A month ago, I didn't know which candidate I was voting for. Now, I've filled out my ballot and mailed it in. We should approach politics openly without hating either side. I found this podcast awesome: th-cam.com/video/cTnV5RfhIjk/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUUc2FtIGhhcnJpc3Mgc2hhcGlybyA%3D since I respect both Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris, even though they have differing viewpoints. This discussion provided a much needed voice of reason to the discussion where most people talking about the presidential race are not nearly as informed, eloquent, or intelligent, and resort to ad hominem attacks or identity politics. For the comments who feel so strongly that their candidate is the only reasonable candidate, and that anyone who votes the other way is wrong, misinformed, naive, stupid, or whatever, consider that you are the problem. Much love
Did anything change in last month that you had to factor in? If not then I don't see anything wrong with anyone finding it wild (fyi, I don't). American politics is indeed pretty bad, the division and hatred. (Not a citizen, not a immigrant, just a temporary person).
@@ruturaj47 many people in the US think one side is great and the other side is evil. What I'm pointing to is the fact that being undecided until recently (and having done more research on both sides to make a better informed decision) is unusual, as many people for the last several years already knew which side they were voting for, even before the candidates were finalized on each side. The majority of people in the US vote democrat or republican no matter who the candidate is, and see the other side as vile. That's why being undecided until recently is unusual. I'm arguing it should be the norm.
@@jubbalandcars I definitely agree the deciding before knowing candidates and policies is pretty stupid. That wasn't the case here, I don't see the world as black and white but clearly there is distinction in greys. The things that affect me and other, the deception that goes on etc. and to what level. How things changed since 2016, the divide and hatred, the ignorance and conspiracy theories. In a fair world, Trump should have backed down from running, Biden shouldn't have tried to run again, Kamala shouldn't have been a last minute candidate. Good candidates from each party should have gotten a fair chance.
Being a centrist is a very childish way of approaching politics. Adults discover that they need to vote for the lesser evil to have more of the policies they prefer, and politicians follow patterns established by their political party to maintain a stable voter base.
100% agree that policy should be the #1 influence in decision making as a voter. That being said, when a candidate exhibit's a clear lack of morals it would be naive to not take it in to account. What somebody says they will do in office (A.K.A. "Policy") is different from what will actually happen, and part of voting is deciding who's "personality" is best suited for future unforeseen policy decisions.
Some of the best president's we have had did terrible things. JFK left his newborn with family for three years while he ran off to another state. Obama totally ignored his wife's concerns and secretly ran for office, she was miserable for 8 years in the white house. FDR cheated on his wife and later died with the mistress, not his wife. Clinton is.... Clinton. President's are rarely "good people." Yes, you should vote 100 percent on policy, someone having an affair, saying something stupid or having friends that say stupid stuff DOES NOT affect your life. If you're a car guy, voting someone in who let's the executive agencies run wild and sue car parts companies (like the EPA suing COBB and diesel exhaust companies) probably isn't in your best interest. Those policies probably affect you a little more than, "Well, that guy said something that is offensive"
@@ejaokay huh? So Jimmy Carter, who didn't even engage in mudslinging, and George Washington, no explanation required, didn't make the cut of the best presidents but Obama, who started a gaziliion wars, and Clinton, who did the same, did? And JFK leaving his newborn is not a bad thing - you have signed up to be the CEO of the biggest, most powerful and complicated organization on the planet - someone who makes personal sacrifices is a good thing. Compared to Clinton who was more concerned about personal satisfaction and completely destroyed a young woman's life.
Agree with most of things that you have said, but have to disagree that the person that I am voting for does not matter. If the person has a history or lying, corruption, etc, then that is an unethical person and anything that comes out of their mouths has no value. Also, the candidate's intelligence is of utmost importance because talk is cheap and execution at that level requires a high level of intelligence.
100% !! if you don’t embrace that it’s a **HUMAN** that sits in the oval office and makes decisions affecting all of us that live in this country, then … to quote the channel’s host… YOU are part of the problem!
Got German driving culture to emerge they needed literal nazis in power to build autobahns and ss force to enforce strict rules to not overtake on the right and don’t hog left lane… just saying
It's not that they can't think critically, it's just that it's more enjoyable to imagine that all of the problems in the US are caused by brown people. It's really satisfying to have a clear enemy - even if it's just a distraction to keep people from focusing on the ultra-wealthy who are actually making their lives terrible - and that's why Trump is so successful... and why he pretty much only talks about immigration.
@@Brian-or2jy people don't choose fairness. They think they are disadvantaged and vote for policies they believe level the playing field to help their situation.
Wouldn’t integrity be a part of one’s personality? If so, how could you not take that into account… need a POTUS that will do what they say and say what they’ll do.
That’s the issue about integrity though. You’re voting for politicians. You really think politicians have integrity in general? On both sides? You can’t say you vote for integrity when both sides fail at it.
Also, integrity is the highest bar. You’re not judging them on a singular action, a single speech, a single or a few mistakes, you’re judging a huge part of their identity. To be frank, I need efficacy and a basic understanding of values and how they’ll act on major topics. I can’t accurately judge either’s integrity.
Elon is cozying up to Trump to guarantee Tesla's future. Nothing is going away--not the tax credits, not the useless (and often not functioning) infrastructure, not the subsidies, nothing. Trump won't ban ICE engines like Harris, but he won't stop the needless EV cash burn.
We must not allow other countries to beat us technologically. What if we had stuck with horse and buggy when the rest of the world developed automobiles?
@@mikeb9569 How will continuing to destroy the manufacturing in the US and imposing EV mandates, advance the US technologically and allow it to be more competitive? EVs are only the future because the governments are forcing it with over regulations. When did we force manufacturers to make cars instead of horse carriages? We didn't need, because cars were better, which is not as clear with EVs. The market can't choose, because they are forcing the market and paying people.
@@lecoureurdesbois86 Who is destroying manufacturing jobs? Since January 2021, manufacturing employment has grown by 668,000 jobs, which is more than any other year in almost 30 years. Spending on manufacturing construction has doubled since the end of 2021. This is due to a number of factors, including the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), and the CHIPS Act. In late 2022, the U.S. began growing faster than the rest of the world for the first time in a decade. Have you considered the cost of more extreme weather events? I believe that we are causing big changes to the environment and that we are already seeing the results around us. I agree that new stricter emission requirements could be regarded as a de facto "mandate", but regulations are needed because greed is such a big factor that some are willing to endanger the public and the environment. No institution is perfect, but I trust the scientific, environmental and regulatory agencies to make the right decisions.
Love this Kev. I appreciate the thought and approach and think it's cool you posted this! Much more accepting society now vs 2016 or 2020 (if you vote a certain way, lol) which helps encourage this stuff.
First time, I voted third party. Second time, one of the two main parties and this time, I'm voting for the other main party. If anyone's undecided this close to election, probably too late to do thorough research on policies, it's as good as rolling a dice at this point. The reason I'm swinging this cycle is that there have been these crazy shits happening to people in the last decade, and I don't like where it's heading. That's why I'll no longer vote for the party that has been encouraging them. And also many other things.
How was the noise in the cabin for you I felt like u were slightly speaking louder but idk if its for the mic or because ur in the soft top at highway speeds.
This is really the way it should be for all people. The issue is it takes so much work to figure out where you stand on each issue and who aligns most ESPECIALLY now with all of the wrong and bias info online. Most people will never put in the effort required to make an informed decision. Good on you for doing your best to make an informed decision 👍
Dude people are just soooo emotional and that’s how they vote. You’re talking about objectivity when making your voting decision and that takes good mental health, skill, and humility. Lots of people can’t fathom that their party isn’t a shiny perfect political/moral belief system
Hey dude, I also had a very similar situation when I was in Nursing school, regarding a political topic discussion with a certain student in my Nursing group.
You describe voting for a President like it’s the same as shopping for a car. Make a list of policies as if they’re features, then rank and value them. Problem is, leaders often have to make the most difficult and impactful decisions when unexpected events happen. That’s when character matters. Talk is cheap. So are policies, although on that front do your research and do your best to imagine a country where all those policies are in place. Is that where you want to live? And then ask a deeper question: Which candidate would you trust as your immediate neighbor in an unexpected life or death situation? Then decide.
If you are ACTUALLY voting on policies in this election, there has NEVER been any confusion about which candidate to choose. The very fact that you were undecided at any point in this election indicates YOU are in fact part of the problem. The discrepancy between candidates in this race in terms of POLICY POSITIONS has never ever been more clear.
@PointNemo9 One party has zero positive policies and is intent on destroying government's ability to function. Unless you think project 2025 is policy. OP is right, there's no excuse. One of the candidates is a fascist and too many Americans don't care or are also authoritarian.
The states have been gerrymandered into red and blue. Most people are one issue voters regardless of looking at the overall quality of the candidate and they usually vote for their incumbent.
Most things I agree with you on here, but I do have to say that both parties have started taking their own direction compared to what their party affiliation has always been. The Democrats have gone far left, and Trump has really transformed the Republicans Party into its entirely new sector. Most Democrats are sticking Democrat still, regardless of how their parties direction is heading. But there are a lot of old school Republicans that have left, and still are leaving, their party because they don’t align with how it’s transforming with Trump. I personally align with Trump because all of his major issues, I’ve always aligned with my entire life. Especially immigration. I grew up in San Diego and have been surrounded by illegal immigrants my entire life and always felt like there needed to be something more done about it. It wasn’t until Trump that the Republicans party started taking that more serious. And look where it got Trump! He became President in 2016, and has been around since then! That shows me that there is a vast amount of people in the country that care about it the same way but because our politicians on both sides have failed this nation miserably for decades, our voices went silent.
@@Togairu if you've seen how long we've been abusing our economy, the long term damage is already here and getting worse. One day it's going to manifest and it's going to be a lot worse than some immigrants asking for public services.
I am 43 years old. I have been a car enthusiast since 13 years old. It’s a hobby of mine. But I recognize that most people at my age do not share the same type of car enthusiasm as I do. It usually runs with people, mostly men, who are younger because they have the time and energy to put towards the enjoyment of vehicles in general. As far as politics are concerned, I have always voted for policy…not for personality. Policy imo, is the much greater factor to be basing your vote on. What aligns with your life and your own values should be taken into consideration. Voting using critical thinking and common sense, instead of using your emotional side of your brain, is more important, imo. I’m aware that this is not something the younger crowd understands yet, because they haven’t lived through much life experience yet to realize the importance of daily things yet. But when you get older, you start realizing how important certain aspects surrounding you in regards to day-to-day life. These things are more important than basing most things off of your “feelings“. Vote with your brain and not with your feelings.
I’d agree if this was a normal election but it is absolutely insane to me that one side is saying rhetoric from the 1930s with modern terms and are talking about wanting to implement policy similar to that era.
One candidate has been denounced by almost every cabinet member they have and by the generals they worked with and have been both indicted and found guilty by a jury of their peers. I cannot agree that both are in any level playing field with regards to character.
I think the regret from cycles ago came when there was a realization that certain elected roles have given powers to enact policies at a flick of a wrist (which could be overturned later but damage can be done till that process goes through its motions) and then there's the lifetime position appointments like Supreme Court justices; not an undo button for that - so we're hoping, if we're all thinking about moderates, that we do have people and policies a bit left and right, as well as those who are in the middle too. no silver bullet but a bit more than just policy positions to think about is what I realized.
Frankly, I'm not voting for the presidential candidate. Majority of my vote will go to the props here in CA. I really don't like either candidates. To be honest, the only strong opinion Jubbal would have is in regards to Steering 😂😂
I make voting decisions by weighting the policies of the candidates. If Candidate A has 3 policies I agree with and these are my top priorities they will probably get my vote even if I agree with Candidate B on 5 policies but these are of lesser importance to me, and I strongly disagree with their positions on my top 3 priorities. I believe this is the best way to vote, but am shocked when I hear about people who vote for a particular candidate because they liked them more than the other with little regard to their policy positions.
I have to disagree with the idea that if you vote the same way every election cycle you’re somehow not a critical thinker. The party platforms don’t magically flip every cycle. They might move a bit one way or another, but Democrats haven’t suddenly come out against abortion. Republicans aren’t suddenly super in favor of banning guns. If your values aren’t flipping year to year, then there isn’t a reason why you’d vote differently from one election to another. Absolutely, do your research into the candidates’ (and parties’) platforms, but most people vote the same way every year because the parties haven’t changed their stances on that voter’s one or five core issues.
the idea isn't that you should flip flop. the idea is that if your beliefs perfectly align with one of two ends of a spectrum (democrat or republican), then you must ask yourself, is it your own critical thinking and curiosity that brought you into exact alignment with one political party versus the other, or something else?
@ I think if you pressed most voters on either side you’d be able to find places that they don’t agree with their party, even if they say they perfectly align. If you’re allowing the party to dictate your beliefs, then yeah, I think that person is pretty dumb. But we don’t have enough options to find a party that perfectly aligns with people’s beliefs. The parties have broadly aligned themselves around core beliefs that people would have outside of politics, so once you know your own core beliefs, it’s not that hard to choose one party year after year, even if you don’t align with them on smaller issues.
@@jubbalandcars Your logic makes a lot more sense for local elections, but national politics is the same every election cycle. Most people don't agree with a party on every issue, they just know that they are closer to it ideologically.
people don't realize....at best you will have another descent 4 years, and then the momentum of where the world is going will resume. So whatever happens, don't waste these next 4 years being stagnant like most always have.
I agree on voting the policies. Unfortunately it seems that's not how most people make their decision. Personally I have never voted because I feel like doing so would be giving consent to a rigged electoral process. Third parties have no realistic chance of winning and the primaries of both major parties are controlled by party elites. Being allowed to choose one corrupt establishment candidate versus the other is not an actual choice. If we had an open process where third parties could realistically compete, I would vote. Maybe if more people took a principled stance instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, we would have actual reform.
Go vote, even if you do it just to write in Mickey Mouse do it. Don't let your ballot be mishandled by anyone other than you. There is nothing wrong with write-in ballots, there is everything wrong with unused ballots.
I have already seen the movie from one candidate, the concept of plans were not implemented or were deceiving. Do I think the other candidate is good, nope but less worse. It's crazy that this country always comes down to 2 seemingly worst candidates since 2016.
it is a battle of choosing who you think is the lesser evil. it's about who do you dislike/hate less, rather than who do you like. sad state of affairs
You have seen two full administrations, one from each candidate, and you can’t tell which one oversaw a more prosperous, safer country?? Are you kidding??
@@Johnfisher12345 tell me. I saw a candidate inherit flourishing economy, mess it up during covid, print ton of money causing inflation, threatened OPEC to reduce production which is still affecting gas prices. The next administration also printed money but not as much. Should I be naive as you? And blame just current administration for inflation and gas prices, and ignore what actually caused it?
@@jubbalandcars That's the reality of democracy and it has always been that way. Americans act as though voting is sacred but the reality is that it makes no difference to how the country is governed by the elite.
Agree that we need to stop the tribalism and focus on the individual issues and how to come together to solve them. But I do also agree with comments below regarding overall character. When someone cannot even tell the truth then their policies are moot.
I disagree that that renders anything irrelevant. Lying and denying stops any rational discussion on the issues. Until that stops then you cannot move forward.
@@jubbalandcarswhile I agree both parties are guilty of it but you have to look at how many lies, type of lies, intentions etc. if someone says 'a school shooting was staged or never happened' would it be same as saying 'there is no inflation'?
Regardless of which side lies or exaggerates more, I still maintain policy as the most important factor, whereas it seems many in the comments focus on character as the most important thing. I find the character of both candidates flawed
@@jubbalandcars you are again doing the same thing, flawed character isn't binary thing, how much flawed maters. I can go to a doctor or clown for surgery, death is a possibility in both case, does than mean I shouldn't consider the degree?
Neither candidate is willing to uphold my rights. So I'm not voting. I don't consent. This stance makes people WAY more angry with me than if I said I vote for x or y.
they're angry because the only thing that makes them happy is you voting for their candidate. either not voting or voting for the enemy enrages these close-minded folk
@@aussieexpatIf you want a candidate willing to uphold the bill of rights it's probably not going to be the candidate that said he'd be willing to terminate the constitution.
@Woodsnat both have said they don't care about the constitution. But more importantly, when given power they acted on it and did restrict rights. Both are tyrants.
As an EU viwer I cry in US highway lane etiquette hehe, but yea, same here. "Discussions" are usually just dick measuring contests, where policies are not the way to persuade the voter. Sad, no idea how to change it tho.
As an American who has been driving for 32 years, I can tell you most of the passing lane blockers are 3rd world immigrants and the medicated-elderly. That's why the problem has gotten exponentially worse over the last 15 years.
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A month ago, I didn't know which candidate I was voting for. Now, I've filled out my ballot and mailed it in. We should approach politics openly without hating either side.
I found this podcast awesome: th-cam.com/video/cTnV5RfhIjk/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUUc2FtIGhhcnJpc3Mgc2hhcGlybyA%3D since I respect both Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris, even though they have differing viewpoints. This discussion provided a much needed voice of reason to the discussion where most people talking about the presidential race are not nearly as informed, eloquent, or intelligent, and resort to ad hominem attacks or identity politics.
For the comments who feel so strongly that their candidate is the only reasonable candidate, and that anyone who votes the other way is wrong, misinformed, naive, stupid, or whatever, consider that you are the problem.
Much love
Did anything change in last month that you had to factor in? If not then I don't see anything wrong with anyone finding it wild (fyi, I don't). American politics is indeed pretty bad, the division and hatred. (Not a citizen, not a immigrant, just a temporary person).
@@ruturaj47 many people in the US think one side is great and the other side is evil. What I'm pointing to is the fact that being undecided until recently (and having done more research on both sides to make a better informed decision) is unusual, as many people for the last several years already knew which side they were voting for, even before the candidates were finalized on each side. The majority of people in the US vote democrat or republican no matter who the candidate is, and see the other side as vile. That's why being undecided until recently is unusual. I'm arguing it should be the norm.
@@jubbalandcars I definitely agree the deciding before knowing candidates and policies is pretty stupid. That wasn't the case here, I don't see the world as black and white but clearly there is distinction in greys. The things that affect me and other, the deception that goes on etc. and to what level. How things changed since 2016, the divide and hatred, the ignorance and conspiracy theories. In a fair world, Trump should have backed down from running, Biden shouldn't have tried to run again, Kamala shouldn't have been a last minute candidate. Good candidates from each party should have gotten a fair chance.
Being a centrist is a very childish way of approaching politics. Adults discover that they need to vote for the lesser evil to have more of the policies they prefer, and politicians follow patterns established by their political party to maintain a stable voter base.
100% agree that policy should be the #1 influence in decision making as a voter. That being said, when a candidate exhibit's a clear lack of morals it would be naive to not take it in to account. What somebody says they will do in office (A.K.A. "Policy") is different from what will actually happen, and part of voting is deciding who's "personality" is best suited for future unforeseen policy decisions.
Spot on
Some of the best president's we have had did terrible things. JFK left his newborn with family for three years while he ran off to another state. Obama totally ignored his wife's concerns and secretly ran for office, she was miserable for 8 years in the white house. FDR cheated on his wife and later died with the mistress, not his wife. Clinton is.... Clinton. President's are rarely "good people." Yes, you should vote 100 percent on policy, someone having an affair, saying something stupid or having friends that say stupid stuff DOES NOT affect your life. If you're a car guy, voting someone in who let's the executive agencies run wild and sue car parts companies (like the EPA suing COBB and diesel exhaust companies) probably isn't in your best interest. Those policies probably affect you a little more than, "Well, that guy said something that is offensive"
@@ejaokay huh? So Jimmy Carter, who didn't even engage in mudslinging, and George Washington, no explanation required, didn't make the cut of the best presidents but Obama, who started a gaziliion wars, and Clinton, who did the same, did? And JFK leaving his newborn is not a bad thing - you have signed up to be the CEO of the biggest, most powerful and complicated organization on the planet - someone who makes personal sacrifices is a good thing. Compared to Clinton who was more concerned about personal satisfaction and completely destroyed a young woman's life.
Agree with most of things that you have said, but have to disagree that the person that I am voting for does not matter. If the person has a history or lying, corruption, etc, then that is an unethical person and anything that comes out of their mouths has no value. Also, the candidate's intelligence is of utmost importance because talk is cheap and execution at that level requires a high level of intelligence.
Whole heartedly agree
100% !!
if you don’t embrace that it’s a **HUMAN** that sits in the oval office and makes decisions affecting all of us that live in this country, then … to quote the channel’s host… YOU are part of the problem!
most politicians are lying, cheating and corrupt, but here we have one that is a convicted felon.
I'll vote for whoever promises to put lane hogs in prison.
Cruising in the left-lane while the right-lane is empty? Spend the night in jail.
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And he just sends an emoji. Smh.
Got German driving culture to emerge they needed literal nazis in power to build autobahns and ss force to enforce strict rules to not overtake on the right and don’t hog left lane… just saying
this would get +10 points on my political issue tally
I think most people cannot think critically. Why else would people vote for candidates that implement policies that impact them negatively.
Mountains of social science experiments show people choose fairness over max personal benefit. People are not just selfish self-maximizing robots.
@Brian-or2jy Interesting. Maybe this is why political ads are the way they are. Weirdly, by voting, we favor one side over the other.
It's not that they can't think critically, it's just that it's more enjoyable to imagine that all of the problems in the US are caused by brown people. It's really satisfying to have a clear enemy - even if it's just a distraction to keep people from focusing on the ultra-wealthy who are actually making their lives terrible - and that's why Trump is so successful... and why he pretty much only talks about immigration.
@@Brian-or2jy people don't choose fairness. They think they are disadvantaged and vote for policies they believe level the playing field to help their situation.
SLOW CLAP: You are a rarity - the informed voter.
This PSA was needed. Well done sir. Well done.
Wouldn’t integrity be a part of one’s personality? If so, how could you not take that into account… need a POTUS that will do what they say and say what they’ll do.
..with this being said, Trump is the only candidate.
No one knows what Kamala stands for.
That’s the issue about integrity though. You’re voting for politicians. You really think politicians have integrity in general? On both sides? You can’t say you vote for integrity when both sides fail at it.
Also, integrity is the highest bar. You’re not judging them on a singular action, a single speech, a single or a few mistakes, you’re judging a huge part of their identity. To be frank, I need efficacy and a basic understanding of values and how they’ll act on major topics. I can’t accurately judge either’s integrity.
Only one candidate wants to destroy cars as we know it. One will remove the EV mandate, the other will guarantee it. Absolute tragedy.
Elon is cozying up to Trump to guarantee Tesla's future. Nothing is going away--not the tax credits, not the useless (and often not functioning) infrastructure, not the subsidies, nothing. Trump won't ban ICE engines like Harris, but he won't stop the needless EV cash burn.
We must not allow other countries to beat us technologically. What if we had stuck with horse and buggy when the rest of the world developed automobiles?
@@mikeb9569 How will continuing to destroy the manufacturing in the US and imposing EV mandates, advance the US technologically and allow it to be more competitive?
EVs are only the future because the governments are forcing it with over regulations. When did we force manufacturers to make cars instead of horse carriages? We didn't need, because cars were better, which is not as clear with EVs. The market can't choose, because they are forcing the market and paying people.
@@lecoureurdesbois86 Who is destroying manufacturing jobs? Since January 2021, manufacturing employment has grown by 668,000 jobs, which is more than any other year in almost 30 years. Spending on manufacturing construction has doubled since the end of 2021. This is due to a number of factors, including the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), and the CHIPS Act. In late 2022, the U.S. began growing faster than the rest of the world for the first time in a decade.
Have you considered the cost of more extreme weather events? I believe that we are causing big changes to the environment and that we are already seeing the results around us. I agree that new stricter emission requirements could be regarded as a de facto "mandate", but regulations are needed because greed is such a big factor that some are willing to endanger the public and the environment. No institution is perfect, but I trust the scientific, environmental and regulatory agencies to make the right decisions.
I appreciate the open discourse, we need more of this if we are to evolve.
George Washington warned about reliance on political parties and here we are...
Love this Kev. I appreciate the thought and approach and think it's cool you posted this! Much more accepting society now vs 2016 or 2020 (if you vote a certain way, lol) which helps encourage this stuff.
First time, I voted third party. Second time, one of the two main parties and this time, I'm voting for the other main party. If anyone's undecided this close to election, probably too late to do thorough research on policies, it's as good as rolling a dice at this point. The reason I'm swinging this cycle is that there have been these crazy shits happening to people in the last decade, and I don't like where it's heading. That's why I'll no longer vote for the party that has been encouraging them. And also many other things.
I agree. I don't rock with any of them 100% but I'll choose who I align with the most.
How was the noise in the cabin for you I felt like u were slightly speaking louder but idk if its for the mic or because ur in the soft top at highway speeds.
Club soft top is pretty loud on highway. Similar levels to my old FRS, around 78db sometimes 80 on rough roads. GT def quieter
This is really the way it should be for all people. The issue is it takes so much work to figure out where you stand on each issue and who aligns most ESPECIALLY now with all of the wrong and bias info online. Most people will never put in the effort required to make an informed decision. Good on you for doing your best to make an informed decision 👍
Dude people are just soooo emotional and that’s how they vote. You’re talking about objectivity when making your voting decision and that takes good mental health, skill, and humility. Lots of people can’t fathom that their party isn’t a shiny perfect political/moral belief system
Hey dude, I also had a very similar situation when I was in Nursing school, regarding a political topic discussion with a certain student in my Nursing group.
I’m not even American and listened through the whole video lol
You describe voting for a President like it’s the same as shopping for a car. Make a list of policies as if they’re features, then rank and value them. Problem is, leaders often have to make the most difficult and impactful decisions when unexpected events happen. That’s when character matters. Talk is cheap. So are policies, although on that front do your research and do your best to imagine a country where all those policies are in place. Is that where you want to live? And then ask a deeper question: Which candidate would you trust as your immediate neighbor in an unexpected life or death situation? Then decide.
Yep that’s why I’m voting for trump
Reason why voting for Trump, in your logic, is the best choice 👍
If you are ACTUALLY voting on policies in this election, there has NEVER been any confusion about which candidate to choose. The very fact that you were undecided at any point in this election indicates YOU are in fact part of the problem. The discrepancy between candidates in this race in terms of POLICY POSITIONS has never ever been more clear.
Ok buddy
This is a joke right? I have no idea whatsoever which candidate you are referring to 😂
@PointNemo9 One party has zero positive policies and is intent on destroying government's ability to function. Unless you think project 2025 is policy. OP is right, there's no excuse. One of the candidates is a fascist and too many Americans don't care or are also authoritarian.
@@jubbalandcars he's got a point, if you're seriously undecided at this point in the election you haven't done any research about policy positions
@@jubbalandcars you seem mad that you got called out for being a spineless fence rider
The states have been gerrymandered into red and blue. Most people are one issue voters regardless of looking at the overall quality of the candidate and they usually vote for their incumbent.
Make driving great again!
Most things I agree with you on here, but I do have to say that both parties have started taking their own direction compared to what their party affiliation has always been. The Democrats have gone far left, and Trump has really transformed the Republicans Party into its entirely new sector. Most Democrats are sticking Democrat still, regardless of how their parties direction is heading. But there are a lot of old school Republicans that have left, and still are leaving, their party because they don’t align with how it’s transforming with Trump.
I personally align with Trump because all of his major issues, I’ve always aligned with my entire life. Especially immigration. I grew up in San Diego and have been surrounded by illegal immigrants my entire life and always felt like there needed to be something more done about it. It wasn’t until Trump that the Republicans party started taking that more serious. And look where it got Trump! He became President in 2016, and has been around since then! That shows me that there is a vast amount of people in the country that care about it the same way but because our politicians on both sides have failed this nation miserably for decades, our voices went silent.
I think immigration is becoming a lot of people's #1 issue, myself included. I also grew up in socal. It's insane.
Democrats are not far left at all
@@Togairu poor monetary/fiscal policy is destroying our country more than immigration.
@HaloDude557 sure but we have faced economic crisis before. The difference is the long term damage.
@@Togairu if you've seen how long we've been abusing our economy, the long term damage is already here and getting worse. One day it's going to manifest and it's going to be a lot worse than some immigrants asking for public services.
I am 43 years old. I have been a car enthusiast since 13 years old. It’s a hobby of mine. But I recognize that most people at my age do not share the same type of car enthusiasm as I do. It usually runs with people, mostly men, who are younger because they have the time and energy to put towards the enjoyment of vehicles in general.
As far as politics are concerned, I have always voted for policy…not for personality. Policy imo, is the much greater factor to be basing your vote on. What aligns with your life and your own values should be taken into consideration. Voting using critical thinking and common sense, instead of using your emotional side of your brain, is more important, imo. I’m aware that this is not something the younger crowd understands yet, because they haven’t lived through much life experience yet to realize the importance of daily things yet. But when you get older, you start realizing how important certain aspects surrounding you in regards to day-to-day life. These things are more important than basing most things off of your “feelings“.
Vote with your brain and not with your feelings.
Always gotta be nonpartisan and impartial sadly we are the minority
To anybody upset by this video: “Your thoughts are not your own”
I’d agree if this was a normal election but it is absolutely insane to me that one side is saying rhetoric from the 1930s with modern terms and are talking about wanting to implement policy similar to that era.
that's false, and you're wrong
neither side is as good and perfect as you think. neither side is as bad and deplorable as you think
@ I agree both aren’t good and perfect, but one side is pretty bad
One candidate has been denounced by almost every cabinet member they have and by the generals they worked with and have been both indicted and found guilty by a jury of their peers. I cannot agree that both are in any level playing field with regards to character.
Yet he's a complete shill for Israel?
@@jubbalandcarsyikes.
I think the regret from cycles ago came when there was a realization that certain elected roles have given powers to enact policies at a flick of a wrist (which could be overturned later but damage can be done till that process goes through its motions) and then there's the lifetime position appointments like Supreme Court justices; not an undo button for that - so we're hoping, if we're all thinking about moderates, that we do have people and policies a bit left and right, as well as those who are in the middle too. no silver bullet but a bit more than just policy positions to think about is what I realized.
Frankly, I'm not voting for the presidential candidate.
Majority of my vote will go to the props here in CA.
I really don't like either candidates.
To be honest, the only strong opinion Jubbal would have is in regards to Steering 😂😂
I make voting decisions by weighting the policies of the candidates. If Candidate A has 3 policies I agree with and these are my top priorities they will probably get my vote even if I agree with Candidate B on 5 policies but these are of lesser importance to me, and I strongly disagree with their positions on my top 3 priorities. I believe this is the best way to vote, but am shocked when I hear about people who vote for a particular candidate because they liked them more than the other with little regard to their policy positions.
Doesn't work because politicians just lie to get elected
I have to disagree with the idea that if you vote the same way every election cycle you’re somehow not a critical thinker. The party platforms don’t magically flip every cycle. They might move a bit one way or another, but Democrats haven’t suddenly come out against abortion. Republicans aren’t suddenly super in favor of banning guns. If your values aren’t flipping year to year, then there isn’t a reason why you’d vote differently from one election to another.
Absolutely, do your research into the candidates’ (and parties’) platforms, but most people vote the same way every year because the parties haven’t changed their stances on that voter’s one or five core issues.
the idea isn't that you should flip flop. the idea is that if your beliefs perfectly align with one of two ends of a spectrum (democrat or republican), then you must ask yourself, is it your own critical thinking and curiosity that brought you into exact alignment with one political party versus the other, or something else?
@ I think if you pressed most voters on either side you’d be able to find places that they don’t agree with their party, even if they say they perfectly align. If you’re allowing the party to dictate your beliefs, then yeah, I think that person is pretty dumb. But we don’t have enough options to find a party that perfectly aligns with people’s beliefs. The parties have broadly aligned themselves around core beliefs that people would have outside of politics, so once you know your own core beliefs, it’s not that hard to choose one party year after year, even if you don’t align with them on smaller issues.
@@jubbalandcars Your logic makes a lot more sense for local elections, but national politics is the same every election cycle. Most people don't agree with a party on every issue, they just know that they are closer to it ideologically.
Lol, if muricans were reasonable, Chump would be enjoying his retirement on the golf course right now
people don't realize....at best you will have another descent 4 years, and then the momentum of where the world is going will resume. So whatever happens, don't waste these next 4 years being stagnant like most always have.
I agree on voting the policies. Unfortunately it seems that's not how most people make their decision. Personally I have never voted because I feel like doing so would be giving consent to a rigged electoral process. Third parties have no realistic chance of winning and the primaries of both major parties are controlled by party elites. Being allowed to choose one corrupt establishment candidate versus the other is not an actual choice. If we had an open process where third parties could realistically compete, I would vote. Maybe if more people took a principled stance instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, we would have actual reform.
Go vote, even if you do it just to write in Mickey Mouse do it. Don't let your ballot be mishandled by anyone other than you. There is nothing wrong with write-in ballots, there is everything wrong with unused ballots.
I have already seen the movie from one candidate, the concept of plans were not implemented or were deceiving. Do I think the other candidate is good, nope but less worse. It's crazy that this country always comes down to 2 seemingly worst candidates since 2016.
it is a battle of choosing who you think is the lesser evil. it's about who do you dislike/hate less, rather than who do you like. sad state of affairs
@jubbalandcars crazy how millions of people are there and people have to do that
You have seen two full administrations, one from each candidate, and you can’t tell which one oversaw a more prosperous, safer country?? Are you kidding??
@@Johnfisher12345 tell me. I saw a candidate inherit flourishing economy, mess it up during covid, print ton of money causing inflation, threatened OPEC to reduce production which is still affecting gas prices. The next administration also printed money but not as much. Should I be naive as you? And blame just current administration for inflation and gas prices, and ignore what actually caused it?
@@jubbalandcars That's the reality of democracy and it has always been that way. Americans act as though voting is sacred but the reality is that it makes no difference to how the country is governed by the elite.
When are you going to figure out that you haven't got everything figured out?
Agree that we need to stop the tribalism and focus on the individual issues and how to come together to solve them. But I do also agree with comments below regarding overall character. When someone cannot even tell the truth then their policies are moot.
Irrelevant since both sides are guilty of this
I disagree that that renders anything irrelevant. Lying and denying stops any rational discussion on the issues. Until that stops then you cannot move forward.
@@jubbalandcarswhile I agree both parties are guilty of it but you have to look at how many lies, type of lies, intentions etc. if someone says 'a school shooting was staged or never happened' would it be same as saying 'there is no inflation'?
Regardless of which side lies or exaggerates more, I still maintain policy as the most important factor, whereas it seems many in the comments focus on character as the most important thing. I find the character of both candidates flawed
@@jubbalandcars you are again doing the same thing, flawed character isn't binary thing, how much flawed maters. I can go to a doctor or clown for surgery, death is a possibility in both case, does than mean I shouldn't consider the degree?
cheap gas prices are coming
Oh really?
@@Tachyon836 Bigly
Sir, the enlightened moderate opinion piece has hit the Jubbal
Neither candidate is willing to uphold my rights. So I'm not voting. I don't consent.
This stance makes people WAY more angry with me than if I said I vote for x or y.
they're angry because the only thing that makes them happy is you voting for their candidate. either not voting or voting for the enemy enrages these close-minded folk
if you're not willing to dictate what those rights are then id imagine people would be angry with you
@Woodsnat what do you mean? I'm talking about the ones enumerated in the bill of rights.
@@aussieexpatIf you want a candidate willing to uphold the bill of rights it's probably not going to be the candidate that said he'd be willing to terminate the constitution.
@Woodsnat both have said they don't care about the constitution. But more importantly, when given power they acted on it and did restrict rights. Both are tyrants.
As an EU viwer I cry in US highway lane etiquette hehe, but yea, same here. "Discussions" are usually just dick measuring contests, where policies are not the way to persuade the voter. Sad, no idea how to change it tho.
As an American who has been driving for 32 years, I can tell you most of the passing lane blockers are 3rd world immigrants and the medicated-elderly. That's why the problem has gotten exponentially worse over the last 15 years.
TRUMP 2024
No pro white candidates, no vote
Based