Skin Tones Light Tones: Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Fur Brown Pro Acryl - Shadow Flesh Pro Acryl - Beige Red Pro Acryl - Dark Warm Flesh Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Topaz Skin Pro Acryl - Bright Shadow Flesh Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Violent Vermillion AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Green Grey Pro Acryl - Faded Green Dark Tones: Pro Acryl - Brown Grey Pro Acryl - Warm Brown Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Bootstrap Brown Pro Acryl - Dark Warm Flesh Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Fur Brown AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Green Grey Toning: Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Peachy Flesh Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Aged Hide Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Goddess Glow Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Crusader Skin Universal Highlights and Shadows Highlights: Pro Acryl - Bright Pale Yellow AK - 3rd Gen - Ice Yellow Pro Acryl - White Blue AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Peach AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Green AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Violet Shadow: Pro Acryl - Payne's Grey Pro Acryl - Dark Flesh AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Anthracite AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Tenebrous Grey Bright Colours
Fluorescents: Golden - High Flow Acrylics - Fluorescent Pink Golden - High Flow Acrylics - Fluorescent Orange Pro Acryl - Fluorescent Orange Turquoises: Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Hydra Turquoise Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Turquoise Siren Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Marine Mist Pro Acryl - Dark Turquoise Magenta: AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Violet Red Pro Acryl - Dark Magenta Pro Acryl - Dark Hot Pink Kimera Kolors - Magenta Atom Color - Magenta AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Old Rose Reds: Pro Acryl - Burnt Red Atom Color - Red Golden - SoFLAT Matte Acrylic - Pyrolle Red AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Peach Golden - High Flow Acrylics - Fluorescent Orange Purple (more violet): Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Terrestial Titan Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Alien Purple White and Offwhite Tones Pro Acryl - Red Grey Pro Acryl - Dark Ivory Pro Acryl - Bright Ivory AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Buff AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Reddish Grey AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Ivory Pro Acryl - Heavy Warm White Metallics Steel: Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.711 Magnesium Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.724 Silver Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.704 Pale Burnt Metal Gold: Still uses custom gold mix: Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.725 Gold (3 drops) Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.710 Copper (2 drops) Green Stuff World - Pure Metal Pigments - Antique Gold (1/128th Tablespoon) Bronze: Pro Acryl - Dark Bronze
The segment on flesh tones made me so mad I had to pause and walk away from my computer for a bit and I extend my deepest , most sincere gratitude to you for it. Since I started dabbling in this hobby I have hated just about every flesh tone I have come across, usually because to me they were far too pink. When you pulled out the light muted green I had my light bulb moment and subsequent frustration at myself for not having realized this sooner because it is pretty much the same color green you find in a color correction wheel for makeup. This is a bit of color theory I have been playing with for over 20 years thanks to my time doing theater throughout high school and all the way through a bachelors. Why I hadn't translated the principle from makeup to paint is beyond me. I also loved the bit about adding depth to flesh, once again a concept I know from stage makeup because it is how you make prosthetics look natural.
Seriously. Heard his name alot while getting into the hobby again and I slowly started to understand why he is such a blessing to this community. Vince seriously has helped me immensely. Got nothing but respect for vince
As someone who doesn’t have 1200 paints, I’ve started to really appreciate the Army Painter Fanatic range because of how easy it is to buy one and be confident what color it will be or better yet, buy 2-3 and be confident they’ll make a great transition. The names and bottle colors accurately represent the real color and they’re organised into really logical groups. Say you wanted 3 blue-greens ranging from dark to light, it’s so easy to go to that range and pick 3, deciding how harsh a transition you want between each. All that said, for speciality paints like gold and fluo, I’ve gone Pro Acrl. They seem to be the best of the best!
17:35 I agree that it is strange that we don't have many hobby brands making good violets, while we have a very popular pure violet pigment in PV23. Popular as in it's used widely by artist brands, in blends as well as in pure pigment paints.
Mine are Vallejo 2nd gen, Duncan Rhodes, Pro Acryl and TTCombat. Vallejo really cleaned up the issues with the old paints looking dated next to the modern paints just like Army painter and Ak interactive did, they were just a bit behind.
Paynes Grey is without doubt a must have in your arsenal no matter what range. Perfect shade of Grey, heaps of applications, can throw it in pretty much literally anything. For NMM dark steel to silver it's a god send.
I live in germany and Pro Acryl is pricey here. Army Painter is easily available, but I dont like their saturation. To me AK3rd is really great (I love that pastel set and the Jose Davinci signature set), but I use Vallejo New Game/Model Color the most. Its just the best bang for your buck where I live, plus I find their Xpress Colors to be more versatile than other companies inky paints. It is really great that we have so many options today. I am also quite interested in the new P3 paints, because I like satin finishes usually more than matte ones
I have all ProAcryl (except Nova Orange!) & many AK & some new Army Painter. My cat's vet visit broke my budget, but she is doing great and I have enough, but I might grab 1 bottle as that AK Tenebrous gray purple sounds intriguing!
Scalecolor petroleum grey accomplishes a similar effect but with a rich bronze-like cast rather than purplish. It gives 'black' a warm chromatic hue rather than cool.
Thank you for this video I started following when you started the new rat boyos off and I like the challenge against Jon. I been painting for about 6 years and I'm stuck in the citadel paint method and I really want to step away so this video is helpful of where to start with or what to look at. Cheers Vince, hope everyone here had a great weekend
Love that Dark bronze! Goes on every world eater I paint! Magnesium from the adepticon set gets alot of use too. I know some don't like it but I do alot.
Fantastic summary, great to hear the explanation of why these colours are so useful. I’d be really interested to hear more about the influence of light and temperature on shadows/highlights in the future.
I need to get into pro acryl because I am color blind and their clear labels are so easy to understand unlike most other companies like troll feces or barbarian body as paint names
Warpaints Fanatic also provide a more standard color name on their bottles in addition to the goofy fantasy name if ProAcryl ends up being hard to get in your area
Mr Venturella, I was sorry to miss you at Nova this year, but plan on taking one of your classes next year! Great to see some of my favorite paints making their way into your list. I lean on anthracite and tenebrous. Thanks again
I loooove how much detail you put on each and every of your videos, the time and effort for this free content; moreover, I do think that many forget about the hobby and create some sort of FOMO on which paints you get... I start with the old army painter Mega set; and quickly realize how bad they are by using their yellow, so Ive got an starter set from Citadel (with one space marine and a necron), and hate the pot type of container, and start to get my VMC which at the end serve my propose of occasional painter! As always, amazing content and thanks again for keep sharing the like of doing something the most of us are not good enough but enjoy like if we are the best of! :)
Love to see Tenebrous Grey getting some attention. I always seem to find somewhere to use it on everything I paint and as the purple in it is very subtle and desaturated it's the sort of paint that I'm glad to have on hand as I doubt it would be trivial to mix it myself.
I migrated from using Citidel paints to using Pro Acryl and I haven't looked back. Sure, every once in a blue moon I'll use some citidel paints but if I can just stick with Monument I will.. I too have a bit of an obsession when it comes to buying paints.. granted, I don't have as many as you do but I think I'm sitting close to half. I've been eyeing the new Fanatic line by Army Painter and I am so curious to try them. Maybe I'll buy a couple singles just to dip my toe.. that or one of the smaller bundles. Thank for sharing.. always enjoy your videos!
I'm glad you kinda validated my decision to buy the complete AP Fanatic paints. Tbh I had a little bit of buyer's remorse because I found them to be not as vibrant as I would like. But I came to the realization that I can just complement them with a small selection of ProAcryl to get the results that I want. Appreciate you as always, Vince.
Great Vid Vince. I went with the AK Amethyst Blue and Blue Violet a couple paint runs ago for those deeper violets, but those fanatic purples you demonstrated looked outstanding.
It's probably more of a pain than most people would care for to reach for a tube of acrylic paint, but I really love Scale75's Artist Color Vanilla Yellow and Vanilla White for universal warm highlights, especially if I'm just ready to be done and only want to drybrush a bit.
Very informative video! When I quit Warhammer in 2006 the only mini paints I knew about was Citadel and Vallejo Game Colour and now that I'm painting again it's kind of overwhelming with how many brands and types are now available so videos like this helps me understand which brands and types are good for different effects and applications.
The journey to finding "your" colors is a fantastic journey. My journey with the acrylics is close to yours. My most favorite ones are AK 3rd Gen., Scale 75 or Kimera. But I haven't tried a lot of other interesting paint brands like pro acryl. What I found is, that all those paints are wonderful but lack the color vibrancy that oil artist paints can offer. I more and more try to learn how to use the oils and enjoy the new journey immensely. I would be interested in your opinion on using oils.
Im brought back to this video as I need to reavulauate the paints I have. Been going through them marking them red amber and green as to whether they are useless, useable and a must have. Ideally every paint should be in the green category for me. Instead of buying a complete set I think I will need to buy from different sets and replace a lot of the colours. When I stopped painting I was having a lot of frustration with the quality of the paint and I want to be able to paint without frustration so Im tackling this problem on the head. Im not convinced buying whole sets work. It great if you have the money and space for sure.
15:33 this Burnt Red probably covers well, because it contains a lot of red oxide pigment, which is pretty opaque especially compared to any other red pigment. Mix in another red pigment with good staining qualities and you got yourself a burnt red/hull red or whatever the hobby brand decides to call it.
@@thinkabouthelogic Jason from Pro Acryl ones told me that they try to use the least amount of pigments per paints, so it's likey that the Red Oxide from Pro Acryl only contains PR101, which would make it ideal for mixing. I have multiple red oxides, but not Pro Acryl's one, so can't compare swatches to check. Either way, let me now how your fiddling went!
One Question: Assuming a new painter asks you for paint recommendations, would you stick with a single brand like AK, Pro Acryl or Warpaint Fanatics so that the barrier of learning different behaviors is reduced, or do you go straight up for the "best" like you recommended here?
Thanks for the knowledge. Always helpful in how you explain the why behind the paint choices and not just the name and how you have multiple brands that do similar things for you. Maybe an addendum of the bottles you have had to replace most often?
Yes absolutely for Tenebrous grey. Nightshade purple from Reaper MSP is also perfect as a shadow color. No one uses Reaper anymore… they’re so underrated.
Thanks for this! The only color you didn't discuss much that I feel strongly about is yellow. I've recently fallen down the artist paint rabbit hole and bought myself a cadmium-free "Cadmium Yellow," and the tinting strength is miles apart from any other yellow I've worked with. If you like mixing paint and are a green or orange enjoyer such as myself, there isn't any other yellow I'd choose to use.
Im fascinatingly close to this with a lot of pro acryl and Ak 3rd gen - guess I need to check out AP Fanatic! Also I started painting back in the pandemic, and it never occurred to me that my bottles of VMC were a "cursed" generation - I had thought the splitting was just par for the course and perfect metal paints were out of reach! I will have to see if I can get my hands on the new stuff
At this point I’m convinced Vince could make a Skaven army look good with paint bought at Sherwin Williams, and using a spork as his brush. Never in my wildest dream would I have thought to use green on skin tones, but yet again I’m schooled. I’ll just cry in a corner now
I was thinking those RoseArt paints... I also think he may have undersold talent a bit here, since I have an embarrassing amount of the PA paints and yet my miniatures look like a 3rd grader worked on them for 2 hours, got bored, and went to the playground.
I've got to give a shout out to the Golden SoFlat Dioxazine Violet Deep. I reached out to Golden and they recommend that if I wanted to use it with the airbrush I use their OPEN thinner instead of the regular thinner. For anyone looking for a rich, dark purple, you've gotta try the SoFlat.
I basically only use AK 3rd gen and the new formulation Vallejo paints. Then some random ones off citadel colors, like thunderhawk blue, or now the ap fanatic stuff
Two things : 1/ I'm a beginner and I'm about to buy some paints to start the hobby journey, but struggle to take a final decision regarding my first set (AP Fanatic, Vallejo game color ? Model ?...) So, thank you for this pretty relevant video to say the least. 2/ I notice your wallpaper slides with gorgeous angels everywhere and as a big fan of this esthetic myself I had to acknoledge it :)
@@thinkabouthelogic I'm sorry dude, I just can't find any comment from you under mf2943, are you sure you commented this guy? Could you paste it here? Thank you so much
I wouldn't ever buy a full 'paint set' from any company, especially as a beginner, that said I did con my wife into getting me the Pro Acryl base set for Xmas a couple years ago. If money is no object go for it, but I bet you will only use half of them. I really love the Pro Acryl range, the bottle design is just wrong but the paints are generally amazing. Vallejo Mecha Colour metallics are amazing, along with their metallic black Air paint, super thin airbrush paints but go on amazing with a brush.
I wouldn't get a paint set, just get the colours you need, there will be colours in a set you never even open. Depending on what you are painting, it's unlikely there would be an ideal set unless you really go overkill and spend too much as a beginner.
After watching this video I almost feel like I've been paint "incorrectly" all these years. The concept of universal highlights and shadows makes a huge amount of sense and I feel almost foolish for not considering it previously. I coincidentally purchased many of the Pro-Acryl paints you have recommended when buying some bottles to experiment with. I mainly use Citadel with some heavy investment in Scale 75. I enjoy the variety of colours available but I do find the consistency and the coverage can be a challenge at times or inconsistent depending on the bottle. It's a bit of a shame to see many painters that lauded the range to have moved away from it now but I think that I'll be using it for some time to come. I don't like to just discard paints unless I am really frustrated with it.
I just bought a starter set of paint, some brushes and then more brushes and more paint online and more miniatures, rust-oleum flat primer in gray, black and white and...and...washes and....I've...JUST PUT MY FIRST BLACK PRIMER ON MY FIRST MINI!!!! :) Thank GOD I saw your beginner tutorial as now I'm really going to just take my time and not waste any of the valuable resources, I just spent probably over $350 in total (LOTS of minis :) I'm terrified to start but at least I have my first mini primed and it looks like it sprayed on even, etc. From your tutorial I feel like that shading and lighting is where it gets tricky....maybe I'll paint a little tomorrow but probably will watch more of your videos first. There are so many tutorials that you can get lost and just unfocused so I'm going to stick to your channel like paint to primer...my first miniature painting joke? So my only question is the watering down of the paint. I had no idea you did that. I guess sometimes you do not? Maybe for the eyes? When do you not water down the paint?
Thank you for helpfull video Vince :) youve also solved a problem ive had. I picked up a bottle of the Vallejo metal and despite shaking it up like a crazy man for over ten minutes , its still seperates within moments. I suspect i may of got one of the bad batches you meantioned 😂 shall order another bottle and see if it makes a difference :)
Love these deep dive videos into paints. Love AK paints and Pr Acryl (wish they had more satin finish options) but have to disagree about Fanatics. It’s definitely army painters better attempt at paint but they are goopy and leave a chalky finish. This is just my opinion of course.
14:19 indeed, PR122. PV19 is also used, but compared to the narrow range of PR122, has a wide range of tones (depending on how it is made), ranging from cold red to purple.
@@VinceVenturella thanks, have a couple of new game color paints and think they are a notable improvement over the old ones, just don't have a comparison with the fanatics.
Vince, thanks for the educational video. I checked your video a few times and couldn't find what paints you use for the yellow color. This one is also notoriously hard to achieve. Thanks in advance.
It varies, all the contrasts yellows are good, I like several in the Pro Acryl range as well, I also use some HBA paints. In the end, yellow are easy, but the key is to have it over a bright warm undershade.
Vince, just finished Hobby Advice and it was great! What base colors would you recommend to layer Up to ProAcryl Warm Yellow? Traditionally 'Averland' was the base and not the end so examples I look for are going up to Golden bright yellows where I want it more muted. P.S. it will be with some Burgundy on Bretonnians if they can share to 'cheat' on the buildup? 💖🖌
I love these videos, makes me think I could reduce my collection to 50 odd paints. But instead I spend even more on these suggestions and keep all the old ones 😂 thanks, I think?
6:47 Hey Vince! I’m relatively new to the hobby and the idea of “universal” highlights and shadows is bending my brain just a bit as I usually just work with triads. Obviously there is never a “one rule covers all” situation when it comes to art, but am I understanding correctly that for any part of a mini you want to have a warm highlight you are slowly building/mixing bright pale yellow into the midtone while doing the same with Payne’s gray for the shadows? So for example, for something I want to be blue I would follow something like this for darkest shadows to brightest highlights: Paynes gray Paynes gray with blue Blue Blue with bright pale yellow Blue with even more bright pale yellow? Sorry for the long comment, just want to make sure I’m understanding this! 😁
Skin Tones
Light Tones:
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Fur Brown
Pro Acryl - Shadow Flesh
Pro Acryl - Beige Red
Pro Acryl - Dark Warm Flesh
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Topaz Skin
Pro Acryl - Bright Shadow Flesh
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Violent Vermillion
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Green Grey
Pro Acryl - Faded Green
Dark Tones:
Pro Acryl - Brown Grey
Pro Acryl - Warm Brown
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Bootstrap Brown
Pro Acryl - Dark Warm Flesh
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Fur Brown
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Green Grey
Toning:
Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Peachy Flesh
Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Aged Hide
Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Goddess Glow
Army Painter - Speed Paint 2.0 - Crusader Skin
Universal Highlights and Shadows
Highlights:
Pro Acryl - Bright Pale Yellow
AK - 3rd Gen - Ice Yellow
Pro Acryl - White Blue
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Peach
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Green
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Violet
Shadow:
Pro Acryl - Payne's Grey
Pro Acryl - Dark Flesh
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Anthracite
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Tenebrous Grey
Bright Colours
Fluorescents:
Golden - High Flow Acrylics - Fluorescent Pink
Golden - High Flow Acrylics - Fluorescent Orange
Pro Acryl - Fluorescent Orange
Turquoises:
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Hydra Turquoise
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Turquoise Siren
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Marine Mist
Pro Acryl - Dark Turquoise
Magenta:
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Violet Red
Pro Acryl - Dark Magenta
Pro Acryl - Dark Hot Pink
Kimera Kolors - Magenta
Atom Color - Magenta
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Old Rose
Reds:
Pro Acryl - Burnt Red
Atom Color - Red
Golden - SoFLAT Matte Acrylic - Pyrolle Red
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Pastel Peach
Golden - High Flow Acrylics - Fluorescent Orange
Purple (more violet):
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Terrestial Titan
Army Painter - Warpaints Fanatic - Alien Purple
White and Offwhite Tones
Pro Acryl - Red Grey
Pro Acryl - Dark Ivory
Pro Acryl - Bright Ivory
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Buff
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Reddish Grey
AK Interactive - 3rd Gen - Ivory
Pro Acryl - Heavy Warm White
Metallics
Steel:
Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.711 Magnesium
Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.724 Silver
Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.704 Pale Burnt Metal
Gold:
Still uses custom gold mix:
Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.725 Gold (3 drops)
Vallejo - Metal Color - 77.710 Copper (2 drops)
Green Stuff World - Pure Metal Pigments - Antique Gold (1/128th Tablespoon)
Bronze:
Pro Acryl - Dark Bronze
Not all heroes wear capes. 😀
You absolute hero.
Cheers legend.
Thank you!
Thx bro!
every time Vince uploads a video like this the profits of my local hobby shop spike and my bank account does the opposite
😂😂We should contact others like us to have a watch and shop after Vince’s videos
Monument Hobbies definitely gets more of my money when their paints get mentioned in vids like these.
@@derpstick5467 I am currently on a quest to purchase all their products I love them!
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The man enriches me with his knowledge whilst impoverishing me with his product recommendations.
Rofl 🤣 😂 🤣
Facts. My semi-autistic brain loves him, my wallet hates him.
The segment on flesh tones made me so mad I had to pause and walk away from my computer for a bit and I extend my deepest , most sincere gratitude to you for it. Since I started dabbling in this hobby I have hated just about every flesh tone I have come across, usually because to me they were far too pink. When you pulled out the light muted green I had my light bulb moment and subsequent frustration at myself for not having realized this sooner because it is pretty much the same color green you find in a color correction wheel for makeup. This is a bit of color theory I have been playing with for over 20 years thanks to my time doing theater throughout high school and all the way through a bachelors. Why I hadn't translated the principle from makeup to paint is beyond me. I also loved the bit about adding depth to flesh, once again a concept I know from stage makeup because it is how you make prosthetics look natural.
Vince, you forgot your own Royal purple in your go-to paint list, lol. You are the goat
Seriously. Heard his name alot while getting into the hobby again and I slowly started to understand why he is such a blessing to this community. Vince seriously has helped me immensely. Got nothing but respect for vince
As someone who doesn’t have 1200 paints, I’ve started to really appreciate the Army Painter Fanatic range because of how easy it is to buy one and be confident what color it will be or better yet, buy 2-3 and be confident they’ll make a great transition. The names and bottle colors accurately represent the real color and they’re organised into really logical groups. Say you wanted 3 blue-greens ranging from dark to light, it’s so easy to go to that range and pick 3, deciding how harsh a transition you want between each. All that said, for speciality paints like gold and fluo, I’ve gone Pro Acrl. They seem to be the best of the best!
17:35 I agree that it is strange that we don't have many hobby brands making good violets, while we have a very popular pure violet pigment in PV23. Popular as in it's used widely by artist brands, in blends as well as in pure pigment paints.
You make every Saturday morning just a little better, and always help kick start my weekends of painting. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm a fairly new painter & I'm not trying to spend $5,000 on paints. Thanks again!
Mine are Vallejo 2nd gen, Duncan Rhodes, Pro Acryl and TTCombat. Vallejo really cleaned up the issues with the old paints looking dated next to the modern paints just like Army painter and Ak interactive did, they were just a bit behind.
Thanks!
Thank you, very much apprecaited!
I really appreciate you taking time to make such a detailed walkthrough. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for all the information you share with us
Vince is so amazingly talented. His work is spectacular
Paynes Grey is without doubt a must have in your arsenal no matter what range. Perfect shade of Grey, heaps of applications, can throw it in pretty much literally anything. For NMM dark steel to silver it's a god send.
Glad to catch this. These videos are one of the things I look forward to on Saturday mornings!
I live in germany and Pro Acryl is pricey here. Army Painter is easily available, but I dont like their saturation. To me AK3rd is really great (I love that pastel set and the Jose Davinci signature set), but I use Vallejo New Game/Model Color the most. Its just the best bang for your buck where I live, plus I find their Xpress Colors to be more versatile than other companies inky paints. It is really great that we have so many options today.
I am also quite interested in the new P3 paints, because I like satin finishes usually more than matte ones
Have you tried the new Fanatic Paints that Army Painter released recently? They are 500% better than what they had before.
I have all ProAcryl (except Nova Orange!) & many AK & some new Army Painter. My cat's vet visit broke my budget, but she is doing great and I have enough, but I might grab 1 bottle as that AK Tenebrous gray purple sounds intriguing!
Scalecolor petroleum grey accomplishes a similar effect but with a rich bronze-like cast rather than purplish. It gives 'black' a warm chromatic hue rather than cool.
Thank you for this video I started following when you started the new rat boyos off and I like the challenge against Jon.
I been painting for about 6 years and I'm stuck in the citadel paint method and I really want to step away so this video is helpful of where to start with or what to look at.
Cheers Vince, hope everyone here had a great weekend
I really needed some pants for winter and you suckered me in. Also, I love purple.
Love that Dark bronze! Goes on every world eater I paint! Magnesium from the adepticon set gets alot of use too. I know some don't like it but I do alot.
This was a GREAT overview, and it’s always educational to hear not only which paints but also the WHYs of your choices. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic summary, great to hear the explanation of why these colours are so useful. I’d be really interested to hear more about the influence of light and temperature on shadows/highlights in the future.
I need to get into pro acryl because I am color blind and their clear labels are so easy to understand unlike most other companies like troll feces or barbarian body as paint names
Warpaints Fanatic also provide a more standard color name on their bottles in addition to the goofy fantasy name if ProAcryl ends up being hard to get in your area
Nah, come on. Without looking it up, Troll Feces MUST look similar to British Uniform Green from Vallejo.
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Just bought four of the PA's that I didn't have and you mentioned. Looking forward to trying them out.
Thank you Vince - your videos are always very helpful and teach me something new!
I love a good favourite paints video. Looking forward to finding some new favourites.
I think the Citadel colours are great and thats what I got at my LGS so.. Easy to pick up when i need.
Mr Venturella,
I was sorry to miss you at Nova this year, but plan on taking one of your classes next year! Great to see some of my favorite paints making their way into your list. I lean on anthracite and tenebrous.
Thanks again
I've been waiting for this video, for ages! So glad its here 😁
Excellent video. The red on the Skaven is absolutely beautiful.
Thank you very much!
23:50 if one person can convince Jason, it's you Vince! Mister metallic paint connoisseur himself 😉
I loooove how much detail you put on each and every of your videos, the time and effort for this free content; moreover, I do think that many forget about the hobby and create some sort of FOMO on which paints you get... I start with the old army painter Mega set; and quickly realize how bad they are by using their yellow, so Ive got an starter set from Citadel (with one space marine and a necron), and hate the pot type of container, and start to get my VMC which at the end serve my propose of occasional painter! As always, amazing content and thanks again for keep sharing the like of doing something the most of us are not good enough but enjoy like if we are the best of! :)
I haven’t heard you talk much about the new Vallejo line. Do you like them or just haven’t tried? Thanks!
Watch the Wednesday show. He says that he hasn’t tried them.
Just haven't used them much.
Thanks! You blew my mind a bit with the warm cool hilights !
Awesome, thank you!
Love to see Tenebrous Grey getting some attention. I always seem to find somewhere to use it on everything I paint and as the purple in it is very subtle and desaturated it's the sort of paint that I'm glad to have on hand as I doubt it would be trivial to mix it myself.
I migrated from using Citidel paints to using Pro Acryl and I haven't looked back. Sure, every once in a blue moon I'll use some citidel paints but if I can just stick with Monument I will.. I too have a bit of an obsession when it comes to buying paints.. granted, I don't have as many as you do but I think I'm sitting close to half. I've been eyeing the new Fanatic line by Army Painter and I am so curious to try them. Maybe I'll buy a couple singles just to dip my toe.. that or one of the smaller bundles. Thank for sharing.. always enjoy your videos!
amazing Vin Power Stroke Diesel! amazing coverage and sage wisdom as usual!
I'm glad you kinda validated my decision to buy the complete AP Fanatic paints. Tbh I had a little bit of buyer's remorse because I found them to be not as vibrant as I would like. But I came to the realization that I can just complement them with a small selection of ProAcryl to get the results that I want. Appreciate you as always, Vince.
Nice summary. Waiting to see next year's go-to paints.
Tenebrous gray is one of my favorites as well. AK and ProAcryl are my current paints, with some old P3, and I can’t wait for P3 to come out again.
Thank you very much for sharing your wealth of knowledge in this video, it is really appreciated.
Great video, You're a top notch dude and painter.
Great Vid Vince. I went with the AK Amethyst Blue and Blue Violet a couple paint runs ago for those deeper violets, but those fanatic purples you demonstrated looked outstanding.
Vallejo Mecha colour metallics are amazing too, as is the Metallic Black Air, nice and thin, not thick and gloopy like most metallics
Love those reds on your Skaven! Makes me excited to see what you do with the new Stormvermin.
It's probably more of a pain than most people would care for to reach for a tube of acrylic paint, but I really love Scale75's Artist Color Vanilla Yellow and Vanilla White for universal warm highlights, especially if I'm just ready to be done and only want to drybrush a bit.
Vince is an amazing painter, how I wish I could paint as well as he does. Gold mix? Wow… I missed that
A refresh of one of my favorite videos!
Great video! Lots of cool tips - gonna have to take a few notes and put them on some post its on my desk
Glad it was helpful!
The organisation is so beautiful definitely need to buy more paint now 😂
Very informative video! When I quit Warhammer in 2006 the only mini paints I knew about was Citadel and Vallejo Game Colour and now that I'm painting again it's kind of overwhelming with how many brands and types are now available so videos like this helps me understand which brands and types are good for different effects and applications.
Remember hex pots from Citadel? I got out at about the same time and the worst paints now would be the best paints at that point.
The journey to finding "your" colors is a fantastic journey. My journey with the acrylics is close to yours. My most favorite ones are AK 3rd Gen., Scale 75 or Kimera. But I haven't tried a lot of other interesting paint brands like pro acryl.
What I found is, that all those paints are wonderful but lack the color vibrancy that oil artist paints can offer. I more and more try to learn how to use the oils and enjoy the new journey immensely. I would be interested in your opinion on using oils.
Don't sleep on the new Vallejos. The game colors have really impressed me.
Im brought back to this video as I need to reavulauate the paints I have. Been going through them marking them red amber and green as to whether they are useless, useable and a must have. Ideally every paint should be in the green category for me. Instead of buying a complete set I think I will need to buy from different sets and replace a lot of the colours. When I stopped painting I was having a lot of frustration with the quality of the paint and I want to be able to paint without frustration so Im tackling this problem on the head. Im not convinced buying whole sets work. It great if you have the money and space for sure.
15:33 this Burnt Red probably covers well, because it contains a lot of red oxide pigment, which is pretty opaque especially compared to any other red pigment. Mix in another red pigment with good staining qualities and you got yourself a burnt red/hull red or whatever the hobby brand decides to call it.
They also have a Red Oxide, so I am wondering now about the difference... I will have to go fiddle tomorrow...
@@thinkabouthelogic Jason from Pro Acryl ones told me that they try to use the least amount of pigments per paints, so it's likey that the Red Oxide from Pro Acryl only contains PR101, which would make it ideal for mixing. I have multiple red oxides, but not Pro Acryl's one, so can't compare swatches to check. Either way, let me now how your fiddling went!
Tenebrous grey is such a versatile paint of awesomeness!
One Question: Assuming a new painter asks you for paint recommendations, would you stick with a single brand like AK, Pro Acryl or Warpaint Fanatics so that the barrier of learning different behaviors is reduced, or do you go straight up for the "best" like you recommended here?
I would buy some paints from a selection of these and see what suits my style best.
Wow Skaven are looking so good !! That red is amazing!!
Great info Vince, appreciate it. I look forward to trying the new Army Painter line, I haven't bothered yet because I already own too many paints.
Thanks for the knowledge. Always helpful in how you explain the why behind the paint choices and not just the name and how you have multiple brands that do similar things for you. Maybe an addendum of the bottles you have had to replace most often?
Yes absolutely for Tenebrous grey. Nightshade purple from Reaper MSP is also perfect as a shadow color. No one uses Reaper anymore… they’re so underrated.
I use their red, blue, and green liners for darklining when I want a more cartoonish look or a very dark atmosphere.
I Use Monument and AK. Vince Your Paynes Gray is probably my most used paint, its on most of my minis somewhere its so usefull.
Brilliant as always! I'd love to see you do something similar for oils, but I understand the algorithm/audience tends to ignore oil content, sadly..
Definitely going to be grabbing a bottle of AK 3rd gen. pastel peach.
Thanks Vince!
I'm just hear admiring your paint setup lol
Thanks for this! The only color you didn't discuss much that I feel strongly about is yellow. I've recently fallen down the artist paint rabbit hole and bought myself a cadmium-free "Cadmium Yellow," and the tinting strength is miles apart from any other yellow I've worked with. If you like mixing paint and are a green or orange enjoyer such as myself, there isn't any other yellow I'd choose to use.
Im fascinatingly close to this with a lot of pro acryl and Ak 3rd gen - guess I need to check out AP Fanatic!
Also I started painting back in the pandemic, and it never occurred to me that my bottles of VMC were a "cursed" generation - I had thought the splitting was just par for the course and perfect metal paints were out of reach! I will have to see if I can get my hands on the new stuff
At this point I’m convinced Vince could make a Skaven army look good with paint bought at Sherwin Williams, and using a spork as his brush. Never in my wildest dream would I have thought to use green on skin tones, but yet again I’m schooled. I’ll just cry in a corner now
I was thinking those RoseArt paints... I also think he may have undersold talent a bit here, since I have an embarrassing amount of the PA paints and yet my miniatures look like a 3rd grader worked on them for 2 hours, got bored, and went to the playground.
I've got to give a shout out to the Golden SoFlat Dioxazine Violet Deep. I reached out to Golden and they recommend that if I wanted to use it with the airbrush I use their OPEN thinner instead of the regular thinner. For anyone looking for a rich, dark purple, you've gotta try the SoFlat.
I basically only use AK 3rd gen and the new formulation Vallejo paints. Then some random ones off citadel colors, like thunderhawk blue, or now the ap fanatic stuff
I can see the spec sheet for Vince Venturella signature set 2 from ProAcryl: "So here's a gold ring. Color match that."
I regret not saying hi during Nova! I hope you had a great con and I’ll be sure to say what’s up next year. You did a great job judging ❤
Thanks!
great video, really liked the first one
Two things :
1/ I'm a beginner and I'm about to buy some paints to start the hobby journey, but struggle to take a final decision regarding my first set (AP Fanatic, Vallejo game color ? Model ?...) So, thank you for this pretty relevant video to say the least.
2/ I notice your wallpaper slides with gorgeous angels everywhere and as a big fan of this esthetic myself I had to acknoledge it :)
Check out the extremely long comment I posted below to mf2943-- loads of info I wish I had summarized when I started on your 1st question :-)
@@thinkabouthelogic I'm sorry dude, I just can't find any comment from you under mf2943, are you sure you commented this guy? Could you paste it here? Thank you so much
I wouldn't ever buy a full 'paint set' from any company, especially as a beginner, that said I did con my wife into getting me the Pro Acryl base set for Xmas a couple years ago. If money is no object go for it, but I bet you will only use half of them. I really love the Pro Acryl range, the bottle design is just wrong but the paints are generally amazing. Vallejo Mecha Colour metallics are amazing, along with their metallic black Air paint, super thin airbrush paints but go on amazing with a brush.
I wouldn't get a paint set, just get the colours you need, there will be colours in a set you never even open. Depending on what you are painting, it's unlikely there would be an ideal set unless you really go overkill and spend too much as a beginner.
All the paint nowadays is pretty darn good..its more about colors you want than brand really.
Love the video Vince!
4 years ago the go to paints video was about Scale75, Vallejo and some GW, Warcolours and few ProAcryls.
Time to go buy new paints!
Time changes all for sure. :)
After watching this video I almost feel like I've been paint "incorrectly" all these years. The concept of universal highlights and shadows makes a huge amount of sense and I feel almost foolish for not considering it previously. I coincidentally purchased many of the Pro-Acryl paints you have recommended when buying some bottles to experiment with. I mainly use Citadel with some heavy investment in Scale 75. I enjoy the variety of colours available but I do find the consistency and the coverage can be a challenge at times or inconsistent depending on the bottle. It's a bit of a shame to see many painters that lauded the range to have moved away from it now but I think that I'll be using it for some time to come. I don't like to just discard paints unless I am really frustrated with it.
A video so useful I broke out a notebook to write these down Thanks Vince
This is a very useful video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great info Thanks !!
I love AK, just been hard to find on Amazon with quick shipping.
I just bought a starter set of paint, some brushes and then more brushes and more paint online and more miniatures, rust-oleum flat primer in gray, black and white and...and...washes and....I've...JUST PUT MY FIRST BLACK PRIMER ON MY FIRST MINI!!!! :) Thank GOD I saw your beginner tutorial as now I'm really going to just take my time and not waste any of the valuable resources, I just spent probably over $350 in total (LOTS of minis :) I'm terrified to start but at least I have my first mini primed and it looks like it sprayed on even, etc.
From your tutorial I feel like that shading and lighting is where it gets tricky....maybe I'll paint a little tomorrow but probably will watch more of your videos first. There are so many tutorials that you can get lost and just unfocused so I'm going to stick to your channel like paint to primer...my first miniature painting joke?
So my only question is the watering down of the paint. I had no idea you did that. I guess sometimes you do not? Maybe for the eyes? When do you not water down the paint?
Watch my video on Layering, that will answer the question more deeply. For the beginning, you are generally going to make something like a 1-1 ratio.
I'm a big fan of the Fanatic Terrestrial Titan myself.
Thank you for helpfull video Vince :) youve also solved a problem ive had. I picked up a bottle of the Vallejo metal and despite shaking it up like a crazy man for over ten minutes , its still seperates within moments. I suspect i may of got one of the bad batches you meantioned 😂 shall order another bottle and see if it makes a difference :)
Love these deep dive videos into paints. Love AK paints and Pr Acryl (wish they had more satin finish options) but have to disagree about Fanatics. It’s definitely army painters better attempt at paint but they are goopy and leave a chalky finish. This is just my opinion of course.
You can turn PA satin with varnish ;-)
Strange, haven't had any of that sort of issue honestly, the thicker creaminess smooths out without issue.
Excellent insights. I keep trying to love AK but they are so troublesome when used thru an airbrush.
Pro Acryl has been solid but I'll need to check out the new army painter line after this
Great stuff friend 👏 👍 🤙
14:19 indeed, PR122. PV19 is also used, but compared to the narrow range of PR122, has a wide range of tones (depending on how it is made), ranging from cold red to purple.
I think that PR122 is favoured over PV19 because it has slightly better properties, like light fastness and slightly better coverage.
I got to a point around 400 paints where I noticed I had all the colors that my eye could actually discern.
What do you think of the newer vallejo game color, how do they compare to army painter fanatic?
Haven't really gotten to use them yet.
@@VinceVenturella thanks, have a couple of new game color paints and think they are a notable improvement over the old ones, just don't have a comparison with the fanatics.
Vince, thanks for the educational video. I checked your video a few times and couldn't find what paints you use for the yellow color. This one is also notoriously hard to achieve. Thanks in advance.
It varies, all the contrasts yellows are good, I like several in the Pro Acryl range as well, I also use some HBA paints. In the end, yellow are easy, but the key is to have it over a bright warm undershade.
Vince, just finished Hobby Advice and it was great!
What base colors would you recommend to layer Up to ProAcryl Warm Yellow? Traditionally 'Averland' was the base and not the end so examples I look for are going up to Golden bright yellows where I want it more muted.
P.S. it will be with some Burgundy on Bretonnians if they can share to 'cheat' on the buildup? 💖🖌
Ice Yellow would be the go-to.
AK Interactive's Ducati Blue and Frog Green!!!
I love these videos, makes me think I could reduce my collection to 50 odd paints. But instead I spend even more on these suggestions and keep all the old ones 😂 thanks, I think?
I really like my AK's on the brush but I mostly use tamiya thinner for airbrush which is just not compatible with something in their formula.
6:47 Hey Vince! I’m relatively new to the hobby and the idea of “universal” highlights and shadows is bending my brain just a bit as I usually just work with triads.
Obviously there is never a “one rule covers all” situation when it comes to art, but am I understanding correctly that for any part of a mini you want to have a warm highlight you are slowly building/mixing bright pale yellow into the midtone while doing the same with Payne’s gray for the shadows?
So for example, for something I want to be blue I would follow something like this for darkest shadows to brightest highlights:
Paynes gray
Paynes gray with blue
Blue
Blue with bright pale yellow
Blue with even more bright pale yellow?
Sorry for the long comment, just want to make sure I’m understanding this! 😁
Yes