PAP's Vivian Balakrishnan's heated exchange with SDP's Chee Soon Juan in live TV debate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- “We will never have 10 million (people)... and you are raising a false strawman,” says PAP’s Vivian Balakrishan to SDP’s Chee Soon Juan.
He was responding to Dr Chee’s question on whether the PAP plans to raise the population of Singapore to 10 million.
Dr Chee and Dr Balakrishnan together with WP’s Jamus Lim and SDP’s Francis Yuen were participating in the election’s first live political debate on Wednesday (July 1)
Read more: tdy.sg/2ZngYx2
#GE2020
I kinda want to see a full discussion without any time limit. This small table discussion is intimate and probably easier for us voters to judge on the character of these candidates. Since we have youtube now, I would not mind seeing a 3hr long live streaming of these discussions right here.
Yea man. I always watch The Rubin Report. I want to see a healthy conversation of where they come from, their point of view
Then vote and see it in parliament
time limit should be 3-4 minutes to fully answer all questions
I love this type of debates. We can see clear. How PAP Q&A. That's is why Dr Cheers must enter parliament.
It's 2023 now, VB arguement holds water?! In 2025 or earlier, we wil check again..
Keep it up bro
I see. So the reason most Singaporeans are disgruntled and taking sides with Opposition is that they simply wanted foreigners out. Ok. I shall cast my vote for the Opposition.
Thanks for your heartiest “Like” whoever you are. Please give me your contact details. In case all foreigners being chased off one fine day, I need you to cook my favourite chicken rice and Mee pok, clear up the rubbish chutes at my block and drive the SBS bus I regularly take to travel. Thanks! 😊
Well hopefully you guys that release your tension against PAP and say other parties is good,well make sure this coming Friday vote who you think is good for you....No hard feeling...we have to keep our words..Dont just write on the comments but voting time you all vote for PAP..hahahahaha.......
Remember who was the one who kicked out Mr Chiam from the party established by Mr Chiam himself?
If I’m not mistaken, Chiam resigned from his party and his post in the party on his own.
Dr Chee sure strike a nerve on Vivian when he mentioned YOG
I dont even rem this event having taken place here and I live here. Got benefits or not? How much was spent leh, too lazy to google..🤡
Over spent 2b, Singaporean was told they underestimate, should step down!
@@chinchengng8883 Bro u sure or not? 2B is out of this world leh..now I need to fact check u liao...seriously?
@@eyeswideshut8110 Legit went all out still can remember sia my area got carnival and parade all lol and its dam smol area
@@LKJSPH sustain the minister's million dollar income, this is despicable , iceland has 300000 population yet financially they are better managed than singapore.This plan is a confirmed self sabotage plan.
I remember him screwed up the Youth Olympic budget
N food poisoning also....
Mojazzz well said
Bala talking of cost and bills, joker, can't manage Olympic budget.
He screw up job given to him.
Kannan Raven He’s a senior minister who has represented Singapore in many fronts. Pretty sure one ‘mess up’ doesn’t mean he can’t do the job he was given as a minister.
Today have no guts to display likes and dislikes in most of their videos related to politics. lol~ Why dont be transparent about these political issues.?
They scared la, getting cornered liao, at this point, they must use cheats and control media before its too late
You have failed to answer the question it was just a yes or no question. Your failure to answer the question has indirectly insinuated that you DO intend for such a population target
He screwed up the Youth Olympic budget
They should not let dictator Kim and Orange-head Trump here and use our money to host a useless meeting...
Dr Chee was merely asking a question, an honest one, about whether or not the PAP is planning on raising the population up to 10 million. He did not pick up that number through random thoughts but rather, referred to an article where DPM Heng Swee Keat cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term. While it may not be an official plan of the government to do so, as Dr. Chee said HSK was toying with that idea and number especially having said that Singapore's population density is not excessive. Furthermore, the person he cited was not any Tom Dick or Harry. Hence I find it valid that Dr. Chee and the SDP actually raised this point to get some clarity from the PAP on its plans regarding population growth as such statements like those mentioned by HSK may have caused alarm to the hearts of the ordinary reader.
This simply shows we need opposition in Parliament.
M. Farhan Rahmad, agree with you. Dr Chee raised a question which affect everyone of us and our children's children. What I failed to understand is that Dr Vivian should explain and why we need 10 m or do not need 10 m and not be defensive. We have the right to know what the govt policy is. I find that many a time the ministers brushed aside questions which they find difficult to answer for whatever reasons. What do they fear? Don't have the knowledge? Don't have the skills to articulate or express themselves? Fear of rebuttals? Singaporeans have the right to know. Our late PM LKY once said Politics is about getting the people to buy-in the policies/ideas.
Agreed. CSJ was asking a question Yes? or No? and where on earth "falsehood" become the issue..
How would Singapore hit a population of 10 million when we're consistently an aging population? Just a simple question.
*SINGAPORE SHOULD PLAN FOR POPULATION OF 10 MILLION* www.businesstimes.com.sg/top-stories/singapore-should-plan-for-population-of-10m
*'On the projected population of 6.9 million by 2030, set out in the Government's 2013 Population White Paper, Mr Heng said the number goes beyond how densely populated Singapore would be.* The social space is as important.
Singapore's population density is not excessive, he said, noting that other cities are a lot more crowded in terms of liveable space.
*He cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who said in 2014 that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term.'*
www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng
*URA releases plan to build underground infrastructure ready for 10 million population*
www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2019/04/04/ura-releases-plan-to-build-underground-infrastructure-ready-for-10-million-population/
What falsehood?? Hahaha please lah Bala...
Bala, I want to open prata shop with you . Anytime. Goreng pisang, nasi lemak, mee goreng. But must be food that has been tossed around.
😂😂😂
typical....always prata peng
and Cheap Shots!
Hahahaha
Thats really funny bro...
Good suggestion... Can I partner as well...z😀😀😀😀😀😀
The simple answer would have been no. Or yes.
Not sure why it has to be so complicated.
u never do pri school comprehension before is it
Saying that CSJ is spewing falsehood is punching below the belt. Its to create a bad image of csj, at the same time distract audience from the real issues put forward by csj on this 10m matter.
At the same time I find the minister tho polite but very condescending. Its just like he is talking to a group of students, not equal contestants in the GE.
Hi! Maybe you'll find instagram.com/p/CCHogcZFABC/? interesting... It may shine a different light on a few statements you've made!
Here there is something to POFMA. ..NOT AIMING AT 10M
In Parliament, we can count on Dr Chee to keep those PAP MP's on their toes. No more napping or wayang show. Dr Chee is worth every penny of the MP's allowance paid by taxpayers. Lets do it fellow Singaporeans and send this man into parliament.
🇸🇬 Dr Chee Soon Juan,
a true patriot. 👍
When he mentioned 'false statement' im sure character assassination is happening soon!
Still im glad to hear the possibility of a policy u-turn
WOW the budget you blew during the Youth Olympics 🔨
Vote more speak in parliament ,don get harder life for five years.. see your own eyes and sense ..stand up for pink IC Singaporen ..we must change our lifestyle,fight for our future,our generation
Vote PAP
@@christineluo1835 too much power can corrupt.
@@endi4654 Really? Please list out (with facts) the things are corrupt by this current government. Don't get me wrong, I am not a PAP supporter but just a sound neutral Singaporean believing in facts and effectivve & incorruptible governance regardless who may be in power. So far I have seen nothing that is corrupt that this current government had turned out even with sweeping majority in parliament for the past 50+ years. i am not so sure the same can be said to the opposition party except Chiam so far. I have also yet to see any substantive worthy proposition from the opposition party that is worth voting for. Take housing as an example; you think SIngapore housing is expansive? Think again compared it to those comparable economy of the world, SIngapore has the most effective and affordable public housing it has to offer for local citizens Likewise regarding healthcare. As far as import of foreign workers its a double edge sword. With the minute population and reach in world market, Singapore cannot compete with just local work force and home grown business because of its size and the lack of natural resources. However, too much import will impact the livelihood of locals who are less competitive. So there is a balance of workforce to strive for in accordance to the kind of business nature that the world needs for growth. Singaporeans by and large needs to continue upgrading their skills to stay competitive which the current government hass been advocating and been providing support to aide the upgrading. I believe the government had heed the advice from the citizenry complaint after 2011 election as far as the rate of foreign imports are concerned. As far as CPF withdrawal is concerned, why would an early withdrawal proposed by the opposition will helpsolve financial issues? Instead of proposing earlier withdrawal, I would rather advice people to upgrade their skill and improve their earnings to boost their CPF contributions for a better retirement plan.
@@endi4654 honestly it can be the case for any party even if another is voted in. Without strongman LKY, things will be more divisive in future.
@@christineluo1835 th-cam.com/video/accF0gAmdeg/w-d-xo.html
How come opposition party talk abt pap.. pap looks like very tense...
Dr Chee will have 5 years to ask many questions in parliament.
sadly he was not elected in
Most Singaporeans have heard about 10 million figure and it wasn't invented yesterday! In 2010, LHL said "The value of HDB home will never go down" LKY also said "No country in the world has given its citizens an asset as valuable as what we’ve given every family here" You can search the news! So who has been indulging in false statements?
Why the double sternded u say jobs for Singaporerien first .Whare all that promise gone to .
Are you stuoid? Jobs are still for Singaporeans first BRUH
Jefferson on the surface yes and please be polite.
All bull
@@miltonerickson3305 ummm ok?... wtf?
@Si Dunue YES THANK YOU! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO MAKES SENSE. PAP FOR GE2020
When question ask he said just the pm pass down the massage then escape the question dun forget ur pm ask we singaporean not to wear mask n go out as normal then make a u - turn now is it the same way balakrishann diing now
How come the overspending of the Youth Olympics Games were sidelined? . It's not ur money overspending that event. How do Sporeans benefit from such wastage and mismanagement of
ludicrous spending which did not benefit Singapore. Instead u were left off the hook and just got away Scott's free. Don't intimidate Mr Chee. He has done a wonderful job, a committed and a very dedicated MP. Ur slate of the current PAP MPs for this election do not have the extraordinary qualifications compared to the current opposition hopefuls. PAP is to me, from the view of you an ordinary Sporean, is if u read George Orwell 'Animal Farm' come to life. 'Animal Farm' was the book we had learned in my School days as a subject of English Literature. I recommend 'Animal Farm' for all Sporeans to read and it will open up ur minds. U can search and order from Amazon.
The PAP is the cause for the rising cost of everything from Bus fare to simple basic food, baby and children necessities. Ur talk are utterly despicable and irrational and bcoz of PAP stupid policies that has made young Sporeans stopped from embarking into marriage to start a family. Please use ur brain to analyse and think before u speak and make intelligent policies.
One micro example is when world oil price went up so was our bus fare, But when oil price goes down likewise how come bus fare did not go down too? And for goodness sake and for the sake of SMEs stop taking and doing businesses competing with Spore small time businesses.
The Govt already own Supermarkets, Pawn shops, Comfort Taxi, Grab, Casket business and the list goes on. Why don't u charge a flat 20% GST on those visiting the ladies of the night at Geylang brothels?
Go and form a closer relationship with Indonesian President Jokovi. He is well learned as many of their students are very computer literate and they are moving into the G5 environment. Even Israel is fearful of Indonesia and so is US as their school students can hack ur IT security system. Learn from him, who comes from a humble background on how he can manage a big country with over 270 million people made up of over 700 ethnic people with different cultures, background and religion now beginning to live a decent lives which put PAP to shame. There is no GST and no health charges. All are FOC. Children education are free with schoolbooks, uniforms shoes and educational necessities
are provided free too. Indonesia under President Jokovi is corrupt free. Even his sons are doing business not depending on him for assistance. He even told the them not to have anything to do with Govt businesses or try to get any kind of favours. Here in Spore we got spouses of PAP holding top post in GLCs earning unashamely exorbitant salaries. President Jokovi is no General nor a President scholar, just an ordinary uni graduate but he does a better job than all the PAP MPs put together. The Gentleman in PrresdentJokovi is that he never intimidate or pulverise the oppositions. He never resort to suing opposition to bankruptcies which is the favourite hobby of the PAP to the extent of neglecting issues pertaining to the real issues that affect Sporean lives.Your obsessions of trying to find ways on how to fix opposition parties for doing a good job will eventually and surely in the coming years to come will make PAP to vanish to oblivion one fine day. . Please deal with the overwhelming realities of the Spore aspirations.
PLEASE LISTEN, LISTEN AND LISTEN NOT JUST TALK, TALK AND TALK. PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE SEEN AND NOT JUST PROVIDING LIPS SERVICES.
LASTLY, PLEASE WALK THE TALK
AND CHANGE UR DICTATORIAL WAYS OF RUNNING SINGAPORE
TO GIVING SINGAPOREANS A DIGNIFIED AND A MEANINGFUL UNSTRESSFUL LIFE AND ALSO FOR THE NEXT SUBSEQUENT GENERATION. THANK-YOU.
Same old story same old election results. Singaporeans will never change and they are scared. Will still choose the PAP then few months later complain with increased fares,gst etc.
Thank you PAP for their honesty
🤭 Yep... Never learn....
Online sg will support opposition but when it's time to actually cast their vote it will go to pap bec of comfort zone n being safe
Senior citizens will vote PAP
@@alanakasem1723 PR also vote PAP right...
The PAP has lost its way" and that "the current government is distinctly different" from the time of LKY. Quote Lee Hsien Yang
Youth Olympic Games 2010
-Singapore won the bid to host the games in a tight race with Moscow.
-The cost of the first games in Singapore escalated to an estimated S$387 million
-That's three times above the original budget of around USD$90m which was submitted to the IOC.
-The government minister in charge of spending on the games, Vivian Balakrishnan, is *unapologetic*.
please dont pofma me : www.bbc.com/news/10978576
Dr. Chee, is formidable, because he has a big brain, AND a big heart.
Looking forward to the day that he enters into parliament, with other opposition parties as well.
he has a small brain and miniscule heart
Lousy
YESSA!!! DR CHEE IS FORMIDABLE!!!
not in my estate!!! i will not trust him based on his past behaviour and how he treated Chiam See Tong!
CSJ we need you in parliament
That was a cheap shot by VB coz Chee’s question is a valid one. Nothing wrong with his question. This is typically PAP behavior, clowns and kids.
I m not pro any party here but wouldnt you agree if we had changed to a multi party ruling government 2 elections ago, we wouldnt be fingered so badly by PAP.
Yes sure.
And wait til 2025 ge.
I believe u will say this same sentence again lol.
@Atomic Lee yup, just like your mother.
@@limjin5200 only if pap even survives this ge. ;p
Better to have a few more opposition in Parliament so there will be no MP sleeping
Hey how do someone speak garbage and lies in such a polite, nice and slick manner lol.
Unbelievable
Tak Tak
LOL... A more polite and more deadly version of the CCP.....
Their cowhide for a skin has become accustomed to it.
*SINGAPORE SHOULD PLAN FOR POPULATION OF 10 MILLION* www.businesstimes.com.sg/top-stories/singapore-should-plan-for-population-of-10m
*'On the projected population of 6.9 million by 2030, set out in the Government's 2013 Population White Paper, Mr Heng said the number goes beyond how densely populated Singapore would be.* The social space is as important.
Singapore's population density is not excessive, he said, noting that other cities are a lot more crowded in terms of liveable space.
*He cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who said in 2014 that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term.'*
www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng
*URA releases plan to build underground infrastructure ready for 10 million population*
www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2019/04/04/ura-releases-plan-to-build-underground-infrastructure-ready-for-10-million-population/
Chee soon juan! A man with a balls of steel! Keep fighting! Truth will always win! Much respect for this guy man!
To be honest..LKY fear him.if he get elected in parliament .PaP will end up in opposition.
Only wise Singaporeans can appreciate wise government with foresight.
Apparently, the wise government died along with LKY...
U must be myopic , deaf or mute.
Need more wise nation wide
Dr Chee is a truly honest patriotic man. No smirks on his face like Balakrishnan has. He looks so arrogant. How I wished Dr Chee would win and be elected into Parliament soon
snobbish written on his face
unlike chee who is genuine
That’s just how he talks.
CSJ makes a very good alternative voice in parliament, hope he wins this time around... Niway I have no respect for someone who has no principles, remember Vivian was very anti- establishment before he became a pap man
tragedy
I don't see him as anti establishment then. I see an individual who loves SG and question the establishment when the need arises. Accepted the reasons and explanations given. And then decided to join PAP, because his ideals and aspirations align with the establishment. Nothing wrong with that.
If SG not enough old folks home they can go live at malaysia old folks home... when orchard n other parts of SG flooding due to insufficient drainage... once in 50 yrs ⬆️ is all mention by the man who wear white shirt ⬆️
Thanks you , Dr Chee, for having the guts and eloquence to ask the tough questions which not many dare , too. Your determination, honesty and bravery really make many of your true supporters proud. You walk the talk and delivered what you promised. Thank you for speaking up for us . I will continue to give you support in whatever way I can...
Lies again? Delicious Food
Guys we need opposition so the pap guys won't fall asleep please . We need some action in Parliament
I believe in CSJ; he has brain and can speak well. He should be elected into the parliament and give alternate voices, rather than just voices from one-party system.
He gave his life, started recklessly but now a polished speaker ready to challenge any sheltered Yes man.!
PAP knows people are unhappy about 10m and in fact even with 6.9m.
Dr Chee has to be more methodical and less conniving. Give blow for blow.. delay the F-35 purchases, why T4 when T3 not used to caacity, look at bureaucratic fat- retired civil servants drawing pensions yet re-employed as 'consultants' and 'adjuncts' into government agencies, wasted money in RCs and CCs (they are good but many of them spend for the sake of spending.. SG50 for example), losses by Temasek publicised in specific share purchases/ sales resulting in loss of millions and a CEO pay which could easily sponsor lots of old folks. Going for the current COVID19 budget is too dicey, so just attack straight ! Tell VB that the prices of fresh flats can exclude land cost and should cost about $330,000 for 1200 sq ft HDB based on current condo development costs by rivate developers.. HDB kooning and curent party wants to maintain high HDB prices. Yes, painful to current HDB owners but good for our children and future generations. Take VB pint, turn it against him and poke him ! Dr Chee you got to be less personal and more persuasive. Stop harping about long ago past and focus. Cut your billions dollar budget down by 10 times, propoe generice medicine, free medical consultations for old age chronic illness and check-ups. Forget about the 10 million population and mive on bcos it is VB's cheap shot. ask govt agency to change target to no target and VB is so hao siao.. @LK HR mentioned this in this post thread already and we already read it. Do the numbers and go for the weak points in the MIW armour.. there are many..
VB point not pint
@@5centsworth107 You can edit your comment! Top right of your comment, the triple dot symbol. And yes, I thoroughly agree with you!
They can only get 1min 30sec coz if given too much time, will expose too many failures of the pappies
New HDB is not for local only, they also for FT incoming. So, 10m is possible and what can we do? Then another story from the PAP for it, we also cannot do much by then. If 80% go by now, then I believe no 10m population plan.
It seems that VB lost his way....need to change PAP since they are too long in power....ini kali kasi tukarlah..
Balakrishnan is wasting his breath woyh juan
Stop back tracking on the past mistakes done
In honesty Dr Chee has a point!
he does...a lousy point
His face looks unlucky
He also has delusions
He didn't like PAP many years
From LKY -------LHL------until die
Youth Olympic lost so much money and the person responsible is still talking as if he is a saint. Where is the accountability in Singapore.
No need to resign still continue sitting where he is. Who is he to question n give ans. 👎👎👎
In other countries, the minister resigned liao.
I met Dr Vivian Balakrishnan once during a meet-the-people session and sought assistance for my family. He did not even bother to address my concerns and brushed me off. He was neither approachable nor helpful. Honestly, it seemed like he was there for the sake of appearance and not to truly listen to us.
Post it on facebook.
Lets make it go viral
I knew he worked at Moorfields Eye Hospital by Old Street tube station, so I bet he’s more helpful there.
This is what we want in the parliament! Not all yes man in white!!
The tide is turning
This is heated? Haha. Please watch 5 min of Malaysian Politics
PAP has lost its direction. Fumbling and tumbling and denying what Heng has mentioned in an interview.
shut up
@@adenccpb9252 no
Aden Inferno CCPB no you shut up, he right. Falsifying and avoiding the question draws suspicion shows incompetence in a debate.
www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2019/04/04/ura-releases-plan-to-build-underground-infrastructure-ready-for-10-million-population/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=a27629d0026880fbf6d0c5f618e50bb3f026d74b-1593782829-0-AQ9-b3VY2Wy5HJtBzjT4dPkvMllVkG2Q86a-FGnGA7Ze9w8iklXa1fQayK9Mmrfx6MDDnsY30jvgdLuUSkbu2F_LmYg3fRapr9gM0RAsRzOWUbyWjh9pqQeA2s_0DDnWyZS7V1pn-YeCC-uzc-P_ZMyUooU64QLW8lPXkUnEaFkXy0PUYzSbMenqhYJ5OwM01LBqFQCod72lQymmG3WJ8ZSD1A1kzi24pL1zik55nEb_IIoeJKaJIx6LTA01CdgkWvLlem3ujzweRoG0Zg2VMNxb0jvevUDS9KGAE7Rm22n1as4gvPy6Ohpc84tWXA7lUgOloKt8i7VURPf_JsUDGYH0MPCNhOAd-uA5SnwCEULAK-2MJHfU3Xt2E0QsbBx_yTqDK87gHOiU-AZYs3-gIxc
@@AggronAaron Mr bala never answer question he point finger n,say falsehood which in facts there was article about it. Falsehood?
When Dr Chee talk about the Youth Olympic budget, the moderator immediately told him that his time is up. Should let Dr Chee finish his claim first, would love to hear the whole truth. And am thankful to Dr Chee for bringing up the 10Mil population issue, it's really scary! Already felt suffocated with the current numbers in Singapore. Hope PAP will start helping our locals and stop pressuring us!
“The government doesn’t have a target for our population.”
Well, that’s what Singaporeans thought 25 years ago. Lo and behold, our humble 3 mil population has increased to a whopping 5.9 mil today in a matter of years. I didn’t know Singaporeans are so reproductive! The irony is only 2.65 mil true blue Singaporeans today are eligible to vote. What does this tell us? The population is creeping up steadily and it’s scary to think that we are now surrounded by foreigners and immigrants everywhere we go. We can’t help feeling that the population will keep rising as there’s no direction or certainty from the government that enough is enough. I sure hope it won’t be 6.9 or 10 million or I’ll have to sleep in a bedroom the size of my toilet cubicle.
A G . On record the late LKY had mentioned that the IDEAL number should be around 3.5 million population. Apparently NO ONE, NOT EVEN HIS OWN SON LISTENS TO HIS ADVICE!
@Wong Family ..Really, 3.5 mil is the perfect figure to have to strike that balance. LKY is indeed far sighted. Look at us now. This massive influx of foreign workers from unskilled labourers to professionals has blown out of proportions.
Our people have to make noise to tell the government to curb their obsession with getting new people in because it has negatively impacted our social system. Singaporeans now have to fight for jobs, land space etc so much so many of our local talents have chosen to migrate or work overseas. I’ve known of a PhD holder who lost his job to 3 foreigners who are also PhD holders doing his job but at lesser salaries. This is how Singaporeans are being treated now. It’s sad.
At the rate they’re going, the population projection will be 6.9 mil by year 2030. Now PAP say they don’t even have to see 6.9mil, let alone 10 mil. They only sing to their own tune as and when they like it.
there are only 2.65 million voters does jot mran there are only 2.65 million Singaporeans. There are almost a million singaporeans who are below age 21. These are still Singaporean but just jot eliginle to vote
the 10m issue has really made the issue of planning so wrong. What is wrong with planning for the future? the 10m was brought up by Mr Lui, the master planner for modern Singapore and in the article, he specifically state it is for urban planning and for 2100 as he is worried about the land suppply as that is the constraint we are facing. This is planning dor the future and what is wrong of that to plan for the future??? you think land are birth overnight?? we need to reclaim land and when done it has to be settled down many years b2fore it can be used. If LKY and that generation has not sone any future plaanning amd reclaim land, where will Marine Parade, Changi, Pasir Panjang be?? the new CBD,, Gsrdens bu the Bay,, MBS etc?? all these will not happen if we do not plan for it. I fear for rhe future generation that they will scold us why we were so fearful and no plan long term for them that opportunities arises but they are not able to take it due to no land.. or lived in a messy country because no planning was done. If Singaporean dont want planning, fine, then LTA,HDB etc, no need to do any planning for future needs. jist let it be current state can already
@@augustinetan6037 Thats only a small number under 21, Singapore is not reproducing much.
Csj very good
PAP is always asking who is going to pay for this and that. Actually, they have no idea themselves other than by increasing the population through import, otherwise who else is going to pay and pay?
But is true so who is gonna pay??
@Antione Wang You are making an untrue statement. If PAP who had ruled the country for 55 years also don't know how to pay for its programmes over 6 decades, then Singapore will not be here as a first world state.
Only garment has the accuracy of the number Singapore earn n spending, they should know how to plus n minus n balance ,only themselves know n is always no transparency n how to expect ppl to answer the issue . So funny 🤣
Singapore has no natural resources and is facing an ageing population. Tell me who is going to pay?
@@jasonong5562 Don't you remember PAP has been reminding Singaporean for decades that in time to come one working adult will be supporting two elderlies, and hence need to bring in more immigrants to help in the "support".
Vivi look so stressed
If no intention for 10 mil, why draft the white paper to cushion the mindset of people with a 6.9mil. or is it a deliberate hint.
All oppositions are talented. Great speech by all the oppositions.
Talk easy
I believe Singaporean won't mind paying if it benefit "US", Singaporeans, for our development as a nation and support for our own people, FOR Singaporeans. Instead, we are paying to support not only citizens, but also foreigners living here, technically. They say they're putting Siangporeans first when it comes to jobs but they opening more doors for foreigners instead. Are you telling me that you cannot find local talents? Regards to education, millions of $$ wasted to pay for foreigners education while locals still need to pay for school fees...money to support foreigners that we cannot get back when they refuse to pay back and run away after their education here.
Watching this video now makes me so sad that Dr Chee didnt win Bukit Batok SMC. He shows that he truly cares about Singaporeans by asking the hard questions that not many are daring to ask. The question posed was not even answered and instead phrases such as cheap shot can be used by the minister. Where's the respect and professionalism? Smh
Anything but PAP
Ridout Road...!!!😬🤨😐
Well done Dr Chee! That's the Voices we want in the parliament! 👍👍👍💪💪💪🎉
PAP is clean
He didn't answer the question, lame.
He has delusion
Bala got defensive . Speaks volumes. Dr Chee well done . 👍
Bala speaks base on data. Dr Chee don't even have any data.
Dr Chee, you are brilliant.!
not
Disagree
Brilliant in avoiding the question
The 100Billion was drawing heavily from the reserves - which was saved from previous terms of governments from the Merdeka and Pioneer generation. It all boils down to a single concept, sustainability - "meeting the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs". If the previous cabinets had adopted a similar attitude, we would not be here today comfortably discussing the theoretical premise of checks and balances in the governance, but about much much more dire issues.
Of course, let's take it from the gentlemen that has been unemployed for god knows how long, drawing from the welfare benefits provided by the state to advise us on how we should plan our budget. We need opposition and constructive opposition in parliament. CSJ and SDP does not even remotely come close to that category.
Come on Singaporeans, did we really need this continued and repeated clarification on this fictitious 10 million population number? Anyone who has been paying the slightest attention or had exercised the most basic due dilligence on the matter will know the context in which HSK referenced Liu Thai Ker's comment. We should have higher standards for our opposition too.
Ignorance in the information age is inexcusable.
I find it very rich, that Vivian Balakrishnan is questioning numbers, when he blew the YOG budget off the face of this planet.
Precisely, n not resign frm such grave mistakes? Is all tax payer money. Is our money.
Quite disappointed dr Chee didn’t reply on dr Vivian’s claim of shortage of $16b GST ‘hole’ if GST is abolished.
Stop loosing our sovereign fund. We hv enough by collecting frm so many different channels
I am like watching a rap battle, with a timer and a deejay in the middle. Just that with no beat.
not as good as the east coast rap tho.. east coast rap was the best
SherwinH. Would be great if the RAP could go on and on and on for at least 30 min!
Let us not argue now whether PAP is good or bad for Singapore, or Opposition is good or bad for Singapore. Come next Saturday morning we will all know who and what exactly the voters want. Anyway, I have a belief again that many PAP bashers and or many Opposition supporters exist in such mode of discussions will vote for PAP eventually, because the effect of NIMB will take precedence over courage and sincerity.
Whats NIMB?
@Trex Too: Not In My Backyard.
Chee's statement true
*SINGAPORE SHOULD PLAN FOR POPULATION OF 10 MILLION* www.businesstimes.com.sg/top-stories/singapore-should-plan-for-population-of-10m
*'On the projected population of 6.9 million by 2030, set out in the Government's 2013 Population White Paper, Mr Heng said the number goes beyond how densely populated Singapore would be.* The social space is as important.
Singapore's population density is not excessive, he said, noting that other cities are a lot more crowded in terms of liveable space.
*He cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who said in 2014 that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term.'*
www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng
*URA releases plan to build underground infrastructure ready for 10 million population*
www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2019/04/04/ura-releases-plan-to-build-underground-infrastructure-ready-for-10-million-population/
you are false
Is it true ? I don’t know
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Dr chee speaks very well ,more articulate,,more trenchant,more convincing.If this is a school debate, Dr chee wins hand down.
Time limits are killing the quality of the debate. But it's heartening to see such debates between 2 parties as it shows that we still have people who care enough about our country to step up to challenge the norm and try to make a difference for the better. Bear in mind that Vivian Balakrishnan used to be a voice opposing PAP when he debated with K. Shanmugam.
Bala,you will lose votes and will also affect the PAP as a whole.i believe many of you will lose vote because of you.i pity those better PAP MPs.
Heated exchange ? That is sad commentary. There was no heat there. It was a debate alright.
Fact that one party gets 4.5 min whereas the others only get 1.5 defies my logic but that might be me ...
But 'heated exchange' ? Nothing could be further from that. One politician is asking a question, the other feels the need to defend himself ...
Hope CNN can put only the Opposition parties together to debate. To see how can the opposition give solution or make Singapore a better place. For the present government to pick up some pointers.
Once said: Singapore have no natural resources. But manpower and Singapore talents are important of what it is Singapore once before.
Today imported Foreigners can blah that they built Singapore what it is today. All of us can retire for good to collect cardboard and clean tables. Now Singaporeans are cleaning tables behind back doors.
Stop at 2 was very very successful campaign.
Once I heard not happy can always stay or move out of Singapore.
Is there any data collected... does Singapore knows how many Singaporeans are working overseas now. Are Singapore aware that there are already brain drain long ago. Singaporeans working overseas are what they know and NOT who they know.....to secure a job overseas.
Two important pillars and aspects....
Elderly deserve a better care after struggling so hard for Singapore. But True blood Singaporean nurses resigned and look for better pastures overseas. Now foreign nurses are looking after Singaporeans. Too late to do damage control. Only benefited the foreigners. Future of Singaporeans depends on education. Good, passionate and committed Teachers are giving up because of stress and no life at all. Family life are neglected. Maintaining the KPI. Worst if the immediate bosses and Principal are vindictive. So look for a job much sorted overseas.
These are the 2 areas that is important for True Blue Singaporean to anchor.
It scares to see and shocked in getting married in Singapore.
Before $300 - $500 a ten course dinner.
Prestigious to hold at Mandarin hotel or Shangri lah... costing about $1.200 to $2,000 per table. Now per head cost $300 ... not per table... cannot afford don't get married in Singapore. Was shocked that Singaporean couples are marrying in overseas not in Singapore. ... things have change ... a different ball game.
Should have positive feedback from the ground directly by the Ministries ... not from Grassroots... or only top cream.... or scholars ....
thoughts for the day
Heard of underground Boss ....go to the ground and get first hand news. Go alone not need a bunch of body guards.
All support for Dr Chee
Support PAP
Be a smart Singaporean
Vote PAP
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Yes, Dr. Chee confirmed the facts that many foreigners outpaced Singaporean Jobs. This confirmed by many Singaporeans and they spoke with sadness and tears almost rolled down from their cheeks that foreigners taking away its rice bowl and ruined their survival. The authority shows no concern about the survival of Singaporean lively hood. CECA imported many Indian Chief to help Singapore Develop to a better environment of survival but instead it confused our financial system leading to distress and catastrophic disaster of Singapore Survival.
"Too many cooks spoil the soup; too many Indian chiefs confused our Financial System and destroyed Singapore Survival."
they should have gotten chan chun sing to do this (: he's perfect for this debate
Hahaha
what is the point of this question???
That's his trump card.
Pap keep emphasizing on jobs for singaporeans .then what about ceca ??is the govt going to go back on their word on india govt
To allow the indians to work here without restrictions??
Sadly that’s gonna be the case from now on. There’s nothing here for us Singaporeans as we age.
Not just Indians , a lot of Ang mohs and China ppl are coming here too
I can sense that bala think he is the smartest of all.. Look at him!😂
Dislike to the max
Bala u screwed up YOG budget? Really.. Why are you still in the cabinet
Pap bullying doesnt work anymore. Rideout road is far from the madding crowd.
Nice to have the video of the past and reflect on the present situation.
Any change in Vivian progress and changes in Chee
Ii is not who is in the right but who is on the dot as of today.
Life better 4 years ago or now. Singaporeans struggling for butter and bread. Or competing in this rat race . Now not against another Singaporean but against Foreigners.
For the fact that Vivian Balakrishnan said that we will never get to 6.9 million, it could be a lie. At the rate we're going, the population will definitely hit 6.9 million in my lifetime.
They won’t remember what they said after the election.....
To: Everyone Concerned,
I have done everything right by the book and gotten through the proper channel.
International Organisation of Immigration (IOM) has already prepared all the relevant necessary documentations, purchase my air-ticket and have also ensured/ secured a clear passage of way at the Athens Airport for my seamless repatriation to Singapore. But yet; when the time comes for the MFA to issue the DOI- Document Of Identification, you refused. Outrightly, rejected the IOM’s Proposal for my repatriation without giving any reason why. They were told to refer back to me but I am just as lost, dumbfounded and appalled as the IOM staffs.
I would like to know the reason/s why was my repatriation being rejected and after 6 long tedious months of homelessness and starvation in Greece, what’s the Singapore’s MFA purpose behind it? How long more do you intend to keep me this way? I am a Singaporean and you outrightly refused my repatriation without any clarification nor explanation. I am seeking your clarity on this matter. As my life is hanging on a thread. If I have committed a crime, you should repatriate me to face the consequences but you did neither! Please enlighten me?!? You refused to repatriate me and you refused to revoke my Citizenship?!? I am stuck in a precarious situation here! I believe I have every right to know what is going on and your intentions behind these senseless actions.
Looking forward for your appropriate response.
Your Extremely Disgusted Singaporean,
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Till today still want people pay and pay 😠😠😠😠😠
Now everyone knows he stay ridout at cheap rate,lol
Balakrishan full of rubbish.
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How come bala is wrong?
Roti prata flipping
We need Dr. CHEE in the Parliament! Please vote for him.
No way! Would rather have someone like Jamus Lim, Reesah Khan, Pritam Singh or Nicole Seah. CSJ is a self-serving, back-stabbing prick. Characters like him and that xenophobic POS Lim Tean shouldn’t be in parliament!!
watched almost 2 hours of debate on CNA from the various political parties. A lot of people in the comment sections liked Jamus Lim (wp). But I think his policies are a bit too far left. He wants to raise minimum wage, but he doesn't describe how exactly he will do that. I think his policy will cripple SME's. The guy from PSP said that SME's account for 70%of employment. I think Dr. Chee (SDP) made a good proposal regarding decreasing unemployment. He said there are over 100,000 unemployed in SG right now. However, I'm not sure if it is because of covid 19. But if he is referring to employment even before covid 19 and not just cyclical unemployment, I think he was wise to propose a hold on allowing foreign workers to come in. I think Dr. Chee was very good and pointing out the problems but I didn't agree with him on every solution. They men debating had one thing in common, they agreed to lower rent, I'm not sure if was only for businesses or homes as well. But I think the lowering of rent was a very good idea for businesses. Dr. Chee and guy from PSP kept talking about social benefits for the elderly, while it sounds good, I'm not sure if that could work soon, maybe in the distant future. Because, small businesses are already facing a hard time and the extra money in the economy through elderly welfare may cause inflation rather than stimulation in my opinion, because the elderly may start demanding more than the actual supply, since businesses are relatively slow now. So I'm not exactly sure which candidate is best, but I don't like Jamus Lim's proposal of and increase in wages, at least, not now. I agree with Dr. Chee that less foriegn workers should come in and that money should be granted to unemployed people who qualify to start their own company. I also agree that the weaker schools should get more funding. The guy from PAP mentioned many solutions without any real conclusion as to which scheme he prefers. Dr. Chee said that PAP raised taxes on various items, I also dont think that was a wise idea. But the guy from PAP said that last year was the only year SG GDP was negative in 10 years. I am not sure if it because of the basic laws of the economic cycle, of this was artificial due to the polices of PAP. I would have to do more research. So far, I don't like Worker Party much because I think some of their policies are too far left. I also think PAP has been leaning left recently based on the errors called out Dr. Chee. The who spoke from PSP was very laid back imo, but some of his solutions were very practical. I think Dr. Chee did a good debate but at the end he was accused of lying of a statement made by PAP, about PAP wanting to increase SG to 10 mill people. Again, I hope Singaporeans vote correctly.
Both came from Elite Schools but having Different Mindset,Disagreements & Choices. Matbe both have Participated in School Debate during Their School Days.
Dr Chee what a legend
Should provide more time