I've heard Chloe Chua play, and she really is amazing. What is clear to me is that these two teens have immense potential to go really really far in their respective arts. What they need is essentially more time to devote to their art, in order to hone their abilities and develop their undeniable talent and potential to the maximum. I see a common obstacle in their path, their mainstream studies. If our education system can be flexible enough, they'd definitely flourish. Perhaps teenage prodigies like them could be given the leeway to follow a different timetable for their mainstream studies. We don't want them to drop out of school, neither do we want them to drop their pursuit of their artistic talents. So for eg, instead of taking the PSLE at age 12 in Primary Six, or GCE O levels at 16 or 18, perhaps outstanding prodigies like them can be allowed to take less subjects each year, and take the milestone exams at a much later age. If our education system can allow for such, Singapore can realistically have world champions in many of these arts industry. That would really put Singapore on the world map for arts and culture. And if these Singapore talents decide to, or have to, pursue something more mainstream later in their lives, they still have the typical paper qualifications to fall back on. I really hope to see them go all the way and make their name on the world stage. Especially Chloe Chua, as I'm a classical music lover. I can't imagine the day when Singapore has a world-renowned, multiple award-winning soloist. Speechless.
I agree. Singapore’s education system, while having helped boost our economy tremendously, should place a greater focus on the arts and sports too. There are young people in Singapore who have the dream and the ability as well to go on and become professionals or even prodigies if only our education system would allow them to. Sadly most who want to pursue the arts are told to give it up because arts has “no future” in Singapore, even if they actually have the talent and are willing to put in the hard work required. Yes, subjects like math, science and English are indeed very important, but arts should be held to a higher standard too. Only with a change in mindset of Singaporeans as a whole and with a change in the education system’s focus to not solely be on grades can Singapore nurture more rising talents in the arts and in the sports sector. Kids should be given a choice if they want to continue the conventional study path or pursue something else instead, and pursuing arts and sports i something that should be encouraged more.
Zi Han has essentially zero chance of going far in chess. Chess is devastatingly difficult, and devastatingly popular (meaning that enough people are interested in it that statistically, the strength of the top players who can emerge amongst these large numbers of players are so unhuman that it is statistically improbable for any given individual to be amongst them). At 13 and 2100+, Zi Han, although he would beat me even if drunk and 5 minutes to 1 minute, is still not really on track to make more money than a security guard from chess. On the other hand, where his standard education trajectory is is an entirely different story. Consider holistically the full environment of facts before making suggestions that sound appealing to the choir here that wants to be preached on how stifling our education system is. Or you end up hurting what you wanted to protect.
I think a common trait is that these prodigies are in certain ways much more mature than their ages generally predict. They have a deep understanding of what's important to them and what they need to do to achieve their goals in the future, and they are willing to sacrifice to attain them. Most kids and teens never think about that stuff, they just want to have fun and enjoy life in the present.
First saw Chloe on twoset violin, as their teacher.. and instantly loved her.., though i know she practice 40hrs a day but im a little concerned on her bruise. Hope these kids realize their dreams in life.
Most violonists I know have that bruise, me included, and it doesn't hurt at all, don't worry. It just appears naturally, after rubbing the same piece of skin everyday.
as their “teacher”. no way chloe is better than twoset violin. though chloe is considered as a prodigy, she is considered one of the best compared to people her age but never better than a professional that has been classically trained for 20+ years
12:45 every violinist actually takes so much pride in having this bruise though. If you get lazy the bruise will go away, and Chloe seems afraid of that haha
Amazing dedication and hard work from both Goh Zi Han and Chloe Chua! They really deserve their respect and where they are now. One thing to mention is that socialising with peers the same age as you is very crucial to the development of your social life and health in general that shouldn’t be neglected even with prodigies!
As a chess player, it's hard to juggle schoolwork, chess, and after-school activities, which is really fascinating to see Goh Zi Han managing his time wisely to choose between chess and school.
Indeed... parents who know their children very well and has been recognised their talent. Didn't push them to become a doctor or an enhineer or something else that usually parents are expecting from their children.
@@juliejules7780 Oh wow in MMA Islam Makhachev and Khabib from a Dagestan Mountain wipe out everyone in the UFC so yeah they are rich from young as far as I am concerned
my jaw dropped at 5:27 , whilst I have no idea of how hard it is to play 16th or 32th notes on violin, but getting the rhythm down for 16th notes, at least for me, is very hard (should prolly practice w a metronome more ngl) and it was a jump scare to me, and while writing this I saw the extra bar and I can't imagen the sheer amount of experience Chole Chua has and how much she has practiced, And we are around the same age too!
A 13-year-old candidate master in chess is no match to the mastery of Chloe. This is not even close. She's a star, one of the best in the world regardless of age.
Never let anyone else control your life. Even if you are a star in the spotlight with many business men on your tail you can never let them push you. There is no reason not even money to feel like someone else should have the right to control your life. Whether that be soling for concerts or going to chess tournaments. I don't think fame is worth feeling bad about your life.
This is very insightful! Of course, I think it’s important to keep in mind that these “prodigies” need to practice the same amount a normal human being would to attain their level of professionalism :) they’re just willing to sacrifice more time!
I feel so personally affected by this video. Mostly I'm known along the lines of "Oh yeah, he's the guy who does Violin and Chess, or Chess and Violin." Of course, I am nowhere near as good as Chloe or Go Zi Han, but I find it so unbelievable that I can really watch this video with experience from both sides of the story, of course not extreme expertise in either, but quite a lot of experience in both. I see the Majority of people being like "Oh yeah, I play Chess, Go Zi Han is really good" and "Oh yeah, I know Chloe (from Twoset probably) and she's really amazing." They are both such amazing talents and they both deserve a million congratulations.
When I practice 3 hours a day my fingertip skin peels off and string grooves form in my fingers... Her still with perfect fingers while practicing 5-6 hours a day
that's actually a natural-ish byproduct of practising really long and hard on any instrument like the violin or viola.... though it definitely depends on the shape and design of the violin, because ive been a violinist for 12 years and i never had that problem. but it is painful!
@@つばき-o8m No. 😡 I'm a father my son is 1st violin 1st chair in a youth orchestra he does not have those marks. Sorry, I'm just not going to accept that it's normal.
youre hilarious, kid. youre so far on the left of a dunning kruger curve that most of us feel genuine pity for you. in terms of chess vs violin: statistically, a "gifted" kid has a much, much, MUCH much much higher chance of becoming a Great violinist than of becoming a Great chess player. at 13 and rated 2100+, Zi Han is only average amongst what many would call chess prodigies. yet the number of people who attempt to explore a talent at chess ridiculously and vastly outnumber those for violin.
Why do people send kids to do classical music, when we know very few people listen and enjoy classical symphony today. Fo me at least, sympohonies are bland and just plain boring.
Seriously? "Why do we send kids to do basketball, football, netball, volleyball, softball or any sports at all because I just find it bland and plain boring. Why do we send kids to do art, or music, or chess, or maths, or reading, or writing, because to me they're just plain boring."
I've heard Chloe Chua play, and she really is amazing. What is clear to me is that these two teens have immense potential to go really really far in their respective arts. What they need is essentially more time to devote to their art, in order to hone their abilities and develop their undeniable talent and potential to the maximum. I see a common obstacle in their path, their mainstream studies. If our education system can be flexible enough, they'd definitely flourish. Perhaps teenage prodigies like them could be given the leeway to follow a different timetable for their mainstream studies. We don't want them to drop out of school, neither do we want them to drop their pursuit of their artistic talents. So for eg, instead of taking the PSLE at age 12 in Primary Six, or GCE O levels at 16 or 18, perhaps outstanding prodigies like them can be allowed to take less subjects each year, and take the milestone exams at a much later age.
If our education system can allow for such, Singapore can realistically have world champions in many of these arts industry. That would really put Singapore on the world map for arts and culture. And if these Singapore talents decide to, or have to, pursue something more mainstream later in their lives, they still have the typical paper qualifications to fall back on. I really hope to see them go all the way and make their name on the world stage. Especially Chloe Chua, as I'm a classical music lover. I can't imagine the day when Singapore has a world-renowned, multiple award-winning soloist. Speechless.
Nobody asked you to write a novel.
@@Dynamatrix2000 Nobody asked you to read.
I agree. Singapore’s education system, while having helped boost our economy tremendously, should place a greater focus on the arts and sports too. There are young people in Singapore who have the dream and the ability as well to go on and become professionals or even prodigies if only our education system would allow them to. Sadly most who want to pursue the arts are told to give it up because arts has “no future” in Singapore, even if they actually have the talent and are willing to put in the hard work required. Yes, subjects like math, science and English are indeed very important, but arts should be held to a higher standard too. Only with a change in mindset of Singaporeans as a whole and with a change in the education system’s focus to not solely be on grades can Singapore nurture more rising talents in the arts and in the sports sector. Kids should be given a choice if they want to continue the conventional study path or pursue something else instead, and pursuing arts and sports i something that should be encouraged more.
Zi Han has essentially zero chance of going far in chess. Chess is devastatingly difficult, and devastatingly popular (meaning that enough people are interested in it that statistically, the strength of the top players who can emerge amongst these large numbers of players are so unhuman that it is statistically improbable for any given individual to be amongst them).
At 13 and 2100+, Zi Han, although he would beat me even if drunk and 5 minutes to 1 minute, is still not really on track to make more money than a security guard from chess. On the other hand, where his standard education trajectory is is an entirely different story.
Consider holistically the full environment of facts before making suggestions that sound appealing to the choir here that wants to be preached on how stifling our education system is. Or you end up hurting what you wanted to protect.
The similarity is that they are both asians.
I think a common trait is that these prodigies are in certain ways much more mature than their ages generally predict. They have a deep understanding of what's important to them and what they need to do to achieve their goals in the future, and they are willing to sacrifice to attain them. Most kids and teens never think about that stuff, they just want to have fun and enjoy life in the present.
They also have very good memory and executive thinking capabilities.
They are having fun and enjoying life in the present too 😂
First saw Chloe on twoset violin, as their teacher.. and instantly loved her.., though i know she practice 40hrs a day but im a little concerned on her bruise. Hope these kids realize their dreams in life.
sometimes, when you play the violin a lot, you get a bruise under your chin so it’s kinda natural for some violinists to have that.
Most violonists I know have that bruise, me included, and it doesn't hurt at all, don't worry. It just appears naturally, after rubbing the same piece of skin everyday.
Put a cloth on your violin. A violin hickey is gross and so is all the grime from your face onto your chin rest accumulating
as their “teacher”. no way chloe is better than twoset violin. though chloe is considered as a prodigy, she is considered one of the best compared to people her age but never better than a professional that has been classically trained for 20+ years
40 hours a day?
If you include "Chloe Chua" in the video title and photo thumbnail, this video will have 100k views in no time.
12:45 every violinist actually takes so much pride in having this bruise though. If you get lazy the bruise will go away, and Chloe seems afraid of that haha
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Amazing dedication and hard work from both Goh Zi Han and Chloe Chua! They really deserve their respect and where they are now. One thing to mention is that socialising with peers the same age as you is very crucial to the development of your social life and health in general that shouldn’t be neglected even with prodigies!
Life is not always about winning. With such long hours of practice daily and losing out living a normal childhood I hope these kids enjoying doing it.
Yeah I agree. And Life is really unfair because we cannot enjoy and benefit both, we will only choose one where our heart and passion is
As a chess player, it's hard to juggle schoolwork, chess, and after-school activities, which is really fascinating to see Goh Zi Han managing his time wisely to choose between chess and school.
For chess buffs who don't know anything about violin.
Chloe is Magnus Carlsen.
Lmao
Magnus is the best chess player alive. Chloe is not the best violinist alive. Your comparison is way off
@@Numberonesorabjifan
Obviously, I was referring to Magnus-at-15.
for those who are wondering, magnus became a grandmaster at 13 years old, which is crazy.
These kids have great parents ❤️
Indeed... parents who know their children very well and has been recognised their talent. Didn't push them to become a doctor or an enhineer or something else that usually parents are expecting from their children.
no they got great money
@@puddinzzzzzzz Yeah, because money buys skill and talent, not practice and repetition.
@@toastedgrapes7961 actually you need money to afford a good teacher and violin.
@@juliejules7780 Oh wow in MMA Islam Makhachev and Khabib from a Dagestan Mountain wipe out everyone in the UFC so yeah they are rich from young as far as I am concerned
Chloe Chua is the real deal... saw her randomly on Twosetviolin, and she blew my mind
Im a fan of chloe, first time hearing abt the boy, gotta watch some of his games.
whats her socials
Amazing and interesting series. Always good to see the behavior and mindset of these prodigious kids
my jaw dropped at 5:27 , whilst I have no idea of how hard it is to play 16th or 32th notes on violin, but getting the rhythm down for 16th notes, at least for me, is very hard (should prolly practice w a metronome more ngl) and it was a jump scare to me, and while writing this I saw the extra bar and I can't imagen the sheer amount of experience Chole Chua has and how much she has practiced, And we are around the same age too!
What instrument do you play?
he is such a great kid with obviously good mentors. I hope he teaches the future generation of malaysian chess gms.
I came here for CHLOE!!!
I wish i had parents like these kids that actually cared and invested in my interests as a child.
May you two lead a brighter future.
Chloe’s Paganiniana is the most insane thing I’ve seen a 15 yo do.
Chloe was 13 in that video!
Chloeeeee, we love you
TwoSet should bring Hilary Hahn and Chloe Chua meet on their channel!!
A 13-year-old candidate master in chess is no match to the mastery of Chloe. This is not even close. She's a star, one of the best in the world regardless of age.
gotta say, one of these kids is much more impressive than the other
and who would that be?
@@epointerwinboie chloe
@@jacobrubanov4932 thats the right answer 😹
who?
Ohhhh both of them are great Ling ling insurance
Well done kids and kudos to their dedicated parents!
*Rich parents.
@@slaiyfershin Shut up bitch. Chloe stayed in an hdb flat ok. Ik u r jealous ok.
@@slaiyfershin frfrfrfrffrfrfrfrrrrrfrrffrfrfrffrfrffrfrrfff
*Both dedicated & rich
@@sumguy8939 Wdym rich Chloe stays in a hdb flat. Ik her since p1 lol
I'm glad she has a good circle of friends around her. Live your life Chloe!
Zi han speaks like an adult, so impressed by his intelligence!
Never let anyone else control your life. Even if you are a star in the spotlight with many business men on your tail you can never let them push you. There is no reason not even money to feel like someone else should have the right to control your life. Whether that be soling for concerts or going to chess tournaments. I don't think fame is worth feeling bad about your life.
The boy seem like a chess movie I've been saw and admiring , Queen Gambit
This is very insightful! Of course, I think it’s important to keep in mind that these “prodigies” need to practice the same amount a normal human being would to attain their level of professionalism :) they’re just willing to sacrifice more time!
I would have more time to practice if I didn't have to work 50 hours a week to make a living.
@@juliejules7780 Oof! Must be rough :,) Hopefully you'll have more time in the future!
10:52 practicing "Tchaikovsky: Meditation d-mol, op. 42"
Go Zi Han Goh, he is the best young star in chess i know!
19:57 auto generated captions said "but I can't kill a dog because I don't have time"
Hey that’s Chloe! I’ve seen her in two set!
I feel so personally affected by this video. Mostly I'm known along the lines of "Oh yeah, he's the guy who does Violin and Chess, or Chess and Violin." Of course, I am nowhere near as good as Chloe or Go Zi Han, but I find it so unbelievable that I can really watch this video with experience from both sides of the story, of course not extreme expertise in either, but quite a lot of experience in both. I see the Majority of people being like "Oh yeah, I play Chess, Go Zi Han is really good" and "Oh yeah, I know Chloe (from Twoset probably) and she's really amazing." They are both such amazing talents and they both deserve a million congratulations.
But first, without dedicated parents, these two exceptional people would not have been able to pursue what they wanted to.
When I this program, the word as the Chess Coach said... "Sacrifice".. I think CC and Chess Dude will do well if they continue the path of sacrifice..
Canada, felicitation, all the best for those magnifique talented Young teen. Also the dedication of paren ts.
Lovely video, Chloe is amazing!
this video after chloe on twoset hahaha
In 3:16 ,it looks like it is some murder case or something lol.
I play chess a lot and also play violin at a relatively high level. This is the vid for me lol
aw man im screwed
3:03 6:57 10:50 18:58 22:20
When I practice 3 hours a day my fingertip skin peels off and string grooves form in my fingers... Her still with perfect fingers while practicing 5-6 hours a day
This is the kid your asian parents were comparing you to:
2:15 his father doraemon shirt very cute
Zi Han it’s possible. U need to sacrifice school CCA and school and concentrate on chess, and maybe just do home schooling.
8:14 WOW
If you want to be the best, you have to work 48 hours a day
Rookie numbers. You need to work 72 plus covid vaccinated 5 times
@@garyhuang11 ugh. You antivaxxers are the worst. Pathetic
And have rich parents
you mean 44 hours (twoset violin joke)
I don't know if you're referencing TwoSetViolin. But that's 40 hours a day.
I guess I'm useless
I also like chess
casually watching these kids my age who've gone much further than me 🥲
12:21 does anyone why it is counterproductive?
zi han using his chess skills to raise money for ukraine is so honorable. kudos to him
Bro I need tips form him
11th October 2022
Goh Zi Han 13 (2009)
Chloe Chua 15 (2007)
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Singapore's a bad*ss place....
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At 0:17 she said F U to everybody.
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Wow, I am unsure how to feel. Chloe Chua has the meanest looking bruise on her neck near her jawline. @ 11:39 Pain for music?
that's actually a natural-ish byproduct of practising really long and hard on any instrument like the violin or viola.... though it definitely depends on the shape and design of the violin, because ive been a violinist for 12 years and i never had that problem. but it is painful!
every single person that has played the violin for a significant amount of time has it
@@つばき-o8m No. 😡 I'm a father my son is 1st violin 1st chair in a youth orchestra he does not have those marks. Sorry, I'm just not going to accept that it's normal.
@@drybloodpatches6110
Your son has not practiced 5 hours a day since he was 4 (the going rate for a prodigy).
@@jackburgess274 How do you know this? Show me your sources, what make your comment true?
They Asian
Average asian
average asians
Chess skills are overrated and does not translate to real life smarts
They still earn more than you sitting in your mommy's basement.
he’s in raffles though LMAO meaning his PSLE ranked top in singapore
youre hilarious, kid. youre so far on the left of a dunning kruger curve that most of us feel genuine pity for you.
in terms of chess vs violin:
statistically, a "gifted" kid has a much, much, MUCH much much higher chance of becoming a Great violinist than of becoming a Great chess player. at 13 and rated 2100+, Zi Han is only average amongst what many would call chess prodigies. yet the number of people who attempt to explore a talent at chess ridiculously and vastly outnumber those for violin.
@@shucklesors
WH is quite right. Chess skills do not translate into "real life smarts."
Why do people send kids to do classical music, when we know very few people listen and enjoy classical symphony today. Fo me at least, sympohonies are bland and just plain boring.
Well SHE enjoyes it. So that's all that matters.
Seriously?
"Why do we send kids to do basketball, football, netball, volleyball, softball or any sports at all because I just find it bland and plain boring. Why do we send kids to do art, or music, or chess, or maths, or reading, or writing, because to me they're just plain boring."