Geologist Reviews Ammonite (2020 Film) || Mary Anning and Charlotte Murchison Deserve More
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Torrens, H.. “Mary Anning (1799-1847) of Lyme; ‘the greatest fossilist the world ever knew’.” The British Journal for the History of Science 28 (1995): 257-284.
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So many women have been elided from history purely on the basis of their gender and denied recognition of their discoveries and work. I'm glad that Mary Anning is getting at least a bit of recognition now.
Extra History on TH-cam has several historical accounts of women. Good stuff.
I love reading the dedications in books written by male academics in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the number of men thanking their wives for basically doing all the work is spectacular!
In Buckland's papers, he specifically thanks Mary Anning for her contributions. Conybeare, on the other hand, leaves her out.
I see your point that although the love story between Mary and Charlotte is lovely, I don't see why the film couldn't explore the contribution that Charlotte made to geology. Facts show her to be the driving force behind her husband's success. Charlotte was a scientist in her own right as was Mary, but Mary had two crushing social systems to grapple with: gender and class roles. Thank you for the fascinating video. Your videos are my latest addiction. Scrolling up to buy a "ko-fi."
Thank you so very much!!!
So glad you’re trying to show the influence of female geologists in the past! My favorite geology-adjacent lady of the 19th century is Orra White Hitchcock, wife of Edward Hitchcock, a great illustrator of geologic features. Her illustrations were mainly used for her husband’s classes at Amherst College.
Oh, I will have to do some research on her!! Thank you for sharing!
I am currently reading "Ravished" by Amanda Quick, a Regency era romance in which the heroine is an avid fossil collector in the caverns of the Dover cliffs. Her searches for fossils in the strata of the caverns plays a prominent role in the story line. She also expresses a healthy distrust of the honor and scruples of other (male) fossil collectors. It's an interesting juxtaposition to be reading this novel in the same day that I chose to watch this episode! Thanks for the elucidation!
Thank you for making this video! I wanted to leave a comment when you first posted this video, but I couldn't find the words until I was listening to a recent episode of the Bechdel Cast podcast and they mentioned how there are now so many melancholy period movies about a forbidden relationship between white women that never end with them happy together. I was apprehensive of the premise because it felt like the creative team, with a man writer/director, thought that a story about women with significant contributions to science was too boring and wanted to spice it up by making up the story about a relationship between two that had really existed, and that they weren't well known enough for anyone to care about who they really were.
If they wanted to make a movie about a historical lesbian woman paleontologist, Annie Alexander would maybe have been a better subject. She founded the University of California Museum of Paleontology and Museum of Vertebrate Zoology, and was the reason why her male colleagues even had funding to do their work in the first place (she was an heiress and put her money towards research and expeditions). She often refused recognition for her work, which people suspect now was to not attract public attention to herself so she could peacefully continue her long and happy relationship with her partner, Louise Kellogg. They even did fieldwork together.
I like your point! Men don’t have to have doomed romances to be considered deserving of a biopic, sigh
the writer/director a queer working class man wanted to the slim canon of invisible lesbians throughout history and did so w sensitivity. you arent invisible which is why you cant understand it.
It seems like they watered down the story of a great Paleontologist and watered it down with an ahistorical lesbian love story. It's not that a lesbian love story is bad, but it's that it's ahistorical. There is way too much ahistorical stuff in hollywood, that's my problem with it.
I disagree though, Mary Anning is very legendary. I also think the class dynamic is understated, that not only was she a woman, but that she was a poor woman, that's two strikes against someone back then.
This is extremely cool I want an actual biopic now
There is a twenty minute movie on her in this playlist on Paleontology I've been making, it's really good
th-cam.com/play/PLgRoK-eyLjomaNEGNHjb1r8YWbUzVIskd.html
I don’t know about anyone, but for me this is a great film, a great job by Kate. And in general, all the works of Kate Winslet are worthy of high praise.
13:47 Yeah, not something you would think a lesbian would say. Mary Anning's story was interesting enough without the need to add a bogus love story on top of it. Plus, if you wanted to make a movie about a gay paleontologist, Franz Nopcsa would have been a viable choice, as he led an interesting life.
Seems more like a sister wives situation than anything 😊 maybe it was a throuple
Couldn't agree more , I myself since 5 years old have had an interest in fossils , when I tell people of my hobby I do get funny looks .
Thanks for your brilliant trove of knowledge. And I wouldn't have stumbled upon it if not for the movie.
Many thanks for this fact based history ode such a fascinating scientist. I think future historical dramas about famous men should automatically default to a stance that women always contributed substantially to their endeavors. It’s societal conventions that has written them out, not a lack of intellectual contribution🌊🌊🏄♀️🏄♂️
I enjoyed the added history and information about geology on top of the review of the movie. I had no idea Charlotte was a decade older than Mary. I thought it was the opposite.
Exactly! I wouldn't say that Mary Anning's sexuality was ambiguous though. Rather it is simply unknown. Mary Anning and Charlotte Murchison had a paleontological relationship. Anything else is pure supposition. Why on earth choose these two women for a portrayal that would have been libellous if it were produced while they were alive. Either make a film about fictitious characters, or make a film about the actual facts of their lives, which were surely interesting enough to make a very interesting film about.
Thank you for this video! Glad to learn so much about these incredible scientists who never got their due.
Thank you for watching!
this is great ! i knew very little to nothing about geology and it made me want to research more about these women thank you :)
Thank you for watching!!
Mary Anning was more technically Paleontology, she's considered the mother of Paleontology.
Here is a playlist Im making on Geology and Paleontology related videos. It's way more significant than just Dinosaurs and Rocks (me personally I'm into the early Tetrapods and Stegocephalians and the origin of limbs)
th-cam.com/play/PLgRoK-eyLjomaNEGNHjb1r8YWbUzVIskd.html
There seems to be a lot of women in Paleontology. I'd check out the movie 'Dinosaur 13' also, the T Rex 'Sue' was named after a female paleontologist, one who discovered the fossil.
Excelente material de las cartas de época. Gracias por compartir
I think once lockdown is over and we can travel from Wales to England again, I'll take a trip to Lyme again. I have know a little about Mary Anning for a long time but know I want to know more about her and the other ladies who were interested in the fossils. So thank you.
Wonderful!!
Totally delightful, informative and informed and presented in clear and engaging manner. Many thanks for accompanying my crochet efforts today, I feel enlightened and refreshed!
About mary anning I recommend also "remarkable creatures" by tracy chevalier.
I happened upon this channel. I'm glad I did. There's historical geology? That is connected to relationships, gender, and clothes? Awesome.
I read a fictionalized version of Mary's life in Jennifer Chevalier's book Beautiful Creatures. I look forward to watching this movie to see how it looks at her life.
I honestly just wanted to see the story about Mary’s work. As a woman working as a geologist in the Victorian era was a strong enough storyline. Why did they have to reduce this important historical contribution down to soft core porn?! So disappointing.
Yes exactly, they have no evidence either.
I'm into later Paleozoic and Mesozoic stuff but stuck in Ordovician land of southern Missouri
They didn't include her dog.
Thanks for the review, I hadn't heard of the movie. Extra History channel did a video on Mary Anning.
Historical geology? Cool! My first job at 14 was at a lapidairy cutting cabachons. Any tips for recognising ancient forts in forests? I live in an area with several iron age forts, but it's hard to decipher what is natural geology and what is human alterations.
I talk a lot about lapidaries in the Gemstones course I teach! I’m not sure about forts vs natural formations unless I can dig them up, which of course, is not a good idea. I’ve spent a lot of time studying natural chalk formations vs chalk carvings, I need to look more into forts!
Oh I'm kind of ashamed I first knew of Many Anning because of a Tessa Dare Historical Romance 😅 ("A week to be wicked", if you feel inclined to romance in that setting). Heroine is also into geology and discovers an iguanodon footprint✌️.
Oh, interesting! I might have to read that 😆
How wrong it is to portray Mary Anning as Mr Lee has done with sex scenes far beyond the point necessary to portray the drama of two people's lives. Even if it was true that she had such a relationship but from what I've read there is no evidence that she had such a relationship. Mary Anning is a well respected lady of Lyme Regis and this film has done her a great disservice. I can't understand why Ms Kate Winslet would also take the part in the way that she did. Jack would be most upset with you.
I believe duchess Georgiana Cavendish (from the film the duchess) studied geology in later life
Oh!! Thank you, I will definitely look into that!
my source is the book that the film was based on. It has excellent references so you should find lots of good info
A great video and highly educational. However, the preoccupation of the film and your video with speculation on Anning's sexuality seems to me to be a rather misogynist pandering to modern gender identity issues. Where is the microscopic forensic examination of the sexuality of the male geoscientists of the time? The focus on any examination of the scientific achievements of Mary Anning and other women active in the sciences of that era should be on the development of their minds and their contributions to science.
By the way don't you mean Palaeontology i've never heard of her contributing to Geology i mean the sciences overlap in some areas but as far as i'm aware she contributed most to Palaeontology also if you teach Geology why teach about prehistoric animals.
Historical geology is intricately related to paleontology. You can’t separate the two.
@@AJaneiteSews I suppose that the sciences do overlap in the study of fossild but there is a lot more to Palaeontology than that.
There was a short film about her on TH-cam somewhere that wasn’t bad .
I’ll look for it!
@@AJaneiteSews its on Omeleto and yes its very good.
Interesting but it sucks.:/ but yes history is nice and the way you presented the information was good!