile of crap.
Personally, I think that Saints Row 3 def wasn't as bad as people say it was. Gameplay was enjoyable and dialogue was fun. But to each their own I guess.
@@DatMasterHunts That’s fair
@@zengoku4518 Right. I have both a love for both SR2 and SR3. They are really different in terms of tone, but at least they were fun to play.
A 25% on the Moist Meter is kinder than this deserves. Maybe I'm extra jaded because Saints Row was my favorite franchise but I look at this and cant imagine it even being worth a fraction of that. Especially for $60. It couldve been $20 and the game wouldve still been trash, but for $60 this is inexcusably bad.
Pricing is never representative of quality in videogames. Like even a bit.
I think the 25% is fair again I’m gonna wait on this game for now I’m glad I didn’t pick it up day one
@@arcanefire7511 I never said pricing is representative of quality, what I said is I'll be a lot more forgiving of a game that is $20 than a game that is $60+.
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Rip saints row.
When I heard the rumors about the remake being "safer" than the previous games I was taking it with a grain of salt, but wow they really bit into the giant corporate cookie with this one. It's the Saints Row, but the bare minimum and without any of the soul or memorable characters.
Whenever a game tries "playing safe", cancel your preorder immediately. That means the new game will be deprived of features that made the past games good/great.
@@dillonc7955 I don't particularly remember this game saying it'll be safe, let alone others.
@@dillonc7955 You should never preorder a game to begin with. Preordering a game almost always leads to disappointment.
@@anakinlowground5515 really depends. There's a few developers I'd preorder from. Because I trust in them delivering a quality experience. But from the moment the trailer dropped I was skeptical. I might get it, when it drops on sale for 10 bucks or less. Otherwise I'll probably just replay 2 or 3.
@@dillonc7955 better yet, don't ever pre-order in the first place
They got Saints Row, one of the wildest stories in any series, with insane over the top characters and lowbrow over the top comedy, and gave them to a team of hipster college students.
It's all that needs to be said.
I loved Saints Row 3, it was a very fun sandbox game to play for a while between games without having to spend a lot of time thinking, and, the best I can hope for this game, is that maybe, one day, Saints Row will go back to that formula, be good, and make fun of this piece of digital trash.
What they don't get is that the series was founded on a fundamental. Telling a gripping story with cinema-worthy writing and directing, while giving the players the offerings and freedom to do more absurd things outside of the storytelling.
Things started to take a turn when they decided that blending some of the absurdity to buff-up story plots and sequences was the way to evolve the series. 3 still told a decent story, but was executed in bombastic ways that felt like they belonged outside of it.
4 went south as a Saints Row. There was some series closure in the (sprinkled) main story missions, but the overall plot just murders the fundamental storytelling.
Now we have... what can only be described as something Shaundi Pierce and Gat would be watching on TV until Gat had enough and shot the TV.
Are we forgetting that in 2006 they released a fast and the furious wannabe simulator? This is no different.
You liked SR3? the game that had the worst city? hoo boy that revisionism is strong.
Its crazy how in like '06 we were entering the golden age of gaming and we didn't even know or appreciate it until it was gone. I remember loading up SR3 and 4 for the first time and being blown away by how much stupid fun playing it was. It's a shame that they couldn't pull that off here.
There was never a "golden age" of gaming. That is just pure nostalgia speaking. Bad video games have always existed but oh no, a bad new release and all of a sudden it's the "end of gaming". Also, you really choose SR3 and 4 as examples? You realize those games are divisive in the SR community, right? Many OG fans hate those games.
@@theobell2002 Maybe 4, but i don't think 3 is hated by the OG fans
@@theobell2002 The golden age of gaming doesn’t just refer to a bunch of good games that were released it also refers to a time where there were almost no microtransactions, the greed wasn’t as overflowing people would give EA shit for things that every company does now, the games were finished products, and they didn’t use live service as an excuse to release the most barebones basic ass game that they can deliver. I could go on and on about the differences frfr
@@theobell2002 T. Someone who never experienced it.
SR2>1>3>4 is how alot see it I reckon, but maybe it's from nostalgia
Its actually impressive how they managed to both piss off fans of the OG Saints Rows, aswell as fans of the newer ones 💀
That's gotta count for something, right?
yea the 2 for 1 total failure
Neither of those markets exist in their eyes. The majority of the market are braindead consumers that will buy anything new, and small children.
Look at the gaming industry with this perspective and it all makes perfect sense why every big-budget product from this industry is dogshit.
People are actually defending this 😂
yup
@@evolicious this is true as well
I don't understand why they couldn't just bounce off of SR2 like don't get me wrong I enjoyed 3 but SR2 is one of my favorite games of all time from the seriousness of the missions (Aisha's death mission) to fuckin around for hours with insurance fraud. But the game had personality from the cribs and personalization to the fighting styles (why don't more games let you choose how you fight anymore) and the villains of the game and even one of side characters were extremely fleshed out and perfectly executed. Looking at you Carlos and maero.
Jump almost 15 years or whatever it is and we now have this super sized dog shit. Like it's so stupid and highly disrespectful for who made your games and and company boom in the first place
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I agree, sr2 is literally my favorite saints row game and i honestly love it more than the third and 4th one, when the third one came out i found it boring compared to the second honestly 😭
I must have played SR2 online for 500 hours.
I'll go as far as to say even IV had something to offer, in terms of locomotion and new combat mechanics.
SR3 was funny as shit. I had a blast playing it with my buddy. The 4th one was really repetitive though and got old fast. The gat out of hell dlc was better than the main game IMO
its crazy how the first saints row that came out in 2006 has a better map then the rebboot
better gunplay, better driving, visually coherent. less bugs/glitches, better story, better characters, better missions, better activities, better npc dialogue, better npc ai.
@Ankha Rule 34 lol
@@NidokingOtsutsuki so mf true
Stillwater was amazing. Even more so in SR2. The open world design has just been going downhill since SR3
@@rickybobby3960 ikr smh we won’t have a open world game based in the city with country side in a long time smh they were a different feel nowadays they’re no where in sight smh
I swear saints Row should've taken place after 4 where the saints go back in time to somewhere between 2 and 3 and then create a new timeline as a soft reboot. They could've been so self aware and made so many jokes about it
They could've created a narrative where the saints are causing chaos and having fun throughout time then the boss realizing the saints were too over the top and have gone astray from thier origins and used the time machine to create a new alternative time line as a soft reboot and return back to a style closer to 2 or at least one that wasn't as over the top as 3.
That would have been fun though and we can't have that.
@@OtakuWrath yeah like I could already imagine a montage st the beginning of them joy riding across time, and the boss deciding they're gone too far from thier origins and the saints taking out the threats that would appear later in 3 and 4. Then finally the game taking place between 2 and 3 where the boss is the only one who remembers or know the events of 3 and 4. They could've made it self aware as hell while also going back to a place where they can tone down the craziness that came with 3 and 4
i had the same thought. An alternate saints row 3 where they didnt become corporate shills that sell energy drinks.
@@NidokingOtsutsuki I only played 3 and 4 and I've heard people saying they liked 2 since later games were too over the top. I would've loved to experience what everyone was talking about. And I felt like the time machine at the end of 4 was the perfect way to soft reboot the series. They could've done a montage that started off over the top but then also be self aware of how over the top they have become and the boss wanting to return to how the saints were before, and boom time machine for soft reboot
I’m better than Penguinz0
The developers literally had step by step instructions on how to make a new saints row game from over a decade of feedback from the fans, and they somehow made the worst. Is it narcissism on the part of the developers thinking the fans are stupid and don't know what they're talking about, or just incompetence, or malice?
my guess is the director didnt gaf and wanted to make the game similar to the older ones for the same vibe.. but for some reason without improving on it. the beginning of the game was bad in a fun way in the beginning, but then you kinda realize that this game is actually dogshit 😂😂
I mean, in all fairness as a developer you don't want to just do everything your players tell you to do. But from what little I read, the developers seemed totally full of themselves and completely delusional. Judging from the state of the game, I'd also say incompetence played a key role as well.
Never listen to fans. Fans have no idea what they're looking for. The issue is the developers have no passion or care. The developers themselves should be the biggest fan of the product, that's why this has no soul, nobody cared what they're making
@@reservoirfrogs2177 fans literally had bullet point lists of what they were looking for.
For starters, if you want a crime game the characters have to be criminals, not people that got picked on in school and act like manchildren with no tough or imposing qualities
This is how every industry makes their product. They don't give a shit about the customer's input and will make a game that "they like." I guarantee you, GTA 6 will be the same.
For Saints Row 1 and 2 fans, I understand your issues with 3 or 4. Especially 4. I played those though, and 3 and 4 were still fun.
This, this is crazy.
I couldn’t agree with you more, respect homie.
2 was the peak of the series for me. But man 3 is a masterpiece compared to this.
the map is like if the desert at the start of cyberpunk 2077 was the whole game
1 and 2 are always going to be my favorites but 3 and 4 had their good moments and were still saints row and goofy fun. this was just complete dog shit
3 was cool and 4 was just loads of fun after fully accepting they weren't going back to the street gang aspect I was able to really enjoy 4 especially especially with mods lol
The moment we saw the trailer, everyone already thought the game was gonna be bad… God they were right
I feel like there is a universe where this game is good. There are a few things that *did* have potential, but they squandered and wasted it.
THESE BOTS ARE INSUFFERABLE
And we should've listened to them.
@@ValentinoMarino11 I reported a few, I really hope TH-cam takes action
It's TH-cam, so...nothing much if anything will happen.
This Saints Row reboot is giving me flashbacks of the GTA “Remastered” Collection from last year
@Varsancton Did we play the same game? Those remasters *sucked*, those games are way too old to have anything short of a full blown remake.
At least those games are actually good underneath all the jankiness
@Varsancton definitive editions were horrible all around. They took OLD games that worked fine and glitched the hell out of them, and they're still fixing shit. Lmao.
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Lol you know it’s bad when Charlie refuses to finish the game
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Cringe af!
But weed shop 3 is a great game? Lol ok sure
@@5hrimp_Nachos he’s clearly playing weed shop because it’s funny not because of how good it is
@@ChimboFunk but weed shop 3 is actually fun to play, it’s a genuinely good game imo, just because the graphics are dogshit doesn’t mean it isn’t good. It’s one of the better simulators imo
I literally came back to rewatch this because Volition studios is officially shutting down today
Same
This game makes Watch Dogs Legion look like a masterpiece.
Watch Dogs Legion was actually fun, especially since you could find real people's names (i found Edgar Wright and Gary King, who is fictional)
The aiden pierce dlc was not bad better then the whole game itself.
Only issue I had with the latest watch dogs is the map size
Better to have a smaller map in a city than a huge empty map
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At this point, we DESERVE a Saints Row 2 Remastered. They officially killed Saints Row. That's not the nail in the coffin, that's the dirt finally burying it for good. Thanks a lot.
You really wanted the shit covered hands that crafted this game to be anywhere near saints row 2? Id rather have cholera.
@@crimsonking440 I don't think they'd be the ones to do the remaster. Then again Rockstar themselves were dumb enough to hire mobile game devs or some shit to work on the definitive edition remasters. :/
After how bad they fucked this reboot and how bad rockstar fucked the GTA remastered trilogy I think it's better that they leave the og saints rows alone
That's all I want
Why would you want these people to touch saints row 2?
i loved the part at the end of the game where the main character got in a boat with his friends and said, "Saints! Get to Rowing!".
this truly was one of the games of all time.
Funny considering the history the og protagonist had with boats
Stray has a better cat model & animations ffs. 🤣🤣
I knew this game was going to be horrendous ever since the first trailer came out. There goes another beloved franchise that has been ruthlessly murdered.
Very frustrating because GTA really needs some competition.
Pokemons dead too :,)
@@TraveleroftheBurningAbyss Translation: “The graphics aren’t what I want so it’s bad :,)”
@@TraveleroftheBurningAbyss that's a lie
@@Maverick9k Pleaseeeeee tell me how 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭 don’t tell me you think the newer pokémon games are better than the old ones.
"It feels like playing a 2006 game."
My brother in christ, Gears of War and DMC 3 released in 2006. FEAR came out a year prior. This piece of shit feels like a bad PS1 game.
Fr!! I was about to say don't compare a piece of shit game like this to a time where devs actually put passion and soul into theirs. 😂
The FIRST Saints Row came out in 2006.
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“It never stops being embarrassing”
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
It’s crazy how they made the first two games, as well as 3, and then every subsequent release from Volition has gotten worse and worse over the years. Saints Row 1 2 and 3 all had more going on in their cities. How did they not innovate on one thing? Everything seems like a downgrade from everything that came before it.
3 was where everything went downhill. They completely lost the soul at that point.
I always loved Saints Row for it's unique, cool, and funny weapons.
The Dildo Bat, The airstrike, the one weapon in 4 that literally goes up the enemies ass and turns them into a nyan cat firework.
I also loved how fleshed out the character creator was for a game back then.
Well if we take in consideration most of the original developers that made the first two games are not there anymore since then they got new talent in the studio which they’re not really talented because they made this dog shit game
@@thedarkforce9596 Definitely, they had the chance to prove that they could breath new life into Saints Row. Instead they have shat on the series. Saints Row 3 and 4 we're pretty bad, but this failure makes those games look pretty good.
3 sucked. 1st and 2nd were the good ones with 2nd being absolutely goated
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Check “Worth A Buy” out, although he is more aggressive he is also always honest
Check out Zero Punctuation. He'll almost certainly be saying exactly what Mr. Moisture is in two weeks.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself
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@@ilijajakovljevic7449 Nah, I like Mac and some of his opinions but he's super biased too.
I loved SR3 and 4, I know SR4 is still a buggy mess today (my items and everything always disappear when visiting the portal door), but the gameplay is so fun. Love the superpowers!
SR 2 is good too.
Saints Row 4 is awesome in my opinion. It wasn’t afraid to get a bit weird even for Saints Row standards and they really let you feel overpowered. The game is a blast and that’s all it needs to be.
The powers is what killed the series for me.
It made vehicles and even some weapons useless.
Like I don't see how they could've went on with that formula.
@@Giliver
For me it was just I had so much fun with the powers I didn't really care
I’m better than Penguinz0
"a massive step down from even saints row 3"
i loved saints row 3, the peak of the series imo 😭
Same. A shitload of fun.
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Sr3 was pretty mid to me since I don't remember what even happened in it. I remember sr2 even though I played it well before sr3 and haven't played it since. Sr2 was top tier
As a kid I loved playing Saints Row games. The amount of hours I’ve put into the Saints Row franchise is actually concerning. Mainly Saints Row 2 because that game is a literal masterpiece. So when I heard a new Saints Row came out guess what I did? I pre ordered the game about a month before release. I even put the custom Saints Row background on my PS4 because I was so excited to feel that rush of joy and happiness I felt as a kid while playing Saints Row. Then. The game comes out. Before I play it I look at the reviews on TH-cam and other platforms. Everyone was saying it was the worst game they’ve ever played, that it was so boring they’d rather shove their dick in a toaster. I didn’t believe them. I thought “No way. You can’t mess up Saints Row” (aside from Gat out of hell)….. and then. I played it. And oh my god the sadness and anger I felt seeing what my favorite franchise as a kid had come to. I couldn’t play for more than 2 hours. I uninstalled the game before the day even ended. This game is so bad I’d rather get punched in the face by Mike Tyson than play this game from beginning to end. Thank you this was my TED Talk.
This game is very moist a very moist piece of fecal matter at the bottom of the shit pool.
Saints Row 2 was the peak of this franchise. Such a great game with a memorable soundtrack but the rest have paled in comparison.
false. the third was amazing.
Yeah, I don't quite get the reverence for Saints Row 2. It was good but it was ostensibly doing San Andreas because GTA IV was such a buttoned up experience. Fine for the time but The Third will be talked about for decades.
Third was the best one imo
Whichever (that's probably not a real word is it) game had superpowers and had you kill aliens was really cool. That one and 2.
@@michaelkitchin9665 delusional
The problem with gaming these days is that it became mainstream. The innovative companies of the day with small teams of passionate developers went public and taken over by corporate overlords who's main objective is profits for the shareholders.
As a result, we're getting rushed, mass produced, uninspired, focus group tested, cookie cutter products that attempt to emulate what was the best-seller last year.
That's why most games, movies and shows all feel very similar and (most of the time) dull anymore.
They're just going through a checklist for mass appeal in an attempt to maximize sales. There's little to no risk taking anymore. Sure, you'll see a glimpse of passion or something unique that the developers managed to keep in the product but they're ultimately drowned out by the excessive, "kids these days like this, right?" BS that upper management forces through.
And this is also why most of the best titles these days are coming from indie developers.
Yah thats called capitalism buddy
That's late stage capitalism for you
Well put imo
Man. This comment just makes me sad. You know it was all over for the glory days when people started asking game company management "so what's your favourite game?" And they respond "oh I don't play games, I just heard there's up and coming money opportunities here". (Yes something like this really did happen, although I can't remember the specifics).
@Mr Bruh Forreal. The absolute tidal wave of open world survival crafting games with zombie-lite enemies in the mid 2010s....
"Vision trumps graphical fidelity."
Fucking thank you. Some of my favorite games of all times are either outdated graphically by now or look like absolute ass by intention.
Outdated graphically is not the same as bad graphics. For instance, Shadow of the Colossus is outdated by being a PS2 game, but it still looks good and miles better than a new Pokémon game, because they made the most of the limitations
@@aceman0000099 Yeah but some kids these days can't be asked to play games like that because "it looks so bad".
Meanwhile I'm over here playing Cruelty Squad being like, "...What's your point, ya spoiled brat?"
@Pulsar *deep inhale* Okay I'm gonna put my biases in check for a moment (I do not like modern war shooters for various reasons) to point out that you appear to have missed the point of the statement.
"Vision *trumps* graphical fidelity". At no point did I say "graphical fidelity does not enhance the presentation of a vision".
Your Battlefield game could have looked like complete ass and still have been one of the best in the series on the merits of its gameplay and sound design alone. I am not saying that good graphics cannot enhance an already enjoyable experience. I AM saying that if a person cannot enjoy solidly built gameplay because the graphics were not the best that could be provided or made in the HD era of gaming than, yes, that person is a spoiled brat and I will die on this hill. Not every game is made by a major studio that can carve their game from the shaved gold dust of God's holy throne, and if they can and still remember that they have to make an actual GAME than that's all the better for the experience, obviously.
I would be hard pressed however to think of a game with good core gameplay mechanics that becomes unplayable due to a visual element of the game. I'm sure I could think of one given time, such as something that overuses bloom and lighting mechanics, or failing to use visual cues properly, but that again falls more into the category of "vision" and subsequent failure of said vision than it does "graphical fidelity". Off the top of my head there's only one hypothetical example of how poor visuals would ruin a gameplay experience with good core mechanics to me, and that would be if the visuals in question are so chunky and muddled that reading what the player is supposed to react to becomes nigh impossible. Alternatively, expecting the player to react to too much visual input which isn't diverse enough to be discernable.
Daikatana may be a good example. Even Daikatana has redeeming factors I'm willing to appreciate despite the models looking like jagged play-doh, and the fact that the first several levels of the game are such a visual mess all I remember is brown and bright bloody green. What ruins that game is the fact that 3/4 of the game is a glorified escort quest written by a man with too much vision, ironically. Limitations of both gameplay AND graphics can be overcome by vision, so long as there is a unified goal to the presentation of the experience. People will feel that love and dedication, and try to fix what they can for years to come. What limited that game was not the ugly graphics but rather the overreliance on an ally AI that simply wasn't possible to program at the time, meanwhile the player movement and gun mechanics were actually solid because they were made by a bunch of the people responsible for Doom and Quake. This is why one of the most infamous games in gaming history still has a dedicated deathmatch community. When the vision of a thing fails however, the entire project goes down with it, regardless of the redeeming qualities therein.
Lower the resolution and poly count of a good game and it's still a good game that looks slightly worse. Raise the resolution and poly count on a bad game and it is still shit. If you can actually have your cake and eat it too, good for you, but that doesn't mean a game that looks bad cannot still be leagues better than a game that looks good. I'm gonna take this a step further and say vision can trump programming limitations as well, as long as there is genuine love put into the project and vision is willing to meet practicality halfway.
You can like good graphics all you want, but not being able to enjoy something without them does, in fact, make you spoiled. Not every good game is high profile enough that it is reasonable to request the developers remaster it visually for the modern age, and as the Resident Evil Remake series has proven it is updates to core gameplay mechanics that go significantly further in re-achieving the original vision in the modern day. REmake 1 was nice visually, while REmake 2 fantastically transfers a good story into mechanical gameplay that is genuinely more suspenseful than anything the PS2 era could have achieved. That has nothing to do with how good the game looks. Destroy All Humans 2: Reprobed is coming out in a few days, and the first Destroy All Humans: Reprobed put significant effort into smoothing out the mechanics for the modern day and providing a few quality of life improvements, because they knew just tarting it up and making it look good wouldn't be enough. The gameplay quality must meet or exceed the quality of the visuals or the visuals do not matter.
Tl;dr "It looks bad" is not a valid excuse when "it feels good".
@Pulsar I literally had to look up what "gatekeeping" is to make sure it meant what the word sounded like it meant since the context in which you are using it doesn't imply what it sounds like. I don't think that word means what you think it means, because I fail to see how I'm limiting or controlling access to anything. Unless you somehow interpreted me wanting people to appreciate substance over style as me trying to tell people what they are and are not allowed to spend their money on, which would frankly be reaching for a reason to insult me.
I also now greatly resent you for insisting on continuing to use fucking Battlefield as an example when I made it clear I do not like this style of game in the first place. In fact it is my most hated genre of video games and the very reason WHY I decry the importance of a focus on graphics, but okay FINE since you insist.
Guns in later installments feel lazier, even too easy to use at ranges they shouldn't be applicable in balanced gameplay. They also removed the ability to shoot holes in doors which makes camping in houses easier to foil without countersniping or explosives. Additionally trench warfare will always lend well to a competitive shooter setting since it provides solid cover that can easily be foiled by a grenade. Speaking of, I appreciate BF1 taking the time to program actual craters in the ground from explosives which is strangely lacking from later installments. It also seems as though attention to detail was sacrificed in V as by all accounts there is less dedication to accuracy to the setting, and 2042 is nonsense that takes place in a hypothetical future so I'm not even touching that. I will observe that futuristic gadgets feels like the Assassin's Creed issue of adding in too many ways to kill a person that no one asked for. The colors also feel washed out at this point, and both games seem to have sacrificed something or another for the sake of following the battle royale trend. I'm not a multiplayer person however, so I'd rather address the story. A primary reason why I am adverse to these types of games it due to the romanticizing of warfare, and BF1's story is largely described as "dark" as apposed to "cool" which I take as a good thing.
So BF1 is also regarded by fans (at least in comments I'm seeing) as better mechanically because of an emphasis on balance without adding superfluous details/options which do not enhance an experience, and the better graphics are a bonus that only serves to enhance an already solid experience. Not to mention a more grounded campaign. So, none of what you said disproves what I said about how BF1 would still be regarded well if it had lower texture quality and poly counts, unless you want to actually elaborate on how the later games are mechanically superior in your own words instead of pointing me to someone else's opinion.
I also find it a very interesting decision that you would direct me to the review of a game by someone who actually seems to *share* my mentality regarding these things, that being that sometimes popular things are only popular because people aren't cultured enough to know better and simply eat the fanciest looking thing put on their plate. He's not salty about it like I am, but the popularity of Red Dead 2 only seems to add credence to my calling people who only want to enjoy things that look good "spoiled brats". You even blatantly admit that most reviews agree with the sentiment that Red Dead 2 is a shallow experience not worthy of the praise it gets from the general public, and you think this is proving your point that graphics are worth fan dedication? You and the general public can be entitled to your opinions, but sometimes your opinion is objectively wrong and you just don't want to hear it. That's the same reason people got mad at Charlie here for saying this game here looked like shit upon the gameplay trailer, cause they saw something shiny on their plate they wanted to eat it up like good unquestioning dogs. In this particular instance though the icing on the cake isn't distracting enough to ignore how little substance is in this Saints Reboot.
I guess taste doesn't matter in the face of broad appeal though. That buffet for the eyes is all most people care about, which is why it's so great that the vast majority of major game releases focus on giving us as little of the actually interactable and dynamic game experience as possible and instead focus on "look at how cool this thing is, now give us your money". It's this kind of mentality that is the reason why unique and interesting ideas never make it to the AAA market anymore, and all we get out of major publishers is the same tripe wheeled out year to year with a different, shinier paintjob, which demands more and more crunch time from poor developers who just want to go home, have dinner, and sleep for once.
Tl;dr You are simply part of the problem as to why the major gaming market has been suffering from lack of diversity and creativity, and so many people being a defender for shallow games that look good is why the Saints Reboot is allowed to exist in the first place.
It blows my mind that it is easier to make games than ever before since there are so many resources you can use but AAA million dollar companies are still consistently churning out shitty games. I remember back when games were actually finished when they came out and they were consistently good. At what point in time did almost the whole industry seemingly agree to make it look like creating an actual good game was an impossible task. Games are important to me and the decline in the industry genuinely makes me sad.
It’s because these days they aren’t just trying to make fun goofy games. They are trying to have a “message”. They wanna “critique capitalism” and talk about pop feminism. When did gaming industry get taken over by duechy hipsters?
@@ThinWhiteLuke even if that was the case how would that stop them from making good gameplay
@@lilbltxh it’s stoping them because it’s making them out of touch with what the average kid actually finds fun. There is only a limited amount of development time and they spent it on all the wrong stuff, clearly. Look how the final product of the game turned out. a lot of the jokes from the old games would get you cancelled like the gimp suit for example. Developers worrying about getting canceled is absolutely resulting in boring unfunny games like the newest Saints imo.
@@ThinWhiteLuke the cancel culture shit is so exaggerated if gta 6 has a gimp suit no one will cancel it for having a gimp suit but that’s beside the point i was trying to make, mortal kombat X for example had a horrible story but the gameplay was fun so people liked it. good writing can help a game a lot but bad writing doesn’t cause gameplay to be bad
@@lilbltxh I'm not 100% on they're reasoning here, but I will say that a bad story can make good gameplay not seem worth it to play. I've had a few games where i actually enjoyed the gameplay, but the story completely took me out of the world and caused me to stop playing. Off the top of my head Lost Ark, and Borderlands 3. Both made me give up purely because i just couldn't get into the story or world no matter how much i wanted to, and i'd definitely say that borderlands 3 had many improvements in gameplay compared to 2 and i still enjoy going back to 2 just because the world is more enjoyable.
Agreed. The writing staff was definitely concerned about offfending new players but by that extension they drew in criticisms from the old ones that own every game (like me). Also I'll argue that the Saints Row storyline was never really good, it was always mediocre. But it's the way the story plays out that became their niche; for Saints Row it isn't about the destination it's the journey. It's hard seeing how well the formula worked in The Third, and how underwhelming this one seems after coming so far in the franchise. We'll see how far I get before I'm bored to death, like Watch Dogs Legion.
Allegedly, Anita Sarkessian influenced the devs. That should tell you everything right there. That woman is the kiss of death for a game.
"The saints row storyline was never really good?" Have you played 1 and 2?
Which is weird, because the saints row games were never infamous for being offensive. In fact, it was quite the opposite because there were one of the few games that let you play as a woman with a dick and have sex with characters of the same gender.
Dude Saints Row 2 definitely had a great storyline with emotional moments.
No, most of the writers don’t give a fuck about offending…it’s art they just don’t lol that’s not how it works. Offend new players with what??
The characters is what made me love the saint row series actually felt like everyone is friends with each other as they shit talk each other, removing that and replacing the old Character is a major downfall for me
I was playing since Saints row 2 and I loved how insane the story got (yes even SR4 and all the alien stuff) it was a huge way of saying "we are NOT a GTA clone" but hearing how everything just went downhill is just sad. I trust Charlie's opinion and it does look and sound bad.
Loved sr4 😂 just a mindless dumb funny game that you’d have a blast with especially with a friend, loved the story to for some reason 👴🏿🕶🤏🏿
@@GeorgeFloyd-iw8vn being absolutely OP was pretty fun
Right? This is what Saints Row had over Grand Theft Auto: the true freedom to be totally unapologetic and truly satirical in its references to popular culture and the state of the world during its time. It was always a satirical parody of the times, not ever a "gangster simulation". Even GTA comes nowhere close to being a gangster sim. For those who expected it to be, you have Mafia and The Godfather to experience true organised crime in all of its video game glory.
The reboot is satirical, absolutely, and it does make fun little jokes when it's being self-aware. However, it's too safe. Saints Row is no longer unapologetic (they abbreviated Freckle Bitch's diner and renamed Rim Jobs to Jim Rob's, like bruh) which is where Volition lost me.
@PissedPajamas The man whose video you're watching
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This game made 3 and 4 look like a masterpiece
It actually reminded me of how much more fun SR4 was even though it was so far off from a Saints game
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4 is fucking dog shut
Damn this game makes cyperbunk look like a polished game.
2042 is better
You ain’t finished the video yet…
I know you're joking, but cyberpunk was no exaggeration 3 times as buggy
Isn't it literally Polish game?
@@James-dm8cx and somehow still a better game
I really hate that a lot of companies are going in the direction of giving enemies health bars, even when it's completely unnecessary.
The part where the saints said "It's rowing time" and then crossed a river, was my favourite
No one laughed
@@kagemarushun7378 no one cares
@@kagemarushun7378 I did.
About as funny as the dumb Morbius meme that this is clearly using as a template lmao. Apparently we’re still not quite past that retarded meme.
@@kagemarushun7378 i laughed.
Watching Saints Row go from crazy open world, with sup par gameplay, but absolutely amazing missions, good story with great characters and silly activities to this is just depressing.
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I think the worst thing about this is the gameplay, not only is it as ancient as fossils its just straight up a click and shoot game. Ive seen roblox games have more advanced third person shooting mechanics, and more fun gameplay thwn this bullet sponge nerf war mess.
Good thing we have the Moist meter otherwise I would have had to play it. Imagine a world without the moist meter where bad games would be considered good. Thank you charlie for everything you do for gamers. We salute you. I would have never known this game was bad unless I had the meter. You still have yet to do a Moist Meter for Mr.Krabs speedrun.
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We all thank Charlie for his service.
There’s like 1000 reviews of this game and they all say it’s trash though?
Its noit always good because i trusted him with ff7 remake. He gave it a 85/100 and i wa crying out of boredom and completed the story only becaue i felt bad i paid money for it.
I don’t think bad games would be considered good 😂we just wouldn't know how bad it is until we play it
"it look like the game came out in 2006"
my brother, the first saints row came out in 2006 and it has more content than whatever this shit is
This game was so bad that it brought back monotone cr1tikal from 7 years ago
It’s the fact that the community tried to tell them this was a mistake when it was announced, and they thought WE were wrong…
Rightt instead of making this a game fanz want they choose to kill the seriez off with cringey hipsterz I guarantee if they kept the same comdey an seriousness of saintz row 2 it wouldnt have went this route
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