I start to find the same to be true with swimming - namely, breathing control and trying to breathe less often doesn't make much sense if you don't have sufficient VO2 max to support it. Same with the "gliding" and "stroke lengthening" - if you don't have sufficient force to propel yourself fast enough then all this effort will only result in slowing yourself down. Naturally, there are some techincal errors that can and should be fixed early on, but after you master the basics there is only marginal benefit in refining your technique if your cardiovascular/muscular system can't sustain it. Basically - everyone promising "effortless swimming" is pretty much peddling as much BS as people who sell "pose running" :).
Well said! I never thought about swimming. There’s always a limited factor. That’s why I separate running performance and rehabilitation into five separate buckets: technique, strength, mobility, VO2 max, and mindset. Some of the buckets need to be filled first and are more important than the others.
@@learn2run101 for example, I used to have a problem with running out of breath with swimming when my VO2 max was worse. Now, breathing is non issue, but due to the fact that I neglected the pool a bit in favor of running/cycling/gym, I have plenty of breath but the biggest limiting factor are my rotator cuff muscles which, when fatigued, make all my swimming technique go out of the window :p.
@@h4xi0rek I’ve never been a good swimmer lol. What carryover, if any, of performance is there among all your endurance activities? Does one seem to help all?
@@learn2run101 to be fair I see a lot of carryover from running to cycling (though it seems that my quads can't handle my vo2 max on a bike, as I never reached my max HR on a bike - while running I reached 197, the top for cycling was around 181). With swimming, it certainly improved my breathing (and vice versa). In case of the gym/lifting, better cardio fitness allows me to get away with shorter breaks between sets (though,I usually do sort of circuit training, for example - alternating bench press with bent over row with 1,5-2min breaks). One of the biggest benefits of running is greatly improved tolerance to hot weather (which used to be a nightmare for me when I was unfit, now it is just an annoyance :))
@@h4xi0rek nice! You are very well rounded with your training. I would like to get more used to handling the heat as well. Looking forward to running outside more often. Just got a Peloton bike that’s getting delivered today. Looking to mix it up a bit.
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I start to find the same to be true with swimming - namely, breathing control and trying to breathe less often doesn't make much sense if you don't have sufficient VO2 max to support it. Same with the "gliding" and "stroke lengthening" - if you don't have sufficient force to propel yourself fast enough then all this effort will only result in slowing yourself down. Naturally, there are some techincal errors that can and should be fixed early on, but after you master the basics there is only marginal benefit in refining your technique if your cardiovascular/muscular system can't sustain it.
Basically - everyone promising "effortless swimming" is pretty much peddling as much BS as people who sell "pose running" :).
Well said! I never thought about swimming. There’s always a limited factor. That’s why I separate running performance and rehabilitation into five separate buckets: technique, strength, mobility, VO2 max, and mindset. Some of the buckets need to be filled first and are more important than the others.
@@learn2run101 for example, I used to have a problem with running out of breath with swimming when my VO2 max was worse. Now, breathing is non issue, but due to the fact that I neglected the pool a bit in favor of running/cycling/gym, I have plenty of breath but the biggest limiting factor are my rotator cuff muscles which, when fatigued, make all my swimming technique go out of the window :p.
@@h4xi0rek I’ve never been a good swimmer lol. What carryover, if any, of performance is there among all your endurance activities? Does one seem to help all?
@@learn2run101 to be fair I see a lot of carryover from running to cycling (though it seems that my quads can't handle my vo2 max on a bike, as I never reached my max HR on a bike - while running I reached 197, the top for cycling was around 181). With swimming, it certainly improved my breathing (and vice versa). In case of the gym/lifting, better cardio fitness allows me to get away with shorter breaks between sets (though,I usually do sort of circuit training, for example - alternating bench press with bent over row with 1,5-2min breaks). One of the biggest benefits of running is greatly improved tolerance to hot weather (which used to be a nightmare for me when I was unfit, now it is just an annoyance :))
@@h4xi0rek nice! You are very well rounded with your training. I would like to get more used to handling the heat as well. Looking forward to running outside more often. Just got a Peloton bike that’s getting delivered today. Looking to mix it up a bit.