Jamaicans don't consider themselves Africans BUT WHY?| Ep. 163
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Please say some Jamaicans. Many Jamaicans, including myself, consider themselves Africans first. 🇯🇲
Thanks ❤
Thats right, I must conclude These people have no idea what they are talking about.
I don't know how they collect data but I don't know of people who believe they are not in Jamaica unless they are uneducated and perhaps sometimes have a very poor mentality. That woman is just schisms.
Then they me which African country you're from because last I checked Jamaica isn't in Africa
True. He can't say everyone. So say some. While others are AFRICAN.
We are of African descent, but we are not Africans in the sense that we weren't born on the continent, we don't speak any African languages, we don't belong to any specific African ethnic groups because our ancestors came from various groups. We live in a nation outside of Africa and we have our own culture that's a blend of our African elements, European and to some degree native. There's nothing wrong with that. We are not less than or damaged goods. We forget that there are people in Africa that are so mentally colonized they reject much of their traditional cultures.
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I agree
As on the continent, different ethnic groups came together to form new ethnic groups, African Jamaicans are another African ethnicity. The Jamaican language is an African Caribbean language. You don't have to be born on the continent when what makes you African is your genotype, phenotype, how you move, speak, dance, live, love. Africa was born in you.
@@cultureducation Your definitions don't apply across the board though. Phenotypes range within many families from very light to very dark. I'm not an African. I'm of African descent. It's part of us for sure, but we have a different culture. It has a lot of African influence, but there's also a lot of differences. This is who we are and we don't need to feel any type of way because of it. I'm Jamaican, first off. I hail my African ancestry, but I know I'm not exactly the same nor do I try to be. I don't have to. I have a culture and I love it.
@@TRUTHTEACHER2007 do you believe there's a continental wide culture that all Africans share that would exclude the Africans who were stolen? Tell me what that is.
A who tell yu dat!! We are proud African 👏🏼. One love Jamaica 🇯🇲
If you is a Chinese Jamaican this conversation is nor for you.
Ah Jamaican here, and proud to be an AFRICAN Jamaican. That person speaking doesn't speak for all of Jamaican with respects🙏🏽 we love our roots!
You're CARIBBEAN Jamaican 👍🏽
@@AfricanMaverick maybe you, but iam African Caribbean 🤣
Thank you, I caught this video late, glad you were here correcting error.
@Lars-A Happy to hear you’re view brother ❤❤. We’re all one people’s. Love from Africa
Jamaica is an extension of Africa just like Haiti and other dominant black islands.
Most of you look down on us but Haitians are siblings , they are telling me that all these island look down on them . Because they are more African .
No jamaica is country not island fake history the whites give you
@@user-bz7vt6gm6o Who is most of you?...Can you be a bit more specific...Who looks down on who...? I hate this generalisation that some of us make about each other, because I am sure you have relatives who look down on you as well 😂😂😂.
Jamaica, Haiti and other dominant black islands is a extension of America. Africa is just Africa and have nothing to do with this. Thank You!
As an African I somewhat get it though. Jamaicans may have African ancestry but they are not African, they are Jamaican so of course they are going to identify with Jamaica over Africa because that’s what’s they know and it’s where they came from but having said that, *some* of them want nothing to do with being African out of underlying self hatred. Some Jamaicans would get *really* offended if you called them African. I remember in the 90s in school *some* Jamaicans would diss Africans (and vice versa) yet some of them had more African features than me 🤦🏿♂️ Them same types would embrace having European & Indian DNA over having African DNA. So there is a subconscious ignorant mindset towards Africans derived from slavery & brainwashing
I'm 🇯🇲 born in UK but my roots are African Ghanaian ✊🏾 I am African that's where I'm saving up to move to Africa✊🏾 🖤💯
🤔 how did you get to that conclusion did you do a dna test
@@lieutenantcolombo1758 what sort of comment is this?
@@rafaelw8115Why can’t the young Africans build Africa ?
@@rafaelw8115 Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that you said Africans on the continent we’re better then the diaspora. I said to you why don’t the young Africans on the continent build Africa instead of the diaspora.
@@josweetlove1537happen to be born in Jamaica 🇯🇲 not by choice but by the west greediness i mon claims all of africa 🌍 😊
As a Jamaican, I feel comfortable in saying that Jamaican know that they are genetically African but enthusiastically/ culturally they are not; there are times when black in the diaspora are reminded by African from the continent’s of this.
You can say that about any colonized African anywhere in the African world, including continental Africans from metropoles that are enthusiastically into Western culture and that's what they practice, not African Culture.
@@cultureducation what is African culture?
@@beatrice123ful African culture is the commonalities you find across African cultures of the thousands of Black/African ethnic groups found throughout the African world. Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop, the Senegalese scientist and Africana scholar, wrote about it many years ago in his highly regarded book, The Cultural Unity of Black Africa. It is those commonalities that make an overarching African culture.
I am an African American and I went to Montego Bay, and stayed in a Black owned bed and breakfast. The Jamaican Brothers and sisters that I met were really nice, I also loved that they enjoyed life. Everyday there was a music party, big speakers in the middle of the grass and every one dancing and having fun, and the food!!!!! reminded me of our soul food!!! Callaloo, brown stew chicken, Kingfish, jerk chicken,ackee and Plantain!!!! Oh my God!!! The thing I see about all of us, continental and diasporan Africans, is that we know how to have fun!!!!!
This is the best thing all Black travelers should do, support our own establishments and not the racist resorts run by whites and others that exclude Black/African Jamaicans on the island! Medase (thank you) my brother or sister!
Im a black American from charleston, SC and we are geechee/gullah people. As gullah/geechee ppl its important for us to hold on to our African roots. Now because of social media and TH-cam i look at a lot of African content and all i see is us in them. We are definitely the same people. I think it's important for us to reconnect to Mama Africa ❤
Gullah/Geechee here🤘🏽
🖤🩵💚💛
I noticed Gullah/geechee is different from other Black folks in America.
@brotherkareem181 yes. People that's not familiar with us when they hear us they think we are from the Caribbean or Africa. We all the same people💪🏿💪🏿
@@Gullah84 I don’t think we all the same. The Gullah/Geechee & the creole’s are different ethnic groups from the rest of the Black Americans.
@brotherkareem181 we are all of African descent no matter our differences.
Now you are just reachiing for content, Im a jamaican here on the island and we consider ourselves as africans. Im even planning to go there and spend some time
But u didn’t watch the video you are reaching to make a comment without watching the video smh
I am Jamaican and I know many even in my family that want nothing to do with Africa
Jamaica is an extension of Africa....our bloodline runs deep with each other...So I am with you bro! Love from an African brother!
@@Kenganda fair enough, i just finish
There is a huge African consciousness in the Caribbean. Honestly we don't need everybody
I am a Jamaican born in Kingston, currently married to an African man from the Gambia. Too many of us love Bob Marley, and other artist who sang roots and culture, music and many of loved those vibes around the world and, there’s so many of us in the Caribbean that learned about Africa through them. So that lets you know there is more of us who Love Africa and consider themselves Africans than those who don’t think that way. Do you see how many Jamaican Rastafarians are in Ethiopia or trying to get there. Before you create a podcast to cover a topic like this, please go to Jamaican and do your research first.
As a Jamaican, I know we have Africans ancestry
This is awesome and I've seen how much Gambia loves the African Jamaican culture from language to music!
There is some truth to what she is saying…… but maybe 30 years ago. More and more Jamaicans are owning their Africaness and even moving to the continent.
I am a African Jamaican
There is little truth to the headline; many black Jamaicans, do consider themselves to be African. There are some who hold on to the colonized, brainwashed mode of thought, but overall, most are proud to be associated with Africa.
The majority don’t see themselves as Jamaican I literally come from and live in Jamaica and most of them will say they’re of African decent but not African and even get offend often times if called that
@@squilliamfancyson3333They get offended at being called Jamaican or African?
But they actually aren't African.
JAMAICANS ARE PROUDLY...MADE IN AFRICA...!!!
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT...!!!
but which country
I’m from Jamaica and I’m in shock that these hosts would sit there and comment on a topic that is not only far from the truth, but they’re engaging in discussions they know nothing about and would actually sit there like what they’re saying applies to Jamaican’s who identify as Africans and love Africans, more than any other Caribbean nation. Every year I spend six months in Africa and my husband is from West Africa. For many of us in Jamaica and in the Caribbean from the time we’re born we are told we must go back to Africa. We love Africans, we are Caribbean Africans and if people don’t know that it’s because they practice classicism, or they are completely ignorant. Please stop Promoting foolishness in the African community and then sit there like you’re above us and You have to educate us because we are just stupid people who don’t know who we are, or where we come from. Please don’t make a show that insults our intelligence again, and sacrifice Jamaican‘s doing it. The nerves of these bougie Africans.
Jamaicans are Caribbeans. Africans are Africans.
If there’s a disconnection in the African diaspora, seek the truth by tracing your roots.
@@AfricanMavericksorry you don't determine that
@@uhurachezidek7674 I do. I'll protect Africa from foreigners.
@@AfricanMaverickthat's why I always go with those who believe there Africans those who don't believe they are Africans it's fine let's go with those who want to be on the train
Some Jamaican desent in the West does not think that theyvare Africans. But should you go to Jamaica itself you may find a largly different opinion
The irony you have a Rasta has a thumbnail. That demography knows so much about Africa. One of the most Afrocentric people in the Caribbean.
Did u watch the video 😅
@@Kenganda I did. As a Jamaican this hit home and I appreciate the delicacy with the subject matter and the positive encouragement.
As an African I somewhat get it though. Jamaicans may have African ancestry but they are not African, they are Jamaican so of course they are going to identify with Jamaica over Africa because that’s what’s they know and it’s where they came from but having said that *some* of them want nothing to do with being African out of underlying self hatred. Some Jamaicans would get *really* offended if you called them African. I remember in the 90s in school *some* Jamaicans would diss Africans (and vice versa) yet some of them had more African features than me 🤦🏿♂️ Them same types would embrace having European & Indian DNA over having African DNA. So there is a subconscious ignorant mindset towards Africans derived from slavery & brainwashing
When you where at school, you where a child did you always say or do the right thing..my my do you truly think children are gonna chose some that doesn't look appealing...as stated by the great peter tosh every blackman is an African full stop whether they kno or not...a lion born in the city will always be a lion nothing else...
Love that we as a generation R having these conversations. We have progress, just wait
The Jamaica 🇯🇲 that i born in always see themselves as African in a extremely proud way to this day, Jamaicans love Africa so much that Jamaica 🇯🇲 was the first country in the world to boycott South Africa and speak out extremely loud about President Bota government and the wicked treatment to black South Africans, Nelson Mandela could not wait to visit Jamaica 🇯🇲 after his release from prison Jamaica 🇯🇲 was one of his first country to visit and thank the Jamaican people for their loud voice on what was happening to black South Africans, Jamaica has always been the eyes outside of Africa with great concern about what is happening in Africa, yes we love being Jamaicans but our eyes are always on the mother land Africa ,Jamaica 🇯🇲 is and always been the little piece of Africa outside of Africa ,with a voice for Africa bigger than any other country outside of Africa.
This title is misleading. Caribbeans see themselves as of African heritage. But the fact of the matter is people identify with their nationalities, it's not that deep.
I was born in Jamaica and now living in Canada. I'm an African first. all those countries we ended up in were nothing but POW camps. Some are prettier that others but they are still POW camps.
We must keep pushing forward 💪🏾‼️👍🏽👍🏽
I am Haitian. Often people ask me where in Africa are you from? I tell them I'm Haitian. They look at me like what the heck is the difference. I was married to a Nigerian, he used to say to me: girl, you are African. I correct people not because i don't want to claim Africa. Looking at me you can tell I am african descent but you can't tell I am Haitian. I am well aware of my african culture heritage. I am also proud of my nationality. As screwed up as it may appear, I am not going to deny it and claim another. Although, slavery was a long time ago for us, Haitians still hold a lot of african values, customs, ideology. But, we would never claim to be africans. By the way, didn't Africa deny Haiti entry in AU?
Haitian is not a race or ethnicity . Haitian is a nationality . African is a race of Black people like Black Ethiopian or Black Somali or Black Jamaican or Black Nigerian or Black Brazilian . Different from White Haitian .
True. AU denied Haiti entry into the organization. I feel you on that! Hopefully, some day the will revisit the idea and expand the AU by incorporating such as Haiti to make the organization pan-African. I'm African from the Continent!
@marieguerda8373 Thank you for that info. I didn't know AU didn't allow Haiti into the organization. Shame on AU😢
There are white people who claim Africa, such as the Dutch Boers, so I don't understand Africans on the continent who don't want to be Africans. They are confused and yes Disconnected. Being "Disconnected " is a form of ignorance and Brainwashing! We need to Connect and Shout it Out!!❤
What Happened to Being African and proud? Qaddafi said he was African. Former President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was Nubian. A Nubian is an African. They are all Africans. Be proud of Africa❤❤❤❤❤❤
This video sounds crazy. As a Jamaican myself i only know 1 lost Jamaican who is reaching to identify with Irish ancestry and denounces Africa. Listen to the music, we always talk about mama Africa and know we originate from West Africa, namely Ghana and Nigeria
I'm half Jamican half Grenadian we have formed our own culture and a lot of us are mixed up. I amin predominantly of African decen my Grandmother is Indian and Scottish but was born in the caribbean.
@rafaelw8115 maybe also do some research see where & if some traditions you are used to resemble somethings you see in the many different african cultures of today & the past
So your family could of started off being white or indian b4 crossing over to the black side.
@@user-qx6ko8lz1hnope they were raped
@@rafaelw8115 You Americans still hang onto your racist, eurocentric definitions of race. If Youre mixed race, stop denying your FULL HERITAGE, slavery is over.
One drop rule means black genes are stain on ones blood, hence one drop corrupts other bloodlines and the child assumes the inferio%r parents racial stock. This is what you and other mixed race and mono racial belive.
If you only have 1 african ancestor or are only part african, you cant be JUST African. You're mixed. Stop destroying true africaness
@@rafaelw8115and all those cultures you mentioned are still writing and speaking with an Anglo saxon culture. Sheet we doing it right now.
THROUGH MEDIA YOU CAN CHANGE ANY NARRATIVE
We all know that our problem is the international media But no one on the whole continent is even talking about creating a professional media outlet to change the narrative
Me nah lie i feel disappointed?why cause as a Jamaican myself we own Africa as our mother island than any other diaspora and i say this with a life or death situation. We don't play. Be on a serious the not all of US are like yh am African
Exactly Jamaicans have always claimed their root. Far more than Black Americans, they still have African customs last I heard, still eat African foods just with a twist to it. Hence why Caribbeans are usually easier for Africa to embrace and can adjust to Africa with near enough no problems compared to black Americans.
You guys are out of touch . Go do some research on Jamaica
MAINTAIN is BACK
I immensely share in the yearning for a unified single African Country and I testify to this channel it's going to happen and in "our lifetime." Those "Africans" who currently disassociate themselves from the cause are hereby noted but respected and there'll be referenda in each Country followed by an international treaty before we legally become one. We will force no one to be part of it & a unified Africa must come from one's heart i.e. it must be desired & voted for. It'll be like a marriage with a certicate & treaty. For those who vote to stay out initially, the door must never be closed for them and they must be allowed to join at a future date. We need to learn to live with difference because with a current population of 1.4B + the Carribean & Diaspora and still counting, it's least likely we'll ever desire the same thing at the same time but the love for one another given what we have & continue to suffer will always take precedence over our perceived differences. Thank you for the topic. ❤
Love this 🫶🏽 #onelove
@@363y Much love ❤
Whatever you been smoking. please stop.
@@AfricanMaverick No vision will ever be visable to everyone.
I think the reason a lot of us don't feel connected to the continent is because the continent does not connect to us. If the continent reached out and really had an impact on our lives in the present in a meaningful way, I think we'd be more inclined to identify with the continent.
@@rafaelw8115 Garvey brought Pan-Africanism to America. Late 80s Early 90s Black African Americans popularized Teaching and encouraged African history and Afrocentric thought, dress and Identity. Until Africans decided to remind us of how much we aren't African. We dreamed of going there. We never saw Africa as a "losing team". We just got tired of trying to fit in where we weren't invited.
@@rafaelw8115 Also tribalism is big as hell. You guys would not allow us to prosper in the same manner as we allow y'all to prosper in the Diaspora.
@@rafaelw8115 A good way to prove me wrong is point to the African continent's version of Tariq Nasheed, Dr claud Anderson, Umar Johnson, etc.... You get the picture.. We are ready to come visit once we are properly invited.
@@bagmanejayGarvey did not bring pan-africanism to America it was around before Garvey the first pan-african conference was in London Marcus Garvey was nowhere near
@@marteza654 My point was that we embraced it. Who brought to the U.S.? I thought It was Garvey?
Some Caribbean countries haven't lost all their culture or adopted it to stay with them, and they do have some level consciousness that they are africans.
This is simply an educational question and context. When ppl say African they think it’s like saying Brazilian. Brazil 🇧🇷 is a nation Africa is a continent of racial origins. The first thing they will say is I’m from Jamaica not Africa.
My racial origins are African my nationality is a citizen of the United States of America 🇺🇸 my ethnicity is Amhara and Igbo and got brown skin
MWAMBIE ABADULU HEAD LINE HAI MAKE SENSE, JAMAICANS ARE PROUD AFRICANS.
Black Americans never had the opportunity to deny AFRICA..
Great show. Born in 🇦🇬 Antigua, went to America when I was 10. I didn’t know black people were slaves until i got here. Those ten years was bliss. You were on your own to learn black history at an early age in the Caribbean. My opinion.
I’m sorry but I have to laugh 😂 had to screenshot this comment.😂
This is true. A lot of blacks outside of the USA have no idea there is a slave history in their native country. They’ll tell black Americans they don’t know where they come from 😱😂
I'm confused ... is there a country called "The Caribbean" ? I understand not being Jamaican, but which specfic country/countries is the DJ from?
The Caribbean is a region in North America,even the eastern Caribbean is like it’s own all East Caribbean islands use the same currency
@enosger I understand that. My question is, how can you be from a region without coming from a specific country or a mixture of countries? Just curious.
Shine like a diamond.
Why wouldn't the DJ fully identify himself? The Caribbean is a fairly general area. Now that he isn't Jamaican (which most East Africans know), then a which country he kwom from?
I’m 1/2 Dominican & 1/2 St Kitts & Nevis
@@DjMaintain Thanks. Now I know there's St. Kitts and David.
We are descendants of Africa but some of us also carry indigenous Jamaican genetics, among other ethnic groups, the average Jamaican is 70-90% African. Sadly, some harbor self-hate stemming from the legacy of slavery and ignorance, some bring up the moto out of many one people to include every ethnicity, however it was made by normal manley to represent those tribes affected by slavery in JA, not yts, not chinese. i dont see any African nations bringing up what we went through during slavery, nor do they care. We had to embrace our own path which we've done well as Jamaicans, since we were left by African nations a long time ago. Either way we are one, and i truly love Africa.
MAIN REASON IS that We Don't No How To Play The Media Games
That Jamaican woman in the video was talking a bunch of nonsense. Not because a Jamaican woman is dressed in Rasta gear that means she knows what she is talking about. I responded to her video and told her she was talking nonsense. All of Jamaican black people know that their ancestors are from Africa. We know that the Olmecs left Africa and populated Mexico, the Caribbean and America but the Olmecs came from Africa. So for those people who are saying that black people were in the Americas region before slavery, you are right but the Olmecs came from Africa.
Runoko Rashidi's theory prior to his transition, believed that the Olmec civilization was a Native "American" one that happened to have significant African contributors to their civilization and that's why they were honored with the large African statue heads. There are many other large heads that don't have the African features.
I actually used to live on princess Anne’s drive in Bugolobi 😂
Jamaican was the first country in the world to impose sanctions on Apartheid South Africa we know we are African by race.
Jamaicans that don't consider them selves black is so ridiculous
but Africans should stop caring every body else know that they Africans.
This title is miss leading I don’t like it. Jamaicans do consider ourselves Africans.
Am Grenadian born & am proud of that fact, am also an African am also proud of that fact, big up Africa big up all blackpeopl should be proud to be African aftera after is said an dun we are the first on this planet we African are responsible all the beautiful colours on this planet even the spiteful ones.
Jamaicans know they are African but they are proud of their own country and culture. They have their own language, cuisine, music etc all their own even though has African roots and influence. Caribbeans as a whole have different vibe considering their culture stems from life in an island which is a completely different experience than life in a large continent. They have their sports figures and are a great internally respected culture and country. Just like Nigerians are African but proud Nigerians or Ibo etc first and foremost.
Jamaica is an island. Africa is a continent. What you just said about Jamaica, every country in Africa and specific ethnic group says too. i.e., Kenyans know they are African but they are proud to be Kenyan. Tanzanians know they are African but they are proud to be Tanzanian. Also, there are also African islands like Cabo Verde and Sao Tome. You are African not because you're born on the continent, you are African because it's born in you, your DNA, genetics, culture, how you move, how you talk, etc. That's whether you're an African from Jamaica or an African from Botswana.
The first understanding is Jamaica is not a race . Majority of Jamaicans are Afro carribeans but there are Indian Chinese Portuguese Irish lebenase even German Jamaicans.
But some may not feel African because ethnically they could mixed with indigenous or European through generations which could lead to them not just isolating one thing which is African but also embracing the other side which brings confusion.
No, black Americans are mostly on average 20-25% mixed, but knew we were Africans.
A large number of us are history deniers now. Either we are the original native Americans, or we are the original children of Israel.
European leaders are talking re-colonizing Africa because of its resources and riches. Deniers want no part of the continent.
What you are saying is true, however, what the lady on the video said, is that Indians Jamaicans don’t take offense of being labeled Indians, and that Afro Jamaicans were the one identifying as Jamaicans first. I don’t think it applies to all Jamaicans, however that reminds me of Afro Latinos saying “ I’m not black, I’m Latino…”
@@biorobot2 that is true I read that but I can’t remember I think it was around 1900 or late 1800 that the Afro Jamaicans started calling themselves as just Jamaicans because the slave tribes intermixed during slavery . Which means they was neither Ghanaian Nigerian Congolese Sierra Leone maybe moors from Spain or whatever slaves came to Jamaica India is a specific country Africa is a continent . Not everyone is the same in Africa
@biorobot2 I don't get the Afro-Latino reference. There are a lot of African Americans that use black American and African American interchangeably. I viewed a video where an African American man was telling a Nigerian man that he was African and not black. Afro-Latinos grew up being called black in the latin culture. They see being called black outside the latin culture, referring to one's nationality and not color plus culture.
Within the African diaspora, we inherited the same basic African cultures but expanded and augmented them based on localization. Each can be very different based on colonial experiences of people's ancestors.
The same complaint I've heard against Kamala Harris. Is she black, or is she Jamaican? I have heard people say that she claimed that she was Jamaican and not black according to them. As if black was a nationality just like Jamaican.
@@lieutenantcolombo1758Europeans regardless what tribe they came from call themselves white/Caucasian. This nonsense about what tribe you belong to was only created to cause division.
I don’t know one Jamaican who doesn’t know that he’s African. I was born and bred in Jamaica
Where have I heard this before Lol 😅😂😂
No matter where you come from as long as you are black man you're a african.
Help me understand, i'M 63 year old AFRiCAN BLK AMERiCAN, it iZ 2023 , you beautiful people are about the age of my children, and ALL You were taught about Black People for History was Slavery? South America and the Caribbean maintained most of AFRiCAN Culture, than America and the UK iZ not that far from the Continent, So help me understand?🤔
Yes you do have black Jamaica who are not serious about Africa. However the majority of blacks who praise and loves the African culture. Please keep in mind that The Hon. Marcus M. Garvey, Bob Marley, and Rastafarism started or founded in Jamaica. ☮️🇯🇲
Yes, when Babylon falls, many people from other parts of the world will be looking toward Africa for refuge! Hear these words. A Africa is the start, and Africa is the centre of the world, not Israel as many people think.
About Jamaicans, there are some Jamaicans that do not consider themselves Africans and there are some that do. It is not fair to just say Jamaicans because that gives the impression that all Jamaicans think the same and they really don't.
It was slavery that brought us to Jamaica. Without the participation of our ancestors, we would still be on the continent of Africa. Why is there no discussion about our ancestors being sold, and how many got wealthy from it? My nationality is Jamaican first. There are people from the continent in the UK who don’t accept us. My friend’s mother calls me "slave baby," so why should I pretend as if we are loved by Africans? Only some love us. In my speech fighting the Home Office for the right to stay here, I spoke about the plantations that helped build Britain.
The most important thing that you guys didn’t discuss in this video is that all West African governments need to apologize to the African Diaspora worldwide for selling their ancestors into slavery. Yes we know some of our ancestors were kidnapped by Europeans and Americans and forced into slavery against their will but African Kings from Nigeria, Ghana and most of west Africa sold some of our Ancestors to Europeans and for that the West African Government must apologize and there must be a day of atonement that should be recognized annually. Diaspora governments in the Caribbean are negotiating reparations with past Colonizers but West African governments need to apologize and pay some form of reparations as well.
I know there are a few but by majority most know and embrace they're root. They've never been as lost as certain other people. But if they are becoming Americanised no surprise that they've lost their root.
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You ever heard of...PETER TOSH'S Classic Song...."AFRICAN"..???
Perhaps you should go listen to it...❤❤❤...
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Once you're black or of African descent you're African, African is a race not just a land mass. Jamaica has played a huge roll in the genesis and growth of Pan-Africanism so a generalized statement like this is misrepresentation of the views of Jamaicans. Lastly it's not Caribbeans, it's West Indians.
Black is not a race either. Black Australians are not the same race as Black Jamaicans. Black Africans, Black Melanesians, Black Indians and Black Americans are all different race.
Yes this is fact. Black is not A Race. I absolutely despise this word to describe Afro texture people. And our colour is not even black
Wholly hair is Africa not the colour black. Our Albino are whites
British Caribbean here of African descent; firstly race is a Western social construct soley based on skin colour (black, white, brown, mixed). Ethnicity includes elements such as culture, geographical origins, language etc. Every racially Black person is ethnically African or a mix of African and other ethnicities. Unfortunately when the Europeans decided to exploring and colonise the world and displace many Africans from the continent hundreds of years ago, they also took away our anxestors identity and then we just had to create our own. African Americans, Afro Caribbeans and Afro Latinos are all African, we were all on the same boat, just got off at different stops.
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Many Black Americans, Lemba, Bani Israel of Senegambia, Yibir, Falasha, and Igbos are descendants of the ancient Israelites.
I am Jamaican growing up hear the rastafari singing about africa and going back to africa,I knew we are Africans Jamaican,the younger people nowadays maybe a little different but I grew up living the African ways,so that lady has heard a person say they're not African, yes they weren't born in africa that's what they mean,because I heard it younger ones saying they are not African because they weren't born there,they know their ancestors are fr Africa so they're of African lineage,I wasn't ashamed of Africa I saw sick hungry people and children I felt so sorry and angry at the same time,we believe the white people took disease to africa,and again they says in history that our own people sold us out,but a lot of Jamaican and carribean people watch a lot of Nigerian movies which show how much alike we are I love Africans and africa,
Just understand we Jamaicas still eat semilar food to west Africans, yams, plantain, cassava etc,we use African words in our language, we know the Anancy stories from the Ashanti people in Ghana, passed down the generations in Jamaica.
This is why I feel all black peoples affected by slavery should have a pilgrimage to Africa.
If you go to Jamaica and ask if their Africans they should know that they are unless they missed school or can't read or is lost. On the streets everyone will say I am African...I don't know what she is saying...you might have taken her out of context.
On the streets it will be said yeah we are one and a lot of them want to visit and want to return home. But we don't know Africa for sure...it's been losses but many of us will say our roots and know it.
Even some of the whitest Jamaicans call themselves such...we didn't know much but had been proud.
Besides a lot the foods we enjoy in
Jamaica is from Africa..the flavours, the culture and most of the celebrations in our country came out of African culture...also we can understand the Nigerian pig in because our creole is similar....it might be a bit of confusion.
Our culture is mostly African ...proper education if not met might be causing an identity crisis.
Maintain is correct...The same is true for so called "African-Americans".
Black Americans were hit over the head with “AFRICA” we were never allowed to deny slavery or Africa
All black people are from Africa, PERIOD!!!
They can deny as much as they want but a fact is fact - Some Jamaicans are mixed with White and South Indians 🤷🏽♂️
how much American first before anything else culture difference everything different that don't say we all are human and connected together in somewhere no matter the color
1828 Webster dictionary of an American is below. Key words cooper colour.
AMER'ICAN, adjective Pertaining to America.
AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.
9:22 Just like Bantus split up into various languages and tribes as they spread across Africa. They've been separated and changed by different experiences over centuries, but still Bantu right? Same with the Caribbean, except we mixed and have no single locus of origin. So we are of African descent, yet we must respect our differences. Its presumptuous to claim to be African, knowing nothing of the place and the people, or ignoring the obvious differences.
THIS "Jamaicans don't consider themselves Africans BUT WHY?" is the stupidest headline ever
As a black Jamaican I see my self as a west African, I look no different to west African. it confuse me when other black Jamaican's say they are not African.
Don't know waht to make of it, not matter where a Jew settle they are still Jew first and foremost they don't stop being Jew.
Jamaicans sure love them some Haile Selassie though.
Rasta do they are the most conscious Jamaicans listen to reggae . I love the Rasta for embracing us. But Haitians are more like siblings . African Americans most of them know their roots that’s why they are called African Americans . They are repatriating to Africa in numbers .
British Slave Masters displayed African Ancestors to different Caribbean Islands and French Slave Masters displayed Africans to Haiti. And USA and Canada were established illegally by British Slave Masters and French Slave Masters and in turn displayed Africans into both Nations. Love from DC. ------ Osollo
Regurgitating white mans history and narrative...
Just listen to Jamaican roots music and you will see how Jamaican cried for Africa. The whole Rasta religion is base on Africa.
The fair skinned people you see in Egypt and Northern Africa today actually are not African...They are descendants of invaders from Greece, Rome, Turkey, etc. Some have mixed with the Black Africans who were already there, but many are just straight European.
I don’t know where this person get their information Rasta wave the Ethiopian flag for years just look at the color of Rasta
I don't know anything about this. I've never met any Jamaicans who try to distance themselves from their African roots. I've had waaay more Jamaicans of Asian or European ancestry try to claim African roots, just by virtue of our mutual Jamaicanness. A bit delusional, but it's a beautiful thing. I think there's a difference between saying Jamaicans are of African descent, and saying that plus a bunch of other political nonsense propaganda with it. Most everyone will accept the simple fact, but try to attach various ideas and dubious claims with it and we are going to reject them. Don't then claim we don't see ourselves as African descendants. Others simply recognize that we have been isolated for long enough that we feel disingenuous to say we are the same when we clearly see how different we have become.
Source: Im a Jamaican born and bred, live in NY metro area, met other Jamaicans on 4 other continents, married to an African.
What!!! The headline is trash
Nobody there is Jamaican, just a black man from Britain who has never lived in Jamaica, and nothing Jamaican about him.
Where do you get your information most Jamaicans look at themselves as Africans look at the Rasta flag
The title...according to who?
Because not all Jamaicans are African descent. smh. I'm a Jamaican of Portugueses jewish descent via my mother and part African through my Dad but I Identify as Jewish NOT African and I am jewish under jewish law. And im part of the JEWISH community NOT the African or western "blk community" if it exists. No offence.
So Yes my nationality is Jamaican and my ethnicity is Jewish. simple as that. I'm not born in Africa or Identify with it. I recognise i'm part African but i'm not interested in it. When it comes to Africa I am only interested in the Jews of Ethiopia or the Lemba in Africa as they are my people as fellow JEWS thats all. Jamaica is a multinational place. it depends on how you are grown and to which side of your family you are close too if you are mixed.Also
The Rasta Jamaicans identify with Africans and so do the Maroon Jamaicans. Even the Pocomanian Jamaicans Identify with Africa.
There are Jewish Jamaicans (Ashkenazi and Sephardic), Cuban Jamaicans, Indian Jamaicans, Syriac Jamaicans, chinese Jamaicans, African Jamaicans etc.
I think having this conversation without a Jamaican perspective is a bit biased. Most of us as Jamaicans are very aware of our ancestry and strongly embraces it. We can be Jamaicans of African ancestry, both ideas can be and are true and to deny this is just share stupidity
Secret, as soon as someone says they are from the Caribbean, you know they are not Jamaican..as a Jamaican will always say they are Jamaican.
Same as Nigeria, they say they are feom Nigeria.
This is a joke People on this panel aren't Jamaican but feel as if they can speak on it.
It is like saying someone from napal can teel you about life in Japan yet never lived there or worked or anything that is an insult.
The title is incorrect. I assume it's just to stoke the conversation.
The truth is that some Jamaicans do, and some do not. It's down to education both in the Jamaican school and Jamaican homes. You can not get a sense of the truth by one Jamaican woman talking on the internet.
Also, 'Black' Jamaicans are Africans. But, any one can be a Jamaican. White, Asian, Chinese etc.
So I assume you are taking only about black Jamaicans?
Jamaicans are a mixture of Indian Hindu Taino native African and Spanish makes up the Jamaican DNA which makes the confusion amongst Jamica to be just African
You're partly correct. i'm not confused, i'm jewish Jamaican from Portuguese sephardic and ashkenazi roots via my mother and my dad is African descent . I identify as a jew and not African. Under jewish law one is jewish via their mother and I grew up jewish and part of the jewish community. So my nationality is indeed Jamaican ( Jamaican is not a colour) and my ethnicity is I jewish descent and part African or a jew-maican. I identify with My mothers family, and the faith and so on. I do not identify with Africa at al or my fathers family. I recognise i'm part African but i'm not interested in it. I am only interested in the Jews of Ethiopia or the Lemba in Africa as they are my people as fellow JEWS thats all. Jamaica is a multinational place. it depends on how you are grown and to which side of your family you are close too if you are mixed.
Its okay they dont have to be considered african. they have their own island. Africans are already good.
Please don't talk about issues you don't know of. Jamaicans know they are of African descent and always be Africans.
Jamaicans are not just black
Most of the black people in the Caribbean are indigenous to the Americas we were colonized here and they were shipping us up and down the Americas
You know not of what you speak. WE are mostly of African descent but are Jamaican. Africans SOLD our forefathers into slavery so why should I consider myself African?
Mama Africa is a Mother of multiple children... But let be real, as long as us Africans from the motherland are still separated by those artificial borders blocking us to emerge as a Super Power, most of those folks will try to deassociate themselves to us... Let Get Our Shit Together and Respect Will Follow, Crime and disrespect against our People all over the World will drastically dropped, because the price to pay will be emediate and too high for them to carry.... Much Love To my Caribbean's People, let Bring Haiti as a full member of the African Union as well instead of trying to introduce country like Israel as observers... I'm out 😎🔥🦁
I have seen an italian girl white father African mom says she italian Thats all she knows
And all the Jamaicans in the UK think I'm African even though I'm half nova scotian 🇨🇦 and Dominican 🇩🇴. And Jamaicans look so Ghanaian so Jamaicans are African I did my dna test and I'm not African I'm Indian 🏹
Sure you are, can see the Indian so clearly.
@@db6881lmaoo 😅😅😅 yes indeed you can see it so clearly that he's a full-blooded Indian. Only his mother think so. Lmaoo 😅😅😅😅
One blood one people!! ❤❤❤❤
Nubia is the third black continent specially for the black man