Square ground filing with double chisel bit file
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- Square ground filing
Square filing
Square chisel chain
Square ground hand filing
Square hand filing
Sharpening chainsaw chain
Round ground chisel chain
Round ground to square filed
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Stihl MS 500i
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Double chisel bit file
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#squaregroundexperience
Absolutely the best video I have ever seen about chisel chain, the close up live footage of the file going through the cutters is awesome. Mine cut fast, but not this fast.
Same. I dont speak this language and have no idea what you just said but this is a very well put together video. Learned alot from this thank you
100%
Man I have watched a ton of videos on this subject, but yours are the ones that have allowed me to actually get a proper square file on my chains! Excellent explanation and the images of the cutters from several angles made all the difference.
Excellent Excellent Excellent, Absolutely the best Video Explanation of Square Filing!! Thank You so much,Very Grateful!
The most comprehensive square grind video on TH-cam. Perfect camera work and English subtitles no hindrance whatsoever.
Probably the best video on square filing. Absolute perfecto and thank you for the subtitles my friend!
nate thx for helping this info get out for folks , there is not to much more a fella wood need ta know its all right here ,, well done fella s
Hey Buckin what files have you been using? i think im gonna try some of these next time i order, Ive only used Pferd but i really like the shape hes using in this video!
@@michpatriot9097 hes using Vallorbe double chisle bit files ftom the Swiss.
@Buckin' Billy Ray Smith, thx budy we try to share around all the details about square ground filing here overseas. Its very populare in France, Swiss and Austria, the Germans are a bit to lazy. 😁
I was watching the Billy Ray vid. About square filling ,and after im gonig here and i find a comment of Billy Ray himself ,great video clear and essential i had to add. this channel to the Billy Ray one
@@JoeGhost61 thanks so much Joerg..just ordered one!
I really like the method of clamping the chain in the end of the vise with the chain falling off beyond the tooth you are filing. So many benefits to this method, you won't hit the chain link, and you certainly don't have to worry about the tooth moving around when your filing......well done.
Im ordering those files same brand ..your filing skills are surgical! Your video is very helpful i appreciate it and im confident i can get it on point thanks to you . GREETINGS FROM THE USA 🇺🇸MY FRIEND
Thank you for the video. I am trying to learn. Subtitles are super helpful!!
Video increible super explicativo paso a paso , todo perfecto y en verdad corta a gran velocidad , gracias por enseñarnos amigo ,desde Tampa,FL,E.U. Lo felicito.
Yup agree, even though it's in French with subtitles this is by far the best video on square ground chains! Manifique!
Best chisel filing video on TH-cam. Thank you 😊
Now THAT is a professional video and a professional file job!
I feel like I should get college credits for watching this course 🤔 super in depth
Thanks for the great video! I had purchased the exact same Vallorbe file and have been practicing this sharpening method based on other good videos. This video just reinforced all the basics in an extremely clear visual way. I keep one saw dedicated with a square chisel chain and only use it on clean trees where I know I won't hit rocks. The other saws get round filed and it's all a happy mix.
What site did u buy the files from?
Or did u go to a store?
@@gaylordsuckballs5096 I bought it from Madsen’s Shop and Supply in Centralia, WA. Order by phone.
perfect video, sir! I'm watching it again.
Awesome video, thank you making one with subtitles. I've been trying my hand at hand square fill. Been square grinding for a number of years now and got tired of packing 4-6 chains in my backpack.
Thats the best hand square filing I have seen. Very well done.
Thank you for a detailed close explanation of the technique. I’m going to try it.
This is the best tutorial on square filing and I don't speak French! Thank you!
Interesting. I was taught to file upwards and into the top corner of the cutter, not downwards, the reason being that the intention is to form a burr at the sharp edge of the top plate and side plate. Filing downwards prevents a burr forming, and I was told that making the burr guaranteed the sharpest edge possible. This principle is taken from knife sharpening. Also, the burr is easy to see when you're filing, and stopping as soon as you see the burr makes it possible to remove the minimum amount of steel to get the sharpest edge. If you can't see the burr, then you're basically guessing how much steel you need to remove, since there is no visual cue. I'm very happy with the sharpness of my chains (I have 5 chainsaws), but I might give this idea a go and see what I think to it. I also sharpen both the right and left pointing cutters alternately by standing in front of the tip of the bar. This avoids having to go round the whole chain twice in order to sharpen all the cutters. Just my 2c. I'm now thinking I should make my own video!
Agreed in all aspects. I like to file outward also to form the burr....I might say though that this guy in the vid looks like he has been doing this a long time so likely......
Takes the exact same amount of strokes off each tooth.
However this is not always the real world scenario and it takes as many strokes as necessary to get the tooth sharp.
Meaning if one or 2 teeth take 6 file strokes while the rest of the chain only takes 4 ....I am going to leave it
And not go over the whole rest of the chain just to take 2 extra strokes off the rest of the teeth just to make them all exactly the same.
This is seriously the best video I’ve ever seen for teaching how to square file.
Totally.
Excellent video explaining the distinct intersections and how to correct them by adjusting which filing angle.
I have been watching several channels on square filing and at an age where change has to be questioned (my wife calls it interrogation). 1) Why? faster cut? ego? 2) does it dull quick 3) how forgiving is the file should you get a stroke wrong. 4) does the end justify the means? 5) Is it worth me giving it a shot? Yes! Thanks for the lesson
We're in the same boat. I'm finding that changing from round to square file to be a real challenge. Worth it? Not sure yet. I can round file perfectly. Of the age where I have the time, but it's like deciding to use the opposite hand to write with. Takes some real concentration. Good luck!
@@bob_frazier Bob, I've been at it for a year now ... my 3/8 chain is generally pretty amazing ..really fast ..I'm have a bit of trouble with the .404 .. I've got a simington 451C ..then do it by hand.
@@stihlnz That's awesome Tom! And now there's Hexa I want to at least try it. You?
@@bob_frazier I live in New Zealand .... I think they'll try to sell you the whole kit ..chain and file ? ... I've rung them up ..not sure if I can just get the file. Files are $18 NZ pricey. Come out in march. Good luck
@@stihlnz March 8s here, and no Hexa products at my local saw shop. Good luck in NZ!
😲 Never have I seen shavings like that before. Wow.
Absolutely beautiful step by step guide! Thank you sir!
that was a very high standard of production and saw handling thank you
Great video. Thank you for the English subtitles! I've been running full chisel chain on my Jonsered for 20 years filing with a round file. I may have to try this.
That's a 1st someone that can actually hand sharpen square making a vid for a change.
Good job.
Jacob from Guilty of Treeson (youtube channel) made one on square filing too not long time ago. With these 2 videos you will have everything to master the skill 👍
Fantastic vid on square filing. Thank you for taking the time to make and post it!
Great video! From USA, Great state of SC!
What a excellent video, just heard about this couple weeks ago. But know i understand how to make it work . im ordering a file now. Thank you very much for this fantastic video.
Hi
Where from you getting files?
The files wear out fast! Order more!!!
@@michedmck Hi mate
Just a question
As I'm thinking you may know
Do you need a square type chain
Or
Can you convert the chain
Already sharpening it with a round file
To applying the square file
To create the square cut ?
Thank you
Thank you for this video. This is a technique I am learning and this was very helpful. By the way...... nice Stihl.
Thank you very much for your knowledge and the part numbers, good luck to you.
Hey Swisse man ..what size file do you use for the gullet ?
Excellente vidéo, démonstration remarquable. Grâce à votre très bonne démarche pédagogique je vais pouvoir travailler en parfaite connaissance avec mon outillage d’abattage. Merci Monsieur.
This guy knows how to sharpen and cut! Wow, the slabs just pealed off when limbing! Look at the noodles! And, a 500i with a short bar. That doesn't happen on the west coast often, but works perfectly for the application.
votre video est d'une qualité incroyable! pour ceux qui comprenne le francais c'est une véritable trouvaille. je suis tres content d'avoir decouvert votre chaine et vos video!
Je suis rarement admiratif du travail d’aiguisage des scies à chaine fait par les TH-camurs, mais là je suis impressionné. Votre technique pour filmer et enseigner est aussi superbe. Bravo!
Great video, thank you for sharing! One of the best I’ve seen.
this would be excellent on a ripping chain/alaska mill, the "chips" in soft wood look like spaghetti! Im sold!
Impressionnante technique! Un guide chaine court et une 500i offre une rapidité de coupe incroyable. Je serais curieux de voir la comparaison avec une chaine standard.
This video is incredible, will definitely be re watching online the shed starting all my chain! Those teeth look like animals!! Tye cuts at the end are so satisfying! Like a hot knife through butter!! Big respect to you
Thank you for making this video. It was very informative and well done.
I'm also in aww of your skills and abilities. You and chainsaws are a natural combination.
When you have a video like this, you might also have 1,000 of these files in stock and include a link to your website where you sell them to interested parties. You can still do this buy adding a comment and highlighting the comment so your comment always comes first.
Great video! Very clear/ concise and all the angles were shot perfectly!
Great video. I’m going to give this a try now. Unbelievable depth.
Video au top comme toujours encore bravo et grand merci à toi 👍👍🔝🔝
Sehr gutes Video, alles exzellent erklärt; den Kantenschliff muss ich ausprobieren.
Can’t wait to try this. Thank you.
Merci
Great video, thank you 🌿
Charpening knifes and chains is always some kind of magic.
Wish this was in english looked like a very good demonstration of square filing. After sharpening saw chains for the past 45 years, I only heard about this square filing this past month, seem like it's becoming very popular in the last couple years.
Its all good but i do not understand the benefits over round filing?Its sharper?I do not think so.Stays sharp longer?I doubt it.
@@ahti29 It definitely cuts faster.
SUPER dzięki POZDROWIENIA z Darłowa nad Bałtykiem emeryt PASIONAT eko ogrodów
Excellent again. Perfecto. Bravo...
Excellent explanation, one of the best I’ve seen.
Absolutes Top Video über den Kantenschliff! Vielen Dank!
Fabulous tutorial! Thanks so much for posting!
Awesome Tutorial. What about the Rakers ( Depth Gauges) 0,65 or 0,8mm?
Cuts Insane!
@Maciej Jan Długosz thanks
👍 From Cadillac Michigan
Wonderful video, thank you for taking the time to make it. Very informative.
Awesome video......The question is what kind of file needs for each chain (1/4-325-3/8-404 etc)
WTF? I was just looking to upgrade my MS261 with a light 04 bar and chain and this happened!
Gobsmacked!
Best video ever, still not clear to me though what disadvantages for the single bevel file compared to double bevel
Super belle video , avec un magnifique test dans du sapin ❤❤❤❤
Excellent! Très bon explication. J’espère c’est le mieux film dans internet. Merci bien!
Excellent job on your video showing how to square file correctly...been square filing for years...Shoe
Where did you By it I would like to get one!!!!!!!????
@@danchenoweth4747 Hi Dan...buy what,the chain or the files to sharpen with? Usually purchase chisel square ground/file chain from Matsen's mail order in Washington files too. They have great prices also Baileys in California are good to, usually get better prices out of Matsens.
@@robertshoemaker6204 hi vallorbe the square ground filing with double chisel bit file .
The file they show on the video
Where do you buy the file
Thank you and Have a good day
Salut superbe video toujours au top la sa coupe quelle plaisir de faire du bois avec une tronçonneuse qui coupe voudrais trop savoir faire repasser avec cette technique ce savoir faire...la ce n'est pas un guignol un vrai pro ssss..plus qu a acheter cette chaine et ces limes est de s entraîné voudrais trop etre a votre niveau encore merci pour la demo🤘👍👍👍👍👍👍
Excellente vidéo
Thank you!!!!!
素晴らしい！ 画面だけで言わんとしていることがしっかりと伝わる。説明も丁寧だ。
研ぐ方向が逆なのは日欧の違い、なのかな。
Merci pour ta video
Excellente explication y a plus qu'à 😆
De plus monsieur ne se refuse rien, ebranchage avec une 500i..... 😉
Excellent tutorial!! Thanks 🙏🏻
Outstanding video! Thank you.
Thank you!! Thank you!!!
👍👍 best square filing vid iv seen so far
Can we double up on the chainsaw pants. Very impressed with the performance
Thank you .
All good works a treat love it long time hey , cheers .
Even with sub titles best video on the subject
Awesome information and presentation!
Thank you for the file code.
Holy crap look at those hash browns he's throwing when hes cutting. Very nice!
Magnifique 🤩
Super vidéo, trés bien expliqué maintenant il me faudrait avoir ce genre de lime, vue comment vous avez coupé c'est comme du beurre, merci pour le partage 👍
perfect educational vidioes ive been wanting to try square ground thank for the nice vidioe
Amazing video!
👏👍 Poland
Bravo pour cette vidéo. Totalement fan 👍.
Best video amazing
Can you comment on how long these files last? I usually toss round files pretty quick but they are much cheaper.
Thanks
from what I've done so far, I am counting on four or five full comp, 3/8, 72D (20 inch) sharpenings per file. I have finally seen some by Vallorbe on the internet, and Madsin's sell Pferd I believe, (or it might be Baily's that sells them). Can I have your opinion on something: At 9:54 , just over the second 'o' in Oregon, the curve under the file's lower edge appears to have been cleaned out with a small file prior to him sharpening, so there is a relief for the lower angle. When I sharpen mine, the file binds, and yanks at the chain, I have seen it with everyone else except this guy. I think he pre-filed the gullet to clear out any lower obstruction. What do you think ? (I will be trying it my way to see if it helps).
Never mind, he did it at 11:55.
Hello. Whats the reason behind to clean the gullet that you show on 12 min. Thanks. Wish you a happy new year!
Finally “thank you “ I have it 🤗
Good video...... I really have a good laugh when people talk about hard wood though.... Trust me, everything you cut is Balsa Wood compared to the Jarrah and Buloke and Mallee that lurks in the dark and dangerous corners of some continent in the Southern Hemisphere.
Great video and the chain cuts realy fast, one question though, can the file be opperated the other way? Like the usual round filing but with the same angles?
Любопытно. А мы всё круглыми натфелями точим.
Great video, the color on the faces and angles are really nice, easy to get right away what you mean. Great explanation too.
Did you noticed if the chain stays sharp longer than a round profile?
@E. Lebrunet : yes, square filing stay sharp longer than a round profile
Bravo!!!
I will have to try this sharpening on my saw. Looks impressive in the wood slice. VF
En España🇪🇸 no encuentro esas limas, un saludo
Beautiful!
This vid convinced me to try square filing. Where can I buy the LC 10020- 2279-8 in the US? Google didn't help.
@Clint Bryant : 🤷♂️ they are not easy to find !
@@stihlfansuisse Many thanks. Yes they are not. I found the LC 2271 at MGP Supply in Wisconsin.
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY 🤔 : www.baileysonline.com/?SID=50c8k1nndods9p8k2r8a0jok0u
@@stihlfansuisse Thanks again.