Edit: 9/11/18 ThrottleStop 8.70 integrates into Windows 10 even better now by placing itself into the hidden icons tab. Clever and clean, great job team! But let's not forget these new features and fixes too! -improved WinRing0 security and memory access by Sam Haskins. -ability to disable and lock the memory mapped turbo power limits. -added IccMax adjustment. -fixed FIVR voltage names for Skylake and newer CPUs. -regular system tray CPU temperature updates in Stop Data mode. -single click system tray icons and new Logo Min option. -smaller Turbo Power Limits window.
Hey so i followed your guide and my gaming temps went from 90c to an amazing 50c but now I can't run anything and my clockspeed went from 3800 turbo to 2100 and uh... If I enable turbo again it fluctuates from ~2000 to ~3800 and im getting ~5-10 watts into my i7
hey Bob Of All Trades, i have hp omen dc 0051nr. I followed your instructions, my clock frequency stays fixed at around 3900(+-20) mhz while charging, and i can see that it does for you too. But i don't understand Is it a good thing or is it bad as in the video you discuss that it shouldn't be at that all the time even without load? My temperatures(while charging only) even after undervolting stay 50-60 in idle state and reach upto 99 while heavy gaming.
pcpcpc pcpcpc Make sure you have the power settings set to balanced as I shown in the video. My frequency is going to be high I am recording game play and desktop capture.
You've no idea how long I've waited for someone like you to come on here and give this level of information, but do it in a clean, concise and orderly manner that's easy to understand without seeming pushy. Amazing. :D
Yea I had to piece it all together before all these started coming out, amazingly helpful. New bios are nice but for me I can just put processor running at min 5% plugged in and manually set fans high when gaming. Barely hit 80c on bfv gamed/high with a 1050ti
i did it on my alienware m15 (i7 8750h :: rtx 2060), cpu voltage now are at -125.0 and im at 71°max vs 97° on D00M !! no framerates drop and no crash. really clear for beginner thx you !
71 vs 96???? no way, have you played for at least 5 min after undervolting to let the temperatures rise? thats way to much of a difference. With my predator helios 300 i can barely make it go down 5 degrees...
@@facuigua12 You cannot expect the same results between two different laptops. Heck! You ideally shouldn't expect the same results even on the same laptop. This is because, every laptop is different in the sense that one might have clogged up fans or poorly applied thermal paster or even dried up thermal paste. So you can say that he had that huge difference probably because voltage was the only culprit in his case. In your case, it could be a combination of voltage, fans, or thermal paste. Main factor to remember is that his is a different laptop. His laptop might simply have a better cooling solution (heat pipes and air flow) than yours.
@@madguy123lolol2 I agree with you 100%. But still a 25° difference felt way too good to be true just by changing the voltage a bit, specially with just -125 mV. Thats why I was asking them if they actually palyed for a bit to see the real changes (happened to me the first time i undervolted). Nevertheless, I did manage to take mine 15° lower eventually by limiting my gpu's frequency and cpu's turbo + undervolt, so those 25° don't seem too impossible, specially considering what you've said about every laptop being different and in different conditions.
I found this also looking to help friends undervolt their computers for so many different reasons, gaming and battery life. You literally hit the nail on the head and are probably making a larger impact on humanity with this video then most people realize.
oh my goodness, thank you so much! I have this exact same cpu and for the past year have been confused as to why it's running so slow, and not getting anywhere close to 100% (same with gpu) while still lagging. This helped me so much and I'm actually so happy because I must've tried dozens of things trying to fix this! Once again a huge thanks to you!! You earned a new sub
Works amazing! Thank you so much. Running steady at cpu core -250 even and cache -125. Got my highest cinebench score of 2856 running on an MSI GV62 8RE. tGHz were dropping to 2.1-2.6 before doing this. Now they don't drop lower than 3.5. Loving it. hrew some liquid metal on my cpu and gpu a few days ago to drop the temps down from 98 to 85 max. This was the final tweak this machine needed. Thanks again!
Excellent, excellent guide. Shaved off about 11 degrees celsius on my Acer Predator Helios 300, which was absolutely struggling with Red Dead Redemption 2. Max temps went from 98 to about 87, averaging around 83-84 under load. Thank you so much.
@@BobOfAllTrades It's performing good enough for me. I really want the benefits of the beauty of the game so I have a couple settings turned up higher than they probably should be on my GTX 1060. I'm happy with the visuals and honestly getting around 50fps in general. I'm a happy camper.
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Just recently purchased the MSI GS65 8SE and it was running at about 90 degrees Celsius under heavy load. After following this and tweaking about with it I've gotten the temps down to about 78 degrees under heavy load. I think I will hold off on returning this for now!
@@Sagacyte Mine also came with the RTX 2060. My undervolting values were as follows: CPU Cache: -125 mV CPU Core: -125 mV 1/2 Cores Active - 36 3/4 Cores Active - 35 5/6 Cores Active - 34 I also am using a custom fan profile through Silent Option. Fan settings can be found within this review www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65. And I have overclocked the GPU by 100mhz through MSI Afterburner. I would recommend not using Dragon Centre as it can interfere with the above changes if you make them. Now on heavy load for both GPU and CPU I get 72 degrees averaged for both of them, whilst still running Monster Hunter World on everything maxed out at 60+ fps. If you have anymore questions let me know and I'll do my best to help.
@@TheArnav619 CPU Cache: -125 mV CPU Core: -125 mV 1/2 Cores Active - 36 3/4 Cores Active - 35 5/6 Cores Active - 34 I also am using a custom fan profile through Silent Option. Fan settings can be found within this review www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65. And I have overclocked the GPU by 100mhz through MSI Afterburner. I would recommend not using Dragon Centre as it can interfere with the above changes if you make them. Now on heavy load for both GPU and CPU I get 72 degrees averaged for both of them, whilst still running Monster Hunter World on everything maxed out at 60+ fps. If you have anymore questions let me know and I'll do my best to help.
@@shayanhussain5551 Oh! Haven't touched the GPU, will check that (though curiously AC:Origins hates Afterburner haha). How can I *not* use Dragon Center? Can I just uninstall it? Also will check the "Silent Option" - had read about it but was using a custom fan profile in Dragon Center. 70ishC is fantastic! I usually reach 8XC so all tweaks are welcome. Thanks for the detailed response.
Thank you so much! Temps for CSGO was usually 80-95, now they're usually 60-75! -125 for both was a bit too low in performance for my liking, wanted to get that full 144hz potential, so I increased both to -106
Obviosly he didnt get the performance. Usually undervolt takes volt away from cpu which means cpu runs lower voltage inside which means lower performance. Sometimes it can increase perfomance if voltage is high and cooler cant get heat away. In his case he undervolt too much and was getting lower than he expected
Amazing stuff here bob. I have the g7 7588 for 1 year and a few months now and I just used your guide to undervolt it. Huge performance difference. I cant believe it. Thanks man.
Thank you so much for all of your videos, really appreciate you taking the time to be so thorough. I’ve learned more from you in 15 minutes than I have other sources in years. Thank you!!
You have a very natural way/great voice for tutorials. Thank you for going into detail/over everything. When first opening ThrottleStop I was overwhelmed and said to myself "what am I doing, you're going to destroy your new laptop" your video made it a lot less intimidating and I'll have fun playing with the settings.
Thanks for the video mate. Got a whopping 20 degree Celsius fall in my temperatures on my i7 9750h with -140 mv undervolt without reducing performance.
hello I also owned an acer nitro 5 with core i5 8300H, do you play heavy games like just cause 3, etc.. and if you play those then what is your cpu temp? Thanks!
i usually play games like Battlefield 1, BeamNG and Pubg on ultra settings. yes i know PUBG doesn't need to have those settings high. Before under volt the CPU and Cache. i was getting temps in 207F/97.2C after my results were 194F/90C. There will be times were i have hit 200F/93.3C. i have also done other things to this laptop. Reapplying new thermal paste, which i was amazed that the stock paste looked dried out and flaky. Bob has a video on instructions on doing it. Very Very easy to complete. just remember not all results are the same. Added G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB. Which did help with the FPS to keep it at a continuous 60 FPS. Running Battlefield 1 with the stock 8 GB of ram would take up 7.4 GB of usage. After installing 16 GB or ram the game will consume 8.6 GB of ram but no worries of bottle-necking of ram. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232166 Added new M.2 card. WD Black NVMe M.2 2280 500GB Threw this gem into the laptop to replace the stock Intel 600P M.2. i see a better result in performance and speed. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250098
@@mfcordova2007 what are the best values for i5 8300H? My temps always hover around 90-99. After updating windows it's worse. My gta5 start throttling in first 5 minutes itself.
I am here from the more recent CPU performance tuning guide as instructed, and commenting to feed the algorithm (and hoping whichever rogue addon sometimes causes mass posts doesn't trigger). Thanks BOAT.
I have Dell and ASUS gaming laptops which have always ran great but my brothers Dell G5 I7 has sound Studer’s. The game he was playing was Planet Coaster which should. not have any issues on this unit but after adding two coasters with music it started stuttering badly. Since I have been working on computers Over 40 years now and have never seen this so thought it was bad motherboard. Turns out the G5 and G7 use CPU throttling and afternoon setting up throttlestop based on your recommendations in this video it fixed the problem. Now we have perfect sound and game runs super smooth. Thanks for the video that saved us from going insane 😊
Great guide. XTU is a bit easier to use but it was really inconsistent in applying my profile. Sometimes it worked fine, other times it ignored my settings completely. But throttlestop seems to work a lot better. Brought my temps down to around 40 idle and 70 under load. Before, temps would go up to 90 all the time. This was with 125mV undervolt on core and the cache.
im new to this undervolt/overclock stuff.. do u set allthe settings in the video in each tab?(performance,gaming..etc)? so everytime i want to use it i have to click turn on?
After my initial m17 r1 Thermal Grizzly repaste (and raising back of laptop by 1.5 ") after playing games (Apex, DMC 5) for 2 hours or so, I was getting max temps in the low 90's and throttling on some cores (usually 1,3,5), but my average temps were in the 70's, which was a drastic improvement from pre-repaste when the max temps were all 99 with throttling on all cores and average temps in the upper 80's/lower 90's. I decided to undervolt using ThrottleStop. Since I have a i7-8750H processor, I used Bob of All Trades' video and undervolted CPU Cache and Core by -125mV. My temps decreased by 10-15 degrees!! Now with the repaste, raise and undervolt...I am getting max temps in the mid-70's with no throttling and averages in the mid-60's. Makes me wonder how good the temps would have been within the repaste, and undervolting ONLY. Hm.....
Edu Haro strange.. repasting and raising the laptop gave me about a 10 degree decrease ... undervolting gave me an additional 10-12 degree decrease... good luck. Repast is straight forward...I made a quick tutorial here: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/ch2uf8/alienware_m17_r1_thermalstemperatures/
Followed your instructions to the letter with my new OP17+ .... Must be honest, this is the best laptop I've ever owned :) Thanks for the recommendation!!
How are you liking the plastic chassis? I have the 15+ but the extra ram and screen size on the 17+ are nice. Pondering on returning the 15+ for the 17.
@@v2occy809 It's a hard, shiny plastic. Always with plastic lappies you have to be a little bit more careful not to bump or scratch them. That said, the screen size, 32 gb ram, 2 TB HDD and 256 GB M.2 SSD, rainbow back-lit and mechanical keyboard with hexagonal keys ..... there is no way I would go for the 15 inch model. They reduced this from $1700 I believe. Battery life is pants, so I am gonna swap out the HDD bay and put the bigger battery like Bob and the various forums recommended (forum.notebookreview.com/threads/tongfang-gk7cn6s.825461/). I've even partitioned mine and use Kubuntu 18.04 LTS mainly. Did take a fair bit of tweaking to get Kubuntu to recognise the touchpad though.
I initially made the mistake of lowering the CPU cache's offset voltage below -125 as some people suggested and started getting HDD/memory-related BSODs. This expensive notebook is just
Got my PC Specialist model of a Tongfang 3 years ago off your recommendation, now I'm back setting up throttlestop again as it's drivers were causing problems with the latest softwares! This tutorial is every bit as concise and excellently presented as I remember those 3 years ago. Thank you, and I hope you're doing well Bob! :D
For anyone that has the Asus Zephyrus M GM501GS, DO NOT adjust the Speed Shift to 0, leave it at 128. It causes the CPU to turbo constantly on this laptop, after returning it to normal my laptop runs 10C cooler as the CPU isn't boosting all the time now.
Hi Bob, I certainly didn't expect a reply! Thanks for the excellent video, I know it was only a rough guide to the 8750H, my undervolt settings are quite different but done the same way as the video showed. In my GM501, I have my core undervolted to -125mV, but my cache only to -48.8mV, any lower than -50mV I get the BSODs. Otherwise I've applied everything from your video, but I've only just found tonight that if I put the Speed Shift back to 128, My CPU changes it's speed all the time rather than being stuck on 3.9ghz. It has made a massive difference to the thermals in my unit. I'm no expert so not sure why setting it to zero causes it to be stuck mostly at full boost.
I have the asus GL703strix, the cpu also turbos constantly when speed shift is set to 0!. I have a question when I leave the speed shift at 128, when I stress test the clock is only 3.3 Ghz and the TDP is around 27 W, and when idle clock is 3.7Ghs and TDP 12W I want my cpu to stay cool when doing normal stuff like browsing the internet and then get respectable clocks when gaming or doing simulations do you have any idea how to achieve this? I thought this was like normal for a cpu but out of the box it was always at 3.88 Ghz all the time ...
Hey Justin, because of Bob's great review I now own a brand new Zephyrus M as of this week as well. regarding your CPU being stuck at full boost is because what Bob explained about the battery settings. The user interface is just a bit different in our case I think. Go to control panel-> Power options -> set power plan to balanced instead of high performance. Now you can leave speed shift on 0 and your cores will boost when needed. Hope this helps.
Hi Bad captain, My power plan is set to balanced, balanced is the only power plan that appears anyway when I go to power options, when unplugged every thing is fine but when plugged in, he processor is always boosting. do you have any idea on why this is happening. Thanks in advance.
The battery profile tip was really really good, I was wondering why my processor was unnecessarily running rounds like an idiot, and the fan always turned on and stayed min at 50%. You never know what new you learn. I used xtu and noticed the cpu and cache don't have separate voltages, but I stuck to it since I was anyway keeping em together, achieved a full 15-20C drop. Another drop came by setting the fan to full, but I don't wanna ruin them, so a big thank you for this vid!
Thanks for the clear rundown! As a total noob I appreciate that you include the "why you wanna do this" and not just the "how to do it". My GS65-004 thanks you lmao
Hey! Whats is your version of gs 65? Gtx 1060 or 1070 max q? Also what temperatures are you getting after undervolting it? And how much do you undervolt Ed?
literally the most simplest video out there . thank you. I literally just bought the same laptop you own from somebody on Reddit for only $680. I wanted to get the best performance i can on this thing. Your video definitely helped.
My Dell G5 5590 was overheating and spinning its fans like crazy. I did everything in this video and now it's sitting at 60-70c when a game is open. This has really helped a lot. Thank you
Godbless you Bob, its been months since I have this kind of problem. Now I just need to test all my games over the weekend and see about the changes. Thanks a lot.
WARNING: Speed Shift - EPP shouldn't be set to 0. That will keeps the computer running at max frequency all the time. Just keep it 128, that is a pretty balanced value. Or you can set it to 64 if power cord is connected, and 128 or higher if it is running on battery. Speed Shift - EPP setting is basically telling the CPU how much you prefer it shifts quickly to higher frequency (0-128) or lower frequency(128-256).
Saad Daudpota I did a windows reset, deleted some bloatware apps, messed with the privacy & notification settings and undervolted the laptop using throttlestop. Next ill do a thermal repaste and buy 2 ssd's and maybe update the BIOS. Its actually a good laptop, hope you enjoy.
Bob Of All Trades I was able to do this thanks to you Bob. You've done all of us a great service and I wish you the best in everything you do. Looking forward your upcoming videos.
Thanks Bob! Between Kryonaut and this video, my Dell G3 3779 i7-8750H now gets 2540 on Cinebench R20. -140 CPU, -130 CPU Cache. Still throttles in the end down to 3.1, but that is way better than my 2072 first attempt before re-pasting. After, I was able to get to 2305... With this, you got me over 200 points, and my fans now almost never turn on without doing something serious.
@@donquic from 95C thermal throttling on a clean laptop with fresh thermal paste and 50-70% load to 70-90C. Tarkov isn't smooth rn but that's because of my bad gpu (1050ti 4gb mobile) and their own optimization issues when it comes to low end machines. (high end too but I don't really cry about having 100fps instead of 144 on my PC)
Thank you so much for this!!! Using a 2019 Razer Blade, I've been playing cyberpunk at barely 30 fps on low settings, now I can get an average 60 on medium! This is exactly what I was looking for!
This saved my life. Got the acer nitro 5 with a grx 1650 in it and the cpu was getting into the mid 90s literally 20 minutes into a game, found this tutorial and was explained very easily. Haven't gamed again yet but pretty sure it will help the temps
Went from 85 - 90 to 80 - 85 degrees when turbo building Fortnite. Tested on, Alienware R5 17' GTX 1060 i7. I still sometime drop from 160 FPS to 6 FPS for a few seconds, but it might be an issue with FN since it doesn't happen in other games. This video helped alot, thanks!
I originally had TPL settings covered but the truth is, all of my testing (5 days) resulted in no significant change within that tab for this laptop. Good luck!
BOB, I undervolted my i7 8750h on my dell g7 7588 to -125, it brought down the cpu temp pretty good. but I want to lower it a little more. what would be the next setting to set in throttlestop? temps before under a load and also playing the witcher 3 brought the temps up to 95c easily now I see it as low as 78c or so, and can get into the 80s, thanks for all your help.
Here's the part I struggle with understanding. Bob says to avoid the "Best Performance" power option because it will cause the 6 core clocks to run at 3.9GHz all the time. However, it appears that setting the Speed Shift-EPP setting to 0 does exactly that as well. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing or agree with what I'm observing?
I can confirm this, which was frustrating Me as I followed the tutorial to the letter but was still receiving high temps, and I noticed that it was still on 3.9ghz, with that said, if you right click on throttlestop in the task area, you will see a list : Performance , Game, Internet , Battery, I chose game and since then its reduced My temperatures in game to an acceptable level, it does underperform your laptop , probably not the best option for someone who is crazy about fps, but I get enough fps to satisfy my gaming needs. I hope this helps you.
Its been more than month and I've been waiting for a reply. For 2-3 months i left my laptop at speed shift 0 in my Zephyrus M and it has been overheating been wondering why until I realized it does the same effect as best performance. Hopefully there is a good explanation for this. I noticed though I get more FPS speed shift 0 but the temps were just too high. Now I realized what people meant when they say that laptops cant handle the 6 cores. Speed shift at 128 is the sweet spot but it remains at 3.1 ghz max
I am happy 128 works well for you Rich von Lehe , in regards to Top Suey, It is sad that we have to go to such measures to stop our laptops from overheating straight out of the box. Perhaps Bob of all trades will eventually provide you with the answer to your question.
I just set mine from 0 -> 128 half an hour ago and G7 run Battlefield 5 at 75-80 on high setting. I was 95++ when I set Speed Shift EPP to 0. This drove me crazy for the past few weeks, thought I got a defective hardware. Now I can super happy with my G7!!!!
Best guide I ever had after watching hundreds of guides that say basically nothing... before this video I hat do limit max turbo to 3.8 to stay at those non throttling temperatures... after this guide I don't have to limit max turbo to stay in those normal temperatures... but I still limited max turbo to 4.0. With no limit max turbo my CPU can achieve is 4.1 on 2 cores and 4.0 to 4 cores. I'm on laptop: Lenovo Legion Y540. As I read on internet this laptop doesn't have that best cooling system to cool of that CPU and GPU at the same time, but with some undervolt it was fixed for most of people...
Thank you so much for the in-depth tutorial, one of the best tutorials I have ever watched. Very easy and straight forward, gained a subscriber my friend.
with the latest bios update dell block the possibility to do undervolt but if you go to the bios menu and bios recovery then select the restore settings and choose "factory settings" A message will appeared saying that it needed to restart to apply the changes so the laptop will restart and you will able to undervolt again :)
So im a little confused about the turn on button, when it says "Turn On" does that mean its turned on or do we click that for it to say "Turn Off" then thats how we know its turned on. Besides that helpful video!
trying to fix temps on msi gs65 stealth (9se I believe) I already knew about throttlestop and undervolting but this gave me some insight I didn't have before. Unfortunately temps are still pretty damn crazy on this thing which is bothersome, it easily passes 80-90 degrees during load. Because of this I set fans to advanced options and put a pretty aggressive fan curve, even using the fans over 100% (which I guess could help the cpu in the long run but shorten the life of the fans) I'm curious what other solutions people have and what people think about my situation. I am considering repasting both the cpu and gpu and that would likely greatly improve my temps, though I am a bit nervous. I've already opened this thing up voiding my warranty just so I could install a 1tb ssd (because really msi? this expensive of a machine with this much juice and only a 256gb boot drive with no other storage??) but I've never actually reapplied thermal paste on a laptop before. Any tips, tricks, or good words to minimize my concerns or help my situation? Maybe recommend places to go or people to talk to that can repaste with me or for me for the first time? To anyone with the patience to read all that, thank you, and to anyone that reads AND responds to me, I highly appreciate you as a human being. :)
I would highly recommend getting yourself an SSD card with at least 1TB because from what I understand, the more storage space you use up, the harder it has to work to retreive data. but otherwise I would try playing with different levels of core undervolting as bob mentioned in the video and maybe consider repasting (although I have never done that so I can't help you there). Hope you figure it out though, good luck!
Dell G5 15 with i7 8750h and the 1060 max q very similar chassis to the G7. I tried the undervolt .125 on both core and cache but still get high 70s low 80s with spikes into the mid 90s. Any suggestions. I have copied everything from your ThrottleStop EDIT: Even lowering core clock down by .250 and leaving cache at .125 were still spiking to low 90s
I know this is 2 months old. I have an Omen 15 with a 8750H but only a 1050. I got my vCore and Cache offset to -150.4mV. I also put the Intel GPU on -50.8mV. And most importantly, I lowered my clocks to 3.2GHz (6 cores) all the way to 3.7GHz (1 core). I also undervolted the 1050 with MSI afterburner. Another thing that also affected temps a lot was caping the FPS in games. I use RTSS (it already comes with Afterburner) instead of VSync to avoid major input delay. I also set the EPP to 64. It keeps clocks down when browsing and whatnot, and when gaming it always stays at the maximum clock (my own clock, not 3.9GHz). For instance, I play BF1. At 1080p (low because of the 1050) capped at 60FPS, the 8750H will be around 40/50% and around 60ºC. The 1050 goes from 50% to 100% and reaches 57º58º but the 8750H will still be at a resonable 65ºC. Edit: forgot to say I also have a cooling pad with a 200mm fan.
@@pointbreak4094 What kind of cooling pad do you use? I have one i picked up at Ross for like 10 bucks but my roommate likes our place kind of warm so i need something a bit better.
@@suprastevio2264 I bought the Cooler Master Notepal X-Slim II. Relatively quiet and drops temps around 5ºC. I don't know why but in some positons there's a lot of fan resonance. But I solved that by putting small rubber pads on the laptop.
@@suprastevio2264 I actually thought it'd do a bit better than 5ºC but I guess it's already pretty good. Well, if I do some video editing, it goes between 60ºC and 70ºC. If I for instance use the stress on CPU-Z it stays around 60. With AVX2 it eventually reaches 70. But only with the clocks between 3.2 and 3.7. Without downclocking, and even with the undervolt, it easily gets to 80 and more.
It works, I had Asus TUF with i7-8750h and I had more than 90°C only for playing dota 2 with less than 20% CPU utilization. Furthermore, It never went more than 75°C now
Will unchecking the BD PROCHOT or any other part of the tutorial prevent thermal throttling and eventual shutdown if the CPU manages to reach unsafe temps despite the tweaks? I know with this fix it should never get that high, but I am concerned about what might happen if it unexpectedly gets too hot.
Thanks for the Video!! I did this exactly to my Aero 15-X9 I7-8750H Core voltage -300.8mV and cache -125mV, It stills thermal throttles with the Stock fans maxed out but performance doesn't fluctuate that much. I added 2x40mm USB powered fans blowing air into the middle grill and that's giving me the little more cooling I needed to avoid thermal throttling. Basically full 3.9 MHz most of the time and no thermal throttle. GPU temps around 70s degrees Celsius and the I7 around the 80 C most of the time. Pretty much depends on the current room temperature too. I was using XTU but even though It was showing that the CPU is undervolted, sometimes I was not seeing that change in real. I'm playing Mass Effect Andromeda 4K Ultra on a 4K external monitor and It was getting hot, this is my point of reference. Thanks a lot! I hope I'm not missing something.
This CPU is proving very difficult to cool in the MSI GS65 chassis...did a -0.125 and it’s still thermal throttling at 90C. Repaste coming real soon 😪. I’ve noticed that when the CPU is stressed the temps go up to 90 but as soon as it’s off then it drops down to like 50 within the next second is that even physically possible tho?? I’d think it be more of a gradual decline in temperature bc I don’t know if that much heat can just disappear within a second...
Little confused. Wouldn't we be limiting the max freq of cpu by keeping on balanced? If we go into settings of power plans/options in classic control panel we can see the balanced plan limits cpu to 80% of max freq
Can you please tell me the difference between undervolting and overclocking? And how can I overclock? Also, I have an i7-9750h processor, can I undervolt the same way you have done here??
Yohqn this is a guess mate but overclocking means giving it more performance like maxing every thing out. But I would not mess with overclocking because you can really fuck something up if reckless. Underclocking is giving it less voltage so your computer can run cooler which also limits the possibility of thermal throttling. Not a pc expert and I’m probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this but oh well. Hope that helps man
Overclocking gives the cpu more performance at the cost of more heat and fan noise, to keep it cool. I would not recommend to overclock if you have a laptop or a stock cpu cooler in your pc. The i7-9750h is just slightly better than the i7-8750h so you can undervolt the same way he undervolted.
Bob, this worked great for me! I set the voltage just like in the video -0.125 for both cache and core. Im using the i7 9750H on my Aorus XA but it still applied. Also I adjusted the battery as you said with the software "AI" and then my cores didn't go above 80 C in game. If there was a slight FPS drop I didn't notice because I had no thermal throttling. Thank you.
I have an MSI GE63 Raider RGB 8re using this chip I completely took the cooler off and repasted both my CPU and GPU, but that didn't change my temps much. Turns out this was all I needed. I feel like everyone who owns an 8750h should watch this video.
I was running ARK on a newer MSI laptop with the 8750 and it was hitting 95 degrees while only using 20-30% processing power (while my GPU was running under 70 degrees using 95% power), just doing what you did in the video has dropped my temp by 15 degrees! Thank you so much!
Does the Throttlestop program need to remain open for its effects to be in place? (Is minimizing on close a personal preference or required to keep the undervolt running?)
its like after everytime system turns on u need to start the program....for a current session u don't have to keep it minimized u can happily close it..
@@pointbreak4094 Nah man. waiting till you get a blue screen just on undervolting is gonna result in an unstable system when in load. You need to test the arrangement by putting it under load for some time before you finalize the voltage.
@@xavy_ I've had this undervolt for a couple months now and I've put it under load several times. No BSODs. I also pushed it to the max, which in my case was -170mV. So -150mV is pretty stable. Like I said, every chip is different.
I have the same Omen config. And really i didnt need more than -125mV. The change was really noticeable and I am really happy with the temps and fan noise now. I don't go over 60C
@@Fourier88 Depends on the load really. In BF1, even with clocks lowered to 3.2GHz it still gets to 60ºC. AVX2 gets it to 70ºC with the same undervolt and clocks.
Really saved my bacon. My GP63 was jumping into the low 90s and I couldn't figure out why. I actually went into the bios and disabled stepping so it just ran at base clock speeds only until I found this vid. Now I'm runnin low 100 fps and not hitting above 73c. Awesome.
No no the XPS is much much harder. The Raider has top notch cooling. Just put some good thermal paste on it. Even LM on an XPS 15 is t enough by itself.
I hope this really helps. I've seen my CPU on my Dell G7 15 going up to 90 degrees Celsius while playing Fortnite for a little over an hour, and in the worse case freezing my entire computer. Had to restart the computer twice.
@@joshl7586 Make sure you still have minimize on close checked under options. With minimize on close checked and the unchecked Task Bar, ThrottleStop is now put into the hidden taskbar on the bottom right.
This is an amazing video, thank you SO much for this. I am using the 2018 version of the MSI gs65 stealth laptop and was having wild problems with the temperatures and performance. I watched countless videos when it came to UV with XTU but it would not solve my problem. I did watch this video once but I think I skipped through a few important parts because I just watched it again and you increased my performance and my temps went down A TON while gaming. This is a very nicely done video, thank you again!!
Bro, I also have this laptop how much do you undervolted? Also which version of gs 65 do you have and what temperatures are you getting after undervolting it?
i send everyone here that has issues with laptops and cpu temps/voltage issues, great video made my laptop have great temps and now its at its sweetest spot :D
Edit: 9/11/18 ThrottleStop 8.70 integrates into Windows 10 even better now by placing itself into the hidden icons tab. Clever and clean, great job team!
But let's not forget these new features and fixes too!
-improved WinRing0 security and memory access by Sam Haskins.
-ability to disable and lock the memory mapped turbo power limits.
-added IccMax adjustment.
-fixed FIVR voltage names for Skylake and newer CPUs.
-regular system tray CPU temperature updates in Stop Data mode.
-single click system tray icons and new Logo Min option.
-smaller Turbo Power Limits window.
Does that mean i wont have to redo the undervolt everytime i boot my pc??
Romick Vieira if you’re doing that then you didn’t follow the tutorial.
Hey so i followed your guide and my gaming temps went from 90c to an amazing 50c but now I can't run anything and my clockspeed went from 3800 turbo to 2100 and uh... If I enable turbo again it fluctuates from ~2000 to ~3800 and im getting ~5-10 watts into my i7
hey Bob Of All Trades, i have hp omen dc 0051nr. I followed your instructions, my clock frequency stays fixed at around 3900(+-20) mhz while charging, and i can see that it does for you too.
But i don't understand Is it a good thing or is it bad as in the video you discuss that it shouldn't be at that all the time even without load? My temperatures(while charging only) even after undervolting stay 50-60 in idle state and reach upto 99 while heavy gaming.
pcpcpc pcpcpc Make sure you have the power settings set to balanced as I shown in the video. My frequency is going to be high I am recording game play and desktop capture.
I often get asked to do a video on undervolting, I'm just going to link them here instead 😁
Jarrod'sTech Thanks I appreciate that!
Might be listening to both your videos while driving around this morning LOL
@@BobOfAllTrades Haha accidentally scheduled two for the same day, doh!
Jarrod'sTech I figured! Lucky us 🙏
noice
why you don't use XTU for the 8750H ?
You've no idea how long I've waited for someone like you to come on here and give this level of information, but do it in a clean, concise and orderly manner that's easy to understand without seeming pushy. Amazing. :D
I appreciate that!
SAME HERE!
Yea I had to piece it all together before all these started coming out, amazingly helpful. New bios are nice but for me I can just put processor running at min 5% plugged in and manually set fans high when gaming. Barely hit 80c on bfv gamed/high with a 1050ti
saaaame, searched all day for this, thanks 1000x :)))
@@BobOfAllTrades does this decrease FPS, because the CPU is slower? Or does this boost performance? I’m talking about for gaming
i did it on my alienware m15 (i7 8750h :: rtx 2060), cpu voltage now are at -125.0 and im at 71°max vs 97° on D00M !! no framerates drop and no crash. really clear for beginner thx you !
Whats your clock speed before and after the undervolt?
71 degrees? lol no way
71 vs 96???? no way, have you played for at least 5 min after undervolting to let the temperatures rise? thats way to much of a difference. With my predator helios 300 i can barely make it go down 5 degrees...
@@facuigua12 You cannot expect the same results between two different laptops. Heck! You ideally shouldn't expect the same results even on the same laptop. This is because, every laptop is different in the sense that one might have clogged up fans or poorly applied thermal paster or even dried up thermal paste.
So you can say that he had that huge difference probably because voltage was the only culprit in his case. In your case, it could be a combination of voltage, fans, or thermal paste.
Main factor to remember is that his is a different laptop. His laptop might simply have a better cooling solution (heat pipes and air flow) than yours.
@@madguy123lolol2 I agree with you 100%. But still a 25° difference felt way too good to be true just by changing the voltage a bit, specially with just -125 mV. Thats why I was asking them if they actually palyed for a bit to see the real changes (happened to me the first time i undervolted). Nevertheless, I did manage to take mine 15° lower eventually by limiting my gpu's frequency and cpu's turbo + undervolt, so those 25° don't seem too impossible, specially considering what you've said about every laptop being different and in different conditions.
I found this also looking to help friends undervolt their computers for so many different reasons, gaming and battery life. You literally hit the nail on the head and are probably making a larger impact on humanity with this video then most people realize.
Loved this. You should make a Tutorial on "how to make a tutorial"
This is the best throttlestop tutorial out there, I keep coming back whenever I need to configure a new notebook. Thanks bob
oh my goodness, thank you so much! I have this exact same cpu and for the past year have been confused as to why it's running so slow, and not getting anywhere close to 100% (same with gpu) while still lagging. This helped me so much and I'm actually so happy because I must've tried dozens of things trying to fix this! Once again a huge thanks to you!! You earned a new sub
2 years later, a cpu with the exact same issues, and the best explaination I've seen on how to fix them. Thanks!
Works amazing! Thank you so much. Running steady at cpu core -250 even and cache -125. Got my highest cinebench score of 2856 running on an MSI GV62 8RE. tGHz were dropping to 2.1-2.6 before doing this. Now they don't drop lower than 3.5. Loving it. hrew some liquid metal on my cpu and gpu a few days ago to drop the temps down from 98 to 85 max. This was the final tweak this machine needed. Thanks again!
same core worked for me
If I undervolt the CPU via bios is it that worse then using thorttlestop?
worked like a dream. I'm still getting the same framerates in all my games but instead of mid 90s Im in the mid 70s
Excellent, excellent guide. Shaved off about 11 degrees celsius on my Acer Predator Helios 300, which was absolutely struggling with Red Dead Redemption 2. Max temps went from 98 to about 87, averaging around 83-84 under load. Thank you so much.
How’s that game performing in general?
@@BobOfAllTrades It's performing good enough for me. I really want the benefits of the beauty of the game so I have a couple settings turned up higher than they probably should be on my GTX 1060. I'm happy with the visuals and honestly getting around 50fps in general. I'm a happy camper.
Wow that's a good temp drop! Still scary to be in the 80s imo but at least it won't throttle lol
Thanks dude! Love the channel I like how your not like main TH-camrs who just try to push sponsored products u care about the PC community thanks :)
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Just recently purchased the MSI GS65 8SE and it was running at about 90 degrees Celsius under heavy load. After following this and tweaking about with it I've gotten the temps down to about 78 degrees under heavy load. I think I will hold off on returning this for now!
bro what values did you use?
Which GPU? I recently got the GS65 with 2060. Would you mind sharing you undervolting values?
@@Sagacyte Mine also came with the RTX 2060. My undervolting values were as follows:
CPU Cache: -125 mV
CPU Core: -125 mV
1/2 Cores Active - 36
3/4 Cores Active - 35
5/6 Cores Active - 34
I also am using a custom fan profile through Silent Option. Fan settings can be found within this review www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65. And I have overclocked the GPU by 100mhz through MSI Afterburner. I would recommend not using Dragon Centre as it can interfere with the above changes if you make them. Now on heavy load for both GPU and CPU I get 72 degrees averaged for both of them, whilst still running Monster Hunter World on everything maxed out at 60+ fps. If you have anymore questions let me know and I'll do my best to help.
@@TheArnav619
CPU Cache: -125 mV
CPU Core: -125 mV
1/2 Cores Active - 36
3/4 Cores Active - 35
5/6 Cores Active - 34
I also am using a custom fan profile through Silent Option. Fan settings can be found within this review www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65. And I have overclocked the GPU by 100mhz through MSI Afterburner. I would recommend not using Dragon Centre as it can interfere with the above changes if you make them. Now on heavy load for both GPU and CPU I get 72 degrees averaged for both of them, whilst still running Monster Hunter World on everything maxed out at 60+ fps. If you have anymore questions let me know and I'll do my best to help.
@@shayanhussain5551 Oh! Haven't touched the GPU, will check that (though curiously AC:Origins hates Afterburner haha). How can I *not* use Dragon Center? Can I just uninstall it? Also will check the "Silent Option" - had read about it but was using a custom fan profile in Dragon Center.
70ishC is fantastic! I usually reach 8XC so all tweaks are welcome. Thanks for the detailed response.
Thank you so much! Temps for CSGO was usually 80-95, now they're usually 60-75! -125 for both was a bit too low in performance for my liking, wanted to get that full 144hz potential, so I increased both to -106
Why did you increase? Did your fps drop?
Obviosly he didnt get the performance. Usually undervolt takes volt away from cpu which means cpu runs lower voltage inside which means lower performance. Sometimes it can increase perfomance if voltage is high and cooler cant get heat away. In his case he undervolt too much and was getting lower than he expected
Amazing stuff here bob. I have the g7 7588 for 1 year and a few months now and I just used your guide to undervolt it. Huge performance difference. I cant believe it. Thanks man.
What settings did you use becuse I have g7 15 dell series and getting a lot of over heating issues
Thank you so much for all of your videos, really appreciate you taking the time to be so thorough. I’ve learned more from you in 15 minutes than I have other sources in years. Thank you!!
Guys I figured it out I just put my room temp at -20c I'm a genius
how are your balls doing in that temp
Na Sha pretty sterile I would assume
Proz71 Ful 😂😂😂
Actually you would kill the cpu doing the (i know is a joke)
I about choked laughing. Good one.
You have a very natural way/great voice for tutorials. Thank you for going into detail/over everything. When first opening ThrottleStop I was overwhelmed and said to myself "what am I doing, you're going to destroy your new laptop" your video made it a lot less intimidating and I'll have fun playing with the settings.
Thanks for the video mate.
Got a whopping 20 degree Celsius fall in my temperatures on my i7 9750h with -140 mv undervolt without reducing performance.
Dude. The way you speak, you are the best teacher ever !
Thanks brother! It worked great for me and I've suggested your video on the Indian gaming subReddit. Great job
Did this on my Acer Nitro AN515-53-55G9.
just amazing results. followed exactly what Bob instructed and dropped down a cool 13 degrees.
Excellent job.
hello I also owned an acer nitro 5 with core i5 8300H, do you play heavy games like just cause 3, etc.. and if you play those then what is your cpu temp? Thanks!
i get over 500 degrees
i usually play games like Battlefield 1, BeamNG and Pubg on ultra settings. yes i know PUBG doesn't need to have those settings high. Before under volt the CPU and Cache. i was getting temps in 207F/97.2C after my results were 194F/90C. There will be times were i have hit 200F/93.3C.
i have also done other things to this laptop.
Reapplying new thermal paste, which i was amazed that the stock paste looked dried out and flaky. Bob has a video on instructions on doing it. Very Very easy to complete. just remember not all results are the same.
Added G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB.
Which did help with the FPS to keep it at a continuous 60 FPS.
Running Battlefield 1 with the stock 8 GB of ram would take up 7.4 GB of usage. After installing 16 GB or ram the game will consume 8.6 GB of ram but no worries of bottle-necking of ram.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232166
Added new M.2 card.
WD Black NVMe M.2 2280 500GB
Threw this gem into the laptop to replace the stock Intel 600P M.2. i see a better result in performance and speed.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250098
@@mfcordova2007 what are the best values for i5 8300H? My temps always hover around 90-99. After updating windows it's worse. My gta5 start throttling in first 5 minutes itself.
Did you do the -.125 on core voltage or did you max it out to -.300 or beyond? Also, what games do you play?
I am here from the more recent CPU performance tuning guide as instructed, and commenting to feed the algorithm (and hoping whichever rogue addon sometimes causes mass posts doesn't trigger). Thanks BOAT.
Not only overclocked but finally understood what I was doing ... Man, you are a rare gem on YT! Thank you, great job!
I have Dell and ASUS gaming laptops which have always ran great but my brothers Dell G5 I7 has sound Studer’s. The game he was playing was Planet Coaster which should. not have any issues on this unit but after adding two coasters with music it started stuttering badly. Since I have been working on computers Over 40 years now and have never seen this so thought it was bad motherboard. Turns out the G5 and G7 use CPU throttling and afternoon setting up throttlestop based on your recommendations in this video it fixed the problem. Now we have perfect sound and game runs super smooth. Thanks for the video that saved us from going insane 😊
Great guide. XTU is a bit easier to use but it was really inconsistent in applying my profile. Sometimes it worked fine, other times it ignored my settings completely. But throttlestop seems to work a lot better. Brought my temps down to around 40 idle and 70 under load. Before, temps would go up to 90 all the time. This was with 125mV undervolt on core and the cache.
im new to this undervolt/overclock stuff.. do u set allthe settings in the video in each tab?(performance,gaming..etc)? so everytime i want to use it i have to click turn on?
After my initial m17 r1 Thermal Grizzly repaste (and raising back of laptop by 1.5 ") after playing games (Apex, DMC 5) for 2 hours or so, I was getting max temps in the low 90's and throttling on some cores (usually 1,3,5), but my average temps were in the 70's, which was a drastic improvement from pre-repaste when the max temps were all 99 with throttling on all cores and average temps in the upper 80's/lower 90's.
I decided to undervolt using ThrottleStop. Since I have a i7-8750H processor, I used Bob of All Trades' video and undervolted CPU Cache and Core by -125mV. My temps decreased by 10-15 degrees!! Now with the repaste, raise and undervolt...I am getting max temps in the mid-70's with no throttling and averages in the mid-60's.
Makes me wonder how good the temps would have been within the repaste, and undervolting ONLY. Hm.....
Maybe I'll try repasting. I don't see any improvements undervolting the CPU...
Edu Haro strange.. repasting and raising the laptop gave me about a 10 degree decrease ... undervolting gave me an additional 10-12 degree decrease... good luck. Repast is straight forward...I made a quick tutorial here: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/ch2uf8/alienware_m17_r1_thermalstemperatures/
I just used this guide in 2022 with my 2019 Razer Blade 15 2070 max q with the 8750h. Worked like a charm. Bob is the best!
I just came across this video like 2 years late, and I gotta give it to you bob, this intro looks 🔥
Followed your instructions to the letter with my new OP17+ .... Must be honest, this is the best laptop I've ever owned :) Thanks for the recommendation!!
How are you liking the plastic chassis? I have the 15+ but the extra ram and screen size on the 17+ are nice. Pondering on returning the 15+ for the 17.
@@v2occy809 It's a hard, shiny plastic. Always with plastic lappies you have to be a little bit more careful not to bump or scratch them. That said, the screen size, 32 gb ram, 2 TB HDD and 256 GB M.2 SSD, rainbow back-lit and mechanical keyboard with hexagonal keys ..... there is no way I would go for the 15 inch model. They reduced this from $1700 I believe. Battery life is pants, so I am gonna swap out the HDD bay and put the bigger battery like Bob and the various forums recommended (forum.notebookreview.com/threads/tongfang-gk7cn6s.825461/).
I've even partitioned mine and use Kubuntu 18.04 LTS mainly. Did take a fair bit of tweaking to get Kubuntu to recognise the touchpad though.
you are a blessing in disguise Bob!! Thank you so much!
I'm getting a new g7 in a week. I'm gonna do this as soon as I do. Great video. You're the man!
Dont get the g7, they SUCK. I have one and i want to sell it to buy another brand
I initially made the mistake of lowering the CPU cache's offset voltage below -125 as some people suggested and started getting HDD/memory-related BSODs. This expensive notebook is just
Got my PC Specialist model of a Tongfang 3 years ago off your recommendation, now I'm back setting up throttlestop again as it's drivers were causing problems with the latest softwares! This tutorial is every bit as concise and excellently presented as I remember those 3 years ago. Thank you, and I hope you're doing well Bob! :D
Really helpful for beginners. 10/10 mate!
Thank you! That’s exactly who it’s for!
For anyone that has the Asus Zephyrus M GM501GS, DO NOT adjust the Speed Shift to 0, leave it at 128. It causes the CPU to turbo constantly on this laptop, after returning it to normal my laptop runs 10C cooler as the CPU isn't boosting all the time now.
Justin Hewson The Zephyrus M has a very tight tolerance. Undervolted to these specs caused BSOD.
Hi Bob, I certainly didn't expect a reply! Thanks for the excellent video, I know it was only a rough guide to the 8750H, my undervolt settings are quite different but done the same way as the video showed. In my GM501, I have my core undervolted to -125mV, but my cache only to -48.8mV, any lower than -50mV I get the BSODs. Otherwise I've applied everything from your video, but I've only just found tonight that if I put the Speed Shift back to 128, My CPU changes it's speed all the time rather than being stuck on 3.9ghz. It has made a massive difference to the thermals in my unit. I'm no expert so not sure why setting it to zero causes it to be stuck mostly at full boost.
I have the asus GL703strix, the cpu also turbos constantly when speed shift is set to 0!.
I have a question when I leave the speed shift at 128, when I stress test the clock is only 3.3 Ghz and the TDP is around 27 W, and when idle clock is 3.7Ghs and TDP 12W I want my cpu to stay cool when doing normal stuff like browsing the internet and then get respectable clocks when gaming or doing simulations do you have any idea how to achieve this?
I thought this was like normal for a cpu but out of the box it was always at 3.88 Ghz all the time ...
Hey Justin, because of Bob's great review I now own a brand new Zephyrus M as of this week as well.
regarding your CPU being stuck at full boost is because what Bob explained about the battery settings.
The user interface is just a bit different in our case I think.
Go to control panel-> Power options -> set power plan to balanced instead of high performance.
Now you can leave speed shift on 0 and your cores will boost when needed.
Hope this helps.
Hi Bad captain,
My power plan is set to balanced, balanced is the only power plan that appears anyway when I go to power options, when unplugged every thing is fine but when plugged in, he processor is always boosting. do you have any idea on why this is happening. Thanks in advance.
The battery profile tip was really really good, I was wondering why my processor was unnecessarily running rounds like an idiot, and the fan always turned on and stayed min at 50%. You never know what new you learn. I used xtu and noticed the cpu and cache don't have separate voltages, but I stuck to it since I was anyway keeping em together, achieved a full 15-20C drop. Another drop came by setting the fan to full, but I don't wanna ruin them, so a big thank you for this vid!
So you are using xtu or throttlestop now?
Emilio8x throttlestop, because xtu sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Ts was more reliable
You thanks. I'm using it right now and my temps are 10 degrees lower.
Emilio8x nice question man
Thanks for the clear rundown! As a total noob I appreciate that you include the "why you wanna do this" and not just the "how to do it". My GS65-004 thanks you lmao
Hey! Whats is your version of gs 65? Gtx 1060 or 1070 max q?
Also what temperatures are you getting after undervolting it?
And how much do you undervolt Ed?
literally the most simplest video out there . thank you. I literally just bought the same laptop you own from somebody on Reddit for only $680. I wanted to get the best performance i can on this thing. Your video definitely helped.
Ok, I love this channel. I just ordered one of those toasty new Clevo 17" models, I'm gonna do that out of the box! Thanks!
Hey chris how is your clevo holding up??
I like How-To's like this. Also I believe you have just saved my ass for when my laptop arrives. Thank you
And you sir won a big like! This was excellent
My Dell G5 5590 was overheating and spinning its fans like crazy. I did everything in this video and now it's sitting at 60-70c when a game is open. This has really helped a lot. Thank you
Hey bro can you tell me which values did you put ?
Godbless you Bob, its been months since I have this kind of problem. Now I just need to test all my games over the weekend and see about the changes. Thanks a lot.
WARNING: Speed Shift - EPP shouldn't be set to 0. That will keeps the computer running at max frequency all the time. Just keep it 128, that is a pretty balanced value. Or you can set it to 64 if power cord is connected, and 128 or higher if it is running on battery. Speed Shift - EPP setting is basically telling the CPU how much you prefer it shifts quickly to higher frequency (0-128) or lower frequency(128-256).
Youre the man Bob !
Just finished setting up my OP gaming laptop. Thanks man.
HI! dude I got OP 15+ too, hows it been? what tweaks have you made?
Saad Daudpota I did a windows reset, deleted some bloatware apps, messed with the privacy & notification settings and undervolted the laptop using throttlestop. Next ill do a thermal repaste and buy 2 ssd's and maybe update the BIOS. Its actually a good laptop, hope you enjoy.
That’s all the right stuff that’s done for any laptop that someone cares about! Well done 👍
Bob Of All Trades I was able to do this thanks to you Bob. You've done all of us a great service and I wish you the best in everything you do. Looking forward your upcoming videos.
I’ll sleep well tonight thanks to comments like yours 🤛
You are a life saver bro, thank you so much for this video
Thank you. I have tried multiple things and this has not only dropped my CPU temperatures but has also increased my FPS!
Thanks Bob! Between Kryonaut and this video, my Dell G3 3779 i7-8750H now gets 2540 on Cinebench R20. -140 CPU, -130 CPU Cache. Still throttles in the end down to 3.1, but that is way better than my 2072 first attempt before re-pasting. After, I was able to get to 2305... With this, you got me over 200 points, and my fans now almost never turn on without doing something serious.
Great vid bringing up the pwr plan, that really messed with me till I got min 5%. Yes I do not need 4.1 ghz to watch Spider-Man lol
MSI GL73, had a hard time playing escape from tarkov, now it's buttery smooth. I'm extremely grateful, keep up the good work :)
Same, did this help reducing the cpu temperature?
@@donquic from 95C thermal throttling on a clean laptop with fresh thermal paste and 50-70% load to 70-90C. Tarkov isn't smooth rn but that's because of my bad gpu (1050ti 4gb mobile) and their own optimization issues when it comes to low end machines. (high end too but I don't really cry about having 100fps instead of 144 on my PC)
Dude what an awesome tutorial omg. very great job
I know this video is 4 years old but i couldnt be more thankful to you for breathing new life into my laptop.
Thank you so much for this!!! Using a 2019 Razer Blade, I've been playing cyberpunk at barely 30 fps on low settings, now I can get an average 60 on medium! This is exactly what I was looking for!
Got a great vid on my bday
Happy Birthday!
This saved my life. Got the acer nitro 5 with a grx 1650 in it and the cpu was getting into the mid 90s literally 20 minutes into a game, found this tutorial and was explained very easily. Haven't gamed again yet but pretty sure it will help the temps
vgrammz 757 repaste helps a ton on these!
what am i supposed to say? you are awesome! perfect video!
Just found this, very helpful in my case. Temps still rise in my case but not like they were before. Much appreciated.
Went from 85 - 90 to 80 - 85 degrees when turbo building Fortnite.
Tested on, Alienware R5 17' GTX 1060 i7.
I still sometime drop from 160 FPS to 6 FPS for a few seconds, but it might be an issue with FN since it doesn't happen in other games. This video helped alot, thanks!
I originally had TPL settings covered but the truth is, all of my testing (5 days) resulted in no significant change within that tab for this laptop. Good luck!
BOB, I undervolted my i7 8750h on my dell g7 7588 to -125, it brought down the cpu temp pretty good. but I want to lower it a little more. what would be the next setting to set in throttlestop? temps before under a load and also playing the witcher 3 brought the temps up to 95c easily now I see it as low as 78c or so, and can get into the 80s, thanks for all your help.
Good work buddy! The Cache is very important. Did you do that too?
yes, I did both. what setting would you set both to if I want to go down a little more?
also why does this cpu run so hot?
That's all trial and error at this point. It takes time to dial it in. Just when you think you have it, something will cause BSOD.
Thanks a lot !!! before when I play game temp of CPU is 90C after when I see your clip and try it. My CPU is running around 70C.
REDUCE 20C !!!!!!
Did the FPS increase?? Or did make a difference in performance.. any kind?
@@arshbishnoi7731 Most likely... above 80 C most Intel CPUs start to thermal throttle so yeah probably 5-20 FPS increase at 70 C
Here's the part I struggle with understanding. Bob says to avoid the "Best Performance" power option because it will cause the 6 core clocks to run at 3.9GHz all the time. However, it appears that setting the Speed Shift-EPP setting to 0 does exactly that as well. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing or agree with what I'm observing?
I can confirm this, which was frustrating Me as I followed the tutorial to the letter but was still receiving high temps, and I noticed that it was still on 3.9ghz, with that said, if you right click on throttlestop in the task area, you will see a list : Performance , Game, Internet , Battery, I chose game and since then its reduced My temperatures in game to an acceptable level, it does underperform your laptop , probably not the best option for someone who is crazy about fps, but I get enough fps to satisfy my gaming needs. I hope this helps you.
Its been more than month and I've been waiting for a reply. For 2-3 months i left my laptop at speed shift 0 in my Zephyrus M and it has been overheating been wondering why until I realized it does the same effect as best performance. Hopefully there is a good explanation for this.
I noticed though I get more FPS speed shift 0 but the temps were just too high. Now I realized what people meant when they say that laptops cant handle the 6 cores. Speed shift at 128 is the sweet spot but it remains at 3.1 ghz max
@@chrisd8578 I went to 128 for the speed shift epp setting and it works well enough for me.
I am happy 128 works well for you Rich von Lehe , in regards to Top Suey, It is sad that we have to go to such measures to stop our laptops from overheating straight out of the box. Perhaps Bob of all trades will eventually provide you with the answer to your question.
I just set mine from 0 -> 128 half an hour ago and G7 run Battlefield 5 at 75-80 on high setting. I was 95++ when I set Speed Shift EPP to 0. This drove me crazy for the past few weeks, thought I got a defective hardware. Now I can super happy with my G7!!!!
Best guide I ever had after watching hundreds of guides that say basically nothing... before this video I hat do limit max turbo to 3.8 to stay at those non throttling temperatures... after this guide I don't have to limit max turbo to stay in those normal temperatures... but I still limited max turbo to 4.0. With no limit max turbo my CPU can achieve is 4.1 on 2 cores and 4.0 to 4 cores.
I'm on laptop: Lenovo Legion Y540. As I read on internet this laptop doesn't have that best cooling system to cool of that CPU and GPU at the same time, but with some undervolt it was fixed for most of people...
Thank you so much for the in-depth tutorial, one of the best tutorials I have ever watched. Very easy and straight forward, gained a subscriber my friend.
with the latest bios update dell block the possibility to do undervolt but if you go to the bios menu and bios recovery then select the restore settings and choose "factory settings" A message will appeared saying that it needed to restart to apply the changes so the laptop will restart and you will able to undervolt again :)
Luisardo need to try this no wonder the throttling was worse than before
So im a little confused about the turn on button, when it says "Turn On" does that mean its turned on or do we click that for it to say "Turn Off" then thats how we know its turned on. Besides that helpful video!
You should click it when it says Turn on. After a reboot it should always say Turn off which means it's active.
trying to fix temps on msi gs65 stealth (9se I believe) I already knew about throttlestop and undervolting but this gave me some insight I didn't have before. Unfortunately temps are still pretty damn crazy on this thing which is bothersome, it easily passes 80-90 degrees during load. Because of this I set fans to advanced options and put a pretty aggressive fan curve, even using the fans over 100% (which I guess could help the cpu in the long run but shorten the life of the fans) I'm curious what other solutions people have and what people think about my situation. I am considering repasting both the cpu and gpu and that would likely greatly improve my temps, though I am a bit nervous. I've already opened this thing up voiding my warranty just so I could install a 1tb ssd (because really msi? this expensive of a machine with this much juice and only a 256gb boot drive with no other storage??) but I've never actually reapplied thermal paste on a laptop before. Any tips, tricks, or good words to minimize my concerns or help my situation? Maybe recommend places to go or people to talk to that can repaste with me or for me for the first time?
To anyone with the patience to read all that, thank you,
and to anyone that reads AND responds to me, I highly appreciate you as a human being.
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it really isnt that hard , just use a good compound
@@dogsday52170 I need to buy it and take the computer apart again though and that's so much work on this model 😭
I would highly recommend getting yourself an SSD card with at least 1TB because from what I understand, the more storage space you use up, the harder it has to work to retreive data. but otherwise I would try playing with different levels of core undervolting as bob mentioned in the video and maybe consider repasting (although I have never done that so I can't help you there). Hope you figure it out though, good luck!
You're a beast man. This drastically improved overall the performance on my Asus GL703GE. Works like a charm now
Dell G5 15 with i7 8750h and the 1060 max q very similar chassis to the G7.
I tried the undervolt .125 on both core and cache but still get high 70s low 80s with spikes into the mid 90s.
Any suggestions. I have copied everything from your ThrottleStop
EDIT: Even lowering core clock down by .250 and leaving cache at .125 were still spiking to low 90s
I know this is 2 months old. I have an Omen 15 with a 8750H but only a 1050. I got my vCore and Cache offset to -150.4mV. I also put the Intel GPU on -50.8mV. And most importantly, I lowered my clocks to 3.2GHz (6 cores) all the way to 3.7GHz (1 core). I also undervolted the 1050 with MSI afterburner. Another thing that also affected temps a lot was caping the FPS in games. I use RTSS (it already comes with Afterburner) instead of VSync to avoid major input delay.
I also set the EPP to 64. It keeps clocks down when browsing and whatnot, and when gaming it always stays at the maximum clock (my own clock, not 3.9GHz).
For instance, I play BF1. At 1080p (low because of the 1050) capped at 60FPS, the 8750H will be around 40/50% and around 60ºC. The 1050 goes from 50% to 100% and reaches 57º58º but the 8750H will still be at a resonable 65ºC.
Edit: forgot to say I also have a cooling pad with a 200mm fan.
@@pointbreak4094 What kind of cooling pad do you use? I have one i picked up at Ross for like 10 bucks but my roommate likes our place kind of warm so i need something a bit better.
@@suprastevio2264 I bought the Cooler Master Notepal X-Slim II. Relatively quiet and drops temps around 5ºC. I don't know why but in some positons there's a lot of fan resonance. But I solved that by putting small rubber pads on the laptop.
@@pointbreak4094 wow 5°?? What kind if thermals all around do you get in a average on a heavy load? Have you undervolted?
@@suprastevio2264 I actually thought it'd do a bit better than 5ºC but I guess it's already pretty good. Well, if I do some video editing, it goes between 60ºC and 70ºC. If I for instance use the stress on CPU-Z it stays around 60. With AVX2 it eventually reaches 70. But only with the clocks between 3.2 and 3.7. Without downclocking, and even with the undervolt, it easily gets to 80 and more.
Thanks SO much! I'll be doing this with my ASUS TUF when she comes in!
It works, I had Asus TUF with i7-8750h and I had more than 90°C only for playing dota 2 with less than 20% CPU utilization. Furthermore, It never went more than 75°C now
@@penggalangmakanan can you elaborate your configuration?
@@penggalangmakanan same issue same laptop rn hoping to fix w this vid
Will unchecking the BD PROCHOT or any other part of the tutorial prevent thermal throttling and eventual shutdown if the CPU manages to reach unsafe temps despite the tweaks? I know with this fix it should never get that high, but I am concerned about what might happen if it unexpectedly gets too hot.
Yes people can easily put a laptop in a backpack and keeps working in sleep mode...
Man, I commented here to say your vid is amazing not even having seen it completely! I will, but did not need to finish!
Thanks for the Video!! I did this exactly to my Aero 15-X9 I7-8750H Core voltage -300.8mV and cache -125mV, It stills thermal throttles with the Stock fans maxed out but performance doesn't fluctuate that much. I added 2x40mm USB powered fans blowing air into the middle grill and that's giving me the little more cooling I needed to avoid thermal throttling. Basically full 3.9 MHz most of the time and no thermal throttle. GPU temps around 70s degrees Celsius and the I7 around the 80 C most of the time. Pretty much depends on the current room temperature too. I was using XTU but even though It was showing that the CPU is undervolted, sometimes I was not seeing that change in real. I'm playing Mass Effect Andromeda 4K Ultra on a 4K external monitor and It was getting hot, this is my point of reference. Thanks a lot! I hope I'm not missing something.
This CPU is proving very difficult to cool in the MSI GS65 chassis...did a -0.125 and it’s still thermal throttling at 90C. Repaste coming real soon 😪. I’ve noticed that when the CPU is stressed the temps go up to 90 but as soon as it’s off then it drops down to like 50 within the next second is that even physically possible tho?? I’d think it be more of a gradual decline in temperature bc I don’t know if that much heat can just disappear within a second...
Disable turbo boost, or lower clock speed
@@mikhail4486
hello how would you do for donwclock the cpu ?
I did a Artic MX-4 repaste. No help. I wanted to do liquid metal... but I didn't want to risk and damages to the circuits.
@@exhaustbikess in throttlestop - five - on the left
I heard that you must leave epp at 128 and not 0. That helped a lot of ppl. Try that.
Little confused. Wouldn't we be limiting the max freq of cpu by keeping on balanced? If we go into settings of power plans/options in classic control panel we can see the balanced plan limits cpu to 80% of max freq
Yeah m confused also too
Can you please tell me the difference between undervolting and overclocking? And how can I overclock?
Also, I have an i7-9750h processor, can I undervolt the same way you have done here??
Yohqn this is a guess mate but overclocking means giving it more performance like maxing every thing out. But I would not mess with overclocking because you can really fuck something up if reckless. Underclocking is giving it less voltage so your computer can run cooler which also limits the possibility of thermal throttling. Not a pc expert and I’m probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this but oh well. Hope that helps man
Overclocking gives the cpu more performance at the cost of more heat and fan noise, to keep it cool. I would not recommend to overclock if you have a laptop or a stock cpu cooler in your pc. The i7-9750h is just slightly better than the i7-8750h so you can undervolt the same way he undervolted.
Inferno Red Thank you!
Inferno Red thank you you explained it better than me 😂
Bob, this worked great for me! I set the voltage just like in the video -0.125 for both cache and core. Im using the i7 9750H on my Aorus XA but it still applied. Also I adjusted the battery as you said with the software "AI" and then my cores didn't go above 80 C in game. If there was a slight FPS drop I didn't notice because I had no thermal throttling. Thank you.
You’re very welcome 👍
I have an MSI GE63 Raider RGB 8re using this chip
I completely took the cooler off and repasted both my CPU and GPU, but that didn't change my temps much.
Turns out this was all I needed. I feel like everyone who owns an 8750h should watch this video.
2:40 What is the reasoning behind setting both, Speed Shift AND SpeedStep? Aren't those two competing with each other?
Really? So which to leave on?
Speedstep is for older system like Gen4 or lower.
Anyone know the best undervolt for the MSI GS65 with the I7-8750h and 1660 ti?
surreal taco please tell me if you find one
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Oh MAN! Thank u so much! I tried EVERYTHING! It was hot as hell! U are the only one who told about max perfomance switch!
Good job on making this work for you 🙏
I was running ARK on a newer MSI laptop with the 8750 and it was hitting 95 degrees while only using 20-30% processing power (while my GPU was running under 70 degrees using 95% power), just doing what you did in the video has dropped my temp by 15 degrees! Thank you so much!
Does the Throttlestop program need to remain open for its effects to be in place? (Is minimizing on close a personal preference or required to keep the undervolt running?)
its like after everytime system turns on u need to start the program....for a current session u don't have to keep it minimized u can happily close it..
Does anybody know the "sweet spot" for the HP OMEN 15 i7-8750h, 1060, 16gb ram, 144hz panel?
kof1s No chip is equal. His 8750H got to -125mV and I managed to go to -150mV. You can always start at -125 and keep lowering -10 until you a BSOD.
@@pointbreak4094 Nah man. waiting till you get a blue screen just on undervolting is gonna result in an unstable system when in load. You need to test the arrangement by putting it under load for some time before you finalize the voltage.
@@xavy_ I've had this undervolt for a couple months now and I've put it under load several times. No BSODs.
I also pushed it to the max, which in my case was -170mV. So -150mV is pretty stable.
Like I said, every chip is different.
I have the same Omen config. And really i didnt need more than -125mV. The change was really noticeable and I am really happy with the temps and fan noise now. I don't go over 60C
@@Fourier88 Depends on the load really. In BF1, even with clocks lowered to 3.2GHz it still gets to 60ºC. AVX2 gets it to 70ºC with the same undervolt and clocks.
Bob thank you for this tutorial it drastically improved my gs75 and it runs cooler and faster 👍👍
no connection ac what values do you use ??
Very kindly and gratefully: thank you. I will also repaste the Y530 and see where it gets me in combination with this.
Was it good ?
Great guide this vid completely saved my gaming laptop went from 90C to 50-70C!!! so much better cant thank you enough!
Schmeck Gaming Well done 👍
I have a Asus ROG Gl503GE and i need to know if this is secure and what do i do if i get a bluescreen?
I do too.
And it's heating like hell.
If you get a blue screen it will just reboot your laptop, no biggie. It won't damage anything
Quick question I noticed that when I have the (turn on-off) option to off it runs cooler than having it turned on what is that for
It is for the stats on the right (temps...) maybe it is using a bit of your cpu usage that’s why
Well got my cpu of - 750 mv and didn't make any difference. Help
What kind of laptop you have
A Msi Gf72 8re-032
Really saved my bacon. My GP63 was jumping into the low 90s and I couldn't figure out why. I actually went into the bios and disabled stepping so it just ran at base clock speeds only until I found this vid. Now I'm runnin low 100 fps and not hitting above 73c. Awesome.
You are a genius! Sometimes I really hope everyone on youtube could be as good as you.
Can I do it on my Dell XPS 15 (I7-8750H / GTX 1050 Ti) ? Because it sometimes goes over 85°C and that's bad. Thank You !
Yes and best of luck to you on that beauty. That's a tough one to cool!
@@BobOfAllTrades Not as tough as MSI GE75 Raider 9SF (model with i7-9750H with RTX 2070) :P.
No no the XPS is much much harder. The Raider has top notch cooling. Just put some good thermal paste on it. Even LM on an XPS 15 is t enough by itself.
I hope this really helps. I've seen my CPU on my Dell G7 15 going up to 90 degrees Celsius while playing Fortnite for a little over an hour, and in the worse case freezing my entire computer. Had to restart the computer twice.
Jahvel P I have the last gen 7577, if it’s anything like mine then the gpu thottles at 85 degrees.
adam log wow. Just followed this video and now I'm not even going above 70, just a nice temp of 65-70
did it work ?
hugo garcia it did. Doesn't go above 90 anymore
im playing fortnite at max settings getting like 84 thats cool?
I know I'm a baby but is there a way to remove it completely so it runs in the background? Seeing it at the bottom will bug me.
Unchek the *task bar* option and you're good to go
Just open the second desktop that windows 10 has ( if you got windoes 10 ) and throw that in there. 😂
Soban Farooq didn't even know about that feature but I never bothered undervolting... My laptop just doesn't seem to need it so far
I agree. Have you found a way? Unchecking the task bar option doesn't keep it running.
@@joshl7586 Make sure you still have minimize on close checked under options. With minimize on close checked and the unchecked Task Bar, ThrottleStop is now put into the hidden taskbar on the bottom right.
This is an amazing video, thank you SO much for this. I am using the 2018 version of the MSI gs65 stealth laptop and was having wild problems with the temperatures and performance. I watched countless videos when it came to UV with XTU but it would not solve my problem. I did watch this video once but I think I skipped through a few important parts because I just watched it again and you increased my performance and my temps went down A TON while gaming. This is a very nicely done video, thank you again!!
Bro, I also have this laptop how much do you undervolted? Also which version of gs 65 do you have and what temperatures are you getting after undervolting it?
i send everyone here that has issues with laptops and cpu temps/voltage issues, great video made my laptop have great temps and now its at its sweetest spot :D
Right on Danny!
Yo thank you so much man!! I debloated my laptop and my CPU started running at 180F when I’d normally get around 150F. This helped tremendously