I FAILED At Dynoing The Turbo SHELBY DODGE RAMPAGE But I Did FIX It
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- Ready to see some horsepower numbers out of the Shelby Dodge Rampage sport truck? Wondering if it makes more or less than 150HP after all these years? So was I, but it wasn't meant to happen! I wanted to get a baseline while I sort out the little issues but we couldn't find the hub adapters for the chassis dyno. Still ended up being a productive day, changed the plugs and found a nice rubber valve cover gasket for the truck. Hopefully it's oil leaking days are over.
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I’ve been apart of the Shelby Dodge/Turbo Dodge community for a while. It’s so weird to see one of our cars finally make it on someone’s channel like this. Really special to me. Keep up the great work.
If the guy who cloned this Charger /Rampage was able to mount everything like the Shelby. The waste gate control solenoid is on the right inner fender by the strut tower. Chrysler 2.2 turbo was programmed to ramp up boost t o 10psi for a couple of seconds then drop it to 7psi. One old trick is to get a pressure switch and put inline to the waste gate control solenoid. Set the pressure switch to close at 10 to 14 psi. So when the ecm commands the waste gate to pull boost back it can't until the switch closes. Basically the switch will cycle keeping the boost to what ever you set it at. Of course you'll need larger injectors and air charge cooler too for prolong boost above 10psi.
Timothy Hays you should look in putting a blaster 2 coil in it with good wires I had custom MSD wires cut on my 87 turbo shadow you'll get a noticeable performance boost doing just that on the car.
Though if you want to go fast you going to have to find turbo 2 block for the better lower end in it.
Also match porting the head. All you need a Dremel I'm sure the outline on the head and exhaust port should be stained on the head. Pretty easy to do yourself if you don't want to spend professional money. Plus it's more fun doing it yourself...lol
Turbo 1 hahahaha if you own a turbo Chrysler you have to put the turbo 2 intake head studs and 20 pounds of boost and injectors ,but for the love of God get rid that shitty set up it's cost nothing for that intake and rails
non intercooled suck through wont quite like the 14psi.
I want to see lots of content on this. It's so off the wall and unique I like it and I'm a ford guy
am I the only one thinking about the late Gus Mahon when I see a chrysler turbo engine ?
It’s called a hub dyno.....
A simple cone filter would be a HUGE gain and sound cool!
And if you’re planning on running higher than 10# of boost,u need to gap your plugs down from 30 thousandths to 25 thousandths.
Definetly a cool useful vehicle! I’d love to own it for sure.
I daily drive an '85 shelby charger and I'm so excited to have some video resources of someone working on this engine! I'm losing a little bit of oil and I'm definitely going to try this gasket swap
I've also got an 84 rampage. Black 5 speed with 62,000. Glade to see another one running still.looking forward to seeing more rampage content.
I had Fiero Wheel on one of my Turbo Dodges back a few years ago. They are absolutely 5x100. I still have the wheels. LMK if you want them, I'll sell 'em cheap.
My granny had that motor in her Plymouth Caravelle. I drove it a few times, i was surprised how fast it was. Caravelle was a 4 door boxy "granny car"
I owned a 1983 Charger 2.2 - bought it new when I was 19. I wish I had kept that car!
You inspired me to change out my leaking valve cover gaskets.
You dont know how diehard of a cult following you tapped into. Lol not only are these videos gonna get a ton of likes. But youll probably get a ton of advice and messages. These guys are serious! thanks for the video
I put a couple gas cylinders from some hatchback on each side of the hood. Works great and much better than that PITA rod. That was a few years ago and they still work perfectly.
I don't know if you have stumbled upon this or not, but Donovan's Garage (thedodgegarage.com) has some good info on them. They were building turbo dodge vehicles in the early 2000's. They had a relant in the 10's reliably, and into the 9's a few times... and a 12 second turbo caravan. it's a great platform, with lots of potential. Just remember, the weak part is the trans, and if you hammer on it you risk throwing the pin out of the carrier on the back.
Jeff L needs a 555 swap or 568. But honestly even a 520 or 523 wouldn’t be too bad. Just need to cable swap it and weld a rear mount bracket on the k-member.
Had a 555 and a 2.5 turbo in my Voyager. Man that thing was fun. Have some old vids of it on my channel. Want another so bad!
Nice work John, you can’t go wrong with NGK & Felpro, I love those “perma dry” gaskets, I have them on my Town Car & they don’t even weep after 1.5yrs. I always end up working on cars at night too.
I’m loving this Rampage! Such a weird and cool car. I haven’t seen one on the road in 20 years. It’s great to see that this one is in good hands.
Great video J. I'm a diehard turbo Mopar guy with a 91 Dodge Spirit RT
I always loved the rampage.. cool little truck
High school pal had the 1984 Daytona Turbo-Z.... dial-a-boost worked well on it, as well as did fitting the 'Off-road' computer which would handle up to 14PSI of boost instead of 10, which was the limitation of the 'stock' computer. At 14 PSI with 500lbs of people in the car it STILL dusted mildly built 5.0L Rustangs... Also, you can readily improve transmission: we turned down a replacement pin in auto-shop class out of a grade 8 bolt to remove a bunch of the slop etc. It worked quite well! Had I not rear-ended his car shortly after our senior year was over, It would have still been on the road for a while longer...
Man I love that truck so so much I would give just about anything to have it that's a dream truck for sure!
Seriously. Every video I watch makes me want one too!
When changing plug wires pull cap to make sure wires *click* and the pointed contacts are all the way through cap. I fixed alot of misfires on those back then after customers didnt follow procedure. Weird wire ends. Im glad they only used that type on 2.2 and 2.5 4 cyls.
Nothing says date night like a trip to O'Reillys!!!!!! LOL! Good shit as normal.
Your valve cover was likely leaking due to pressure being built-up in the crankcase, via clogged PCV or vacuum hoses.
You can use a product called "high-tack gasket sealant" for the problem with the gasket placement, instead of the silicone or whatever that stuff was.
The blue ones are silicone and sooo much better!
I think your videos need more Amberghini.
I agree, she's in today's 🍻
I miss my 86' Shelby Charger. That was a badass little car. Bought it brand new factory direct while stationed in W Germany.
Gutted it never got dyno’d. Love this truck, much more exciting than the Audi if I’m honest
Cork gaskets work fine as long as you use Permatex #2 Non-hardening. The thinnest of layers on both sides of the gasket and it will never leak. Silicone RTV sealant is for kitchen and bath...has no place on an automobile.
I remember David’s farm had a wagon with a swapped in Shelby drivetrain. He had done some mods to it. I’m sure the vids are around somewhere.
If I had this car it would be my daily driver. I loved my 87 charger. it would be a hoot to drive that around. Though the north east winters would kill it...
Thats 5x100. Not 5x115. They didn't even make those wheels in 5x115. Also there are 2 different styles of valve covers. one piece and 2 piece gaskets. 2 pieces are the old style valvecover. 1 piece are new style. U more than likely have a 2 piece gasket which used silicone and the rubber ends from factory. The one piece has a deeper channel for the 1 piece gasket and is only for it. Using a 1 piece gasket on a 2 piece valve cover will more than likely break it at the corners of the valve cover...
It sure is, I Googled Shelby Charger bolt pattern... apparently I found the wrong info (either way, they didn't have a hub adapter for it) 🤙
I read about possibly bending the valve cover on turbododge, that's why I ended up going with hand tight.
@@WatchJRGo Hit up turbo-mopar as well. Their both great forums with a ton of info. If u have any other questions u can ask me if ud like.
Yeah you have the wrong gasket. And it will crack over time even hand tight. What you really want is Mopar performance silicone. If you clean it well and lay it on right, it will seal extremely well. It won’t leak a drop. It will literally suction cup onto the head. I promise. Mopar Silicone.
89+ were one piece. Hard to know what year your engine was out of unless you have info from the previous owner.
aaron71 the valve cover clearly does not have the channel for the gasket.
JR! Maybe you should collaborate with Hoovie and teach him how to buy cars! I love Hoovie don't get me wrong and he buys very desirable marques. But he always finds the demons in the inventory. I recently subscribed to your channel and the two vehicles you've bought, the EXP and this Shelby Rampage are vehicles I'd love to have to boot around with. Actually I'd love to build an LS powered SW20 MR2. One day!
They did a collaboration on both of their Range Rovers. Which I think Hoovies was slightly less terrible. But JR sold his and Hoovie Buried his.
I did watch that video. I was thinking more a video where JR shows Hoovie how he finds cars. Although yesterday Hoovie said no new cars in '19.
To prevent cracking and torque properly go center out then center again. Hope this helps.
Loving the content lately! Keep up the good work!
a Torque wrench is used to fine adjust the torque not use as a substitute for a normal ratchet. . Spin the bolt down to its snug then use the TW.. oh well
I totally understand when to use a torque wrench, it felt snug then the gasket kept crushing down. 🍻
The Dodge Rampage is so unique and different. Grab you a Subaru Brat for your next project. They're cool vehicles also!
I think I like this weird car truck
I had the Plymouth Scamp version of this car. It was the worst car I ever owned. I replaced the smog pump, entire exhaust, valve cover gasket (it still leaked), and carburetor (three times and it always ran different) but there were no adjustments on the carb and nobody knew how to deal with it... a computer controlled carburetor?? Eventually I sold it. There was a junk yard near in Phoenix where they seemed to be collecting them. They had about 5 or 6 cars untouched, back in 2009.
please do another Fiero video!
Those parts are waiting for me at O'Reillys, I need to get on that. Very soon! 🍻
@@WatchJRGo cool, thanks
Good idea to swap to copper plugs . I used to tinker with 2.3l 8v 4cyl Volvo turbo cars and they run great on ngk copper plugs.
Love your vids as usual
Thanks! Glad you're here 🍻
Love these videos.. keep up the good work .
Just give it a modular 4.3! give it what it deserves!
Like others have said.....wrong gasket. You can probably find a nice one piece valve cover online for cheap. I have one lying around myself I will never use. I'm guessing for the dyno, you'll be surprised to find out you make more torque than horsepower. I'm thinking around 145-150 wheel hp and around 190-220 WTQ.
I hope those are the numbers, would put a huge smile on my face! I read quite a bit about it on turbododge before buying that gasket, it fits, just not perfectly. Would love have the later valve cover but I'd have to powdercoat it red to match. Happy New Year 🥳
@@WatchJRGo Happy New year!
It would definitely look silly but how awesome would it be to put a fifth wheel hitch on that and pull a small trailer? Ha ha couldn't pull much but maybe a John deer 317 would look good behind it.
Someone bubbaed that VC with RTV instead of using a gasket... makes me wonder what other shortcuts they took..
Well I read more posts on the forums, apparently Dodge also did an RTV only install for a few of the years. Either way, no more leaks from this one! 🍻
I have worked on lot's of cars and the only thing I use a torque wrench for are the heads
wish the autozones around me stayed open til midnight....I have to rush it before 9pm
All of our 2.2 valve covers got rtv sealant, no actual gasket!!!
How about an update on the S type R?
Also put a hitch on it and go on a road trip next time you go pick up another vehicle
Would be awesome, not sure this is the truck for towing though 😂
@@WatchJRGo ya never know I have a 99 s10 manual with a 2.2l 4cylinder and i flat towed a 2014 civic across 4 states
Rampage!!!!
@@halfassgarage9650 You have such great towing advantages with that truck over a Rampage though, like.... a frame.
WatchJRGo Buy a Crosley, I love them & they are only 12ft long, you could tow it home with the Rampage no prob.(-;
Gap should be tighter I run .20 on my 4g63
Chrysler turbo cars with stock ignition hate anything but copper core. Generally gapped to 35 thousands. The wheels are 5x100. The oil leak is imparitive to get cleaned as the turbo likes to ignite that also many engine fires are known to be caused by leaky p.s. lines too close to turbo.
Nice! Happy New Year!
Thank you, Happy New Year to you! 🥳
this is a roadkill moment if ever i've seen one
Good luck with the truck, if you have a chance I have a short video on my channel if my 87 charger.
My God..move the lawnmower. That would drive me nuts !!!
Some engines do not like platinum plugs,
My old Jeeps are like that, they run better with regular copper plugs...
I always put coppers in turbo cars 🍻
I have been building and running Turbo Dodges since they were new and I am the former Manager of the Mopar Tech Hotline. Nothing runs better than the plain 'ole stock Champion RN12YCs in a 2.2/2.5 Turbo.
I have Bosch Platinum plus 4 in my 89 Ford F-250 with the 351w small block n have had any issue with them
My 86 Fiero GT would not run with platinum plugs. As soon as I put Copper plugs in it ran like there was no tomorrow!
have i got a 2.2 shelby turbo engine for you when your ready
Mine fouled the sparkplug furthest to the right almost daily.
Crazy, I wonder if there was an issue with that cylinder 😮
I need a garage tv. And a Shelby Rampage.
Liked!! Happy New Years
Had to laugh when you said there's oil every where ,you'd be in trouble if there wasn't
LOL! I meant outside the engine 😬
Auto zone open till 12:00 pm ?do u live in Las Vegas???
Nah, Wichita but this is the hub store. Pretty great... O'Reilly's normally closes at 9PM, the hub closes at 10 PM, the AutoZone hub closes at 12AM, almost always have parts! 🍻
The Buffalo NY store on Goundry St is a 24 hour store.
We have a few that are open 24 hours. Its nice when a part must be had in the wee hours
You guys are all so lucky. In Australia they are all closed by 5pm and some still don't trade sundays.
Im diggin the car/truck.
Nice, I have an 86 Shelby Charger that I bought new, 14K on her. I'm liking your vids. Keep up the great work, Dave.
What kind of dyno doesn't have 5x100 adapters...That's even an early small bolt pattern for the 70s dodges.
Should be 5x100, same bolt pattern as the Fiero, I've seen several people use those wheels on Fiero Indy Pace Cars. Also same bolt pattern as the older Subaru WRX, so odd a dyno shop wouldn't have that adapter unless they mainly do muscle cars?
Should check them out again, it may be that they have a 5x100 adapter but it didn't fit over the hub collar.
I sold a Dodge @2.2 turbo with 98k miles for $100! What a sucker
Lug pattern is 5x100 same as the neons
I bought an 83 scamp I was thinking of putting a 92 SPIRIT RT MOTOR AND TRANS IN IT
Interesting upload time
Yeah cork gaskets are crap, always get rubber valve cover gaskets and never regret!
Pity you couldn't get any numbers out of it yet, it seems promising!
get a old mini cooper next
Wrong gasket dude. The valve cover is different in 89 and up. Made for 1 piece gasket.
The cork gaskets work good as well but if u over tight one bolt that's enough for a leak but I'll go with the rubber too is way easier but for some cars is hard to find the rubber gasket I have a '87 Nissan d21 with Z24 so is a mission to find parts lol
Tuka Mote the rubber is for the later valve covers. They have a channel designed for it to fit into. He has an old style valve cover. The gasket will crack the valve cover over time. Even hand tight. He needs to use Mopar Performance Silicone. It works absolutely perfect.
@@SillyDillysTunes Napa has good sealants that you can't find in other stores I can't remember the name of it
Tuka Mote I haven’t found one as resistant to oil. I’m giving him a for sure fix.
Ahhh back when engines we're easier to work on...
How is the EXP coming along?
Parts are shipping in from Burton Power in Europe 🍻
Is the exp with the car wizard?
@@KP-er4ys yes it is with the Car Wizard if you watch a couple of his recent videos you'll see the EXP in the background
Jonathan Magness also in Hoovie's video about the Delorean
I've heard turbo engines love copper plugs
Any progress about Ford EXP yet?
How is the Fiero coming?
If you can't find a 3/8" ratchet, you seriously need to buy more tools. I have like 10 of those of varying quality and features. Or maybe you just need to organize your tools. In all honesty, not being able to find a tool when you need it is amateur hour.
Damn that amt fair at all I wished my AutoZone down here stayed open that late mine closes at like 9pm and that's winter hours then like summer it's 10pm but hell 12:00 at night hell yeah lol I really wished mine did that late and too I always try to run NGK spark plugs in my what a difference from using other plugs to NGK spark plugs I'll always use those they seem to be the best to me and they usually make an improvement to as well run better job better more power or seems like more power . 🛠
CD'S Automotive & Repair shit, in ARKANSAS, ours closes at 8!!
@@NarxolepticCustoms oh damn yeah shit man that's awful I mean I work on vehicles late at night sometimes or what if I break down you know and I need to go to the parts store to get something and then I can't until the next freaking morning I think it's stupid they need to stay open at least till 12 or something like that that'd be awesome and I wish they had more stuff in stock lol seems like I always gotta order something and ours down here is Monday-friday they close at 9pm winter hours and Saturday's 9 PM and sundays at 8pm and then summer hours is Monday-friday 10pm and saturday 9 PM and Sunday 8 PM lol but stupid part is O'Reilly's stays open to 10pm winter hours and 10pm summer too lol it's messed up but now they changed and they are doing like autozone . and I live in north Carolina lincolnton
The main warehouse store here in Buffalo NY is 24 hours.
Dump valve???😉
I want to see someone convert one of those to RWD with a HEMI over the back wheels....
There is only one spark plug in this world....NGK.
I own one.
Awesome, an 82?
@@WatchJRGo Mine is an '83. It's a Rampage GT, black with red interior, 2.2L, 5-speed manual, A/C, cruise control, AM/FM/cassette. It's NOT rotten/rusty, like most are at this age. And it's not been screwed with. I'm restoring it now; returning it to original condition to make it a high MPG driver.
I'll say it one more time ,gain 100 horsepower with junkyard intake and fuel rails
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Do you use an external mic
Yup, Rode VideoMicro 🍻
WatchJRGo can you send me a pic of your setup I want to step my channel quaulity up and I like yours!
Yeah you have the wrong gasket. And it will crack over time even hand tight. What you really want is Mopar performance silicone. If you clean it well and lay it on right, it will seal extremely well. It won’t leak a drop. It will literally suction cup onto the head. I promise. Mopar Silicone.
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Check out this page. I used this page a lot when I had my Turbo Daytonas. www.gusmahon.org/html/boostcontrol.htm. Gus was the king when it came to these 2.2 and 2.5's. He unfortunately lost his life 10 years ago or so in a motorcycle accident.
This will show you how to build the Grainger valve to control your boost. I built one for mine and it worked great. You can also buy them in a kit here, turbododgeparts.com/html/grainger_valves.html.
My guess is 160 when you find a dyno.
How can you work in that mess? no wonder you can find your tools. just sayin..............................
It's really just that Honda push mower that's in the way, can't bear to get rid of the thing and no place for it to go 😂
*273 V8 swap it.* 😅
It’s a good idea to use loctite on the valve cover bolts
Check out Gary's site www.thedodgegarage.com he has a ton of info on the 2.2 2.5 SOHC FWD Mopar's. You can get allot of help on www.turbo-mopar.com and allot of performance stuff for the sohc Mopars from Cindy from www.fwdperformance.com I'm a turbo mopar guy from Kansas also if you ever need any help shoot me a message.
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Not one bit lol... it is literally called "I Failed At Dynoing the Rampage" 😂
@@WatchJRGo Salty comment gets shut down lol. You have some cool new classics! You know people will finally wake up about the Fiero when the mid-engine Corvettes are out. The damned thing had a modular body panel system, so updating the style is literally bolt-on. That rumor about engine fires was just that. The actual statistics are on par with industry averages.
Think about buying a salvage 3.4l engine and harness, preferably the turbo version. Same 60 degree block, direct bolt-in, but two incarnations above the 2.8. Hold on to that car, they're about to finally get more popular.