How to undervolt your CPU for cooler temps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2020
- We all know that you an get major results with AMD and undervolting... but what happens when you try it with Intel as well?
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"I'm going to show you how to unvolt your CPU" *Turns PC off* "see how easy that was"
Adam Lynn 😂
100% power efficient (or does the PSU's wake up circuit use a tiny bit of power?)
@@soupwizard Computers always draw power when off, unless physically removed from the power source.
@@soupwizard not quite 100% but damn close to 100% - there's always a standby circuit.
*rips out power lines from house* "and that is how you easily improve your home's safety by unvolting it"
CPU: *Literally Burning*
Jay: This is fine :)
figuratively*
Funny thing: a lot of people are doing this to their AMD 3900xs and 3950x for the same reason.
Bet people will do it for the 5950xs too!
My CPU probably should've melted by now, since I never turn my PC off...
*Losing all my tabs because the browsers refuse to remember them...*
97c not that bad,
Litterally everyone's moms laptop: pathetic
lol
No
> person claims fine
> laptop runs like shit
I appreciate your tutorial videos! Thanks to your help, I was able to not only overclock my 3800x, but also dropped the temps from the stock setting on my X570 Aorus Elite 6-11C, depending on the load. You continue to give me the tools to improve my ability to do it myself, which has always been far more valuable than someone doing it for me.
:)
Need more vids like this. Wish I could find a step-by-step guild on duel loop setup settings. Bios, fans, pump speeds, stuff like that.
I've been considering doing some videos on different computer things I'm learning
Thanks for this guide it was super helpful and comprehensive. I always had issue distinguishing which option does what in the voltage adjustment section. Managed to shave off 5-7C from each core playing around with the values.
thanks for taking the time to make this video, i know very little about this stuff and it gave me a good introductory understanding. granted i am still incapable of this type of tweaking yet but it did break the ice to start on the path
Thanks @JayzTwoCents! - Great video to explain the how undervolting can work on certain CPUs and what are the gains from there. Keep the videos coming :)
Despite you already being the expert in this overclocking stuff and already did like hundreds if not thousands of similar things youre doing in this video, i love how you still explain almost ALL the basic and little things youre doing so the viewer whos maybe a newcomer in this scene can keep up and actually understand what you are actually doing.
Great props to you!
You'd be a great teacher lol
unfortunately this video is neither thorough or well explained for someone brand new to adjusting bios settings. Jay breezes by a lot of processes and explanations , and I always see newbs simply try to replicate settings and get an unstable overclick. Vdroop and load line calibration was left out of this video entirely and is the most important make or break setting in regards to undervolting vcore at both idle and under full load.
@@mcgman8058 I would agree I'm a noob and I only understood half of what he was doing. I'm going to try undervolting but I'm still a bit nervous.
@@dvrman123 Yeah, I've built the PC and did all my research and all is well but I got up to 16 minutes of this and my brain was starting to melt. This looks like a revision course video for those who already know how to do it as there are a lot of assumptions, like you know HWMonitor inside out and what all the readings mean. This could probably be spread out of 2 or 3 videos so I will have to look for something more basic for the first time undervolter.
@@dvrman123 I know this is a year later, but I. In the same boat. Managed to undervolt my laptop cpu by -170mv. Dropped my Temps 20°c
@@bearleemadeit4718 I cant figure it out mate i have a omen 17 and i hit 95 c easy
ya know ur early when the description has a typo
EDIT: The typo in the title is fixed, the description however still has the typo.
We all know that you *an* get major results with AMD and undervolting...
Hahaha yup
@@llNecroticll title..
@@MarcusH... dude the description too
Description was fine
Some people save lives, some defend their country, others cruise TH-cam for typos.
Thanks Jay, I like these kind of videos, showing the steps on how to over click cpu, gpu, ram.
Also enjoy what ever video you decide to do. The content you make on this channel is awesome!! Thanks for all you do. 👍
Great tips Jay and also in the comments. Just to add, you may also find it perfectly stable when running a load but after periods of being idle it freezes. You can try changing the Load Line Calibration setting to see if it helps but otherwise back the undervolt off another step.
Jay: "A little warm today at 76F (24C)."
Me at the equator: "32C (89.6F) today, could have been worse"
Me too.... ambient at 35c... It's a hard time for cpu
Me living in India that also delhi at 40°C-45°C
Pathetic
@@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp
Me in australia, niiice. Now those are some familiar temps 🤣
@@timothyjn100 yea Australia has a lil more extreme temps than delhi especially Melbourne
Me in Denmark: 16°c today... Ugh it's sweat time...
Thank you! Finally got my 14 core to 4.8 with this guide. (Non AVX) Temps around 85ish!
THANK YOU! Finally, just the guide I've been waiting for! Now I'll just have to watch it one more time to fully understand how to do it. Cheers!
great video. most ppl talk about overclocking and raising the voltage but getting more performance and less thermal output is real nice.
Thanks Jay for a masterclass in undervolting/over clocking :)
Always enjoy these videos, I'm very hesitant to mess with my voltages as its foreign to me and I'm afraid to destroy my components.
I appreciate the help J.. Using Firestrike as a reference.. and your tips for a guide.. ive taken my 7800X from 4.2 oc to 4.7 and come down 14c on overall temps.. and its very stable now.. thanks for everything !!!! :)
The information in this video seems to have helped my CPU (Ryzen 7 5800X) overheating issue. I've had it for six months, but the problem just started last week. I had not made any changes to the system in the BIOS, etc., but for some reason, it was overheating. Thank you, Jay!
Jay: I can't do this right because I don't have a streaming PC.
Jay: Streaming PCs are useless.
i was confused at his explanation for why it wouldn't work because it clearly can work and well too, seems lazy and i can only imagine it's 'well we have 50 cores anyway haha who cares about offloading or conserving resources on primary pc'
@@felicityc A capture card or software capturing on the machine you are doing the demo on won't work until windows is booted up, all this happens in bios, so unless he was outputting the video to a 2nd dedicated pc with its own capture card he couldn't get the video of the bios. A dedicated streaming pc just to handle video capture is pretty much useless these days though, this is the one niche case where it would be useful, for everything else you can just buy a ryzen cpu that has enough horsepower to do whatever you are trying to do and still have enough left over to handle the video capture at a very reasonable price, so building an entire 2nd pc just to do video capture doesn't make sense.
Would love a Ryzen oc video, but I loved this
@@coopercummings8370 realistically if you have a camera pointed to towards the screen works better unless you are an professional overclocked who wants to stream then yes it makes sense .
For little here nor there home setup nahhh .
Says guy with 15.000€ gaming cave setup.
Jay, I enjoyed this video and your work a lot dude. I enjoy playing around with these settings myself and getting massive jumps in performance. Then going for lower temperatures is balancing act that I enjoy. Stay safe and quarantined. See you in studio hopefully in two or three weeks.
Mega awesome video Jay! I love how you go through everything and explain also. This is very good for learning how to overclock. :D
Thanks! For the lesson on tuning. Your videos are both educational and entertaining making your channel one of my goto computer channels on TH-cam. Keep up the good work,
I only clicked for 'unvolting' thought it was gonna unleash some mad performance
Yeah I saw this and thought "What is this voodoo magic that can run your CPU on zero power?"
Same
@@pkbeast Was about to bring a new level of RIP Gamers Nexus
@@cainc1673 Hahaha lol
@@pkbeast voltage=current*resistance, so obviously he hacked the physics engine irl to make his pc 0degrees Kelvin(-273.15 C) thus making the resistance 0 (or delta resistance/dR where the limit approaches 0, effectively making it so small it's ~0), the whole system into a superconductor, and now that current ~infinity with a voltage of dV lim->0. i knew he does liquid nitrogen but critically superfluid liquid helium-3 cooling to get to ~0.0025kelvin? nice (helium-4 achieves superfluidity way hotter; a nice and toasty 2.18K, or only -270.97 celcius!)
how was this not obvious? /s
This is why I subscribed to Jayz' channel. Great content that's different from other hardware channels. A wealth of information in this video that's worth several viewings. Awesome.
Jay when you make actual guides they're among some of the best on TH-cam. Bookmarking this vid for sure.
Great video Jay, I appreciate the work you put into this. Thank you.
Hey Jayz really good video! I’ve got a question that I hope you can ask.. the level of adjustment you made is just perfect, balancing the voltage and freq. However, I think another crucial factor here is the room temperature that you did not mention. I mean if you make this tuning during winter, when summer arrives, you could see some crashes when you push your pc, due to the possible 15-20 C difference in the room temps. Same if you tune your pc in summer time, 6 months later you would be able to push your PC harder with the same temps. Did you think about that? Thanks and good job man!
Remember when it was "haha AMD hot"
Oh how the turns have table.
And it's gonna get even worse for Intel with their up and coming 10th gen desktop parts, that 10 core will nearly be competing with some gpus in terms of wattage it'll consume & it'll be running like a toaster even at stock so good luck overclocking it lol
@@ToobeyAmbi Hol up
Well, considering that AMDs new architecture at that time, despite the manufacturing node being compareable, were no were near close to competing, and Intel with 14nm still manages to do that?
Yeah - AMD deserved it.
@@ToobeyAmbi "How the turntables" *
Awesome information and walkthrough, can’t wait to try this out later!
I don't know much about overclocking but, this is a really good guide to some of the settings. Thanks! You helped explain a bunch of things to me!
I find lowering voltage more rewarding then overclocking!
and obviously you get then a better overclock afterwards too. so win-win ;D
Another thing to remember is the performance in relation to temps. I can get my 6600k to 4.6 with a Max temp of like 74 under full load, but dropping to 4.5 allows a voltage of 1.325 vs 1.375 and drops temps by roughly 10 degrees
Wait what? Can you explaine?, lower clock but higher voltage will have cooler temperature?
@@ameserich I believe they meant they went from a setup of: (4.6 clock and 1.375 volts, resulting in 74 degrees),
to a setup of (4.5 clock and 1.325 volts, resulting in ~64 degrees {this being the 10 degree drop in temp}).
So 0.1 clock drop, allowing for a .05 voltage drop, resulting in a 10 degree temp drop.
Very informative, now I need the courage to do it on my rig, thank you Jay!!!!
Thank you so much for this. Tinkering around with the voltages (even though the bios is completely different) fixed my throttling issues
Thanks so much for this tutorial Jay! I struggled to keep my 7980XE temps under control when I last tried overclocking it. Now I have a stable 4.5GHz at 1.190V and staying under 90C!
Is below 90c good? Like around 78 hitting 80 something, is it bad?
@@Kiro_I0 No its fine
@@white9093 yeah, ik. thanks for letting me know tho. After all these months I’ve been troubleshooting a lot and learning more about PC every now and a while. I ended up OC 4.1hz my cpu around the time i sent that last comment and never had a problem. Temp always stays around 60c on idle with stock cooler so I’m good.
@@Kiro_I0 What's is your cpu if you don't mind me asking?
My cpu ( i7 12700k) sometimes spikes to 75c when playing Assasins creed origins, usually holds between 60 - 70c, is that ok or I should be worried?
I'm really glad you did this tutorial Jay! I can't wait to give it a try after finals :)
Take care!
Wow finals I wish mine were conducter right now as they were supposed to be over last month but lockdown
Thanks Jay for the video. Going to try this out on mine Tuesday and see if I can get it up to where you got yours.
Great video, under less than desirable conditions, but you still manage to keep it very engaging!
here before he changed the title
What was it before
@@Thai.H "Unvolting" rather than undervolting
"Time to sleep. It's 1:30 in the morning."
> upload
"OK, I guess not."
Looks like we live close
Earth is so small
What country are you in? Here in Brazil is 2PM
It's 3:09 AM here in Egypt
I really wanna click on that timestamp but then I'll lose where I am on the video..
Edit: couldn't help it
Thank you very much Jay I feel much more confident now about how to over clock after that video. Greatly appreciated good sir.
I just love this kind of uploads, thanks!
Hi Jay, I know this video is old now but just wanted to say these kinds of practical, real-case scenario teaching videos are SUPER helpful and it would be great if you could do an updated one for the new 12900K chip with the latest BIOS. Just the basic steps to OCing, followed by the step-by-step process of how you would actually go about tweaking/testing the parameters like you did in this video.
From what I understand, the VID is the voltage the cpu is asking the motherboard for, not a measurement
Excellent work legend I’m running similar setup to you same board 7980xe and 1080ti on ek waterblock and two 560mm rads amd couldn’t for life of me get my overclock stable but now I can run 4.7ghz no problems at all.. cheers legend.
This may be an old vid, but it's still really useful. Thank you for taking the time.
Jay. There is a common misconception about the VID and the VCORE. The VID is the voltage that the cpu is requesting, it doesn't represent the cpu voltage. In fact, that value is useless. The core voltage readout is called VCORE and it is a product of the VID and vdroop (both can be configured on overclockable motherboards). So you set 1.2v on the bios, the VID is 1.2 but actual vcore is different.
Other misconception is that any cpu can provide per-core voltage. Only CPUs with a fully integrated voltage regulator can do that. Usually it's only found on Intel haswell, all X99/X299 compatible CPUs and newer mobile parts. Those CPUs use something called VCCIN as voltage input.
On all other CPUs, the motherboard is only capable of providing one voltage (called vcore). If you have one core idling and one core at full load, both cores will receive 1.3v (for example). Exception: Deep C-States can disable vcore input per core but if you overclock and let C-States option on auto, C-States are disabled.
Use hwinfo64 (sensors only) for more accurate software readings because hwmonitor is not frequently updated
I know this comment is old, but got me curious. Do you work/worked at intel?
It is the first time I see someone mentioning FIVR, specially because it is only used in server hardware nowadays.
@@atata9 not really. I just used to do motherboard level repairs on my previous job (including servers) and I had to know things such as how VRMs work on each CPU architecture
I would love to see you do this with an AMD r9. I'm still at a loss as to what the danger temp in with my 3950x
you can hit 90 before it's actively destroying itself but in general you want it to stay below 80ish under load for long life
Thanks for the video I was able to get a stable 5ghz overclock on my I5-7600k and in cinebench went from a 1598 to a 1720 score (I know nowhere near Ryzen or 9/10 gen Intel but I'm happy) max core temp was 76c on water.
This video is so informative. Still relevant in 2021. Using this video as a guide for OC'ing my 10700k to 4.9GHz and undervolting.
What voltage did you get?
21:41 - The UEFI is a mini OS and is causing the problems that you're troubleshooting by power cycling
Hmm
me: omg, my hottest core is 1° hotter than the whole package, is my cooler installed properly?
Jay: 30 degree difference on idle, no big deal...
me: O_o
When playing with hardware with over a couple of years of experence that's normal since it's not how they are running their systems around the clock .
That's because its probably not delidded
@@Matpermad 9980XE is soldered...
@@darkchaosclanat and? You can still delid soldered IHS'
@@weavercs4014 Yes you can, but please explain me why it should make any sense?
Thanks Big guy! Just got my hands on a I5 13600k right out of the box running an initial stress test it shot up to 100 degrees, it was frightening... Had my voltage at 1.55ghz running. Was able to undervolt to a 1.29 at a 4.6ghz keeping the temp at 68 degrees bring my cinebench score to a 9048
Thanks, Jay! Very educational. Very enjoyable.
I used to unvolt my cpus, until i got a an electric discharge on my knee.
"until I took an electric shock to the knee" - Skyrim player / PC enthusiast
I used to find these jokes funny............then I took an arrow in the knee ;-)
@@MrGorpm Osgood all the life
You adventurer you.😏
@@branm5459 *Snorts skooma*
Skyrim criminal/PC enthusiast.
I wish I could unvolt my cpu, it would give my house power.
If i undervolt my smartphone cpu would start generating energu
@@marcosross8670 thermodynamics says......NO
Lol I noticed my lights fluctuate when I do folding at home, old ass house lol
@@alsmith1775 well sir is there a fuse that you could change or trip in case of you know what magic smoke .
@@tanmaypanadi1414 yea, I think it's an old breaker had to replace one already
I really enjoyed this video and it helps me feel more comfortable when tinkering with things. thank you!!
Keep em’ coming Jay. Thanks again.
0 voltage, infinite amps!!!
0 Ohm.
@@happygimp0 resistance is futile.
Furmark + intelburntest (or the one that is now included with furmark) gives me the highest system power draw I've seen yet. I think that's a good test to include on top of the component focused tests.
Furmark is known to destroy graphics cards.
Furmark, Intelburntest, Prime95, FAH are more demanding than any game or other "normal" app and would likely not be stable at these performance settings. So, your usage should help you determine how fast you want to set your overclock.
I honestly didn’t think your quarantine videos would be worth watching, but I learned A LOT from this single video. 🥳
Excellent tutorial! Thanks for doing this.
Thank you for this video. I was pumping way more voltage into my 9900k than I needed.
Hey,how is your voltages now?
I'm running 1.295 @ 5.0/4.8 Avx . But if I run Cinebench,it will jump to 95° after 5 minutes.
Noctua Nh-U12A cooler here.
I thought VID was not actually voltage. It was just pre programmed tables. You have to go by vcore. I'm pretty sure VID isn't per core voltage.
Vid is what cpu asks for set by intel not what it gets
@@johnflynn6140 Exactly. Basically, it doesn't matter what it's showing, when overclocked.
@@itube8324 Well yes and no, when you OC your CPU, the VID rises as well, but it may not be enough and it crashes anyway in which case you can override it with a higher value, or if the VID is higher than necessary, you can undervolt it like what Jay did here.
Best video help I have seen so far that shows intel + asus tweeking :) thx alot Jay, this helped me to confirm that i did my first cpu tuning correctly!
Very informative and relative to my issues Jay. Thanks for the video.
Now I want to see an AMD version
AMD slows down the cpu automatically, instead of crashing. That's weird.
I believe AMD does not support undervolting for some reason
@@ambilijohn6846 it's pretty complicated since they have a chiplet design to make an interface for each ccx lvl Overclocking or undervolting as they don't have such precise controls or knowledge over these situations .
I'd be interested in a first gen Threadripper version. (probably because I'm running one...)
@@ambilijohn6846 It does if my negativ voltage offset on my 3700X counts as undervolting. :)
Unvolting or UNDERvolting?
JokeRGBlazE Was gona right that
He dose this quite a few times
But we just brush it off and understand what he mean
Feelings and shitt
Didn't understand everything, but was an enjoyable educational experience! Great video Jay! (and Phil)
Thanks Jay. Great video! More of these please!
Might need to check the title.
Never thought I'd learn anything from J2C video. I know that high performance has a minimal cpu power set to 100% vs balanced 5%. But I could never imagine it has immediate effect on voltage. So all these years I wasted power... I guess it's a good thing it's mostly cold where I live.
Really enjoyed this video, thanks Jay.
Excellent video Jay. I've been learning something new from your videos for years. 👍
"Unvolting"
"Learn the secrets of 0 TDP!"
@@erick4188 the secret is to power it off :D
Jay at it's best
lmao
zero point energy unlocked
If you 'unvolt' a cpu, then change your mind, would that be 'revolting'?
Nice try but sorry it's was overvolting or stock voltage
I like these quarantine vids! :)
Loved the video. Thank you for the lesson 🙂
I mean my 3950x got 10,073 at 4.2Ghz stable in cinebench... Highest temp was 73C... Maybe it's time to go amd?
For those kind of workloads, obviously yes, at least right now. For gaming it depends on what you play & if it heavily favours Intel or not.
Jay: -Typos-
The entire comments section:
I typically never comment on TH-cam videos but just wanna say how helpful this was. Thank you!!
Really nice video, Jay! :D
New tech slang incoming - Unvolting. Just like gravis cards 😁
Bryan from Tech Yes City likes that :)
Same I also thought of bryan
@@sanjeevkr.7330 Yeah, we all watch almost the same channels
He just needs a devolterization calibrator. 😁😅
Jokes on you, Gravis cards were a thing! As in Gravis Ultrasound.
you know you're early when the description has a typo "we all know you an get"
Don't forget the title
Great video jay. This was awesome.
Love the video Jay, day to day stuff that can happen to anyone.
damn, my 3950x on AIR, in an ITX CASE runs cooler and scores damn near the same on R20.
undervolting ?
great video jay back to old school vids i loved thx ;p
Saving this for later. Very good step by step undervolting guide
2:40 it will boot. Windows brings up recovery automatically every 4th crash
Every 4th crash .... is it an exact statistic ?
@@tanmaypanadi1414 yeah, happens to every CPU
XD intel.... -5% performance per security update
Well, you just made me go back to Throttlestop on my laptop and tweak the hell out of it, turns out it can handle even more undervolt than I had previously done, and now it can sustain 3.8ghz boost clock on all cores while gaming and barely go beyond 70C! Pretty sweet for an 8th gen i5 😎
Jay you made this topic super interesting. The details and walk through, awesome. I probably won't do anything like this; However, this added to the knowledge I don't need right now, but may need.... Party on Wayne 👍🏻
Well you either spend hours to optimize all this settings or just buy AMD and even save some money.
CPU yes, GPU not so much. not a very effecient design on that side
snowhawk you think people don’t do that with AMD CPUs?
Oh AMD users can also squeeze more performance by tweaking endlessly, difference is AMD's high core count CPUs don't reach stupidly high temperatures. I don't know how many days I've spent so far overclocking my ram
@@kendokaaa Yeah, and AMD CPUs are clocked pretty close to their limits out of the box (at least for 3000 series CPUs). As long as you have a decent cooler or AIO you are more limited by safe voltages than by temps, sort of the opposite with Intel CPUs currently. Memory overclocking, on the other hand, provides much more benefit on an AMD system than Intel and can take ages to tweak to perfection. I think I spent nearly 3 weeks tweaking my b-die sticks to 3733MT/s (my infinity fabric isn't happy with 3800) at 14-11-13-13-28-35-248 timings (CL-RP-rRCD-wRCD-RAS-RC-RFC) at 1.5v. Tuning every single setting one-by-one, testing for hours on end after every single change, finding the absolute lowest values that would run stably. It's not that much performance to be gained in the end, but I like tweaking everything in my PC and the gain to 1% lows in games was worth it.
@@kendokaaa you don't have to though, you can just turn on precision boost overdrive on 3000 series which is actually based off their server chip which means it has air correction code built in and doesn't actually crash the computer when there is a fault. It actually will automatically overclock itself until it becomes unstable and then underclock a tiny bit and then undervolt itself until it becomes unstable and then increases voltage a little bit. There is a reason why AMD CPUs actually produce a lot of heat the first two or three hours of operation as well as run at a slightly slower clock speed. It actually takes time for the CPU to learn its limits.
Hardly any undervolting going on. Change the title to,,if you already know how to undervolt, look at this''
its an entertaining channel, not a tech channel. you'll barely get any useful info apart from basics some ppl are thanking this channel about. no numbers. just blablabla for 9 years already
also using camera to record the screen in 2020 like a pro
@@mirage8753 Yea, but back in the day I remember I had a few select choices when it came to pc trouble and this channel was one of my sources of answers along with Linus and another one.
@@mirage8753 It is just the grinding force of time, buddy:)
I like this kind of videos A LOT. Thanks for that.
made it but hey jay when is the next giveaway