This slider does the job, but it's very rudimentary in terms of the app controls. I have the old version, with the KMS-S2 motor and controller, the problem is that it doesn't really affect my shutter speed on my Sony A6400. It shoots the picture, but not at the slider shutter speed, but my camera shutter speed. I tried changing the values but it does nothing, the A6400 still shoots at the settings i selected on the camera. I always set up the camera in manual mode and set my shutter speed, ISO and focus manually. The only thing that works is the duration. Also, no one mentions this but to set up the points A and B, the slider head needs to be on the left so it has enough travel to go to the right to get to your desired point B. If the slider head is at the far right end, and you set up point A, it doesn't allow you to move the slider head to the left, only to the right, essentially putting your point B in the same spot as your point A, so zero travel basically. It also does not save your last slider head position into memory. When you turn the slider on you always have to set up both point A and point B first, and then you can do other things. The navigation on the S2 device is very limited. Once you enter a submenu you cannot go back up one level, to the main menu. You have to turn the controller off and turn it on again, set up points A and B... At least in the app you can browse through the different screens easily. Just wanted to share so people know.
Interesting, I've never tried it for photography. Maybe the S3 motor would work better with your camera model? I've only this slider for video where I set it up for each shoot depending on the shot, product, size and so forth. For that type of use case those "limitations" won't affect the workflow. You should reach out to Knova about the stills side though. Maybe they'll have a solution for you.
Like I said in the video, It was the QR plate on the tripod that caused the bump. (3rd party 501 plate) It was to low and the head on that tripod is a bit bulky. So that plate didn't provide enough clearance on that bulky head.
Sorry, not heard of that issue so not sure what it means or what effect it has. I use the parallax bar quite frequently on this slider without any issues. It's a straight bar so the motion is linear across the slider. Hope this helps
Load wise it shouldn't be a problem, it's more about the support system. How sturdy the tripod is or whether there's a need to add either slider support arms or just a basic light stand as an extra point of contact for stability.
@@thomasfranssonthank you for replying 🙏 I was thinking about software capabilities as I have to admit that I am not sure how these things are communicating with each other. When you use the remote and control the slider, is the camera just obeying or how does it work? Perhaps a naive question. I could just imagine that for some reason lumix would have issues that a larger brand, say Sony or canon wouldn't have.
That's a great question! This and most models doesn't have any physical controls. The slider is all controlled with either a remote or smartphone app. On the Knova app you have a d-pad that let's you move the carriage to it's starting position. Then you hold down the d-pad button (in the app) to move the carriage to your end position. Ones you have this set you can then adjust the speed and whether you want one pass or a loop. If you prefer a slider with physical controls I can highly recommend you to check out these ones from Accsoon that I tested recently- th-cam.com/video/hK5-ntNScWA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IgcSNGU7sDJ-hgN0
When doing interviews with this slider, does the subject/interviewe need to be close to the camera or can you adjust the parallax so it rotates to fit how far the person is? Thinking of shooting interviews with long lenses like 85mm/100mm full frame with paralax
You can adjust the amount the camera will turn during its travel. The length of the slider itself will determine how far from your subject and the level of parallax effect you can obtain based on the distance to your subject and desired framing of your subject. A shorter slider like the one on the video will offer a more subtle effect. So I would opt for the 120cm version to give you more flexibility and framing options.
Hi Thomas, thank you for this video. Because of you I’d like to get one. May I please ask what the gear is that mounts between the slider and the camera (the piece of equipment with the handle) and if you used any extra hardware to mount your slider to a tripod? Thank you 🙂
Sure thing! The one I use in the video and for most slider shots is the smallrig video head with a leveling base - amzn.to/3XRx3KI It's nice to have more than one way to make fine adjustments to your camera ;) If you want something even more budget friendly I'm sure this one would be able to get the job done too - amzn.to/3TE3z0i Hope this helps But I'm sure something
By adjusting the middle rod will I be able to keep my subject within the rule of thirds for an interview setup?? Or will I need to buy the motorized head for that type of shot?
You can certainly make it work with the middle rod alone. The only difference I can think of would be that a motorized head might give you a bit more flexibility in some cases. But in the end it will still come down to placement of the slider and focal lenght.
Hi! Definitely, it can repeat motions and you can do multiple passes on a scene and change out details in the scene. For these sort of shots I do recommend using extra support for the slider either by using two stands or if you have it placed on a rigid surface.
Same as the ones before and I highlighted this with both text and a sound effect for each bump to make the bumps as clear as possible as I didn’t switch the qr-plate... "still got that janky plate" ;)
Yes you can! On the top of my head I can't remember the payloads for angled and vertical setup. But I'm pretty sure I included them in the video. It might be around 1kg or 2.2lbs for a complete vertical setup.
Yep, as there's two sets of wheels, one set for each side of the carriage that hits the bad qr-plate that I mention earlier in the video when the bumps shows up the first time because of the exact same reason. I believe I even highlighted the fact by adding a sound effect to each bump and a rather large text about still using the same bad plate for the shot you're referring to. The solution as mentioned is either another and better Manfrotto plate, or mounting the plate in the other direction if its a long and/or low plate. Or adding a cheese plate between the bad plate and slider to clear the wheels if this happens when using a single mounting point.
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Thank you for thereview. Informative, no waste of time with unnecessary stories, straight to the point. Appreciate it!
Thank you, I appreciate it
The color grading of this video is just 🤌
This slider does the job, but it's very rudimentary in terms of the app controls. I have the old version, with the KMS-S2 motor and controller, the problem is that it doesn't really affect my shutter speed on my Sony A6400. It shoots the picture, but not at the slider shutter speed, but my camera shutter speed. I tried changing the values but it does nothing, the A6400 still shoots at the settings i selected on the camera. I always set up the camera in manual mode and set my shutter speed, ISO and focus manually. The only thing that works is the duration.
Also, no one mentions this but to set up the points A and B, the slider head needs to be on the left so it has enough travel to go to the right to get to your desired point B. If the slider head is at the far right end, and you set up point A, it doesn't allow you to move the slider head to the left, only to the right, essentially putting your point B in the same spot as your point A, so zero travel basically.
It also does not save your last slider head position into memory. When you turn the slider on you always have to set up both point A and point B first, and then you can do other things.
The navigation on the S2 device is very limited. Once you enter a submenu you cannot go back up one level, to the main menu. You have to turn the controller off and turn it on again, set up points A and B... At least in the app you can browse through the different screens easily.
Just wanted to share so people know.
Interesting, I've never tried it for photography. Maybe the S3 motor would work better with your camera model?
I've only this slider for video where I set it up for each shoot depending on the shot, product, size and so forth. For that type of use case those "limitations" won't affect the workflow.
You should reach out to Knova about the stills side though. Maybe they'll have a solution for you.
Thank you for pointing these shortcomings.
Much appreciated info 🙏🙏
That’s the slider I’m looking for! Awesome
Awesome!
Nice vid I’m looking into one and might actually try this one. The sound test was impressive!
Thank you, it's a very quiet slider. Very happy with mine.
Great review, you have a nice voice as well!
Thank you kindly!
Great review as always 🤩 i am thinking to purchase this slider soon 😊.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
It's a great little gadget.
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Tack så mycket, kul att höra.
Thx for ya review, first! The „bump“ in traversal mode comes from what? From slider or one of your parts?
Like I said in the video, It was the QR plate on the tripod that caused the bump. (3rd party 501 plate)
It was to low and the head on that tripod is a bit bulky.
So that plate didn't provide enough clearance on that bulky head.
does this have the middle dead space when using the parallax bar like the GVM sliders were notorious force?
Sorry, not heard of that issue so not sure what it means or what effect it has.
I use the parallax bar quite frequently on this slider without any issues. It's a straight bar so the motion is linear across the slider.
Hope this helps
like 5:19 ..?
Any idea how well this works on a Lumix s5 mk1? Great review, no nonsense and very clear and informative. Thank you!
Load wise it shouldn't be a problem, it's more about the support system. How sturdy the tripod is or whether there's a need to add either slider support arms or just a basic light stand as an extra point of contact for stability.
@@thomasfranssonthank you for replying 🙏 I was thinking about software capabilities as I have to admit that I am not sure how these things are communicating with each other. When you use the remote and control the slider, is the camera just obeying or how does it work? Perhaps a naive question. I could just imagine that for some reason lumix would have issues that a larger brand, say Sony or canon wouldn't have.
That's a great question!
This and most models doesn't have any physical controls. The slider is all controlled with either a remote or smartphone app. On the Knova app you have a d-pad that let's you move the carriage to it's starting position. Then you hold down the d-pad button (in the app) to move the carriage to your end position. Ones you have this set you can then adjust the speed and whether you want one pass or a loop.
If you prefer a slider with physical controls I can highly recommend you to check out these ones from Accsoon that I tested recently- th-cam.com/video/hK5-ntNScWA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IgcSNGU7sDJ-hgN0
When doing interviews with this slider, does the subject/interviewe need to be close to the camera or can you adjust the parallax so it rotates to fit how far the person is? Thinking of shooting interviews with long lenses like 85mm/100mm full frame with paralax
You can adjust the amount the camera will turn during its travel.
The length of the slider itself will determine how far from your subject and the level of parallax effect you can obtain based on the distance to your subject and desired framing of your subject.
A shorter slider like the one on the video will offer a more subtle effect. So I would opt for the 120cm version to give you more flexibility and framing options.
Hi Thomas, thank you for this video. Because of you I’d like to get one. May I please ask what the gear is that mounts between the slider and the camera (the piece of equipment with the handle) and if you used any extra hardware to mount your slider to a tripod? Thank you 🙂
Sure thing!
The one I use in the video and for most slider shots is the smallrig video head with a leveling base - amzn.to/3XRx3KI
It's nice to have more than one way to make fine adjustments to your camera ;)
If you want something even more budget friendly I'm sure this one would be able to get the job done too - amzn.to/3TE3z0i
Hope this helps
But I'm sure something
By adjusting the middle rod will I be able to keep my subject within the rule of thirds for an interview setup?? Or will I need to buy the motorized head for that type of shot?
You can certainly make it work with the middle rod alone.
The only difference I can think of would be that a motorized head might give you a bit more flexibility in some cases.
But in the end it will still come down to placement of the slider and focal lenght.
@@thomasfransson Thank you!
You're most welcome
Hello! great review and info. Is this Slider useful for taking a motion control style shot? Greetings from Argentina
Hi!
Definitely, it can repeat motions and you can do multiple passes on a scene and change out details in the scene.
For these sort of shots I do recommend using extra support for the slider either by using two stands or if you have it placed on a rigid surface.
I need this ❤
Thanks!!
You're most welcome!
only I noticed two shocks at 5:18 ..?
Same as the ones before and I highlighted this with both text and a sound effect for each bump to make the bumps as clear as possible as I didn’t switch the qr-plate... "still got that janky plate" ;)
Hey great video! Could you use it vertically?
Yes you can!
On the top of my head I can't remember the payloads for angled and vertical setup. But I'm pretty sure I included them in the video. It might be around 1kg or 2.2lbs for a complete vertical setup.
do you control the slider using an app
Yes, there's no physical controls like on the Accsoon sliders th-cam.com/video/hK5-ntNScWA/w-d-xo.html
At 5´20" parallax the camera shakes twice!
Yep, as there's two sets of wheels, one set for each side of the carriage that hits the bad qr-plate that I mention earlier in the video when the bumps shows up the first time because of the exact same reason.
I believe I even highlighted the fact by adding a sound effect to each bump and a rather large text about still using the same bad plate for the shot you're referring to.
The solution as mentioned is either another and better Manfrotto plate, or mounting the plate in the other direction if its a long and/or low plate. Or adding a cheese plate between the bad plate and slider to clear the wheels if this happens when using a single mounting point.
@@thomasfransson thanks, i didn´t hear because I am peruvian and don´t speak english very well, sorry
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Indeed!
Budget friendly gear have come a long way in terms of quality