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  • @josephandashlynmcfatridge4966
    @josephandashlynmcfatridge4966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    My husband looked at me in horror near the beginning of the video when I remarked I had not read any Plato. He then insisted I must read Plato's Apology as a good start. Klavan then recommended Plato's Apology... Guess I'm reading Plato's Apology.

    • @daniellamunoz8894
      @daniellamunoz8894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yesss! Then The Republic next, Gorgeas is great too! All of Plato's dialogues are easy to read and very interesting. Would not recommend any Aristotle for an easy read, those are very hard to read even if they're equally interesting, very unfortunate.

    • @robinolsen7210
      @robinolsen7210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniellamunoz8894 The Magna Moralia is a fairly easy read, although some scholars now dispute its authorship. Also, Platos Protagoras is a good companion to Gorgias and the Republic.

    • @cowboybeboop9420
      @cowboybeboop9420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly I don`t understand you Americans. "Crime and Punishment" as well as all of Dostoevsky`s books are foundational for the Orthodox civilization. Plato has nothing to do with the West nor do the Ancient Greeks.
      In fact most of the stuff the Ancient Greeks have done had nothing to do with the modern West. My lands the Balkans gave birth to all of these guys from Plato, Aristotle, Athenian Democracy, etc and eventually we got so hurt and disgusted by this stuff that we went another way and built a very different world. A lot of the West ideas actually come from German tribes and they get completely ignored and described as barbarians.

    • @morridx
      @morridx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniellamunoz8894 Aristotle is not easy, I would still say that a familiarity with his Nicomachean Ethics and his Politics are essential to understanding the world today.

    • @CarloRossi54523
      @CarloRossi54523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many children do you want?

  • @jarom4277
    @jarom4277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +643

    1. The Bible (Luke)
    2. The Bible (Romans)
    3. Plato's Apology (Grube)
    4. Antigone
    5. Ovid Metamorphoses
    6. Suetonius (Caligula)
    7. Sir Gawan and the Green Knight
    8. Heart of Darkness
    9. Huckleberry Finn
    10. The Great Gatsby

    • @tonyascancook
      @tonyascancook 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      thank you...

    • @JBB685
      @JBB685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      God bless you! They should add that in the description

    • @jesusmysavior2424
      @jesusmysavior2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you , I also took note of “Crime and Punishment “, is it on the list?

    • @JBB685
      @JBB685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually #1 is Luke and #2 is Romans, your 5 and 6 are the same recommendation.

    • @shell..47
      @shell..47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you

  • @strellasmith777
    @strellasmith777 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Advice from a literature teacher: if you are brand spanking new to classical literature, I recommend starting with the “children’s books.” Read The Chronicles of Narnia, Little Women, Anne of Green Gables, Tom Sawyer, The Hobbit, The Princess and the Goblin. Then move on to more difficult reads. The Lord of the Rings, Huck Finn, Jane Eyre, C.S. Lewis’s Space Trilogy, A Christmas Carol, Pride and Prejudice. Then you can tackle the big leagues. Crime and Punishment, Les Miserables, MacBeth, The Iliad, Odyssey, The Divine Comedy. Most importantly always, always read your Bible! The Gospels are a great start, but Genesis and Exodus have some rollicking good stories too! Psalms is beautiful. Proverbs full of wisdom. Romans is for practical, Christian living. If you’ve been raised on a steady diet of television and social media, it will take some time to adjust your brain to reading great books, but it is incredibly worth it! Happy adventures in the world of stories!

    • @janetbell78
      @janetbell78 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Excellent advice!!

    • @allen5455
      @allen5455 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What do you say to the oh so narcissistic young, twenty-something, atheist saying: "I read the Bible when I was twelve. The Bible is full of contradictions, I read it thru, and so, this is true. Christians employ circular reasoning and argument ad homenim. I am right, you are wrong!" That's what the atheist says.

  • @CesarVialpando420
    @CesarVialpando420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I’d love to see Andrew do more literature based videos. As a conservative patron of the arts, I feel pretty alone amidst the utter desecration of the greats by the left. Shakespeare has been cancelled in some universities in the UK (where I am from)

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Although ultra-violent, I tend to prefer Shakespeare's Roman tragedies to his later work except maybe Macbeth.

    • @jaysams1608
      @jaysams1608 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C D, likewise. I love the arts, in particular literature. It’s difficult to find a conservative person who also shares an interest in the arts to discuss and share that interest with.

    • @overlex
      @overlex ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Right? Ever since he famously replied to this PC culture warrior student, asking “What Books on Feminist literature have you read that makes you such an expert on women?” and Klavan magnificently replied:
      “Unfortunately for you, I’ve read All of them” 😂

    • @mydogsareneat
      @mydogsareneat ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was left. until they targetted art. Im nothing now. Openly.

    • @gastondeveaux3783
      @gastondeveaux3783 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But the right, and MAGA are banning books left and right.

  • @thomaspomeroy5678
    @thomaspomeroy5678 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    He appointed his Horse as a Senator. He wanted a Stable Government.😁

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a good one!

    • @jupiter5719
      @jupiter5719 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stopppp xd

    • @tonytynan1955
      @tonytynan1955 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We'd need more than one horse

  • @conniesobotka4491
    @conniesobotka4491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    His son, Spencer Klavan had a podcast, “Young Heretics”, that examines many of these books. I recommend it, especially if you tend to read books rather straightforwardly.

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I just subscribe to "Young Heretics".

    • @jonathancurtis5122
      @jonathancurtis5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      His son, to whom he has no relation.

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathancurtis5122 Can you expand?

    • @emmawagner471
      @emmawagner471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooh! Thanks for the recommendation! Will check it out👍

    • @bradyhayes7911
      @bradyhayes7911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kamilziemian995 that's just a joke Klavan always says when he refers to his son "Spencer Klavan, no relation"

  • @scottcarroll9201
    @scottcarroll9201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Listen, I know Crime and Punishment is a tough book to read. It's intimidating, staring at all those pages filled with characters who have weird names, but I GUARANTEE, if you persevere and make it to the end of that book you will not regret it. And you will probably consider it the greatest fiction book you've ever read. It's that life-changing.

    • @gigahorse1475
      @gigahorse1475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s my favorite book… the only one that actually made my heart pound. I loved every minute of reading it.

    • @STB-jh7od
      @STB-jh7od 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read for entertainment as well as education, so if a book is this hard to read, NO THANKS.

    • @jeanarmstrong4182
      @jeanarmstrong4182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Much easier if you listen to, and then find some teaching videos. Both easily found on TH-cam. I dislike the main character which diminished my enjoyment of the story.

    • @alexdowd02
      @alexdowd02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@STB-jh7od it’s not that hard to read it just takes a little getting used to at first, also depends on the translation, but it’s such a good book that you will entertain yourself thinking about it after your done reading

    • @bobjrfdny7360
      @bobjrfdny7360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ive been wanting to try Dostoevsky for a long time, his books have been recommended to me by many people that I look up too. What is the best one to start with or “get my feet wet”.

  • @menandermenandros5532
    @menandermenandros5532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    If you're looking for just a good fiction read, The Count of Monte Cristo will always be a masterpiece. You gotta read it unabridged though. None of that half the length crap.

    • @daniellamunoz8894
      @daniellamunoz8894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG yesssss I read this for the first time a year ago and it's one of my all-time favorites! One of the most satisfying and entertaining reads ever

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great choice indeed. It's always a toss-up for me what I like more the count or Le mis. I love them equally.

    • @antilikka
      @antilikka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read this and almost died. It’s so frigging long, but I love I can say I read it now

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antilikka
      Lol , it's a monster

    • @Grahamshawx
      @Grahamshawx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An excellent book, superbly written and one of the greatest novels on revenge you could ever find. No happy endings here though!

  • @CornerTalker
    @CornerTalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Adults are having trouble reading adult classics because they didn't read the kids' classics.
    Grade School: Treasure Island, The Secret Garden, The Hobbit, Call of the Wild and White Fang, Wind in the Willows, Alice X2, Tom Sawyer, the Jungle Books, Black Beauty.
    High School: To Kill a Mockingbird, Great Expectations, Lord of the Rings, Kidnapped, Heart of Darkness, Of Mice and Men, Lord of the Flies, Night, The Good Earth, Taras Bulba and the Overcoat by Gogol, Huck Finn, Animal Farm and 1984, War of the World and the Time Machine, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
    More Mature books: The Odyssey (Lattimore), Turn of the Screw, Ovid's Metamorphoses, David Copperfield, Frankenstein, Pride & Prejudice, Merry Adventures of Robin Hood by Howard Pyle, The Wind in the Willows
    These are books I think are excellent AND I actually enjoyed reading.

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would add The Yearling, Lone Cowboy, and the Narnia books.
      My mother read Huck Finn to us in grade school and that seems appropriate to me.

    • @talithakoum3922
      @talithakoum3922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      _The Wind in the Willows_ is fine for grade school if you read it out loud. Agreed with the person who recommended the Narnia series. I'd add _Anne of Green Gables_ and _Little Women._

    • @CornerTalker
      @CornerTalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@talithakoum3922 absolutely.

  • @toplaycool21
    @toplaycool21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I am developing a classic novel collection. I have Oliver Twist, The Great Gatsby, Frankenstein, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Rob Roy, Tom Sawyer, The Odyssey, Pinocchio, Great Expectations etc.

    • @daviddafflon4392
      @daviddafflon4392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great expectations is such a wonderful book. My mother offered it to me and it ended up being my favorite book. Great collection my friend!

    • @talithakoum3922
      @talithakoum3922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great start! I'd recommend the _Iliad, Aeneid, Divine Comedy, Julius Caesar, Richard III, Macbeth, Hamlet, The Tempest, Pride and Prejudice, A Christmas Carol, Jane Eyre, Middlemarch, Huckleberry Finn, The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, The Chronicles of Narnia, The Screwtape Letters_ and _To Kill a Mockingbird._

    • @matthewgallant3622
      @matthewgallant3622 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How many have you read?

  • @RC-xo7ds
    @RC-xo7ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Andrew, thanks for another great entry. Please consider turning this into a series. You do an excellent job making these classics feel relevant and essential for understanding and navigating contemporary issues.

    • @RC-xo7ds
      @RC-xo7ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly offer as Premium content for DW subscribers.

    • @14xx07
      @14xx07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally true! I’m wowed by the way Claveny charms us with these books!

  • @JW-ue1xg
    @JW-ue1xg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Music is a good way to get into Western civilisation - Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms, Schubert

  • @davidvolsky7713
    @davidvolsky7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you, Andrew, if you happen to read this comment. This is the type of content I really enjoy.

  • @bigtuna8149
    @bigtuna8149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I read The Great Gatsby for my AP Literature class and it is one of my favorite books ever. It's fantastic and I had no one in my class who agreed with me. But everyone should read it, it's a masterpiece.

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Carter, you must have shared a classroom with barbarians. 😆 🤣
      Absolute classic. FSF was part of a golden era of post WW1 authors.

    • @michaelhart1072
      @michaelhart1072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It depends how it’s taught. If you teach it poorly to kids without a reference frame then it really isn’t all that good

    • @bigtuna8149
      @bigtuna8149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelhart1072 It was given to us as a summer reading assignment and we were welcome to interpret it our own way. We wrote an essay on it discussing whether "it lives up to the hype" and a majority of the class completely hated the book. We never truly discussed the book itself, but we have referenced it several times and it is apparent my teacher is on the same side as my fellow students.

    • @theancientsam
      @theancientsam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for saying so I have been curious about picking mine up I have a copy I only ever read the first page but even the first page the first thing that Dad says makes me think just remember when you're arguing with someone to try to put yourself in their place or something like that remember that not everyone is has the privilege that you do or something. Anyway I guess I'll read it. I bumped into someone a couple weeks ago who said that he had to read it in college and it bored him to tears but he looked like a woke individual

    • @kylekatarn5964
      @kylekatarn5964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can't believe that was in an AP Lit class. I read that in regular English in High School.

  • @fooberdooge3103
    @fooberdooge3103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's a bit of a hard read at first, but "Le Morte d'Arthur" is another great piece of late medieval literature dealing with the Arthurian legend.

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read it years ago when I was at hospital with some flue :) But actualy I prefer Beowulf, Kalevala, and Mabinogion.

    • @starshiplazyboy475
      @starshiplazyboy475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I feel "The Story of King Arthur and His Knights" by Pyle is an easier read and (having read a number of good and bad books on Arthurian legend) I believe it to be every bit as good as "Le Mort d'Arthur", but that's just my opinion.

  • @Ty-nm6qb
    @Ty-nm6qb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Klavan mentions Les Miserables as a book that is a little too advanced. I recently read an updated translation and was completely mesmerised! Very readable.
    The searching, philosophical analysis that Victor Hugo weaves throughout the (brilliant) narrative is wonderful. Great insight into redemption and the pitfalls of clinging coldly to iron-clad principles laid down by man rather than striving to know God through humanity.
    I highly recommend it. Definitely repays dedicated reading and you can skip over the long digressions (e.g, battle of Waterloo) which are slightly opaque.

    • @lenoredelorenzo7855
      @lenoredelorenzo7855 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well what version is it??

    • @cindyadams9264
      @cindyadams9264 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think Les Miserables is the greatest book of all time…

  • @saytr4
    @saytr4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just resolved to go get a library card today. Thanks Klavan.

    • @WebSurfingIsMyPastime
      @WebSurfingIsMyPastime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro, u can download all these books for free online in pdf form, instead of waiting on them and having to worry about returning them to the library

  • @Pappy_1775
    @Pappy_1775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    It might be too new and too long but I will always put "The Lord of the Rings" on every must read list (and hurry before Amazon destroys it).

    • @roninelenion4805
      @roninelenion4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very true. I read _The Lord of the Rings_ for the first time when I was thirteen and it changed my life.

    • @Ryan-mech-muffin
      @Ryan-mech-muffin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Reading Tolkien changed my entire life. Not an overstatement

    • @michaelvigil3436
      @michaelvigil3436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really got into Harry Potter and have been interested in something more adult like LOTR but even The Hobbit seems far more intricate then what I’m used to reading, is there anything I can do to better understand and appreciate the stories as a new reader?
      Also I usually listen to audiobooks while working as opposed to actual reading.

    • @roninelenion4805
      @roninelenion4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelvigil3436 There are a lot of characters to keep track of in both stories, which is something I hear that some readers struggle with. I watched the movies before reading the books, so I was able to put a face to names and an image to location. A fan cut of _The Hobbit_ called the Cardinal Cut was made to be more book accurate and is available to view for free. If you don't want to watch any of the movies, something that might be able to help is to keep a list of names and places. Maps are available to view online of Middle-earth and those that map out the journeys taken in the respective books. Since LotR and TH are older books, there are a lot of great audiobooks available for free on TH-cam. If you'd like to discuss the book or ask questions of someone a bit more familiar with the stories, several social media platforms have groups/communities dedicated to Tolkien. I hope that this helps.
      On a different note, I recommend _The Inheritance Cycle_ by Christopher Paolini as a more "adult" fantasy novel, if you're interested. Just like Tolkien, Paolini's world has different races, languages, and regions. The stories are more complex than children's literature, but not quite so intricate and the language isn't as elevated as Tolkien. I see it as a sort of middle ground.

    • @Ryan-mech-muffin
      @Ryan-mech-muffin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelvigil3436 I mean, there is Sparksnotes. I'd say just read more and you'll understand more with time.

  • @gebert87
    @gebert87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I recently started using audio-books. i love it. i can't always concentrate to read normally.

    • @jpwright87
      @jpwright87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For me it's the opposite. I have to rewind audiobooks constantly.

    • @MollyOKami
      @MollyOKami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I understand. When I first read one of my all-time favorite stories, The Count of Monte Cristo, it wasn't the 1,500+ pages that was the problem, but all of the French words & phrases made it intimidating (I also know Spanish & American Sign Language, I've made my investments in language 🤣). Using the audiobooks, it made it more accessible to help me get over those spots. Nowadays, I read them without any problems because I heard the audiobook in my head playing it. Plus it's fun to listen to a good book while I'm working.

    • @robynbeach3198
      @robynbeach3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can't focus on an audio books

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can only listen to them in the car. Unfortunately, listening to them in bed. I dose off.
      Taking advantage of a long drive works best for me.
      Atlas Shrugged on audio was an amazing experience.

    • @gebert87
      @gebert87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jpwright87 i rewind too, if my mind wander off too much

  • @SweetMamaG
    @SweetMamaG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Antigone was 9th grade required reading. It was pretty good I guess, but 14 year olds don't typically have an appreciation.

  • @IanFleming808
    @IanFleming808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “The Master and Margarita” is the most underrated work of fiction that needs to be made into a movie.

    • @chadvonswan
      @chadvonswan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch the Russian version on TH-cam

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @chadvonswan
      I have seen it. Not bad at all. There is also Brothers karamazov movie on worth a watch as well.

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I loved Master and Margarita, and I followed it by reading Heart of the Dog.

  • @summerlakephotog8239
    @summerlakephotog8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m surprised that The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius was not mentioned. It really set the tone for the Christian ethic of the Middle Ages - very influential. Also the writings of the Roman stoics like Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus shaped the spiritual beliefs of some of our Founders and in the late 20th Century were integral to Tom Wolfe’s best novels. Finally, I found For Whom the Bell Tolls to be a great exposition of what happens in country made up of two factions with irreconcilable differences. It’s a page turner that makes you think about our immediate future.

  • @Fardawg
    @Fardawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    10:34 The monster in the mythology was called Cetus (hence the constellation being Cetus). The monster being called a "kraken" comes from the 1981 movie "Clash of the Titans." A kraken is actually a legendary Norwegian sea monster that was possibly a giant squid or octopus in reality.

    • @philipsheppard4815
      @philipsheppard4815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I should have scrolled down further, I just posted the same thing! Hard to take him seriously when he doesn't know the difference between Ovid and Ray Harryhausen.

  • @evanboothe5649
    @evanboothe5649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just last semester I took an introductory Ancient and Medieval Studies class and we read the Metamorphoses and the Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. They were very good. We also read Einhard’s Life of Charlemagne and Notker’s Deeds of Charlemagne. Both of them are very short and I think would fit well on a list like this.

  • @Anyone690
    @Anyone690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Klavan every month or so u should do more of these

  • @brennacastor2990
    @brennacastor2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Husband and I went to the Green Knight movie on a whim, not knowing what it was about. We both absolutely loved it. Thank you for reminding me about it, I want to read the story now!

    • @cecemeyers6028
      @cecemeyers6028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read it in college as an early twenty something. No clue what it was about but watching the movie I started to remember parts of the book that originally had no meaning. A lot of artistic license was used for sure for the film. but will likely a very underrated movie. Pity.

    • @ABull8
      @ABull8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Go for Tolkien's translation. He is meticulously faithful to rendering the sound and feel of the o riginal verse. The other stories (Pearl and Sir Orfeo) are well worth it too.

    • @roninelenion4805
      @roninelenion4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read a simplified adaptation of it when I was around ten, and then read a real translation nine years later. That was an interesting experience.

    • @kilmouski4220
      @kilmouski4220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My husband and I adored that movie.

    • @brennacastor2990
      @brennacastor2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ABull8 Ooh, excellent! Thank you!

  • @saifonlawrence2044
    @saifonlawrence2044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Anything,everything Steinbeck....genius and easy to read

  • @annbrucepineda8093
    @annbrucepineda8093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Please include A Raisin in the Son by Lorraine Hansberry. It has to do with the difficulty but necessity of keeping a manly man in the home. In memory of Sir Sidney Poitier.

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      'A Raisin in the SUN' but anyway, yeah. It is a great play.
      Not till 'Ruined' by Lynn Nottage have I read such a great work of American drama by a black female playwright.

    • @toplobster1040
      @toplobster1040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We just read this for school and I absolutely LOVED A Raisin in the Sun!

  • @Hard_Boiled_Entertainment
    @Hard_Boiled_Entertainment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'd say the New King James is great for modern English while preserving the beautiful poetry of the old King James.

    • @crobeastness
      @crobeastness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its missing 7 full books and half of 2 others. instead, i would recommend the douey-rheims if you want the old poetry.

    • @Hard_Boiled_Entertainment
      @Hard_Boiled_Entertainment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crobeastness Ah the Apocrypha!

    • @crobeastness
      @crobeastness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment no, there are other written material that is the apocrypha. Duetercanical books are different. They are Cannon.

    • @Hard_Boiled_Entertainment
      @Hard_Boiled_Entertainment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crobeastness Yeah, Maccabees etc.
      Protestants call it the Apocrypha

    • @crobeastness
      @crobeastness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment i never understood why when they weren't ever part of the apocrypha. Those are separate books.

  • @lizgonzalez491
    @lizgonzalez491 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love that you started with the Bible.

  • @Ax18NY
    @Ax18NY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chronological Order...
    Iliad + Odyssey - Homer
    Fragments - Heraclitus
    Oresteia - Aeschylus
    Oedipus the King - Sophocles
    Georgics + Aeneid - Virgil
    Metamorphoses - Ovid
    Gospel of John (most beautiful, daring, poetic, timeless Gospel)
    Confessions + City of God - St. Augustine
    Divine Comedy - Dante
    Hamlet + Othello - Shakespeare
    Don Quixote - Cervantes

    • @somercet1
      @somercet1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Iliad is amazing, and we have many poetic translations in English. Heraclitus is also amazing, I hope we may yet find his full book, about which Socrates said, "What I understood of it was very good, but for the rest of it only a Delian pearl diver could sound its depths."

  • @14xx07
    @14xx07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. Thank you so so much. Your way of articulating the reasons of why they are significant is awesome. In the days where schools no longer appreciate history and seek to destroy it, I’ve been trying to get into reading about what they are so desperate to destroy.. maybe before they completely achieve it. I’m definitely gonna check them all out!

  • @josephvadalamusic
    @josephvadalamusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is fantastic and helpful, thank you, Klavan. Keep up the "foundational literature" type stuff!

  • @excelsior999
    @excelsior999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I suspect that a significant percentage of young people who will graduate from college this June have not read even one of the books on Andrew's List.
    The reasons for this sad state of affairs are multitudinous. For one thing, most of the recommended books have one or more words that are multisyllabic, such as "multitudinous" (and "multisyllabic"). Then there is the fact that all of them are more than 147 characters in length. If someone could just write a condensed version of, say, the Bible, which did not exceed the limitations that exist in Twitter Land, it might be a best seller (especially if it contained a lot of pictures).
    Also, there has to be something terribly amiss with a list of books which were written by dead Caucasian males, for (as every Wokester knows) people should be judged by the color of their skin rather than by the content of their character (or, in the case of artists, by the merit of their created works).
    Nice try, Andrew, but it's time to Fall into Line and Get with The Program.

  • @bigdog3x20
    @bigdog3x20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Excellent list. I would also suggest that anyone interested in Western thought, art, and culture develop a basic understanding of the traditional Christian Mass since that is foundational.

  • @JP-kg3ko
    @JP-kg3ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis. Holiness of GOD by RC Sproul. Pilgrim’s Progress by Bunyun. To understand Christianity is to understand classical western man.

  • @seanmoran2743
    @seanmoran2743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At lot of this is down to how bad our education systems have become

  • @lieutenantflyboy
    @lieutenantflyboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’d add: “The Western way of War” (Hanson), “The Influence of Sea Power Upon History” (Thayer Mahan), and “On War” (Von Clausewitz)

    • @marchess7420
      @marchess7420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On War as a shorter and easier read? in my opinion thats a tough one. i would humbly sugest that anyone interested in von Clausewitz's important analysis read the late Harry Summers clausewitzian analysis of the Vietnam war.

  • @michaelglandt901
    @michaelglandt901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a truly amazing enlightened monologue. A great beginning for anyone wanting to really understand and appreciate classical "Western" thought.

  • @cariboubearmalachy1174
    @cariboubearmalachy1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would choose Protagoras for Plato/Socrates. It's the most entertaining of the dialogues, and really explains both what philosophy is for and most vividly portrays Socrates as a character.

  • @donovanmedieval
    @donovanmedieval 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Several years ago, I set myself the task of listening to all of my library's audiobooks with stories that are settled supernaturally, or with preindustrial weapons, in the order in which they were set, not necessarily the order in which they were written, but if two or more things were set at the same time, I would listen to them in the order they were written. I started with the Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Aeneid, then switched to the Old Testament, and then I discovered the Great Courses lectures from The Teaching Company, which had been around the corner from where I live, but they moved as soon as I started checking out their lectures from the library. I made it to the late 19th century by October of 2018. Since it was October, I decided to listen to Dracula. I didn't finish it until well into November. I haven't continued since then, because of other things that came up in my life since then.

  • @heathercoverly1076
    @heathercoverly1076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my gosh! I love all of these. Antigone is the first Greek play I saw and fell in love.

  • @KeepingTheIronThroneWarm
    @KeepingTheIronThroneWarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A point I wish you had stressed is how RARE the West is. It doesn't make Westerners unique, it makes the situation and its conditions unique. Conditions (e.g., sanctity of life, freedom of speech) that allow categorical development the world never saw before in any culture and likely never will again. This is why the West and its values should be guarded at all cost.

  • @kaytepike1615
    @kaytepike1615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the New King James Version. Moby Dick and To Kill a Mockingbird would be two must reads for literature. They're both pretty long, but I thought they were very accessible and enjoyable.

  • @aribbonatatime
    @aribbonatatime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You can never have too much Bible.
    After that my favorite is Pilgrim's progress. Wonderful allegory of our life here on earth and some of the best prose in English literature that I've come across. "A Christmas chorale" and a "tale of two cities". Both good. I also like poetry. Tennyson and burns are some of my favorite. Tennyson's "Idyls of the king" is one of my favorite books. I need to read more myself but there's a few that I would recommend.

  • @bobbylee9727
    @bobbylee9727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The only three books I have read twice are: "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville, "1984" by George Orwell and "Catch-22" by Joseph Heller. If I had one of these three to read for a third time it would be Melville...America's Dostoyefsky.

    • @jonathanfoutz8931
      @jonathanfoutz8931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. IMO, Moby Dick is better than Gatsby.

    • @eattabagovdix7169
      @eattabagovdix7169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tolkien's LOTR/Hobbit, several by Shakespeare and going more modern would be the Harry Potter books. Extraordinary literature

    • @HankBukowski
      @HankBukowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Catch-22 and A Confederacy Of Dunces are the funniest books I've ever read.

    • @eattabagovdix7169
      @eattabagovdix7169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HankBukowski Conf of Dunces isnt THAT funny. I own it and still dont understand why ppl rave about that book.

    • @HankBukowski
      @HankBukowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eattabagovdix7169 You don't understand people?
      Shocking.
      Take it easy, sweetheart. Loved that review from the "I don't get it so it sucks" book club.

  • @derekgreen7319
    @derekgreen7319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great short books to start with
    Of mice and men
    Old man and the sea
    Chronicle of a death foretold
    Animal farm
    Heart of darkness
    Picture of Dorian grey

    • @strawman6085
      @strawman6085 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only follow Derek’s reading list if you wish to lose the will to live.

    • @derekgreen7319
      @derekgreen7319 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@strawman6085 right because you shouldn't read if the book doesn't give you the warm and fuzzies.

    • @derekgreen7319
      @derekgreen7319 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@strawman6085 if that's how you feel about these books then I find it unlikely that you've read all of them.

    • @strawman6085
      @strawman6085 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekgreen7319 I've read Of Mice and Mean, Old Man and the Sea, and Animal Farm. Seen the movie Picture of Dorian Grey, Heart of Darkness. So yeah, I know the stories.

    • @strawman6085
      @strawman6085 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekgreen7319 Because you should only read a book if it's doom and gloom. Maybe you need to lighten up and expand you horizons.

  • @saint_double_k
    @saint_double_k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have the Tolkien version of The Green Knight. It's fantastic.

  • @davidrandell2224
    @davidrandell2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1: “The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon. 2: “The Unique and Its Property “, Max Stirner 1844/2017 Landstreicher translation. 3: “The Bible Came from Arabia “, Kamal Salibi plus his 3 other bible study books. 4: No Treason: the Constitution of No Authority “ 1,2, and 6, Lysander Spooner. That’s it folks!

  • @HappyGeekSquad
    @HappyGeekSquad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am excited to finish these books. I struggle with reading, but I determined to finish these novels

    • @MrPodvig
      @MrPodvig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you want to get better at reading, read. Read anything you like. Just keep at it.

    • @peterbardy1296
      @peterbardy1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrPodvig
      Good advice.

  • @matthewgallant3622
    @matthewgallant3622 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1. The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
    2. Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson
    3. Portrait of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde
    4. The Call of the Wild by Jack London
    5. All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque

  • @josephaseven8461
    @josephaseven8461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Started this reading list today! Some familiar items, some non-familiar items. Looking forward to it all. Thanks Klavan!

  • @alyzak.8997
    @alyzak.8997 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm a muslim and I love all of the books he recommended.

    • @toniam.2080
      @toniam.2080 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too 🙂

    • @justinglauthier1101
      @justinglauthier1101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Lev Mikhov this books are largely Christian influenced and have a different philosophy about certain things than Islam does. Just like as a Catholic I like certain things written by them even though I’m not Muslim.

  • @markusfreund6961
    @markusfreund6961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those are some fantastic recommendations! Without any claim to completeness I'd add comprehensive editions of Greek and Norse/Germanic mythology, respectively, The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, Paradise Lost by John Milton, Moby Dick by Herman Melville, Faust by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche, Winnetou I-III by Karl May, The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1984 by George Orwell and Momo by Michael Ende.

  • @CB-vt3mx
    @CB-vt3mx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Don't bypass Virgil's Aenid on your reading journey. also, if you want to explore the early church, I recommend Augustine.

    • @CB-vt3mx
      @CB-vt3mx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't bother with The Great Gatsby. Frankly, it is not one of the top 10,000 books of US origin. I recommend instead, Bradbury's Farenheit 451 or Huxley's Brave New World to see into the center of the mind of the dystopian paths our culture can take on the road from Damascus to DC.

    • @jjjackson5183
      @jjjackson5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And later, anything by C.S. Lewis.

    • @jjjackson5183
      @jjjackson5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CB-vt3mx Animal Farm.

  • @cherylsahagun2492
    @cherylsahagun2492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m surprised that John Bunyon’s Pilgrims Progress wasn’t recommended, but I think I did hear that short was one of the criteria. It is not s that short, but it is an amazingly good allegory of the Christian life.

    • @onepiecefan74
      @onepiecefan74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Klavan is catholic. Their pretty stingy about non catholic works.

    • @rudyredcat425
      @rudyredcat425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slough of despond. I studied that in University

    • @wmfilms123
      @wmfilms123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onepiecefan74 he’s not catholic

  • @uhm6577
    @uhm6577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes! I love book lists. I need more of these.

  • @timmy18135
    @timmy18135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Western literature
    1. The Republic
    2. Aristotle's metaphysics
    3. Antigone
    4. Jerusalem delivered
    5. The Prince
    6. Devine Comedy
    7. Leviathan
    8. Candide
    9. Federalist papers
    10.war and peace

  • @Smallpotato1965
    @Smallpotato1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favorite authors who is now almost forgotten, alas, is Rumer Godden. She wrote, roughly, between the 1950's and 1980's, and the one 'easy reading' one I'll recommend here is a Fifties one: 'An Episode of Sparrows'. It's sometimes described as a 'children's book', but wrongly, in my mind. It's a book where a couple of children play a leading role, like Twain's Huckleberry Finn, but that doesn't make the story juvenile. The book is set in the early Fifties, in London, where there are still parts which were bombed during WWII. It centers around a couple of streetchildren from an impoverished street and two spinster sisters from the rich street adjacent to it.
    What throws some people off Godden is, what I call, her timeline style. I'm sure there is a name for it (Andrew might know). She will, say, start at the end of the story, go back to the beginning and interweave the rest of the narrative with small flashbacks or leaps into the future. She does this so skillfully that its never jarring and at the end you will have connected all the little dots and feel the richer for it.
    Which makes this book feel difficult. It's not. It's a delightful tale of a hard-as-nails little girl, a restaurant owner with Big Dreams and small pocketbook, a young boy who acts tougher than he is and an old and sick rich lady who never experience Life. And they, and many others, touch eachothers lives, if they know if or not.

  • @lk8856
    @lk8856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful list. Thank you.

  • @patriciahorgan2584
    @patriciahorgan2584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your list - you are a great teacher. I know this is a list of short books - and so most longer novels are not there - but I would include Jane Austin's Persuasion - her best and quite short novel. It was the soldiers in the trenches in WW1 that brought Jane Austen back to the forefront of English Literature. There are no good adaptions - it is the novel that is so great. E M Foster said that Jane Austen was not as great a novelist as the Russians - but the greatest novelist in English literature.

  • @kakarotwolf
    @kakarotwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a lot of admiration and respect for this man 🙏

  • @chrisiswright
    @chrisiswright ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hamlet is not in Old English. Shakespeare wrote in Early Modern English. OE is completely different, almost a different language entirely

  • @sfjsb6334
    @sfjsb6334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The green light at the end of Daisy's dock

  • @MrTValleyguy
    @MrTValleyguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would have put Beowulf in there but good list

  • @eugeniemartin6630
    @eugeniemartin6630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your commentary always delivers!

  • @Pocketrose3
    @Pocketrose3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video!!

  • @philipb7400
    @philipb7400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke and Romans are two of my favorites in the Bible.

  • @SeasideDetective2
    @SeasideDetective2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not sure if I'd call the Bible "Western." It's arguably quasi-Eastern, since only a portion of it is written in Greek; the rest is written in languages that were never spoken in Europe.

    • @bigmonkee639
      @bigmonkee639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but people see it as western only because the west was influenced so much by it

    • @sammygoodnight
      @sammygoodnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Iliad and the Odyssey are not really 'Western' either, by that standard. But "Western" = Greco-Roman classical tradition + Christianity + the Western European cultures.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigmonkee639 Was ancient Egypt Western, then? (Our alphabet ultimately derives from that civilization.) And is India Western, since the numerals we use were first written by Indians? How much "Western influence" must be derived from a culture in order for Westerners to be able to claim it as their own?

    • @bigmonkee639
      @bigmonkee639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SeasideDetective2 that is difficult to answer. I wouldn't say so. But if a whole culture is heavily based off something from somewhere else does that make that work their own in a sense? I don't have an answer to that

  • @unimacuni.
    @unimacuni. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the list Drew. 😍

  • @stephanieellenbogen5570
    @stephanieellenbogen5570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this was so great!

  • @andrewwatson4716
    @andrewwatson4716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any other normal people accidentally watch this when it popped up in their recommendations?

  • @gymjunkie35
    @gymjunkie35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We call the NIV the “nearly inspired version”, NASB is the way to go.

    • @kimmeeb
      @kimmeeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My congregation uses the NASB. I personally prefer the ESV; still pretty accurate, I just find it easier to read and understand, and it's the version I usually recommend to people. It's also easier to find in bookstores in my experience 😂

    • @jerryshunk7152
      @jerryshunk7152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean NWT don't you?

  • @christianebers
    @christianebers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been needing to redo my reading list and book collection to be more imminently awesome! Thanks

  • @mikethemonsta15
    @mikethemonsta15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Andrew's list
    Gospel of Luke NIV/KJV
    Apology - Plato translated by GMA Grube
    Antigone - Sophocles
    Metamorphoses (Chapter 4) - Ovid translated by Alan Mandelbrot
    The Lives of the Twelve Caesars (Chapter on Caligula)
    Sir Gawain and the Green Knight - Tolkien
    Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
    The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
    The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald

  • @philipdcrump
    @philipdcrump 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great list Andrew.

  • @ginov.7039
    @ginov.7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome synopsis of great literature thank you

  • @williamgiovinazzo8523
    @williamgiovinazzo8523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He makes a good point, start out with a select few that you can handle and then build from there. If I have been asked to compose such a list, I would not have selected the books he listed, but after listening to him I think his list is better than anything I might have come up with.
    Good list of books.

  • @natesmith4050
    @natesmith4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Andrew 👍🏻

  • @Moses-mm2yk
    @Moses-mm2yk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally went out and bought all of these. Besides Huck, already have it.

  • @katie7674
    @katie7674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "...and I said to my son Spencer (no relation)..." 😂

  • @patricksullivan4329
    @patricksullivan4329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First of all, I'd suggest everyone read Thomas Sowell's magnum opus, 'Knowledge and Decisions', because it will teach you how to think (as opposed to what to think). Then read nine of Shakespeare's plays and/or poems; which will give you the wisdom of the Bible, Plato, Ovid, Dante, Chaucer and most of the books on Andrew Klavan's list.

  • @praline4157
    @praline4157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this. This is the kind of content I hoped would proliferate on the internet.

  • @theproceedings4050
    @theproceedings4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lord, I shudder to think that some consider The Great Gatsby to be the greatest American literature. I've read it three times and wish I hadn't even once.

    • @robertdiffin9136
      @robertdiffin9136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to think the same, and then, as an adult I took a college literature course and fell in love with it as a wonderful professor revealed its genius.

    • @sammygoodnight
      @sammygoodnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gatsby's not bad, but I agree it's certainly nowhere near the best American novel.

    • @JoseMora-wc5zz
      @JoseMora-wc5zz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertdiffin9136could you explain what was it’s importance? I’m about to buy it, I’m interested in learning more about its importance to American Literature.

  • @isurfox4129
    @isurfox4129 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Segment, keep it up, we need you

  • @Joombajuice
    @Joombajuice หลายเดือนก่อน

    Read crime and punishment with only maybe 12 books under my belt and I loved it! It’s still my favorite book ever. I think about it everyday!

  • @JoseVelazquez-su5nm
    @JoseVelazquez-su5nm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interested to hear what Andrew thinks about the new adaptation of "The Green Knight" with Dev Patel.

  • @MrsPPNC
    @MrsPPNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this book list 👍

  • @butterflygirl141
    @butterflygirl141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Librarians and independent booksellers have great recommendations as well, for anyone looking for classics.

  • @greygorygaming
    @greygorygaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @josephanton2059
    @josephanton2059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Conrad was very sympathetic to man. Lord Jim is my favourite Conrad book

  • @jeffpalmer6076
    @jeffpalmer6076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. ARISTOTLE ETHICS
    2. ATLAS SHRUGGED
    3. FOUNTAINHEAD
    4. ROAD TO SERFDOM
    5. ANYTHING ORWELL
    6. ANYTHING SHAKESPEARE
    7. BRAVE NEW WORLD
    8. BEOWULF
    9. GULAG ARCHIPELAGO
    10. ANYTHING CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS

  • @boatdetective
    @boatdetective 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a WONDERFUL scope for a vid. Thank you so much!

  • @meggy8868
    @meggy8868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lecture.

  • @kwall1464
    @kwall1464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the list, those are some great suggestions.
    I’m one of those people who hates reading but I want to, want to, read. I recently read Crime and Punishment and Frankenstein, then I understood why they’re such classics , it’s worth the time and effort to read either of them.
    Something I found helpful was a podcast that was also a sort of book club. The woman read two chapters, summarized those two chapters and then had a commentary on those chapters, then repeats that all again. She also had an online Facebook discussion going on (I did not participate in the discussion part). That might be a good way to get through some of those more difficult books. The woman who I listened to was Lisa VanDamme, she’s done this with a bunch of books, you can find her wherever you get you podcasts.

    • @TheBridget272
      @TheBridget272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love Frankenstein! I haven't tackled C&P yet. Have you tried Jane Eyre? It's my favorite book of all time.

    • @kwall1464
      @kwall1464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBridget272 I never read the novel but I did see the play and really liked it! Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @JimPfaff
    @JimPfaff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Andrew. Why must I clarify anything in this excellent list you've put together? But clarify I must.
    1) The Great Gatsby is obviously the second best American novel. I know you painfully agave that credit to Fitzgerald against your better judgment. I understand why you didn't include the greatest American novel since it is long and hard for some to approach.
    2) the greatest American novel is obviously Herman Melville's Moby Dick. And though it's often not approachable for those wanting to take their first serious dip into the beautiful pool of western literature it does embody many of the various touch points you're rightly leading people to take in.
    3) I'm very impressed by your choice of Heart of Darkness. Many would not place it in a list like this, and they should. Tsk. Tsk, though. You didn't mention that Joseph Conrad has the best English literary pen in the post-enlightenment West, but he accomplished that amazing feat having never spoken or read English until he was 20 years old.

    • @TheBridget272
      @TheBridget272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was going to comment that English was Conrad's third or fourth language! I haven't read Heart of Darkness (but I pretended to in high school) but I was impressed to learn that fact about Conrad and it's stuck with me all these years. I suppose I'll have to read it now...

  • @branrx
    @branrx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Once you feel comfortable with The Apology, you definitely need to read Plato’s Republic

  • @user-ks5cg5cd7m
    @user-ks5cg5cd7m 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A reachable version of Homer’s epic is Rosemary Sutcliff’s Black Ships before Troy and The Adventures of Odysseus. I listened with my kids. It is a great middle school / high school listen / read. I liked it as an adult. Very well written. Also, the Book of the Ancient Romans by Dorothy Mills is a book that we are enjoying in our house this year. These are easy to read but adults get a lot more from it than kids,

  • @kimberly5411
    @kimberly5411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am so grateful for this list. I love literature but have never delved anything prior to the 1700’s. Since hearing this, I am about to finish Antigone. It is just as wonderful as you said, and I will be seeking out many of the others. Thanks so much!

  • @romanempire4495
    @romanempire4495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Bible and the Illiad are the two most important things put to paper.