The 30-30 rifle and cartridge is a lot of things, but one thing it is not anymore and that is cheap. I was just in Dunham's sports recently and most of the regular (Federal, Winchester, Remington) 150 and 170 grain bullets are $39.99 per box of 20. I'm 74 years old today and I've used the 30-30 to take most of the deer I've killed over the years and for a large chunk of that time 30-30 ammo was $10.00 per box (+ or - a dollar or two). I still have a box of Sears 30-30 ammo that sold for about $6.00 back in the 60's or 70's. And as far as the rifles, a new Marlin 336 30-30 made by Ruger will set you back $1,200.00 or $1,300.00 dollars. The Winchester model 94 built by Miroku in Japan is running about the same price the last time that I checked. Around this area of northeastern Pennsylvania, a used Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 will run in the $800.00 and up price range. I have one deer rifle left in my gun cabinet and it is a Winchester Model 94 30-30 built in 1992 and it has the cross bolt safety on it, which I have no problem with. In my younger days we hunted deer almost exclusively by "driving" deer with drivers and standers and flankers. Going from woodlot to woodlot, jumping in and out of pickups meant loading and unloading your rifle many times a day. Many a time someone, usually a young hunter, would have an accidental discharge when trying to lever live rounds out of a Winchester 94. Anyway, I liked your presentation and I wholeheartedly agree with you that a good 30-30 will do most anything that you need from a hunting rifle on the homestead.
@@robertslusser6753 Thank you for sharing your experience. Like yourself, I have no problem with the crossbolt safety and prefer the extra layer of safety. I like the transfer bar mechanism on Ruger single actions for the same reason. I wish prices weren't so extravagant, but humans aren't smart enough to realize that by asking for bigger government, they'll be paying for it through inflation. High prices on firearms and ammo is something we'll all have to fight against since they're not going down. Makes me glad I put back all of those handloading components when they were reasonable. Good comment and best wishes.
Here in Canada 30-30 is widely used on all game including black bears,elk, moose , caribou, and even grizzly bears. Modern ammos help too including hornady leverevolution ftx, nosler, buffalo bore and Barnes 190grain. People underestimate it these days but it's a proven caliber. It's sad actually. You just have to know its limits, range and shot placement is key. It's a low key sledgehammer.
I wasn’t a fan of the 30-30 until I bought a Marlin 336. I am absolutely loving this rifle to the point of installing a XS Sights system on it with a picatinny rail. It is my go to rifle for hunting and scouting.
@@AlasBabylon1 Thank you. I'm not looking to be a firearm focused channel, but it is a part of homesteading that deserves addressing. Also, the shooting sports are a passion of mine and I had a 17 year career in a well trained armed position so when the mood strikes me I'll touch on the subject.
That is a really nice 30-30win with that blond wood. I am 64 years old so my first deer I shot was using a very old Marlin 336 in 30-30 made in 1948. I was 12 years old and after that I stopped counting dead deer after 300. For a short time, I used a 30-06 that became my father and my own very worst cartridge rifle we ever used and still to this day I think the 30-06 is a very bad choice of a rifle to buy and from my guiding in Alaska the worst of all is the 30-06. I shot nearly everyone's deer from family to friends they would buy the tag some came hunting in the party and I wacked their deer or buying the tag then tell me we need the meat go get us a deer. Now the Marlin 30-30 hangs on the wall and has not been used in some 10 years. Now I use for Black tail deer - Roosvelt Elk - Yukon Moose - Alaska Brown bear and interior Grizzly - Dall sheep and mountain goat I own these -- Mauser custom 98 300 Wby mag - 300 Wby mag in Weatherby mark 5 with new Pac Nor barrel - Win Model 70 338 win mag - CZ 550 9.3x62 Mauser - AR 10 custom 375 WSM - AR 10 custom 6mm-284 --- AR 10 custom 6.5 -284Norma - Tikka T3 ultra-light 7mm Rem mag - marlin 336 35 Rem then 5 more AR 15s I did in different chamberings. The Weatherby Mark 5 in 300 WBY mag with the new Pac Nor super match 27 inch - fluted - muzzle break on barrel is pretty much set up for allot of kinds of hunting and using a Leupold 6.5x20 power with 30 mm tube I got all covered with this set up. The 7mm Rem Tikka T3 is for long walking, and it is so light it hardly felt to carry but recoil rattles the teeth and eyeballs.
@@LoisLeuven Glad you enjoyed it. One of the best things about the 30-30 may be the number of great hunting stories, like yours, it has given so many people.
I have taken nearly all my East Texas Whitetail with a 170 gr FNSP. My first rife as kid was an old Win 95. But I’ve been a Marlin guy for many years. I’ve had buddies tell me I need this new cartridge or that, but i keep bringing home the venison so why change? 😊
Pretty much everything you said I agree with. True, especially regarding the model 1894 / 94, I do not recommend, as a professional gunsmith, persons disassembling. Good video
@@DavidSanborn-lu1mj Awesome. I love hearing stories like that. Good rifles are made to be put to use and then handed down to someone else who will also put them to use.
Personally I love lever actions, including the 30-30. However, one scenario I was in has happened at least once :) A friend of mine wounded a deer, it was his first time hunting. So we track it and the trail disappears near the water. Then we see the wounded deer swimming across the forest lake. Pointless to shoot it in the water, so we wait until it reaches the opposite shore. By that time it's 300-ish yards. We did fire a number of shots and then proceeded to walk around the lake to that spot. At which point the deer swims again. We walked to that spot again and never found it. Sometimes you do have to make shots a bit farther out, even if the woods in general don't let you see past 100 or 150. Likewise with hunting fields in the Midwest/Northeast. You might think my friend made a poor shot, but he had already killed a deer the day prior. Things happen. I'll still use my 30-30, but I like having other options.
@@languagesource355 That's a good story that can be learned from. Thank you for sharing. We can love our lever actions but still keep longer range tools in the arsenal.
I love the old 30WCF. I’ve got two pre 64 1894’s. My great grandfathers bought new from the Sears catalog in 1917, it’s a24” barreled rifle, and one I found at auction made in 1958 in carbine. The family one is likely done being used and I’m thinking of having it rebuilt by Turnbull to factory new and using it as a display gun with the picture of everyone that has used it to take game.
@@maxmoody3074 Thank you. Walnut is gorgeous as well, but I'm a real sucker for maple stocks. She's not just all looks though. I've been living primitively for around 9 months now with her as my primary carry around and it's held up incredibly well under the varying environmental conditions.
@@TOPGUNMPD08 It's a factory maple stock. Marlin offered them with maple for a few years. I know many people hate the cross bolt safeties, but it has never bothered me personally.
Nice looking gun, Saw that white maple stock version in 44 mag a lot, Got a few dirty thirty s In savage 24.. over 12/ 20 guage. And a remlin 30 30 stainless... just for availability As u say,,,,everywhere I would recommend a bfr in 30 30, Or a t/c encore in 30 30.. The encore is take down backpack able.. With 308/ 30 06 potential if u get accidentally dropped in alaska somewhere. Ammo availability thing.
@@danielravenstar4051 Thank you. Those Savage 24s of yours chambered for 30-30 are a real treasure! Been keeping my eye out for one. It seems a lot of people make much to do over the quality of Marlins immediately after the Remington acquisition, but I believe outside of those couple years, the Remlins are just fine. I also have a 336 that's JM stamped and I feel the Remlin in this video made around 2016?ish is just as good as the older one.
@@WillyK51 The BLR is an awesome rifle. I haven't grabbed one since I already have an autoloader in .308 and bolt actions in other similar power range cartridges. I completely agree with you though, a BLR in .308, 7mm-08 or 6.5 Creedmoor would be a perfect woods rifle for the medium game down here in the south.
Good presentation. I agree with your assessment of the 30-30. Its a great cartridge for the woods. You can get a rifle in different lengths. If you were to get a 16" carbine 30-30, would it be significantly less accurate than a 20" at the woodland distances?
@@blchamblisscscp8476 I wouldn't expect much difference in accuracy at woodland distances between a 16" or 20" barrel. When using iron sights, the longer barrel will give you a little longer sight radius, which can make it easier to be more accurate. Hence why target handgun shooters typically pick longer barrelled pistols over short snubbies. So it's not really that a few inches of barrel drastically changes the ballistics, it's more about the shooter's handling of the different sizes. And of course using a scope or red dot would negate any sight radius differences. But again at woodland distances where whitetail deer are taken or personal defense ranges, I would be perfectly comfortable with either barrel length and choose what feels best for the individual shooter.
LEVERevolution by Hornady changed the game. 46 years ago I bought my son a single shot H&R 30-30. I handloaded for it and pointy bullets will give you a flatter trajectory and more range. Very light loads can be used for small game. Single shot usually only requires neck sizing so cartridges last a long time.
@@kfsrmn For your specific application, I would agree. However I feel that for the vast majority of deer hunters in the woods, taking game at under 100 yards, those bullets are unnecessary. If that's what someone likes and their rifle shoots it well, then they absolutely should use and enjoy them though. Love those old single shots like you describe.
@@easttexan2933 Thank you. Marlin used to offer them from the factory with the maple stock option. I believe the model name is 336C. The C standing for curly maple. I have no idea if Ruger plans to ever offer maple on the new 336s they are making.
I’m on hunt to add a lever action to my stash. Not sure what/who to go with right now. Excellent presentation. Very informative. There’s wisdom in many counselors.
@@bobbrua8758 Thank you. That is the maple stock that came from the factory. Marlin offered it as an option for a few years. Maple used to be more popular back in the day, now all I know of is Winchester offering it from the factory on their Model 70 Super Grade currently. I have 4 rifles with maple stocks and love the contrast between the blond wood and dark blued steel. Hopefully more companies bring that back as an option in the future.
@@tomedwards643 They are beautiful, aren't they? They came from the factory. For a while Marlin had them as a standard option. I believe they were model 336C. The C standing for curly maple.
I will not engage in an argument about what caliber is the best , but lets face it, what kid didn't want to be just like Lucas McCain in rifleman? As for me, I'll be keeping my lever action 92 in 30/30 . I just wish I could afford to feed it on a monthly basis. It's over 1 dollar per round. When I bought my rifle it was .40 cents per round. I'm seriously considering a lever action 22 magnum because most of my hunting now is coyotes and feral hogs. 22 mag is selling between .30-.35 cents in my area.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit ok I wasn't sure if it was a sub model or the 336 ..like the 336 m for maple. That is a gorgeous rifle. I have bought rifles just because of the wood on them lol. That's also how I ended up with 7, 30-06's and 5 300win mags lol along with others
@@lylewalters909 I believe the C might stand for curly maple. Totally understand buying rifles because of their wood. Companies rarely offer maple stocks anymore so I've bought 4 of them when the opportunity presented itself. Winchester does offer maple on their Model 70 Super Grade if you want to go view some rifle porn. I have a couple of those I plan to make a future video about. Nothing wrong with having some 30-06s in the arsenal. It's a little more horsepower than is needed for hunting in my area, but there is no denying how great that cartridge is and if I lived in bear defense country, it would probably be my primary rifle chambering.
@TheBackwoodsHermit My go to and favorite is the model 70. I have almost bought the maple ones several times lol. I just looked at one in 264win mag but the guy wanted 2k for it..nope wasn't born at night lol.
I’ve only shot a .22 rifle. How does the rifle in your video compare to shooting, say, a shotgun? I’m most comfortable with a 9mm pistol, and am definitely not ready for a shotgun. Is a rifle somewhere in between the two?
@@miscellaneousme Any centerfire rifle is gonna be a big step up in power from the .22 you shot. What cartridge you choose a rifle chambered in is gonna make the biggest difference on how hard it recoils against your shoulder. The next step up in power is usually the 5.56/.223rem cartridge that you commonly find in AR-15s. If the AR aesthetic isn't to your liking, the Ruger Mini 14 (which is also semiautomatic) and some bolt action rifles are also chambered in that cartridge. The next step up in power from there is either the .243 winchester cartridge which is commonly chambered in bolt action rifles or the 30-30 shown in this video chambered in lever actions. If all you've experienced is a .22 rifle, it would be worth renting something from a range chambered in 5.56/.223 to see how that feels for you before jumping up to the next step. The .243win and 30-30 class of power is usually the minimum required by law for deer hunting, depending on each state. The 3 most common shotgun chamberings are in order of power: .410 the lightest, then 20 gauge and then 12 gauge being most powerful. Recoil wise, I feel .410 falls in between 5.56/.223rem and the .243/30-30 class. 20 gauge is more stout than .243/30-30 and 12 gauge is much more stout. In general, I would rank the power of the most common rifle and shotgun cartridges as following from lightest to hardest kicking: .22 rifle 5.56/.223rem rifle .410 shotgun .243win bolt rifle 30-30 lever rifle 20 gauge shotgun 12 gauge shotgun and a bunch of rifle chamberings. If you like the lever action style of the rifle in this video, they also make lever action .22s, which are the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Check out Henry Arms for a huge, affordable selection of those. Hope this helps answer your questions and feel free to ask more if you need further clarification. Before moving south last year, my previous 17 year career was firearms focused and I love to help newer shooters.
One of the most popular do it all cartridge for newbies, is the 243 win.A for ever cartridge is the 7-08,It's the 243 necked up to 7MM. If you like a Lever, get a Browning BLR in 7-08, Light, sleek and fast. Shotgun, get 20 Ga. Target loads are light, as you get used, Hunting loads do the same as 12 Ga.
@@TheBackwoodsHermitYou are 100% correct that a 22 lever is about the most fun you can have with clothes on. I was able to score a Henry Golden Boy for under $300 a year or so ago and just have a blast with it.
@@TonyaLeibach-e8z Nothing is cheap anymore. .30-30 is still comparable in price to the other proven, classic centerfire rifle cartridges like .308Win or .243Win though. And noticeably cheaper than the newer ones being marketed as made of magic.
Got four 444 marlins, One is the bfr, Making a custom holster for it, Being the big honking thing that is gonna be. Lots of real estate on the back side , For a take down t/c encore With extra barrels, Grab one package and go kinda thing
@@Perry2186 Love me some 35Rem as well, but outside of us handloaders, they are difficult to keep fed for the average shooter. Excellent cartridge though.
Slim you missed a important point in your video.I have a model 94 win but you should have mentioned that the marlin with side ejection is a lot easier to mount a scope on and Henry and Rossi both make good lever 3030s.But I have to say that one your holding is the prettiest one I've ever seen it must be a deluxe model nice lookin gun
@@chub4141 Thank you. I also love the look of the maple stock. You're right that I should've mentioned the side ejection and scopability of the Marlin. Good points.
If you only need to shoot 50-100 yards go ahead a use the 30-30. Out west where shots typically can be out to 500-600 yards the 30-30 is useless. Maybe good for a door stop.
That was a good no-nonsense presentation of the 30-30 and the Marlin. Well done!
@@jimbetzing3587 Thank you for that. Glad you enjoyed it.
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My sediments exactly.
hornaday flex tip baby, had bought mine in 1981, 336 marlin with 4 power scope and rings for open sights on the run
@@user-lo6cf3df1x That's a nice rifle setup!
Thats one classy looking rifle. Thanks for the video
@@brickhammerSS Thank you. She's one of my favorites.
The 30-30 works, it's cheap, available everywhere, plenty of rifles made for it, and it doesn't kick much.
@@PassivePortfolios Completely agree. It's an excellent cartridge.
The 30-30 rifle and cartridge is a lot of things, but one thing it is not anymore and that is cheap. I was just in Dunham's sports recently and most of the regular (Federal, Winchester, Remington) 150 and 170 grain bullets are $39.99 per box of 20. I'm 74 years old today and I've used the 30-30 to take most of the deer I've killed over the years and for a large chunk of that time 30-30 ammo was $10.00 per box (+ or - a dollar or two). I still have a box of Sears 30-30 ammo that sold for about $6.00 back in the 60's or 70's. And as far as the rifles, a new Marlin 336 30-30 made by Ruger will set you back $1,200.00 or $1,300.00 dollars. The Winchester model 94 built by Miroku in Japan is running about the same price the last time that I checked. Around this area of northeastern Pennsylvania, a used Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 will run in the $800.00 and up price range. I have one deer rifle left in my gun cabinet and it is a Winchester Model 94 30-30 built in 1992 and it has the cross bolt safety on it, which I have no problem with. In my younger days we hunted deer almost exclusively by "driving" deer with drivers and standers and flankers. Going from woodlot to woodlot, jumping in and out of pickups meant loading and unloading your rifle many times a day. Many a time someone, usually a young hunter, would have an accidental discharge when trying to lever live rounds out of a Winchester 94. Anyway, I liked your presentation and I wholeheartedly agree with you that a good 30-30 will do most anything that you need from a hunting rifle on the homestead.
@@robertslusser6753 Thank you for sharing your experience. Like yourself, I have no problem with the crossbolt safety and prefer the extra layer of safety. I like the transfer bar mechanism on Ruger single actions for the same reason. I wish prices weren't so extravagant, but humans aren't smart enough to realize that by asking for bigger government, they'll be paying for it through inflation. High prices on firearms and ammo is something we'll all have to fight against since they're not going down. Makes me glad I put back all of those handloading components when they were reasonable. Good comment and best wishes.
@@TheBackwoodsHermitis that the “curly-maple” edition?
@@portugal5698 Yes it is.
Here in Canada 30-30 is widely used on all game including black bears,elk, moose , caribou, and even grizzly bears. Modern ammos help too including hornady leverevolution ftx, nosler, buffalo bore and Barnes 190grain. People underestimate it these days but it's a proven caliber. It's sad actually. You just have to know its limits, range and shot placement is key. It's a low key sledgehammer.
@@heydaddy6817 For sure. Excellent cartridge when used properly.
I have a .30-30 win and I agree 100% with everything you said. Great video .
I wasn’t a fan of the 30-30 until I bought a Marlin 336. I am absolutely loving this rifle to the point of installing a XS Sights system on it with a picatinny rail. It is my go to rifle for hunting and scouting.
@@trynsurviven2440 That is an excellent rig that will serve you very well.
Its the best deer rifle ever made!
Steve, you handled very well and professionally what is considered an extremely delicate subject on social media. 🧡
@@AlasBabylon1 Thank you. I'm not looking to be a firearm focused channel, but it is a part of homesteading that deserves addressing. Also, the shooting sports are a passion of mine and I had a 17 year career in a well trained armed position so when the mood strikes me I'll touch on the subject.
I agree Guns, Tools, Cars and Pizza are all personal preferences 😊✌🌲🦌🌳
My 336C has a manufacture date of 1950. I've had it for decades, and will keep it forever!
@@serpent645 Happy to hear it. That's what they were meant for.
The 336 in 35 Remington is a great rifle too!
@@dr.froghopper6711 For sure. Great rifle and cartridge combination!
That is a really nice 30-30win with that blond wood.
I am 64 years old so my first deer I shot was using a very old Marlin 336 in 30-30 made in 1948.
I was 12 years old and after that I stopped counting dead deer after 300.
For a short time, I used a 30-06 that became my father and my own very worst cartridge rifle we ever used and still to this day I think the 30-06 is a very bad choice of a rifle to buy and from my guiding in Alaska the worst of all is the 30-06.
I shot nearly everyone's deer from family to friends they would buy the tag some came hunting in the party and I wacked their deer or buying the tag then tell me we need the meat go get us a deer.
Now the Marlin 30-30 hangs on the wall and has not been used in some 10 years.
Now I use for Black tail deer - Roosvelt Elk - Yukon Moose - Alaska Brown bear and interior Grizzly - Dall sheep and mountain goat I own these -- Mauser custom 98 300 Wby mag - 300 Wby mag in Weatherby mark 5 with new Pac Nor barrel - Win Model 70 338 win mag - CZ 550 9.3x62 Mauser - AR 10 custom 375 WSM - AR 10 custom 6mm-284 --- AR 10 custom 6.5 -284Norma - Tikka T3 ultra-light 7mm Rem mag - marlin 336 35 Rem then 5 more AR 15s I did in different chamberings.
The Weatherby Mark 5 in 300 WBY mag with the new Pac Nor super match 27 inch - fluted - muzzle break on barrel is pretty much set up for allot of kinds of hunting and using a Leupold 6.5x20 power with 30 mm tube I got all covered with this set up.
The 7mm Rem Tikka T3 is for long walking, and it is so light it hardly felt to carry but recoil rattles the teeth and eyeballs.
Good info. Thanks for sharing. ❤️😊
I have been a huge fan of 30-30 carbines since 1971 when I downed a big doe in western Pennsylvania. Your video is well presented. Thanks for sharing!
@@LoisLeuven Glad you enjoyed it. One of the best things about the 30-30 may be the number of great hunting stories, like yours, it has given so many people.
You covered a lot of ground in this video. Nice job!
Best Wishes from Montana!
@@Mike-zw7fq Thank you! All the best to you as well.
Thanks for your vid backwoods hermit.well done,interesting!!
@@Stump51 Happy that you enjoyed it.
I never knew the reason the tips were blunt was to keep them from striking the primer of the round in front of it. Very interesting video
Tried and true ...👍🤠
you hit the nail on the head, thanks.
@@davidmaxwell2205 Appreciate the comment. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
I have taken nearly all my East Texas Whitetail with a 170 gr FNSP. My first rife as kid was an old Win 95. But I’ve been a Marlin guy for many years. I’ve had buddies tell me I need this new cartridge or that, but i keep bringing home the venison so why change? 😊
@@WayniacKT I'm not surprised. Totally agree with you that there's no need to change when your rifle and cartridge choice are proven critter gitters.
Thanks for the addition !
Very intelligent discussion sir.
@@haroldmilroy4489 Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Pretty much everything you said I agree with. True, especially regarding the model 1894 / 94, I do not recommend, as a professional gunsmith, persons disassembling. Good video
@@thatsthewayitgoes9 Thank you. Glad you found value in the video.
I also have a marlin 336 RC made in 1950 given to me by my father in 1992 and been hunting with it since
@@DavidSanborn-lu1mj Awesome. I love hearing stories like that. Good rifles are made to be put to use and then handed down to someone else who will also put them to use.
Personally I love lever actions, including the 30-30. However, one scenario I was in has happened at least once :) A friend of mine wounded a deer, it was his first time hunting. So we track it and the trail disappears near the water. Then we see the wounded deer swimming across the forest lake. Pointless to shoot it in the water, so we wait until it reaches the opposite shore. By that time it's 300-ish yards. We did fire a number of shots and then proceeded to walk around the lake to that spot. At which point the deer swims again. We walked to that spot again and never found it. Sometimes you do have to make shots a bit farther out, even if the woods in general don't let you see past 100 or 150. Likewise with hunting fields in the Midwest/Northeast. You might think my friend made a poor shot, but he had already killed a deer the day prior. Things happen. I'll still use my 30-30, but I like having other options.
@@languagesource355 That's a good story that can be learned from. Thank you for sharing. We can love our lever actions but still keep longer range tools in the arsenal.
I love the old 30WCF. I’ve got two pre 64 1894’s. My great grandfathers bought new from the Sears catalog in 1917, it’s a24” barreled rifle, and one I found at auction made in 1958 in carbine. The family one is likely done being used and I’m thinking of having it rebuilt by Turnbull to factory new and using it as a display gun with the picture of everyone that has used it to take game.
@@tufelhunden5795 Awesome. Those are wonderful pieces to have in the collection.
That's a good looking rifle.
@@maxmoody3074 Thank you. Walnut is gorgeous as well, but I'm a real sucker for maple stocks. She's not just all looks though. I've been living primitively for around 9 months now with her as my primary carry around and it's held up incredibly well under the varying environmental conditions.
Is that a custom stock? Really nice looking 336. Get yourself a cross bolt safety delete kit and the rifle will be perfect.
@@TOPGUNMPD08 It's a factory maple stock. Marlin offered them with maple for a few years. I know many people hate the cross bolt safeties, but it has never bothered me personally.
Nice looking gun,
Saw that white maple stock version in 44 mag a lot,
Got a few dirty thirty s
In savage 24.. over 12/ 20 guage.
And a remlin 30 30 stainless...
just for availability
As u say,,,,everywhere
I would recommend a bfr in 30 30,
Or a t/c encore in 30 30..
The encore is take down backpack able..
With 308/ 30 06 potential if u get accidentally dropped in alaska somewhere.
Ammo availability thing.
@@danielravenstar4051 Thank you. Those Savage 24s of yours chambered for 30-30 are a real treasure! Been keeping my eye out for one.
It seems a lot of people make much to do over the quality of Marlins immediately after the Remington acquisition, but I believe outside of those couple years, the Remlins are just fine. I also have a 336 that's JM stamped and I feel the Remlin in this video made around 2016?ish is just as good as the older one.
Great discussion. Sectional density is everything when selecting proper ammunition. Have you tried the Barnes pioneer 190 grain? Very intriguing!
@@brandonwarren5758 Thank you. Never tried the 190 grainers. I can imagine they're some heavy hitters though.
If you like a Lever actiopn, The Browning BLR in 308, its a 30-30 on steroids. You can get it to 300 Win Mag
@@WillyK51 The BLR is an awesome rifle. I haven't grabbed one since I already have an autoloader in .308 and bolt actions in other similar power range cartridges. I completely agree with you though, a BLR in .308, 7mm-08 or 6.5 Creedmoor would be a perfect woods rifle for the medium game down here in the south.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit I dream of a SS Takedown BLR with all the barrels avalable in a set, 22-250 to 358Win.(450 Marlin also But not much ammo)
@@WillyK51 That would be incredible.
Good presentation. I agree with your assessment of the 30-30. Its a great cartridge for the woods. You can get a rifle in different lengths. If you were to get a 16" carbine 30-30, would it be significantly less accurate than a 20" at the woodland distances?
@@blchamblisscscp8476 I wouldn't expect much difference in accuracy at woodland distances between a 16" or 20" barrel. When using iron sights, the longer barrel will give you a little longer sight radius, which can make it easier to be more accurate. Hence why target handgun shooters typically pick longer barrelled pistols over short snubbies. So it's not really that a few inches of barrel drastically changes the ballistics, it's more about the shooter's handling of the different sizes. And of course using a scope or red dot would negate any sight radius differences. But again at woodland distances where whitetail deer are taken or personal defense ranges, I would be perfectly comfortable with either barrel length and choose what feels best for the individual shooter.
In some parts of the northeast the 30/30 has taken more deer than anything else. Good video .
LEVERevolution by Hornady changed the game. 46 years ago I bought my son a single shot H&R 30-30. I handloaded for it and pointy bullets will give you a flatter trajectory and more range. Very light loads can be used for small game. Single shot usually only requires neck sizing so cartridges last a long time.
@@kfsrmn For your specific application, I would agree. However I feel that for the vast majority of deer hunters in the woods, taking game at under 100 yards, those bullets are unnecessary. If that's what someone likes and their rifle shoots it well, then they absolutely should use and enjoy them though. Love those old single shots like you describe.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit Do those pointy bullets expand well in 30-30 velocities?
@@garyh1449 I have wondered this myself.
The Hornady round turns it from a 150 yd gun to a 200 yard gun and it doesn’t really do much else.
Is that a Marlin “Curly Maple” edition? Beautiful piece!
Gosh-a-mighty man, that is one beautiful stock on that 336 !! How does one get one like that?
@@easttexan2933 Thank you. Marlin used to offer them from the factory with the maple stock option. I believe the model name is 336C. The C standing for curly maple. I have no idea if Ruger plans to ever offer maple on the new 336s they are making.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit thanks for the info.
I’m on hunt to add a lever action to my stash. Not sure what/who to go with right now. Excellent presentation. Very informative. There’s wisdom in many counselors.
@@RJ-qq8kb Thank you. Best wishes in finding the perfect rifle which fits you best.
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nice video how did you get the blond wood stock like it nice
@@bobbrua8758 Thank you. That is the maple stock that came from the factory. Marlin offered it as an option for a few years. Maple used to be more popular back in the day, now all I know of is Winchester offering it from the factory on their Model 70 Super Grade currently. I have 4 rifles with maple stocks and love the contrast between the blond wood and dark blued steel. Hopefully more companies bring that back as an option in the future.
WHERE didyouget those maple stocks?!? Gorgeous!
@@tomedwards643 They are beautiful, aren't they? They came from the factory. For a while Marlin had them as a standard option. I believe they were model 336C. The C standing for curly maple.
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Yes, they are beautiful. Going to call Marlin to see if they might have some in back stock. Take care.
@@tomedwards643 Good luck in your search. You take care as well.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit Thanks!
I will not engage in an argument about what caliber is the best , but lets face it, what kid didn't want to be just like Lucas McCain in rifleman? As for me, I'll be keeping my lever action 92 in 30/30 . I just wish I could afford to feed it on a monthly basis. It's over 1 dollar per round. When I bought my rifle it was .40 cents per round. I'm seriously considering a lever action 22 magnum because most of my hunting now is coyotes and feral hogs. 22 mag is selling between .30-.35 cents in my area.
What sub model rifle is lying on your table. That is one good-looking rifle. I can see it's a marlin, but the color of the wood is just gorgeous.
@@lylewalters909 It's a 336C with maple stock.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit ok I wasn't sure if it was a sub model or the 336 ..like the 336 m for maple. That is a gorgeous rifle. I have bought rifles just because of the wood on them lol. That's also how I ended up with 7, 30-06's and 5 300win mags lol along with others
@@lylewalters909 I believe the C might stand for curly maple. Totally understand buying rifles because of their wood. Companies rarely offer maple stocks anymore so I've bought 4 of them when the opportunity presented itself. Winchester does offer maple on their Model 70 Super Grade if you want to go view some rifle porn. I have a couple of those I plan to make a future video about. Nothing wrong with having some 30-06s in the arsenal. It's a little more horsepower than is needed for hunting in my area, but there is no denying how great that cartridge is and if I lived in bear defense country, it would probably be my primary rifle chambering.
@TheBackwoodsHermit My go to and favorite is the model 70. I have almost bought the maple ones several times lol. I just looked at one in 264win mag but the guy wanted 2k for it..nope wasn't born at night lol.
@@lylewalters909 Yeah that's a little steep, especially when any FFL should be able to order one for under MSRP.
That’s why they came out with 30 Remington which is rare😊
@@KathyHarris-v5u One of many pretty good cartridges that just never quite caught on.
I’ve only shot a .22 rifle. How does the rifle in your video compare to shooting, say, a shotgun? I’m most comfortable with a 9mm pistol, and am definitely not ready for a shotgun. Is a rifle somewhere in between the two?
@@miscellaneousme Any centerfire rifle is gonna be a big step up in power from the .22 you shot. What cartridge you choose a rifle chambered in is gonna make the biggest difference on how hard it recoils against your shoulder. The next step up in power is usually the 5.56/.223rem cartridge that you commonly find in AR-15s. If the AR aesthetic isn't to your liking, the Ruger Mini 14 (which is also semiautomatic) and some bolt action rifles are also chambered in that cartridge. The next step up in power from there is either the .243 winchester cartridge which is commonly chambered in bolt action rifles or the 30-30 shown in this video chambered in lever actions. If all you've experienced is a .22 rifle, it would be worth renting something from a range chambered in 5.56/.223 to see how that feels for you before jumping up to the next step. The .243win and 30-30 class of power is usually the minimum required by law for deer hunting, depending on each state.
The 3 most common shotgun chamberings are in order of power: .410 the lightest, then 20 gauge and then 12 gauge being most powerful. Recoil wise, I feel .410 falls in between 5.56/.223rem and the .243/30-30 class. 20 gauge is more stout than .243/30-30 and 12 gauge is much more stout. In general, I would rank the power of the most common rifle and shotgun cartridges as following from lightest to hardest kicking:
.22 rifle
5.56/.223rem rifle
.410 shotgun
.243win bolt rifle
30-30 lever rifle
20 gauge shotgun
12 gauge shotgun and a bunch of rifle chamberings.
If you like the lever action style of the rifle in this video, they also make lever action .22s, which are the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Check out Henry Arms for a huge, affordable selection of those.
Hope this helps answer your questions and feel free to ask more if you need further clarification. Before moving south last year, my previous 17 year career was firearms focused and I love to help newer shooters.
@@TheBackwoodsHermit Thank you for the in depth and thorough response! I’ll be sure to keep it as a reference as I explore more into firearms.
One of the most popular do it all cartridge for newbies, is the 243 win.A for ever cartridge is the 7-08,It's the 243 necked up to 7MM. If you like a Lever, get a Browning BLR in 7-08, Light, sleek and fast. Shotgun, get 20 Ga. Target loads are light, as you get used, Hunting loads do the same as 12 Ga.
@@TheBackwoodsHermitYou are 100% correct that a 22 lever is about the most fun you can have with clothes on. I was able to score a Henry Golden Boy for under $300 a year or so ago and just have a blast with it.
got one myself
@@TennGrizz Can't go wrong.
3030 is not cheap you check the prices
@@TonyaLeibach-e8z Nothing is cheap anymore. .30-30 is still comparable in price to the other proven, classic centerfire rifle cartridges like .308Win or .243Win though. And noticeably cheaper than the newer ones being marketed as made of magic.
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444 marlin , the 44-06 . That is a brush gun .
Got four 444 marlins,
One is the bfr,
Making a custom holster for it,
Being the big honking thing that is gonna be.
Lots of real estate on the back side ,
For a take down t/c encore
With extra barrels,
Grab one package and go kinda thing
@@danielravenstar4051 sounds like a prime candidate for a shoulder stock holster combo .
😉 love it !! I have a friend who hunts E. N.C., and swears by the 'Foe-foe-foe', nothing but the truth....👍
No cartridge. Yes rifle. Marlin was the best & chambered in better cartridges.
i disagree cuz 35REM is better than 30-30
@@Perry2186 Love me some 35Rem as well, but outside of us handloaders, they are difficult to keep fed for the average shooter. Excellent cartridge though.
Slim you missed a important point in your video.I have a model 94 win but you should have mentioned that the marlin with side ejection is a lot easier to mount a scope on and Henry and Rossi both make good lever 3030s.But I have to say that one your holding is the prettiest one I've ever seen it must be a deluxe model nice lookin gun
@@chub4141 Thank you. I also love the look of the maple stock. You're right that I should've mentioned the side ejection and scopability of the Marlin. Good points.
And curly maple furniture makes it a prize at the the range.
@@donaldcope4982 For sure. I love the contrast between maple stocks and blued steel.
If you only need to shoot 50-100 yards go ahead a use the 30-30. Out west where shots typically can be out to 500-600 yards the 30-30 is useless. Maybe good for a door stop.
Did you watch the video. The man said if you are hunting long range the 30-30 is not the tool.