Preston Perry talks to a group of LDS elders
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- In the video Preston Perry talks to a group of LDS members. Prestons aim the video is to reveal Gods truth to his LDS neighbor’s while at the same time displaying gentleness and respect. Preston also has a book dropping May 21st called How to tell the Truth.
Pray for me guys. I will preach the gospell at 23 April on Buyukada Turkey toour Muslim friends. Please Jesus Christ help me to speak your words. Thanks for the amazing talk !
What is your name, friend? I would like to keep you in my prayers, so that you may witness the Gospel and the Holy Spirit flood the hearts of those who are earnest about seeking truth!
i will pray right now!
@@Vince6323 my name is Yavuz Eken, thanks for your prayers
I too have spent time in Turkey, sharing the Gospel of our Savior Jesus Christ, in Istanbul, Turkey
@@treforbii9166 If you are here on 23 I would love to meet you on Buyukada then brother. We will go with our church there.
My take-home message from this conversation is 'Know the word and study the word of God for yourself'. God bless you, Minister Preston🙏🏼
I agree, I almost fell into the trinity doctrine because of the masses beliefs. I only realized truths studying on my own and praying for clarity and guidance. There is a lot of confusion and mystification out there.
@@stainless-life6701 Trinity doctrine? You mean that God is three in one?
Trinity 3 in 1 amen
Preston out here shaking theological trees 😂
@@stainless-life6701the trinity is the foundation of the christian faith. If you don’t believe in that you’re a heretic and in error
What makes this grueling is knowing they can’t explain the obvious contradictions but are doubling down with love and kindness.
That’s what everyone does, taking the heat off of themselves. So they can make it look all the same!
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Truth is a straightline with few parts & no detours. Confusion & deception run in circles and many Rabbit trails
Hehe so we can go all the harder...
For how will they know you are my disciples.. if you love them..
So just love the jws and Mormons more then they love you 👍
I think a great seed was planted, and I pray it is watered!
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The boy on the far left is learning, he has great listening skills 😂 Praise God!
He was tuned all the way in. He even leans forward when Preston is speaking.
Praise God
No these are specific listening skills they are taught at the Missionary Training Center. They are not falling for Preston's less than pre-school understanding of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They were expecting to come share a simple message not have a debate about disproven nonsensical anti-mormon tropes. He creepily filmed them secretly to profit off Jesus on TH-cam.
He is probably a new missionary, usually there is a new elder paired with a more experienced missionary. So he was probably less comfortable sharing in front of a camera and being put online and under a lot of pressure.
You think this is a joke, but you are a fool, and so is this dude who thinks his knowledge trumps God’s words, and God’s servants. He said he respect the elder couple and feels they are wise then continues to try to be wiser than them. This dude is going to have some bad responses from the most high! I promise you that! Mark my wards, his arrogance will be visited by Gods wrath.
I was born and raised LDS. I began to question many things which led me to the Bible. As I truly started studying the Bible I realized how many verses contradict the Book of Mormon and the fundamental beliefs of the LDS church. I am now a born again believer by the grace of God! These conversations are so important and I pray for my family/ friends who are still in the LDS faith.
I rejoice with you and thank God deep from my heart that He lavished His grace upon you and saved you.
Hey brotha, is there anyway I can connect with you? Would love to hear your pov.
I am in the same boat.
PRAISE GOD
I must say....I have come to know that in church the bible is really not enforced.....Its kinda there but the focus is on the Book of M....I will continue to keep my eyes open....I have
come to realize that for alot of people church is just a thing that they do because their parents have told them too., and not looked fir answers for themselves.....I still believe in the gospel...I do churxh differently these days
The young Mormon guy who is talking is very smart and mature for his age. I see sincerity and real faith in him and he is still so young. Well done Preston for your kindness.
I was raised Mormon and was even a missionary for 18 months. Listening to these guys is frustrating to me because they have no idea how wrong they are. I know they've been brainwashed and wholeheartedly believe they have the truth just as I did. May the Lord open their eyes. I pray for Mormons every day. Wow, Preston knows what he's talking about. I'm happy they got to listen to the truth.
It hurts my heart that they are so decieved.
@@melissaparker7336 Amen! Spiritual blindness is so real. They really can't see.
Stop the lies 😂
Is it because you studied Native American anthropology and archaeology including Biblical holy land archeological studies that also made you question your belief in Mormon teachings?
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"I Stand all amazed" at your great approach to the missionaries. I was a Mormon for 62 years of my life!
I served a Mission, as Elders Quorum President, counselor to a Bishop, then as a Bishop, Stake High counselor, served as an ordinance worker in the Temple, and many other callings with the young men and scouting as my sons grew to adulthood. My 3 sons have all served missions and are now active LDS and Temple married. My story is too long to tell, just need to say that my experience to the real Jesus Christ was the MOST PAINFUL thing of my life, and the most amazing and fulfilling!!! This video has helped me.
Thank you!! The scales of indoctrination have been removed from my eyes.. I Know the Lord now after many years!
I hear you. I had a very similar experience and it was so so painful and then it was beautiful and glorious. My eyes see clearly now too and the chains of indoctrination have been removed. There are still days where God reveals a chain I still have and an untruth rooted in me, and gives me the opportunity to have it removed and replaced with pure love and grace. Thank you, Abba.
Thank you for sharing your journey brother
ok thanks for sharing your story you must be from utah
Praise God!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I'm sorry you're faith in Jesus is lost
As an ex-Mormon now Evangelical I've got to say this was an amazing conversation, so respectful and yet bold in declaring truth. Really well done.
The lds missionaries are great at spreading truth
This was creepy and lame. He hid a camera so he could show off arguing with a couple 18 year olds. Creepy and illegal. He prepared his whole life for this and they thought they were just coming to teach some basics of our church. Creepy entrapment and illegal filming without permission is all this is. His arguments are straight out of the budget anti-mormon books that have been disproven since the 1800s.
From one cult to another cult?
@@BaBumznope.
@@Minabobina007nope.
As a man that lives in Utah I want to thank you for . Doing this in such an eloquent manner . Because this is the first time I’ve seen them start questioning themselves. 🙏
I love these conversations but I honestly feel like this is something I can’t do well as a Christian. I love how Preston articulates himself. Nothing but respect for this man and his wife. God bless!
We each have our own gift from God, sometimes feeding the preacher is as important as the preaching.
@@cyndiestafford3150amen!!!
READ HIS NEW BOOK! It breaks down and shows other Christian's how to do what he does as an apologetic
@@imnoahgregory I just brought it… I got it in queue… can’t wait!
Former Mormon, Born again Christian here- thank you for sharing this conversation.
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“If you don’t have evidence of good works then it’s proof you did not have faith to begin with”
PREACH!!!!
What good works prove you have faith and how many would you need to show this? Is that in scripture.
@murraylloyd6011
James 2
@@kikinatroneGod requires perfection to get into heaven. You need the righteousness of God. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
@@murraylloyd6011 James 2:18 "I will show you my faith by my works"
Also, Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey" if your works are evil then your master is evil. However, prior to that Paul talks about how grace covers it all despite our sins. It is not the works that save you but Grace. However, if Christ is not your master do you have grace? The very Epistle people quote to talk about grace also shows us that works are an essential component of receiving that grace. It is a complicated scenario but the way I look at it, Grace saves us no matter how much sin was or might someday be in our lives and it is merely our efforts to obey God that qualify us for Grace, not the works themselves but our attitude of following the Savior. Likewise, if God has commanded us to be baptized and we are not making every effort to follow that command than are we truly his servants. Grace is there for free waiting only for us to take it by becoming Servants of God.
Works, therefore, are required. Not because works get us into heaven because there is no amount of works that make us worthy or free of sin but because believing in Christ is the requirement and you cannot believe in Christ if you do not believe Him and seek to obey Him to the best of your ability.
To me it is plain as day in the words of Paul and also the words of Christ Himself when he said "If ye love me keep my commandments"(John 14:15) and "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21). And even if I'm wrong about what Paul meant I'd rather trust Jesus Christ himself over Paul. Especially when it is written so plainly.
A relationship with Jesus, and the great exchange ( accepting His GIFT of salvation through His death, burial and resurrection in your stead) provides that righteousness.
Preston, God bless you for your conviction and devotion to the Truth!
Oh Preston! Where were you when they deceived me into Mormonism, where I stayed for over 15 years? I’ve been a missionary to Mormons now for over 40 years, and I thank God for people like you, who have taken time to learn and SHARE “the faith once delivered unto the saints” (Jude3)
God bless you my beautiful brother, and I pray that He will continue to use you for the Kingdom. It was a pleasure to see you sharing so well and so respectfully with the poor lost Mormons😦😓🙏🏻
The Book of Mormon is true, and another witness of the same gospel of Jesus Christ as the Bible. Joseph Smith was a true prophet who worshipped Jesus Christ. The church was infiltrated by wicked men. When Joseph Smith was murdered, Brigham Young usurped control of the church and led some of the saints to SLC, Utah (many refused to follow him). Brigham Young introduced many false doctrines into that denomination including polygamy, men becoming Gods, Adam God, blood atonement of men, penal oath temple rituals, a Heavenly Mother, Lucifer being Jesus' brother, incorrect definition of Christ’s church, etc. None of that is in the Book of Mormon or teachings of Joseph Smith, but Brigham Young and the wicked leaders under and after him have pretended that it came from Joseph Smith in order to gain acceptance for their own evil and lustful desires. The LDS church of today is Brigham Young's denomination and is apostate from the teachings of the church under Joseph Smith.
God bless you!
@@joesimpson9230The Book of Mormon is false. Joseph Smith was deceived or worse, he was an evil man who made it up.
@@joesimpson9230you only need the Bible! Nothing needed to be added 💕 Jesus is God and King 🙏🏼 I pray He encounters you mightly and shakes your world for the better!
@@joesimpson9230Joseph smith is wrong tho as well?
This is a respectful, prime example of how we don’t have to approach evangelism with “gotcha moments” as the goal when sharing gospel to others who have a different world view.
Righttt. Preston did this with so much love and you could tell his goal was not to back them into a “gotcha moment” but to simply to understand their view and lowkey plant/stir up something in them
It's creepy. Preston hid a camera and filmed two 18 year old boys without permission. He prepared his whole life to ambush two 18 year old boys who are only there to share with him the very basics. They weren't prepared for Preston's uninformed arguments. Despite his additional preparation, Preston is still clueless about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
P.S. the old people with them are probably just retired elderly missionaries who offered to give the missionaries a ride. Preston ambushed them all and filmed them illegally without their permission. They thought they were there to just share a simple message not have a debate.
@peytoneldridge250 theirs nothing wrong with gotcha moments theirs a place and time for everything, those moments can show how their world view aka religion can't even withstand slight pressure.
The way you carried yourself in this conversation exemplifies elegance, grace, and patience and demonstrates the fruits of the Spirit. This encourages me to conduct a similar gathering someday. Thank you, Preston for showing Jesus’s love in midst of the chaos in today’s world ✝️
beautifully wrote✍🏽
I would be very open to have a conversation with you about the true Gospel of Christ as a Latter-day Saint.
Yes, pretending to be interested in learning about their church to trick 18 year old boys to come to your house really shows elegance and grace. Then secretly filming the 18 year old boys (and the old couple who gave them a ride there) to post a video showing off how he can take advantage of the young missionaries willingness to visit. They came to share basic principles thinking Preston was sincerely interested in learning from them and he tricked them. Preston prepared his whole life for this moment to argue with a couple 18 year old elders who only prepared to share the basics in this lesson. I'd like to see Preston have this discussion with a real apologist or even the fun people at Ward Radio, instead of taken advantage of some kids who just turned 18 and went on a mission. These young missionaries and the senior missionaries are not apologists. Preston Perry claimed to practice apologetics, so maybe he should talk to a Latter-day Saint apologist, not some kids straight out of high school who are volunteering to serve and share the basics of the Gospel.
@@ChrisClarkeArt as a believer this shouldn’t be seen as trick. And they volunteered to come to his house. If anything it’s an opportunity to learn the truth. Why are you bothered by this? And he’s allowing those young men to think about what they believe and ask more questions. It’s a great opportunity for each person to learn. Your comment makes me question why you watch Preston in the first place.
@@ThePhilly71 it is illegal and creepy to record and post videos of people without their knowledge or prior consent. Believers can only be edified together if they come together in an open and honest environment, with sincere intent, in the name of Christ. This was not that. It was a secretly recorded act of self gratification for click bait views to profit off of Christ.
TH-cam, law, and common decency require that all recorded persons provide consent. It is obvious these young guys had no idea they were being recorded.
COME ON PRESTON YOU BETTER TEACH ‼️‼️ This was good. They are literally forgetting GOD IS ALIVE! 🔥
Love this! God bless you for your approach and amazing patience with these people. I was Mormon for over 43 years and I served a mission. It was only through the miracle of God working in me where I found the true Jesus of the Bible and was saved. They are a product of their upbringing and don't know any better. I've wrestled with how to approach my friends and family and even elders if they come to my door. Thank you for your ministry. God bless you.
I expect half the members of the church to leave the covenant path of Zion to fulfill the parable that Jesus gave of the ten wise and foolish virgins. For the Ten Virgins are not the Born Again Evangelist Christians but are the Latter-day Saints. 5 will be wise and 5 will be foolish.
@@germanslice"Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Everything you said about Jesus, and even the central focus you had around HIM in the conversation, was beautiful. I left the LDS church because Joseph Smith was put in esteem right up there with God.. and sometimes it appeared based on LDS ideology that he, Joseph Smith, was even more significant than God. I also remember thinking, we’ll all other Christianity is wrong because they belief Jesus IS God. Now.. I GET IT! The Bible prophecies of “Emmanuel” which translates to “God with us”. Jesus IS our God in the flesh. His grace is sufficient because he offers it to us, not because we choose to receive it. As an LDS member I believed that I had to keep running on this hamster wheel to perfection, and even sometimes when repenting there was a time-frame, mediated by a male leader, on when my forgiveness would be given. NOW as an ex-Mormon, I believe that Christ has provided me with grace the whole time, not on any of my own account…. And THAT belief in HIS grace, His unconditional love then leads me to manifest that love in my daily actions. I am saved. I am forgiven. I am imperfect but I am enough for him and because he sees my worthiness of that precious gift I want so badly to share that light and love through my words, actions and it’s difficult because I’m still in the process of deconstructing the mentality of working my way toward worthiness and healing from a sense of betrayal. Because of Christ, I am worthy and will always be worthy! I love him so much and I am grateful for his example of pure love and acceptance he offers everyone, even those who are misled, indoctrinated like I was. I too, at one point, believed my prayer confirmed the truth of the Book of Mormon. Now I know, my desire for it to be true was misleading me. Reading the truth of church history, multiple revised accounts of Joseph Smith’s first vision…. Actually facing the truth, confirmed to me that my “spiritual witness” was false. The LDS church is not true despite serving a mission, testifying of that for 18 months…. Because how can truth exist among lies and deceit. Lying by omission is still lying. But I did the best with what I knew and NOW I know differently. I am free because of Jesus, God in the flesh❤
There's a clip from a BYU talk given by Jayson Kunzler. His devotion to JS is downright terrifying. If every investigator were to watch his speech, it's hard to imagine anyone converting after that!
Adoration and appreciation for Joseph Smith is certainly an issue. But that is a fault of men and not necessarily an issue with the church as a whole. We pray to and seek the Lords guidance and not guidance from Joseph Smith. Can we not be forgiven for that if some of us are off the mark?
It is very seductive to a person that has taken into consideration all of scripture in relation to how men and women are to be in the world. The church has high demands because we don't believe all we have to do is believe and then we get grace and are saved. We look at all the teachings and the summary of all that is there is more for us to do not to be saved or to save ourselves but because we are asked to do these things. I feel for many Latter-day Saints in high pressure cultures that lead to frustrations and feelings of inadequacy. Church leaders do not teach or push for this. Holland spoke of what perfection means for us in the scriptures. We are always encouraged that we are loved and that we can repent when we do wrong. God is merciful and I don't think we are always as willing to be merciful and charitable towards ourselves.
Praise God that you kept your faith in Christ despite Joseph Smith’s deception , not many who leave the LDS church keep that faith!
I wanted to ask if you could give one or two main topics to focus on that might be helpful to open an LDS member’s mind to the possibility of Joseph’s falsehood what would that be?
Also, I would suggest reading Isaiah’s Vision in God’s Throne Room! Might help with seeing that God will use anyone who is repentant and willing!
Isaiah 6:1-8
King James Version
6 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.
6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
this was so beautiful to read it made me tear up. it truly is all of God’s doing and offering of grace to us. God bless you!!
Love your testimony, may Jesus continue to bless you and set you free through revelation & intimacy with Him… hallelujah
I was Mormon for 28 years, served a mission, married in the LDS temple and served in the church. My wife and I found Jesus and left the church. After finally finding freedom in Jesus, the old way I used to think seems complicated and hard to justify. Through the LDS doublespeak it takes so long to detangle yourself. Combined with the indoctrination and gaslighting it’s a wild journey… I loved this conversation I wish I had approached it this way with my family who are still in the church. Great conversation!
I’m an exmo too and watching this gave me major anxiety and just made me feel sad for them. Especially those poor boys…
Can y’all who hate the church come with your own talking points instead of cutting and pasting from like minded persecutors. At this point it’s all fake….I was a “mormon missionary” and I left the church to find Jesus. I didn’t know Jesus lost🤦🏾♀️. Perhaps, you are the one that is lost as the adversary have whispered into your ears and have led you astray.
Know this that God’s Prophecy is being fulfilled as you mock, spread lies and persecute his church and I pray you will repent and reject the devil and he will flee. May God forgive y’all as you know not what you say or do.
@@RealLadyG I’m sorry but what are you even talking about? Are you a Mormon?
Praise God!
Here’s a video I found that may help its about the failed prophesies of the Mormon church.
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When I say I clicked on this SO FAST...Y'all. I cannot wait to sit and watch this. May God get the glory.
This blessed me tremendously!!! Wow. Keep doing your thing bro. You are needed.
When I met with two Mormon Sister missionaries about Mormonism, they told me to read the Book of Mormon and ask God if it’s true. I did so and God told me no. I told them and they told me to read it again and sincerely ask God if it’s true. I asked God again and He said no, it’s not. They said I was lying. That tells me that they called God a liar, which is bold.
😂😂😂😂
I love that the one elder was honest about the fact that he is still questioning a portion of the Mormon doctrine.
I wasn’t expecting to watch this entire video, but I couldn’t stop it. Thank you, brother for your ministry and for explaining Christianity in a loving way to these folks. I have been a Christian since I was a child, and have had many LDS friends over the years. You have inspired me to get to know the Word more in order to defend my faith and speak to others in this way. God bless!
I believe a seed is being put into the young man, but it's like he is fighting in his spirit about what he has believed and learned prior. God will win in the End (Jesus). Go Preston!
My neighbor is a practicing Mormon. She is kind, respectful, and very likeable. When I talk about the Triune God, the saving power of Jesus Christ, what awaits those who believe in Him alone, she seems confused and does not respond clearly when I ask her what she is taught. I pray for her peace in Christ.
I can understabd her because I can relate......that sort of thing is not taught in church....Its mostly tradition that people are taught mixed in with bits and pieces of gospel teaching .and its mostly in Utah....in other parts of the country the church has a totally different feeling/vibe.
Why would u pray for her if she is kind respectful and likeable? She is walking in Christ. Let all believe what they believe is it working for them let them alone. Smh
@@Chitterqueenbecause even atheists can be kind, respectful and likeable. Doesn't mean they're saved. We should still pray in hopes the Holy Spirit will move upon them and lead them towards Himself.
How have I just found this guy! Spitting the truth!! Holy Spirit is using Preston. Wow. Lord bless him and keep him being used for your kingdom.
@Chitterqueen ,you are lost if you truly believe this.
Thank you so much for this video and speaking with the missionaries and the other two people. You are so kind and gracious to them. I was active Mormon for 39 years. Then 8 years ago the true Christ showed me what was really true in his word the Bible. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do to leave the LDS faith that I once loved and believed. I now attend a Bible believing church and read my Bible everyday.
Praise God ! He loves you so much !
@@Sariah07 Thank you
This was a Masterclass of preaching.
As a born again Christian living in Utah. I really appreciated this video. We are always on mission to plant a seed. Thanks Preston!
Here with you!
It’s called test of a prophet: the Bible vrs Joseph smith just Incase the link doesn’t work.
@@mae8859thank you for sharing I like learning about what others believe. Respect and learning is how we grow. I feel Preston did a great job asking questions. What makes Joesph a true prophet? Is there other accounts that tell his story other than the BOM?
Where do you go to church? Finding Jesus and finding a community post-Mormonism has been really hard (in Utah too).
@@yeshalloweenwhere do you go to church? My family out there started their own
I just did this with 3 Mormon elders a few days ago. I've maintained a stance of being open minded to keep them engaged and wanting to meet more. My intention is to plant seeds because I recognize that talking someone out of their religion is hardly ever effective for people heavily committed- such as being in the middle of a 'mission'. I'm meeting with them again next week. Hopefully, I can help them come to understand the real Jesus and His sovereignty.
No man hath seen God at any time.....
John 1:18
A profecy from the profet Alma 7:10 that Christ was going to be born in Jerusalem . didn't he ever knew about Bethlehem?
I pray God's favor over you!
@jobsalido4843 The verse you note from the Gospel according to John, in its original Greek, reads: "Θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε· ὁ μονογενὴς Υἱὸς ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο." Per my own translation, this translates to "No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has made Him known."
The essence of this passage is to communicate the incomprehensible and invisible nature of God the Father, who is made known to us through the Son, Jesus Christ. This is a profound mystery-that Christ is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation, as stated in Colossians 1:15.
Regarding the prophecy from the Book of Alma, I want to point out that the Book of Mormon is not part of the historical canon of Christianity and is not recognized as scripture by those adhering to historical Christian orthodoxy. As such, when Alma speaks of Christ being born in "the land of Jerusalem," this reflects a divergence from the biblical account, which clearly states in Micah 5:2, in its Hebrew text: "וְאַתָּה בֵּית־לֶחֶם אֶפְרָתָה צָעִיר לִהְיוֹת בְּאַלְפֵּי יְהוּדָה מִמְּךָ לִי יֵצֵא לִהְיוֹת מוֹשֵׁל בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל וּמוֹצָאֹתָיו מִקֶּדֶם מִימֵי עוֹלָם." This can be translated as: "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times."
This prophecy, penned centuries before the birth of Christ, specifies Bethlehem as the birthplace of the Messiah, which is fulfilled in the New Testament account of Jesus's birth in the town of Bethlehem, not Jerusalem. The distinction is important, as it validates the prophecy and the historical accuracy of the Gospel accounts.
Good job. You are so inspiring. I’m not sure I could do this effectively without getting confused or debating them, which isn’t fruitful.
@normiejeanj I respond with something they say that I find contrary to Christianity ("Biblical Christianity") with a format such as "I can appreciate that, but in the OT/NT, scripture says ______, which would lead me to believe __________, and that seems to be at odds with what your Book of Mormon / D&C scripture says, so how would you reconcile that?" I usually can visibly notice them becoming uncomfortable or uncertain and they'll even look at each other like "Ummmm you wanna take this? I got nothing". I've been in discussions with missionaries since 2022. But this is the first group I've chatted with that I feel I have a chance with because I have studied scripture much more diligently the last several months - Both OT and NT, and Book of Mormon, D&C, and their Articles of Faith; as well as other... interesting.. Mormon church history. If I made the conversations a debate, I am absolutely certain that they would remove me from their little list of people they give to the new missionaries to reach out to. I attend their church, I sit in on their 'elders quorum', and have a loose relationship with several members. Not because I'm truly open minded to their church, I am not at all, not even slightly, but because being similarly educated about their beliefs as the missionaries are, but 'still seeking my testimony to Smith and the Book of Mormon', allows me to be someone that they can know has the same experiences and knowledge as they do, in most ways at least, but still sees where their belief system is fundamentally flawed and my "questioning" of these things can become their questioning of these things, which is required for anybody to convert from one belief system to another. But my goal isn't to convert them, or argue, it is to have an honest and frank discussion about Christ, and help them to understand what a real Biblical Christian believes, contrary to what their false doctrine teaches. I myself have plenty left to learn, but becoming an expert of anything requires more than studying alone; it requires real-world practice. I look at preaching at a two part actvity: First, practice(PR). Whatever message you want to share, apply this message into your own life and live according to it. Second, T(Each). Teach this message, and how it has positively affected your life. In the case of LDS members, a lot of their testimony (I see them bear testimonies one after the other once per month, and sometimes one or two during a regular church service) revolves around how following their church's doctrines and ordinances has created a feeling of fulfillment in their lives to know that Jesus Christ is their savior, that Joseph Smith was a prophet from God, that prophets live today (their church presidents), and their church is the true and restored church of Jesus Christ. It's my intention to show them by my own practice that everything beyond Christ's revelation in the NT is unnecessary, and they're following a false christ who doesn't exist and the true christ will not know them when the day of the lord comes.
There is so much care and love here that Preston has for the LDS members. You can hear and feel it throughout the video. Keep having these conversations, Preston! Holy Spirit is behind this and we will see LDS members saved through this...even if it is one by one. Truth is breaking through all the lies they've been told. The light of Jesus's Word! Hallelujah! I loved watching this, and I am looking forward to more videos like this.
Preston this was the most amazing discussion with the LDS. You presented to them the gospel in a very respectful but truthful way. I am so proud of you, I’m so proud to call you my brother in Christ.
When I was Mormon I was taught and taught and taught from 1982 until 2015 that I brought all my ordinances and covenants and righteousness to heaven and then Jesus filled in the rest-- which- is totally different than being saved by Grace! Thank you Jesus for saving me!
We even had videos and primary lessons about that image so programed into me.
That is the fault of men. None of that BS you learned comes from the standard works: The Holy Bible, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price. The Book of Mormon is clear that grace is God's patience with us, and power working through us. We are saved through our faith in Christ. Our works represent how real our faith is. @@sassysweetsphynx6418
Amen. I almost get the feeling that these mormons keep back peddling what it actually says in their book. Am I wrong?
@@myonevoice1 The Book of Mormon has always said that salvation is through faith alone in Christ, that Christ died for all mankind's sins, and that God's grace is his patience with us, and power in us to do better.
Cornball
Thank you for doing this video. I was devout LDS for 34 yrs and now born again submitted to the biblical Jesus, praise God!
Most Mormons are sincerely nice people who strive to be Christ-like, but honesty don't know the Bible. They only know what they've been taught by the church.
My heart goes out to all my LDS friends, I was so blind for so long until I got deep into Gods holy word and completely surrendered my heart and life to the Lord.
How I wish someone had taken the time to show me the truth in such a kind, loving way.
God bless you. I'd love to visit your church sometime, I live outside of Atlanta.
Oh, the older couple came with the missionaries to help them answer the tough questions. I can tell theyre from Utah by their accents.
The missionary that did all the talking was the Sr. companion. The quiet one is Jr. companion who is new or "green" as they say. When you get 2 sets they know you know biblical scripture and have researched the lds church.
I went out with the sister missionaries often when I was Mormon. My husband was the Mission Leader so I was the "missionary Mom".
Thank you again for this amazing video.
The respect and kindness was such a beautiful thing.
How can you be born again if you were never Christian in the first place. You were baptized and joined the church for the first time. Not again. Congrats thou that’s beautiful
The Biblical Jesus is not a Triune Jesus. It is so sad to see people think the Bible says Jesus and the Father are one being instead of one purpose. They are making a impossible God.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 you’re lazy on the Bible. Doubt you even open it up
@@ICPinvestor Show me where it says Jesus is a Truine being with the Father and the Holy Ghost, exactly that way and I will admit to you that I am lazy on the Bible. Otherwise, sounds like someone is reading into the Bible to support something that not only isn't there but isn't true.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 hey dude: i am not going to waste my time
Showing you scripture that you will deny. You know of these scriptures already if you read both the old and New Testament. You are a fool
And I will not waste another sentence on you.
no man is needed because we have the holy spirit to guide and help us
We recently moved to Utah and I am always looking for loving examples of how to witness to elders when they come knocking. Thank you for this beautiful and respectful example. God bless.
I just give them one Bible verse and that Matthew 7:15 because that's exactly what Joseph smith was and politely shut the door.
When my sister was moving to Utah, we joked and said don't let them turn you into a mormon....sure enough she loved the people and joined their church in a short time. She liked that they lived their faith, which many professing Christians do not. We grew up Christian and she was baptized sometime around high school age. She moved out of Utah years and years ago, but has stayed in Mormonism. I keep praying the Holy Spirit will correct her and bring her out of it, but it's been almost 30 years. It makes me sad.
Scriptures Preston mentioned throughout the talk below! Pt 1
Isaiah 43:10 no other gods before me
Matthew 24:35 heaven and earth will pass away but my word will not
Matthew 7:15-20 you will know a tree by its fruit
Hebrews 4:14 we have a great high priest, who passed through the heavens, able to sympathize with us and we are able to go boldly to the throne of grace etc
John 8:58 before Abraham was I Am
John 19:30 the final work of Christ
Matthew 7:23 Depart from me I never knew you
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God is without repentance
Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord but it does not come to pass do not fear him
Deuteronomy 13:2 if a prophet tells you to serve other gods
Jeremiah 17:9 our hearts are deceitful
Contd-
Part 2
Galatians 1:8 Even if an angel from heaven preaches to you a gospel that is contrary to the one we preach let him be a curse
Ephesians 2:8-9 saved by grace through faith
Isaiah 64:6 our works are filthy rags
John 16:7 I am going away but I am sending a helper
So so good!!! Let’s get to studying y’all!! And remember to do this all with dignity, gentleness and respect.
Thank you
@@jamesthornton4751 you’re welcome!!
Thanks!
@@denno3124 you’re welcome!
Wow. Preston, you are a gift to our generation. Hearing you so respectfully and confidently speak the truth of scripture made my heart swell with pride in the God we worship! There is no one beside Him!! Praying that we can all approach people of different beliefs with this kind of loving boldness, and for the Spirit to reveal himself to all those who seek him.
Ooh Preston is one of the best conversations I have seen. Calm, respectful, plain, Bible. Know your Word Bible Study. 💜
This was refreshing to watch. Your kindness and efforts to dignify them was mind blowing. Your heart posture shows the love of Christ. May the Lord continue to bless you and your beautiful family.
This whole video made see I need get in the word more not just for other people but for Me!!!!! 😅mannn thank you so much for releasing this!!!🔥
People that are in a cult can't see that they're in a cult, they can't bring themselves to see they've been lied to. Good video.
Yes
WITCHCRAFT IS VERY POWERFUL
Only in America do ppl underestimate this
Praise be to God that His Holy Spirit has and can lead people out of deep deception! ❤
hmm. I think this comment kind of settles all my confusion. I am confusion. But I AM ALSO NOT IN A CULT. So what sounds crazy and fictious to me makes perfect sense to them
im in the cult of public education and i know its a cult 😂
Ecclesiastes 12: 13-14
13 ¶ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
I mean... That dark dark book, thanks for making it come to light! God works in mysterious ways! Amen. Many nations will be deceived, Mormons are a nation of people mentioned in the Bible! Prayers! So polite. Your delivery was 💯!
Two sisters are coming to my home this Sunday afternoon. Re-watching this to gain strength and ideas. Thanks for posting this. ❤ Prayers appreciated.
Just want to add in my two cents here. These young men on missions have very likely been taught these things from a very young age and have been taught that a mission is their duty to fulfill. These missions are hard and they are under immense pressure from their leaders and sometimes peers. Preston did a wonderful job being polite and loving please try to remember that not everyone that serves a LDS mission feels that they really have a choice being kind and trying to share your beliefs in a civil manner can really go along way. These Elders give up two years and 10,000 dollars to fulfill an obligation that has been heavily pushed on them. These are still just kids. Remember to be compassionate.
They have to pay?
Did you feel he wasn't compassionate?
The missionaries are not forced. We actually said are son could not go and we would be fine. He decided to go anyways. He has learned so much on his mission. More faith in God and Jesus, Learned a new language, learned the scriptures and the bible, met many different of all faiths. loves discussing things with people and service in all the areas he has been
@bignuffhomestead4771 i was reading about money and funding in the mormon church. Local churches give 100% of their tithe and offering money to headquarters. Headquarters gives them back whatever they deem necessary I suppose for overhead. The missionaries pay their own way AND the pastors or elders are volunteers!
@@bignuffhomestead4771 yes 10,000 dollars
Man, Preston, I pray that every Christian would be given the courage to sit with these people and be able to share the gospel like you have here. Armed with such truth! 🔥
It's a lie to say that LDS are outcasts. All of Christianity doesn't agree on everything. There are many different types of Christians. As a Latter-day Saint, I can tell you that The Book of Mormon supports what the Bible teaches: that Jesus is our Lord and Savior. We are saved through faith alone in Christ.
@@user-nk5bw8ml4z well to real Christians you are not a brother certainly not a brother to me. You jeed to turn from that satanic church and turn to the truth. Joseph Smith was a blasphemer and is in hell.
@@user-nk5bw8ml4zI’m sorry but I was raised in the Mormon church and your doctrine contradicts the Biblical truths. You believe in different degrees of heaven which then requires that heaven and salvation is NOT a based on Christ alone but that works are required. Christ is God… not our brother. And you believe we can attain godhood and rule our own planets. I was MORMON and Preston is addressing all these contradictory issues that are essential as a Mormon and therefore do not follow the basic gospel truth of the Bible,
@@vanbisquik You were a Latter-day Saint but did not understand your own theology. It’s understandable. Many don’t. Just like many Christians do not understand the Bible. The Book of Mormon says Jesus “comes to take away the sins of the world, yea, the sins of every man who steadfastly believeth on his name.”
We believe in three degrees of heaven. All who are faithful are saved and enter into one of the three heavens.
Real faith produces righteous fruit.
Sure, there are differences in our beliefs. We believe God revealed certain truths to the prophet Joseph Smith.
The Apostasy is that there is only one God - there are not multiple Gods to be worshipped. Isiah 43:10 - First and last God theology.
You did a fantastic job Preston! I love your focus and composure, and the relentless pointing back to truth. I loved the discussion about what they beleive about works vs what Ephesians clearly says. The most profound example of your argument (the real Truth), is the thief on the cross next to Christ. He was hanging by nails, and the only thing that he did to receive the words "today you will be with me in paradise" was acknowledge who Christ was as he was hanging on the Christ and putting his faith in Him. What works did the thief on the cross perform? Zero. Faith alone.
Blessings be upon you and your family. Thank you for your courage. It spurs me on
I like how this is a very respectful conversation.
i want to know the word this well, not to have an upper hand over anyone or anything but just to be able to tell and reflect & break the word down like that
Yessss sis, the Bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved. How can we share the gospel and share the TRUTH if we don’t know it?
Galatians 1:8 is the mic drop, so good! 🙌🏾 God is so faithful to provide literally everything we need in the Word, His word!
Paul was writing his letter to the Galatian churches and explaining that the Old Testament Jewish laws would not bring salvation. It's reported that the Galatians felt that Paul was being to soft on the Gentiles and not requiring them to follow many of the Jewish religious laws. This is contrary to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Salvation is only through the grace of God. They (and we) cannot be saved by any other means nor by any other name than Jesus Christ. The Jewish law would not save them. That gospel and good news is echoed in the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 11 RLDS (2 Nephi 25 LDS)
"Yea, behold, I say unto you, that as these things are true, and as the Lord God liveth, there is none other name given under heaven, save it be this Jesus Christ of which I have spoken, whereby man can be saved."
2 Nephi 7:42 RLDS
And remember after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved.
Mosiah 1:108 (3:12 LDS)
But wo, wo unto him who knoweth that he rebelleth against God; for salvation cometh to none such, except it be through repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Mosiah 1:116-118 (3:17-18)
And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given, nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent. For behold, he judgeth, and his judgment is just, and the infant perisheth not, that dieth in his infancy; But men drink damnation to their own souls, except they humble themselves, and become as little children, and believe that salvation was, and is, and is to come, in and through the atoning blood of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent:
@@JohnDrewDesigner What you have stated is false. Paul absolutely discussed the law in his letter to the Galatians. I could post the verses for you, but will leave you to search and find at least 25 references to the "law".
Your second issue is that you pretend that just the Bible is the totality of God's scriptures, yet no verse of the Bible says that. So what I stated is only heretical to your opinion and eisegesis and false tradition of men, but not to the true gospel and doctrine of Jesus Christ.
The Bible does not mention the word "Bible" nor does it pretend that God's words would be limited to just 66 scrolls of scripture. The earlier Ethiopian Christian Bible has 89 books...and that was compiled based on what was available to them 1800 years ago. Jesus Christ was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and that certainly included the lost sheep of the 10 lost tribes of Israel scattered across the earth. They too heard His voice.
Matthew 15:24
“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Luke 19:10
For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
John 21:25
"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."
2Esdras 13:40-45
Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria led away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land.
But they took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
@@JohnDrewDesigner How odd. You complain about sources not in the Bible, then you appeal to sources not in the Bible. The point of the scriptures I shared is to show you that God is not limited to Judea and limited to the Bible. I am a Bible believing Christian. I also am a Book of Mormon believing Christian. Both are scripture and are words of God and both share the gospel (good news) of Jesus Christ (who is God). Jesus Christ is the only name by which we can be saved.
2 Nephi 11 RLDS (2 Nephi 25 LDS)
"Yea, behold, I say unto you, that as these things are true, and as the Lord God liveth, there is none other name given under heaven, save it be this Jesus Christ of which I have spoken, whereby man can be saved."
2 Nephi 7:42 RLDS
And remember after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved.
Mosiah 1:108 (3:12 LDS)
But wo, wo unto him who knoweth that he rebelleth against God; for salvation cometh to none such, except it be through repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@JohnDrewDesigner You: "which is noted historically not just biblically". Here is you appealing to sources outside of the Bible. Then you claim you didn't. 🥴
The truth remains that there is no scripture pretending that all of God's words would be limited to "a Bible".
John 21:25
"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."
I just had a conversation with 2 lds “sisters” yesterday. I wasn’t perfect but I pray God plants the seed and they come to know the truth.
This was loving, brilliant, insightful, edifying and challenging. The grace and truth with which Preston approached this conversation inspires me to study more and more to grasp the fullness of the Gospel!!!! Thank you, sir
Preston, you are a loving, humble yet bold, Man of God! May your life, your family and your ministry be blessed! The Lord’s Will be Done.
Preston this is a Masterclass in apologetics that needs to be shared even in Bible Universities. Respectfully this is how you speak with grace and share the Gospel. I had to repent while watching this because of my ignorance of missing an opportunity God put in front of me to minister to 2 LDS members. I had no clue this was what they were about because they absolutely love Jesus Christ. I completely missed the opportunity and pray I may get another chance to plant a seeds. Thank you for walking with Boldness and love in your heart for truth.
No it isn't. It is creepy as hell. He secretly filmed two 18 year old boys who were there to share a simple message. They are not apologists. Also, Preston is clueless about the Book of Mormon and its connection to the Bible, as well as totally out of his element and clueless talking about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This wasn't a masterclass in apologetics. What a joke!
I'd like to see him have this same discussion with Ward Radio, Jacob Hansen, or CwikMedia. He would totally fail.
More power to you Brother.. To Repent Unto The One True Living God displays The Holy Spirit was teaching and presenting for your next time moment!!!👋😎🙏💪☝️👍 it's never about Us.. It's all about The Lord Jesus Christ📕🔍😊✊
@@ChrisClarkeArt the trinity of terrible mormon apologetics
@@BrendonKing I was just listing some content creators that would be better than ambushing young missionaries with a hidden camera. You opinion about them is not relevant to this conversation. Saints Unscripted would be fine, an actual apologist or professor would be fine as well, any of these options would be better than a creepy hidden camera discussion with missionaries who are just there to teach the first lesson from Preach My Gospel.
@ChrisClarkeArt I highly doubt any of them would be more "successful" than the 4 in this video. Like it says in Matthew 10:19
"But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak."
It's not Preston speaking but the Lord speaking through him.
RESPECT for you in doing apologetics mr. Perry. You are a true fisher of men my good sir🙏❤ God bless you brother
This was such a great conversation, and my prayer is that they will come to a knowledge of the truth.
I’m LDS and just wanted to say I really appreciated and was really impressed with your respectful approach. Thanks for sharing man.
Im praying for you bro
Do you have a way to reconcile those points he brought up to the other LDS members ?
@@TSatty they did a pretty good job of reconciling it themselves! I wouldn’t say this interview was a slam dunk for Preston. If anything, it really opened my eyes to the similarities between the two groups. Great interview
@@gabriellel268 they didn’t reconcile any of the text contradictions he brought up between the Bible and book of mormon. They go to their own testimony. He even brought up how they shouldn’t trust that type of answer from praying if it contradicts Gods previous revelation. We have so many manuscripts from the Bible we can bank on its authenticity and accuracy. It’s how we can tell some translations today aren’t too accurate. Like the JW bible. I don’t think they provided any solid answer to reconcile. While they did repeat some things that were close I’m not sure how they said on a few of them they don’t see the co tradiction.
@@TSatty Preston was clueless and it was creepy that he filmed them secretly. And your comments about the Bible and Book of Mormon are clueless as well.
18 year old volunteer missionaries are not apologists. Everything Preston said against the Book of Mormon is nonsense that has already easily been answered and disproven since the 1800s. They are the same failed arguments that were made by the "Good Christian" Protestant people who tormented, massacred, raped, and put out an Extermination Order on the early Mormon Pioneers in the name of Jesus.
Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to use you Preston! This was good. You’re definitely graced for this time. Be encouraged !
Praying for the LDS church & that God will reveal himself to them in a mighty way.🙏🏾
So glad you’re back! Truly inspiring.
He did, that's why I joined! 🙂
Thank you so much for your prayers for us living for Jesus in Utah. We need a mighty work of the Spirit here to shed the blinders and deception.
I needed this conversation. Raised LDS and knowing at the age of 12 it wasn’t for me. Now a first generation Christian, I hope one day to be as knowledgeable and peaceful as Preston to talk to my LDS family members.
One thing I would have said about salvation being given by works disagreement is one of the men dying on the cross with Jesus, before his passing he asked Jesus to remember him, essentially showing faith. This saved him in the last hours of his life. ❤️🔥 No works, just faith.
Im forever indebted to the grace God has given me, so that I may return to Him by faith alone.
❤ We all are.
That soda bottle example was Holy Spirit filled... pun intended lol. Imma have to use that analogy in a sermon if God permits. Such a good teaching moment.
I was just talking to some young ones yesterday. They agreed with everything i said but their pride didn’t allow them to admit contradictions. I planted the seed, that’s all i can do
You're right. Planting the seed is all we can do. Let the Holy Spirit do the convicting.
Your beliefs may match up with theirs more than you realize.
@@Skyesoceaneyes it doesn’t
As someone who had this conversation with the LDS as a 13 year old, got baptized there and discarded everything within weeks, I like this conversation.
Huh?
Non of that made any sense. You didn't have support or didn't stay in the church for long at that age I wouldn't of even baptize you unless you showed commitment or had family support.
I hope that you will someday return to Christ.
The important question is did you have your name removed from their membership numbers? They care about the numbers. I care about you, and hope that you will meet Jesus personally and have the Holy Spirit shaken and bubbling out of you like the soda can shared in the video.
you spoke truth with such grace brother perry!
This is one of the best (and most civil) discussions I’ve ever seen regarding the commonalities and distinctions between the LDS Church and Christians whose faith is completely derived from the Bible. The approach of all parties involved was extremely thoughtful and respectful. It’s so refreshing to listen to this kind of conversation, and I really appreciate the informative nature of the discussion. God bless you all.
Love seeing this on display
"but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect," - 1 Peter 3:15
I was baptized at 17 in the LDS church. Since then I have converted into Christianity. God used you so well as his vessel. I enjoyed watching this video. It inspired me so much. I def need to read more scriptures🤣👍.
Girl me too!!! I left a year ago!
@@sulllivanofficial5478 and @nataliabahrke7113 - The Book of Mormon is true, and another witness of the same gospel of Jesus Christ as the Bible. Joseph Smith was a true prophet who worshipped Jesus Christ. The church was infiltrated by wicked men. When Joseph Smith was murdered, Brigham Young usurped control of the church and led some of the saints to SLC, Utah (many refused to follow him). Brigham Young introduced many false doctrines into that denomination including polygamy, men becoming Gods, Adam God, blood atonement of men, penal oath temple rituals, a Heavenly Mother, Lucifer being Jesus' brother, incorrect definition of Christ’s church, etc. None of that is in the Book of Mormon or teachings of Joseph Smith, but Brigham Young and the wicked leaders under and after him have pretended that it came from Joseph Smith in order to gain acceptance for their own evil and lustful desires. The LDS church of today is Brigham Young's denomination and is apostate from the teachings of the church under Joseph Smith.
You haven't been converted from anything. You now know the truth. LDS is a lie and deception of the True Gospel
😢i do notice that mormon people can be vert polite and respectful. From young Robert.in australia.
This was wonderful. What I learned is that I have to study more so that I may have a deeper understanding of the word of God.
I’m 37 minutes in and just wanted to say this was absolutely fire. Thank you for posting this Preston, much appreciated fam
I left the Mormon church almost a year ago and am still learning. I appreciate how you explained the triune nature of God because that’s something I’ve struggled to understand. I understand it better now through your explanation.
I feel you so deeply on that. I too, struggle with the idea of the triune. But praying the Lord will renew my understanding each day. ❤
I am an extra LDS member the funny thing is, is that I never understood that the LDS trout things differently lol I recently talked with some friends that were still members to explain what they believed to me lol. I would just like to encourage you though. The truth is not elusive. If you seek God you will find him. Continue reading the Bible I have an app that has several translations of the Bible and for me that is very helpful. I know the Mormon church only likes the KJV but you can even go to we’re the Dead Sea scrolls are housed at museums and see their manuscripts translate with with google translate. If you are up for the extra research. That has helped me a lot though, anyways just some tips I also love pastors perspective here on TH-cam you can call in if you still have some questions. It is several pastors and super insightful
The triune God interpreted from the contentious council of Nicaea hundreds of years after the original writers of the New Testament? Good luck with fully understanding that interpretation
"For God is not the author of confusion" .... trinity is man made doctrine bro
Wow, how wonderful to see the ministry of apologetics in real time, and I love the mutual respect and honour that was seen through the LDS group and you....Praying that they and the LDS church receive Jesus as their Lord and saviour. Also I'm praying that you meet with some Hebrew Israelites and Rastafarians who are willing to sit down and have conversations with you, because I've noticed that there are a lot of people in the black community, especially black men that have turned from the faith and almost rejected Christ as Lord. It'll be so great to see more conversations so that more people can expereince the truth. God bless you Preston!
Bless you for sharing the real gospel of Jesus Christ with these members of the LDS church.
The Book of Mormon is true, and another witness of the same gospel of Jesus Christ as the Bible. Joseph Smith was a true prophet who worshipped Jesus Christ. The church was infiltrated by wicked men. When Joseph Smith was murdered, Brigham Young usurped control of the church and led some of the saints to SLC, Utah (many refused to follow him). Brigham Young introduced many false doctrines into that denomination including polygamy, men becoming Gods, Adam God, blood atonement of men, penal oath temple rituals, a Heavenly Mother, Lucifer being Jesus' brother, incorrect definition of Christ’s church, etc. None of that is in the Book of Mormon or teachings of Joseph Smith, but Brigham Young and the wicked leaders under and after him have pretended that it came from Joseph Smith in order to gain acceptance for their own evil and lustful desires. The LDS church of today is Brigham Young's denomination and is apostate from the teachings of the church under Joseph Smith.
This was so so good! This is the dialogue we need inside of the Christian community. There was so much grace and patience within this conversation. I pray the seeds you planted, Preston, grow into true repentance through Christ alone. 🙌🏽🙏🏼
Amen!!
Amen !
Preston is a generational treasure. May God continue to bless you.
Brother Preston!!! Thank you for this video, it was SO ENCOURAGING!!!!
Amazing. Thank you Preston.
this was sooooo powerful, insightful, convicting, and encouraging. i respect the young LDS elders for even engaging in this conversation and trying to stand their ground. It can be intimidating but they were bold and humble...wrong as two left shoes but definitely bold and humble. What I love about Jesus and the truth, is that it will always be proven through His word. It can't be tangled up only rejected. I pray these LDS elders will allow the Holy Spirit to illuminate the truth to their spirits and convert them to the life that Jesus truly called them to.
Amen, I'm agreeing with you in prayer!
“Wrong as two left shoes” 😂 That made me giggle. Love the expression.
Praying for these folks and for my own LDS family.
When it comes to the Holy Trinity, I saw the best, yet so simple explanation: water, steam and ice all variations, yet still water. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit all variations yet still GOD.
Insightful, Kind and Informative. This was great and how you upheld the word of the Holy Bible, while still being kind. God willing those LDS members get touched by the Holy Spirit after this.
God Bless 🙏🏾🙌🏾
That interpretation of the Godhead is not quite right. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are a high council of three separate distinct beings, two of them have immortal perfected resurrected tangible bodies of flesh and bone, for if the son inherited all things from the Father then that also includes inheriting a resurected body like the Father. The third member the Holy Ghost has a spirit body, but all three of them are united as being one in unity and harmony and purpose spiritually because their wills are all swallowed up in each other. The Father and Son are eternal spirits that are embodied. Their spirits are made of uncreated self-existing eternal intelligence..Stephen saw both the Father and the Son. And that truth that they are self-existing eternal beings is taught in Eccl 3:6 which teaches that God is eternal and everything he does is also eternal.
I used to say the same thing for a long time. I would want to encourage you to re-consider this, because this way of thinking is called "Modalism". Water can not take all three variations at once, when it becomes ice, it stops being liquid, and when it becomes steam it stops being ice. But God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all existing at the same time, one does not stop being one, to be the other. I hope that makes sense, I say this out of love. Thank you!
@@vadimdushuk Because the Son inherits the resurrection from God the Father who had sent him. The Father holds the keys.
There is the spirit of the Lord that radiates out from God the Father and fills the universe allowing the Father to know all things, and there is also the Holy Ghost the third member of the Godhead. who is a male spirit personage They are not the same they are two different things and this is where people get confused. The truth is the Godhead is one in unity spiritually but three separate distinct beings individually.
They work together as one God, short for Godhead. They are also self-existing beings of intelligence so they have no beginning or end. Have eternal natures.
So the one true God or Godhead is three distinct beings working together as one unit or team with the Father which we call the Godhead the High Council of Heaven to bring about his eternal will and purposes.
The Godhead is not one single member but has three members in it.
Because that oneness of spiritual unity is illustrated in the Lord's great Intercessory Prayer there's more than one member of the Godhead that is involved in this relationship. For Jesus invites all to join with him in this relationship he has with his Father so the saints can become just like he and his father are. That is the truth.
They are two separate beings because Christ is the Bridegroom and his Father is the King of Heaven whom he laid out the wedding feast out for. That is the Doctrine that Christ taught to become like him and his Father.
Jesus has someone else who was teaching him.
"When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I do NOTHING OF MYSELF: but as my Father hath TAUGHT ME, I speak of those things. John 8:28
54. If I honor MYSELF: my honour is NOTHING.
It is my Father that honoureth me, whom ye say is your God. John 8:54.
Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me believeth not on me but on him who sent me. John 12:44
So someone else other than himself had sent him.
And he drives this home when he says
'For I have not spoken of myself, but the Father which sent me, HE gave ME a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. )John 12:49.
ME AND HE TWO SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS.
Í am the true vine and my FATHER is the Husbandman.' John 15:1 But he made it clear that he keeps the commandments of another being other than himself when he said
"If ye keep my commandments ye shall abide in my love just as I have kept my FATHER"S COMMANDMENTS and abide in HIS LOVE.. John 15:10
28. I came forth FROM the Father, am come into the world: again, I leave the world and GO TO THE FATHER.
(John 16:28) The Father exists in a different location physically.
John 20:17 what he said to Mary at the tomb about having not yet ascended back again up to God.
False teaching: God can share his glory with nobody therefore man cannot become like God.
The Truth "22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given unto them, that they may be one, even as WE are one.' John :17:22.
''I in them and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one (so cannot become like God huh?) and that the world may know that THOU HAST SENT ME, and hast loved THEM as thou hast loved me.
1 Peter 5:6 'God exalts his saints by his own power.
Jesus also taught Íf I speak only of myself, then my word is nothing, "" he dosen't speak for himself but represents another person in authority.
Elsewhere he taught , MY Father is more greater than I.
@@germanslice I'm sorry but I'm confused, I believe God is one, in three persons, why are you speaking as if I'm against this?
@@vadimdushuk
The Father Son and Holy Ghost are a council of three distinct individual beings, also known as the Godhead. Or God for Short. The Father is an omniprsent being has a resurrected body with an omnipresent spirit that exists everywhere. The Son also has a resurrected body like onto the Father , and the Holy Ghost is a personage of Spirit. And that is why because they are separate beings is why the Son sits on the right hand of the Father in heaven, because they sit on two thrones in heaven ruling side by side. As the scriptures teach that the Son is raised up to dwell in glory with God the Father on his right hand. Sitting on The Right hand It a old term used in Royalty to describe a ruler who has been given equal power to the throne which is what God gave to his in Christ. The Prince of Peace the Mighty Counselor or in other words the Avocate to the Father sits upon his throne on the right hand side ruling next to the King of heaven and rules next to God the Father as his chosen Christ. For God choose Christ to sit next to him in power and glory making them equal joint heirs on the throne Rev: 3:21.
You cannot become a heir to the throne if you are the same person. The throne has to be given by someone else who is already seated in authority and power on the throne.... That is why Rev 3:21 tells you how Christ obtained his throne from God the Father by overcoming all things in order to inherit it.. And after getting his throne from God the Father, Christ now tells his saints to do exactly the same as he had done to obtain his throne and to also overcome all things as he overcame. Paul already knew about this inheritance and told the saints to overcome all things so they may win for themselves a crown in heaven which he Paul was still striving to obtain which he would get in the resurrection of the dead...
Excellent thank you for sharing Perry 🙏
We love you Preston thank you for changing the world
This random basketball made me smile. 🤣
same
I pray there are seeds sown that bear fruit - thank you so much for sharing this conversation and for having it 💛🙏🏾
ThNk you my friend for being so gracious, respectful and loving toward these people. I have learned a lot in how to reach people in a loving way. I appreciate you. God bless
This is tremendous! I appreciate the graceful and respectful interaction.
I'm 44 minutes in and I am just so grateful for this beautiful demonstration of contending for the faith, saturated in love for Jesus and a love for mankind. This conversation is FULL of patience, FULL of gentleness, FULL of respect...a picture of a follower of Christ, sharing the gospel of Christ, while also looking like Him. This is such an encouragement and a blessing.
This was beautifully written
So beautifully said!! I agree!
Please please please pray for my friend Joseph. He is a close friend and co-worker, I believe that God put me in his life in order to preach the gospel to him…well last week after weeks of prayer I finally did. It didn’t go well but it didn’t go terrible either. I am so thankful for brother Preston because hearing him witness confirms that it’s through the same Spirit that links all of us to Jesus that speaks through us and testifies about Christ! My conversation went really similar to this one and I am overjoyed to see that the Word of God is still alive and active. As I continue to witness the Jesus of the Bible to Joseph please keep me and him in prayer! Love joy and peace be with you all! Mahalo Preston!
You planted the seed and opened the door for potential future conversations - so that’s pretty awesome. I met with a couple LDS missionaries a couple months ago and I felt it didn’t go too well either. I listened to them share the whole time and then when I started to share the gospel, they had to run. But I’m praying at least something stuck in their mind by the questions I was asking. I will pray for Joseph.
Father! Wipe the scales from their and turn their hearts from stone to flesh. Snacth them from the kingdom of darkness and bring them to your light. Father as young men we claim their souls for your kingdom and for the fulfillment of your purpose for them on this side of heaven mighty God!
Thank you for your son Preston who you have shaped and molded and readied for such a time as this. Protect him Father place your hege of protection around he and his family. These mercies I ask in Jesus our Christ name. Amen
Great conversation! Very helpful! Thank you for sharing.
My dad did this more than once , he's a very curious man just like you Preston. We even went to their church to see how they worship. It opened my eyes and fortified my faith in Jesus Christ and His word . We compared scriptures just like this too
Preston's patience and love shown here even in defending the faith is saluted. I appreciate the efforts sir. And I believe God is pleased as well.
In the book of Revelation, it says, God's Word
The Bible is Holy Scriptures do not add other Books.
I enjoyed this very much! So much speaking the Truth in Love! Thank you!!!
So good! You had such long suffering and kindness. Great job, proud of you my brother in Christ!
I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH
Oh, really? Tell us more! I'm always interested in hearing success stories.
It's Renee Marie Harrison doing, she's changed my life.
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
I do know Renee M. Harrison, I also have even become successful....
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Renee Marie Harrison.
Very inspiring my brother. Just watching the Lord use you and referencing back in forth with scripture was exciting. I was geeking out. I’m inspired to put in the work as far as reading more and studying deeper into Gods word. This was definitely a blessing to me. Thank you for what you do for the faith. 🙌🏽✊🏽👊🏽🙏🏽✨
born and raised in utah. i was never raised mormon, but i wasn’t raised anything else either. i found a nondenominational church last march and im just learning where the line between LDS doctrine and the doctrine of the bible separates. i am studying for my own growth and so i can lovingly and powerfully minister to all of my LDS friends who so deeply need to turn from their disorientating church. pray for the LDS church members!
Thank you for being courageous enough to have this conversation. Really enjoyed this.
This was so wholesome. I love how they listened to you with so much curiosity and respect. I could see they were thinking a lot!!! This was very encouraging.