I have one of these exact same machines and I can tell you they do a heck of a job. That square grind cuts so much better than the round grind because it severs the wood fibers so much better than the round grind. Also make sure to use a gauge (and another grinder-I use the Oregon 511 AX) to take the rakers down to .025" below the freshly sharpened teeth. Another thing to remember with those grinding wheels is to keep the corner of that wheel from getting too much of a black mark on it because when you see that black mark starting you will start to blue teeth. One last thing is it looks like you guys are running full comp chain and I will tell you here in Oregon all the professional loggers and myself run full skip chains and they turn faster and clear out so much better than the full comp chains. A full skip chain is also way faster to grind because there are way less teeth to sharpen.
Square ground is a chisel profile on the tooth and corner, round filed/ground is a hollow ground profile on each tooth, and extra hollow on the corner.
Square ground has been a game changer for me, (and I've still got a lot to learn) saw it first on Bucking Billy Ray, and then Treeson with Big Mike. Bought a Simington 451C from Madsens .. they posted it to New Zealand for me. The other biggy has been barker boxes from west coast saws for my MS 460's, 660, 880. I'm 20-30% faster stump to stump, its way faster, way easier. I've been working too hard all these years. If you're cutting more than 10 cord you should consider this. There must be someone in your area who has one. Granberg 108 is a small hand gig you can use between major sharpens. See the Swiss guy on you tube under square ground chain. Good luck to you.
You can't get them in Auzz / NZ you have to get them from Madsen's and they'd are pricey and had to get a mate with a USA credit card as they don't that non USA cards, good luck ..if you are a logger this may be worth it ..if just a weekend guy its possibly not worth it. @@pearllllllll
I've been hand filing my .325 chain on my 346 xp for a couple years now,very time consuming ,but i really like how it cuts,wish i could score one of those grinders for half price.
Ethan, I know the system is quite expensive (~$1800) and I would like to know what was the reason for your buying this? How did you lear how to work it? Do you grind chains as a business? Where ate you located? How can I contact you if I want work done? Thank you for showing us your skills.
It's hard to find the RS 0.063" gauge chain here. Mostly RM 0.050" gauge. RSKL is not available through the distributor from Stihl here either. Lots of semi-chisel. Have to special order all the carbide too.
@@TheDurbinCompound For some reason its all rubbish out of the box, get that chain and touch it with a Simington, take the rakers down 10 thou and it will take your RS to the cleaners. The Oregon may be a bit faster out of the box, but Stihl's tooth seems bigger/ longer. I run square now and wouldn't go back to RS for anything. just my 2c
Any chain straight out of the box just doesn't cut good, I always file my new chains before I head to the woods. It makes a big difference, you can tell the difference when you're filing a chain.
@@sheepdog271 the new husky x chains do a great job out of the box, fast and smooth, it also holds an edge very well(comparable to stihl chain). The bummer is its not something you can easily duplicate, I can get it close on the grinder, but it takes multiple passes at multiple angles. If I want it fast/faster and very smooth, I put it in the simington.
So with this machine, do you take a round ground chain and then put your square grind on it? How do you figure out the angles? How do you dress the stone? I am very interested but have many questions
Yeah we don’t go over all that in this video! Here is a much better video for square grinding and setting everything up! th-cam.com/video/33CsqXCU9cc/w-d-xo.html
I have one of these exact same machines and I can tell you they do a heck of a job. That square grind cuts so much better than the round grind because it severs the wood fibers so much better than the round grind. Also make sure to use a gauge (and another grinder-I use the Oregon 511 AX) to take the rakers down to .025" below the freshly sharpened teeth. Another thing to remember with those grinding wheels is to keep the corner of that wheel from getting too much of a black mark on it because when you see that black mark starting you will start to blue teeth.
One last thing is it looks like you guys are running full comp chain and I will tell you here in Oregon all the professional loggers and myself run full skip chains and they turn faster and clear out so much better than the full comp chains. A full skip chain is also way faster to grind because there are way less teeth to sharpen.
I like your new video today you did a really good jop today this was a really cool video today good jop
Square ground is a chisel profile on the tooth and corner, round filed/ground is a hollow ground profile on each tooth, and extra hollow on the corner.
Square ground has been a game changer for me, (and I've still got a lot to learn) saw it first on Bucking Billy Ray, and then Treeson with Big Mike. Bought a Simington 451C from Madsens .. they posted it to New Zealand for me. The other biggy has been barker boxes from west coast saws for my MS 460's, 660, 880. I'm 20-30% faster stump to stump, its way faster, way easier. I've been working too hard all these years. If you're cutting more than 10 cord you should consider this. There must be someone in your area who has one. Granberg 108 is a small hand gig you can use between major sharpens. See the Swiss guy on you tube under square ground chain. Good luck to you.
How much are those grinders ?
In Australia
Haven't found one to know the price
Thank you
You can't get them in Auzz / NZ you have to get them from Madsen's and they'd are pricey and had to get a mate with a USA credit card as they don't that non USA cards, good luck ..if you are a logger this may be worth it ..if just a weekend guy its possibly not worth it. @@pearllllllll
I met Ethan at Sawfest. He runs impressive saws and is even more impressive young man!
No doubt!
These guys know what’s up👍🏻
Ya buddy!
I've been hand filing my .325 chain on my 346 xp for a couple years now,very time consuming ,but i really like how it cuts,wish i could score one of those grinders for half price.
You and me both brother! I have considered just biting the bullet and buying one. They sharpen so fast and so easy.
@@TheDurbinCompound Yes ,i'm with you ,it may be time to Bite the bullet!
@@TheDurbinCompound they are nice to have, I have two of the earlier versions, they do a great job.
I could be wrong but I don't think the standard disc will do a .325 .. only the 3/8 or .404. There might be a thinner disc out there.
@@stihlnz Hi
What are the grinders worth to buy ?
Even a ball park price
I'd like one of those raker grinders too
Wonder how much ?
Any clue
Thank you
Guilty of treeson is one of my favorite channels
Ethan, I know the system is quite expensive (~$1800) and I would like to know what was the reason for your buying this? How did you lear how to work it? Do you grind chains as a business? Where ate you located? How can I contact you if I want work done? Thank you for showing us your skills.
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Wish I knew someone in Hudson, Florida area with one.
It's hard to find the RS 0.063" gauge chain here. Mostly RM 0.050" gauge. RSKL is not available through the distributor from Stihl here either. Lots of semi-chisel. Have to special order all the carbide too.
I have found out in recent testing that RSKL chain is garbage. I couldn’t believe how bad it was out of the box. The RS chain was twice as fast!
@@TheDurbinCompound How about after grinding/filing it.
@@TheDurbinCompound For some reason its all rubbish out of the box, get that chain and touch it with a Simington, take the rakers down 10 thou and it will take your RS to the cleaners. The Oregon may be a bit faster out of the box, but Stihl's tooth seems bigger/ longer. I run square now and wouldn't go back to RS for anything. just my 2c
Any chain straight out of the box just doesn't cut good, I always file my new chains before I head to the woods. It makes a big difference, you can tell the difference when you're filing a chain.
@@sheepdog271 the new husky x chains do a great job out of the box, fast and smooth, it also holds an edge very well(comparable to stihl chain). The bummer is its not something you can easily duplicate, I can get it close on the grinder, but it takes multiple passes at multiple angles. If I want it fast/faster and very smooth, I put it in the simington.
Good info. Thanks!
So with this machine, do you take a round ground chain and then put your square grind on it? How do you figure out the angles? How do you dress the stone? I am very interested but have many questions
Yeah we don’t go over all that in this video! Here is a much better video for square grinding and setting everything up!
th-cam.com/video/33CsqXCU9cc/w-d-xo.html
Great video
Nice 1 guys
I always kinda thought the same thing the gullet of the round ground looks like a scoop
Where can you send chains to be square cut?
first
Dresses this “chain”….you mean stone…
Sorry to state the obvious, when you’re trying to portray precision, get the title right