Man, this guy is awesome. You can just tell that he’s competent and a decent person. I’m sick of working with a holes .I’m having him drop in a Texas Speed coyote short block.
See that's why I watch your videos because you make sense and you are not out to blow up your awesome WEBSTER.Thanx for the videos and keeping me informed.
@@BrenspeedEngineering I agree. And I’ve been to power by the hour, rare fab, and Lujuan Motorsports. Which shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as PBH and Rare Fab.
Gen 1 2014 Track Pack Coyote here.. getting a Whipple 3.0.. Question 1: Do you think with a 7K Rev limiter I'd ever blow the block w/o Rods Pistons etc? Isn't it RPM that throws the rods? Might go small pulley, but keep Revs down.. that huge instant Torque off idle is the thrill.. winding high not so much. I could throw in a set of rods pistons easily with just a re-hone.. block only has 20K miles, but why? Gen 1 ain't that bad either. Question 2: I have a 2014 Track Pack with the Torsen and 3.73.. The 3.73 has to go... 1st gear is practically useless.. Which you think for rear: 3.50, 3,30 or 3.15 ish? 2nd gear should be a thrill... Got the other issues fixed, mirror vibe (One Piece aluminum driveshaft) and 2nd gear lockout (Clutch and Shifter upgrades). Question 3: There was always some mystery of what 2013/14 Boss 302 engine part's ford put in the Track Pack engine block. I've heard the 5W50 Oil Cap and the piston rings. Conspiracy Theorists(!) would dream maybe Boss 302 second grade Rods, valve springs, Pistons, Crank? Oil Squirters or Not?
I do not think 7k is an issue with billet oil pump gears but power (boost) plays a larger roll in this than RPM alone. My preference is a 3.55 gear on the manual I do not believe your track pack block is any different than a normal GT. Ford typically suggests 5W50 for performance (spirited driving) situations and all supercharged applications as well.
Just catching up on my videos, here is my build so far with new built engine.....●PORTED Cobra Jet intake Manifold ●VMP twin 67 TB ●PMAS cold air ●Lu47 injectors ●BBK Long tube headers ●BBK offroad Xpipe (no Catts) on this car ● Extreme Stop cross drilled and slotted rotors ●Extreme Stop carbon graphite pads ●Russle steel braded brake lines ●Ford Motorcraft dot 5.1 brake fluid ●JLT catch can ●Barton hybrid 3 shifter- trans mounted ●Ford Racing aluminum driveshaft ●JMS fuel pump voltage booster only 5volts over stock settings ●AMP Stage - 3 BUILT MT82 transmission ●Ford Racing roller pilot bearing ●BMR Adjustable Uper Rear control arm W/spherical fittings ●(All MacLeod) ○Street extream clutch-26 Spline, ○race spec flywheel, ○hydraulic throw out bearing, ○steel braded clutch line. Changing to ALL MANTIC after motor is droped in....331 factory gears. 《Old Motor》 dynoed at (432 on 91), (450 on E54), (460 on E85) all to the rear wheel ....new motor....... ●2012 coyote 5.0 block compression decked, ●Boss 302 crank, ●Manley forged 43-40 H-beam rods, ●Mahle forged Cobrajet pistons, all forged rotating assembly and ballenced ●Boss 302R heads NOT Boss 302 heads, ●Comp stage 3 NA cams, ●Ford performance timing components, ●Ford performance Cobrajet oil pump. ●MSD Blaster,coil packs ●NGK iridium plugs, From 11 to 1 to12.5 to 1.....so far Dynoed on a Mustang Dyno ,RWHP @ 503 /Torque @ 397, 4 days later on a Dynojet RWHP @ 508 /Torque 394
I love this project! High mileage, modified and raced prove the reliability. I would love to build a ‘13-‘14 like this and daily it, even in winter. The Vortech (and Blizzaks) should make it livable in the snow since it wouldn’t hit as hard down low like a PD blower.
So is there not much to be gained by changing the camshaft on these Coyotes? I love the sound of those Detroit Camshafts on the 3V Mustangs. Is it possible to get that same sound with a coyote?
Sorry no as it was sold after new engine and last we heard has had like 3 owners and each changed the car up a bit. We did hear the 1st person that bought it from us went 9's in the quarter. So no idea what is up with it as of today or what is even on it. No idea if more parts were added or if some were removed.
My gen 2 motor has low compression on cylinder 5. Going to rebuilt short block , I don't have big budget but going with forged pistons upgrade ringlands and reusing the rods and minor head porting with valve train work. What are your thoughts.
My thoughts are that is a lot of work to not go ahead and upgrade the rods and rod bolts. Your crank is fine. Do billet oil pump gears while it is apart. That will be a nice combo good luck!
Whats up with this car? I have a rods/piston 14 w/ JTB 15%, 3.0 that makes 19psi and only runs 6 sec 60-130 times. I would love to see what this car does to compare. I am changing out the vortech intercooler to see if that helps.
I believe the short block is around $7000, then you have all your things like I would do a new front drive kit, rebuild or port cylinder heads, build the short block into the long block and labor to install it. Install price can be found by emailing quote@brenspeed.com
@@BrenspeedEngineering here's some food for thought : My last engine builder is a 18yr Roush engine builder, also did the Nascar circuit for awhile. Anyways he checked all my brand new comp valve springs and one spring was WAY off. Never seen anyone do that before. Glad he did. Makes me wonder about past engine strangeness lol.
We can build them for install they are not for mail order anymore so if you want to come in for an install it can be done. That is why it is marked out of stock so you can't order it online to be shipped. quote@brenspeed.com for install price.
Soo.... my grandmas 06 GT has an automatic. With original 85,000. But, the transmission is going out. And I hear the automatics are shit! The car is my grandmas. And she is 73 years old. And still drives stick. But, I’m sure she’d want to keep it auto. Should we replace it with a new auto. Or is there a better automatic transmission option for the 05-09?
If the car is stock, or even has bolt ons really the 5R55 is fine. They typically break at high HP not low. Like any automatic, they can have random problems over time. If you want something better than stock check out this one. www.brenspeed.com/571100.html
@@BrenspeedEngineering dang, I wish I had gotten the notification for your comment 2 years ago. But, update time. The stock oem transmission only needed the pan to be dropped and a new filter. We have since put on 17,000 plus miles. 3 months ago we hit 100,000 miles. But now we are at 102,000.
@@hectorsalamanca6734 if you think that's bad ass. She also has a 1967 Ford mustang coupe all original except the wheels, hood, front seats and paint. Back in the 90's she got chrome wheels, GT hood, and bucket racing seats.
Ended up selling the car to somebody local. They are installing a return style fuel system then will be hitting the track at high boost and MS109 race fuel. We will likely update when that happens.
Well maybe, but clearly stronger parts are designed for more strength than weaker ones. BUT, yes in racing I agree anything can happen I have seen crazy stuff over my life. I remember 20 years ago I bought a pair of race axles and they broke on the first pass. Called the manufacturer and they said they did not go through heat treating. Now that was a long time ago, but proves crazy stuff can happen. THANKS for watching!
Weak ass piston rods??? Homeboy, gen 2 and 3 coyotes are making 1000+hp on factory sealed engine on the norm while being daily driven and ran hard on the streets. What the hell are you taking about?? The fastest "factory sealed," coyote ran 7.9. Show me a single LS running anything lower than a 9 sec quarter on a sealed factory motor. No head, cam, or intake work..... FACTORY SEALED motor.
I like the way you make reliability a priority and I appreciate your tech support. Thanks.
Great thanks Joe!
@@BrenspeedEngineering so is the Webster better than forged gen2 coyote
Man, this guy is awesome. You can just tell that he’s competent and a decent person. I’m sick of working with a holes .I’m having him drop in a Texas Speed coyote short block.
Thanks for the comment and watching!
See that's why I watch your videos because you make sense and you are not out to blow up your awesome WEBSTER.Thanx for the videos and keeping me informed.
And thank you for watching!
When i get the money for the built motor i want or any thing for that matter Brenspeed is the first place ill be going. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks Austin!
@@BrenspeedEngineering I agree. And I’ve been to power by the hour, rare fab, and Lujuan Motorsports. Which shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as PBH and Rare Fab.
Thanks for showing the sleeves at the end
Gen 1 2014 Track Pack Coyote here.. getting a Whipple 3.0..
Question 1: Do you think with a 7K Rev limiter I'd ever blow the block w/o Rods Pistons etc? Isn't it RPM that throws the rods? Might go small pulley, but keep Revs down.. that huge instant Torque off idle is the thrill.. winding high not so much. I could throw in a set of rods pistons easily with just a re-hone.. block only has 20K miles, but why? Gen 1 ain't that bad either.
Question 2: I have a 2014 Track Pack with the Torsen and 3.73.. The 3.73 has to go... 1st gear is practically useless.. Which you think for rear: 3.50, 3,30 or 3.15 ish? 2nd gear should be a thrill... Got the other issues fixed, mirror vibe (One Piece aluminum driveshaft) and 2nd gear lockout (Clutch and Shifter upgrades).
Question 3: There was always some mystery of what 2013/14 Boss 302 engine part's ford put in the Track Pack engine block. I've heard the 5W50 Oil Cap and the piston rings. Conspiracy Theorists(!) would dream maybe Boss 302 second grade Rods, valve springs, Pistons, Crank? Oil Squirters or Not?
I do not think 7k is an issue with billet oil pump gears but power (boost) plays a larger roll in this than RPM alone.
My preference is a 3.55 gear on the manual
I do not believe your track pack block is any different than a normal GT. Ford typically suggests 5W50 for performance (spirited driving) situations and all supercharged applications as well.
i need this exact set up for my 2011 Coyote. Stock block, good rods, pistons, hardware. and add a blower :) I will be calling you.
Ben
Sounds great!
Just catching up on my videos, here is my build so far with new built engine.....●PORTED Cobra Jet intake Manifold ●VMP twin 67 TB ●PMAS cold air ●Lu47 injectors ●BBK Long tube headers ●BBK offroad Xpipe (no Catts) on this car ● Extreme Stop cross drilled and slotted rotors ●Extreme Stop carbon graphite pads ●Russle steel braded brake lines ●Ford Motorcraft dot 5.1 brake fluid ●JLT catch can ●Barton hybrid 3 shifter- trans mounted ●Ford Racing aluminum driveshaft ●JMS fuel pump voltage booster only 5volts over stock settings ●AMP Stage - 3 BUILT MT82 transmission ●Ford Racing roller pilot bearing ●BMR Adjustable Uper Rear control arm W/spherical fittings ●(All MacLeod) ○Street extream clutch-26 Spline, ○race spec flywheel, ○hydraulic throw out bearing, ○steel braded clutch line. Changing to ALL MANTIC after motor is droped in....331 factory gears. 《Old Motor》 dynoed at (432 on 91), (450 on E54), (460 on E85) all to the rear wheel ....new motor.......
●2012 coyote 5.0 block compression decked, ●Boss 302 crank, ●Manley forged 43-40 H-beam rods, ●Mahle forged Cobrajet pistons, all forged rotating assembly and ballenced ●Boss 302R heads NOT Boss 302 heads, ●Comp stage 3 NA cams, ●Ford performance timing components, ●Ford performance Cobrajet oil pump. ●MSD Blaster,coil packs ●NGK iridium plugs, From 11 to 1 to12.5 to 1.....so far Dynoed on a Mustang Dyno ,RWHP @ 503 /Torque @ 397, 4 days later on a Dynojet RWHP @ 508 /Torque 394
Thanx
For the coyote durability video.
Also not wasting money and blowing everything up. Fan in Texas.
No Prob thanks Troy.
I love this project! High mileage, modified and raced prove the reliability. I would love to build a ‘13-‘14 like this and daily it, even in winter. The Vortech (and Blizzaks) should make it livable in the snow since it wouldn’t hit as hard down low like a PD blower.
So I’m not the only crazy person to think of this, haha. Thanks for the Nokian recommendation.
I love daily drivers. Thanks!
So is there not much to be gained by changing the camshaft on these Coyotes? I love the sound of those Detroit Camshafts on the 3V Mustangs. Is it possible to get that same sound with a coyote?
thanks for the video and advice.......
No worries! Thanks for watching!
Anyway I could get some info on this car after the new engine?
Sorry no as it was sold after new engine and last we heard has had like 3 owners and each changed the car up a bit. We did hear the 1st person that bought it from us went 9's in the quarter. So no idea what is up with it as of today or what is even on it. No idea if more parts were added or if some were removed.
Thanks for the reply
How did the rod bearings look when it was tore down?
Hi we did not tear down the engine is likely going back int he car some day when I am done with it.
I have a 2014 5.0 with a 2.9 Whipple started over heating and building my motor what should I expect?
That question is incredibly vague. Fuel, boost, trans, etc... all play a roll. So the best I can say is I would expect a bad ass car lol.
Can you swap gen 3 heads onto a early gen 1 coyote from 2012 and below with 12mm headstuds?
I have a coyote with 26k miles, some old dudes light duty farm truck lol. Was in barn stored.
My gen 2 motor has low compression on cylinder 5. Going to rebuilt short block , I don't have big budget but going with forged pistons upgrade ringlands and reusing the rods and minor head porting with valve train work. What are your thoughts.
My thoughts are that is a lot of work to not go ahead and upgrade the rods and rod bolts. Your crank is fine. Do billet oil pump gears while it is apart. That will be a nice combo good luck!
It’s the coyote that you showed in the room a gen 1 or 2?
Gen 1
How much it cost the parts and whats the compression?
Video on the high mileage motor tare down?
I am not tearing it down. I will likely put it back in when I am done with the project.
Brenspeed the transmission the original? The converter and JMS launch max didn’t hurt it?
Will that engine work with the 2018 10 speed auto transmission ? Thanks
Whats up with this car? I have a rods/piston 14 w/ JTB 15%, 3.0 that makes 19psi and only runs 6 sec 60-130 times. I would love to see what this car does to compare. I am changing out the vortech intercooler to see if that helps.
Its been stored for a year. Never had time to take it back out. Likely selling it soon to start a new project.
I have a 2011 Mustang GT that only has 20,400 miles on it. Thinking of trading it?
Sounds like a sweet ride!
How much for this install?
I believe the short block is around $7000, then you have all your things like I would do a new front drive kit, rebuild or port cylinder heads, build the short block into the long block and labor to install it. Install price can be found by emailing quote@brenspeed.com
Are those stock heads on the new engine?
Yes just upgraded valve springs.
@@BrenspeedEngineering here's some food for thought : My last engine builder is a 18yr Roush engine builder, also did the Nascar circuit for awhile. Anyways he checked all my brand new comp valve springs and one spring was WAY off. Never seen anyone do that before. Glad he did. Makes me wonder about past engine strangeness lol.
You say that the Manley assembly is lighter. Prove it because I have weight them both and Manley is heavier
Sleeved 5.0 forged internals gen 2 head ported bigger fuel system wimpy 3 1/4 pulley tko 600 plug and play stand alone computer fun car
I have 95k miles on my 14GT is that to many miles to supercharge it now???
No I boosted mine at 165,000 miles.
Website says "Webster" out of stock
We can build them for install they are not for mail order anymore so if you want to come in for an install it can be done. That is why it is marked out of stock so you can't order it online to be shipped. quote@brenspeed.com for install price.
Soo.... my grandmas 06 GT has an automatic. With original 85,000. But, the transmission is going out. And I hear the automatics are shit! The car is my grandmas. And she is 73 years old. And still drives stick. But, I’m sure she’d want to keep it auto. Should we replace it with a new auto. Or is there a better automatic transmission option for the 05-09?
If the car is stock, or even has bolt ons really the 5R55 is fine. They typically break at high HP not low. Like any automatic, they can have random problems over time. If you want something better than stock check out this one. www.brenspeed.com/571100.html
Are we not gonna comment on how badass this dudes grandma is.
@@BrenspeedEngineering dang, I wish I had gotten the notification for your comment 2 years ago. But, update time. The stock oem transmission only needed the pan to be dropped and a new filter. We have since put on 17,000 plus miles. 3 months ago we hit 100,000 miles. But now we are at 102,000.
@@hectorsalamanca6734 if you think that's bad ass. She also has a 1967 Ford mustang coupe all original except the wheels, hood, front seats and paint. Back in the 90's she got chrome wheels, GT hood, and bucket racing seats.
How many miles does it have now
We sold the car but last we heard over 140k and running 9.70 driving 2 hours to the track.
When will the used coyote motors drop to $500-750 like the ls motors 😖😖😖😖
WHOA! That will be a while lol.
Updates?
Ended up selling the car to somebody local. They are installing a return style fuel system then will be hitting the track at high boost and MS109 race fuel. We will likely update when that happens.
How did that go ? I’m thinking of getting this for my Mustang
Anything can happen built engine or not
Well maybe, but clearly stronger parts are designed for more strength than weaker ones. BUT, yes in racing I agree anything can happen I have seen crazy stuff over my life. I remember 20 years ago I bought a pair of race axles and they broke on the first pass. Called the manufacturer and they said they did not go through heat treating. Now that was a long time ago, but proves crazy stuff can happen. THANKS for watching!
Love this
THANKS for watching.
Make me a deal on that old coyote?
Sorry not selling that engine. Thanks for watching!
Zander13 didn't watch this video
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But thank you for watching!! lol.
@@BrenspeedEngineering my pleasure pro dyno and kurgan has built mine . I run 11.60s and I know there is much more left. I wish you guys were closer.
Damn my 2012 5.0 has 190k
WHOA! Thats awesome. Thanks for watching!
Why the Hell does Ford allow people to drive off with those weak ass piston rods?
Thanks for watching!
Weak ass piston rods??? Homeboy, gen 2 and 3 coyotes are making 1000+hp on factory sealed engine on the norm while being daily driven and ran hard on the streets. What the hell are you taking about?? The fastest "factory sealed," coyote ran 7.9. Show me a single LS running anything lower than a 9 sec quarter on a sealed factory motor. No head, cam, or intake work..... FACTORY SEALED motor.
@@mytruthslays1303 im talking bout the gen 1 and 3v homeboy with their weak ass rods. Pay attention son!