Fun Video! Having owned a 23 off road with a Overland torque tune on mild and spicy for the ECT button and currently having a 24 off road, I could have told you this result! No contest all day long! 317 lb-ft of torque at 1700 RPM is too much for the 3rd gen!
Man I’m loving your videos and must tell you my story. I bought a 2023 Sport 4x4. Had it for 2 days and did a crazy thing. I didn’t like the driving experience, it had maybe a problem with jerking on low accelerations and decided to test drive the new 2024. After that test I decided to trade in the 2 days purchase Tacoma 2023 and got the new 2024. The driving has no hesitation, no stiffness bumping and it’s so smooth. I mean I don’t know If I got a bad lemon with that 2023 but it is incomparable how better driving is the 2024. Some inputs will help me understand what happened but I did that and felt a relief afterwards.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos! I don’t think you got a lemon. That’s just how the 3rd Gen drives. I think you made the right choice with the 2024. It drives so much better!
@@MuscleAmerican I’m glad you are saying this because I thought I was crazy, feeling these issues while driving a car with so much reliable reputation. For example if had to cross a bridge just a little steeper I had to accelerate in order to keep the same speed. That’s so weird. I’m still in disbelief. Meanwhile the 2024 drives perfectly!!
The back seat room and seating position is just so so awful in the new Tacoma. Even looking at the drag racing video look past the guys and focus on the rear seating position….the new gen seating looks nearly 90 degrees. A disaster
It wouldn’t have made much of a difference because they are the same size as the 4th Gen but a little heavier. It’s not enough to make a noticeable difference.
@@MuscleAmerican Those K02's are a 53 lb tire the one's on the 4th gen appear to be either a 36 (115S) or 41.8 (115T). Either way those are significant differences. When I went from stock tire and wheel to a 285/70/17 tire that weighs 50 lbs (with a 25lb/17" wheel) the loss of acceleration was very noticeable. Obviously I don't drag race it, but wouldn't be surprised if it was 8-10 car lengths slower. Just food for thought, especially when you upgrade your tires and wheels on the 4th gen.
Can someone tell me so many of these reviewers are drag racing these mid sized off-road trucks? They’re not exactly built to drag race. I wouldn’t necessarily pick a Chevy Colorado over a Jeep Rubicon because it won a drag race
Yeah right. The 4 cylinder turbo will never need to rev over 4000 rpms. The V6 needs to scream at 6000 rpms just to make any sort of power. Who is screaming? And who is humming. More revs means more work needed to make power.
Exactly that little motor is stressing out for sure no doubt about it I can't believe that there is some people still buying these things blows my mind away did not support garbage like this all these manufacturers are going on speed not reliability and durability anymore. I think people need to wake up I guess people forget we have speed limits the V6 Tacoma brake size speed limit no problem!!!!
Don't mind but I'm going to give you a little tip if you want people to watch your videos please don't lie to them, the new one is garbage they cut so many corners on it but if you just look at the looks of it you won't figure that out the new one will never be as reliable as the third generation you will eventually find out the hard way. I'm even surprised you bought the new one I was considering that I took one out for a test ride you can tell inside all the plastic everything is hard plastic very very cheap just a quality and fit and finish of the plastic is garbage the metal is very tiny very weak the hood is so light when you hit a bump the hood moves I always do my research I always check out a new vehicle top to bottom to see if there's any quality before spending big bucks. But there's some people out there that don't do that they just buy it because they think wow it's a Toyota it's good couldn't be more wrong, the back of it they took the leaf springs away which we know the leaf springs are the best they could handle the weight inside the truck a lot better they are way more durable. The new one they put the Springs with the sharks dates for a car garbage for a truck even when you take the truck for a ride it doesn't even feel solid it just feels cheap that's 4 cylinder turbo motor is not going to last. That turbo is pulling out way too much power out of that little force on the motor about motor is going to be working hard all the time and when you have to put something heavy in the Box or pull some weight with it that Motors always going to be stressed it is just way too small for a truck, but I'm sure you already did your homework before you bought it. And if people keep buying these four cylinder pieces of junk they're going to keep making these four cylinder pieces of junk people stop buying them they're going to have to go back to the V6 it's going to kill their profits, and we know the rich man does not like to lose profits!!!!!!
@@MuscleAmerican it's not better you haven't done your homework I have checked out that truck top to bottom from the Plastics to the metal to underneath to even the quality of the metal they used the body is very very tiny very cheap, but I know what to look for a lot of people don't they just walk around look for the looks there's more plastic on there then my son's little Tonka truck that does not say much, the old four cylinder trucks didn't have Turbo that give them the chance to last a lot longer. But then Toyota grew a brain and went to the V6 because they know the four cylinders was too small for a truck and the motor was working hard all the time this is why they went with the V6 in the first place best decision you've ever made, now they went back to the four banger slap the turbo inside and convince a lot of people that it's quality and people will believe this lie when they don't know what to look for and they don't know anything about vehicles very sad for Toyota deceiving their customers!!!!
@@MuscleAmerican please watch this video I sent you if you still think it's quality after this I really feel bad for you buddy all I have to say is do your research and don't listen to a Salesman they they will do anything for sale!!!!!
I’ve seen this video. You’re basing the entire quality of this truck off 1 part malfunction? No vehicle is free of defects or potential problems. Show me another video where someone had that same issue as TFL, there isn’t one. I’m happy with this truck, you’re not going to convince me otherwise and I’m not here to convince you. Have a great day!
New 4cyl turbo motors in the trucks, as well as 6cyl turbo, are junk. Feels like it is in the wrong gear at times. It does feel like it has umph, but, the 4cyl umph. That power is “shallow”. Drive a v8 with the same power and a 4cyl, and you’ll know the difference. Overall Feel is cheap. Do not like how it drives, accelerates, cheap plasticky interior and exterior, gigantic and useless screen, lacking weatherstripping between the doors and frames/fenders as well as front and back doors. Overall it is 🤢 🤮… Not worth the money. Go buy the latest 4L and ignore the latest turbo junk… my opinion, these latest turbo motors are made for the latest ignorant generation that does not know cars and are more concerned about tech vs practicality and drivability. Mark my words, anyone with a 4L motor, or even a v6 frontier and ridgeline, will have less issues and will save more money than the latest gasoline turbo “junk”.
The ford 2.7 v6 has thus far proven to be a really reliable platform, even in a F-150. On the new ranger it’s going to be a beast of a power train. Yes turbos induce more malfunctions, yes I’d prefer to have a v8, yes I’d prefer less electronics and more mechanical linkages. But with what you’re saying, every vehicle that’s newer than a 2004 full size pickup is just outright a POS, and that’s just ignorance. With regular maintenance a lot of newer vehicles can easily make the 150,000-200,000 mark. Especially from the more reliable brands
@@BROCK_WARHAMMER , frontier will be a lot less trouble free vehicle, as well as ridgeline - for the realist person. Anyone with brains, will buy either those two or buy the latest 4L taco vs the new turbo junk.
Buy the 4L, that is known to gear hunt and feel shallow on power the moment you go up in tire size... Yupp, more torque definitely makes the situation worse 🤔
I have a 94 pre tacoma and just got me a 3rd gen love these trucks.
4th gen looks good but the 3rd gen just looks more rugged.
Fun Video! Having owned a 23 off road with a Overland torque tune on mild and spicy for the ECT button and currently having a 24 off road, I could have told you this result! No contest all day long! 317 lb-ft of torque at 1700 RPM is too much for the 3rd gen!
Man I’m loving your videos and must tell you my story. I bought a 2023 Sport 4x4. Had it for 2 days and did a crazy thing. I didn’t like the driving experience, it had maybe a problem with jerking on low accelerations and decided to test drive the new 2024. After that test I decided to trade in the 2 days purchase Tacoma 2023 and got the new 2024. The driving has no hesitation, no stiffness bumping and it’s so smooth. I mean I don’t know If I got a bad lemon with that 2023 but it is incomparable how better driving is the 2024. Some inputs will help me understand what happened but I did that and felt a relief afterwards.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos! I don’t think you got a lemon. That’s just how the 3rd Gen drives. I think you made the right choice with the 2024. It drives so much better!
@@MuscleAmerican I’m glad you are saying this because I thought I was crazy, feeling these issues while driving a car with so much reliable reputation. For example if had to cross a bridge just a little steeper I had to accelerate in order to keep the same speed. That’s so weird. I’m still in disbelief. Meanwhile the 2024 drives perfectly!!
Awesome low budget video. Hope you guys make it!!!
Where was this and what is the elevation?
It’s roughly 4,900 feet above sea level
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
That turning radius is why i bought a 3rd gen. Turning radius, reliability and price.
@@OceansideCreations those are valid reasons
The 3rd gens powertrain will be superior in long term reliability
Yes because is not turbo on it i love my 3rd generation
What's the basis for that thought
@@aury1686why would a turbo kill a drivetrain prematurely
Can you guys compare Manual transmission?
Manual to auto 4th gen?
@@MuscleAmerican 6 speed manual transmission
The back seat room and seating position is just so so awful in the new Tacoma. Even looking at the drag racing video look past the guys and focus on the rear seating position….the new gen seating looks nearly 90 degrees. A disaster
Wheelbase was increased on the new Tacoma
One is a truck, other is honda race car
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Own a 2023 Taco OR but going this week to look at a 2024 model. We shall see...
@@KTown_Painter let me know what you think!
What wheels are those on the 3rd gen taco ? I want them for my 4th gen
These are the 2020-2023 TRD PRO wheels. Here is the part number PT946-35200-02 but they won’t fit the 4th Gen
@@MuscleAmerican why not?
I wish they would bring some of the colors from the 3rd gen into the line up of the new Tacomas.
I agree, the color line up wasn’t great. Have you seen the colors for the new 4Runner? I hope they carry some of those over.
I saw that. They are nice
Yea…I think the Army green would look 🔥on the 4th gen.
Will the wheel/tire on the 3rd gen fit on the 4th gen. I'd be curious if tire/wheels were swapped, what the drag race result would be...
It wouldn’t have made much of a difference because they are the same size as the 4th Gen but a little heavier. It’s not enough to make a noticeable difference.
@@MuscleAmerican Those K02's are a 53 lb tire the one's on the 4th gen appear to be either a 36 (115S) or 41.8 (115T). Either way those are significant differences. When I went from stock tire and wheel to a 285/70/17 tire that weighs 50 lbs (with a 25lb/17" wheel) the loss of acceleration was very noticeable. Obviously I don't drag race it, but wouldn't be surprised if it was 8-10 car lengths slower. Just food for thought, especially when you upgrade your tires and wheels on the 4th gen.
To me it didn’t seem that big a diff in the turning radius. Thanks for the video 🍻
3 feet is a huge difference, unless you’re a liberal.
When you are offroading or in crowded parking spots its a massive difference and time saver
Did toyota put this out? lol I'll keep my 3rd gen and get there a few seconds later and have 60k in my pocket! lol
Who buys a truck to drag race?……
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Why no test with pulling a trailer?
I could, but the results wouldn’t be much different. The 4th Gen has more torque and better gearing. It will tow much better than the 3rd Gen.
@@MuscleAmericanHuh? 🥴
@@becks23mt 4th Gen would have won
@@MuscleAmerican I meant, read your comment. Doesn’t make sense.
@@becks23mt fixed
Can someone tell me so many of these reviewers are drag racing these mid sized off-road trucks? They’re not exactly built to drag race. I wouldn’t necessarily pick a Chevy Colorado over a Jeep Rubicon because it won a drag race
It’s fair enough to get pull for a highway merge comparison I guess. Other than that? The views
You shouldn’t base a buying decision purely on a drag race. This is just for comparison and you should consider all aspects of the truck.
@@JNguyen-f4m meh I’m sure they are all sufficient
That little 4banger turbo is stressing.
Yeah right. The 4 cylinder turbo will never need to rev over 4000 rpms. The V6 needs to scream at 6000 rpms just to make any sort of power. Who is screaming? And who is humming. More revs means more work needed to make power.
Exactly that little motor is stressing out for sure no doubt about it I can't believe that there is some people still buying these things blows my mind away did not support garbage like this all these manufacturers are going on speed not reliability and durability anymore. I think people need to wake up I guess people forget we have speed limits the V6 Tacoma brake size speed limit no problem!!!!
Well I like to see both pull 3,000lb and see which one go faster
If you think the 3.5 v6 is made to tow you are clearly smoking some good stuff. No usable torque for towing. It struggles with 3000lbs.
4th gen for me
After dumping my jeep jku I'm not only a complete asshat, I feel like one. I've been parking my 24 Tacoma like im driving an F650
Bottom line is keeping our 2019 Tacoma better or it’s worth upgrading ? To 4th gen
In my opinion the 4th Gen is a better truck but it’s expensive! You just need to decide what’s important to you.
Keep the 3rd gen. The 4th gen is not a better truck. More modern interior tech, but forced induction engines are not built for longevity.
@@MuscleAmericanI mean the rear seating in the 4th gen is horrid and worse than the also poor 3rd gen
@@dobbingo9313the back seat in either one sucks. That’s like splitting hairs.
Don't stick with the one you have, it's not worth it unless you want to pay 1,500 a month.
How about racing a 2nd Gen 4.0?
Love the 2nd gen but it still wouldn’t have beat the 4th gen
So an extra $10k to be a second or two faster? Ehh
Its a turbo no surprise lol idc
2nd gen is faster than the 3rd gen.
3rd gen will tow more
According to whom? No one that has compared the 2
Lmao is depends 3rd generation the number 1
If I wanted to drag race, I’ll buy a Supra.. If I wanted long term reliability, I’ll buy a Tacoma with a V6 motor.
What I don't understand is why are arguing over both of these cars' car-generation who's better when both cars will eventually break down
No one is arguing, it’s just a comparison.
Don't mind but I'm going to give you a little tip if you want people to watch your videos please don't lie to them, the new one is garbage they cut so many corners on it but if you just look at the looks of it you won't figure that out the new one will never be as reliable as the third generation you will eventually find out the hard way. I'm even surprised you bought the new one I was considering that I took one out for a test ride you can tell inside all the plastic everything is hard plastic very very cheap just a quality and fit and finish of the plastic is garbage the metal is very tiny very weak the hood is so light when you hit a bump the hood moves I always do my research I always check out a new vehicle top to bottom to see if there's any quality before spending big bucks. But there's some people out there that don't do that they just buy it because they think wow it's a Toyota it's good couldn't be more wrong, the back of it they took the leaf springs away which we know the leaf springs are the best they could handle the weight inside the truck a lot better they are way more durable. The new one they put the Springs with the sharks dates for a car garbage for a truck even when you take the truck for a ride it doesn't even feel solid it just feels cheap that's 4 cylinder turbo motor is not going to last. That turbo is pulling out way too much power out of that little force on the motor about motor is going to be working hard all the time and when you have to put something heavy in the Box or pull some weight with it that Motors always going to be stressed it is just way too small for a truck, but I'm sure you already did your homework before you bought it. And if people keep buying these four cylinder pieces of junk they're going to keep making these four cylinder pieces of junk people stop buying them they're going to have to go back to the V6 it's going to kill their profits, and we know the rich man does not like to lose profits!!!!!!
This is exactly what 2nd gen owners said about the 3rd gen. I’ve owned them all. The 4th gen is better hands down.
@@MuscleAmerican it's not better you haven't done your homework I have checked out that truck top to bottom from the Plastics to the metal to underneath to even the quality of the metal they used the body is very very tiny very cheap, but I know what to look for a lot of people don't they just walk around look for the looks there's more plastic on there then my son's little Tonka truck that does not say much, the old four cylinder trucks didn't have Turbo that give them the chance to last a lot longer. But then Toyota grew a brain and went to the V6 because they know the four cylinders was too small for a truck and the motor was working hard all the time this is why they went with the V6 in the first place best decision you've ever made, now they went back to the four banger slap the turbo inside and convince a lot of people that it's quality and people will believe this lie when they don't know what to look for and they don't know anything about vehicles very sad for Toyota deceiving their customers!!!!
@@MuscleAmerican th-cam.com/video/svD7Mx2xius/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8doJbU-cm40cKEn-
@@MuscleAmerican please watch this video I sent you if you still think it's quality after this I really feel bad for you buddy all I have to say is do your research and don't listen to a Salesman they they will do anything for sale!!!!!
I’ve seen this video. You’re basing the entire quality of this truck off 1 part malfunction? No vehicle is free of defects or potential problems. Show me another video where someone had that same issue as TFL, there isn’t one.
I’m happy with this truck, you’re not going to convince me otherwise and I’m not here to convince you. Have a great day!
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New 4cyl turbo motors in the trucks, as well as 6cyl turbo, are junk. Feels like it is in the wrong gear at times. It does feel like it has umph, but, the 4cyl umph. That power is “shallow”. Drive a v8 with the same power and a 4cyl, and you’ll know the difference. Overall Feel is cheap. Do not like how it drives, accelerates, cheap plasticky interior and exterior, gigantic and useless screen, lacking weatherstripping between the doors and frames/fenders as well as front and back doors. Overall it is 🤢 🤮… Not worth the money. Go buy the latest 4L and ignore the latest turbo junk… my opinion, these latest turbo motors are made for the latest ignorant generation that does not know cars and are more concerned about tech vs practicality and drivability. Mark my words, anyone with a 4L motor, or even a v6 frontier and ridgeline, will have less issues and will save more money than the latest gasoline turbo “junk”.
Don't get one then turd
The ford 2.7 v6 has thus far proven to be a really reliable platform, even in a F-150. On the new ranger it’s going to be a beast of a power train. Yes turbos induce more malfunctions, yes I’d prefer to have a v8, yes I’d prefer less electronics and more mechanical linkages. But with what you’re saying, every vehicle that’s newer than a 2004 full size pickup is just outright a POS, and that’s just ignorance. With regular maintenance a lot of newer vehicles can easily make the 150,000-200,000 mark. Especially from the more reliable brands
I love you youtube commenters with no education and no engineering background coming in to call something that just came out, junk
@@BROCK_WARHAMMER , frontier will be a lot less trouble free vehicle, as well as ridgeline - for the realist person. Anyone with brains, will buy either those two or buy the latest 4L taco vs the new turbo junk.
Buy the 4L, that is known to gear hunt and feel shallow on power the moment you go up in tire size... Yupp, more torque definitely makes the situation worse 🤔
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