The 30-30 Winchester & Marlin Deer Rifles ~ American Classics for 120 Years
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- GunBlue talks about the 30-30 Winchester and explains how it has been terribly misunderstood and misrepresented by gun writers, who have made unfair assessments about a cartridge that is almost perfectly suited to the needs of the American whitetail hunter. See why it's the ideal companion as a reliable and easy packing woods rifle, and the perfect 100 yard deer cartridge that has brought home the venison reliably for American hunters for 120 years. Learn about the Model 94 Winchester, 336 Marlin, and the 32 Winchester Special.
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Millions upon millions of 30-30 caliber rifles sold and used speaks louder than any "gun writer's" opinion. Thank you for a great lesson here.
I grew up in Wyoming and have hunted since I was 10. I have been a gun nut, handloader, guide and packer. I have owned and loaded for a lot of cartridges, and guided hunters from all over the country. I would rather see a hunter show up with a 94 in 30-30 that looks well used, than a 300 Weatherby that is brand new. Elk, moose, black bears, sheep and even grizzlies, are easily killed, if you hit them in the right place. Most shots I took and watched others take, were less than 150 yards. People showing up with magnum cartridges and taking shots at game over 350 yards, piss me off. That is not hunting. If an arrow at less than 200 fps can kill an elk, so can a 30-30.
mikewyd53 I agree with you 100 pct
Thanks, You Told it like It Is...
I agree with that completely I don't live in Wyoming but I grew up in California hunting in the Sierra Nevada mountains where it's pretty heavily wooded in some areas and now I live in Oklahoma where it's really heavily wooded and I hunt with my 3030 over almost any rifle I have simply because it packs enough punch with 170 grain bullet to still kill a deer through thick brush my friend brought an AR-15 once a few years ago and when he took a shot at a buck through some thick brush that little 22 bullet head pinged off a branch and that buck was gone unscathed and he was all about his AR-15 I told him not to bring it cuz the bullets Ain't Heavy enough for where were hunting he was used to hunting on his dad's farmland about an hour drive away and it's all open field and I'll admit open field or clear view of Target an AR-15 can do well at but not in the woods and if we ever go hunting in the woods now he brings a 30 ought 6 but I've taken over two dozen deer with my 3030 and I love my 3030 I hand load the Hornady 160 grain Flex tips like he was talking about in the video and they're pretty devastating but I shoot them a little hot if I'm deer hunting if I'm just target shooting I cast some flat news 160 grain bullets I haven't been hand loading for very long but I can honestly say I'm glad I started because now I can shoot three times the amount over just going and buying conventional ammo I'm just glad that the range not far from the house collects and sells brass cuz I reload for my 45 ACP and my 30-30 I also cast my own ammo to save more for more powder and I already want to buy and I already want to buy a progressive three stage press because I like the single stage Lee Challenger press I have and I use the new I guess custom series Hornady dies those actually work pretty well Bryant Realty completely do something about the high-power rifle shooters I have a half-dozen friends that have a real big bore rifles like that and they all are not as good as they think they are what's the exception of one of my friends who is a retired Marine he's got a $1,500 scope on a Savage 338 Lapua magnum rifle and I have personally witnessed him hitting paper plate targets at a mile off of his land in South Oklahoma but he used to you he is a 50 BMG sniper rifle and he was in service and he knows how to operate a rifle like no other person I've ever witnessed with a gun in their hands but he is definitely a minority when it comes to the rest of the long-distance shooter guys that I've ever met even let me let's have the same shot after I see him hit that paper plate that far off and I missed by a good 10 or 15 yards right after I tried to hit the target he took his rifle back and he nailed the damn thing again lol
I would have never thought that. Usually when I see dudes killing elk, it’s the way you don’t like. I’m on the east coast and while they have elk in NC, you can’t hunt them there yet. That said, I think of dudes shooting stuff that makes .308 and .270 look barely adequate, at about 400ish yards or more. I’m guessing that depends on the terrain. If I ever wind up being able to hunt elk, I could potentially save a good amount of money with this information.
@@MrRdvs87 The 270 is certainly not barely adequate for elk. It's a very big stick in a little bundle that has routinely taken elk since it was introduced over nine decades ago. Countless magnificent elk and other game are lost wastefully to slobs that shoot at elk 300 yards away with cartridges they can't manage. Ironically, good shots who are capable at long range are inclined to use light recoiling guns and take the time to move in for a clean shot, because they are sportsmen, and enjoy the hunt and seeing game in close, and they don't reduce hunting to target shooting. It's typically the poor and unpracticed shot who buys heavy calibers, imagining that it will magically license him to take 400 yard potshots.
I loved when you talk about that one box of shells that lasted 20 years. I thought I was the only guy that did that.
I bought 2 boxes of some cheap federal ammo 17 years ago and my marlin 336c. I still have both boxes tho one box has only a few years of life left.
Only takes one shot ,,, if a person can shoot !
I knew an old timer that had boxes 12 gauge ammunition for probably close to 30 years just used a few when he needed it
Ammo is not cheap anymore either! There’s no reason to shoot all your ammo off. If you want to practice… Use one of the modern high speed pellet guns. Shooting at a dime sized target at 30 yards with a pellet gun is the same thing as shooting at a deer size target at 150 yards with a 3030. Save your ammo for what it was meant for!
I grew up running a Marlin 1894c in 44 Mag for deer. I did that for over 40 years until I handed the rifle down to my oldest son a few years back. My dad has been an avid reloader since the '60s and every round I took deer with was done with his handloads. And I'm talking he casts his own bullets too. I never bought a box of commercial 44 Mag ammo until I handed the gun down. I still have some of my dad's handloads from the early '80s and it still shoots very accurately. To feed my desire for lever guns I've now bought a few Henry models over the last few years - a 357 Big Boy and a 45-70 Golden Boy. My dad is a lever fan, too, and has a few older Winchesters and Savages and also has a few Marlins of newer heritage.
Winchester 94 is one of the most beautiful firearms ever made...
With eyes like that you cant see savage 99 is better
i agree.
holleyman1970
The BLR is a much better proposition, its action is smooth, cycles like a work art and not agricultural other lever actions. I am guessing you never used or owned one. I have the Winchester 94 and a 336 Marlin. Nice nostalgic rifles but cannot compare to Japanese manufacture and excellence in wonderful high power calibres 👍
I agree to bad they don’t shoot as well as the Marlin
@@jeffestrada6857 well my win 94 deluxe was made in the same place that your browning by miroku so... 😜
The Win 94 30-30 is a classic. When working in gun shops I probably sold around 20 of them. I sold about 8 of them to an Alaskan Native family that gave them away at a Potlatch (a celebration of life 1 year after someone died). I can tell you the Natives hunt Moose and Bear with this rifle. I had never owned one. However, many years later I bought one (1956) from a dealer friend in Maine. I still have it and would never sell it. What a beautiful rifle.
180 yards aiming two inches above where I wanted the bullet to go, Buck dropped with one shot! My 1894 Winchester is amazing! I sold all my other rifles (30.06, 7mm rem, .270) as the 1894 is light, accurate, powerful and fits my hand better than any rifle I have ever held. The finest rifle designed and made!
Those who discount the lever action and it 30/30 ballistics haven't spent time with it nor depended on it for sustenance. Thank you
Thanks for an informative chat about the rifle and cartridge. I enjoyed it and will seek out more of your videos. Nice to see old school gun talk that doesn't need the tacticool b.s. attached to it. Just plain old common sense is very refreshing.
Amen to that!
My uncle owns an old nickel steel 94! Not much finish left, its beautiful that way with the white steel showing through from long companionship! He's not really able to shot it anymore in his years now, but its still a love of his! That and His old 68 Bronco, they both went with his younger self out to the ridges and hills around NW New Mexico, getting mulies, until he later got a Sears Springfield basket-weave 30-06 as his go-to for deer and elk.
Thanks for your work Gunblue and God Bless!
Thanks! The 30/30 was/is always popular in the far north. Many animals have fallen to it, and still do today.
Youre a good man. Fine New England stock I suspect. I'm glad I found this channel. Your videos offer a rare glimpse into a tradition of Freedom. Keep the faith!
Terry Dean Really good videos. Terrific insights and broad historical perspective.😊
GunBlue490: the perfect antidote to tacticool conventional wisdom (such as it is). Thank you, sir.
"Minute of Deer" - love it! I have a model 94 30/30 and agree with everything you've said. Great vid as usual.
Darren asquith I agree (and grinned at that phrase as well). GunBlue490 certainly has an incredible way with words - a fine teacher and fascinating raconteur.
As a new aspiring hunter at the age of 21, your knowledge and wisdom is priceless! Thank you GunBlue :)
In the early 60s every house in the country had a lever action standing up in the closet (and a bolt action over the mantle) and they had no scopes and yes its true they had ammo in aged boxes on a tool shelf in the garage, usually next to a jar of nails or screws. They took the rifle and a box of old ammo hunting and they came back with the rifle, the old ammo box and the deer in tow because they only needed one or two shots --- one for the deer they spooked when they missed, and one they downed the next deer with. Then the ammo back on the tool shelf and the rifle back in the closet. They also walked around the neighborhoods with the rifle and nobody cared. This changed with the devastating 1968 Gun Control Act which came about as the result of the national riots against the war. Also, when the lever action originally came out, shooters completed their tasks in 50-100yds. This whole thing of scopes and long range is a recent construct and has no relationship to the purpose of the rifle. So I agree with the video very much. Recently lever actions are having another comeback and im glad to see it! Nothing says "america" more than a lever action and i hope everyone buys one. Its a staple!
Back in the late '50s when I was in high school I watched a fellow take down a large bull elk using a Model '94 Rifle with a long octagon barrel. Head shot from 75 yards with the elk at a dead run. It was his grandfather's old 30-30, and it was apparent this fellow knew that gun! I was intrigued by that demonstration of skill, in 1961 I bought my own Model 94 at an estate auction. Since that day it has been my go to rifle. Over the years it has successfully taken Mule Deer, Pronghorn and Elk! Some out to 200 yards, most 100 or less. Over the years I mastered the gun, maybe not to the point of the previous mentioned shooter, but I can hit a beer can at 100 yards pretty consistently. The thing I love about the gun is when I shoulder it and lay my cheek against the stock both front and rear sight are aligned with my right eye. I never have to adjust. Whether it works that way for anyone else, I have no idea.
yes sir my marlin 336 is same way !
Yeah I use a 94 in 44 Magnum for deer when I'm hunting in the hardwoods and swamps because it's light and it points so good. It's really easy to get on target and super accurate.
@@wagstag89 Yes, that easy on target is exactly why my '94 is and has been my "Go to" rifle for the past 60 years.
Most of the twenty or so deer (PA whitetails) that I've killed over the years have fallen to a 30-30 Marlin. I always preferred the 170 grain Remington Core-Lokt shell as they always put the deer down quickly and did not give me much blood-shot meat. Probably 25 - 30 years ago I was hunting with my brother-in-law and we both got our bucks. He shot a 30-06 and I had my 30-30. Both animals were front shoulder shots and we did our own butchering back then. It always stuck in my memory the much larger amount of blood-shot meat that the 30-06 created over my little 30-30. Since then I've always said "The 30-30 is really neat; it kills em dead and you get more to eat".
I like that.
The 30-30 is what it always was a plain old reliable cartridge. No bells and whistles, no worrying about ballistic coefficients, just a good reliable round in a smooth shootable platform.
There is a soft spot in my heart for lever action rifles (I grew up watching westerns), just look at my collection. One of my favorites is a pre 64 Winchester model 94 that is in immaculate condition. The prices have changed but the wood on the old ones and the impeccable bluing is hard to match.
Dad's 1973 Glenfield Marlin, with original Remington scope, bought at JCPenney. Had it worked on to get it looking good. After all these years, it was easy to zero and fires like a dream!
Always good to hear unbiased opinions from people who aren't salesmen ..... factual, honest and informative information and love the history. Keep up the great work and look forward to your next.
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Thanks for putting into words what some of us lever action shooters have known and accepted for a long time. Only it never felt like a limitation if you were shooting in thick timber where, as you described, it's almost like pointing at the deer. Long live the lever actions and long live the 30 WCF or 30-30.
Recently bought a Winchester model 1894 manufactured in 1962 for my first gun purchased with my own hard earned money. Picked it up at an auction because I couldn’t find any lever guns at the pawn shops Around town. I looked all over the internet and called friends I was down on my luck until I saw this pristine specimen at a local auction, it’s beautiful! Someone loved and took very good care of my rifle. It’s unbelievably fun to shoot, has plenty of knock down power and will suit my purpose of a home defense rifle and good ol fun Haver. Too bad everyone is hording ammo so I can’t find any whatsoever. I ended up buying some ammo online for 2 bucks a cartridge. I’ve barely put 30 rounds through the rifle so far. Hopefully I can get a decent ammo supply because I love to rack rounds through this piece of American history. This gun lasted someone most of their life and it will last me most of mine. Thanks for the history lesson. 👍
Common sense hunting, nice change of pace! Could listen to you all day. I use a 30-30 and love it. I know what it will do.
I appreciate your videos. I always find them informative. Thank you for your time.
Thanks for your strong endorsement of the 30-30. I grew up in the 50s and the m94 was the standard hunting rifle and was featured prominently on the mantle for home defense.
i have a 1958 model 94 30-30. still works like new.a great firearm.and the new ammo makes ot even better......
M C It really does I have a 69 Model 94 and that Hornady round really makes my Winchester shine it loves it accurate at 100 yards 👌
Blue, another great video. A breath of fresh air compared to others.
Just watching this great video again. I have since this video was released purchased a used Marlin 336 late "JM" build in 30-30. I brought it home and gave it a go. I was impressed and decided to give it some love. I stripped it right down... took everything apart, cleaned it (easy to do with a Marlin) and also refinished the stock and forearm. I liked playing around with this rifle and because of my old eyes decided to put a quality scope on it. It shoots 1.25 groups at 100 off the bench with cheap ammo. My Ruger M77 shoots better groups, but I pay a lot more for the ammo. Further, this 335 shoots great off hand which is more my style. Most of my friends beat me at bench shooting but they can't touch me with this 336 (I bought cheap) in an off hand match. I am done with theory, I now focus on what works for me, I am just looking at my results, and I get good results with this 30-30 rifle, I have a lot of confidence in this 30-30!
The Winchester Legacy 94 - 30/30 @ 170 gr. is the ultimate NE white tail deer gun. The deer will drop with a clean shot, no need to look for it. Saw this gun in a mom and pop gun store in the middle of nowhere. 24" iron sights, elegant, light weight, & feels great in the hands. They need to bring this lever action rifle back to America so that the next generation can have this beautiful and functional weapon. Winchester 94 is a usable piece of Art.
When I was 15 in 1970 I begged my dad for a Marlin 30/30 for Christmas. He said no! Guess what he put under the tree for that morning. Still have it to this day. It cost a whopping $79,95. Even came with a branded K Mart scope. LOL
Years ago I had a buddy that couldn't get away hunting. but I went quite often with my Friends, he used to say to me every trip take my 30-30 Winny with you, see how you like it, I took his rifle for years never using it once, he was getting upset after about 10 years, why I at least didn't even fire the rifle, I said I have my Weatherby magnums I don't need a 30-30. He was even more upset because, could I at least give it a try. Ok ok the next trip I won't even take my rifles, I will just use your 30-30 only that's it. This was not a very good experience I was thinking. I thought I would try a shot at a knot in the tree across the river see if it would be any where near the spot I was aiming at, I wasn't expecting very much, I was surprised. it hit the spot right on the button, I thought I would try again just to see if it was a fluke, it wasn't, it hit exactly the same spot. I was Impressed, I had one of the best trips using that rifle, I shot more Pigs than I ever shot before, and a lot less recoil into the bargain, my buddy had trouble getting his rifle back after that trip.
Harry Brown Great story bro 👍🏼
Just an update with things 30-30, If anyone is Interested. I was lucky to come across a Winchester M 94 1949 year rifle. I bought it yesterday, In my Country, things are not like the USA Unfortunately, with regards to finding what you want. You have to be extremely patient, in obtaining certain rifles, that you can only dream of owning, the chance of finding a Pre 64 Model is slim at best, any way I was lucky this time.
I got lucky. I found and bought a 1970 bar semi auto rifle. 270 winchester. I traded my stevens 22-250 + 200$ for a 270 browning bar , 1970 made in belgium. Very sweet rifle. I live in canada on a reserve and im on welfare so its very hard for me to afford rifles of any kind. I got lucky with this one. Its a keeper and i will clean it out and degrease the gun. It qorked perfectly 20 years ago when i was last fired. Its just been sitting for 20 years and i got it now. I feel lucky.
When I was a teenager I saved and saved for a 3030.i bought it at a local tg&y store. Before I could ever hunt with it iwas told it was junk no good ,I was talked into rems big 7.the 7 is a magnificent cartridge .but I'm sad that I never shot even a rabbit with it .I know that some of these older calibers are really great.the 257 Roberts ,7x57,8x57etc.mypersonal longest shot on a elk was with a lowly 8x57 Yugoslavian Mauser picked up for 118dollars.i did some work to that rifle but it was very inexpensive not cheap.ive always regretted getting rid of that rifle.back to the point those old caliber rifles will get the job done Everytime if you do your part.thanks for posting excellent video
Loved the video and love my Marlin 336 30-30. I have several types and its hands down my favorite rifle.
The most well built gun from way back up to about 2000 anything after is fast built on a production line of about 30 minutes of rifle when the Marlin 336 was made in 70s 80s 90s up to 2000 they took many days to build one rifle and used high-grade tempered metal not like the garbage today you tell me the rest of the story
I love my marlin 336c. I don’t know where people get the idea you can’t hit anything with the 30-30. Ive plinked metal plates at 150-200 yards with mine and I’m just using the factory sights. Just sounds like gripes from people who can’t shoot
Sean Ortiz
You are correct. Most snickering about the 30-30 and 32 Special comes from either folks who never actually used one, who absorb what they hear, and from gun writers who are promoting other cartridges or never even used one themselves. It remains and always will be a perfectly fine whitetail deer and black bear round.
Yes yes yes they are dummy's for knocking that gun very very very accurate and will kill almost anything elk, bear, deer, pigs, moose ,I have killed all that I just mentioned and I did it about 125 yards out drop everything one shot you think about it in the wild wild west days how did they take the Buffalo down with a 30-30 it put food on the table every time that gun went out it took a buffalo down and there was food to eat the same day and hides to use
For my annual walk in the dense woods of New England I carry my 336 with peep sights. Thank you for another great common sense video.
Like this man says I like the 3030. There have been more deer taken with a 3030 than any other rifle around I would bet. And it fits good on my saddle in it's scabbard. Fits up close to my horse when in the woods. Not big & bulky. People always say it's an old timers gun & it don't have the distance of a 300, 308 or 30.06. Well I am an old timer & I would safely say that 90 % of all dear taken are within 100 yards or less. You hear people say well I take dear down all the time at 800 + yards. BS. There are very few people that can see anything at 800+ yards let alone take it down. Just a lot of BS talk & that is exactly what it is, talk. Yes there are people today that shoot long range but it is not a big percentage of shooters & they work at it all the time. They are not your average hunter. And most of them are on bi pods or benches, etc specializing in what type of shooting they are shooting. If it was as easy as Hollywood makes it look, everyone would be doing it. Each gun is built for a reason & not everyone can use them to there full potential. I would really like to see someone throw a Sharp 50 cal up on their shoulder & with iron sites hit a bucket a mile away like in Quigley Down Under. Enjoy what ever it is you shoot & quit making it so complicated with all of today's hype & BS.
Eddie Hubbard
You hit the nail on the head. You have surely seen instances where a person could not even see a deer standing around at a mere 150 yards away in open plains country. I've seen this on many occasions...
"See that rock about 150 yards?" "I think so." "The deer is 3 o'clock from it, see??" "Nope, You mean that brush?" "No, the 12 point buck that's right in front of the brush... see it?" "No, I don't see any deer." And he's using a pair of $1,200 binoculars, while the guide is using his naked eyes, of course.
LOL, you are right. Heck I have trouble these days even seeing a deer in the woods with my old wore out eyes. My wife see them all the time & I just plain ole can't see them so I let her spot them & I do the rest. It does help though from the back of my horse since I am looking downward. Still always what I call short distance shooting, it sure ain't no 600 to 800 yards away. These days it's closer to 50 yards or so. Great videos cause you tell it like it is. Keep up the good work. Cause in today's times us old timers don't know anything, we are out dated & way behind the times, lol. You know these younger generations think they are so much smarter than us old men cause they can read all the internet hype, play video games & have all the new technology. But we durn sure got them by experience which is worth a whole lot more in my book. We hunt to provide not for a trophy. Yes we may brag a bit on a shot we made but at least it's realistic
In the woods of northern NH where I use to hunt my Marlin 30-30 was more than enough gun. A 100 yard shot would be unlikely, more like 50 - 75 yards. There was always someone at the lodge bragging on their 270 or 30-06 with a high powered scope, nice guns but rather pointless for the area we hunted.
Area has a lot to do with it. I hunt Southern California and we have to take deer at 200-500 yards. Average about 300. I myself personally won’t shoot outside of 400 in fear of not making a clean kill but it’s very hard in SoCal but if I lived in TX or Colorado Wyoming or any big population states I would shoot the hell out of my Winchester 94. Light recoil light weight peck yeah
AMEN!!
I luv my 30-30, here in Quebec for a long time that was the favorite gun Marlin and Winchester, even for Moose hunting considering they approach the animal 50 yds and had the proper bullets !
Thanks for the history, very interesting and informative. I just pulled my 15 year old Marlin 30-30 out of my safe to oil it down. I have never fired it yet.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge on 30-30s. You are a treasure.
You are a very clear and good speaker, great job. I own 1980's JM 336 30-30 and a 1926 94 SRC in 32win-spl, love both and hearing about my guns was very helpful, thanks!! BTW, I could listen to your clear expertise and knowledge for hours. Nice speaking voice, and you kept it very interesting & realistic as per the qualifications of these caliber/bullets. I just watched a u-tube on a fellow that got a black bear with his grampu's 30-30 94. Thanks for sharing your passion.
I love your no-nonsense outlook sir, great videos! Thanks!
"Minute of Deer" I love it! I have an older Marlin 336 that has served me well and continues to do so. Thanks for the great video. Take good care.
Right before Winchester closed down my dad called me and said, I can’t find a 94 anywhere, see what you can do.
The internet price was $479. I found one in Redding Ca. The shop wanted $650.
I said, the internet price is $479. He says, I have two left, do you want it or not?
I bought it, cooled off and picked it up 10 days later.
Dad is gone but the 94 is in the safe. It has special meaning to me.
Dad used to hunt with his 94 in the 40’s to bring home meat for his mom.
Dear Sir, over the past 50 years I have enjoyed shooting quite a few firearms. The older I get, the more I like going back to the basics, and my humble model 94 in 30-30 is certainly a favourite.
Thank you for your terrific input. All the best from Australia
Totally enjoyed this video, could listen to you talk all day about guns, thanks sir for a fine effort on this video!
Thanks, Professor. you are the best!
I liked the video preemptively because i know im going to enjoy this. Thanks for your hard work on these videos. I just love cartridge history videos.
This year is 125th anniversary of the 94. I took my favorite 94 out and scored two opening day. Both never took another step. Ftx hand loads. But I disagree onthe 150. They shoot better than a 170 and I’ve never ever just wounded a deer, nor have I destroyed any meat. I scoped my favorite 94 because my eyes are not as sharp anymore and our woods needs that precision. I have other rifles I use but none come close to the feeling of bringing home venison with a lever gun. I also took a coyote with a short 94 Trapper saddle ring model in 44 mag. 94 yds with a Williams peep sight. Who said lever guns can’t shoot?!
Always awesome videos
Such a wealth of knowledge
Thank you
My Marlin 336 .30-30 JM made in1972 is my deer hunting rifle. No scope or sling. The sights were true so no need to mess with them. A box of cartridges last me for years & years….
This man knows his stuff, great video thanks for the information.
Excellent content..
I am a huge 30-30 fan!!
Just bought my third 30-30, and I still love it. First was a Marlin 336, then a Mossberg 464, and now a Henry H009B. These are sweet rifles, and do the job while looking great.
Thanks for you point at 1:00. It helps to disprove the constant rhetoric that things were easier back then.
The 30:30 is,and was, perfect for whitetail deer and used as a tool, rather than like many of today’s rifles that are simply used by tools.
I remember seeing a billboard in 1964 that said FORD MUSTANG $1995.
I remember seeing the first load of those Mustangs being dropped off two trucks at the local Ford dealer when I was delivering newspapers that bought my first rifle! Good grief.
Absolutely love this video! Has to be one of the greatest told truths of this gun. Every thing you said is exactly what I heard my Dad and Uncle say as I grew up hunting with them.
Just found your channel and loved this video, thank you for it. My 94 is a prized possesion and will never part with it. I have had great success with 150 grain loadings in both factory and my reloads for all things combined. Guess I have been a lucky exception. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for producing another great video. Gorgeous rifle! Minute of Deer, awesome, sir.
Well said sir and good information. I really enjoy your videos so thanks for making them.
Very sensible advice for someone looking for a good reliable rifle , well done mate
Good to see your nearby rosary. Thanks for your informative videos. I just ran across this one and look forward to watching others. Kind regards from south Louisiana.
Great video! You hit the nail on the head.
I got both of them the Marlin and Winchester in 30-30 and they’re great rifles and fun to shoot.
Thanks! Like always well informed video....thank you for the time you take to makes these videos.
“Minute of deer”! Priceless!
I loved the way you explained How they Hunted back then My Dad bought his win 94 in 1954 for Apx $75.00 NIB , I have & use it today with No Scope on it also,Great Brush gun out to 100 plus yards, My Sons love shooting this rifle of their Grandfather's also etc.
Nice job. Love watching people talk about things like this with experience. I have a 1952 Winchester 30-30 and was wondering about the sight screws on the side. There aren't any. Now I know why. I LOVE this rifle. I also have a 1936 Marlin Model 1936 30-30 with a fluted stock and a fish bellied forearm. In 1937, they took the fluting out of the stock, straitened the forearm and put a "letter" prefix in front of the serial number. Mine has a 3 digit serial number with NO prefix. Both are beautiful rifles. I gotta say though, the engineering is a little more ingenious with the Winchester. I don't dare use the Marlin much. Very rare. The Winchester though, I treat that like a red headed step child and it LOVES it!
GunBlue - One of the best overviews of this very famous and efficient rifle. This rifle and cartridge were generally used by the hunter in short distances. I can remember my uncles doing exactly what you detailed when dear season came. Grab the Winchester, throw a few rounds in their coat pocket and go.
They used to mention that a box of ammo lasted years. If you were a good shot and the deer showed up, you only need one shot.
I only wish I could of had one of theirs. Mine was born in 1977 and works well
Thanks again for presenting this wonderful Winchester in the proper setting. :-)
I bought my 94 back in 1977. Great gun! Nothing like a lever action in my mind!
What a neat video. I just discovered you. I have a 30 30 that I inherited from my Dad years and years ago. It is a great gun for exactly the purposes you mention in this video. And thank you so much because I did learn some new things. Mine is the Marlin 336. I am no gun expert but I have been a shooter for 50+ years. So I guess that makes me that "average" guy who just picks up the gun and takes it out hunting. I look very forward to watching your other videos. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks again for another excellent video!
Thank you for the video. You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate that. My grandparents raised me here in East Texas and my Grandfather and I would go to the "old farm" and set beside an old redoak on top of a steep hill and wait. We took alot of deer off of that hill and he either used his winchester 20 guage with slugs or his old marlin 3030. I used my pump-action 410, sold by Western auto.
This vid really brought back some fond memories, thanks for that. At my first job I worked at the only game inspection station in town so I tagged hundreds of deer over time. I saw all the wounds and heard all of the stories, heard all about the guns and calibers and saw what they could do. I love the 30-30's but power wise, they're nothing special for deer. The more reliable calibers in that day would have started at the 300 Savage, 303 British level or higher. The 30-06 was a killer diller, and anything else approaching that level of power was too. But everyone loved carrying the 30-30 carbines.
Thank You Very Much for the informative video.
Awesome video! Many blessings and thanks for sharing!
I guess my grandfather never read the magazines. LOL. He was born in 1914. He lived in the North Maine woods during some hard times. He had 4 guns his whole life. He had a break action 410, a 22 semi rifle, a 22 semi pistol, and a 30-30 1894 he bought brand new in 1954. He killed hundreds of deer and made sure people didn't starve to death. At one time the only meat available in the local store was deer meat. Those times have sure changed. My Dad's favorite gun to hunt with is the 1894 32 special. He could have bought any gun he wanted, he chose that. I myself am not a hunter any more, but a gun guy just the same.
My favorite cartridge. The Winchester’94 was my first center fire I bought used for $99 dollars in 2002. I now have a cabinet full of nicer and more accurate rifles but as stated, it shoots minute of deer and is my go to rifle. The only time I had to track an animal I hit with it was because I put a bad shot on the doe, not because the round wasn’t capable. I don’t hunt over bean fields or pipelines so 125 yards is a long shot and that round is definitely adequate. Thanks for all of your excellent videos!
Gun blue, thank you for the long gun educational videos. No experience with them at all but I'm learning! From me, thanks for the time
Great video, love the history of the lever action rifle.
Pancho Villa's men used Winchester 94 rifles to great success. Viva Pancho!
Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
When I was growing up, we didn't brag on how far we shot a deer, we bragged on how close we got to the deer. It was part of our "woodsmanship". People kill me, they throw off on the 30-30, yet preach 7.62 x 39! Near same!! Then throw off on the M1 carbine yet 357 is a big killer!
My goal is to restore the culture you knew, which got lost over the last 40 years.
@@GunBlue490 I carried guns to school to go hunting after school, never a problem, lot of us did. I would talk quail hunting with my science teacher at breaks
@@independentthinker8930 And I just heard about a kid who got expelled from school after he chewed a pop-tart into the shape of a gun.
Awesome video. I've got a "JM" stamped Glenfield 30 with the half length tubular magazine. It has a forward mounted scout rail with a reflex sight about 1/3 the way from tip of the the 16 1/4" barrel. It points like a shotgun, and both eyes stay open. The red dot is a bit of an anachronism on a lever gun, but as a tool for sub-100 yard woodland deer hunting, there is little better.
My first and favorite rifle was a Winchester model 94. I saved up for it and bought it when I was old enough to go on my first deer hunt. Great little rifle for all the reasons you mentioned. Something too many forget, most of Winchester's prior lever rifles shot pistol rounds, such as the 44-40. That's the 30/30's true comparison. In 1894, the ballistics were pretty darn good compared to similar rifles shooting the 44-40! No, it wasn't the most powerful cartridge available in 1894. It wasn't intended to be. It was intended to be a significant improvement over similar lever action rifles, while still being easy to carry and quick handling.
Great video - informative and full of old-time common sense wisdom. Thanks for making it.....
Thank you sir and God bless you always 👍🏼
excellent thank for your reply and keep the informative vids coming
Fantastic review. I love the 30-30 and would love to buy a nice one. I was supposed to inherit my grandfathers “Old Winchester”, but it was stolen back in the day. Anyway, thanks again for the history lesson on this incredible piece of American history.
5:52 "Minute of Deer"... Ha ha ha! I got a good laugh out of that! Thank you, GunBlue490!!
I've never heard the factory sight in thing in my life, that's fascinating, thanks!
Very well put. Great video.
Another Informative lesson ! Thanks GB490
I grew up watching my father shoot pop cans at 100 yards open sights with his trusty 336. He never missed. And every time I looked the hole was dead center. Once saw him hit a very small board we saw across a canyon while target practicing. must have been 400 yards. I told him he couldn't do it, I was wrong. I would never underestimate that rifle. He just had his eyes fixed and wants to see if he still has it at 72.
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Boyhood memories are wonderful, especially of the wonders that dads could do, sometimes with a skilled bit of slight of hand.
No slight of hand, just skill. He just shot it so much he could hit it if he could see it. That in combination with a good shooting rifle. I'm a good bench and bipod shooter but still can't match what he could do standing. I enjoy your videos BTW. Just found the channel.
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The 30 30, is a nice cartridge, great for deer and shooting at a can on a Saturday afternoon. It should be respected for it's historical contribution and the meat it put on the table! Thank you for the great videos.
I Truly appreciate all the positive things that you’ve said about The Winchester Model 94,30-30 Sir!!! It was my first rifle when I’d turned 13,& I’d Definitely taken a few bucks with it. I’ve been blessed to keep it as well as my Father’s first one as well as my uncle’s who’d bought a Marlin which is another beautiful rifle. I Truly appreciate the information that you’ve shared with us about how folks just grabbed it outta the closet and a few shells and went out hinting making a box last for many a years!!! That’s what my dad told me his father and uncle’s had done back in the good Ole’Days. Thanks again it was great seeing and hearing your thoughts on this video.
The Marlin 336 in .35 Remington was always a favorite also!
Haaa!!! Nice video. An older gentleman who has probably dropped a lot of deer in his day. Probably grew up with his dad's friends who went hunting every year, and dropped deer with the 30-30. Probably knew his dad's friends who were all vets, maybe some from the Great War. How refreshing to see an older gentleman who knows exactly the limitations of his weapon, probably would out-hunt all the soy boys by a damn sight. Nice video!
hey gunblue, have you ever considered doing a review of the 45-70? just an idea. you do great videos, and you are very credible. I would love to hear your thoughts on the old 45-70
Just purchased a 1973 Marlin 336 for a good price. I got it for the same reasons you stated in this video. I will not be putting a scope on it. Great video!
Very informative video! Thank you sir!