Using GEAR OIL in an ENGINE!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2024
- Can you use Gear Oil in an Engine? The Results will surprise you!
Most people believe that Gear Oil is much thicker than Engine Oil, and putting it in an engine would destroy the motor. So I put that theory to the test. I check oil pressure with 20W-50 Engine Oil and 75W-85 Gear Oil in the engine. Watch the full video: • Running GEAR Oil in an...
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I actually knew a thing lol. If I remember correctly, 80w gear oil is roughly the same viscosity as 30w motor oil. Hence why some gearboxes say you can use 85w gear oil or straight 30w engine oil. People get all concerned about oil weights, but they don't translate to what you think they mean. I'm not really sure what they mean either.
Some folks say the Gear Oil grades are supposed to be double what the engine oil grades are. Intended to avoid confusion. Not sure whether that was successful or not 😂
Correct my 03’ civic calls for 5w30 in the gear box.
I had an old Ford 2.0l In a ranger. When the rockers popped out from under the cam. I put them back in place and ran gear oil for another 100k miles.
Ford F’n Ranger 😂😎
I AIN'T NO STRANGER
I beat that old truck like it owed me money. I sold it to a scrap yard who ran it for 3 more years as a yard truck and torch truck. Never put a Penn into it.
The additives that deposit material on your gears so it can wear instead of your gears will make rings and hydraulic lash adjusters stick. Plus it has none of the detergents that your engine needs
I discussed those things in the full length video 😉. th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G-nc9lgxomnMBlPn
Neither does racing oil.
It’s a fact. Most people think racing oil is better because it says “Racing” on it. It’s is better for racing, but not a DD.
@@freedomworx
Made my vtec honda gain 60hp, then i put the sticker on the car of my oil sponser, extra 7hp
@@JohnSmith-xu7ev I can feel the VTEC kick in through the keyboard.
The oil doesn't matter beceause the bypass valve opens and prevents the oil filter from blowing off your truck.
The gear oil has. Different friction modifiers and that will assuredly blow your engine. Split pump gears, snap distributor shaft coupler, and strip cam gear. But science.....
Maybe you should watch the full video 🤷🏻♂️ th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MMHotTbaIuGNt9Sa
Because science
Very Scientifical 🤓
I was more than glad the engine didnt blow up
Small Block don’t care 👍
I had a Subaru with an lower end engine knock, state inspection station said no inspection sticker until I fix my exhaust leak, I informed him it was a rod/bearing knock, he reintegrated above statement, I went home poured some 85/90w in the oil, engine purred, I drove it back and got My inspection sticker.
Is it really a bottom end knock if it's a boxer engine? It's more like a middle knock 🤓
I would have used STP not manual transmission oil.
I have used STP in different engines over the years with no problems.
STP is almost like cold honey.
Tbh I had good experiences using Engine Restore as well.
I don't think it would do much for worn out bushings.
The STP idea was a trick used by used car dealers back in the 70s in Canada.
They would drop 3 cans (metal pull top cans) in the sump to muffle out rod knock to sell off junk.
I thought Subarus were good cars that never blow head gaskets, cvt transmissioms, or start knocking 🤔
@@RetroCaptain ever since 1985 when Richard leeman recommended engine restorer to me every used vehicle I've ever owned has received a can or six of engine restorer.
Interesting test! It's good to know if you were low on oil and had gear oil on hand, you could use it to get home.
Yet. It’ll work just fine in a pinch 👍
Oils oil, any oil is better than no oil
@@johndowe7003just *never never never, use Cooking Oil* in its place or recycle them together.
They're a universe different.
Yes you can top up your desperately low engine using
ATF
Power steering fluid
Hydraulic fluid
Etc as they're all (basically) #10 oil with very different additives and dye.
I'm talking something to get you home not leaving it in for weeks.
Dude, you look like you could be Bert Kreisher's brother!!
Burnt Chrysler 😉
@@freedomworxbahahaha now that's funny right there I don't care who ya are!
If youre really committed, id love to see that stuff sent out for analysis.
For science.
I drained it out immediately after shooting the video. I didn’t do it to show that you can or should, I did it to show people that the viscosity grades of gear oil and engine oil are on a different scale. Watch the full length video. 😉 th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lGP8E60x8vCJQI3H
Engine operating temperatures will be too high for the gear oil, which will degrade rapidly. Basically, you'd have to change it every 1000 miles, maybe, rather than 5 or 10000. Depends on how it's driven.
There is certainly a temperature difference. But it’s not as much as you’d think, and in some scenarios, the diff oil is hotter than the engine oil. Engines have oil coolers, diffs generally don’t.
Absolutely love the look of the truck. Perfection.
I appreciate it. Thanks for watching 👍
Use redline in my 4Runner. Words cannot describe the smell.
Smells like a leaking pinion seal 😉
About 40 years ago had a friend with an old Ford van with an engine knock, changed the oil and put 90 weight gear oil and traded it right away for a new Toyota pickup.
Sounds like he’s ready to be a used car salesman. 😉
Enjoy your content! Like your service truck! Had a 77 with over 400,000 miles on it, sadly, cab rust was just too much in the end.....
That's a lot of miles on a Square Body. Thanks for watching 👍
Works great if you're worried about losing all your coolant. Such as in a demo derby.
I’ve heard that from a few people. 👍
Can you modify rads? Not sire what the rules are on that.
@@johndowe7003 probably depends on where you're at. But also how much work or money you feeling relocating it. If you're going to put in some fresh oil, it might as well be some thick stuff. We always relocated batteries and fuel tanks though.
No you can’t. Gear oil is made to drop the metals out of it. Engine oil is made to keep them in it so it get to the filter
If you've got metal in your oil, you've got problems. Engine oil dispersants aren't there for metal dispersion, they are there for combustion byproduct dispersion. Any metal in an oil past the break-in period is basically microscopic.
@@freedomworx well yeah. But im just stating the differences in the oils
@williamuskoski1385 watch the entire full length video that discusses all that 😉: th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M1JVMEODyirmYOcf
You mean it's a ND oil. Same as SAE 30.
Not really intended for a pressure and filter sump but for "Splash Lubrication"
Why don't you try cooking oil because it's exactly the same as motor oil
Then why don’t you cook with some motor oil 🤷🏻♂️
Eventually, you may do cummulatve damage to the engine. The engines are designed by manufacturer engineers with specific specifications for viscosity and other factors. I would put in exactly what the owner's manual specs call for. The newer engines especially have very tight tolerances.
I’m not saying anyone should use what’s not recommended. Just that they can without worrying.
That actually blew my mind. I always assumed, that the scales for motor and gear oil would be the same. There is something to learn every day.
Anyway, isnt it absolutely stupid to have different scales for oils?
I've had several people comment that the difference in the scale was done deiberately so people wouldn't get engine oil and gear oil mixed up. But I've never actually seen that written in an SAE document anywhere. It might be written somewhere, I've just never seen in.
You did that sign of the cross like you knew what you what you were doing!
I honestly don't. But I've seen it in the movies 🤓
The oil didn't surprise me.
But seeing a supercharger on the engine certainly was a surprise.
Basic small block 😉
@@freedomworx hahaha
Honestly have always thought this would work and I’m glad to see someone experiment and try it 🤣
It will work in the short term, but that advisable. The additive package in gear oil doesn’t play well with engines.
Viscosity scales are different for gear oil than engine oil. Making them similar in Viscosity in reality.
That’s the point of the video 😉.
If you want to jack up oil pressure try 3 bottle worth of STP or 2 bottle of Lucas.
They're meant for a filter and suspension sump.
Non Detergent types are really intended for "splash lubrication"
Yes you can swap out (or top up with different types) in
Transmission (automatic)
Power steering
PTO sumps
Its all the same stock just different dye, different scents, different stabilizer.
Obviously the factory manual will say not to.
I have had success but am aware that the engineering team design their products to run "type abc" and install compatible sealing.
Swapping can lead to shortened seal life.
I’m not trying to increase oil pressure here. I’m trying to demonstrate to people gear oil viscosity grades are on a different scale than engine oil grades. People think that it’s going to be thicker because the numbers are higher. Which isn’t the case.
@@freedomworx It's all "the effects of the additives"
I agree with the other guys who said 20-50
I used to use SAE 30 in summer and 20 or 10 in winter years ago.
Good stuff. Cleaned the crud out and minimum wear
For science😂. This man is a true patriot may God bless him. Now if you can get your wife to believe that you're doing these things for science too you are a genius.
So long as she doesn’t start watching my videos, I’ll be fine 🤫
The weight of that oil is roughly the same due to the difference the weight is measured for gear oil. But I don't think it's a good idea. The additive package is totally different and I'm not sure it's good for an engine long term. Damn cool truck tho.
I’m certainly not recommending it. Just trying to teach people that the scales are different between the two. This is just a clip from the full 14 minute video on my channel 😉
Basic 350 small block 😂🎉
The bottom end is basic 😉
And U can use water in your brake system.
If you really have to
It’s a fact. As long as you don’t get them hot enough to boil it.
When I took the head off my 4 cly '76 Audi fox I found massive gap between the pistons and the cylinders. Obviously the reason I had so much blow-by. I ran that car on 90w gear oil, and that honey engine additive stuff to help the blow-by from emptying the crankcase every 30 miles. Ran it another 20k till the clutch died.
When they are that worn, do whatever it takes 😎
I notice all the pepole saying they ran gear oil. Not one of them is driving anything from this century.
I use what the manufacturer says and at 220k no isdues.
They people that are running gear oil are doing so because their engines are already worn out. It helps increase oil pressure, reducing knocking, and reduce burning. Nobody should be using gear oil as a lubricant in any good engine.
where d you get those rims cowboy
They are Detroit Steel Wheels. D-Town Smoothies
Now fill the entire crankcase with Lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer.
Hard pass. I'm trying to teach folks, not snap an oil pump shaft 😉
@@freedomworx I think the oil pump would survive that. We had a box truck at work with a Chevy 4.8 that was knocking so we started with 4qt oil and 2qt Lucas, eventually going with 4qt Lucas and 2qt oil by the end of its life. Squeezed out about 20k miles out of it before it seized, about 90% hwy miles at 70mph.
@AdmiralRustyShackleford it’s certainly possible. I just wouldn’t want to try that on this motor. It’s only got about 1000 miles on it 😂
@@freedomworx I would definitely try it with an engine that has almost no bearing material left, couldn't do any more damage at that point.
Yes you can but it sure does stink when it burns out the exhaust pipe.
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I used to have a old camaro with the small block 350 in it and one time leaving work i checked my oil it was so low all i had was gear oil shit never had any problems out of it
You do what you’ve got to do 😎
There is a problem with the added stuff that may not be in the gear oil. There is a package of things that gives the oil the ability to help remove WATER in time this will HELP. SLUG THE MOTOR AND THAT WILL HELP YOU A LOT. if it is good for you. Go for it. But not for. Me
I’ve got an entire 13 minute video about this that discusses all of that. 😉. th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CDgovuHEfYECCwD8
Viscosity 75w at low temp 85 at high temp. Sounds like race oil to me😅
"Viscosity Grade" 75W at low temp and "Viscosity Grade" 85 at high temp. Viscosity is a measure of thickness or resistance to flow. A viscosity grade is a range of viscosities at specified temperatures. That subtle distinction causes a lot of confusion with people. Not saying you are confused or don't understand, just clarifying the terminology. 👍
Redline oil is good stuff
Tastes good too.
Diesels will run on anything that’s even considered a lubricant
Put something besides ULSD in a modern diesel and watch what happens 😉
Question have you considered doing it 3000 me like you would or 5,000 a regular oil change and then see what happens like you said it's a thinner oil and you're going to work at all harder when you work the truck then you would just drive down the road and back not trying to be a jerk or call you out or none of this just curious if you're going to be the scientist you need to go full send lol
I’m not running the oil in the truck. I drained it out right after shooting the video. The video is not about running gear oil in an engine. It was to make people aware that gear oil viscosity grades are on a different scale than engine oil viscosity grades. Watch the full length video 😉 th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=eN1TdwiB2orVhPB_
Nice Ute (pickup truck) ;-)
What’d you call me? 😉
Some oil is better than no oil
Turmoil? 🤓
Let's see you do that at -50° C or F
To be fair, I wouldn’t be running 20W-50 at that temperature, so it’s not really a comparable example. I’d be running a 0W-30 most likely, and there is no gear oil viscosity grade comparable to that.
I say run straight 30 weight, NO rod bearing knock; dummies be changing rod bearings, esp. BMW!
SAE 30 is the same viscosity at operating temperature as 0W-30, 5W-30, 10W-30, etc. There is no advantage to running a straight weight oil in a modern street engine. If you want thicker oil for you trashed bearings. You need an oil with an SAE 40 or SAE 50 operating viscosity grade. Which again, offers no advantage over a 0W-40 or 20W-50. Straight weight oils are for engines with very few cold starts and long oil change intervals. Like trains, ships, and lawnmowers.
Try it at 0° f
I wouldn’t use the 20W-50 that’s in the engine at 0F.
20-50 ? Why ?
Why not? 🤷🏻♂️
Everything is thinner than 20w50 🙂
I think this is the only Gear Oil that’s thinner. 😉
Put that in a vvt engine and see what happens
The 75W-85 would be better for the engine than the 20W-50 engine oil, because it’s actually thinner. But to be fair, I don’t imagine there are any VVT engines out there calling for 20W-50. So neither the gear oil or engine oil have any business in a VVT engine 🤷🏻♂️
Well it is also a 350cid
I bottle brush honed it out to 351cid 🤓
@@freedomworx Eather way its still tough as nails
Number one......thinner? Nope. Get smart dude.
I’m actually the smart one here. Watch the entire video and learn something. 🤷🏻♂️ th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=u96FK9QGBSMTe8_R
Why?
To teach people that Gear Oil Viscosity Grades and Engine Oil Viscosity Grades are on a different scale. The video actually has nothing to do g to do with whether you can or should put gear oil in an engine. It’s all about using interesting/shocking actions/ideas to get people to learn.
Watch the full 13 minute video and you’ll understand 😉: th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M1JVMEODyirmYOcf
For Science!
Thats crazy who would have thought you can replace oil with different oil.
I think you missed the point of the video. Watch the full video and learn 😉: th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=D936eKuhG8AHWYwa
Now fill the motor with Lucas oil
Broke the engine in with Lucas SAE30 Break-In Oil 🤷🏻♂️
@@freedomworx oh my bad I meant like the heavy oil stabilizer stuff you can get at the parts store
@@freedomworx that stuff is thick as hell
@@ryangroom2959 yeah, Lucas oil stabilizer is thicker than most gear oils. 👍
What did you think was going to happen?
I knew nothing would happen. Because I know that the viscosity of this 74W-85 gear oil is less than the viscosity of the engine oil that is already in the engine. But 12 out of 10 people don't know that. Did you? Because that was the point of the video. th-cam.com/video/Gcfr9kEr4FA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2AeCMhceqYZrj0RV
No
It’s not really about putting gear oil in your engine. It’s showing that gear oil viscosities are on a different scales. This 75W-85 gear oil is thinner than 15W-40 engine oil.
I ran 85w140 in my toyota truck cause it burned so much oil lol
Do Toyota trucks even need oil?
@freedomworx when they burn a gallon of 10w30 a week they do lol
😂
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Well that's mildly offensive.
Pretty basic
So you already knew the viscosity scales were different? Very few people know that.
20 w50 is thicker than 75w85 in the viscosity there's a 30w difference vs 10w difference in gear oil.
Im not following your math 🤷🏻♂️
Try using 140 weight gear oil, 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ll pass. My oil pump shaft might protest 😉