A system that produces Information NOT Data about your shooting technique. An incredibly valuable asset to help me improve as a shooter. Hardware, software and support are all great. Worth every penny and I say that as a tight-fisted Yorkshireman!
Just tried out for the first time. After figuring out the power button on the bottom side (I was like Duh!, when I did) everything went smooth. Can't wait to live fire it at range tomorrow! Good job Mantis on the design!
I’m very curious.. how does it gauge your score? What does the mantis base itself on? Like how does it know what your aiming? Like you shoot anything.. how does it know you hit it in the middle etc.. so many questions can’t find the answer
As an electrical designer (laser ranger ranger/designater), I predict this will be big, military tech gone commercial. I don't have one yet but I will, soon.
So there is no actual target to aim at ? So this is measuring movement, but no accuracy. So the quicker you come up to target and pull the trigger the less it can evaluate target to actual trigger pull?
It's a bit tricky to actually wrap one's mind around it. In short: it can be done with sensors and Algorithms that can track firearm movement before, during, and after the trigger press. If there's considerable movement before, during, and/or after the trigger break then you're not* going to hit what was aimed at with a real bullet or on this trainer. If the firearm doesn't deviate much immediately before, during, and after the trigger breaks then you will* hit what you're aiming at. Now since this thing doesn't have some fixed point you aim at and it measures Deviation from center (like laser trainers... or good ole bullet into paper), it can't provide a direct accuracy like what you're thinking of. Inbuilt in this trainer is the assumption that where your sights settle is where the "target" is; and then it measures how far you deviate from the imaginary target immediately before, during, and immediately after the trigger press. So it's sort of a measure of how much one does, or doesn't pull the shot during and after pulling the trigger. And that translates almost directly to hitting a real target with real bullets (wind, elevation, distance holds, and other variables not withstanding). It's worth noting that this trainer (well the X3 and X10 model anyways) can work with live fire, so it can be checked against real world results. A high score on the Mantis would correlate to a tight group, a low score on the Mantis with a open group on paper; and the spider chart on the Mantis would reflect the group dispersion on the actual target. I haven't gotten a chance to take this thing for live fire yet so I am curious to see how accurately it matches the holes on target.
LibertyHog 1 Excellent description... I think... I don’t have one of these things yet, but your breakdown of how it functions makes perfect sense. Thanks
@@paulmalutinok7221 It doesn't now. The analysis and feedback does not require knowing the target or the distance to the target. This makes the system very flexible.
I would imagine, that it doesn't necessarily track accuracy, but rather the deviation of the muzzle upon squeezing the trigger. If the muscle does not deviate at all upon squeezing the trigger, perhaps you will earn 100% score.
The only thing that bothers me is mantis makes a big deal about it fitting unless you don't have a rail but then nickle and dimes people for an adapter to fit one of the most popular weapons out right now the p365. At the price you should have a selection drop down so people can tell you what they are buying it for and provide it to your customers as part of the package. It doesn't make sense to have it separated and it feels misleading.
We wish all guns had the same type of rail (or in some cases, any rail at all). That's why we have adapters, so you can still use your firearm of choice. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Good ad but I just don't get why everything "shooting" or gun-related must have a Rock guitar/electric guitar style jingle at the beginning. Why not Enya or something? ;p
I just got the Mantis X and ordered the specific mag baseplate rail for my Beretta 92S. I can't see how to remove the existing baseplate on my magazine and install the new one. Perhaps I'm not leaning on it hard enough or perhaps I don't know wth I'm doing ... help please ... perhaps there's even a video I couldn't find one.
Hi Larry, to replace the baseplate, you will use a punch of some kind to depress the round pin on the bottom of the magazine to allow it to be removed. Then slide off the existing one and slide the replacement onto the bottom of the magazine. The round pin will click back into place when the new baseplate is locked in place. Be careful when pulling the stock base plate off. The internals of the magazine is spring-loaded.
How does the device know what you’re aiming at and how inaccurate that first shot may have been? How does the device tell if your follow up shots were off or not if it doesn’t know what the target is?? Is the first shot just always logged as dead center and you need to try and aim where ever that first shot was taken? Genuinely interested just curious how this device actually tracks accuracy if there is no physical target to log accuracy data. If you can use anything as a target wouldn’t the first shot always be 100% accurate?
The MantisX is a sensor that attaches to the outside of your firearm and senses all the movement of your firearm and gives that data back to the MantisX app to show you what is going on and how to improve. By reducing movement and practicing fundamentals, your shot placement at the range will ultimately improve.
I suggest re-doing this video to correct for the scenes where you look away from the camera. It's very distracting noticing that all of a sudden, you're talking to someone else. Each time that happened, I lost concentration, and had to redirect my attention back to the video.
Do you have to rack the slide each time you depress the trigger for it to work? Also, how to you train for recoil control since there is none with this? Any suggestions? Thanks
The MantisX system does not cycle your firearm, so you will have to rack the slide with a striker-fired pistol. The Mantis X10 Elite has recoil analysis for live-fire, so you can work on recoil control while at the range.
@@InternetSavage No. There are 3 main systems : electric, gas and spring. With the spring systems, you have to rack each time. They're mainly used on shotgun replicas, or small arms (for cheap replicas). The electric replicas use batteries, it's called AEG. It's mainly used for rifle replicas due to the size of the batteries. So for a pistol, it can be spring or gas. For gas replica, there are also 2 sub-category : blow back or not. Blow back mimics the recoil of the slide. I have a replica of my real handgun (Glock 17), so I can train at home also ;-) I train dryfire also, but airsoft is fun. You can practice reload, aiming... You can have a look at this video : th-cam.com/video/4ezHq4KVkb8/w-d-xo.html It's a TH-cam channel (Warrior Poet Society) by John Lovell, an instructor and a funny guy :-)
@@arnauddion1204 okay I want a legit training gun. Is this a decent one? www.amazon.com/Glock-Elite-Licensed-Blowback-Airsoft/dp/B07C4NPBCG/ Also I see they recommend this gas, do you know how many shots a can usually lasts? www.amazon.com/Asura-Power-Green-G-1000-Pack/dp/B003BMMPTS/
A lot left out of their videos. Am I aiming at a target? Lasers? The products are reasonably priced but still expensive enough where I want to know exactly what I’m getting into. What about their simulated recoil systems? I want a dry fire system as I can’t always get out to the range, this seems like it could be the ticket
Yes it is. Right now the easiest way to accomplish this is by having each user install the app on their own phone. When the sensor is connected to that phone, the data is automatically saved to the correct user profile.
@@MantisX Order #1852859 Christmas Wish list Dual transmitters for simultaneous Pistol/Rifle evolutions. And/Or multi targeting system to place throughout the house and create an in-home shoot house. Thanx and I already convinced a friend to order one.
No directions at all no explanation on what tripod to use I believe I'm missing parts but I don't know because I have no packing list. Just piss poor so far
Wait. What in the fuck is going on with aiming & firing? That was some piss poor explanation & WITHOUT anything useful to see. Basically it was skipped over. If I don't have a place to aim? Please explain what's going on with this. I'd love to set up a target & aim for dead center. If there isn't a target center then wtf is this gadget doing? It WOULDN'T know where I was aiming. It wouldn't know if I'm 10 feet off either. I'm seriously looking at buying something that lets you dry fire & looks at your aim etc. My weapon qualifications happen twice a year (every 6 months) ⁰& if I found something that's awesome I know half of my squad would buy this up in a heartbeat.
The system detects the point of aim prior to each shot. Using this, it can tell you how far off that point of aim your shot would have been given the movement that was detected before, during, and after the shot. You can aim at the center of a target, or any other part, and the feedback will be provided regardless of the part of the target you choose to aim at for a given repetition or drill. This is because each shot is analyzed to determine the point of aim for that one shot independent of any other shot in the session. This function is not dependant on any lighting conditions or distance to the target. Each shot is represented over a simulated bullseye target within the app. You can aim at a silhouette target, bullseye target, or anything else (a lamp, lightswitch, or blank wall) and the same analysis and feedback will be provided. If that does not clarify, please let me know what other questions remained and we'll answer them.
A system that produces Information NOT Data about your shooting technique. An incredibly valuable asset to help me improve as a shooter. Hardware, software and support are all great. Worth every penny and I say that as a tight-fisted Yorkshireman!
Just tried out for the first time. After figuring out the power button on the bottom side (I was like Duh!, when I did) everything went smooth. Can't wait to live fire it at range tomorrow! Good job Mantis on the design!
I am new to Mantis X. Really cool
I’m very curious.. how does it gauge your score? What does the mantis base itself on? Like how does it know what your aiming? Like you shoot anything.. how does it know you hit it in the middle etc.. so many questions can’t find the answer
Great tool for trigger control
Very informative, thank you for posting!
Great tutorial, good info and well thought out product!
Great Video! Could you do one that would explain how to interpret holster draw data and maximize improvement from the data we are collecting?
As an electrical designer (laser ranger ranger/designater), I predict this will be big, military tech gone commercial. I don't have one yet but I will, soon.
How does the app know where your target is?
Why is there no video for how/where to attach the picatinny rail? It’s not making sense to me at all
From 0:44 to 0:50 show mounting it.
So there is no actual target to aim at ? So this is measuring movement, but no accuracy.
So the quicker you come up to target and pull the trigger the less it can evaluate target to actual trigger pull?
Well, now I gotta get one for the kids
Black device, black gun, black shirt, black screen. Not easy to see how the device slides on without any color contrast.
I’ve watched multiple videos and still cannot understand how you can use any target. How would know if I’m “hitting” my intended target?
It's a bit tricky to actually wrap one's mind around it.
In short: it can be done with sensors and Algorithms that can track firearm movement before, during, and after the trigger press.
If there's considerable movement before, during, and/or after the trigger break then you're not* going to hit what was aimed at with a real bullet or on this trainer.
If the firearm doesn't deviate much immediately before, during, and after the trigger breaks then you will* hit what you're aiming at.
Now since this thing doesn't have some fixed point you aim at and it measures Deviation from center (like laser trainers... or good ole bullet into paper), it can't provide a direct accuracy like what you're thinking of.
Inbuilt in this trainer is the assumption that where your sights settle is where the "target" is; and then it measures how far you deviate from the imaginary target immediately before, during, and immediately after the trigger press.
So it's sort of a measure of how much one does, or doesn't pull the shot during and after pulling the trigger.
And that translates almost directly to hitting a real target with real bullets (wind, elevation, distance holds, and other variables not withstanding).
It's worth noting that this trainer (well the X3 and X10 model anyways) can work with live fire, so it can be checked against real world results. A high score on the Mantis would correlate to a tight group, a low score on the Mantis with a open group on paper; and the spider chart on the Mantis would reflect the group dispersion on the actual target.
I haven't gotten a chance to take this thing for live fire yet so I am curious to see how accurately it matches the holes on target.
LibertyHog 1 Excellent description... I think... I don’t have one of these things yet, but your breakdown of how it functions makes perfect sense. Thanks
How does the Mantis know what you intend to shoot?? Video does not explain.
@@paulmalutinok7221 It doesn't now. The analysis and feedback does not require knowing the target or the distance to the target. This makes the system very flexible.
I would imagine, that it doesn't necessarily track accuracy, but rather the deviation of the muzzle upon squeezing the trigger. If the muscle does not deviate at all upon squeezing the trigger, perhaps you will earn 100% score.
So you put a target on the wall to dry fire? I’m not sure, or is there a specific target that has to be purchased?
you can use virtually anything you want as a target. During my dry fire practices I'll use door knobs, light switches, or even cabinet handles
How do you know it is fully charged
Did it bother anyone that the guy closed 1 eye while shooting?🤯
I guess I'm confused..what is placed in the chamber
The only thing that bothers me is mantis makes a big deal about it fitting unless you don't have a rail but then nickle and dimes people for an adapter to fit one of the most popular weapons out right now the p365. At the price you should have a selection drop down so people can tell you what they are buying it for and provide it to your customers as part of the package. It doesn't make sense to have it separated and it feels misleading.
We wish all guns had the same type of rail (or in some cases, any rail at all). That's why we have adapters, so you can still use your firearm of choice. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Good ad but I just don't get why everything "shooting" or gun-related must have a Rock guitar/electric guitar style jingle at the beginning. Why not Enya or something? ;p
True. Probably licensing fees. :)
I just got the Mantis X and ordered the specific mag baseplate rail for my Beretta 92S. I can't see how to remove the existing baseplate on my magazine and install the new one. Perhaps I'm not leaning on it hard enough or perhaps I don't know wth I'm doing ... help please ... perhaps there's even a video I couldn't find one.
Hi Larry, to replace the baseplate, you will use a punch of some kind to depress the round pin on the bottom of the magazine to allow it to be removed. Then slide off the existing one and slide the replacement onto the bottom of the magazine. The round pin will click back into place when the new baseplate is locked in place. Be careful when pulling the stock base plate off. The internals of the magazine is spring-loaded.
Need help changing adaptors to 1913 rails
What kind of ranges are needed in home? Can I pin a target up at any range? What's the best range to start at
The MantisX is not a shot placement system. If you want to use a target simply to have something to aim at, you're welcome to do that.
How does the device know what you’re aiming at and how inaccurate that first shot may have been? How does the device tell if your follow up shots were off or not if it doesn’t know what the target is?? Is the first shot just always logged as dead center and you need to try and aim where ever that first shot was taken? Genuinely interested just curious how this device actually tracks accuracy if there is no physical target to log accuracy data. If you can use anything as a target wouldn’t the first shot always be 100% accurate?
The MantisX is a sensor that attaches to the outside of your firearm and senses all the movement of your firearm and gives that data back to the MantisX app to show you what is going on and how to improve. By reducing movement and practicing fundamentals, your shot placement at the range will ultimately improve.
I suggest re-doing this video to correct for the scenes where you look away from the camera.
It's very distracting noticing that all of a sudden, you're talking to someone else. Each time that happened, I lost concentration, and had to redirect my attention back to the video.
Wha do the dots mean? I have 4 dots in 5 shot exercise?
So we’re dry firing with our own gun. Won’t dry firing damage our guns? I grew up on that belief
Most modern firearms can be safely dry fired. Read you owners manual to be sure or contact the company.
will this work with a vintage rifle.... for example my lee enfeild and my mosin nagant?
I've tried the instructions across two different devices and I still can't get mine to pair.
Hi! Reach out to us at support@mantisx.com or 630-551-8171 and we'll help you out!
@@MantisX thanks! I have an email in to you guys already.
I'm for sure ordering this for our house. I'd say for my wife l, to sound macho, but it's for us because I'm a honest man.
Do you have to rack the slide each time you depress the trigger for it to work? Also, how to you train for recoil control since there is none with this? Any suggestions? Thanks
The MantisX system does not cycle your firearm, so you will have to rack the slide with a striker-fired pistol. The Mantis X10 Elite has recoil analysis for live-fire, so you can work on recoil control while at the range.
Not if you have a Taurus G series.
Any single-action semi-auto pistol will NOT require racking for each shot. In addition to the Taurus G series, I use a SCCY CPX2 9mm.
Get yourself a coolfire trainer for dry fire practice without having the rack the slide
Does this system have a training gun so you don't have to rack it after every trigger pull?
No. I use a gas blow back airsoft replica for that.
@@arnauddion1204not familiar with airsoft at all, does the airsoft gun have to use gas for it to work?
@@InternetSavage No. There are 3 main systems : electric, gas and spring. With the spring systems, you have to rack each time. They're mainly used on shotgun replicas, or small arms (for cheap replicas). The electric replicas use batteries, it's called AEG. It's mainly used for rifle replicas due to the size of the batteries.
So for a pistol, it can be spring or gas. For gas replica, there are also 2 sub-category : blow back or not. Blow back mimics the recoil of the slide.
I have a replica of my real handgun (Glock 17), so I can train at home also ;-) I train dryfire also, but airsoft is fun. You can practice reload, aiming...
You can have a look at this video : th-cam.com/video/4ezHq4KVkb8/w-d-xo.html
It's a TH-cam channel (Warrior Poet Society) by John Lovell, an instructor and a funny guy :-)
@@arnauddion1204 okay I want a legit training gun. Is this a decent one?
www.amazon.com/Glock-Elite-Licensed-Blowback-Airsoft/dp/B07C4NPBCG/
Also I see they recommend this gas, do you know how many shots a can usually lasts?
www.amazon.com/Asura-Power-Green-G-1000-Pack/dp/B003BMMPTS/
Dry fire mag does that for you.
What if I can't turn it off? I've held the power button but it won't shut off
Try to hold it down for 5 seconds to see if it'll do a hard reset. Otherwise, please reach out to customer support.
I just bought mine. Do you need to charge it before use?
We always recommend charging up electronic devices when you first receive them.
A lot left out of their videos. Am I aiming at a target? Lasers? The products are reasonably priced but still expensive enough where I want to know exactly what I’m getting into. What about their simulated recoil systems? I want a dry fire system as I can’t always get out to the range, this seems like it could be the ticket
You can check out more about our products at our website: mantisx.com/
Is the X10 compatible with multiple users?
Yes it is. Right now the easiest way to accomplish this is by having each user install the app on their own phone. When the sensor is connected to that phone, the data is automatically saved to the correct user profile.
@@MantisX Order #1852859
Christmas Wish list
Dual transmitters for simultaneous Pistol/Rifle evolutions. And/Or multi targeting system to place throughout the house and create an in-home shoot house.
Thanx and I already convinced a friend to order one.
how do i know when its fully charged?
the light will turn off.
What are you aiming at? Are there targets invoved or are you just aiming at a all?
MantisX doesn't utilize targets, you can aim at anything you want.
Mine arrived yesterday, with no pouch.
if you feel you're missing something, you can reach out to our customer support: mantisx.com/pages/contact-us
No directions at all no explanation on what tripod to use I believe I'm missing parts but I don't know because I have no packing list. Just piss poor so far
MantisX doesn't come with tripods or targets. Have you had a chance to contact our customer service for further details on what might be missing?
Price?
Wait.
What in the fuck is going on with aiming & firing?
That was some piss poor explanation & WITHOUT anything useful to see. Basically it was skipped over.
If I don't have a place to aim?
Please explain what's going on with this.
I'd love to set up a target & aim for dead center. If there isn't a target center then wtf is this gadget doing? It WOULDN'T know where I was aiming. It wouldn't know if I'm 10 feet off either.
I'm seriously looking at buying something that lets you dry fire & looks at your aim etc.
My weapon qualifications happen twice a year (every 6 months) ⁰& if I found something that's awesome I know half of my squad would buy this up in a heartbeat.
The system detects the point of aim prior to each shot. Using this, it can tell you how far off that point of aim your shot would have been given the movement that was detected before, during, and after the shot. You can aim at the center of a target, or any other part, and the feedback will be provided regardless of the part of the target you choose to aim at for a given repetition or drill. This is because each shot is analyzed to determine the point of aim for that one shot independent of any other shot in the session. This function is not dependant on any lighting conditions or distance to the target.
Each shot is represented over a simulated bullseye target within the app. You can aim at a silhouette target, bullseye target, or anything else (a lamp, lightswitch, or blank wall) and the same analysis and feedback will be provided.
If that does not clarify, please let me know what other questions remained and we'll answer them.
@@MantisX So what if you switch hands, does it still works?