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- Prop testing Fury 3 blade 23 vs 24 pitch on the new Mercury 250 Pro XS 4 stroke. Both 70+ mph....also check the last couple minutes of the video for the coolest, cheapest upgrade to your boat electronics i have seen.
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Our ranger is a 2008 and didn't come from the factory with the jumper switch. We installed the tournament saver pro two years ago and it's awesome!! It feels so good to sit there and start it after it didn't want to start!
It just a starter solenoid you can buy for 10 bucks in a fancy metal case. I have one in my pontoon I use with a rocker switch to isolate the engine from the electrical system when left unattended
People are making their engines quiet but I love the noise of those engines.
I just like the sound of the start up especially of the mercury motor
HI Ken, you have been great to watch over the last couple years, I live in CA and just got a home on Athens, you will be welcome anytime.
Lake Athens?
@@KenSmithFishing Yes
@@KenSmithFishing Yes Ken, you would be welcome anytime.
I've never had a bass boat but if I did this would be one I'd buy. Looks so comfortable. And fast
And you are saying it's not a fast boat? 72mph. Looks pretty fast to me
Hey, maybe that's how I lost my hair! Doing about 23 mph in my 14' Duracraft 15 HP Johnson. Yep, that's what happened alright. You get 25-30 pounds of bass in there, it'll really slow down. That battery thingamajig good. I need.
For anyone with a Minn Kota trolling motor with integrated transducer (AKA US2 models): You can ONLY connect the "low side battery" as Minn Kota calls it to another battery system. This means to the boat battery or a device such as shown in Ken's video. The low side battery is the one that has the TM Ground connected to it. Connecting to any other battery in a 24V or 36V Minn Kota US2 system will likely blow the bonding wire fuse and could damage the motors electronics, so be careful when installing any such product of manually jumping an outboard. I'm not familiar with Motorguide, so can't speak about those systems. Under no circumstance should such a connection be left connected any longer than needed in an emergency. The isolation of the two systems is desirable for numerous technical reasons. The product reviewed is one way to have that isolation but also an emergency jump feature.
UPDATE: It is unclear to me if all Minn Kota motors have a bonding wire, or just the US2 models. My motors are US2, and their manuals do warn of the bonding wire issue. I don't know what the manual for non-US2 models says - they could be the same. Check your motor manual regardless of model just to be sure.
Great tip, thanks for adding
Done!
The battery switch thing looks like what we call a parallel switch in the offshore world. Most offshore boats have them for the same reason
I’d never seen one, really cool feature.
that smaller dog looked like he was having the time of his life lol
Thank you, ohh shut... that sound makes me laugh every time I hear it. Wow, I can wait....
Please be safe out there and may God and Mary bless you all. Happy Thanksgiving.
Sounds sweet when it starts.
What? not a go fast boat! That boats sick. Two thumbs up!!!
not bad at all I get 78 fully loaded with a 27 p custom worked razor prop on my bass cat
The term for that is “scary fast”....
I like the battery jumper. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Ken, have you given the Tempest Plus a shot? I'm running the same motor on a Triton SF-21 with a 24p Tempest Plus. My top speed is about the same, but my hole shot is much stronger, and that's with two people, full livewell, full ice chest (6 bags of ice), and 40 gallons of fuel. I tried a 23p Fury and it was much slower for me. Of course, being a F/S, I probably benefit more from the bow lift of the Tempest.
I haven’t, when I settle on a boat I’m going to run tempest, fury and bravo in several configurations and try to get a full understanding of difference and of course share what I find
Hi ken what about fitting a small solar panel and charge controler for a trickle charge to keep your battery topped up, very inexpensive to fit.
So after a bit of time, what prop are you running today?
Fury 23p 3 blade, best overall for how I load. 24p 3 blade a little faster but lose some hole shot and rough water nose control
You have a nice rig!
Hello Ken .. Iam Hassan from Dubai
I have 31 ft gulf craft wight around 4000 pounds with twin F300 Yamaha motor i did WOT with 19 pitch 15 1/4 Diameter Yamaha propeller RPM 6150 mph 59 then I switch the propeller to 23 pitch mercury plus 14.6 diameter RPM 5700 mph 63.5 and my question please what propeller I should try to increase top end speed like 68-70 mph ? For example tempest 23? Or others?
Hassan I replied to your email, glad to try to help!
65 is fast 72 I thought you said that it wasn't a fast boat I'm game for that
Is there a reason why you did not do your testing with a full tank of fuel and full live wells?
Charles I’ve played with it since under lots of loads and temp, feel 24p 4 blade fury is best I’ve run so far
Thank you.
You better slow down while you still have some hair left! Just kidding, right there with you. New subscriber, enjoying your videos.
Thanks Tim and welcome to the KSF family!
Good lord I wouldn't want to hit the water at that speed 😂 wonder how many fish u passed up? 😂
He's testing props u moron, not fishing. Get a clue...
Plenty Fast! Good video! 👍🏻🎣🏆
Ken Smith, I'm hearing that you need to have a G3 mercury computer hooked up while trying different props? I really hope this isn't a fact.
I’ve been trying different ones w no problems??
This is what I'm hearing from a Mercury forum. They claim it's for the adaptive speed control settings. Sounds like a bunch of BS too me.
So I've been reading up on this and it's true. The computer will pull back the timing if it senses something different in the propping. You might want to talk with the Mercury dealer to insure your motor is properly setup.
Dear Sir ... I am thinking of purchasing the 225 version of your engine . Out of plain curiosity is it possible to try a top speed run with the 24p fury with your boat as light as possible ? I want to see if it will get close to 6300 and 75+ mph
The owners manual says 6200 is motor max rpm. Remember the smallest V8 is 250, there is a 225 4 stroke, but I believe it is a v6. We will get it out in next few weeks on a better day and see what we can get out of it.
The Pro-XS version of the 225 is the V8. Its just been detuned slightly.
Matt Newsom any idea what the true hp is for the 250? Ex the 2 stroke pro xs has always been a little more than the 250 on cowling
Megaware keel guard for mercury250pro SX 2 stroke
If you ever run an Allison XB21, you'll cuss that Ranger in rough water.
Haha s challenge!!!
Hi Ken, thank you for the new Mercury performance stats on your Z521. Can I ask, what are the stats you capture with a full tournament load ie partner, full of gas and with live wells loaded? Was your last boat a 521 and can you give a comparison with a Mercury Optimax if that’s what you had on the back please.
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That’s fast!!!
its ok thanks
What steering wheel is on that boat i want to get one
Stock!
Love it! My dad doesn't want to admit they are faster lol.
Ha tell pop...sorry to disappoint!
Ken Smith Yep people complain that they can’t buy a optimax anymore I guess because that is what they are used to. But the Fourstrokes make the same amount of power,have more torque, and weigh the same. So the Fourstroke is the only option on the water. But the 18 optimax motors are de tuned so they might be slower then the 17 2 strokes.
What do you consider fast then good sir?
There are lots of go fast boats that run up in the 70’s, to me anything 75+ is booking it!
Ken Smith went out on my buddys boat, he hit 77 but no wind and it was like glass. Thats an intense feeling.
nice spead ! Regards from Ireland
Nice Boat
But I think I would want a WINDSHIELD...
It has one
Ha Ok well here in Mobile Al Bass Fishing is the worse Fisheries we have.
Offshore & Inshore Fishing is Great but Bass well just not good in my opinion.
So I don't have a application for Bass Boats. I am not able to do much of anything now. But Commercial Snapper' King' Tuna' Night Diving for Flounder'
Ect Ect is what my family does. so I am a CAPE HORN owner
& My Bay Boat is a 21 SUNDANCE. Boats you can pass down to your Grandchildren...
Cape Horn is the Best Boats I have ever seen... But if you Bass Fish I like you am old & Ranger would be a Boat I would consider 👍
Great Editing
Enjoy that Nice Boat
i tought that 4 stroke have more torque than 2 stroke , why is it that the 4 stroke it s just turning a 23p prop ,my 225 opti 2 stroke used to turn a 25 p, is it difference in gear ratios ? thanks
Maurizio I believe same gear ratio, motor best turns a 24, but lot of other factors, main one being boat, most guys running Basscats and other go fast boats turning 25’s, remember I’m running long wide boat.
Maurizio I believe same gear ratio, motor best turns a 24, but lot of other factors, main one being boat, most guys running Basscats and other go fast boats turning 25’s, remember I’m running long wide boat.
@@KenSmithFishing thanks for your reply , good video btw :)
I fish toledo too
Flying!!
Apparently Ken does not know that a Fury prop run 1inch high in pitch and for a 24 pitch Fury should be loaded in a prop slip calculator as a 25 pitch and not as a 24. He would see that his prop slip less than 10%, which is real good, and not the 5.?? that he flash up on the screen. That level of slip is damn near impossible to achieve in a heavy bass boat, possibly in the light go fast bass. Just need to know the characteristic of the prop that he has.
Good info, absolutely have never heard that but I had always heard that only boats that run that low on the slip scale are go fast boats like Allison’s, Gamblers, etc. I have also heard that any prop out of the box may be +/- 1 degree from advertised and that all three ears may not match. My understanding, which is just what I’m told, is that when you hear of a prop being “trued”, it tuning ears to match. Curious if that is correct?
Yes Ken, that is very true about props being off and a good prop turner has the shape blocks to check it with. Of the props that I hear being the worst of being out of turn is the 26 pitch Tempest, don't know why but most seem to be off some. With that size boat, and I use to own a 361 Ranger I can understand about the saying that Ranger are not a go fast boat. though my would run over 70 mph with a 175 EFI motor and a A45 model 25 pitch Tempest prop. The Bravo Series prop that Mercury racing has out now for outboards run a pitch low compared to the Tempest, and the Fury's run a pitch high. The problem with the Fury prop is it can not handle a heavy load. Still has a good hole shot, but loses some to a bunch on the top end. Mercury Racing designed the Bravo XS series props to have a good hole shot and be able to carry a heavy tournament load, i.e. 2 angles all there stuff and livewells full. Mercury has follow suit with a four blade Fury and Mercury claims the same thing. The Bravo's like to be ran 1/2 to 1 inch higher on the transom compared to the Fury and the Fury 4 likes to be ran close to the same height as the 3 blade. You can go to the Mercury Racing website and read all the Blogs put out by Scott Reichow, the prop designer for Merucry Racing. He can steer you to the best prop for that motor and boat combination.
John my fishing partner is running my boat with the two stroke and has tried the Bravo, it’s right at same top speed and a little slower hole shot, however it sounds way meaner, guess it vents a different way. When I reached out to Mercury when i got this boat 5-6 weeks ago they had absolutely no data on the 4 stroke re: props. I suspect that is changing as we all play with them. I’d be really curious to run the 4 blade Fury as well, will eventually get to all of them, but as you know there is no “perfect prop”, as weather and load plays such a big role in which runs best. It’s interesting that with the 2 stroke I’ve heard guys claim that the Fury, Bravo and Tempest are all the fastest. Will keep researching and playing with them until i find my best hot and cold weather props, thanks for your input!
Ken, that is absolutely correct. Mercury racing has played a bunch with the Verado 4S and have a version of the Bravo prop called the Bravo FS that is for the 4 stoke engines. It does not have any ventilation's holes. the 4 strokes have so much low torque that the holes aren't needed. The FS is the same prop as the XS except the XS has 8 holes. I have a Bravo XS on my Triton 21HP, which is a 21 ft boat, and I find that it has a bunch of stern lift as well as good bow lift . I'm swinging a 27 inch pitch with a 250 Pro XS 2 stoke about 5750 in March, lot less in the summer time though I don't usually run wide open. I would think that the XS version would be the best chose since you can start with all holes plugged and then open them if needed. I hope to change to a 300 Pro XS 4 stoke next year since my is rated for a 300HP. I'll keep watching to see what you find out.
It’s not fast boat did I mention it’s not a fast boat ..
Your killing me Small’s....it’s not!
Some hydraulic steering will fix your struggle with the wheel
It is hydraulic, you just have to drive it when it’s rolling
Hi Ken, do you think the electro-hydraulic power steering option worth it? (like the old verado)
If you ran a SHO you wouldnt need to worry so much about props
Uh huh...
flikdurbean Probably because the SHO wouldn’t start so you wouldn’t need a prop troll.
You ALWAYS have to worry about running the right prop for your rig and goals.
you are right just powerheads
надо взять такой на докатку и подорожить можно
good video, nice engine....
When the term *_holeshot_* is used shouldnt that be from *_in gear IDLE_* ? ...... 2:24 - 2:30 .... the boat looks like its doing at least 1100-1400rpm.
Interesting point, but seldom do I step on it from dead idle, can’t imagine it would make more than a 1/4 sec diff
Hi, 0:32 , your stats on weight give a conservative 2800lbs (excluding yourself?). The momentum or *_lack of momentum_* is a significant factor when testing for an engines *_holeshot_* ability.
Giving your boat the advantage of a *_faster momentum_* can not be dismissed for a package nearing 3000lbs, including yourself. I would say visually there would be a noticable difference if you tried it from a true *_holeshot IDLE_*
70+ mph is fast for a boat shit the fastest ive gone in a boat about low to mid 50s "mph" ina yamaha 150 4 stroke on a 22x7 aluminum flat bottom i did get to try a yamaha 175 4 stroke that would go 65mph with the current of the yukon same boat set up 22x7 flat bottom with 20 inch transom 20inch shaft 175 but i never did get to wide open it
I rigged my new V8 with a 24 fury plug all the pvs holes 5900 RPMs
Ryan what boat and load, and what speed was 5900?
Ryan what boat and load were you running, and how fast was 5900 rpms?
I have a nitro 898 it's a 20 ft boat I was tournament loaded and I'm running a 200 not a 250 and I saw 63-64 bouncing back and forth between that . Probably going to pick up one more mile an hour when the water cools off I love the motor it drives totally different than when it did with a two stroke.
Not a fast boat only 72mph 😂
David 72 MPH is Fast. I'd love to see what you are driving and how much faster it is?
I agree with big boat but not a rough water boat. Resale is over rated now that Johnny Monopoly took it over. Partner has a 2014 C falling apart crappy wiring harnesses he has to replace axles trailer is junk doesn't load unless you bury the trailer. Push button pads expensive to replace silver lettering peels off the Ranger letters chrome peels off the rims.
Never had a problem loading my Chargers, I can honestly say several big name Pros thanked me who followed my Charger 195 in during a storm on good Ole Sam Ray burn and they where wowed. One even had the jack plate come off the transom on onside. Hell with the Champion bottom Chargers. Jim Doris needs to sell Charger to a big investment group and with a few changes best boat on the market.
Corrections, this phone doesn't type in what I what it to inserts words other then what I type. So I'll watch my typing better. I have since been informed that Johnny Morris actually saved Ranger from becoming like Champion boats. If this is true great job Johnny. But customer service and a quality product is the most important thing to survive. Being good people is great but it's bang for the buck. $80,000 boat should last a life time if taken care of properly. I don't know who owned Ranger in 2014 but junk is the word they put out.
Geesh, on an $80k boat
5% slip heavy load fish NASCAR what's not to like ?
Its not a go Fast boat😂😂
Not faster than a 2 stroke at 72 either