Thanks to you, my dell G7 7590 with an i7 9750H went from a 30% overthrottle down to 1 percent! My cinebench r20 score went from 2400 to 3k! Running faster and cooler than ever! Thanks!
Bob Of All Trades 23.6K subscribers Great laptop as long as you can embrace a few things! EDIT: As of July 2019 BIOS 1.09 removed the ability to max out the fans via fn-q or ctrl-shift-1 Performance Tuning Guide www.youtube.com/watch?v=14o69...
@@joerylarvinganalon4717 I have the G7 and did undervolt the CPU and CPU Cache to -150. I also did Limit the IccMax to 80.00A Now I have 80°C instead of 99°C under 100% CPU.
The easiest way to avoid a BSOD-on-boot situation with Throttlestop other than not using 'save voltages immediately' option is to tune the undervolt on a different profile (e.g. #2) than the one set to load on boot (e.g. #1).
If you increase the ThrotleStop turbo power limits and the CPU continues to throttle, you should try using the FIVR - Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits option. Intel CPUs have a duplicate set of power limits. Checking this option takes care of the secondary power limits on most computers. After that, you should be able to use the ThrottleStop TPL window to control the primary turbo power limits without the secondary power limits getting in your way. Thanks for sharing. Great to see ThrottleStop working correctly on Intel's latest CPUs.
i'm using HP Pavilion Gaming 15 with i7 9750h and Gtx 1660ti. i tried core and cache offset like in this video, so far so good. Can maintain aroun 3.4-3.7 ghz full load with max temps 84c. but i can't get rid of the power limit. even with your method. thanks tho
@@hendystark8333 I have the same laptop. Care to share your throtlestop settings? Also, battery power, do you have it on high performance or balanced? Thanks!
@@felipebarrera3060 mine is balanced, as throttlestop, everything at stock except core and cache offset at -160. as bob said, i don't recommend you copying my setting as it's silicon lottery.
It makes me laugh when people complain about laptop fans being "too loud" when cooling systems are trying to give you more power, less heat, and better performance.
Thank u so much for the tutorial.I just bought the legion y545. The temps average around 94 celsius during gaming.. Now after the under volting its around 78-81 celsius.Thanks again for taking the time to do this video. Using -125 without any issues
@@MTCypher it depends on the on the cpu. I pushed it till I got the blue screen. I'm running it at-175 plus open Lenovo advantage software and change it to quiet performance. Plus change your power settings 5o balanced on windows. I did alot of testing now my top temp is 80 while playing cs go or tf2. Hope it works. You will not lose performance. My framerates are in the 200-280.
Hey, Thank you for this great video. I was hitting 92-99C before, after under-volting my CPU, it is 70-83C, I can play game without any worries now... Thank you so much
intel xtu worked early spring. Now July i started getting throttling and high temps.. So i used throttle stop and did it your way. now i am back to 4 ghz under stress but have way better thermal performance even while running benchmarks. amazing how u can have problem solved then it gets hot outside and all of sudden u have to adjust for that... obviously xtu was too limited to help me anymore... thanks BOB
Great news omg. I have an HP Omen cb0050nr with 9750h and full rtx 2080. Even with the undervolt shown here same settings, my cpu was hitting 98 and even 100 deg C in Aida 64 extreme stress tests. Today i changed my factory thermal pastes both cpu and gpu to Cooling Master Maker Nano Gel. Now cpu temps never go above 88 degree c. I can’t believe how important a thermal paste is. I have zero throttling in Aida 64 stress test, ran it for half an hour. This is amazing. The thermal paste and undervolt did the trick.
my ACER Helios Predator 300 the 2019 75DE model (i7-9750H with RTX 2060) is already undervolted -125, going to try 170 even though your laptop did 250. As you've mentioned each laptop mfr. configuration is going to be different. I think the manufacturers should include a copy of the Under Voltage Performance Tuning Guide with all laptops. It is strange with all the years of OVERCLOCKING we're going to Under Volt to make your CPU function better and cooler. OCing was about increasing multiplier, base clock and BIOS voltage settings while freezing your CPU with Liquid Nitrogen. Since both have a different goal in mind also with some common goals … we just want a decent high frequency, maintain stability and not hinder CPU life longevity. We ought to forget about Benchmarks and focus on passing Stress Tests to ensure our PC's function as it should. The Numbers Game of who has the Highest or Best Score is a Kids Game. Spend $6,000 to have the best of everything and next week someone spent $6,500 to notch one more point to you making you 2nd best …. anyone in for a game of Leap Frog ?
I also have the same model. Set mine to -0.170 and it’s running well with no issues. Did you make any other changes to your settings? I’m experiencing Power Limit Throttling but can’t seem to find a sweet spot to help resolve that issue.
Wow great content man!!! I just picked up a MSI GS75 with 2070 Max Q to review, Im gonna have to start tweaking with it to see how close i can get to your firestrike scores. I'm always amazed by your content keep it up! Cheers!
This has been my go to guide since I started messing with my laptop. I hope we get a updated guide for the 11,12 and 13th gen intel as well. As for AMD chips, a guide will also be nice as I dont really see any guides out there for it. Nice content as always! You are a treasure to us who have been living the laptop life.
Ryzen mobile tools are unavailable because AMD hasn’t provided the ability to control anything in their bios. In other words, there’s nothing hidden in their bios. Ryzen mobile at 20w is the sweet spot. UV for intel past 10th gen hasn’t offered much improvement as their voltage tolerance has been very tight. I hope that offers some insight.
@@BobOfAllTrades btw bob I've been meaning to ask, I was able to undervolt my msi gt 75 titan rtx 2080 with the i7 8750h for all 6 to run 3.9 ghz. I've seem to hit a wall. Any advice? The previous owner tweaked the TPL 1 and 2 both to 200. I'm kinda afraid to change it as I don't know what the original values were. Hope you can help me on this one
For the people wanting to just make the fan go jet mode. I used intel XTU. Set core voltage offset to -0.125 V and Turbo boost power max to 10 W. You can probably increase the turbo boost power max a little bit more, but I havent taken the time to look into i. Either way, by decreasing the Turbo boos power max, the fan speed dropped fully
Jokes on you. I keep my head shaved so you aren't blowing my hair anywhere. Great stuff as always. Interesting to see such different results. Should be interesting to see how others perform once they start releasing.
Hi Bob! Tnx for the amazing tutorial. I have a Lenovo Legion Y7000 (i7-9750h, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, RTX 2060, gaming only on external 1080p monitor, bought it a few weeks ago ). I have a cooling pad and enough space arround it to 'breathe'. I also wanna change thermal paste after corona crisis (dont wanna do it myself and risking losing the warranty). Before this my temps were going crazy while gaming (90+ all the time). After watching this I did next: 1. Locked all frequencies at max of 3.7 GHz (I was most happy with temps at this frequency) 2. Undervolted cache to -120 and core to -350 mV 3. Locked turbo power limits both to 60 (TPL part in Throttlestop) 4. In Afterburner i've locked GPU at ~ 1300MHz (tip from your video also, 2nd part when we choose frequency and then lock it manually with Ctrl + L) My score with settings above was 2862 in Cinebench R20, max temps were 81. I don't have any kind of throttling. While gaming, temps are usually arround 75 CPU and 60 GPU. Best score I've manage to hit on Cinebench was 3019 with lock on 4Ghz on all cores, but temps were arround 90 so I didn't like that. One question tough - while gaming (Escape from Tarkov) I can see CPU ussage is ~20% only while locked all the time at 3.7 GHz. GPU usage is ~ 60%. FPS (custom settings) is between 75-125 (depends from map). Is this CPU usage kinda normal or I did something wrong? I did enabled only physical cores in the game settings, but with that off CPU usage is also hanging at that percentage. Tnx again for all tips and tricks, stay safe!
First off, thank you SO much for this walkthrough. Very easy to follow and informative (never dealt with a "power" laptop before or ever worried about laptop undervolting before so this was just what the doctor ordered. But I am finding my particular case pretty odd. I have a G7 7790 with an i7 9750H. It was running hot til I undervolted with throttlestop and some pretty low/safe "Turbo" settings but I wasn't going to mess with it any more until I repasted the CPU/GPU. 2 Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8's and some Kryonaut later and I'm now going at it but I am getting some readings here that are completely atypical compared to what you show in your video that I wanted to inquire about. So, with AIDA64 running (Stability/stress test), I currently have Throttlestop set to 45/45/44/44/43/43 Turbo Ratio limits, undervolted .127mV on CPU core and CPU cache, TPL set to 52/80/28 and Speed Shift set to 1-45. With these settings and AIDA64 running, I'm getting 3.990Ghz (not ~4.3Ghz that I would expect considering the Turbo Ratio) but the crazy thing is that CPUID HM says my Package power draw is only ~16W, max 38W and temps don't go over 75C average.....WTF? Your laptop was pulling 50+W with about the same settings. When My CPU gets to 70-75C the fans kick in and it quickly drops back down to 55-60C but the CPU speed and power draw stay roughly the same. Any ideas whats going on as this seems very odd that I am drawing so little power per your example and yet getting almost the speed I would expect at decent temps. Please advise, and thanks again, and sorry for the book!
Oh God...Nevermind. I apparently didn't hit "Start" on AIDA64....the stress test was never running. Reverting back to safer settings and trying again....My bad.
Hey Im having the same as you, when on 100% cpu usage it only gets 3.9ghz eventhough I already set the turbo ratio to 45 and speedshift 1-45. Is it the max speed achievable or do I need to repaste my thermals first?
i'm using hp pavilion gaming 15 with 17 9750h and gtx 1660ti. with same offset as yours, i can get around 3.4-3.7ghz full load with 84c max temps. i can't use the fan button like you said because this laptop don't have it. and already tried FIVR disable lock and lock turbo power limit like in a comment in this video said, but the max power still in 45. but at least it's better now. thank you!
I re-pasted an Asus GU502GV (newer Zephyrus M series), which has an i7-9750H and RTX 2060. Thermals haven't really improved, but I believe that's due to thermal pads I used that were not similar to the kind that came stock (gel-like pads that were probably applied as a paste). I'm thinking I'm going to have to undervolt to prevent CPU thermal throttling. Not sure how to address power limiting though. Also, Asus has their Armoury Crate software with some cpu/gpu profiles, "Windows", "silent", "performance", "turbo", and "manual". I'm afraid messing with throttle stop will cause issues, as these "profiles" are tied to some version of Intel's XTU. I believe the "windows" profile is a passthrough mode, from what I've read online. I would most likely have to leave it on the windows profile and THEN try and mess with TS. I'll attempt another thermal paste with some Noctua NT-H2 and some K5 pro liquid thermal pads (which mimics what came stock)....
Hi Bob, I hope this finds you safe and doing well. I'm interested in a guide on how to optimize the 9750H CPU for single core clocks, specifically speaking for those who play MMOs where the single core boost is the main determining factor in getting the highest FPS. I did some googling around that subject and was able to get 4.3-4.4Ghz ST on my omen 15T with background apps running by using TS and ParkControl. But I'm pretty sure more can be done.
My results on the Lenovo Y740 & 9750H Stock - AC Sereral seconds of hitting Turbo wattage limit 90W - effective 40x multiplier Continues wattage hitting limit 70W - effective 34x-35x multiplier Stock - Battery Continues wattage hitting limit 42W - effective 26x multiplier Undervolted - AC - cache -135mv / cpu -400mv* Turbo & continues using only 66W - continues effective 40x multiplier! Battery Wattage 21W - effective 23x multiplier * This value is "somewhat applied". It gives slightly better in wattage (1.5Watt) when set to -400mv or -1000mv than having it matched with the cache of -135mv. No mather how low, the CPU won't crash, some other factor is preventing it for going to low. I also started out lowering only the CPU voltage, and that got me half way, so it's doing someting when it's not linked to the cache voltage, but it's mechanic is very unclear to me. I had a few issues getting Throttlestop starting at startup correctly. At one point, the undervolt didn't apply completly and was not visible on the taskbar, but still running in the background. But after following every instruction to the letter, it worked. Saving is huge on the undervolt The temporary Wattage limit of 90W is never used, and now contentiously hitting it's max. 6 core turbo of 40x wile only using 66W. Before it was only capable of 40x during a few seconds of 90W, while getting close to 95*c and thermal throttling while fans where speeding up. Not it's quiter, only hitting 80*c max. On battery with the same undervolt profile it's a bit slower, 23x instead of 26x, but only using 21W instead of 42W, so a 50% save on power usage compared to stock for only a slight performance decrease. I basically get 90W stock 40x boost performance for 66W undervolted continuously 40x. going lower with the cache that -135mv made the cpu give errors on TSbench and sometimes crashes on normal use. For now -135mv seems stable, and I think overall a good piece of silicon. Cine-bench R20 score - stock 2550, undervolted 3016 This is including the temporary boost, in longer benchmarks the difference would be even bigger.
Well, i have a dell G7 with this processor. So ofcourse i have an overheating issue (all drivers and BIOS up to date). Followed this tutorial and others, but problem persists. For example, as point of reference i will take CS-GO (because that stress test is using the proc differently and we need real life scenarios). On CS-GO, CPU Utilisation ( Intel XTU) would be aroung 30% and temperature will rise imediately to 100 degrees. So, i did all this in this tutorial, only difference is that its not anymore flat on 100 degrees, and sometimes for few seconds goes down to 97-95. Only real thing that showed a drastic improvement is changing the Icc Max (down ofcourse ) but then i get the Curent Limit throtling warning ( Intel XTU ). So...this tuning its not quite working properly for me (i do not understand how it works for other people). Meanwhile, i called Dell Tech Support to ask about this issue, and they said clearly that they know about the issue and they offered to take the laptop into service, which i refused because they would take it to Poland and i live in Switzerland (a lot of time). BUT....i also read regarding the thermal paste issue and people sayng that they changed it and no problem after that without any undervolting. They guy from Dell Support told me that i will not lose the waranty if the laptop is opened and the thermal paste changed !!! Meanwhile, as a clear workaround for this piece of shit engineering, at least for CS-GO and Dota2, was to disable boost from Throtlestop (or BIOS, your choice) and now everything runs smooth (ofcourse 2.6 Ghz - natural frequency of the CPU) without overheating. I really do not know if i should accept running like this or to change the thermal paste for using the boost EMBEDED FUNCTIONALITY :). Any opinions?
So, this is a specific case of the turbo fan button working to raise the turbo boost long power max, but am I wrong in assuming this will not work in most other laptops? I thought you were going to check "disable and lock turbo power limits" to get that wattage up. I would like to see a true apples to apples comparison of the 8th gen/9th gen, with comparable wattage pull on both and tested in similar (if not identical) thermal environments. Exceptional video as always!
Stephen Athon This is not a video on comparing last generation and this generation CPUs. This a simple tutorial to help people get a little bit more out of their CPU when it comes to tuning. Nothing more nothing less.
Undervolting is always a good idea as long as you’re comfortable with it. Some laptops need it more than others and the recent Raider that I covered was completely fine without it however.
I use the same CPU I7 9750H and undervolted down to 0.160 and have my Watts up on 55. Max Temperature on my Acer Nitro 5 AN517 51 is at around 80 Celcius now.
@Bob Of All Trades How I should settings on BIOS on my XPS 15 7590 (i7 9750H): - Intel Speedstep: - C-States Control; - Intel Turboboost; - HyperThread Control; - Intel Speedshift Technology?
Question! I just got my self a Lenovo Legion Y540 with an i7 9750H now i understand from this is that this help clock speeds under stress load but does it apply to gaming load as well? from what i know is that different type of loads cause the cpu to act differently. so maybe it will run slower when undervolting during gaming? i don't have much knowledge with laptops i mostly work with desktops so im new here. i'm already seeing around 3.8Ghz when gaming without any modifications. i have not tried stress testing. From what i expect that lowering the voltage would cause the cpu run slower but here we see an improvement which to me makes no sense, but alright. Thanks!
The reason for the improvements on mobile CPUs is because they’re power limited unlike desktops. If these mobile chips were uncorked they’d pull 90w. Of course they’d overheat too. However due to this in general we have a certain wattage that we’re working with. So by lowering the voltage, the overall power consumption of the chip is maintained which means were going to get a frequency boost in many scenarios. This wouldn’t work this way if these CPUs only needed 45w to perform at their absolute maximum.
@@BobOfAllTrades This is definetly interesting. I managed to follow the video and ended up with -0.160 on the core and -0.100 on the cache and the clocks are staying at 3988 across the cores without a single crash or freeze. I havent gone lower as it seems like i wont gain anything at this point. I might have a decent chip :) Thanks for the explenation!
Hey Bob, I recently got a Y545 with the same 9750-H processor, I wasnt able to fully see everything that you tuned during your review on the Y545, is there a chance you can tell me how far you undervolted it to get that better performance tuned 9750-H? Thank you!
So all you did was press the laptops build in fan over ride button to crank the fans up to 100%? Then it allowed the higher TDP? Its not clear what you did at 7:08 - also not all laptops have a dedicated fan button
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks still doesn't help me as my laptop doesn't have a fan over ride button and there's no way to force the fans to 100% as far as I know?
Thanks I could push my processor speed from 3ghz to 3.3 ghz. But I cant go further than that . The wattage doesnt increase , also i dont have a dedicated fan button.What should I do ?
Bob you are amazing my dude. Thabk you very much for all your hard work and information you are sharing with us. Any good options for someone like me with a locked voltage on my ASUS ROG SCAR II (GL704GW)? Anything else other than enabling speedshift and popping it up to 140-160? I cant roll back my bios btw.
Undervolting the core without touching the cache (because I didn’t know at the time) can it cause “CPU Cache L0 error”? This error in HWiNfo 64 is racking up and since there is no over lock I was wonder if the under volt might be the cause
This the great video, thank, but i have an asus with i7-9750h and it have a turbo mode, when i turn on the turbo mode the freq of my laptop in range about 3900 to 4100 MHz , so i ask is that the best setting i can get? Or i can get more with this method? Thank you if you read this bob
Mustafa Alramis exactly, I think they are undervolted by default. My g531gw on turbo mode was at 3.9 to 4.3 GHz, it was not stable. But right after i was using the throttlestop, it became stable at 4.1 Ghz. So, based on my exp, this software only works for stability, because asus, ROG specifically, is already fast enough by default 🙏🏼
Hi Bob I was 2nd person copying pasting xD as my initial thought were to get the best heat reductio. Possible at 30-33°c idle speeds and 60-70°c max. But after having to learn to custom undervolt the gfs laptop i want to increase fine tune mine again and your video is perfect! But can I get your opinion and pick your brain even further? I have an Acer predator helios 300 17 inch with the same I7-9750h 6 core processor. My FIVR cores are all set to 34 and my undervolt is set to -125 (about to test -250). My TPL is 24 over 24 instead of 60 over 80. All my cores are 3391.70Mhz. Also I should mention I have speedshift set on and to 0 from 128. So ideally I'd want to increase my 3.4ghz higher with minimal heat. Thank you so much for the tutorial you got a suscriber, very clear and concise videos.
I have an i7-8750H running in a Clevo chassis that's undervolted -0.150v and pulls 80W power draw during Cinebench R20 runs. My best score is 3090. This is with Noctua NT-H1 paste and standard air cooling. I think they injected it with steroids! Zero thermal or power throttling, 3.9GHz steady! Temps never pass 80C.
I have a question Bob, I can see that you have unchecked your speed shift function. Is that beneficial? Some other videos set their speed shift to 0 for max performance and higher for lower temps and clocks. What do you recommend?
I remember seeing this vídeo to get my 9750H undervolted... After a bios update, years ago, there's is no more ability to undervolt normally... Is there any way to go back to the old BIOS to get undervolt options enabled again?
little help please first time undervolting i7 9750h model legion y540.(performance mode with lenovo vantage) hybrid mode on, power cable plugged aida64 running on background I used throttle stop to undervolt to -150.4 cache/core and intel gpu to -125 1. speed shift unchecked temperature reaches mid 90s, clocks around 3.9Hz, package power 69-73W thermal thottle(red/yelloww) PL1(red/yellow), edp others(red) were shown in limit reasons. fan is running full speed during this test 2. speed shift checked with value 0, temperature reaches 85 to mid 90s clocks reaches around 3592-3692, package power 69 -71W thermal thottle(yelloww) PL1(red), edp other(red) were shown in limit reasons. fan is running full speed during this test 3. And speed shift checked with value 128, it clocks 2993 , temp around mid 70s , package power around mid 40s W. thermal(yellow), PL1(yellow), PL2(yellow), VR current(yellow), EDP other(yellow) fan running minimal during this test is this a success ?
Got the lenovo 17 irhg , 9750h,16gigs, 1tbssd, 2060rtx, it seems undervolting to -0125mV, doesn’t seem to do anything , some cores still hit the 97C spot, then throttle and so on. What works is from power plan set max cpu stat in 99%, it stays in 2.6ghz and 65-70C. That works for me fine. I’d still want to hit 3.5ghz but dunno how.
Alex Zax Lenovo removed the max fan capability. It’s not going to run as cool now. Plus the 2060 with 9th gen pulls 10 more watts versus the 2060 with the 8th gen GPU. It’s going to run hotter now.
@@BobOfAllTrades before the update bios I had fn+q and worked ok , now it seems is the same with vantage app but fans doesn't stay at max speed if cpu is low , anyway found out a hidden win 10 power management (cpu state in Mhz) I found a site where I had a cmd solution and put a new tab in power options for MHZ and set it to 3700 MHz and I don't go past 85C . heaven on my y740 9750h,rtx2060,16gb ram,1tbssd. (17IRHg model) now I love it more. also before this I tried XTU -0.125 cache+cpucore (can't set indivudally) and a maxpboost 60W and short power boost 65W and worked really well. but powerplan option 1 is better.
forgot to tell ,i have coolerpad , and u have to disable turbo short boost power. with 3.7Ghz max cpu plan , I did an undervolt -0.125V in xtu and it seems i am at 80C . i'll let it rest at 3.5ghz and get under 80C , i'm done . works wonders , btw thx for the video Bob.
I'm from India and I'm waiting for your reviews of the Zephyrus M and Zephyrus G laptops from Asus. These are primarily the two choices I have right now. I'm leaning more towards the G because all the reviews say the M runs hot and in a country like mine, the room temperatures are always warm or hot. But the dilemma I have with the G is that it's not available in India and I have to get it from the US for which I won't have warranty. So I'm really in a fix.
Does throttlestop need to run at all time in The background to keep The voltage settings? Or can you turn it off? Wanted too see temp difference on/off and performance.
Hey I am trying to run a 9900ks in an x7c sky from eurocom and it's been a bit of a challenge (which I knew full well when I bought it). When I bought it, the default configuration was a 50mv undervolt, but was thermal, PL1, and current limit throttling. I underclocked the boost to 4.8 Ghz and used a -140 Mv undervolt with current limits increased and a new PL1 of 150W and it was stable for about 4 months (using the massive power supply), which removed all throttling. Unfortunately after a blue screen the PL1 was no longer wanting to stick at 150W and is now stuck at 95W, so I had to reoptimise a new undervolt which ended up only being 4.7 Ghz stable. Any ideas what might cause the hardcap of PL1 to shift so massively?
Hello, thank u for this video. I understand all topics, but what about turbo ratio limits? In my processor i can check overclock options. What does it means that? Also, in turbo overcloking show +6. I hope something can help me understand that. See you and thanks
what do you guys think is the best undrervolting settings for my predator helios 300 im having problems with extreme heat while playing games and ive heard undervolting can help fix that but im not too sure what my machine actually can take and not
hai, I have the Omen DH0105TX model which has i7-9750H and RTX 2060. undevolting it -125, When testing CPU streesing, the clockspeed is 3.9-4.0 hovering int that speed and testing around 30 min, and the max temperature around max 91 degree. this i test in aircondition room temperature. the story begins diffrently when streesting test CPU and GPU.CPU basicly runs at 100% but clock speed of CPU drops to 3.6 - 3.7 after 10 min and ther GPU temperature is 75 dgree. but the max cpu temperature is 100degree max...any idea how to set so that the CPU does not throttle down? please help...thanks.
Hey, im using i7 12700h cpu which has fivr locked. I can only change TPL. Can you please help me with what numbers should i start trying? It is set to 90 pl1 & 115 pl2 by default. My laptop is getting to 95 degrees celcius on even light gaming.
My Turbo boost long power max is default 60 but I woke up this morning and it's now stuck in 45 watts. I noticed some performance changes and mad how it's locked. Lenovo legion y545
I have a HP Omen AN053NR with i7 7700hq and GTX 1070. From gaming to using folding@home my cpu get up to 97 Celsius. How and what's the lowest voltage to keep it from getting hot?
what to do when my cpu is not supported. i have an amazing issue . i have an acer aspire 7 whit a ryzen 5000 series cpu that constantly overheats, i cant tune it in no program, not in bios not anywhere , and after a bit of working my laptop gets a bsod and shuts down, i drop frames in alot of games and cant play games i used to play no problem. i have open and cleaned it many times but no resault. i am considering a termal paste change but its been just a year and i dont know if its needed, nor i have the money for a new pack. i need help, please help
I am currently running a Razer Blade 15 Advanced i7-8750H w/ RTX 2060. Using your advice I was able to eliminate thermal throttling when using the 3D Mark Time Spy & Fire Hawk Benchmark by undervolting my CPU cache and core -125mV. However, after seeing this video I decided to try the Aida 64 test you were demonstrating and take a harder look at my clock speeds as well as temps. Running Aida 64 almost immediately started causing two of my cores to thermal throttle and for the first time I saw the Package/Ring Thermal Throttling say yes even with my fans set to manual at full speed? Any advice or other things I could tweak in Throttle Stop?
I bought my Legion Y740 with i7-9750h and 1660ti recently and my temp goes 94 degree Celsius when gaming, so i undervolted it to -125 and still the temp are same 94 degree Celsius. What should i do?? I even bought a cooling pad but no use.
I have a 2019 predator helios 300 with this cpu, factory undervolted at -0.125. My issue is power limit throttling which i believe may be contributing to unnecessary cpu temps..
Thanks for the vid, will be trying this on my new MSI and upgrading the CPU compound. Any idea how one could disable 3 of the 6 cores to get best battery life for a scenario where you are on a plane and want to get the longest batt life possible?
Isn't the long power max meant to be higher than the short power max? I see people with 100 for PL 1 and less for PL2, it's confusing I wish I could find a better guide there only seems to be basic ones online.
does the max 17 2070 not 10th gen apply to this? i am unable to undervolt pass -0.050v through the bios... and xtu and throttle stop doesnt seem to respond to my changes
Bob How are you? I enjoy your videos and had a question. I'm getting 4k MHz across the cores, Core temps 65-75 celsius while gaming. Any reason I need to undervolt or do any of the suggestions you have in your video? Thanks for your time.
Hello Bob, I recently got a Razer Blade 15 base with a 9750h and a RTX 2060 GPU. I follow your previous method on the 8750H and use it on my laptop. Did seem to drop the temps at max CPU from 85c down to 75-80c and still retain the clock at 4gigahertz. I'm not 100% on all the technicalities of UV or OC anything. Would you say that my temperature is normal?
nice, what im trying to do is get my temps when playing below 80 degrees, i see the main culprit in rising temps in the laptop is intel turbo boost, disabling it fixed it, but obviously, i dont want to disable it neceserally, so i made the turbo boost power limits low enough, that its always underclocking itself, to not reach that temp (since i cant underclock it directly because thats locked). Does this sound reasonable?
Hi there! I would like to ask you if it's allright to follow the undervolt CPU and the GPU guide on my laptop, it performs well, max temps 80-85 degrees but I want to lower them for long-term performance.. I have the next laptop -> ASUS ROG Strix G G531GV Intel® Core™ i7-9750H - GeForce RTX 2060. I can't wait for your answer ! Thank you and great tutorials..
So if I do the undervolt of 8750h guide and the gpu one should I undervolt max 0.50 max? I saw on other vids to 0.100 on different laptops, asus ones does not support that much. If i leave it as it is should be ok.. thanks and I really don t know what to do
@@speedylordinc.3748 hey man. So my undervolt now sits at -140mV and I'm using Balanced mode. That seems to be the sweet spot. If I use perfomance mode, my CPU cooks over 90 degrees. With Balanced, it doesn't go over 90
Hi Bob, I have some overheating shutdown from gaming recently but just before I try undervolting my i9750H ROG Scar 3 for the first time, do I follow your setting advice in the i8750H video? (0 Speed Shift - EPP and BD PROCHOT unticked.)
I'm having a problem with hp omen with same cpu, in benchmarking it reaches 3.8 ghz (manually limited frequency by me) but in games it only gets 2.9-3 ghz, and wattage limits itself at 20 watts, sometime 25. The only solution I have found is enabling high perfomance mode in battery settings but it makes my cpu run at 3,8 ghz constantly no matter if its idle or game, definetely not temps (75 max after 2 hours of cyberpunk 2077), any solution?
my cpu watt wont go up even after the dedicated fan button is turned on. However, I did realise that my miscellaneous only have a max 45 whereas yours is 255. Plus, my initial TBL/TBS Power Max is only at 45/56. Any ideas how can I increase the cpu watt?
NEED HELP! I don't know ANYTHING about undervolting... i need my laptop to run cooler big time as its currently hitting 80-90c when gaming and i'm scared for the components. I just bought the ACER Predator Triton 500 with intel i7 9750h RTX 2060 16gb ram & 1TB ssd. Heard some scary things about undervolting and don't want to turn my new $2,220 laptop into a paperweight! if anything should go wrong will i be able to restore my laptop to factory settings?
Your temps are good "out of the box" temps. Not sure what you have heard about undervolting but it is pretty much safe. Search "address that hot i7 8750h", its good and well explained guide 🙂 Edit: *throttlestop guide
Hello, I have a problem. My i7 9750h temperature is really messed up! When I play a game, lets say cod, the cpu goes to 90 degree in less than 3 seconds, which is totally unhealthy. When I change the power settings from 100% to 99%, the temperature while gaming goes from 90 to 68 degree, but the clock speed becomes limited to only 2495 (no noticable changes in the game fps) . Is there a fix for this? The cpu can goes to 4500, but having it limited to only 2495 kinda sucks. Mine is an msi gl65 9se, I7 9750H, 24g ram and an rtx 2060.
Thanks to you, my dell G7 7590 with an i7 9750H went from a 30% overthrottle down to 1 percent! My cinebench r20 score went from 2400 to 3k! Running faster and cooler than ever! Thanks!
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Great laptop as long as you can embrace a few things!
EDIT: As of July 2019 BIOS 1.09 removed the ability to max out the fans via fn-q or ctrl-shift-1
Performance Tuning Guide www.youtube.com/watch?v=14o69...
did do the same thing what he did ??
the power package of mine is 18-24
@@joerylarvinganalon4717 I have the G7 and did undervolt the CPU and CPU Cache to -150. I also did Limit the IccMax to 80.00A Now I have 80°C instead of 99°C under 100% CPU.
@@Sphexist but the power package in the cuid is just 20.w ? how is that ?
@@joerylarvinganalon4717 You won the silicon lottery it seems.
The easiest way to avoid a BSOD-on-boot situation with Throttlestop other than not using 'save voltages immediately' option is to tune the undervolt on a different profile (e.g. #2) than the one set to load on boot (e.g. #1).
This was great! I've got my 9750H running at clock speeds that are roughly 600-700mhz faster than before, so thank you!
Hey how much down did u decrease the voltage i have the same cpu please let me know.
ankush bastola im at 798mhz
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Thanks! If TH-cam doesn’t work out maybe one of these companies has a proper use for me 👍
Bruh this lighting makes your head look like you turned on rtx XD
It’s a work in progress. I’m a one man show lol
I watch people for good content not for good audio and visual quality. Ahem ahem pewdiepie ahem ahem.
@@yeetusfungus3007 the sad truth is that most people click off if the audio isn't good :/
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Thank you so much for your help!!!It works perfectly on my system!Much
lower temps and a significant increase of fps!This is great!
Glad to hear it 👍
If you increase the ThrotleStop turbo power limits and the CPU continues to throttle, you should try using the FIVR - Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits option. Intel CPUs have a duplicate set of power limits. Checking this option takes care of the secondary power limits on most computers. After that, you should be able to use the ThrottleStop TPL window to control the primary turbo power limits without the secondary power limits getting in your way.
Thanks for sharing. Great to see ThrottleStop working correctly on Intel's latest CPUs.
i'm using HP Pavilion Gaming 15 with i7 9750h and Gtx 1660ti. i tried core and cache offset like in this video, so far so good. Can maintain aroun 3.4-3.7 ghz full load with max temps 84c. but i can't get rid of the power limit. even with your method. thanks tho
@@hendystark8333 I have the same laptop. Care to share your throtlestop settings? Also, battery power, do you have it on high performance or balanced? Thanks!
@@felipebarrera3060 mine is balanced, as throttlestop, everything at stock except core and cache offset at -160. as bob said, i don't recommend you copying my setting as it's silicon lottery.
What would you set them at to give a good boost
aren't you the person who created Throttlestop? Unclewebb?
I’m the fourth type of person who just come here to see Bob
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@@gamersanditparadise watched too many kids saying that 😂
@@therealb888 Tally Ho seems to be a kid as well 😛 after all we havent seen his face reveal yet.
7:08 😂
I knew you’d appreciate that 😀
It makes me laugh when people complain about laptop fans being "too loud" when cooling systems are trying to give you more power, less heat, and better performance.
wait if jarrod's tech is watching this imma definetly try this method out btw grat wideos jarrod if thats your real name
Thank u so much for the tutorial.I just bought the legion y545. The temps average around 94 celsius during gaming.. Now after the under volting its around 78-81 celsius.Thanks again for taking the time to do this video. Using -125 without any issues
for me y545 cpu core -200 and cpu catch -125 temperature around 85-90c
Thx for the info because I had pushed it -175 with no issues. I'm going to -200. Thx again
@@nomad10002 I've the same y545 what do u recommend -175 or -125 pls reply
@@MTCypher it depends on the on the cpu. I pushed it till I got the blue screen. I'm running it at-175 plus open Lenovo advantage software and change it to quiet performance. Plus change your power settings 5o balanced on windows. I did alot of testing now my top temp is 80 while playing cs go or tf2. Hope it works. You will not lose performance. My framerates are in the 200-280.
@@nomad10002 it's an i7 9th gen
Fixed my 2020 MSI GL75 9SDK would run at 90c just sitting at main screen. Now barely hit 70c . Thanks for the great lesson. Great stuff!!
Hey, Thank you for this great video.
I was hitting 92-99C before, after under-volting my CPU, it is 70-83C, I can play game without any worries now... Thank you so much
whats you setting
@@joerylarvinganalon4717 u cant copy setting, because every laptop had different engine
increasing torbo limit value only changes the performance not the temperature right. Plz replay
This was very helpful, gonna try this on my 8750h, thanks and another great vid as always
Love your work man, such great guides! keep on keeping on
intel xtu worked early spring. Now July i started getting throttling and high temps.. So i used throttle stop and did it your way. now i am back to 4 ghz under stress but have way better thermal performance even while running benchmarks. amazing how u can have problem solved then it gets hot outside and all of sudden u have to adjust for that... obviously xtu was too limited to help me anymore... thanks BOB
Great video...hopefully you will be the next known as bobtuneverything for notebook systems.
Excellent! Exactly what I was looking for when deciding if I will buy my Helios 700 with a 9759h or 9980HK
i dont understand anything becouse i speak spanish xD. wathever, excelent video, i will see this again and again to understand!
But you're commenting in English
@@xbrus1132 Google translate is a thing
Great news omg. I have an HP Omen cb0050nr with 9750h and full rtx 2080. Even with the undervolt shown here same settings, my cpu was hitting 98 and even 100 deg C in Aida 64 extreme stress tests. Today i changed my factory thermal pastes both cpu and gpu to Cooling Master Maker Nano Gel. Now cpu temps never go above 88 degree c. I can’t believe how important a thermal paste is. I have zero throttling in Aida 64 stress test, ran it for half an hour. This is amazing. The thermal paste and undervolt did the trick.
Hello, i'm back from the ThrottleStop video and grateful for this one. More food for the algorithm! Thanks again BOAT.
my ACER Helios Predator 300 the 2019 75DE model (i7-9750H with RTX 2060) is already undervolted -125, going to try 170 even though your laptop did 250. As you've mentioned each laptop mfr. configuration is going to be different. I think the manufacturers should include a copy of the Under Voltage Performance Tuning Guide with all laptops. It is strange with all the years of OVERCLOCKING we're going to Under Volt to make your CPU function better and cooler. OCing was about increasing multiplier, base clock and BIOS voltage settings while freezing your CPU with Liquid Nitrogen. Since both have a different goal in mind also with some common goals … we just want a decent high frequency, maintain stability and not hinder CPU life longevity. We ought to forget about Benchmarks and focus on passing Stress Tests to ensure our PC's function as it should. The Numbers Game of who has the Highest or Best Score is a Kids Game. Spend $6,000 to have the best of everything and next week someone spent $6,500 to notch one more point to you making you 2nd best …. anyone in for a game of Leap Frog ?
how did it go?
Yeah, I'd like to know as well.
I also have the same model. Set mine to -0.170 and it’s running well with no issues.
Did you make any other changes to your settings?
I’m experiencing Power Limit Throttling but can’t seem to find a sweet spot to help resolve that issue.
thank you for this educational video. Hope you do more of these type of videos in the future.
Wow great content man!!! I just picked up a MSI GS75 with 2070 Max Q to review, Im gonna have to start tweaking with it to see how close i can get to your firestrike scores. I'm always amazed by your content keep it up! Cheers!
This has been my go to guide since I started messing with my laptop. I hope we get a updated guide for the 11,12 and 13th gen intel as well. As for AMD chips, a guide will also be nice as I dont really see any guides out there for it. Nice content as always! You are a treasure to us who have been living the laptop life.
Ryzen mobile tools are unavailable because AMD hasn’t provided the ability to control anything in their bios. In other words, there’s nothing hidden in their bios.
Ryzen mobile at 20w is the sweet spot.
UV for intel past 10th gen hasn’t offered much improvement as their voltage tolerance has been very tight.
I hope that offers some insight.
@@BobOfAllTrades my brother gave me a asus ROG strix 15 with the new 12th gen i9. Im guessing I should start at -10 mv then? jaja
@@graelstream2353 if you’re looking to improve thermals, drop PL1 and PL2, or just the power limits on that chip to 35w
@@BobOfAllTrades btw bob I've been meaning to ask, I was able to undervolt my msi gt 75 titan rtx 2080 with the i7 8750h for all 6 to run 3.9 ghz. I've seem to hit a wall. Any advice? The previous owner tweaked the TPL 1 and 2 both to 200. I'm kinda afraid to change it as I don't know what the original values were. Hope you can help me on this one
Wow what an interesting topic right there so wattage is linked with fan speed. Thanks for sharing that info
For the people wanting to just make the fan go jet mode. I used intel XTU. Set core voltage offset to -0.125 V and Turbo boost power max to 10 W. You can probably increase the turbo boost power max a little bit more, but I havent taken the time to look into i. Either way, by decreasing the Turbo boos power max, the fan speed dropped fully
Jokes on you. I keep my head shaved so you aren't blowing my hair anywhere.
Great stuff as always. Interesting to see such different results. Should be interesting to see how others perform once they start releasing.
Lol
Hi Bob! Tnx for the amazing tutorial. I have a Lenovo Legion Y7000 (i7-9750h, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, RTX 2060, gaming only on external 1080p monitor, bought it a few weeks ago ). I have a cooling pad and enough space arround it to 'breathe'. I also wanna change thermal paste after corona crisis (dont wanna do it myself and risking losing the warranty). Before this my temps were going crazy while gaming (90+ all the time). After watching this I did next:
1. Locked all frequencies at max of 3.7 GHz (I was most happy with temps at this frequency)
2. Undervolted cache to -120 and core to -350 mV
3. Locked turbo power limits both to 60 (TPL part in Throttlestop)
4. In Afterburner i've locked GPU at ~ 1300MHz (tip from your video also, 2nd part when we choose frequency and then lock it manually with Ctrl + L)
My score with settings above was 2862 in Cinebench R20, max temps were 81. I don't have any kind of throttling. While gaming, temps are usually arround 75 CPU and 60 GPU. Best score I've manage to hit on Cinebench was 3019 with lock on 4Ghz on all cores, but temps were arround 90 so I didn't like that.
One question tough - while gaming (Escape from Tarkov) I can see CPU ussage is ~20% only while locked all the time at 3.7 GHz. GPU usage is ~ 60%. FPS (custom settings) is between 75-125 (depends from map). Is this CPU usage kinda normal or I did something wrong? I did enabled only physical cores in the game settings, but with that off CPU usage is also hanging at that percentage.
Tnx again for all tips and tricks, stay safe!
CPU utilization is based on total core/thread usage. That title is likely only using a few cores.
@@BobOfAllTrades Tnx for info and fast reply :)
First off, thank you SO much for this walkthrough. Very easy to follow and informative (never dealt with a "power" laptop before or ever worried about laptop undervolting before so this was just what the doctor ordered. But I am finding my particular case pretty odd. I have a G7 7790 with an i7 9750H. It was running hot til I undervolted with throttlestop and some pretty low/safe "Turbo" settings but I wasn't going to mess with it any more until I repasted the CPU/GPU. 2 Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8's and some Kryonaut later and I'm now going at it but I am getting some readings here that are completely atypical compared to what you show in your video that I wanted to inquire about. So, with AIDA64 running (Stability/stress test), I currently have Throttlestop set to 45/45/44/44/43/43 Turbo Ratio limits, undervolted .127mV on CPU core and CPU cache, TPL set to 52/80/28 and Speed Shift set to 1-45. With these settings and AIDA64 running, I'm getting 3.990Ghz (not ~4.3Ghz that I would expect considering the Turbo Ratio) but the crazy thing is that CPUID HM says my Package power draw is only ~16W, max 38W and temps don't go over 75C average.....WTF? Your laptop was pulling 50+W with about the same settings. When My CPU gets to 70-75C the fans kick in and it quickly drops back down to 55-60C but the CPU speed and power draw stay roughly the same. Any ideas whats going on as this seems very odd that I am drawing so little power per your example and yet getting almost the speed I would expect at decent temps.
Please advise, and thanks again, and sorry for the book!
Oh God...Nevermind. I apparently didn't hit "Start" on AIDA64....the stress test was never running. Reverting back to safer settings and trying again....My bad.
Hey Im having the same as you, when on 100% cpu usage it only gets 3.9ghz eventhough I already set the turbo ratio to 45 and speedshift 1-45. Is it the max speed achievable or do I need to repaste my thermals first?
Hey, did you find safer settings or are these settings fine for the same pc?
Love you you man thanks for your support❤
i'm using hp pavilion gaming 15 with 17 9750h and gtx 1660ti. with same offset as yours, i can get around 3.4-3.7ghz full load with 84c max temps. i can't use the fan button like you said because this laptop don't have it. and already tried FIVR disable lock and lock turbo power limit like in a comment in this video said, but the max power still in 45. but at least it's better now. thank you!
THX BROTHER, GREAT INFO! REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO!
I re-pasted an Asus GU502GV (newer Zephyrus M series), which has an i7-9750H and RTX 2060. Thermals haven't really improved, but I believe that's due to thermal pads I used that were not similar to the kind that came stock (gel-like pads that were probably applied as a paste). I'm thinking I'm going to have to undervolt to prevent CPU thermal throttling. Not sure how to address power limiting though. Also, Asus has their Armoury Crate software with some cpu/gpu profiles, "Windows", "silent", "performance", "turbo", and "manual". I'm afraid messing with throttle stop will cause issues, as these "profiles" are tied to some version of Intel's XTU. I believe the "windows" profile is a passthrough mode, from what I've read online. I would most likely have to leave it on the windows profile and THEN try and mess with TS. I'll attempt another thermal paste with some Noctua NT-H2 and some K5 pro liquid thermal pads (which mimics what came stock)....
Core temperature around 36-38°C with cores at 4.191Mhz with my MSI i79750h and no fan noise at all. It's a beast, very happy. Guess it could be worse.
What MSI model you have?
Thank you, very understandable guide.
I got a Lenovo Y540 with the i7-9750H and GTX 1650 for $800 CAD back in boxing day last Black Friday. Hoping use this info to try undervolting...
2:49, video starts here
Hi Bob, I hope this finds you safe and doing well. I'm interested in a guide on how to optimize the 9750H CPU for single core clocks, specifically speaking for those who play MMOs where the single core boost is the main determining factor in getting the highest FPS.
I did some googling around that subject and was able to get 4.3-4.4Ghz ST on my omen 15T with background apps running by using TS and ParkControl. But I'm pretty sure more can be done.
My results on the Lenovo Y740 & 9750H
Stock - AC
Sereral seconds of hitting Turbo wattage limit 90W - effective 40x multiplier
Continues wattage hitting limit 70W - effective 34x-35x multiplier
Stock - Battery
Continues wattage hitting limit 42W - effective 26x multiplier
Undervolted - AC - cache -135mv / cpu -400mv*
Turbo & continues using only 66W - continues effective 40x multiplier!
Battery Wattage 21W - effective 23x multiplier
* This value is "somewhat applied". It gives slightly better in wattage (1.5Watt) when set to -400mv or -1000mv than having it matched with the cache of -135mv.
No mather how low, the CPU won't crash, some other factor is preventing it for going to low.
I also started out lowering only the CPU voltage, and that got me half way, so it's doing someting when it's not linked to the cache voltage, but it's mechanic is very unclear to me.
I had a few issues getting Throttlestop starting at startup correctly. At one point, the undervolt didn't apply completly and was not visible on the taskbar, but still running in the background.
But after following every instruction to the letter, it worked.
Saving is huge on the undervolt The temporary Wattage limit of 90W is never used, and now contentiously hitting it's max. 6 core turbo of 40x wile only using 66W.
Before it was only capable of 40x during a few seconds of 90W, while getting close to 95*c and thermal throttling while fans where speeding up.
Not it's quiter, only hitting 80*c max.
On battery with the same undervolt profile it's a bit slower, 23x instead of 26x, but only using 21W instead of 42W, so a 50% save on power usage compared to stock for only a slight performance decrease.
I basically get 90W stock 40x boost performance for 66W undervolted continuously 40x.
going lower with the cache that -135mv made the cpu give errors on TSbench and sometimes crashes on normal use. For now -135mv seems stable, and I think overall a good piece of silicon.
Cine-bench R20 score - stock 2550, undervolted 3016 This is including the temporary boost, in longer benchmarks the difference would be even bigger.
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Man, I've seen you on every lenovo legion review or related to this processor lol Please can you share your undervolt settings or do you have discord?
Love your videos! Subbed :)
Well, i have a dell G7 with this processor. So ofcourse i have an overheating issue (all drivers and BIOS up to date). Followed this tutorial and others, but problem persists. For example, as point of reference i will take CS-GO (because that stress test is using the proc differently and we need real life scenarios). On CS-GO, CPU Utilisation ( Intel XTU) would be aroung 30% and temperature will rise imediately to 100 degrees. So, i did all this in this tutorial, only difference is that its not anymore flat on 100 degrees, and sometimes for few seconds goes down to 97-95. Only real thing that showed a drastic improvement is changing the Icc Max (down ofcourse ) but then i get the Curent Limit throtling warning ( Intel XTU ). So...this tuning its not quite working properly for me (i do not understand how it works for other people).
Meanwhile, i called Dell Tech Support to ask about this issue, and they said clearly that they know about the issue and they offered to take the laptop into service, which i refused because they would take it to Poland and i live in Switzerland (a lot of time). BUT....i also read regarding the thermal paste issue and people sayng that they changed it and no problem after that without any undervolting. They guy from Dell Support told me that i will not lose the waranty if the laptop is opened and the thermal paste changed !!! Meanwhile, as a clear workaround for this piece of shit engineering, at least for CS-GO and Dota2, was to disable boost from Throtlestop (or BIOS, your choice) and now everything runs smooth (ofcourse 2.6 Ghz - natural frequency of the CPU) without overheating. I really do not know if i should accept running like this or to change the thermal paste for using the boost EMBEDED FUNCTIONALITY :). Any opinions?
So, this is a specific case of the turbo fan button working to raise the turbo boost long power max, but am I wrong in assuming this will not work in most other laptops? I thought you were going to check "disable and lock turbo power limits" to get that wattage up.
I would like to see a true apples to apples comparison of the 8th gen/9th gen, with comparable wattage pull on both and tested in similar (if not identical) thermal environments.
Exceptional video as always!
Stephen Athon This is not a video on comparing last generation and this generation CPUs. This a simple tutorial to help people get a little bit more out of their CPU when it comes to tuning. Nothing more nothing less.
usefull guide, as im planning to get myself an asus gx701 with the i7 9750h and rtx 2080 max q, undervolting might be good in this laptop too
Undervolting is always a good idea as long as you’re comfortable with it. Some laptops need it more than others and the recent Raider that I covered was completely fine without it however.
Great video! Helped with my asus tuf laptop
I use the same CPU I7 9750H and undervolted down to 0.160 and have my Watts up on 55. Max Temperature on my Acer Nitro 5 AN517 51 is at around 80 Celcius now.
@Bob Of All Trades How I should settings on BIOS on my XPS 15 7590 (i7 9750H):
- Intel Speedstep:
- C-States Control;
- Intel Turboboost;
- HyperThread Control;
- Intel Speedshift Technology?
Question! I just got my self a Lenovo Legion Y540 with an i7 9750H now i understand from this is that this help clock speeds under stress load but does it apply to gaming load as well?
from what i know is that different type of loads cause the cpu to act differently. so maybe it will run slower when undervolting during gaming? i don't have much knowledge with laptops i mostly work with desktops so im new here. i'm already seeing around 3.8Ghz when gaming without any modifications. i have not tried stress testing.
From what i expect that lowering the voltage would cause the cpu run slower but here we see an improvement which to me makes no sense, but alright.
Thanks!
The reason for the improvements on mobile CPUs is because they’re power limited unlike desktops.
If these mobile chips were uncorked they’d pull 90w. Of course they’d overheat too.
However due to this in general we have a certain wattage that we’re working with. So by lowering the voltage, the overall power consumption of the chip is maintained which means were going to get a frequency boost in many scenarios.
This wouldn’t work this way if these CPUs only needed 45w to perform at their absolute maximum.
@@BobOfAllTrades This is definetly interesting. I managed to follow the video and ended up with -0.160 on the core and -0.100 on the cache and the clocks are staying at 3988 across the cores without a single crash or freeze. I havent gone lower as it seems like i wont gain anything at this point. I might have a decent chip :)
Thanks for the explenation!
Hey do you have discord which I can ask a few questions about your Lenovo I have the same laptop and would like some help if you dont mind
@@aaash3842 sure u can give me ur discord ill add u and message u
@@aladdad1 #Vik7887
Hey Bob, I recently got a Y545 with the same 9750-H processor, I wasnt able to fully see everything that you tuned during your review on the Y545, is there a chance you can tell me how far you undervolted it to get that better performance tuned 9750-H? Thank you!
Every laptop will be different. Trial and error 👍
hope TH-cam algorithm can help you. You're awesome
So all you did was press the laptops build in fan over ride button to crank the fans up to 100%? Then it allowed the higher TDP? Its not clear what you did at 7:08 - also not all laptops have a dedicated fan button
3:25
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks still doesn't help me as my laptop doesn't have a fan over ride button and there's no way to force the fans to 100% as far as I know?
Thanks I could push my processor speed from 3ghz to 3.3 ghz. But I cant go further than that . The wattage doesnt increase , also i dont have a dedicated fan button.What should I do ?
im not able to undevolt cause its says my cpu is locked. what can i do
Bob you are amazing my dude. Thabk you very much for all your hard work and information you are sharing with us.
Any good options for someone like me with a locked voltage on my ASUS ROG SCAR II (GL704GW)?
Anything else other than enabling speedshift and popping it up to 140-160?
I cant roll back my bios btw.
Undervolting the core without touching the cache (because I didn’t know at the time) can it cause “CPU Cache L0 error”?
This error in HWiNfo 64 is racking up and since there is no over lock I was wonder if the under volt might be the cause
When i open throttlestop, all of the options in the FIVR are basically locked, how do I unlock them?
This the great video, thank, but i have an asus with i7-9750h and it have a turbo mode, when i turn on the turbo mode the freq of my laptop in range about 3900 to 4100 MHz , so i ask is that the best setting i can get? Or i can get more with this method? Thank you if you read this bob
Fernando Iskandar same question here, I heard asus laptops are hard to undervolt
Mustafa Alramis exactly, I think they are undervolted by default. My g531gw on turbo mode was at 3.9 to 4.3 GHz, it was not stable. But right after i was using the throttlestop, it became stable at 4.1 Ghz. So, based on my exp, this software only works for stability, because asus, ROG specifically, is already fast enough by default 🙏🏼
Hi Bob I was 2nd person copying pasting xD as my initial thought were to get the best heat reductio. Possible at 30-33°c idle speeds and 60-70°c max.
But after having to learn to custom undervolt the gfs laptop i want to increase fine tune mine again and your video is perfect! But can I get your opinion and pick your brain even further?
I have an Acer predator helios 300 17 inch with the same I7-9750h 6 core processor.
My FIVR cores are all set to 34 and my undervolt is set to -125 (about to test -250).
My TPL is 24 over 24 instead of 60 over 80.
All my cores are 3391.70Mhz.
Also I should mention I have speedshift set on and to 0 from 128.
So ideally I'd want to increase my 3.4ghz higher with minimal heat.
Thank you so much for the tutorial you got a suscriber, very clear and concise videos.
I've got a similar setup! How did your tuning go?
Bob please shot a clip about overclocking ram in this particular machine !!
I have an i7-8750H running in a Clevo chassis that's undervolted -0.150v and pulls 80W power draw during Cinebench R20 runs. My best score is 3090. This is with Noctua NT-H1 paste and standard air cooling. I think they injected it with steroids! Zero thermal or power throttling, 3.9GHz steady! Temps never pass 80C.
Tobimaru that’s pretty good for an 8750h. That’s what the 9750h pulls consistently 👍
Hey bob, do you gonna review the new Zephyrus with amd on it? nice video as usual!
I absolutely hope to! I’m very excited about it 🤛
I have a question Bob, I can see that you have unchecked your speed shift function. Is that beneficial? Some other videos set their speed shift to 0 for max performance and higher for lower temps and clocks. What do you recommend?
I remember seeing this vídeo to get my 9750H undervolted... After a bios update, years ago, there's is no more ability to undervolt normally...
Is there any way to go back to the old BIOS to get undervolt options enabled again?
why i cant change my offset in this program ??? done everything in video :/ msi gl65 9sd , overclocking turned ON in bios ...
little help please first time undervolting
i7 9750h model legion y540.(performance mode with lenovo vantage) hybrid mode on, power cable plugged
aida64 running on background
I used throttle stop to undervolt to -150.4 cache/core and intel gpu to -125
1. speed shift unchecked temperature reaches mid 90s, clocks around 3.9Hz, package power 69-73W
thermal thottle(red/yelloww) PL1(red/yellow), edp others(red) were shown in limit reasons. fan is running full speed during this test
2. speed shift checked with value 0, temperature reaches 85 to mid 90s
clocks reaches around 3592-3692, package power 69
-71W
thermal thottle(yelloww) PL1(red), edp other(red) were shown in limit reasons. fan is running full speed during this test
3. And speed shift checked with value 128, it clocks 2993 , temp around mid 70s , package power around mid 40s W. thermal(yellow), PL1(yellow), PL2(yellow), VR current(yellow), EDP other(yellow) fan running minimal during this test
is this a success ?
Bob a great fan over here! I would like to see a review about what would be a great machine for video editing. Thanks in advance.
I talked about this not long ago. Have a look th-cam.com/video/-InoZlCfC6A/w-d-xo.html
Got the lenovo 17 irhg , 9750h,16gigs, 1tbssd, 2060rtx, it seems undervolting to -0125mV, doesn’t seem to do anything , some cores still hit the 97C spot, then throttle and so on. What works is from power plan set max cpu stat in 99%, it stays in 2.6ghz and 65-70C. That works for me fine. I’d still want to hit 3.5ghz but dunno how.
Alex Zax Lenovo removed the max fan capability. It’s not going to run as cool now. Plus the 2060 with 9th gen pulls 10 more watts versus the 2060 with the 8th gen GPU. It’s going to run hotter now.
@@BobOfAllTrades before the update bios I had fn+q and worked ok , now it seems is the same with vantage app but fans doesn't stay at max speed if cpu is low , anyway found out a hidden win 10 power management (cpu state in Mhz) I found a site where I had a cmd solution and put a new tab in power options for MHZ and set it to 3700 MHz and I don't go past 85C . heaven on my y740 9750h,rtx2060,16gb ram,1tbssd. (17IRHg model) now I love it more. also before this I tried XTU -0.125 cache+cpucore (can't set indivudally) and a maxpboost 60W and short power boost 65W and worked really well. but powerplan option 1 is better.
PS : also tried a test in XTU for 5minutes and no thermal throttle or pwr throttle. hope it will save a lot of guys with this info.
forgot to tell ,i have coolerpad , and u have to disable turbo short boost power. with 3.7Ghz max cpu plan , I did an undervolt -0.125V in xtu and it seems i am at 80C . i'll let it rest at 3.5ghz and get under 80C , i'm done . works wonders , btw thx for the video Bob.
I'm from India and I'm waiting for your reviews of the Zephyrus M and Zephyrus G laptops from Asus. These are primarily the two choices I have right now. I'm leaning more towards the G because all the reviews say the M runs hot and in a country like mine, the room temperatures are always warm or hot. But the dilemma I have with the G is that it's not available in India and I have to get it from the US for which I won't have warranty. So I'm really in a fix.
Unless a miracle happens the only model I’ll be covering is the 531G with a 1660 ti and i5 9300h
Should I undervolt my cpu and cache the same amount or it doesnt matter? (Y740 9750h)?
Does throttlestop need to run at all time in The background to keep The voltage settings? Or can you turn it off? Wanted too see temp difference on/off and performance.
It should be on
Hey I am trying to run a 9900ks in an x7c sky from eurocom and it's been a bit of a challenge (which I knew full well when I bought it). When I bought it, the default configuration was a 50mv undervolt, but was thermal, PL1, and current limit throttling. I underclocked the boost to 4.8 Ghz and used a -140 Mv undervolt with current limits increased and a new PL1 of 150W and it was stable for about 4 months (using the massive power supply), which removed all throttling. Unfortunately after a blue screen the PL1 was no longer wanting to stick at 150W and is now stuck at 95W, so I had to reoptimise a new undervolt which ended up only being 4.7 Ghz stable.
Any ideas what might cause the hardcap of PL1 to shift so massively?
Hello, thank u for this video. I understand all topics, but what about turbo ratio limits? In my processor i can check overclock options. What does it means that? Also, in turbo overcloking show +6. I hope something can help me understand that. See you and thanks
Should CPU cache be undervolted by the same amount as the core?
what do you guys think is the best undrervolting settings for my predator helios 300 im having problems with extreme heat while playing games and ive heard undervolting can help fix that but im not too sure what my machine actually can take and not
Thanks for the great tutorial, but can you link that video of how to reset settings if you push too far and crash that you mentioned?
docmdb87 Mark delete the ThrottleStop.ini file and shutdown the laptop, not reset.
@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks Bob!
docmdb87 Mark I left that out intentionally. I wanted to see how many views this would get before someone needed that content. 8000 isn’t bad!
hai, I have the Omen DH0105TX model which has i7-9750H and RTX 2060. undevolting it -125, When testing CPU streesing, the clockspeed is 3.9-4.0 hovering int that speed and testing around 30 min, and the max temperature around max 91 degree. this i test in aircondition room temperature. the story begins diffrently when streesting test CPU and GPU.CPU basicly runs at 100% but clock speed of CPU drops to 3.6 - 3.7 after 10 min and ther GPU temperature is 75 dgree. but the max cpu temperature is 100degree max...any idea how to set so that the CPU does not throttle down? please help...thanks.
Hey, im using i7 12700h cpu which has fivr locked. I can only change TPL. Can you please help me with what numbers should i start trying? It is set to 90 pl1 & 115 pl2 by default. My laptop is getting to 95 degrees celcius on even light gaming.
Is there any way, a hack perhaps, to bypass the CPU fan limiters? To increase the power draw of course. Machine is a lenovo Y540: i7 9750H + RTX 2060
My Turbo boost long power max is default 60 but I woke up this morning and it's now stuck in 45 watts. I noticed some performance changes and mad how it's locked. Lenovo legion y545
I have a HP Omen AN053NR with i7 7700hq and GTX 1070. From gaming to using folding@home my cpu get up to 97 Celsius. How and what's the lowest voltage to keep it from getting hot?
what to do when my cpu is not supported. i have an amazing issue . i have an acer aspire 7 whit a ryzen 5000 series cpu that constantly overheats, i cant tune it in no program, not in bios not anywhere , and after a bit of working my laptop gets a bsod and shuts down, i drop frames in alot of games and cant play games i used to play no problem. i have open and cleaned it many times but no resault. i am considering a termal paste change but its been just a year and i dont know if its needed, nor i have the money for a new pack. i need help, please help
I am currently running a Razer Blade 15 Advanced i7-8750H w/ RTX 2060. Using your advice I was able to eliminate thermal throttling when using the 3D Mark Time Spy & Fire Hawk Benchmark by undervolting my CPU cache and core -125mV. However, after seeing this video I decided to try the Aida 64 test you were demonstrating and take a harder look at my clock speeds as well as temps. Running Aida 64 almost immediately started causing two of my cores to thermal throttle and for the first time I saw the Package/Ring Thermal Throttling say yes even with my fans set to manual at full speed? Any advice or other things I could tweak in Throttle Stop?
The Blade isn’t too thermally efficient but many have made due with an undervolt and limiting the boot frequency to around 3.3ghz.
I bought my Legion Y740 with i7-9750h and 1660ti recently and my temp goes 94 degree Celsius when gaming, so i undervolted it to -125 and still the temp are same 94 degree Celsius. What should i do?? I even bought a cooling pad but no use.
I have a 2019 predator helios 300 with this cpu, factory undervolted at -0.125.
My issue is power limit throttling which i believe may be contributing to unnecessary cpu temps..
same! I'm going to be playing around with my values right now!
Thanks for the vid, will be trying this on my new MSI and upgrading the CPU compound. Any idea how one could disable 3 of the 6 cores to get best battery life for a scenario where you are on a plane and want to get the longest batt life possible?
Isn't the long power max meant to be higher than the short power max? I see people with 100 for PL 1 and less for PL2, it's confusing I wish I could find a better guide there only seems to be basic ones online.
does the max 17 2070 not 10th gen apply to this? i am unable to undervolt pass -0.050v through the bios... and xtu and throttle stop doesnt seem to respond to my changes
Bob How are you? I enjoy your videos and had a question. I'm getting 4k MHz across the cores, Core temps 65-75 celsius while gaming. Any reason I need to undervolt or do any of the suggestions you have in your video? Thanks for your time.
Hello Bob,
I recently got a Razer Blade 15 base with a 9750h and a RTX 2060 GPU. I follow your previous method on the 8750H and use it on my laptop. Did seem to drop the temps at max CPU from 85c down to 75-80c and still retain the clock at 4gigahertz. I'm not 100% on all the technicalities of UV or OC anything. Would you say that my temperature is normal?
I know this old but what's the MSI laptop to his right? I don't think I heard him say or he hasn't.
nice, what im trying to do is get my temps when playing below 80 degrees, i see the main culprit in rising temps in the laptop is intel turbo boost, disabling it fixed it, but obviously, i dont want to disable it neceserally, so i made the turbo boost power limits low enough, that its always underclocking itself, to not reach that temp (since i cant underclock it directly because thats locked). Does this sound reasonable?
Hi there! I would like to ask you if it's allright to follow the undervolt CPU and the GPU guide on my laptop, it performs well, max temps 80-85 degrees but I want to lower them for long-term performance.. I have the next laptop -> ASUS ROG Strix G G531GV Intel® Core™ i7-9750H - GeForce RTX 2060. I can't wait for your answer ! Thank you and great tutorials..
Tomitza YT Yes but do NOT copy this. Asus gaming laptops are very Cache undervolt sensitive. -.050 might be its safe maximum.
So if I do the undervolt of 8750h guide and the gpu one should I undervolt max 0.50 max? I saw on other vids to 0.100 on different laptops, asus ones does not support that much. If i leave it as it is should be ok.. thanks and I really don t know what to do
Can i use same settings for legion y540 with i7 9750h & rtx 2060??
I want to know the same thing. Just got the y540 with the same specs and my CPU temps spikes up to 95 Celsius when gaming 2019 games.
Same here brothers. I used StopThrottle and changed my cpu and cache voltage to -120mv in FIVR and it seems to help.
@@joshua4859 using quiet, balanced or performance mode?
@@speedylordinc.3748 hey man. So my undervolt now sits at -140mV and I'm using Balanced mode. That seems to be the sweet spot. If I use perfomance mode, my CPU cooks over 90 degrees. With Balanced, it doesn't go over 90
@@joshua4859 @ you tried tweaking any turbo boost power limit ranges?
Hi Bob, I have some overheating shutdown from gaming recently but just before I try undervolting my i9750H ROG Scar 3 for the first time, do I follow your setting advice in the i8750H video? (0 Speed Shift - EPP and BD PROCHOT unticked.)
hey Bob can i set turbo boost long power max 35w and turbo boost short power max 45w? my laptop original 70w and 107w 😐🎮
I'm having a problem with hp omen with same cpu, in benchmarking it reaches 3.8 ghz (manually limited frequency by me) but in games it only gets 2.9-3 ghz, and wattage limits itself at 20 watts, sometime 25. The only solution I have found is enabling high perfomance mode in battery settings but it makes my cpu run at 3,8 ghz constantly no matter if its idle or game, definetely not temps (75 max after 2 hours of cyberpunk 2077), any solution?
my cpu watt wont go up even after the dedicated fan button is turned on. However, I did realise that my miscellaneous only have a max 45 whereas yours is 255. Plus, my initial TBL/TBS Power Max is only at 45/56. Any ideas how can I increase the cpu watt?
NEED HELP! I don't know ANYTHING about undervolting... i need my laptop to run cooler big time as its currently hitting 80-90c when gaming and i'm scared for the components. I just bought the ACER Predator Triton 500 with intel i7 9750h RTX 2060 16gb ram & 1TB ssd.
Heard some scary things about undervolting and don't want to turn my new $2,220 laptop into a paperweight! if anything should go wrong will i be able to restore my laptop to factory settings?
Your temps are good "out of the box" temps. Not sure what you have heard about undervolting but it is pretty much safe. Search "address that hot i7 8750h", its good and well explained guide 🙂
Edit: *throttlestop guide
We cook undervolting into android ROMs and it never once hurt a phone processor, I think it's fine.
Hello, I have a problem. My i7 9750h temperature is really messed up! When I play a game, lets say cod, the cpu goes to 90 degree in less than 3 seconds, which is totally unhealthy. When I change the power settings from 100% to 99%, the temperature while gaming goes from 90 to 68 degree, but the clock speed becomes limited to only 2495 (no noticable changes in the game fps) . Is there a fix for this? The cpu can goes to 4500, but having it limited to only 2495 kinda sucks. Mine is an msi gl65 9se, I7 9750H, 24g ram and an rtx 2060.