Shalom, friends. In the podcast, I quoted a General Authority’s words speaking of the need for less judgment, and more love. Sadly, I was unable to remember his name. Here is the General Conference quote from Elder Alan T. Phillips that truly would, if followed, transform our world: “We can heed President Nelson’s counsel to judge, less, love more…” Thank you Elder Phillips. Thank you for both hearing and heeding the wise words of wisdom from President Nelson’s heart. I wish you grace and peace. 🙏
Rabi Joe, you are not the only one to be blessed to attend all sessions. I'm from New Zealand and it was my first time visiting the USA for the April 2023, General Conference. I am truly grateful, once in a lifetime for me.
This was a fabulous change of pace, figuratively and literally. I feel so blessed to have this podcast/ videocast in my life. Thank you Brother Muhlstein and Rabbi Joe.
Oh what can I say! How inspirational. With deep respect and love Thank you Rabbi for giving me a deeper appreciation of an attitude to enable me to live in this manner with my fellow beings, sons and daughters of Our Heavenly Father. Most Holy One. Thank you❣️
It really was a treat to be with him, wasn't it? He and I spoke on the phone the other day for a long time about how much we enjoyed doing that, not just with each other, but with all of you.
Your discussion was wonderful - a perfect illustration of how deeply pondering the scriptures can bring huge rewards. The real application of Rabbi Charnes' words in todays culture of refusing to acknowledge or give credence to the "other side" would make such a difference in how we treat one another. Recognizing the love and respect Paul was showing in his greetings to those he was writing to must have helped them hear much better what he had to say to them - whether positive or negative.
Thank you, Kerry, for including Rabbi Joe Charnes in this beautiful discussion. I love how the Rabbi speaks of the difference between treating a covenant as a "transaction" rather than an opportunity for "transformation."
Yes, the difference between covenantal transaction and covenantal transformation is crucial. I wish I could claim credit for that insight, but I can’t. That gem of wisdom came from Elder Joachim E.Costa, during the Saturday afternoon session of General Conference. Blessings
Thank you both for sharing this wonderful conversation. You’ve left me feeling challenged and energized to slow down, pay closer attention, do more, be more - all in a most doable, possible way.
I too, enjoyed our dialogue of mutual reflection together. Truly. Both our private study in your office with Professor Ross Baron, when we dug into Genesis 22:1, and on your podcast, as we explored the glories of Colossians 1:2.
Thank you so much. Please tell Rabbi Joe Chames the General Sunday School presidency and board love him. They are as you always encouraging us to receive transformation. The thought came when you were saying Paul was showing formulary for discipleship and after the Oct Conference the word transformation came to mind. Did heaps of sharing it really helped me as I can be the anxious roadrunner type. It really helped me to consider the advice to unpack how the Spirit is trying to convert me. Thank you for your wonderful discussion very helpful to seeing the face of Jesus, as are all your efforts. Grace, peace and love received ditto back with thanks.
We need milk before meat and growth over time. Our constant review and cyclical repetition of scriptures are a valuable aid to spiritual growth. What a great treat this discussion has been.
You will find yourself full of good things as you do this. You might enjoy his interview with the Church News podcast: www.thechurchnews.com/podcast/2023/10/10/23910867/episode-157-rabbi-joe-charnes-power-of-general-conference
I really enjoyed this discussion. I went back through Paul’s letters and marked all the grace, peace, and love…. It’s quite lovely and I want to do better at leaving these feelings with those I share life with. Thank you for drawing this out. Is this rabbi a messianic Jew? Or is he truly just learning and seeing beauty in quite different faiths? Quite amazing either way. Thanks again for a thoughtful discussion ❤️
Shalom marymaybe9858. Thank you so very much for making our dialogue part of your spiritual practice. That must always be the goal of sacred study. I too, have gone through all of Paul’s epistles, focusing on these truly grand themes. The rewards are endless. And no, I am not a messianic rabbi, though I do have many messianic friends. I am simply a rabbi who is open to sacred beauty. Grace and peace to you 😁
It’s so beautiful to learn from each other! Thank you for your example of an open heart and mind. There is so much goodness out there! Thank you for being part of that goodness. You certainly left us all with grace, peace and love ❤️
Thanks for this message. I too want to do better at leaving grace and love and peace wherever I go. Rabbi Charnes is not messianic. He is a very observant Jew who has the ability to appreciate truth and beauty wherever he sees it.
Besides this episode, you may enjoy the Church News Podcast the Rabbi was on: www.thechurchnews.com/podcast/2023/10/10/23910867/episode-157-rabbi-joe-charnes-power-of-general-conference
We LDS can learn from Rabbis the methodology of reading text-PRDS-peshat, remez, derush, sod. The shallow-surface literal readings promoted by LDS correlation (the CES) is abominable.
There are so many ways to do this, but we need to make sure we don't neglect doing some deep dives and really trying to get into it. As Rabbi Charnes said, we need the breadth and depth, but I think it is up to us to get the depth.
Shalom, and ditto to Professor Muhlestein’s words. The depth a person reaches in his or her journey through the scriptures is less dependent on method, and more on the manner in which he or she approaches scripture. Seeking with heart, with a heart that is open to receiving is ultimately what matters in our search for sacred meaning.
Shalom, friends. In the podcast, I quoted a General Authority’s words speaking of the need for less judgment, and more love. Sadly, I was unable to remember his name. Here is the General Conference quote from Elder Alan T. Phillips that truly would, if followed, transform our world:
“We can heed President Nelson’s counsel to judge, less, love more…”
Thank you Elder Phillips. Thank you for both hearing and heeding the wise words of wisdom from President Nelson’s heart. I wish you grace and peace. 🙏
Thank you!
Rabi Joe, you are not the only one to be blessed to attend all sessions. I'm from New Zealand and it was my first time visiting the USA for the April 2023, General Conference. I am truly grateful, once in a lifetime for me.
This was a fabulous change of pace, figuratively and literally. I feel so blessed to have this podcast/ videocast in my life. Thank you Brother Muhlstein and Rabbi Joe.
You are welcome! It was so fun, wasn't it?
Loved this! Bring him back! What a wonderful spirit and smile Rabbi Joe Charnes has 🙂
We will bring him back for sure!
Wonder-Full.
I love the opportunity to hear The Word appreciated from different traditions and perspectives.
Huge blessing.
It’s a also huge blessing to me
Amen to that!!!
Thank you Rabbi Joe. What a great perspective you gave us. Thank you for living your beliefs and helping us to love each other.
Amen!!!
Thank you. And please know that the LDS community is truly an inspiration for me, in my walk with the sacred
@@joecharnes2454 as is the Jewish community for us. We are covenant cousins (or at least we feel so)
Definitely!
Thank you for a very educational podcast. I like to hear more from both of you.❤❤❤
I am so glad it was helpful for you!
We are both on a few other episodes of this podcast. I hope you enjoy them!
Oh what can I say! How inspirational. With deep respect and love Thank you Rabbi for giving me a deeper appreciation of an attitude to enable me to live in this manner with my fellow beings, sons and daughters of Our Heavenly Father. Most Holy One. Thank you❣️
Bless you Starbright47. Keep shining
It really was a treat to be with him, wasn't it? He and I spoke on the phone the other day for a long time about how much we enjoyed doing that, not just with each other, but with all of you.
Thank you both for this awesome and inspiring lesson! I hope to do better at grace, peace and love.
me too!!!!
Me three 😁
We need one another. I'm especially grateful to hear from Rabbi Charnes at this pivotal moment for Israel and the entire world.
Amen!
Thank you for listening, and thank you hearing the message beyond the words
Your discussion was wonderful - a perfect illustration of how deeply pondering the scriptures can bring huge rewards. The real application of Rabbi Charnes' words in todays culture of refusing to acknowledge or give credence to the "other side" would make such a difference in how we treat one another. Recognizing the love and respect Paul was showing in his greetings to those he was writing to must have helped them hear much better what he had to say to them - whether positive or negative.
Amen! Rabbi Charnes's actions preach the sermon even more powerfully than his words!
🙏
What an awesome lesson. We , meaning I, can learn so much thru interfaith discussions. Thank you both!
It is wonderful stuff!!!!
I also left filled with real wonder
I would love to hear fron Rabbi Joe again. I hope we don't really have to wait 4 years!
I think we should try to get him to be on for the BoM, don't you? (hint, hint)
Hint, hint, YES😁
Thank you, Kerry, for including Rabbi Joe Charnes in this beautiful discussion. I love how the Rabbi speaks of the difference between treating a covenant as a "transaction" rather than an opportunity for "transformation."
Yes, the difference between covenantal transaction and covenantal transformation is crucial. I wish I could claim credit for that insight, but I can’t. That gem of wisdom came from Elder Joachim E.Costa, during the Saturday afternoon session of General Conference. Blessings
That is such a powerful idea, isn't it?!
Yes it is! And it would be worthy of an extra podcast!!
@@joecharnes2454 you just tell me when! Covenant is something I can talk about all day every day!
That was too easy, Professor! I was actually planning on begging publicly 🤣
Thank you both for sharing this wonderful conversation. You’ve left me feeling challenged and energized to slow down, pay closer attention, do more, be more - all in a most doable, possible way.
Wonderful! I felt the same way after recording it, and it has been a blessing to me as I have been trying to do better.
🙏🙏🙏
Awesome episode! Thank you! Wonderful guest!
Thank you. May awe, gratitude, and wonder accompany you in life. Shalom
Our pleasure!
Wow I’m glad to hear this my heart has known and tried to get this message through to others, oh how they will see when we all meet in heaven.
Yes, absolutely. My prayer is that they will see while we are still here on earth
Amen! The more we strive for this together the more it will be understood!
Thank you so much for having your guest! I so appreciate Rabbi Charnes' insight.
It was truly and honestly my pleasure to study out loud with him!
I too, enjoyed our dialogue of mutual reflection together. Truly. Both our private study in your office with Professor Ross Baron, when we dug into Genesis 22:1, and on your podcast, as we explored the glories of Colossians 1:2.
@@joecharnes2454 Amen, both were wonderful experiences. I wish we had more time for both of them!
Thank you Rabbi Joe for your perspective...
Yes, thank you so much!
And thank you for having a perspective that allows you to hear wisdom and beauty in the other. Blessings
Thank you so much. Please tell Rabbi Joe Chames the General Sunday School presidency and board love him. They are as you always encouraging us to receive transformation. The thought came when you were saying Paul was showing formulary for discipleship and after the Oct Conference the word transformation came to mind. Did heaps of sharing it really helped me as I can be the anxious roadrunner type. It really helped me to consider the advice to unpack how the Spirit is trying to convert me. Thank you for your wonderful discussion very helpful to seeing the face of Jesus, as are all your efforts. Grace, peace and love received ditto back with thanks.
I’m honored and grateful. Please send my gratitude. And thank you Professor Kerry, for the opportunity to engage in meaningful dialogue
I am so pleased that so many people are being touched by you, and by each other. This is how it should work!
It’s us, friend. Always us
That was a wonderful approach. Thank you!
And may we continue to always approach
Amen!
I enjoyed this uplifting discussion!
I am so glad! So did I! Thank you for joining us in it.
We need milk before meat and growth over time. Our constant review and cyclical repetition of scriptures are a valuable aid to spiritual growth. What a great treat this discussion has been.
Hopefully each time we can go just a little deeper!
Deeper and deeper. Into the depths.
Rabbi, please come to Vegas and teach us here. Thank you for your insight and teach us. Shalom.🙏🏼😊
Absolutely! I would love to!! I actually have friends in Vegas.
It has been wonderful, hasn't it?
Beautiful lesson today. Thank you both!
I am so glad you found it to be helpful!
Scripture is always beautiful. Thank you for receiving its beauty.
Loved this! I'm going to look up Rabbi Joe and see if I can learn more from him both about Judaism and his interfaith perspectives!
Thank you. I’m honored.
You will find yourself full of good things as you do this. You might enjoy his interview with the Church News podcast: www.thechurchnews.com/podcast/2023/10/10/23910867/episode-157-rabbi-joe-charnes-power-of-general-conference
I really enjoyed this discussion. I went back through Paul’s letters and marked all the grace, peace, and love…. It’s quite lovely and I want to do better at leaving these feelings with those I share life with. Thank you for drawing this out.
Is this rabbi a messianic Jew? Or is he truly just learning and seeing beauty in quite different faiths? Quite amazing either way. Thanks again for a thoughtful discussion ❤️
Shalom marymaybe9858. Thank you so very much for making our dialogue part of your spiritual practice. That must always be the goal of sacred study. I too, have gone through all of Paul’s epistles, focusing on these truly grand themes. The rewards are endless.
And no, I am not a messianic rabbi, though I do have many messianic friends. I am simply a rabbi who is open to sacred beauty. Grace and peace to you 😁
It’s so beautiful to learn from each other! Thank you for your example of an open heart and mind. There is so much goodness out there! Thank you for being part of that goodness. You certainly left us all with grace, peace and love ❤️
Thanks for this message. I too want to do better at leaving grace and love and peace wherever I go.
Rabbi Charnes is not messianic. He is a very observant Jew who has the ability to appreciate truth and beauty wherever he sees it.
Oh, now I see that he already answered you.
Besides this episode, you may enjoy the Church News Podcast the Rabbi was on: www.thechurchnews.com/podcast/2023/10/10/23910867/episode-157-rabbi-joe-charnes-power-of-general-conference
We LDS can learn from Rabbis the methodology of reading text-PRDS-peshat, remez, derush, sod. The shallow-surface literal readings promoted by LDS correlation (the CES) is abominable.
There are so many ways to do this, but we need to make sure we don't neglect doing some deep dives and really trying to get into it. As Rabbi Charnes said, we need the breadth and depth, but I think it is up to us to get the depth.
Shalom, and ditto to Professor Muhlestein’s words. The depth a person reaches in his or her journey through the scriptures is less dependent on method, and more on the manner in which he or she approaches scripture. Seeking with heart, with a heart that is open to receiving is ultimately what matters in our search for sacred meaning.
@@joecharnes2454 Amen!