Is it just me or do others feel sorry for the way this machine has been treated and feel happy it is now being treated with love and respect. It's enough to make a grown Man cry.
Watching you use a file correctly took me back 60 years to my metal work class at school. Like most kids I hated it at the time but the skills have been useful ever since. You are really giving that abused clapper a birthday - nice work from the UK.
I agree with you Adam a lot of folks do not understand filing, the back stroke is a none pressure applied only cutting on the forward stroke. When the file is sideways it is knon as draw filing.
Brilliant this channel, it’s like David Attenborough for engineering people. I’m discovering new things every time, the explanations cover every aspect and the camera work is always perfect. The work looks fantastic too, much thanks and appreciation from Scotland.
Just noticed the soft music in the background while filing. Don't know if you have done that on any of your machining videos before but great addition! Kind of adds to the relaxation of filing and just getting lost into your work. Keep up the awesome work!
That Clapper Box Is A Thing Of Beauty , Even With Its Scars ,Because Of Its Scars , I Truly Love To See Hand Filing , Almost A Lost Art ! Your Score Is A + +
Hi Adam, the clapper is repaired by letting in a chunk of cast iron into one side of the clapper and scraping it back in to fit. That's what my pal advised me. He spent his time rebuilding planers and large shapers in production shops around Manchester. His view was try to achieve less than 0.0003 fit.
Enjoyed watching the gentle side of Abom. Could have put it on a mill, but instead showing your care of preservation for this old machine, and passion for your field of work, gently worked at each part, bringing it to your desired state. Nice work, I was never bored with watching the attention you gave to bringing that old machine back to life!
Hi Adam, what a nice clean up! Iron sure does look pretty when the proper amounts of skill, attitude, and a good file are put to the task! Not boring at all, the results are amazing!! Keep at it!!!
i probably comment this on every video... your calm, methodical approach is a lesson to all of us. even when the chip "got you mad" you still maintain your calm soothing demeanor and just work through the problem step by step.
learned many years ago from someone i forgot is that the sharpest part of a file even an old one is the first inch or so at the end away from the handle, this part almost never gets used. thanks for the video
Not just a machinist .. a true craftsman. Watching the file work with your choice of background music was sych an incredible experience. Thank you for those moments ... i almost felt like i was intruding into a moment between a man and his machine :)
I have never used machines like these I have no idea what the part does... but I really enjoy watching someone bring it back to life and use it again...so from the uk thank you and keep putting these great blogs out I'm addicted..
The attention to detail(s) is what's so great about your video's. Your care, your passion shine's through. Great video. No way, am I every going to be using (pushing) a drill bit that big. Leave that for you Adam. Abom size.
Great job on the clapper box. She still has a few scars but she's earned them! Don't want to make it look brand new! Great video of the drilling operation...love those chips!
You still might want to consider making a new clapper box (assuming you have some scrap stock big enough); looks like a project that can keep you busy for a few SNS episodes! 😎 That, and you’d have a brand, spanking new clapper box for your shaper! You can always keep the original as a spare.
Thanks for the instruction on the planer gage as an adjustable parallel. I had no idea. I think the way that box was beat on tells you a lot about the quality of the man that used it. There are ways to do things without beating the stuffing out of it. Seems there are few craftsmen, a lot of marginal to decent workers, and few that should only use brooms in machine shops.... I really like what you are doing with this machine.
ive always enjoyed the satisfaction hand filing, grinding, honing and sharpening gives me. something about it. hands might cramp after while but theres just something about it very gratifying to me.
Those chips from the 3 7/8" drill sound like they'd make a nice wind chime. A friend's five year old daughter was visiting yesterday, and we always try to do something in the machine shop together when she's over. The highlight of yesterday was the "fairy chimes" sound made when I sprinkled a handful of 6061 milling chips on the floor. I think she'd love to hear the chips coming off your G&E shaper.
When I watch you hand file and lap parts I know some folks are thinking OCD. I know it's relaxing and I also do some otherwise menial, labor intensive things I think of as Craftsmanship. Keep it up and you'll make a good steam locomotive mechanic.
Adam, you could grind or hand scrape the clapper box true but somewhat over size then use your flame spray capability to build up the clapper then have it ground to fit. Craig
I'm a bit late to the party but for future information there are ways to refit the clapper/clapper box without having to risk warping from the heat of welding. There are many plating options out there that is suitable for this application. There are even plating options that has high hardness and low friction properties. I work on plastic injection molds and when our tools start getting worn and tolerances and fitments are too much we will have parts plated and refit. Typically we use nickel plating for most applications but when we only want to add a couple thousands or less we'll have the part flash chromed. And we don't normally have to machine the part after flash chroming it. Just stick it back into the mold and run it.
This is another reason I think sets you apart from the pack. Its not enough for the machine to do a good job. It has to look good doing it. My 35 year old Rockwell router looks as good as my new Porter Cable. There is no reason for a tool to look like a piece of junk. Just lack of respect. Your tools and work environment say a lot about your character. I would easily trust that your jobs would be top notch. Even if I hadn't watched all your videos. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce great content and entertaining videos. Your doing a great job on editing also.
Hey Adam, nice work on the clapper box. My tool slide on my 16" G&E is only 4 1/2" wide so I made my clapper box 4" wide (it did not have one when on got it). But after seeing a close up of yours I should have made the clapper part a little thicker, the clapper is only 3/4" thick. Glad the bit got to make some chips. Thanks for showing it. Buddy
watching the clapper box getting worked on was fun, but the pictures and footage of the drill in ductile iron were my favorite parts. simply because i thought the chips that were produced looked beautiful the way they piled up and such :) thanks for sharing Abom :)
It was difficult to see (on camera?) how beat up it was until you started smoothing it out. That really brought out the contrast of high and low spots. Then watching you smooth them out...butter.
Man Adam I really wish you would have showed more of that 3 7/8 bit plunging into that cast!!! That was an awesome and mesmerizing shot!!! Damn good vijeo once again!!! Off to part 2!!
Sitting here waiting on this. Caught it on the first notification. Luv ‘em all; grilling also. Eric, The BBQ guy from Tennessee PS: still have three phase panels with your name on them
I saw a very interesting method of filing corners round on an overseas site. The way they teach apprentices is to start with the file on the far side of the work, then while moving the file away, you start on the far side of the cut and move the contact point toward yourself while moving the handle down and the tip upward. I have always started near and moved the contact away. The new way works better for me!
+ Toby W: This is the way I was taught in the early 60’s, one of the first things as an apprentice, place the tip of the file on the work and rotate the file handle downward as you push the file forward so the rotation of the file is counter to the cut on the work piece, I have always done it this way and it is much faster and more accurate than trying to follow the contour of the piece you are working on.
A cool little project and video idea would be to make a clapper and clapper box from scratch. Put it aside as a second spare or even use as a primary if it's good enough.
An option to letting in a fresh piece of iron into the box would be to flat knurl one side of the clapper, and fit it to what you have. Should be able to get the fit to a thou or a bit less fairly easily. Great job, and love the editing.
nice job with cleaning up the clapper box. That drill cut great. I will assume you would only use that on softer material. Certainly saves some time if you need a hole that large to machine from.
Adam, you are doing a wonderful job reconditioning this old machine. It is shocking to me to see that a hammer was used on any part of the machine. Such an action in the shop where I worked with have resulted in summary execution....and justifiably so! Eric
It appears, from the condition of the shaper, that some people still operate bush mechanic's rules - When in doubt, get a bigger hammer and give it another whack. Great videos, thank you.
Maybe that clapper box can be fixed up with something like Turcite/Moglice or something. If it can, that would be some good video seeing you learn the process.
You MAY know this but just in case you dont when you use the surface plate to lap you should go in a figure eight to properly lap a piece.I really enjoy your vids Adam, good job.
Self taught and hobby machinests now know why machinist appreticeships start with weeks of filework. This is also an ancient technique of precision metal shaping
Random rant Adam, your work is awesome. I was the lead Metrlogist aboard the USS Carl Vinson from 2011 to 2013. The Nuke guys (nuclear reactor) were a pain in the ass, OOh we a re running a nuclear reactor our measurements are the best. My response is that boats (ships) do not fall out of the sky! Airplanes do! So cal labs on AC Carriers are run by (avionics technicians) AT's. Yes that is me. Avionics Technician Chief Petty Officer, Lead Metrlogist (retired now) on the USS Carl Vinson. It was fun but, the pace of the deployments now are insane. No one will want to stay in the Navy now. It makes me feel sad.
@@SynchroScore True, but his comment had nothing to do with the video. It was just an excuse for him to talk about himself and brag a little bit about the past. And a chance to throw some politics in there at the end.
Nice lapping plate. I got hold of a section of marble kitchen top (off Ebay) to do the same job. I just double sided stick sheets of emery (240,400,800,1200) and it makes a nice flat surface to hand lap pieces of work.
Turkite to line the clapper box maybe? How would you go about sharpening a drill bit that big so it was even? Thanks for the great video. You could stack all the chips from the drill and make a pretty flower.....
Man you so so Rock! I have learned so much from you.... Your hands have that....touch. watching you with a Nickelson file is art. I salute you ps -I love your taste in music, barbecue... and women :)
Adam, Could you mill out the interior of the clapper-box and epoxy a turcite wear surface? You could scrap that in for a perfect fit and replace when it wears down.
It is a shame that there are people that run machine tools that don't have "it". When they screw up, their answer is to beat the tooling with a hammer. A hard hammer. No finesse. The machine tool only does what you tell it to do. If you don't know what to "say" to the machine tool, then you have no business running one. Thanks Adam for your videos. You have "IT"!! :-)
Just a thought, but the shaper that I used back in high school machine shop had a retrofit gib on one side that ran in a groove. It was about .750" wide and could be adjusted as needed to remove all of the side clearance.
Is it just me or do others feel sorry for the way this machine has been treated and feel happy it is now being treated with love and respect. It's enough to make a grown Man cry.
Watching you use a file correctly took me back 60 years to my metal work class at school. Like most kids I hated it at the time but the skills have been useful ever since. You are really giving that abused clapper a birthday - nice work from the UK.
Eric McRae he shouldn’t be back dragging the file so much but other than that yes.
I'm using my files just the way they were intended.
I agree with you Adam a lot of folks do not understand filing, the back stroke is a none pressure applied only cutting on the forward stroke. When the file is sideways it is knon as draw filing.
I like the music during filing ,nice touch!
Brilliant this channel, it’s like David Attenborough for engineering people. I’m discovering new things every time, the explanations cover every aspect and the camera work is always perfect.
The work looks fantastic too, much thanks and appreciation from Scotland.
Just noticed the soft music in the background while filing. Don't know if you have done that on any of your machining videos before but great addition! Kind of adds to the relaxation of filing and just getting lost into your work. Keep up the awesome work!
That shaper could not have found a better home Adam. Another great video!
That Clapper Box Is A Thing Of Beauty , Even With Its Scars ,Because Of Its Scars , I Truly Love To See Hand Filing , Almost A Lost Art ! Your Score Is A + +
Really enjoyed this. Your videos are like therapy. It's really relaxing to watch you work. Thanks so much, Adam.
You know life is good when you can organise your work around the days' barbeques.
Respect from Russia, спасибо за интересные видео)
Seeing that big drill bit cut was the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. Love seeing the oddball tools being used.
Hi Adam, the clapper is repaired by letting in a chunk of cast iron into one side of the clapper and scraping it back in to fit. That's what my pal advised me. He spent his time rebuilding planers and large shapers in production shops around Manchester. His view was try to achieve less than 0.0003 fit.
Enjoyed watching the gentle side of Abom. Could have put it on a mill, but instead showing your care of preservation for this old machine, and passion for your field of work, gently worked at each part, bringing it to your desired state. Nice work, I was never bored with watching the attention you gave to bringing that old machine back to life!
Hi Adam, what a nice clean up! Iron sure does look pretty when the proper amounts of skill, attitude, and a good file are put to the task! Not boring at all, the results are amazing!! Keep at it!!!
i probably comment this on every video... your calm, methodical approach is a lesson to all of us. even when the chip "got you mad" you still maintain your calm soothing demeanor and just work through the problem step by step.
I don't get how people can bash a machine like that. love the love your putting into it Adam.
learned many years ago from someone i forgot is that the sharpest part of a file even an old one is the first inch or so at the end away from the handle, this part almost never gets used. thanks for the video
Not just a machinist .. a true craftsman. Watching the file work with your choice of background music was sych an incredible experience. Thank you for those moments ... i almost felt like i was intruding into a moment between a man and his machine :)
I have never used machines like these I have no idea what the part does... but I really enjoy watching someone bring it back to life and use it again...so from the uk thank you and keep putting these great blogs out I'm addicted..
No lack of effort here, great stuff Adam, I always learn something when you’re in the shop, thanks
I imagine that shaper is like a happy little rescue dog now that it's in your hands.
Nice work on the clapper box. I have never done filing like that, but always enjoy seeing Tom Lipton do it. Love the 3.875" drill!
We always seem to fall back on our basic skills,good job !
The attention to detail(s) is what's so great about your video's. Your care, your passion shine's through. Great video. No way, am I every going to be using (pushing) a drill bit that big. Leave that for you Adam. Abom size.
It's so good to see a true "fitter" at work using files!
I had tears in my eyes watching the Setco Ad. I don't usually watch Ads. They appear to be really good. You, too, Adam!
Great job on the clapper box. She still has a few scars but she's earned them! Don't want to make it look brand new! Great video of the drilling operation...love those chips!
This filing and stoning is some next level asmr.
Watching that hand filing with lights at correct angle for showing surface texture after each pass just melts any stress away.
Watching that big drill eat iron was amazing!!
So much filing I thought I was watching an Oxtools video! Hi Tom!
You still might want to consider making a new clapper box (assuming you have some scrap stock big enough); looks like a project that can keep you busy for a few SNS episodes! 😎 That, and you’d have a brand, spanking new clapper box for your shaper! You can always keep the original as a spare.
You are one of the most skilled meachines I have ever seen
Definition of hand filing: Labor of LOVE.
Damn that planer guage is an awesome tool and seeing draw filing takes me back to my apprenticeship..
Thanks for the instruction on the planer gage as an adjustable parallel. I had no idea.
I think the way that box was beat on tells you a lot about the quality of the man that used it. There are ways to do things without beating the stuffing out of it. Seems there are few craftsmen, a lot of marginal to decent workers, and few that should only use brooms in machine shops....
I really like what you are doing with this machine.
i guess it was run by the employees, they have no reason to look after it, just to get the job done
so awesome to see those big chips on that epic huge bit ! Clapper box is looks SWEET ! Enjoyed Adam ..
ive always enjoyed the satisfaction hand filing, grinding, honing and sharpening gives me. something about it. hands might cramp after while but theres just something about it very gratifying to me.
Those chips from the 3 7/8" drill sound like they'd make a nice wind chime. A friend's five year old daughter was visiting yesterday, and we always try to do something in the machine shop together when she's over. The highlight of yesterday was the "fairy chimes" sound made when I sprinkled a handful of 6061 milling chips on the floor. I think she'd love to hear the chips coming off your G&E shaper.
Never thought i would be so entertained by watching a bit of filing.
Nice job Adam.
When I watch you hand file and lap parts I know some folks are thinking OCD. I know it's relaxing and I also do some otherwise menial, labor intensive things I think of as Craftsmanship. Keep it up and you'll make a good steam locomotive mechanic.
I too love that kind of work, it seems I always have.
Please make a video of that monstrous drill bit getting sharpened!
Adam - making a new grabber plate might be a nice project for the shaper.
Thoroughly enjoyed the video, as always. Many thanks!
All the Best
Adrian
You sir are a true machining artisan. I smashed the like button for this video. Thank you!
Adam you are a hero! Toni from germany
Adam, music is ok, I dig it ! Very relaxing. Thanks, Cliff
The sections you had of you working just with music as backing were very enjoyable. Keep it up!
Glad to see you finally using those files.
Adam, you could grind or hand scrape the clapper box true but somewhat over size then use your flame spray capability to build up the clapper then have it ground to fit.
Craig
You do fine work brother. My respects for you once more time.
Very satisfying to watch that thing come back to life.
I'm a bit late to the party but for future information there are ways to refit the clapper/clapper box without having to risk warping from the heat of welding. There are many plating options out there that is suitable for this application. There are even plating options that has high hardness and low friction properties.
I work on plastic injection molds and when our tools start getting worn and tolerances and fitments are too much we will have parts plated and refit. Typically we use nickel plating for most applications but when we only want to add a couple thousands or less we'll have the part flash chromed. And we don't normally have to machine the part after flash chroming it. Just stick it back into the mold and run it.
This is another reason I think sets you apart from the pack. Its not enough for the machine to do a good job. It has to look good doing it. My 35 year old Rockwell router looks as good as my new Porter Cable. There is no reason for a tool to look like a piece of junk. Just lack of respect. Your tools and work environment say a lot about your character. I would easily trust that your jobs would be top notch. Even if I hadn't watched all your videos. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce great content and entertaining videos. Your doing a great job on editing also.
That abom size drill’s chips look really beautiful.thanks for another great video adam
Hey Adam, nice work on the clapper box. My tool slide on my 16" G&E is only 4 1/2" wide so I made my clapper box 4" wide (it did not have one when on got it). But after seeing a close up of yours I should have made the clapper part a little thicker, the clapper is only 3/4" thick. Glad the bit got to make some chips. Thanks for showing it.
Buddy
watching the clapper box getting worked on was fun, but the pictures and footage of the drill in ductile iron were my favorite parts. simply because i thought the chips that were produced looked beautiful the way they piled up and such :) thanks for sharing Abom :)
Thanks for showing the planner shaper gauge usage. I always wondered how they were used
awesome job love you choice of music during the filing and always at the end
It was difficult to see (on camera?) how beat up it was until you started smoothing it out.
That really brought out the contrast of high and low spots.
Then watching you smooth them out...butter.
Man Adam I really wish you would have showed more of that 3 7/8 bit plunging into that cast!!! That was an awesome and mesmerizing shot!!! Damn good vijeo once again!!! Off to part 2!!
Ladies and Gentlemen, what Adam is doing is the definition of Tenacity. Gorgeous. And flat. Slim and flat. Very nice.
That is one heck of a material removal rate on that drill!
Love those spiral chips. Could glue some together as a flower for the lady :)
GREAT VIDEO !!! EVEN A LEAD HAMMER WILL PUT THOSE DINGS IN , OVER TIME .
Great video! Really professional production. Really enjoyed it.
Adam you never do anything halfassed! Right on buddy
Sitting here waiting on this. Caught it on the first notification. Luv ‘em all; grilling also.
Eric,
The BBQ guy from Tennessee
PS: still have three phase panels with your name on them
Nice work Adam, that's one hell of a hole maker
I loved this new style of video. Good work as always.
The drill bit footage looked like a swarm of hornets coming out to defend the hive. Beautiful chips!!
There is always Turcite or Rulon if you need to tighten the clapper... would make a great video showing what you learned in Richard's scraping class!
I saw a very interesting method of filing corners round on an overseas site. The way they teach apprentices is to start with the file on the far side of the work, then while moving the file away, you start on the far side of the cut and move the contact point toward yourself while moving the handle down and the tip upward. I have always started near and moved the contact away. The new way works better for me!
The way you describe is the way I was taught 60 years ago. Still doing it now.
Its the way i was taught too
+ Toby W: This is the way I was taught in the early 60’s, one of the first things as an apprentice, place the tip of the file on the work and rotate the file handle downward as you push the file forward so the rotation of the file is counter to the cut on the work piece, I have always done it this way and it is much faster and more accurate than trying to follow the contour of the piece you are working on.
A cool little project and video idea would be to make a clapper and clapper box from scratch. Put it aside as a second spare or even use as a primary if it's good enough.
Those chips/shavings would make great Christmas tree decorations. :P
At last someone using a file correctly, cheers, Andy
An option to letting in a fresh piece of iron into the box would be to flat knurl one side of the clapper, and fit it to what you have. Should be able to get the fit to a thou or a bit less fairly easily.
Great job, and love the editing.
nice job with cleaning up the clapper box. That drill cut great. I will assume you would only use that on softer material. Certainly saves some time if you need a hole that large to machine from.
I would try a little torch heat straightening action on that box to tighten it up.
Adam, you are doing a wonderful job reconditioning this old machine. It is shocking to me to see that a hammer was used on any part of the machine. Such an action in the shop where I worked with have resulted in summary execution....and justifiably so!
Eric
I would like to see you build that clapper up with welding, machining it down and then scraping it for a final finish to bring it to "as new".
It appears, from the condition of the shaper, that some people still operate bush mechanic's rules - When in doubt, get a bigger hammer and give it another whack. Great videos, thank you.
Maybe that clapper box can be fixed up with something like Turcite/Moglice or something. If it can, that would be some good video seeing you learn the process.
I call filing putting on some Liptonite.
I loved the 'chips' coming off the drill! Also i now know what 'clapped out' means...
You MAY know this but just in case you dont when you use the surface plate to lap you should go in a figure eight to properly lap a piece.I really enjoy your vids Adam, good job.
All this draw filing, feels like Clickspring in here :)
That was quality to me, just made the career change to Machinist. Thanks and Respect..
Fantastic job Adam.
Self taught and hobby machinests now know why machinist appreticeships start with weeks of filework. This is also an ancient technique of precision metal shaping
I always thought those 599s were sexy as hell... but didn't know how they were used. Thanks! Now I can justify buying one... ;)
Random rant Adam, your work is awesome. I was the lead Metrlogist aboard the USS Carl Vinson from 2011 to 2013. The Nuke guys (nuclear reactor) were a pain in the ass, OOh we a re running a nuclear reactor our measurements are the best. My response is that boats (ships) do not fall out of the sky! Airplanes do! So cal labs on AC Carriers are run by (avionics technicians) AT's. Yes that is me. Avionics Technician Chief Petty Officer, Lead Metrlogist (retired now) on the USS Carl Vinson. It was fun but, the pace of the deployments now are insane. No one will want to stay in the Navy now. It makes me feel sad.
Dale Subic What did that have to do with this video?
@@rodeo11 Aircraft carriers have machine shops.
@@SynchroScore True, but his comment had nothing to do with the video. It was just an excuse for him to talk about himself and brag a little bit about the past. And a chance to throw some politics in there at the end.
Nice lapping plate. I got hold of a section of marble kitchen top (off Ebay) to do the same job. I just double sided stick sheets of emery (240,400,800,1200) and it makes a nice flat surface to hand lap pieces of work.
Turkite to line the clapper box maybe? How would you go about sharpening a drill bit that big so it was even? Thanks for the great video. You could stack all the chips from the drill and make a pretty flower.....
Man you so so Rock! I have learned so much from you.... Your hands have that....touch. watching you with a Nickelson file is art. I salute you ps -I love your taste in music, barbecue... and women :)
i wonder if you could shave out a 1/8 on either side of the clapper of the box and install some brass wear plates you could swap out.
Seems like the chips from that bit could be used for some type of project art work like resin casting or something.
Adam, Could you mill out the interior of the clapper-box and epoxy a turcite wear surface? You could scrap that in for a perfect fit and replace when it wears down.
It is a shame that there are people that run machine tools that don't have "it". When they screw up, their answer is to beat the tooling with a hammer. A hard hammer. No finesse. The machine tool only does what you tell it to do. If you don't know what to "say" to the machine tool, then you have no business running one. Thanks Adam for your videos. You have "IT"!! :-)
Just a thought, but the shaper that I used back in high school machine shop had a retrofit gib on one side that ran in a groove. It was about .750" wide and could be adjusted as needed to remove all of the side clearance.