Does a 454 Big Block fit into a Toyota Crown?

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  • @theskidfactory
    @theskidfactory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Shout out to Ian for cutting us some spare keys! Thanks Ian!
    Let Me In Locksmiths: 0439 944 652
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    • @steelburnouts6146
      @steelburnouts6146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi hope you do a in person harrop shoptour interested in 9.8 deck bbc top mount low profile supercharger info cheers

    • @LongPeter
      @LongPeter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genuine NX Pajero keys are un-fking-believably expensive.

    • @jerrywooton4308
      @jerrywooton4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      385kg

    • @cme2cau
      @cme2cau 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Who are you, and how did you get in here?"

    • @Rattus-Norvegicus
      @Rattus-Norvegicus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a question, when you take everything apart, how do you remember how to put it back together? Edit* Also my guess is 543lbs

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Al: "If you were hoping for a quick series on this one, it's not gonna be! This is probably gonna go on for a long time"
    Richard & Nik: "We rewrote the definition of 'long time'".

    • @rickerd83
      @rickerd83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Just made a 9 year window for himself to finish this car🤣 good day fellow BOM viewer!!

    • @russ123321bunya
      @russ123321bunya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The longer the builds go the better!

    • @playwme3
      @playwme3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How long does it take to make a couple brackets for a Big Block?

    • @ArKritz84
      @ArKritz84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mere human lifespans are nothing to Bracketry Obsession Motorsport.

    • @888johnmac
      @888johnmac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol , thats who i immediately thought of as well

  • @andersjjensen
    @andersjjensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I'm a Binky fan... I'm hardened by now. Hit us with a good job done the way you want it. No matter how long that takes! :D

    • @rickerd83
      @rickerd83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hello fellow Binky viewer! We have learned the fine art of patience

    • @Anderzander
      @Anderzander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The only caveat is that I’m 51. I was 25 when Binky started, I’m not going to live long enough to see too many project cars at that rate 🤩

    • @Sickofitall-76
      @Sickofitall-76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      😂🤣😂🤣This made me laugh!! As a fellow Binky fan, the 7-8yrs they took to complete that car has made me impervious to TH-cam time! The more videos you give me the happier I am!

    • @sonofhalver
      @sonofhalver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Project Binky and the seemingly abandoned Escargo

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sonofhalver The Escargo will return for sure. Next episode happens when they've been stuck waiting for parts that Nik can't fabricate himself for long enough that the Escargo gets prioritized out of boredom :P

  • @theSam91
    @theSam91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    220kg for that big boy.
    ALSO! A suggestion from a guy that used to work at a welding supply store (fixing welders and plasma cutters) Make sure to keep on top of the torch consumables and replace them when they need replacing. Don't skimp and try and make them last longer than they're supposed to, they do wear out (sometimes quicker than you might think!) and make sure you get the correct consumables, the wrong ones can look very similar/identical but the torch will not work full stop. Also don't drop the torch head or give it any hard knocks, they are fragile and expensive inside.
    That and make sure the air supply is dry, water in the air will destroy the consumables very quickly.
    Enjoy the light saber!

  • @UncleManuel
    @UncleManuel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Big Blocks are big, that's why they are called Big Block."
    -TurboYoda, 2020
    😁😁😁🚙😁😁😁

  • @mountainconstructions
    @mountainconstructions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    This is like fitting Lexington Steele into Kylie Minogue

    • @TheSinaloaCartel
      @TheSinaloaCartel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You win 🏆 🥇 👑 😂 😂

    • @mikeypickett1981
      @mikeypickett1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If this doesn’t get top comment, there is no point in the internet anymore

    • @XceedDriver
      @XceedDriver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh. 🤣

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂 get a run up..

    • @willd2156
      @willd2156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤝

  • @mickthurston9883
    @mickthurston9883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally your own car T.Y. A 597 big shout Rodger, that envelope he gave mechanical Stig for Drag week. Legend.
    Always admired your show, put a proper smile on me boat ( race) . Mick T

  • @dannichols8728
    @dannichols8728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 120 lbs or as the rest of the world would say it 54.4311 kgs. I've been a subscriber/watcher since the beginning, even got input on what turbos to use on my 99 Camaro build. It is only getting better and better, thank y'all for the excellent content!

    • @papopleto
      @papopleto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh cars would be so much cooler if a big block weighed 120 pounds.

  • @maog8764
    @maog8764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    251.5kg asked for big block content and have been super rewarded. Love that big block sound

  • @TomBudin
    @TomBudin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love a big black box sometimes

  • @chyraxion
    @chyraxion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im not sure i like how quickly dude said yes and how happy he looked when he said can you do safes lol

  • @bendempster86
    @bendempster86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's refreshing to see youtubers actually take their time and build things properly. Watching other people buying new 'dailys' every second day gets old quick.

  • @hutchdw77
    @hutchdw77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great work.
    You guys are the best Australian car content.

  • @kennethsmith3260
    @kennethsmith3260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm really surprised how easy that engine fits in that bay. of course there's a lot to do to make it work but at least it fits. cant wait to see it run.

  • @justinpimblett2467
    @justinpimblett2467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the sound of this build and can't wait for finished thing but I guess 307 kg

  • @CurtisBowman40
    @CurtisBowman40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If it were easy, we would not need Al and Woody show us the way to do it. Nice to see "OC" helping out and enjoying an Lemon Squash or two. I say the Big Block weighs about 33 cases of Lemon Squash.

  • @demonic477
    @demonic477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw the episode header and thought it will with a BFH and a little well placed massaging on the firewall . I got a 360 dodge in a Opel cadet FFS I needed to beef up the front suspension afterwards but it fit it had a massive hole in the hood but it fit and went like a cat on fire god I miss that car.

  • @wasabicars
    @wasabicars 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool, guys. Keen to follow this build

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roger has grown so much!!!
    I had heard of big engines being put into Crowns before....well more on Crown chassis. I'd heard that the older Crowns actually had a ladder rail chassis underneath and heaps of people built T-bucket type hot rods using them.

  • @FMuscleZ28
    @FMuscleZ28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, can't wait for more Alan knowledge.
    And 14:29 was on point.

  • @pablojones5613
    @pablojones5613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see that there's real hope for fitting a big block into your Crown. It gives me some hope of getting the 1uz conversion done on mine.

    • @theskidfactory
      @theskidfactory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1UZ has lower exhaust ports that clash with the upper control arms. Strange that and engine nearly twice the capacity fits better.

    • @pablojones5613
      @pablojones5613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theskidfactory I have a set of log headers and a factory canted bellhousing that should alleviate this issue to a degree.

    • @theskidfactory
      @theskidfactory  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The canted bellhousing is just for the steering box clearance on a UZS131, it won't help with clearance on the much narrower S55 chassis. The 131 also had some of the most horrific exhaust manifolds to go with the bellhousing twist.

  • @glensubtorq
    @glensubtorq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plasma cutters are the awesome! Nice move there 👍😎

  • @MoondyneJoe
    @MoondyneJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the end of the video when you asked which came first the chicken or the egg, I thought it would have been the rooster!!
    Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺

  • @brianbridgeman6877
    @brianbridgeman6877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet Christmas vibes on that first song

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU FOR DETAILED VIDEO

  • @AutomotiveKarnage
    @AutomotiveKarnage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoehorning a big V8 in to a old 70s toyota, now where have i seen that lol. Awesome idea for a build Al, its going to be mad.

  • @Dylan_Fitzy
    @Dylan_Fitzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so bloody excited for this build 🤙🏽🤙🏽

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:53 I don't know what that is, but it looks like a GM Opel or something. Now that is an amazing looking ride! Might be one of the best I have ever seen looks wise of that model.

    • @b.w.9392
      @b.w.9392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not an opel kadett C which I thought, maybe a mazda coupe? Lots of cars from that eara look alike

    • @MickeyMishra
      @MickeyMishra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@b.w.9392 True. I miss the old days before everyone went mad with rules and regulations. The best thing about the future? They can't stop us from stamping and even printing out our own designs with our own hands.
      I'm actually looking forward to rust and metal repair work. I want something so darn American it screams "Hee HAA!" every time I drive it. Have a good one Bro!

  • @modernpizza
    @modernpizza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heckin' Roger mate, star of the show

  • @nickgrech9634
    @nickgrech9634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always legends!!

  • @davowar4768
    @davowar4768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lookin good boys. No substitute for Cubic inches💪

  • @te11meastory29
    @te11meastory29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd guess 275lg as it's hangin' there. Don't worry about how long each build takes. Every one is a story, and you blokes tell it well.

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am surprised that it fits so easy but the old crowns were pretty big
    Reminds me a bit of a hq chassis 👍👍

  • @geofftuck7347
    @geofftuck7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This build is going to be epic!! My guess for the big block with the heads and intake is 295kgs. Keep up the great work lads 🤙🏻

  • @fellowship_of_the_goat
    @fellowship_of_the_goat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If this is going to be a summernats kind of car, would be sweet to see it with Hillborn style intake stacks, except electronic injection

  • @masondegaulle5731
    @masondegaulle5731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good choice on the plasma, the UniMig cutter is a ripper. Forget what the book says about sheet thickness & amps, turn it up and moderate your cut depth by the speed of your travel. Heaps cleaner cut & faster. 👍
    454 are pretty hefty, no ex. manifolds and pretty bare I'm guessing 280-285kg?

  • @alindorindicu3732
    @alindorindicu3732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Attention span", very well said, really thanks!!!

  • @OG-nl8so
    @OG-nl8so 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Southwest Texas 🇺🇸

  • @xozindustries7451
    @xozindustries7451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My buddies work at Moroso, those pans actually make horsepower on a big block because they reduce windage, I would recommend one, that’s what I run on my Shafiroff 540

    • @79huddy
      @79huddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Make sure to knock all the weld splatter bb's out of it before running it though seen a couple circle track engines smoked because of them I had to cut the baffles out of one to clean it properly and there was some real junk trapped under the baffles and it had never been ran or fitted was new out the box

  • @plumbs7199
    @plumbs7199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome build , can’t wait to see it running?

  • @Dropbear237
    @Dropbear237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gear vendors have overdrive extensions for a lot of gearboxes, especially power glides if you're interested.

  • @ctiley2212
    @ctiley2212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing as there is many cars with electric steering nowadays is there some options there that may make your choice easier, is that an option?

  • @danielmckinley7064
    @danielmckinley7064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers Woza!🍻

  • @yourawesome7127
    @yourawesome7127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you 😊

  • @hanshoogendyk2203
    @hanshoogendyk2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put a 302 Cleveland into a 1973 crown 30 years ago, owners finances didn't extend to a diff swap so it was quick to 100 with 3.9 to one gears, biggest problem I had was oil filter, which needed a remmote mount

  • @ro63rto
    @ro63rto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A 9.8L engine in a car that weighs how much?
    Madness, I absolutely love the idea!

    • @lmo2021
      @lmo2021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Problem is the engine they will be putting in isn't a 9.8L.
      That's just the engine used for test fitting.

    • @pohtoj1
      @pohtoj1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmo2021 8.1L going in still.

  • @fendel_
    @fendel_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like the engine fits pretty nicely. But where will you mount the turbos?

  • @KopMaister
    @KopMaister 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the song from the first fitting montage? The upbeat harmonica jazz thingy? Also love the build so far. 💪

  • @Mcnutsackpro
    @Mcnutsackpro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How good are the plasma fumes up the snoz

  • @kzarnold3678
    @kzarnold3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool build

  • @Gidanski
    @Gidanski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm gonna go low and say around the 210kg mark, Lots of alloy bits, overbore for capacity taking weight from the block. Also that looks like it's gonna be fun to do the UCA shims for wheel alignment when the headers are on.

  • @Renesis97
    @Renesis97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Big blocks are big, so that’s why they’re called big blocks”.
    Words of wisdom here!

  • @paulstanford3063
    @paulstanford3063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this build , mini tubs ?
    There are a couple of big block crowns down in Victoria that are engineer approved due to the full chassis .

  • @wa.gtrsoul
    @wa.gtrsoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:21 It looks like there's just enough room for a turbo log manifold :)

    • @john_p
      @john_p 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't encourage him

  • @kiwikingi1
    @kiwikingi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the build .is it going to be engineered or just a track / skid car . .... 296kg

  • @hiperformanceplumbing309
    @hiperformanceplumbing309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    276kg I'd guess. Best channel on TH-cam lads

  • @suronsoon8913
    @suronsoon8913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooh I was looking forward for a 1uz or a 2jz or a century v12.....cried me a river bro, but hey it your car al, ace bro!

  • @redbeardr31
    @redbeardr31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Engine would be 280kg as pictured i rekon, looks like it fits reasonably well!

  • @jamesbaylis9438
    @jamesbaylis9438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    287.6Kg, But how can we not forget the mammoth task of the 6BT into the Patrol. You Son is gonna be the hit of his Formal when you rock up in this 👍

  • @sprocketdiver190
    @sprocketdiver190 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the tunes

  • @stevevesotsky6849
    @stevevesotsky6849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "a swift dip of his pinky" LMFAO absolute gold!!

  • @sheriffjim2
    @sheriffjim2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking forward to the start up on this build 285.4 kg

  • @mjaymo
    @mjaymo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    285kg.
    Reckon you will be able to still change the plugs with that clearance to the upright?

  • @michaelevans7013
    @michaelevans7013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a look at Finnigens Chanel on the close ratio big block log manifolds.

  • @bobzmonkey1
    @bobzmonkey1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    350kgs I rekon
    Will be an absolute montser when finished can't wait

  • @fredericrike5974
    @fredericrike5974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I vote yes too long, well detailed build, lots of "use yer brain" humor and more of Turbo Ninja's take on the whole thing! We will be here, sir! FR

  • @mattfisher4256
    @mattfisher4256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the car need updated suspension to handle the extra heft of that monster of an engine and/or the chassis strengthened to handle the extra power?? Looks like ground clearance might be an issue too. Can’t wait to see the journey and end result, will be awesome

  • @SHOCKcustoms
    @SHOCKcustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When do u get the harrop non chrome blower kit? Looking forward to seeing you ring the neck of old school cool with modern go fast goodies.

  • @mfortugapt4life
    @mfortugapt4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Twin turbos facing back to back and a 6" exhaust pipe, clock the turbos to the I take and put 2 big filters and it's a monster for fuel

    • @tomahoks
      @tomahoks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but I reckon he will be ok w/o 3000hp.

  • @smallenginedude71
    @smallenginedude71 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    keen for this one boys!! love a long series!

  • @wombat696969
    @wombat696969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:50 what’s the engine way? Around 350kg?

  • @lindsaymcpherson4744
    @lindsaymcpherson4744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What year crown is this one ??? Great video guys !!

  • @aussmash
    @aussmash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you taking this Summer Nats as well?

  • @Official_s1asher
    @Official_s1asher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Going to be a fun car with a 454 😍

  • @jimkevin9863
    @jimkevin9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you two going to be in store at Supercheap rockhampton during Rockynats? There are a few of the team that follow you and would love to meet you both.

    • @theskidfactory
      @theskidfactory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are roadtripping a 74 Kingswood up there so quite possibly.

  • @williamhardes8081
    @williamhardes8081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    would the electric steering rack from a Prius fit? keeping the purity (ok, so other than a big block. lol) as Martin would say. this would also save the room taken up by the power steering pump? maybe keep the hydraulic rack but to save space run a remote mounted electric power steering pump?

  • @Dean_Ranga
    @Dean_Ranga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey fellas, just wondering if we are going to get to see the Super cox run at some point?

  • @the_real_superstickman
    @the_real_superstickman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BBC... I'd expect nothing less from a guy called Woody

  • @bigsohc
    @bigsohc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'mon the skid factory should enter something into the skid competition at rockynats, it's in the name! Plus that would be awesome 👌

  • @karlvanboxel561
    @karlvanboxel561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Insane I luv it ! Where du get your tesa loom tape seems like some dodgy stuff out there

  • @jonodragicevich1286
    @jonodragicevich1286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got nothing to say but comments help the algorithm.

  • @porky3384
    @porky3384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome weasel jazz boys!

  • @darrindouglas1
    @darrindouglas1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it worthwhile doing a strut conversion to the front, seeing as though you have to do a rack conversion anyway ???.....would allow a lot more clearance for the primaries, and would increase the handling and support of the weight of the BBC. If you're going to this much trouble, may as well make it easy to change plugs etc'.....

  • @TangyBanana27
    @TangyBanana27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work, I'm thinking 276kg

  • @cobrin6437
    @cobrin6437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    310kg give or take.
    Nice to know how it's going to be laid out. What rear driveline are you going to go with?

  • @whatdoiknowsmith
    @whatdoiknowsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    223 kgs. Hell yeah, now thats a v8. Well done. Great ideas.

  • @jasonwishart6800
    @jasonwishart6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you should space it up as high as possible to give some clearance under that glide and get the primary headers above the control arms. Not going under the bonnet anyhow.

  • @kentmckean6795
    @kentmckean6795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    274 kg for the win. I'm concerned for your oil pan sump relocation plans. The oil pump on the Chevy Rat is within an inch or so from the bottom of the pan so I don't see you being able to move the sump to the middle. I hope I am wrong.

    • @theskidfactory
      @theskidfactory  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right about the oil pump issue. I am making a dual well sump with bypasses between the two.

  • @Headsup9550
    @Headsup9550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused. If you're going to have to use a rack and pinion, you can probably swap spindles side to side and steer it in front of the cross member if you can find a suitable rack and pinion, or just one that could be modded to work, no? Or are you planning to keep it rear steer and just mount the rack and pinion where the old drag link was? I'm not familiar with how the typical rack and pinion install is performed on a Toyota Crown being as I'm 'Merican and all.. lol Love the channel guys!

    • @theskidfactory
      @theskidfactory  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is not a double A arm chassis, the lower arm has a tension (or caster) rod like an early ford so you can't mount a rack in between those moving parts.

  • @domesticcanadian
    @domesticcanadian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    226.796 Kg
    The build is looking good!

  • @crystaljustinbertoli7115
    @crystaljustinbertoli7115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    280kgs. This series is gunna be mint!

  • @dannissen8266
    @dannissen8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it!!!👍🏻🍻

  • @paulsnow1289
    @paulsnow1289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised the turbo Yoda is going big block but there so much easier. Good luck fella it's going to be a fun car.

  • @MichaelSmith-kr9qw
    @MichaelSmith-kr9qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    302 kg ! This is going to be a fun little series !

  • @joelan93mtfworkshop89
    @joelan93mtfworkshop89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    315kg 👍 there's no replacement for displacement 💪

  • @AveryMait1995
    @AveryMait1995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    307.63kg's, love the videos guys

  • @chetwinkles5051
    @chetwinkles5051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting the spice that you need is absolute necessity.

  • @Dad-jk2wd
    @Dad-jk2wd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dammit boy! I wish I lived in Australia! I'd LOVE to enjoy the festivities and consume multiple alcoholic beverages with my mates!

  • @MrFoozin
    @MrFoozin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dolomite Grey paint yeh? This build series is going to be very handy to me. I'm doing a 7m to tr6060 S1 sequential with a NPC dual plate conversion on me ms45 crown