2017 GSX-R1000 S2B: Episode 6 (Part 2) - The Devil Is In The Details (Oil Change)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- In Episode 6 (Part 1) - The Devil Is In The Details (Sprint Filter) Brock ended the segment with the question, ”Are we going to pick up 5 horsepower with an oil change… or just half a horsepower?” after discussing molasses and sawdust oil comparisons in the past. Our 2017 GSX-R1000, now officially named “Gixzilla” in a Brock’s Performance facebook contest, is showing great consistency on the dyno and is ready for her first oil and filter change. Brock goes through his normal, painstaking detail to keep the results as nonbiased as possible - while passing along a few hard earned 'life lessons' along the way. What will Gixzilla make after the addition of Alisyn less than 0 weight full synthetic motor oil with our proven Petron Plus oil additive compared to the previous oil? Check out the results now.
The details :
Brock’s Performance 2017 GSX-R1000L7 Standard model (not the ‘R’ version) purchased from Fun For All Motorsports in Elizabethtown, KY
Exhaust: Brock’s Performance Alien Head 2™ full stainless exhaust system
Traction control: Motion Track Traction Control Standard (TC=OFF during testing)
Suzuki Drive Mode Selector (S-DMS): Power Mode=A (max power selected during testing)
Fuel used during test: VP MR12 Oxygenated Race Fuel
Rear tire: Stock Bridgestone Battlax RS10 190/55/ZR17 - 35 PSI Nitrogen
Motor oil: Alisyn Pro Drive 21 Less than 0W (full synthetic)
Additive: Petron Plus 4-Cycle Lube
Air filter: Sprint Filter P08 F1-85 (See this link for detailed information: goo.gl/zgBcZG )
PAIR: Blocked
Power Commander: PCV with Brock’s Performance Track Map 1
ECU: Stock or modified, per video requirements 5th gear pulls
Dynojet Model 250I dyno using DynoWare RT, Power Core C3 and WinPEP 8 dyno control - displaying the SAE scale (unless noted otherwise in video)
0:00 Video introduction
0:55 Precautions to take when changing the oil
2:03 We prefer using an OEM Suzuki oil filter
2:58 Draining the 'unidentified' oil from the bike
3:45 Checking the magnetic drain plug for debris
4:32 Moving the used oil to a clean container
5:00 Inspecting the drain pan for debris in the oil
5:56 Good habits for drain plug installation
6:50 Introducing the Alisyn Pro Drive 21 (less than 0W)
7:25 Is this oil okay for street use?
8:39 The 'thicker oil is better' mentality
9:26 Discussing oil filter installation and torque
9:52 Retrieving the keys and starting the bike
10:36 Introducing the Petron Plus 4-Cycle Lube
12:04 Petron Plus will increase oil viscosity
13:20 Taking a brief 'ride' and dyno pulls
14:46 Discussing the results of the dyno pulls
15:20 Suzuki's 'mystery' oil performed well
16:25 Where to next? Possibly fuel tuning via ECU, Auto Blipper/Quick Shifter, BST Wheels?
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204 whp and 92 ft-lb. Stock bike weighs 441. Subtract about 14 pounds for full system, another 5 pounds for lithium battery, drop 8 pounds for CF rear wheel/rotor/sprocket, 5 pounds for CF front wheel/rotors, and 1 pound for rearsets and fender elim.
Est. 408 pounds wet. 2.0 pounds per HP
Or 1,102 HP per ton.
Kind of ridiculous.
Better than super car acceleration for 15-20K depending on mods…can’t beat modern sportbikes, easily best bang for the buck.
Thanks Brock for the time you take to show us these video's...very much appreciated.
Brock, your videos are by far the most enjoyable to watch. Keep up the great work!
Brock you're a tuning master. If only I was in Ohio to have you personally tune my A1 ZX-12! Love watching the detailed in depth videos you make. You've made GREAT parts for years and hopefully your products continue being made, TESTED and sold for years to come. Keep it up
Very cool vid...you covered all the questions I've often asked myself. You seem like a such a cool guy too. Right tools with the knowledge makes any job a breeze.
The whole taping and marking the ignition switch as well as placing the key in another area is a perfect example of the way I try to teach people. You my friend are a true craftsman and an expert.
Stuff happens... but if you prepare in advance - less stuff happens.
Really have to say....Mr.Brock Davidson...Sir...u're truly amazing...thanx for all your nice and honest video's...
I love how passionate you explain technical. You turn boring subjects to entertaining!
@YT1344 - There is knowledge to be gained in even the most mundane topics. In fact, we have seen the 'simple' task of an oil change destroy engines and cause crashes (from a loose drain plug). It's the little things in life the can creep up and cause you big problems. Having a proven structure to follow, every time, helps prevent these issues.
Of course, tons of good tips. Like it was question to me, buying manufacturer's oil and filter or others in fancy packaging?
Awesome videos! (Y) (Y)
Those video dislikes are from s1000rr owners😁
😂😂😂😂
I did not like my S1000RR IT WAS NOTHING ! On the other hand my Aprilla was bad to the boan over 200 hp but who cares because it turned and fit my body better ! I go less miles out of the tiers too 2000 miles a set . That from more power to the ground.
I have a ‘22 S1000RR and liked this video. My bike is a straight beast. All. Day. Long.
Brock's videos are always helpful. Thank you Brock.
Awesome work! GSX-R is back!
You may have convinced me to replace the 1200 in my lightning sprint with a GSX-R. I like the way you work, Brock!
Love the torque wrench on the drain plug. A man after my own heart.
Another great video. Thanks for showing me the way on my 2017 GSXR1000R! It runs fantastic!
@fier23 - Glad to hear!
Hey that voice of experience is something that everybody should listen to! Great idea! I am gonna subscribe just cuz of that tip.
I recently bought a 2018 gsxr 1000R. Very surprised to see it still used the old 10 40. With such a high rpm a assumed we would be at a lower weight. Awesome machine. Can't wait to stop up at Brocks and get a full exhaust system with proper ecu settings. We have the best man right here in the great state of Ohio.
Brock, I plan to stop by your shop next time I'm in Dayton OH, from the DC metro area. Very good video and content.
Another great video Brock. You are really looking comfortable in front of the camera. Probably not as many retakes. Keep up the great work. The gsxr will be Stupid Fast at the drag strip. Can't wait for 1/4 mile times!
Two thumbs up! Thanks Brock, keep the vids coming
It's official when I get my Gixxer I'm getting my the Brock's setup badass bruh 👊🏿
Great bloody name mate, 'Brock' is the most famous name in Australian Motorsport .. and then topping it of with 'Davidson' what a pearler .. Pretty good way to start life.being born with that name.
Awesome work
See long description for video time tags. More info. on 2005 GSX-R1000 mentioned (not 1100... I misspoke ): blog.brocksperformance.com/customer-testimonial-alisyn-oil-and-petron-tony-wiford/
Brock Davidson so is pretty much a hair's difference between the New Suzuki 1000 BMW s1000 r1m and ZX-10R
Brock make a shorty exhaust plz not just a slip on
@Johnny Smith - define 'shorty'. Our Alien Head full system is short and powerful: brocksperformance.com/alien-head-2-full-system-14-muffler-gsx-r1000-and-gsx-r1000r-17-18/
Just got back into the super bike realm. I know where I'm getting my performance parts for my next bike; here in Ohio. Maybe a road trip is in store too. Keep up wit the great videos and products.
Magnificent obsession, well done Brock! I know you have more tricks up your sleeve? Lets see how far the rabbit hole goes. By far these series are hands down the best, much appreciated.👍👍👍
@MotoZeal - of course (:
@Brock - Very impressive. I would be very interested in the Quick/Blip installation, and its consistency over time compared to the RR. Not sure anyone would have thought 204 hp out of this bike, even with MR-12. This set-up is just amazing, a winning package. We've had a few 70 degree days in Texas recently, hit the twisties, mixed in some wheelies, the bike just keeps getting better, all in stock form. At 194-204 hp (depending on which package is used) this bike's grunt & scream is destined for beast-hood, what an amazing piece of machinery. GIXZILLA, it LIVES!!
It's been averaging 20 degree temps/snow and rain here in Ohio. We can't wait to get her out in the springtime.
cool video man, very informative. Subscribed!
Definitely would be interesting to see what some timing advancements would result in! Then I'd think it would get into the nitty gritty of per horsepower stack ups after porting heads.
"No no no ... We take them out of the room and hide them." I was dying from laughter the whole time, good stuff!!
Oh yeah....I know of several bikes that have been accidentally started with no oil. I know of a racebike that made a full 1/4 mile run with no oil!
Very generous dyno you have their sir.
Nice one mate. Cheers.
Really like your vids. Subbed. 👍
Very very well done Brock. Keep doing these videos. I'm learning a lot and I'm sure others are too. And over 200HP wow thats impressive. haha
Thanks @Jaret, I'm glad you are enjoying the series. Keep up the good work on your channel, I watch you also (:
LOL...I do the same thing with keys on aircraft oil changes ! 😂
The cost of a "whoopsie" is just too high.
Thank you sir, new knowledge for me.
I used Alysin less that zero at 999 miles in my 2018 R1. Three thousand miles later with the Petron Plus additive here in South Texas the bike is running fantastic. I was just told to change it every 3,000-4,000 miles. At 599 miles I changed it with Yamalube15-50w Full Synthetic. Then before I had her dyno tuned I changed to Amsoil oil filter and Alysin. Love this stuff! Brock Davidson
@Jose - thanks for your input! Please post a review in our store if you get a moment: brocksperformance.com/petron-oil-additive-4-cycle-lube/
@@BrockDavidson I live in California, 40 miles south of Fresno, I just bought a 22 ZX10R, did my 1st oil change 550 miles, put in Castrol Power1 10W-40 full synthetic in , now has 900 miles on it My next oil change. I was going to use the oil you recommended along with that. Additive which weight would you go with and I ride spring summer fall winter I daily my bike to work everyday.
Thanks for your reply and help.
Like you said, warming up all the oil and grease loosens things up. Engine, wheel bearings, chain etc. More HP.
Great stuff !,
Glad to see I'm not the only one who makes a mess, regardless how hard I try not to! lol
Most definitely on the bmw zx10 comparison there all running together now
Looks like Suzuki stepped it up
Very smart on Suzuki’s part they needed it
The fueling on the bike looks phenomenal almost like it's perfect set.. No backfires no putting and looks cleaaaannn
P
Lol during the tune they block the xD PAIR system. It's responsible fof poping
The Suzuki Ecstar oil is full synthetic just like almost all modern motor oil. Love your video series.
Ecstar is the prefered oil for use in the GSX-R1000. We use our Alisyn because the light weight (viscosity) helps the engine accelerate quicker for drag racing.
@@BrockDavidson That makes sense (and it certainly seems to work well for you) and you did a good job explaining the benefits and your experience with these lubricants.
I just wanted to bring attention to the fact that these lubricants have gotten pretty advanced compared to where they used to be.
Also, it really is too bad you can't ship to California. I want to buy a full package from you :(.
@Brian - www.bills-exhausts.com/
@@BrockDavidson Hell yes, thanks
Brock not sure if I missed it in one of your videos but did you or are you still going to play around with ignition timing Thanks
Any video on the brocks window link install on the 2017 gsxr 1000 coming up
The last couple of days I’ve been watching your videos , and what I have to say is WOW! Awesome stuff!
Talking about oil , have you ever used or heard of MILITEC-1 oil additive ?
I’ve been using it over 10 years and love it. You should definitely look in to it . Less friction, smoother ride , just a great product over all. Last year put more than 55k miles on my 2014 FZ09 using it with Castrol oil 10w50 ( here in Los Angeles ) with no issues what’s so ever!
It would be nice to see some numbers on the dyno when add to the oil.
Thanks again for the great content on your channel.
Glad you like our vids. I have not tried MILITEC-1. It took us years to confirm an additive that truly worked for our application - so we stick with the Petron+. We have tested other additives that made a bit more power... but we also encountered clutch slip and a couple even produced corrosion of internal components. You haven't lived until you have wiped oil off of a rusty connecting rod or trans. gear.
Have you thought that the solids in the petron additive will accumulate in the oil galleries?
I'm kind of surprised you didn't talk about the deceleration part of the graph you can see the superior low-friction quality when you look at the Dcell part
Hey Brock, whats your opinion on using Alisyn in heaver applications such as high performance v-twins air and liquid cooled in the 20W50 weight? You said you use Alisyn in all your bikes with "stock engines" can you elaborate more on that? What oil do you use for modified engines?
I love the new GSXR. I thought it already had the autoblipper by the way you were downshifting so quick there.
@Beam - the auto-blipper was being used in this video and is available in our store. We just haven't outlined it in this build series, yet.
Shake... Shake... Shake the heck outta that Patron Sir! Awesome video 💪💪💪✔️🇺🇲
650ib this bike gonna kill 650lb’s BMW sponsorship bikes.
Do a Brock's performance gixxer in the next patreon season
We don't want to make money... we just LOVE making motorcycles faster ;)
when the honda sp video coming brother
+Brock Davidson true
How frequently we gonna have to change the oil then?! It will last 3000miles on a street racing use?
Try taping the key to the oil jug. 👍 Once it’s empty, you can retrieve the key.
Thanks Brock
Name of the oil and the stuff in the black bottle. please?
Merry Christmas Brock
Brock 2013 Busa
Pump gas flash/tune
Brocks meg exh.
Made 188.2hp
Did your 10/30pro Alysin oil.
Power charge treatment .
Petron added.
Sprint filter.
Shnitz short stacks.
Re.dyno. made 195.7hp same dyno
Weather/humidity was about the same.
15k on bike 93 pump gas.
Next test mr12 an evac crank case mod. Hopefully make 206hp.
I use Motul 7100 10/40 full synthetic on my 2020 zx10 and 2009 cbr600. And I use K&N oil filters. My bikes run great. I've never heard of the oil you use. Very interesting.
Motul makes great oil!:Our Alisyn is specialized, so many don't know about it. We only use Alisyn in our @brocksperf bikes.
Hi Brock! You put quite interesting & informative videos up here, I like to watch them - thanks! I have a question about those hp numbers: @ the rear wheel or calculated flywheel figures?
At the rear wheel on the SAE scale. Please see the long description for more info.
Thank You Sir
Nice video. Great you are explaining every detail. I had hoped you would do a run with the alisyn oil and after that a run with petron plus added, just to see the results.
Quick question: i've got a Triumph Street Triple with 55k (km not miles). The engine (mildly tuned) is still running great. Would it be a good idea to ad petron plus to extend engine
life?
@Jan - yes. We use Petron in our cars (have seen as much as a 3 MPG increase!), trucks etc. I even use it in our 28 HP Kawasaki-motored mower. It mixes with any brand/type of motor oil.
Do some Ignition Timing adjustments.....please
Brock, you rock!
I agree. You can't say it , but I can...... K&N filters take way too long to get oil pressure after changing. I wonder how many heart attacks they've caused😥. Fill the filter before fitting or better still, use a genuine oil filter. 🤗
The very first time we hurt a motor due to an aftermarket filter not flowing oil, we switched to an only OEM policy and never looked back.
Love to watch these episodes. Do you ever plan a series for the newest R1???
We performed all of these tests/development on the 2015 R1/R1M also - we just didn't document the entire process on TH-cam like we did for Gixzilla. Check out our R1 info. page: www.brocksperformance.com/brocknm/templates/bpp1.aspx?articleid=779&zoneid=22
True ,and thank you
good video brock
Thanks again for the video Brock! Will the racing oil maybe make a bigger difference after you put some more miles into it? Will it then not thin out a little bit more?
@Freek - It typically does. We will show those results in an upcoming vid.
Would definitely like to see how well it would run with just the ecu flash n pump gas With some quick shift n auto blip action thrown into the mix.
We made the ECU/pump gas video: th-cam.com/video/uuwPdWOSGRA/w-d-xo.html the qs/ab have no effect on power - they just sound cool (:
Sprint P08 F1-85 Air Filter achieved a gain of +2.26hp over stock Air Filter. Very nice.
I heard about you a long time ago back when Joe Marasco was running around small towns with a hired rider and a bike hustling drug dealers out of their money at the track. I had an old 94 gsxr 1100 with a 56 tooth rear sprocket and a mechanical switch rigged up to the throttle that opened up a hidden nitrous system hidden under the rear fender and the air box. I would rev the piss out of it when I would purge the system into an air release muffler that I got from work.
Top Class.
Parabéns você sabe tudo pena que moro no Brasil . Tenho uma suzuki rr a 1000cc modelo 2020 bela máquina.
Thank You.
I have a question I have a 03 Yamaha R6 2nd gear for me feel a little bit like it something's there but they say it's just me but I was wondering about putting a aftermarket clutch from STG high performance but it's only going to be driven on the highways and freeways but sometimes I like to go fast
We use OEM clutches.
Add a yellow jump suit and this looks like an episode of BREAKING BAD.
forgot to ask, do you use any of dyno jets other products like the secondary fuel module or igitinio control or spark control models?
@Tim - not really. We can add more fuel to the secondary injectors (if required-and rarely is) and adjust the timing in the flash.
So I'm in texas and it is very hot in the summer what oil would you recommend for my gsxr 600?
@STON3 - here you go: blog.brocksperformance.com/faq/what-is-the-best-weight-alisyn-oil-for-my-application/
Is the Petron Plus Oil additive good for street bike like the Alisyn Pro Drive 21?
Yes - check this out: blog.brocksperformance.com/customer-testimonial-alisyn-oil-and-petron-tony-wiford/
Is it ok to use this light oil in early 80,s big bore bikes, ie: Suzuki Gs1100e ?
Those engines like a bit more viscosity. The petron additive works great in them though.
Absolutely Smashing videos!!!!!!
Hello there ,
I have a question, first thing I have the R version and i have installed the predator full exhaust and sprint filter.
Before tuning , the bike did 172 whp. After tuning it did 181 . Is there something i could do to get more horse power?
Hello @Meshari M - This entire stock-to-Brock video series is dedicated to answering those questions. Did you vary from the combinations we listed?
hi brocks
all your videos are soo well done and i always learn seeing them well done brother
questions please
can i use the
Additive: Petron Plus 4-Cycle Lube on my zx10r 2020 model with 10w40 full synthetic oil pls
tankyou fof your time sir :))
Glad you like our vids Clenton. Yes, Petron additive can be mixed with any other oil weight, petrolium or synthetic.
@@BrockDavidson thanks for your reply sir 👌👌
brock davidson i have a 2006 zx14 that previous owner placed a 2008 header which has the catalytic converter and also they didnt even have mufflers on it and i found secondary throttle blades was removed... so what ive done was gut the converters and i found a used set of vance and hines cs-1 mufflers to put on since it didnt have any mufflers when i bought bike. should i feel a power difference with this? it didnt run bad just loud as #### and i feel that it would hurt bikes power with no mufflers. i also used just 10w-40 motorcycle mobil oil but if i can buy better oil that is proven to reduce engine wear and reliability then i will but would a lower weight oil hurt my zx14? im hoping the cats removed in header will help with engine heat also but ill be needing a ecu flash im guessing and id like to dyno bike to see if it even makes 150hp to rear wheel
@Danger Davefpv - Hello. I can't answer the question about your pipe, other than to say that if you want to truly make more power, that gains are to be found in replacing the OEM headpipes more than any changes you can make on the muffler side. We used the Mobil 1 for years. iIts a great oil and relatively inexpensive. We switched to our Alisyn Aerospace to extract maximum power and acceleration. Go to our ZX-14 Diaries to see what we did to our 2006 ZX-14 and the performance increases we measured: blog.brocksperformance.com/kawasaki-zx-14-06-11/
That debris on plug is from transmission not engine. Mostly roller bearing material.
hola @Brock Davidson cual es tu recomendación para street 750 R 2016
Todas las mismas técnicas se pueden utilizar para el 2016750. Escape, PCV, filtro Sprint, aceite alisyn, peteron, etc.
Hey Brock! Have you ever put Rotella T6 oil in a bike? I've used this with some Motorcote and even a little Lucas oil additive. But I'm sure you could test this hypothesis? I am quite the mad scientist when mixing oils together lol. Also what about lifetime oil filters? Like Flo or System1? I run a Flo and just the cost savings over a year pays for itself and I believe it works if not better than O.e.m. Do you rebuild engines? Like take a stock 750 and bore it out? Or is this something a specific engine builder would do? What about turbo? Are you adding one to this Gixer?
Yes on the Rotella - Good stuff! But it works much better in my diesel truck, IMO. We use only OEM Oil Filters.
Check this about rebuilding engines: bit.ly/3aXtFTK
I know you might not see this but how you mention the kawasaki 10w-40 is great to run, would it become too much running it with Petron Plus as well? Seeing as how it thickens up the less than 0 weight would it be too much on 10w-40?
Please see the note at the end of this FAQ as it applies to all oil. We like the Petron + because it adds zinc to the engine for additional protection: blog.brocksperformance.com/faq/what-is-the-best-weight-alisyn-oil-for-my-application/
Bad ass!
What do you think of Liqui Moly oil. They also have oil additive. Motogp uses it. Have you ever used it? What's your take on This? I use mobile 1 10w40 4t racing. No additives
@Tiwst - we have not used Liquid Molly oil.
Sir can you give me opportunties to work with you and understand love for the bike
Hey Brock I have a question for you. I would think with drag racing you would be all about putting in a quick turn throttle. I put one in 2 of my 3 bikes. A 2017 ninja 1000 and a 2019 Suzuki GSX-R750 and for $80 for a G2 quick turn throttle it actually makes a noticeable difference. It almost makes it feel like the bike is more powerful even though it's just getting to WOT quicker. A little detail like that and a detail like a sprocket swap. A small detail here and their all makes a big difference. What's your thoughts on this?
In sportbike drag racing, the opposite is true. The rider must modulate front wheel height using throttle and clutch control. If the throttle opens too quickly, it becomes more difficult to modulate front wheel height. Of course, if the throttle is very slow, this is a problem also but most modern sportbikes are very good.
Man, u making me want to take my 17’ GSXR 1000R to you to get all this stuff done ! Wonder how much all that would be.
@Ryda 1000 - that's the beauty of how we do business. We develop the combinations, send them to you (with all maps pre-loaded) and you, or your shop install. You have EXACTLY what we have here, and it's all 100% ready to run out of the box. please call 937-912-0054 for pricing, etc.
Hello. Sir is it mandatory to fill the oil filter before installation? I see mechanics never fill it up. They just screw it in and fill the engine.
We are seeing the opposite. Most new bikes we see are overful. That can be a real issue on a supercharged bike.
Where are you guys located I would like to come visit you guys and get y’all to do some work to my bike and tune it. I have the twin to this bike but it is the R model
blog.brocksperformance.com/faq/do-i-need-to-physically-bring-my-bike-to-brocks-performance-in-ohio-for-a-performance-tune/
do you have a titanium full exhaust for the BMW S1000RR 2018. If so where can I purchase?
Yes. They are available in our store: brocksperformance.com/brocks-exhaust-systems/titanium-full-systems/bmw/
I know your gonna take it to the track , so how long of a arm ? Or gonna keep it swb?
It will eventually get stretched to 64" wb. But we would like to make it work SBW first.
Have you tried/your thoughts on hi-flo oil filters?
After 40+ years in the motorcycle industry witnessing multiple aftermarket oil filter issues (fitment issues/leaks/o-ring failures/filter media failure and the worst... NO FLOW out of the box?!) we switched to exclusively using OEM ONLY after also observing ZERO failures or problems over the same time period. the OEM's have far superior engineering and QC processes to assure the filter works as desired - they also have the money to make this happen that many aftermarket suppliers simply don't have.
Brock I have the full alien head bearings tuned and on mr 12 41 sprocket what else can I do to make my bike perform faster? Oh and the filter
Do you have our ECU flash?
Yes are the BEST!!!!!!!
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Brock Davidson Can a 2016 gsx-r1000 tail fairing fit on a 2017 gsx-r100? Or does the 2017 750 or 600 tail fairing fit?
I'm only asking because my 2017 gsx-r100 doesn't have the integrated tail lights like the previous/other gsx-r models.
I don't believe so, but I have not attempted.
@@BrockDavidson ok thx
Sweet. Just curious, what would it take $$ to get my ZX14R SE set up for land speed racing? I want to pass 200mph. It's a completely stock 2016 bike with 700 miles on it right now. I'm here in Ohio too, not far from 650ib actually by the filthy streets of Cleveland, haha. I know there's some regulations like a metal chain guard and such. I'm finishing some of my dad's bucket list items for him since he passed away last year. He never saw 200mph. Hence the reason I bought the ZX14R.
@Photo - Please give us a call 937-912-0054. Our customer service team can put a combination together to match your use and budget. FYI: one of our customers still holds the LSR record for a 14r using only bolt-on components at 212.898 MPH . Check her out here: www.brocksperformance.com/brocknm/templates/bpp1.aspx?articleid=363&zoneid=10