I just love the way he says “Would Kimball and Oliver traded the lives of hundreds of soldiers for absolute control of Hoover Dam? Oh yes.” It’s funny because it is definitely true despite how much Kimball and Oliver might try to hide it
Another thing I love about New Vegas is that it rewards the player for actually using their brain.Fallout 4 just has you running around shooting things and going from point A to B.In New Vegas and even in a lot of quest in Fallout 3 there are multiple ways to approach a quest.This probably isn’t the best example but take the mission that Colonel Moore of the NCR gives to you that has you wipe out the brotherhood of steel.You can do as she asks and either kill them yourself or activate the self destruct sequence in their bunker, after doing all their quests and becoming a member of the brotherhood you can tell Elder McNamara that the NCR wants to destroy them and he will offer a truce to the NCR in exchange they will send troops out to support them at Hoover Dam, or you can just avoid all of that and work with Yes Man so you can just leave them alone.But the sheer number of options you have.As well as when you meet Benny.You can kill him right then and there, in his suite,if you a female you can have sex with him and kill him in his sleep, you can let him run off and get captured at the fort with the platinum chip and then you get to decide how you want him to die, or you can decide to work with him.Those aren’t even all the options to the side quest either.And some outcomes of quest don’t even get labeled in your pip boy
@@mateoreyes6921 yeah I wish there were easier ways to sort things out rather then fighting.I mean it’s not some video game where you get to confront the final boss.Like Franklin Roosevelt wasn’t gonna speech check Hitler into stoping the Holocaust but I feel like there are other ways to resolve conflicts other than fighting or even talking.It’s just sad seeing some of the conditions veterans come home to as well, these people have been most likely scarred for life from things they have seen and yet they can’t even get a thank you.I always make sure to respect veterans or even serving soldiers because they have a lot more damn courage then I could dream of having.
@@noahhamel6689 they give you so many ways to handle problems, you can be a confirmed bachelor to get Benny or you can just wait for him to be in the legion camp. The game is entirely fine with you just killing everyone you meet. Part of RPGs is giving the player options on how they want to solve problems and NV gives massive amounts of options. Also it's nice that no character is essential and anyone you come across can be killed and the game will still work. Quests may break, but the player should understand that's just how it goes if you kill the quest giver.
@@noahhamel6689 I like the fact that getting the Brotherhood to ally with the NCR actually gets you INFAMY with the NCR rather than Fame, because the NCR don't like the Brotherhood and Colonel Moore hates the idea of not only working with the people who've spent years fighting them but also having to sift through a mountain of paperwork and alliance treaties and stuff.
House is a very compelling character, a skilled salesman and businessman, and a technological genius. He can be a blessing for the Mojave ... but also a huge threat. I think the pivotal factor is the Courier. The Courier must be someone who holds House accountable, who challenges him, and who is not afraid of speaking against House if his moves become questionable. After all, House is a single human being. Human beings can lose their way, no matter how brilliant they are. That's why a wise ruler is fully OK with constructive and honest criticism.
@@Ketaruz Yeah, if the ending slides are anything to go by Mr. House appears to allow himself to be flexible for the Courier's wishes. Just the fact that a negative Karma Courier has a different result for the wasteland than positive Karma with Mr. House shows he respects Courier Six as his right hand man.
@@LordSerion because both Ulysses and House want the old world to finally die. The difference between them is that Ulysses goes full "return to monke" (the only system he doesn't explicitely reject is the primitive tribes system he was born in) when House goes Imperium of Man.
@@TheZeroHeader i think it's more canonically your a 10 in intelligence like him so like his competitors before the war he sees you as a equal but unlike his competitors you help his goals making him think ah iv got a smart capable agent who i like and can hold a decent intellectual convo with.
@@coromo4978 You're thinking of anarchism, which diverges from libertarianism on the question of capitalism. To a modern libertarian, Mr. House is expressing his individuality to the fullest, having full right to use his private property however he chooses to. It really depends if you see him as an unusually powerful businessman or a de facto government.
@@albertskoften1452 hes a businessman. He made the strip, he made the securitrons, he made new vegas what it is. The strip belongs to him, like he says. It just so happens that people made houses near his property and consents to live under HIS authority. (My house MY rules) I fully support House in wanting to enforce his sovereignty from foreign powers that want to take it away like the Legion and the NCR There is no rule that says a businessman can't fill the role as a government leader. Mr house also isn't a dictator, he won't dictate what you do in your life. He will leave you alone and let you fall into a drug addiction for all he cares, just as long as you don't touch his stuff.
For a man far from political, one that would be probably be described with the words libertarian or anarchist, who worries more about how I can help this world and it’s people over what life I really end up with; I’d back this dude in a heartbeat if I was the courier. For one single man he holds true to his end goal, and his choices really do reflect someone using logic and progress over someone wanting to just hurt, kill or become deified. Where every faction is trying to win a war Mr. House was the only one that isn’t. NCR and Legion would have you kill him for their own greed. House just wants to control New Vegas and wants the ability to protect it. House knows he’s of high value (one of the actual best, last hope for humanity) and doesn’t want to lose all that he worked for or the opportunity to help save the world. Kid me went NCR because I couldn’t kill the BoS. But adult me knows the BoS are shitbags that sing a good tune and the NCR are no better than my own government that I’m beginning to despise. I killed the only dude in game who was more of a main character than the courier as a child.
Ironically, his points have only gotten stronger over the years. A shame few are as intelligent as they are wealthy...too many wealthy squander the opportunity to champion a true vision. House knows how to play the game long-term. The legion is way too short term, and the NCR plays too slow a game for either side. We got shot in the head twice, competent though we may be for an independent future.
@@JimboMarsh Which is why either a Monarchy or Republic is best. It’s evident most humans don’t really care/think of bigger things like helping an entire country or realizing compromise is necessary to achieve it, they simply care for themselves and what will benefit them. Most people need a leader who can make decisions for them, but, with power comes a grand responsibility of not abusing it. It’s what America needs today, a person with a stout vision and a want to help people regardless of bribes or threats, and one who will actually focus on us, rather than other countries. Every country has a “parent”, so why should the USA act as if a parent is needed?
"Is a man not entitled to the sweat upon his brow? No, says the man in Shady Sands, it belongs to his government, to the bureaucrats! No, says the man in Flagstaff, it belongs to his Lord, his King! No, says the man in the Hidden Valley, it belongs to his uplifted betters, to the chosen elite! I chose something different. I chose... New Vegas!"
And to add to the joke, Mr. House was voiced by Rene Auberjonois while Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimerman, who starred together on _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ as the mutual antagonists of Constable Odo and Quark respectively.
The Master : I want to unite the wasteland by turning everybody into extremely resilient super mutants The Enclave : We want to purge all mutated life and rebuild Elder Lyons : I realized that the Brotherhood of steel is the only hope for the Capital Wasteland, so we abandoned our primary mission to help Mr. House : I want to create a luxurious city state in order to get the funding necessary to start making scientific progress so humanity will have a future Shaun : S-Shut up dad its too complicated for you to understand why I want to replace everybody with robots! Stop asking me why we punish the robots we programmed to show emotion for showing emotion!
@@Justaguywithglassesok and voiced protagonist's in fallout is kinda bad imo. At least they could've done what the guise who made saints row did and have a few different voices.
This is how you write bonus dialog in games. Not only does it establish houses motives, beliefs, and ultimate goals, it gives you insight into the political interactions between the factions of the Mojave and expands the overall lore of the game. I miss details like this in an age of “another settlement of featureless NPCs needs your help”
This is an age of "Another settlement needs your help"? Dude fallout 4 came out 5 years ago. One game with lackluster dialogue dosent erase the many dialogue heavy games out there, you just havent been looking hard enough.
SerNoddicusTheGallant I was more showing appreciation for the writing in NV then trying to shit on Fallout 4 or say they don’t make games with good dialogue anymore.
@@Evildandalo that's because they didn't make NV, obsidian games did. They did better than Bethesda ever will and that's just the sad truth considering they'll likely never work with each other again. Obsidian games has plenty of other rpgs but we won't have a fallout again.
I would also say it is an incorrect statement by Mister House, the people of the Pre-War America did not vote to drop the bombs. It was the competition between rival powers over dwindling resources and it was their access to such weapons that allowed them to destroy the world, not that they were democratic or a dictatorship. And despite his claims that is all they are, he says he can do what he can do but if he were always right then he wouldn't have miscalculated the day the nukes were fired. And to be fair, its not like anyone will be able to hold him to that promise once he is in control of Hoover Dam and the Strip.
"Nor have I any interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah." Me if I was House: From the moment I realized the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
House is the perfect autocrat, his situation and personality leave him with no desire other than his dream of sheer progress, and he has the pragmatism to rule from a position like thst but the ideals to maintain his principles
He is great...if you're in his inner-circle of people who matter. FreeSide is evident of what Mr. House truly cares about, being himself and the progress of his vision.
Except he isn't a perfect autocrat, as demonstrated by the destruction of the Brotherhood of Steel, and he's too arrogant to acknowledge this fact. Its really a coin flip whether he will be humanities saviour or its damnation.
@@jimmy_james0007 when I say perfect autocrat I don't mean that I agree with every last decision but that he is totally incorruptible in his actions, every group he wipes out isnt from some sense of conquest but instead from them being a genuine threat due to ideological differences, it doesnt take his computers calculating the probability of brotherhood conflict as a result of his expansion to see that it's pretty much inevitable after the house ending if they aren't dealt with
@@jimmy_james0007 The reason why House wants you to kill them is because he knows they are religiously obsessed with hoarding dangerous technology, specifically weapons and defensive technology (e.g. Power Armor). He points out to you that if they were obsessed with collecting other tech like Auto-docs and other tech that isn't involved in warfare he wouldn't be worried about them so much. He sees it as a necessity to wipe them out because he knows that The Strip would be like the candy store for the Brotherhood as it's filled to the brim with weapons and other tech that House knows the Brotherhood would not hesitate to wipe out or steal from him. So they must be destroyed; just take a look at the Boston chapter of the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 to see exactly what I mean.
Considering it took less than 100 years from the first powered aircraft to the moon landings Mr. House's plan of space colonization in 100 years is surprisingly feasible as fallout tech goes
Plus considering that he will eventually have access to the platinum chip's design outside the data it has, It's not too farfetched that technology such as transistors could be reversed engineered and be integrated to what technology they have in new Vegas
He's just talking the talk, I have no faith in whatever Mr. House says, even if he himself believes it. Using colony ships to find planets untouched by radiation is patently ridiculous, earth would heal itself a thousand times over before they found a planet thats even halfway hospitable for extended human stay. He reminds me of elon musk in a way.
Good writing, actually logical and reasonable morally grey dialogue and atmosphere/art direction will ALWAYS trump raw graphical power. FACT. Prove me wrong, you can't. Tech demos come and go but great stories and characters have never failed to stand the test of time. "If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows..." God DAMN.
"Prive me wrong, you can't" No statement should ever go unchallenged. This is charismatic dialog, but House's actions show he isn't to be really trusted.
@@ShadowSonic2 @Schlock Jocks How so? Sure he's not a goody-two shoes sait, nor is he the devil. House grew up from an orphan and nobody into one of the brightest minds humanity ever had. A little bit of ego, but if I achived what House did I would have that ego too. He has a long term plan and solution to humanity's problem, immune to corruption while retaining his humanity. He's talking about colony ships while others bicker over a barren dustbowl! House takes care of the Legion and BoS, while solving the NCR's imperialistic expansion problem thats been crippling its economy. Kimball gets booted from office, Lee Oliver gets discharged and Cassandra Moore is put on a leash. Those soldiers finally get sent back home to their families and they can focus on strenghtening their territory and economy instead of stretching out far past their reach. House eventually rebuilds Vegas to its former glory with a good karma Courier keeping him in check as mentioned in the ending slideshow. House isn't perfect. He's not a saint nor the devil, and he can come off as cold and ruthless at times, but he's the best choice we have available. He never killed anyone directly either. Only driving off raiders, khans and tribals from Vegas. Worst thing he's ever done is fill the lower levels of Vault 21 with concrete. And compared to the other faction heads? House might as well be a saint.
@@dinoluka11 “he’s never killed anyone directly” aside from forcing the courier to kill the entire mojave chapter of the brotherhood of steel if you want to continue his questline. forget about that part?
@@yourehereforthatarentyou Who cares about Brotherhood of Steel anyway? They are a big group of arrogant thieves that don't do anything but hoard and steal technologies for their personal use.
My God, this is one of the moments in videogames I wish to live twice. I remember I've been speaking with House and dicking around Lucky 38 for almost two hours when I first played NV. Glad that now there's a chance that Microsoft might put Obsidian boys on another Fallout project
@@IcanSeeU0_0 Come on, it was not that bad. A disappointment for sure, and little replay value, but it was a decent game. It just lacked that "oomp" we expected from the same people who created the original Fallout and NV.
The sole problem with benevolent dictators is that the greatest of works can be undone in a day by a single incompetent heir. Robert E. House fixed that problem
The sad fact is House technically is the better option. Yes he's bleeding the NCR dry, but Ceasars Legion is no more, the NCR still exists, and the money they pour in actually does contribute to a rebuilding program. Sure places like Freeside suffer in the short term, but I doubt that House would let that continue for very long. After all, a rejuvenated Freeside has the potential for even more customers, and more customers = more money.
Yeah, I honestly feel like with time Vegas would eventually look how it did back in the day. If this game was made on current gen consoles, I feel like it would have very few broken down buildings and show a legit decent city. The limits of back then wouldnt let us see that
I’d say NCR is still the best option House only really cares about the Strip and what’s making him money, he doesn’t care about the surrounding areas unless it’ll make him money, whereas the NCR is willing to work with other factions, including those they usually fight against, for things that involve the entire Mojave wasteland
What does House do to the Kings if they work out a cease fire with the NCR? Not an alliance, just a general amicable coexistence? He has them all murdered. People who claim that House is the better option don't understand that he his far from as dispassionate as he likes to pretend. I'm not going to say the NCR is perfect, as it has its own corruption and evil inherent in it, but I think it's the best of the choices availible.
Mr House is a man that could be compared to the player going down a realistic path of some sort of civilization game. He has no interest in being worshipped or just having power. He's trying to rekindle humanity, and his belief is that earth has had its time, and colonies on other systems is the correct course. The NCR, Legion and their war are in his eyes no different than the ones that doomed the planet to nuclear hell. They follow the same path, and both have the same problems, both morally and functionally. But they are a threat the same, regardless of what either side believes. Mr. House sits on a very precarious position of essentially entrusting whoever puts the game in to trust that he is a good guy, regardless of how much he may seem like some big cold billionaire Capitalist only in anything for the money.
Only problem is that the tunnelers will ruin his plans when they get to New Vegas, personally I think the best option there is for New Vegas is to exterminate the Legion and to keep House and the NCR together until they can find a way to eradicate the tunnelers, then kick the NCR out.
I think he's right. If people stay on Earth after something like Fallout happens even if they manage to actually formulate a functioning, normal society from the wreckage they'll never escape the long term spiritual, cultural, enviromental and fracturing damaged it caused. It would be a world of anarchist and survialist playing at something they are not. Many who know they can return to indepedence and who's very destroyed world is at the fault of entrusting powers outside themselves. Colonies are the way to go. A restart. A new city with a new identity.
@@OfficialFedHater Problem with that is the NCR is not much different than the Legion and will run House over if necessary tontheir expansionism. They're like early democracy, with all the flaws of said early democracy. For it's citizens its great since they have rights and representation through the government and freedoms. If you're not part of the NCR however, then you're as fair game as any petty fiend gang that roams the wastes, regardless of what partnership can benefit the two. I'm sure House would side with the NCR if they weren't both sitting on such a vital resource; Hoover Dam. The NCR see House as a threat and despite not beating the game I'm pretty sure both the Legion and NCR have House killed to acomplish their goals. They are both relics of a bygone era that have run their course and failed. As House even says, if you wish to see the work of Democracy's; look out the window. Referring to the idea that because of being democratic the NCR is somehow good. They're repeating History, and talking to house reveals that if either faction were to secure power over the other, House would be close behind. Joining together is out of the question. Whatever partnerships they have are as deep as they'll run. Mutual benefit that I would compare to the Molotov - Ribbentrop pact of the Second world war: An uneasy and not so friendly aggreement that is really just a formal "We're at peace for now."
@@anicjan4654 Technically the world should have been clean some 150 years prior. But the radiation seems to persist. Otherwise with House at the helm it would be relatively easy to rebuild society. But with two powerhungry factions at odds with each other, and House's damn caught in the middle; he sits in an unfortunate position.
@@radioactiverat8751 They're literally working together before the end of the game though, and with the divide fucked, they have a very long supply chain, House could easily remove them from the Mojave with his upgraded securitrons, especially if he uses them to help clear out the tunneler threat.
@@benscarbrough3986 That implies he would still be alive to oversee them. Mr House shares one fatal flaw with Ceasar. Whatever longetivity treatment he has is not perfect and he would eventually die. Once he is gone, the vision of that glorious future is gone. There have been a handful of competent rulers in history (King Matthias Hunyadi, or known in the west as Matthias Corvinus comes to mind for my home), and their deaths often result in things falling apart quickly afterwards, when there is nobody as competent to fill the void they are leaving, as whatever ruling body is left behind usually gets too comfortable with the good ruler to handle a bad, or even just a not as good one.
@@fatfuck2384 Outer Worlds ain't that bad... I really like the priest companion and I totally lost it with the dumb suicide ending of the game lol I wish they did more, the real problem is that it's too short and too small (I also want to know what happened to Earth damnit)
This is the sort of nuance in storytelling and interactions that only Obsidian could do and Bethesda struggles to emulate, or outright removed with its linear dialogue system of "Happy, Aggressive, Questioning and Sarcastic" options. You ask an NPC additional questions, and you get to the root of their motives, their character, their worldview and their goal. The NCR is a corrupt bureaucratic faction that seeks the dependency of its civilians to keep them in check, and power to dominate. The Legion is a dictatorship that lives and dies on the ideals of Caesar, cruel and harsh on the outside but ultimately seeks a return of morality, and subsequent morality policing, with the goal to uplift humanity. House is a wildcard with a vision for a sustainable future, not the most powerful of the three but well versed in power playing and political manoeuvring. Calculating that a war with the NCR would be a pyrrhic victory, and they would subsequently lose to the Legion. That he can then leverage that risk to the NCR to his advantage, to remain independent without the need to fight for it and even benefit with the repair of Hoover Dam and the economic boom. He is clever. You learn that all through simple conversation. Fallout 4 lacks any of it and its all speculation. If you side with The Institute, does the Institute then open its doors and use its advanced tech to aid The Commonwealth? If you side with The Railroad, do they have any long term vision after the destruction of all the other factions? If you side with the Enclave 2.0 Brotherhood of Steel, would that make life worse living under the thumb of Maxon? The only sure bet is The Minutemen and they are by far the most boring of the lot. That game desperately needed a continuation or aftermath of the main story DLC and they never bothered. There is even cut content that the initial draft had an option to challenge Maxon for leadership of the Brotherhood using an old, unused rule to depose an Elder through combat... And they removed it. An option that could've made the Brotherhood a serious choice with the possibility of another Elder Lyons leadership.
Very true. Let’s not forget about Obsidian’s new RPG The Outer Worlds though. The Board had zero nuance to them, they were just evil business men with no justification...
Best explanation I got from them was “the colony’s going to shit might as well ride it out in luxury”. The quest choices kinda sucked as well. Most from what I remember had a clear best choice with little down sides...
@Friendly Neighbourhood Sun Wheel It's still a good game honestly. I just really didn't like the Board, and some of the choices in it. It was basically if you had a high speech skill everything works out for everyone (kinda like Bethesda fallouts lol)
The irony is that house victory is a better ending for the NCR than NCR victory House’s victory would develop the NCR even more and stop its overexpension policies while slowly turning it into an advanced civilization where peoples no longer struggle to get food but instead strive to get entertainment
@Yourtuytr 2 Its not but its better than living in craphole wasteland And its also a chance to go forward and build solid foundations. House living is more beneficial to the NCR than NCR continuing to overexpend until it grows to a bloating size and explode in multiple warring states.
@@KalashVodka175 And thats why House ending with good NCR reputation is best ending)) And also good karma,but sadly gonna need to make Kings fight against NCR tho
@@skell6134 In the grand scheme of things, it's a few lives that ensure a better outcome and the NCR couldn't care less about that little program, as far as the top brass was concerned, it was just a fool's errand. The NCR people knew what they signed up for.
@@combinecommando001s house said himself on a different dialogue option chain in time the whole affair will be remembered simply as Kimball's foolish misadventure and life would continue on as usual
Mr house is one of the most well written characters in not just gaming but entertainment as a whole. And the way Rene delivers the lines of dialogue make it even better house is a fascinating character and easily my favorite out of any fallout game.
"If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows." He's not wrong, but that is one COLD thing to say. And you know, kinda relevant at the moment.
Yeah, I'm not sure whether democracy can be entirely blamed for the nuclear war. It's not as if the people of America democratically elected to nuke themselves.
@@ajmari9585 embargo the supplier of water and electricity? Oh that won't be very popular in NCR no no no Any administration that did that would immediately be thrown from office
@@rejvaik00 The problem with that theory is that the Hoover Dam is more a luxury than necessity. Remember, the NCR has only been in control of the dam for 7 years or so, and the NCR was doing VERY well before discovering the dam, the water seems mostly used for the Mojave operations like the sharecroppers and the dam isn't the only form of electricity. We see generators powering lights and equipment all over NCR camps, luxury, not a necessity, and if House price gauges like he plans too, would be an easy rallying cry to embargo, NCR can go far longer without the dam than House can without the NCR it seems.
It doesn't make sense, he seems to forget that he doesn't have power as much as what he has before the great war, before the war he was a billionaire and probably one of the richest man on earth, but after the war? All he got is a bunch of securitrons a few casino, sure it make sense for him to turn New Vegas into Las Vegas in a few decades, but his idea to go space is crazy.
I sided with Mr. House every time, because of that line right there, under him, humanity has a future. The NCR is a replica of what led to the burned world and would inevitably lead to it again, The legion has no future in mind, the courier's yes man is a selfish gambit that cannot contribute to the future of humanity, only house gives that option and talks about that option. The brotherhood of steel that I loved in FO3 are nothing compared to the new vegas BoS who are selfish and imo completely evil, hoarding tech, no future there either.
@@Ketaruz As someone who killed Mr. House in one play-through, his reaction during his moment of death was that he firmly believed in that vision, his death was solidified when we opened his casket, it could not be undone, so he had no reason to lie (i.e. to save his life) and even wished for a quick death after it was opened.
He's right(or more realistically.. well written). You build up an empire through consumerism. People work hard to play hard. Once people can start having time off instead of being in the grind, economies always take off. Time off to spend and also time off to innovate for ways for consumers to spend on you. That's how you get a strong nation. Now that doesn't mean that consumerism is the ideal society, it's just how to get a strong empire fast. It feeds off of human nature. Nations built on ideals over nature are always doomed to fail, even if the ideal is better.
I mean House is fucked as it seems his plan was to use the NCR as his customer base and without the NCR it seems that his plans have no way of happening they probably will make his ending cannon in attempt to explain the fall of the NCR much better also probably somehow saying he didn't expect the NCR was going to collapse the TV show seems to be setting up that the west coast is the East Coast in which everything is rickety shaqs like in DC and Boston
@@evanthompson7494exactly. I think season 2 is gonna show branches of the NCR in NV/the Mojave, the NCR had gotten too big at that point to be completely gone just because shady sands was nuked
@@jackdubs25 I can imagine it either being severely weakened and shrinking significantly thanks to greedy neighbours, or splitting into north/south baja/san francisco republic deal
Mr. House is a pretty reasonable character. All he really wants is control of the Vegas Strip and for people to have somewhere comfortable to spend their money and feel safe. Yeah, he's a capitalist from the Old World, but he was also the only one at the table who didn't waste any resources trying to protect at least a portion of humanity. He went all in.
I mean, he can look like a crazy man that want vegas for himself, but is the only one that now how keep it running, and he is right, the democracy don't work
Mateo Reyes Democracy can work in some cases, but it sure as hell cant work in a Post Apocalyptic World. The people don’t know what they even want except survival in that setting. They aren’t looking for advancement like House is. A few might be but not everyone.
Its obvious that he was gonna go off the rails (In one way or another) with all the power he woupd eventually gain. BUT the sole survivor being alive and his close confidante, while also having many close they themselves coule help steer house to keep to his true vision
I always saw the potential of house abusing his power one day or being clouded with the desire to grow farther than he can eventually handle but he is definitely the best choice for the Mojave. I’d continue as to why but the other great people of the comment section has already talked about it
i doubt it if hes even prone to abusing power or clouded judgment, hes 200++ years old and knows what hes doing. the main negative side of house is that he is claustrophobic for new vegas
@@totmgsrockxd9900 again he has already lived for almost 3 centuries. He fricking survived the resource war, survived the death of his physicality, he survived the nuclear bombs that destroyed the planet, he survived the fallout, and will continue living and surviving because he has a plan to maintain himself from the beginning of it all. Hes not going to die by accident he has calculated all the risks. Its just that the courier is the hand of god that we are able to kill him
I feel like people assume that because his flaws are not as readily visible as those of the NCR or Legion, House is somehow better than them. In the end, I can't honestly say I think he is. He's got a clear plan, unlike the NCR, and it isn't built on cult-of-personality like Caesar's, but these very things are what make the plan brittle. His plan functions just as well without him, and it's only his conceit that makes him believe he's necessary for it. And, beyond that, his own disinterest in the very people he's supposed to be ruling leads him to repeatedly alienate his subjects and miss vital information. It's safe to assume Benny and the Omertas won't be isolated incidents, where his own callous disregard would have lead to his downfall without the courier.
This is true, however unlike the other two, he does have the means and experiance to grow far larger and bring his subjects higher than the NCR or Caesar's legion can with their own
Oh, give me a disinterested ruler any time. His plan still needs the stability i would want from a regime in a post apocaliptic wasteland, but none of the "great ideas" you usually get from despots and mobs of idiots voting for those sharing their retarded ideologies and religions that they think you should also have, no matter what you think about it. The worst rulers, are usually the ones who are very much interested in their subjects, and are fully convinced that them forcing their ideal for how your life should look like is in your best interest, and their duty. All the worst atrocities in history were done by people who thought they are doing it for some greater good.
Doesn't his plan involve a "technological and economic visionary" though? There aren't so many of those and particularly not one who is impervious to other corrupting influences who would not tell people how to lead their private lives, who would focus on the long-term goal and not short-term personal gain. Take humanity back into orbit within 50 years. That is him. At least according to him it is. The question is do you believe him? But that is not a plan, on those terms, that functions without him (or someone like him - and is there someone else like him?).
@@darkwingduke1631 Yep , I think it's an interesting question whether his plan would work. I quite like House. I just thought it was perhaps not accurate to say "His plan functions just as well without him". It seems to me he is pivotal to it.
@@gorillagaming8722 it's just as bad as being burdened with heavy taxation while having the illusion of freedom. At least the Legion and Mr. House are clear about their goals and vision of the future. The NCR just beats around the bush.
I mean under a man like house it seams like a good idea but realistically what is stopping the man in charge from abusing his power for his personal goal with no way to get him out of office and with no opposition to stand against him I mean look what happened in Germany and the USSR
...When i think about it, i'm starting to see House as a person playing Strategy games like Civilization, Age of Empires, and the like. think of it, when you play strategy games, how much do you care about the individuals of your city? when was the last time you gave a crap about one singular soldier in age of empires. and how effectively could you play starcraft if your units were to say "actually, you know what? No. ain't doing it" imagine giving soldiers in your strategy games deep personalities that can make them refuse attacking certain things. house is basically playing civilization here, trying to reach the technology ending.
Elsewhere in this comment section someone made the analogy that Mr. House is like a hardcore player of Simcity. He doesn’t really care about any of the people he rules, he doesn’t care about bribes, as they don’t have any real value to him, and even if he were to succeed, it wouldn’t really benefit him in a substantial way. He’s elevating humanity to the space age just to prove that he can, like someone playing a game on the hardest difficulty just for bragging rights.
I love the confidence and the trust between the Courier and Mr. House. He's willing to tell you every bit of his plan and trust that you'll carry it out, with the confidence that you'll get it done right. Obsidian did such a great job with this story.
You've been swayed by his charisma, which is the point of the character. His actual intentions and actions are far from this idealism that seeps from his words.
@@Drumpro31 he sees people as tools, similar to his robots (and vice versa, with treating Jane like a human) - to be used and discarded if they're no longer useful - as he does with the gamblers who are out of caps on the strip. He uses the fiends for his own goals - to distract NCR and create a scare, a boogeyman, to force people into paying for safety on the Strip. He has no interest beyond earning caps and pursuing his vision. He doesn't help Freeside or Westside or anyone else - even though he has the resources, he just doesn't care. Anything and anyone that doesn't serve or isn't useful to his plan is not important to him. I'd argue that even if he had unlimited money he'd not rebuild Freeside, so that the gamblerd coming into the strip will be more grateful for the safety and will appreciate everything more. He might even be using the "walk through Freeside" as a suspension bridge effect, in order to create more demand for safety, just like what he uses the fiends for. It's even mentioned in the new vegas radio. He'll work you to your physical and mental limits (just look at Michaelangelo) and when you're no longer useful he'll dump you. He'll say things like "i don't care about being worshipped as some machine god messiah" and "im impervious to such things" but his obituary and his general actions stand very much in the contrary to these words - he deems himself the master of the human race. If you choose House, he'll likely do what he said he would. He'll return to the ways of the old world, reignite technology research and colonize other planets. But it'll come at a cost of humanity being his plaything. There's a reason why he collects the snowballs after all.
Anyone else here after the Fallout Show? SPOILERS AHEAD The fact that House knew about the Vaults and Vault-Tec's plan to start the nuclear war themselves makes it kinda questionable that he didn't have the Platinum Chip ready in time.
I mean it only confirmed that vault tec planned to cause the war, not that they absolutely did it. The unfinished vaults they have and other clues seems to indicate that they were caught a bit of guard too. But the meeting probably made house speed up his plans
Not gonna lie, his words are like honey. He paints a very attractive picture. He means it too. Makes me wonder why he's treated like the bad guy. *Oh yeah.* what he did to the Kings and the Brotherhood. Oh well, as they say when you're making the mother of all omelets ya can't fret over every egg.
He's still a tyrant and that rubs us in the west the wrong way. But he is a Tyrant with a real vision, and the capacity to execute on it. In a world with horrible choices, it's not the worst you can do. Also - I believe going with Mr. House actually benefited the NCR. Their reactionary leader and imperialist tendencies would have been contained by scandal, and new leaders who are a bit less foolish would have a chance to rise, and in canon lore - this did occur. Kimbal lost the election, and the NCR stopped recklessly expanding. While he was mocking democracies here - the main benefit of democracies is they can evolve. If you embarrass or humiliate or defeat them - the nation is capable of learning and improving.
This applies for good karma runs NCR: snowball into war again Brotherhood: Technology in the hands of a few is EXACTLY what caused the apocalypse Legion: no Independent: Good for Mojave yes, but is not as beneficial for the future Yes man: independent but your a dictator now Mr. House: Good for the future, the world isnt fit to live on, keep him in check though.
That's what i love about New Vegas. Every faction has tangible pros and cons and no one is in the right. NCR could claim New Vegas if they wanted to, but then they would be crushed by Legion so no one oversteps their welcome. Though i really wish there was a companion with ties to the Legion. As is we got 2 NCR, 1 Followers, 1 Brotherhood and 2 neutral while it's already almost impossible to side with Legion prior to meeting Ceasar.
Ulysses was meant to be a Legion affiliated companion but he was cut out from the base game and put into the Lonesome Road DLC. There are also a few Legion modded companions as well if you don't mind going the modded route.
The problem is that the legion's society is totalitarian which means that individuals who embrace such ideology would never want to pursue something that isn't the will of the legion. The only way a legion affiliated follower would have worked would be if caesar ordered them to follow us
While Mr. House talks about unimpeded progress he fails to realize the fact that unimpeded progress for progresses sake is exactly what lead to the nuclear wasteland the game is set in.
So he is going to further humanity's technological progress and permit each individual to pursue their respective agenda without hindrance. This may be a personal thing but compared to the Legion's affinity to slavery, NCR's tendencies towards corruption and the uncertain future of a free Vegas, it's too easy for me to pick House over the rest of them.
Listening to the dialogue after watching his small tine in the TV show reinfoces to me the show nailed House. Its ashame Rene Aburjnois passed away I'd have loved for him to voice house in season 2.
"Nor have I any interest in being worshiped as some kind of Machine God Messiah...." 100 years later: "All hail the Omnisiah! Blessed be the Machine spirit! House: "God damn it...."
"Not have I any Interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah" Bound to machinery that keeps them alive Sealed in towering structure within an urban center Trying to put humanity on a path of prosperity House and the God-Emperor seem to have a few things in common
Excerpt from the Emperor's conversation with Uriah Olathaire, Priest of the Church of the Lightning Stone, the last church on Terra. Big E: "Nothing of such grand scale can be achieved without a singular vision at its heart, least of all the reconquest of the Galaxy." Uriah :"Didn't you just tell me of the bloody slaughters perpetrated by crusaders? Doesn’t that make you no better than the holy men you were telling me about?" Big E: "The difference is I know I am right." It's no coincidence House prefers to call himself "Autocrat". He and the Emperor of Mankind are one and the same.
“You’re free to live on my property and do as you please; so long as you don’t touch my stuff nor get in my way” I can live with that. While he cares about the Strip, the Strip is the people and he knows he still needs to not rule over them directly or the way they live. They just don’t have a say when it comes to bills.
@@Dogtles House won, the NCR got ousted from the dam and Vegas, then a year later their capital got nuked by Vault-Tec. Chaos ensues, but House probably is still alive in some form, probably the reason why Hank is going to Vegas at the end.
Mr. House raises a lot of good points that make him one of the best characters throughout the Fallout series. He doesn't want to build an empire across a broken nuclear wasteland and instead, wishes to make a new home away from it all based on technology and advancement. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest characters in gaming and factions in Fallout.
I could never understand why John Caleb Bradburton, the “inventor” of Nuka Cola never went to see Mr House in the first place. This is a man who has not only succeeded in keeping his entire body (somewhat) preserved and functional, but also utilises an army of robots to maintain control over the Strip. John could have negotiated with House for a similar setup in Nuka World, instead of spending 200 years looking at the same three walls within his personal vault as a head in a jar.
John probably didn't know about how House had gotten the man/machine interface working properly. Remember, the Military deliberately screwed Bradburton. Shane they didn't realize they could have worked together. House's Securitrons armed with the Nuka Weaponry Bradburton created would have meant New Vegas would have always been powerful enough for independence.
The ends justify the means. A term like Autocrat has a negative connotation but in all reality there are times when the population needs a good kick in the rear, as is the case with the fallout universe. Anything freeform like democracy would keep the wasteland the way it is, anarchy . House knows it , as does Caesar.
his main flaw can be summed up by him saying that he's impervious to getting drunk on power like every other autocrat in history, which in and of itself is a delusion of grandeur
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts same regard for giving power to any other faction. NCR will end up with someone like kimball and lee or any other corrupt politician and legion will be legion. the point isn't about who will rule longer but who will be bring most benefit in long term after their system died. Even if mr house brain is decaying, either he will die or transform himself to full AI or just die(but the assh*les in big mt can prolong their lifespan so i don't think mr house will go away in near 1000 years) either way whatever the outcome will bring massive progressive in technlogy and economy to new vegas that can be taken over by next system.meanwhile NCR will only left corrupt system with almost no progress with someone like kimball in charge and legion probably will end up like alexander the great empire when caesar finally die.
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts The reason he is in the tube is precisely so his brain doesnt deteriorate, if your courier has low medicine skill he will say Mr.House is a brain in a jar he then says that he isn't because brains do deteriote in biogel
In the show, House is the only one who openly doesn't want to participate. He undermines the others in the room. He's a man of big ego and the show shows that with just a few seconds
for those who want to listen to more "House" watch Star Trek deep space 9. Unfortunately he passed away though. Was hoping we could meet house again in a sequel down the road
Yes man is too optimistic. Power corrupts all, whoever reigns control of the Mojave next in that scenario, I doubt they'll be better than the other options. Plus yes man always reminded me of skynet
Courier: What's to keep you from abusing your power? House: My judgement. So we're supposed to just trust him on his word that he won't go power hungry?
Yah, no. Ulysses is right, House can't stop living in the past, nothing new would come from him. He'd just become more paranoid and kill and oppress more people until that golf club shows up.
I feel like house shouldn't have had an ending where he forcefully removes the NCR simply because it kinda screws him over in the end. By throwing the treaty into the trash NCR could basically starve Vegas economically, it should have been written as a stealthier approach where he "accepts" NCR rule while truelly just manipulating them to advance his own gains and eventually just blasts off into space as he said
I feel like Mr House is the best kind of dictator. He only cares about the bottom line not peoples personal lives or blind alliance to the state. Not saying it’s good just compared to other more Authoritarian dictators(Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc) it’s just more preferable.
I would describe myself as libertarian, but Mr House swayed me to his side in this game. As long as he remained the autocrat of his own establishment, Vegas would be in good hands, but it must always be House because of his very particular set of utilitarian moral codes. The world of Fallout needs a firm hand to guide it, because it is so lawless and chaotic.
What he basically wants for New Vegas is some kind of transform into Night City, but with more ambitions for colonization of other planets. That city is ruled by corporations.
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Mr. House was born today pal. June 25th of our year, 2020
Yup, that's in the description.
@@Ketaruz I missed that part. Thank you
Mr. house 2020, I don’t care if he’s an infant, get him in the White House.
Same as i
Born in 2020, huh? Mr. House definitely mastered social distancing in his old age
I can listen to house talk all day.
Same with Caesar their voice actors are great
All I hear is Odo threatening Quark...
Mr New Vegas even more
Literally I've been binge
watching Mr house talking
Makes me wish the NCR had an engaging speaker too tbh
I just love the way he says “Would Kimball and Oliver traded the lives of hundreds of soldiers for absolute control of Hoover Dam? Oh yes.” It’s funny because it is definitely true despite how much Kimball and Oliver might try to hide it
Another thing I love about New Vegas is that it rewards the player for actually using their brain.Fallout 4 just has you running around shooting things and going from point A to B.In New Vegas and even in a lot of quest in Fallout 3 there are multiple ways to approach a quest.This probably isn’t the best example but take the mission that Colonel Moore of the NCR gives to you that has you wipe out the brotherhood of steel.You can do as she asks and either kill them yourself or activate the self destruct sequence in their bunker, after doing all their quests and becoming a member of the brotherhood you can tell Elder McNamara that the NCR wants to destroy them and he will offer a truce to the NCR in exchange they will send troops out to support them at Hoover Dam, or you can just avoid all of that and work with Yes Man so you can just leave them alone.But the sheer number of options you have.As well as when you meet Benny.You can kill him right then and there, in his suite,if you a female you can have sex with him and kill him in his sleep, you can let him run off and get captured at the fort with the platinum chip and then you get to decide how you want him to die, or you can decide to work with him.Those aren’t even all the options to the side quest either.And some outcomes of quest don’t even get labeled in your pip boy
Just like the people in charge of our countries are willing to do that too if they are attacked
@@mateoreyes6921 yeah I wish there were easier ways to sort things out rather then fighting.I mean it’s not some video game where you get to confront the final boss.Like Franklin Roosevelt wasn’t gonna speech check Hitler into stoping the Holocaust but I feel like there are other ways to resolve conflicts other than fighting or even talking.It’s just sad seeing some of the conditions veterans come home to as well, these people have been most likely scarred for life from things they have seen and yet they can’t even get a thank you.I always make sure to respect veterans or even serving soldiers because they have a lot more damn courage then I could dream of having.
@@noahhamel6689 they give you so many ways to handle problems, you can be a confirmed bachelor to get Benny or you can just wait for him to be in the legion camp.
The game is entirely fine with you just killing everyone you meet.
Part of RPGs is giving the player options on how they want to solve problems and NV gives massive amounts of options.
Also it's nice that no character is essential and anyone you come across can be killed and the game will still work. Quests may break, but the player should understand that's just how it goes if you kill the quest giver.
@@noahhamel6689 I like the fact that getting the Brotherhood to ally with the NCR actually gets you INFAMY with the NCR rather than Fame, because the NCR don't like the Brotherhood and Colonel Moore hates the idea of not only working with the people who've spent years fighting them but also having to sift through a mountain of paperwork and alliance treaties and stuff.
House is a very compelling character, a skilled salesman and businessman, and a technological genius. He can be a blessing for the Mojave ... but also a huge threat. I think the pivotal factor is the Courier. The Courier must be someone who holds House accountable, who challenges him, and who is not afraid of speaking against House if his moves become questionable. After all, House is a single human being. Human beings can lose their way, no matter how brilliant they are. That's why a wise ruler is fully OK with constructive and honest criticism.
True, the Mr House endings also state this somewhat with the different karma levels as well
@@Ketaruz Yeah, if the ending slides are anything to go by Mr. House appears to allow himself to be flexible for the Courier's wishes. Just the fact that a negative Karma Courier has a different result for the wasteland than positive Karma with Mr. House shows he respects Courier Six as his right hand man.
If you went with House, Ulysses will tell you that he frightens him more than anything.
@@LordSerion because both Ulysses and House want the old world to finally die. The difference between them is that Ulysses goes full "return to monke" (the only system he doesn't explicitely reject is the primitive tribes system he was born in) when House goes Imperium of Man.
@@TheZeroHeader i think it's more canonically your a 10 in intelligence like him so like his competitors before the war he sees you as a equal but unlike his competitors you help his goals making him think ah iv got a smart capable agent who i like and can hold a decent intellectual convo with.
i cant tell if he's a libertarians nightmare or a libertarians wet dream
We’re not sure either
well seeing as libertarian means you want freedom i think he'd be disliked by libertarians but not a nightmare
@@coromo4978 You're thinking of anarchism, which diverges from libertarianism on the question of capitalism. To a modern libertarian, Mr. House is expressing his individuality to the fullest, having full right to use his private property however he chooses to. It really depends if you see him as an unusually powerful businessman or a de facto government.
@@albertskoften1452 hes a businessman. He made the strip, he made the securitrons, he made new vegas what it is.
The strip belongs to him, like he says.
It just so happens that people made houses near his property and consents to live under HIS authority. (My house MY rules)
I fully support House in wanting to enforce his sovereignty from foreign powers that want to take it away like the Legion and the NCR
There is no rule that says a businessman can't fill the role as a government leader.
Mr house also isn't a dictator, he won't dictate what you do in your life. He will leave you alone and let you fall into a drug addiction for all he cares, just as long as you don't touch his stuff.
For a man far from political, one that would be probably be described with the words libertarian or anarchist, who worries more about how I can help this world and it’s people over what life I really end up with; I’d back this dude in a heartbeat if I was the courier.
For one single man he holds true to his end goal, and his choices really do reflect someone using logic and progress over someone wanting to just hurt, kill or become deified.
Where every faction is trying to win a war Mr. House was the only one that isn’t. NCR and Legion would have you kill him for their own greed. House just wants to control New Vegas and wants the ability to protect it.
House knows he’s of high value (one of the actual best, last hope for humanity) and doesn’t want to lose all that he worked for or the opportunity to help save the world.
Kid me went NCR because I couldn’t kill the BoS.
But adult me knows the BoS are shitbags that sing a good tune and the NCR are no better than my own government that I’m beginning to despise. I killed the only dude in game who was more of a main character than the courier as a child.
Mr House voice actor, René Murat Auberjonois died in 2019. He was perfect for this role. RIP.
Why do all the good ones die?
He was also Odo on DS9! Fantastic actor!
@@eren34558 it's the innate condition of humanity
@@eren34558 because everyone does regardless of goodness?
He looked like an older Todd Howard.
Can we talk about how House has some incredible dialogue?
"If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows."
Ironically, his points have only gotten stronger over the years. A shame few are as intelligent as they are wealthy...too many wealthy squander the opportunity to champion a true vision. House knows how to play the game long-term. The legion is way too short term, and the NCR plays too slow a game for either side. We got shot in the head twice, competent though we may be for an independent future.
@@Darkmage1293 You've started to sound like Saruman at the end.
bourgeois democracies sucks. information problem and conflict of interest is way too clear.
@@pygmalion8952 Yet communism and dictatorships are equally bad due to the greed of human nature.
@@JimboMarsh
Which is why either a Monarchy or Republic is best.
It’s evident most humans don’t really care/think of bigger things like helping an entire country or realizing compromise is necessary to achieve it, they simply care for themselves and what will benefit them. Most people need a leader who can make decisions for them, but, with power comes a grand responsibility of not abusing it.
It’s what America needs today, a person with a stout vision and a want to help people regardless of bribes or threats, and one who will actually focus on us, rather than other countries. Every country has a “parent”, so why should the USA act as if a parent is needed?
Caesar and Mr. House have 100 speech level
Oh look it's the emperor. Still rage?
Benny too IMO
@@PolarBear0 no doubt
Polar Bear Benny’s more like 85, can’t exactly talk his way out of a crucifixion
Don't forget me.
4:27 - Tell me about the Boomers
Yeah, given he's 250 years old he knows a thing or two about them
Lol I was looking for this comment
The 🅱️oomers
But he was born in 2020 making him a zoomer and not a boomer?
@@michaelbalfour3170 boomer of it's time I guess. Despite the definition every zoomer will become boomer one day
@@11XxXxHeadshoTxXxX11 I guess they will, once i ever they own property. Does that mean we the "millenials" are boomers now?
Walt Disney scary in the future.
“You think God is in control? *HaHa* *I’VE BEEN* And I have been since the 50’s.”
...Machine God Messiah?
OMNISSIAH!
PRAISE HE BE!
Beep boop, he is machine god
Beep boop son, beep boop.
BEEP
00001101111011110111 11100111010001100 011011100101011000
(this doesn't actually say anything coherent)
YES INQUISITOR. THIS POST RIGHT HERE.
"Is a man not entitled to the sweat upon his brow? No, says the man in Shady Sands, it belongs to his government, to the bureaucrats! No, says the man in Flagstaff, it belongs to his Lord, his King! No, says the man in the Hidden Valley, it belongs to his uplifted betters, to the chosen elite!
I chose something different. I chose... New Vegas!"
*aggresively draws golf club*
This would’ve been good for wild wastelands
@@lol-rk5xn It really would
And to add to the joke, Mr. House was voiced by Rene Auberjonois while Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimerman, who starred together on _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ as the mutual antagonists of Constable Odo and Quark respectively.
The House always Wins. 😎
This game does not infringe on the player's intelligence unlike fallout 4 with dialogue made by glue eaters
Fallout 4 isn't all that bad, but it is lacking in the RPG quest elements and choices that matter.
@@Ketaruz voice acting is pretty crap too.
The Master : I want to unite the wasteland by turning everybody into extremely resilient super mutants
The Enclave : We want to purge all mutated life and rebuild
Elder Lyons : I realized that the Brotherhood of steel is the only hope for the Capital Wasteland, so we abandoned our primary mission to help
Mr. House : I want to create a luxurious city state in order to get the funding necessary to start making scientific progress so humanity will have a future
Shaun : S-Shut up dad its too complicated for you to understand why I want to replace everybody with robots! Stop asking me why we punish the robots we programmed to show emotion for showing emotion!
@@Justaguywithglassesok and voiced protagonist's in fallout is kinda bad imo.
At least they could've done what the guise who made saints row did and have a few different voices.
@@KHlb_ It's totally a rpg even if you don't like it tho, factions, inventory, choices, quests...
This is how you write bonus dialog in games. Not only does it establish houses motives, beliefs, and ultimate goals, it gives you insight into the political interactions between the factions of the Mojave and expands the overall lore of the game.
I miss details like this in an age of “another settlement of featureless NPCs needs your help”
Or the Institute's wonderful reasoning for turning people into super mutants and releasing them into the Commonwealth. Basically just "idk lol 🤷♀️"
This is an age of "Another settlement needs your help"?
Dude fallout 4 came out 5 years ago. One game with lackluster dialogue dosent erase the many dialogue heavy games out there, you just havent been looking hard enough.
SerNoddicusTheGallant I was more showing appreciation for the writing in NV then trying to shit on Fallout 4 or say they don’t make games with good dialogue anymore.
@@Evildandalo that's because they didn't make NV, obsidian games did.
They did better than Bethesda ever will and that's just the sad truth considering they'll likely never work with each other again. Obsidian games has plenty of other rpgs but we won't have a fallout again.
@@bakester86 The problem with the writing might be due to the fact that their writers are terrible. That, or improper management. Or both!
"If you want to see the fate of Democracies, look out the windows"
Like, i like dark humor, but holy fuck
Sad but true.
Nobody who likes dark humor needs to say that they “like” dark humor at every dark joke
It isn't really humor, he's just staring fact
Humor?
I would also say it is an incorrect statement by Mister House, the people of the Pre-War America did not vote to drop the bombs. It was the competition between rival powers over dwindling resources and it was their access to such weapons that allowed them to destroy the world, not that they were democratic or a dictatorship. And despite his claims that is all they are, he says he can do what he can do but if he were always right then he wouldn't have miscalculated the day the nukes were fired. And to be fair, its not like anyone will be able to hold him to that promise once he is in control of Hoover Dam and the Strip.
"Nor have I any interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah."
Me if I was House: From the moment I realized the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
House is the perfect autocrat, his situation and personality leave him with no desire other than his dream of sheer progress, and he has the pragmatism to rule from a position like thst but the ideals to maintain his principles
He is great...if you're in his inner-circle of people who matter. FreeSide is evident of what Mr. House truly cares about, being himself and the progress of his vision.
Except he isn't a perfect autocrat, as demonstrated by the destruction of the Brotherhood of Steel, and he's too arrogant to acknowledge this fact. Its really a coin flip whether he will be humanities saviour or its damnation.
Tell that to the brotherhood
@@jimmy_james0007 when I say perfect autocrat I don't mean that I agree with every last decision but that he is totally incorruptible in his actions, every group he wipes out isnt from some sense of conquest but instead from them being a genuine threat due to ideological differences, it doesnt take his computers calculating the probability of brotherhood conflict as a result of his expansion to see that it's pretty much inevitable after the house ending if they aren't dealt with
@@jimmy_james0007 The reason why House wants you to kill them is because he knows they are religiously obsessed with hoarding dangerous technology, specifically weapons and defensive technology (e.g. Power Armor). He points out to you that if they were obsessed with collecting other tech like Auto-docs and other tech that isn't involved in warfare he wouldn't be worried about them so much.
He sees it as a necessity to wipe them out because he knows that The Strip would be like the candy store for the Brotherhood as it's filled to the brim with weapons and other tech that House knows the Brotherhood would not hesitate to wipe out or steal from him. So they must be destroyed; just take a look at the Boston chapter of the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 to see exactly what I mean.
This 4 minute conversation has better writing than the whole story of Fallout 4 combined.
I miss old fallout...
I think you got confused... Fallout 4 is the best of all fallouts. The 76 that is the bad one.
@@matc8313 i hope that's sarcasm
@@matc8313 Funny
Fallout 4 isn't that bad honestly, the writing and bad guys just dont feel as good (unleas they're non-humans) and the story isn't as good either.
@LeadFaun yeah, gameplay is honestly pretty fun
I like that UI color
Thanks Joey, I used the FICC UI color changer, it also works for Fallout 3.
www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/43395?tab=description
I like the perspective too, makes it look like an interview with house.
Considering it took less than 100 years from the first powered aircraft to the moon landings Mr. House's plan of space colonization in 100 years is surprisingly feasible as fallout tech goes
And don't forget he can also have access to Big MT tech, the Think Tank and even a downed alien spacecraft if you consider Wild Wasteland as canon
Plus considering that he will eventually have access to the platinum chip's design outside the data it has, It's not too farfetched that technology such as transistors could be reversed engineered and be integrated to what technology they have in new Vegas
@seamusthatsthedog4819 To be honest, I think Mr. House would consider the Big Mt inferior because of his big ego
Even the ghouls could theoretically do it. I am pretty confident House could try too.
He's just talking the talk, I have no faith in whatever Mr. House says, even if he himself believes it. Using colony ships to find planets untouched by radiation is patently ridiculous, earth would heal itself a thousand times over before they found a planet thats even halfway hospitable for extended human stay.
He reminds me of elon musk in a way.
Good writing, actually logical and reasonable morally grey dialogue and atmosphere/art direction will ALWAYS trump raw graphical power. FACT.
Prove me wrong, you can't. Tech demos come and go but great stories and characters have never failed to stand the test of time.
"If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows..."
God DAMN.
"Prive me wrong, you can't"
No statement should ever go unchallenged.
This is charismatic dialog, but House's actions show he isn't to be really trusted.
@@ShadowSonic2 @Schlock Jocks How so? Sure he's not a goody-two shoes sait, nor is he the devil. House grew up from an orphan and nobody into one of the brightest minds humanity ever had. A little bit of ego, but if I achived what House did I would have that ego too. He has a long term plan and solution to humanity's problem, immune to corruption while retaining his humanity. He's talking about colony ships while others bicker over a barren dustbowl!
House takes care of the Legion and BoS, while solving the NCR's imperialistic expansion problem thats been crippling its economy. Kimball gets booted from office, Lee Oliver gets discharged and Cassandra Moore is put on a leash. Those soldiers finally get sent back home to their families and they can focus on strenghtening their territory and economy instead of stretching out far past their reach. House eventually rebuilds Vegas to its former glory with a good karma Courier keeping him in check as mentioned in the ending slideshow.
House isn't perfect. He's not a saint nor the devil, and he can come off as cold and ruthless at times, but he's the best choice we have available. He never killed anyone directly either. Only driving off raiders, khans and tribals from Vegas. Worst thing he's ever done is fill the lower levels of Vault 21 with concrete. And compared to the other faction heads? House might as well be a saint.
@@dinoluka11 “he’s never killed anyone directly” aside from forcing the courier to kill the entire mojave chapter of the brotherhood of steel if you want to continue his questline. forget about that part?
@@yourehereforthatarentyou Who cares about Brotherhood of Steel anyway? They are a big group of arrogant thieves that don't do anything but hoard and steal technologies for their personal use.
@@ImJustBob not really the point
Sounds good to me boss, where do we start.
Show me a map marker, I'll show you a task completed.
@@chaosinc.382 any paradox interactive game
My God, this is one of the moments in videogames I wish to live twice. I remember I've been speaking with House and dicking around Lucky 38 for almost two hours when I first played NV. Glad that now there's a chance that Microsoft might put Obsidian boys on another Fallout project
Cautious optimism, I dare not hope too much.
@@IcanSeeU0_0 There's always a guy like you to piss in other's cereal. A natural flow of things I suppose
@@purple_1884 He's got a point.
I'm still bitter at myself for expecting Outerworlds to be at NV's level.
@@purple_1884 His piss is well warranted, disappointment oft paves the way for further disappointment
@@IcanSeeU0_0 Come on, it was not that bad. A disappointment for sure, and little replay value, but it was a decent game. It just lacked that "oomp" we expected from the same people who created the original Fallout and NV.
I miss Rene Auberjonois. RIP, Mr. House.
I thought I recognized the voice.
The sole problem with benevolent dictators is that the greatest of works can be undone in a day by a single incompetent heir.
Robert E. House fixed that problem
Wait until i get my hands on him!
I recalled Commodus Aurelius when I think about that quote
Until he gets killed by the courier, Ave.
@@vincentvalentine4401 Its just Courier being too powerfull
@@vincentvalentine4401
Why would you kill him?!
Why Fallout NV is the best fallout game, because Todd had nothing to do with it
Or Emil, that guys writing is cancer on any project he works on.
The sad fact is House technically is the better option. Yes he's bleeding the NCR dry, but Ceasars Legion is no more, the NCR still exists, and the money they pour in actually does contribute to a rebuilding program. Sure places like Freeside suffer in the short term, but I doubt that House would let that continue for very long. After all, a rejuvenated Freeside has the potential for even more customers, and more customers = more money.
Yeah, I honestly feel like with time Vegas would eventually look how it did back in the day. If this game was made on current gen consoles, I feel like it would have very few broken down buildings and show a legit decent city. The limits of back then wouldnt let us see that
I’d say NCR is still the best option
House only really cares about the Strip and what’s making him money, he doesn’t care about the surrounding areas unless it’ll make him money, whereas the NCR is willing to work with other factions, including those they usually fight against, for things that involve the entire Mojave wasteland
@@hidan407 just look at what new vegas looked like in the all roads comic
What does House do to the Kings if they work out a cease fire with the NCR? Not an alliance, just a general amicable coexistence?
He has them all murdered.
People who claim that House is the better option don't understand that he his far from as dispassionate as he likes to pretend. I'm not going to say the NCR is perfect, as it has its own corruption and evil inherent in it, but I think it's the best of the choices availible.
@@luminozero he also forces the courier to wipe out the mojave brotherhood chapter in his questline
Is this what getting your Speech check passed feels like?
Mr House is a man that could be compared to the player going down a realistic path of some sort of civilization game.
He has no interest in being worshipped or just having power. He's trying to rekindle humanity, and his belief is that earth has had its time, and colonies on other systems is the correct course.
The NCR, Legion and their war are in his eyes no different than the ones that doomed the planet to nuclear hell. They follow the same path, and both have the same problems, both morally and functionally. But they are a threat the same, regardless of what either side believes. Mr. House sits on a very precarious position of essentially entrusting whoever puts the game in to trust that he is a good guy, regardless of how much he may seem like some big cold billionaire Capitalist only in anything for the money.
Only problem is that the tunnelers will ruin his plans when they get to New Vegas, personally I think the best option there is for New Vegas is to exterminate the Legion and to keep House and the NCR together until they can find a way to eradicate the tunnelers, then kick the NCR out.
I think he's right.
If people stay on Earth after something like Fallout happens even if they manage to actually formulate a functioning, normal society from the wreckage they'll never escape the long term spiritual, cultural, enviromental and fracturing damaged it caused.
It would be a world of anarchist and survialist playing at something they are not. Many who know they can return to indepedence and who's very destroyed world is at the fault of entrusting powers outside themselves.
Colonies are the way to go. A restart. A new city with a new identity.
@@OfficialFedHater Problem with that is the NCR is not much different than the Legion and will run House over if necessary tontheir expansionism. They're like early democracy, with all the flaws of said early democracy. For it's citizens its great since they have rights and representation through the government and freedoms. If you're not part of the NCR however, then you're as fair game as any petty fiend gang that roams the wastes, regardless of what partnership can benefit the two. I'm sure House would side with the NCR if they weren't both sitting on such a vital resource; Hoover Dam.
The NCR see House as a threat and despite not beating the game I'm pretty sure both the Legion and NCR have House killed to acomplish their goals. They are both relics of a bygone era that have run their course and failed. As House even says, if you wish to see the work of Democracy's; look out the window. Referring to the idea that because of being democratic the NCR is somehow good.
They're repeating History, and talking to house reveals that if either faction were to secure power over the other, House would be close behind. Joining together is out of the question. Whatever partnerships they have are as deep as they'll run. Mutual benefit that I would compare to the Molotov - Ribbentrop pact of the Second world war: An uneasy and not so friendly aggreement that is really just a formal "We're at peace for now."
@@anicjan4654 Technically the world should have been clean some 150 years prior. But the radiation seems to persist. Otherwise with House at the helm it would be relatively easy to rebuild society. But with two powerhungry factions at odds with each other, and House's damn caught in the middle; he sits in an unfortunate position.
@@radioactiverat8751 They're literally working together before the end of the game though, and with the divide fucked, they have a very long supply chain, House could easily remove them from the Mojave with his upgraded securitrons, especially if he uses them to help clear out the tunneler threat.
THEORY!!!! The Outer Worlds takes place in the Mr House ending
I like this idea. Would actually give the game’s message some weight.
probably not mr house would not let such incompetence as the corporations in that game exist
@@benscarbrough3986 That implies he would still be alive to oversee them. Mr House shares one fatal flaw with Ceasar. Whatever longetivity treatment he has is not perfect and he would eventually die. Once he is gone, the vision of that glorious future is gone. There have been a handful of competent rulers in history (King Matthias Hunyadi, or known in the west as Matthias Corvinus comes to mind for my home), and their deaths often result in things falling apart quickly afterwards, when there is nobody as competent to fill the void they are leaving, as whatever ruling body is left behind usually gets too comfortable with the good ruler to handle a bad, or even just a not as good one.
If only House brought the NV writers to the Outer Worlds, then the game might have been bearable.
@@fatfuck2384 Outer Worlds ain't that bad... I really like the priest companion and I totally lost it with the dumb suicide ending of the game lol
I wish they did more, the real problem is that it's too short and too small (I also want to know what happened to Earth damnit)
I literally got a random urge to listen to Mr house talk.
I just have ADHD and didn't pay attention to the whole worldview presentation before I realized that I couldn't backpeddle.
This is the sort of nuance in storytelling and interactions that only Obsidian could do and Bethesda struggles to emulate, or outright removed with its linear dialogue system of "Happy, Aggressive, Questioning and Sarcastic" options. You ask an NPC additional questions, and you get to the root of their motives, their character, their worldview and their goal.
The NCR is a corrupt bureaucratic faction that seeks the dependency of its civilians to keep them in check, and power to dominate. The Legion is a dictatorship that lives and dies on the ideals of Caesar, cruel and harsh on the outside but ultimately seeks a return of morality, and subsequent morality policing, with the goal to uplift humanity.
House is a wildcard with a vision for a sustainable future, not the most powerful of the three but well versed in power playing and political manoeuvring. Calculating that a war with the NCR would be a pyrrhic victory, and they would subsequently lose to the Legion. That he can then leverage that risk to the NCR to his advantage, to remain independent without the need to fight for it and even benefit with the repair of Hoover Dam and the economic boom. He is clever. You learn that all through simple conversation.
Fallout 4 lacks any of it and its all speculation. If you side with The Institute, does the Institute then open its doors and use its advanced tech to aid The Commonwealth? If you side with The Railroad, do they have any long term vision after the destruction of all the other factions? If you side with the Enclave 2.0 Brotherhood of Steel, would that make life worse living under the thumb of Maxon? The only sure bet is The Minutemen and they are by far the most boring of the lot. That game desperately needed a continuation or aftermath of the main story DLC and they never bothered. There is even cut content that the initial draft had an option to challenge Maxon for leadership of the Brotherhood using an old, unused rule to depose an Elder through combat... And they removed it. An option that could've made the Brotherhood a serious choice with the possibility of another Elder Lyons leadership.
*Mmhmm*
Very true. Let’s not forget about Obsidian’s new RPG The Outer Worlds though. The Board had zero nuance to them, they were just evil business men with no justification...
Best explanation I got from them was “the colony’s going to shit might as well ride it out in luxury”. The quest choices kinda sucked as well. Most from what I remember had a clear best choice with little down sides...
It’a kinda sad that Obsidians clear pro anarchist ideas ruined a good story
@Friendly Neighbourhood Sun Wheel It's still a good game honestly. I just really didn't like the Board, and some of the choices in it. It was basically if you had a high speech skill everything works out for everyone (kinda like Bethesda fallouts lol)
The irony is that house victory is a better ending for the NCR than NCR victory
House’s victory would develop the NCR even more and stop its overexpension policies while slowly turning it into an advanced civilization where peoples no longer struggle to get food but instead strive to get entertainment
@Yourtuytr 2
Its not but its better than living in craphole wasteland
And its also a chance to go forward and build solid foundations.
House living is more beneficial to the NCR than NCR continuing to overexpend until it grows to a bloating size and explode in multiple warring states.
@@KalashVodka175 And thats why House ending with good NCR reputation is best ending))
And also good karma,but sadly gonna need to make Kings fight against NCR tho
@@skell6134 In the grand scheme of things, it's a few lives that ensure a better outcome and the NCR couldn't care less about that little program, as far as the top brass was concerned, it was just a fool's errand. The NCR people knew what they signed up for.
@@combinecommando001 Fair
@@combinecommando001s house said himself on a different dialogue option chain in time the whole affair will be remembered simply as Kimball's foolish misadventure and life would continue on as usual
The best character in the Fallout universe.
he and the Shi, those lovelly chinese dudes and his supercomputer the emperor
Along w. Nick Valentine yessir
I’d say he’s number 2, right behind Harold
Joshua fucking Graham
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 Joshua Graham is a great character who is stuck in a meh DLC. Wish he was a bigger part of the main story.
This game was so well written
Honestly after playing through NV so many times its hard to disagree with House from a pure ideological standpoint.
He’s a fascist libertarian bureaucrat what’s not to like 😬😬😬
@@jenks7588 what
“fascist libertarian” sir, what?
@@jenks7588 combining words you barely know the meaning of together doesn’t make you sound smarter🤯🤯🤯
@@jenks7588 Okay calm down there
Mr house is one of the most well written characters in not just gaming but entertainment as a whole. And the way Rene delivers the lines of dialogue make it even better house is a fascinating character and easily my favorite out of any fallout game.
Couldn't agree more.
House will always come second to the toaster
"If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows."
He's not wrong, but that is one COLD thing to say.
And you know, kinda relevant at the moment.
Unfettered democracy tends to lead to oligarchies or tyranny.
Is democracy a good system
Hell no
Is there a better one
....gonna have to get back to you on that one
@@simonnachreiner8380 monarchy with good kings
Since when democracy was in china in fallout? Plus there was a lot of corruption in usa gov
Yeah, I'm not sure whether democracy can be entirely blamed for the nuclear war. It's not as if the people of America democratically elected to nuke themselves.
Mr. House's voice actor passed away in 2019. I feel like I have to appreciate all these clips of New Vegas with him that much more now.
3:16 this is the conversation that convinces me of siding with House every time
Too bad it doesn't make any sense though. He'll be embargoed immediately by the NCR and his economy will come to a crashing hault
@@ajmari9585 embargo the supplier of water and electricity?
Oh that won't be very popular in NCR no no no
Any administration that did that would immediately be thrown from office
@@rejvaik00 The problem with that theory is that the Hoover Dam is more a luxury than necessity. Remember, the NCR has only been in control of the dam for 7 years or so, and the NCR was doing VERY well before discovering the dam, the water seems mostly used for the Mojave operations like the sharecroppers and the dam isn't the only form of electricity. We see generators powering lights and equipment all over NCR camps, luxury, not a necessity, and if House price gauges like he plans too, would be an easy rallying cry to embargo, NCR can go far longer without the dam than House can without the NCR it seems.
It doesn't make sense, he seems to forget that he doesn't have power as much as what he has before the great war, before the war he was a billionaire and probably one of the richest man on earth, but after the war? All he got is a bunch of securitrons a few casino, sure it make sense for him to turn New Vegas into Las Vegas in a few decades, but his idea to go space is crazy.
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 he updated his securitrons and surely the first factory he would made would be a securitrons one
He is the "Autocrat" that we need but we don't deserve.
I sided with Mr. House every time, because of that line right there, under him, humanity has a future. The NCR is a replica of what led to the burned world and would inevitably lead to it again, The legion has no future in mind, the courier's yes man is a selfish gambit that cannot contribute to the future of humanity, only house gives that option and talks about that option.
The brotherhood of steel that I loved in FO3 are nothing compared to the new vegas BoS who are selfish and imo completely evil, hoarding tech, no future there either.
It would depend if you believe in Mr House's vision, as cold and uncaring as he is.
@@Ketaruz As someone who killed Mr. House in one play-through, his reaction during his moment of death was that he firmly believed in that vision, his death was solidified when we opened his casket, it could not be undone, so he had no reason to lie (i.e. to save his life) and even wished for a quick death after it was opened.
He's right(or more realistically.. well written). You build up an empire through consumerism. People work hard to play hard. Once people can start having time off instead of being in the grind, economies always take off. Time off to spend and also time off to innovate for ways for consumers to spend on you. That's how you get a strong nation. Now that doesn't mean that consumerism is the ideal society, it's just how to get a strong empire fast. It feeds off of human nature. Nations built on ideals over nature are always doomed to fail, even if the ideal is better.
Fallout TV shows will either fuck this up in Season 2 or give us something interesting. At least, it vaguely confirmed that Mr House ending is canon
I mean House is fucked as it seems his plan was to use the NCR as his customer base and without the NCR it seems that his plans have no way of happening they probably will make his ending cannon in attempt to explain the fall of the NCR much better also probably somehow saying he didn't expect the NCR was going to collapse the TV show seems to be setting up that the west coast is the East Coast in which everything is rickety shaqs like in DC and Boston
@erickrasniewski567 As far as we know, that's only Shady Sands and LA region. The rest of the nation might be weakened but still functioning.
@@evanthompson7494exactly. I think season 2 is gonna show branches of the NCR in NV/the Mojave, the NCR had gotten too big at that point to be completely gone just because shady sands was nuked
@@jackdubs25 I can imagine it either being severely weakened and shrinking significantly thanks to greedy neighbours, or splitting into north/south baja/san francisco republic deal
Mr. House is a pretty reasonable character. All he really wants is control of the Vegas Strip and for people to have somewhere comfortable to spend their money and feel safe. Yeah, he's a capitalist from the Old World, but he was also the only one at the table who didn't waste any resources trying to protect at least a portion of humanity. He went all in.
This is why Mr. House is The Correct Choice.
I mean, he can look like a crazy man that want vegas for himself, but is the only one that now how keep it running, and he is right, the democracy don't work
Ceasar's legion is the only right choice.
Mateo Reyes Democracy can work in some cases, but it sure as hell cant work in a Post Apocalyptic World. The people don’t know what they even want except survival in that setting. They aren’t looking for advancement like House is. A few might be but not everyone.
Its obvious that he was gonna go off the rails (In one way or another) with all the power he woupd eventually gain. BUT the sole survivor being alive and his close confidante, while also having many close they themselves coule help steer house to keep to his true vision
@@dm3402 The courrier like a Right hand man and the companions being loyal workers?
I always saw the potential of house abusing his power one day or being clouded with the desire to grow farther than he can eventually handle but he is definitely the best choice for the Mojave. I’d continue as to why but the other great people of the comment section has already talked about it
i doubt it if hes even prone to abusing power or clouded judgment, hes 200++ years old and knows what hes doing. the main negative side of house is that he is claustrophobic for new vegas
@@TheTriangle444 The risk of him dying is the one to worry about. Crack his tank once, he's done for good. A huge point of fragility.
@@totmgsrockxd9900 thats not a risk. In over 2 centuries no man has stepped inside lucky 38 except for a character out of god himself.
@@TheTriangle444 His tech may break down and if life support/containment is affected, he gets yeeted.
@@totmgsrockxd9900 again he has already lived for almost 3 centuries. He fricking survived the resource war, survived the death of his physicality, he survived the nuclear bombs that destroyed the planet, he survived the fallout, and will continue living and surviving because he has a plan to maintain himself from the beginning of it all. Hes not going to die by accident he has calculated all the risks. Its just that the courier is the hand of god that we are able to kill him
I just absolutely love Mr House as a character. The writing in this game is some of the best ever in videogames.
I feel like people assume that because his flaws are not as readily visible as those of the NCR or Legion, House is somehow better than them. In the end, I can't honestly say I think he is. He's got a clear plan, unlike the NCR, and it isn't built on cult-of-personality like Caesar's, but these very things are what make the plan brittle. His plan functions just as well without him, and it's only his conceit that makes him believe he's necessary for it. And, beyond that, his own disinterest in the very people he's supposed to be ruling leads him to repeatedly alienate his subjects and miss vital information. It's safe to assume Benny and the Omertas won't be isolated incidents, where his own callous disregard would have lead to his downfall without the courier.
This is true, however unlike the other two, he does have the means and experiance to grow far larger and bring his subjects higher than the NCR or Caesar's legion can with their own
Oh, give me a disinterested ruler any time. His plan still needs the stability i would want from a regime in a post apocaliptic wasteland, but none of the "great ideas" you usually get from despots and mobs of idiots voting for those sharing their retarded ideologies and religions that they think you should also have, no matter what you think about it. The worst rulers, are usually the ones who are very much interested in their subjects, and are fully convinced that them forcing their ideal for how your life should look like is in your best interest, and their duty. All the worst atrocities in history were done by people who thought they are doing it for some greater good.
Doesn't his plan involve a "technological and economic visionary" though? There aren't so many of those and particularly not one who is impervious to other corrupting influences who would not tell people how to lead their private lives, who would focus on the long-term goal and not short-term personal gain. Take humanity back into orbit within 50 years. That is him. At least according to him it is. The question is do you believe him? But that is not a plan, on those terms, that functions without him (or someone like him - and is there someone else like him?).
@@AleaIactaEst2009 Well the man is a post human at this point and the last posthuman certianly got far with his own plans
@@darkwingduke1631 Yep , I think it's an interesting question whether his plan would work. I quite like House. I just thought it was perhaps not accurate to say "His plan functions just as well without him". It seems to me he is pivotal to it.
I can’t not hear Odo
Dammit when I finally played this game, Odo was all I could hear too.
A testament to this game’s writing is that it’s managed to convince myself and many others that a dictatorship isn’t an inherently bad idea.
A dictatorship is always a horrible idea, what are you talking about. Man people are spoiled today...
Nothing can really be an inherently bad idea. But some ideas are undoubtedly better than others
@@gorillagaming8722 it's just as bad as being burdened with heavy taxation while having the illusion of freedom. At least the Legion and Mr. House are clear about their goals and vision of the future. The NCR just beats around the bush.
@@carlosnot4682 its really not...it can be a whole lot worsr
I mean under a man like house it seams like a good idea but realistically what is stopping the man in charge from abusing his power for his personal goal with no way to get him out of office and with no opposition to stand against him I mean look what happened in Germany and the USSR
...When i think about it, i'm starting to see House as a person playing Strategy games like Civilization, Age of Empires, and the like.
think of it, when you play strategy games, how much do you care about the individuals of your city? when was the last time you gave a crap about one singular soldier in age of empires. and how effectively could you play starcraft if your units were to say "actually, you know what? No. ain't doing it" imagine giving soldiers in your strategy games deep personalities that can make them refuse attacking certain things.
house is basically playing civilization here, trying to reach the technology ending.
Elsewhere in this comment section someone made the analogy that Mr. House is like a hardcore player of Simcity. He doesn’t really care about any of the people he rules, he doesn’t care about bribes, as they don’t have any real value to him, and even if he were to succeed, it wouldn’t really benefit him in a substantial way. He’s elevating humanity to the space age just to prove that he can, like someone playing a game on the hardest difficulty just for bragging rights.
I love the confidence and the trust between the Courier and Mr. House. He's willing to tell you every bit of his plan and trust that you'll carry it out, with the confidence that you'll get it done right. Obsidian did such a great job with this story.
Man, i can hear Mr House talk for hours but i cant even hear my teacher for 1 minutes
I won't lie, I would NOT mind working with House. He's technically right about literally every word coming out of his technological mouth.
You've been swayed by his charisma, which is the point of the character. His actual intentions and actions are far from this idealism that seeps from his words.
@@vassalofthenight9945 which is what then?
@@Drumpro31 he sees people as tools, similar to his robots (and vice versa, with treating Jane like a human) - to be used and discarded if they're no longer useful - as he does with the gamblers who are out of caps on the strip. He uses the fiends for his own goals - to distract NCR and create a scare, a boogeyman, to force people into paying for safety on the Strip. He has no interest beyond earning caps and pursuing his vision. He doesn't help Freeside or Westside or anyone else - even though he has the resources, he just doesn't care. Anything and anyone that doesn't serve or isn't useful to his plan is not important to him. I'd argue that even if he had unlimited money he'd not rebuild Freeside, so that the gamblerd coming into the strip will be more grateful for the safety and will appreciate everything more. He might even be using the "walk through Freeside" as a suspension bridge effect, in order to create more demand for safety, just like what he uses the fiends for. It's even mentioned in the new vegas radio.
He'll work you to your physical and mental limits (just look at Michaelangelo) and when you're no longer useful he'll dump you.
He'll say things like "i don't care about being worshipped as some machine god messiah" and "im impervious to such things" but his obituary and his general actions stand very much in the contrary to these words - he deems himself the master of the human race.
If you choose House, he'll likely do what he said he would. He'll return to the ways of the old world, reignite technology research and colonize other planets. But it'll come at a cost of humanity being his plaything. There's a reason why he collects the snowballs after all.
Anyone else here after the Fallout Show? SPOILERS AHEAD
The fact that House knew about the Vaults and Vault-Tec's plan to start the nuclear war themselves makes it kinda questionable that he didn't have the Platinum Chip ready in time.
I mean it only confirmed that vault tec planned to cause the war, not that they absolutely did it. The unfinished vaults they have and other clues seems to indicate that they were caught a bit of guard too. But the meeting probably made house speed up his plans
I mean he did though, but it seems he underestimated the time too much.
I mean being 24 hours off target is pretty close. Just bad luck, really.
Not gonna lie, his words are like honey. He paints a very attractive picture. He means it too. Makes me wonder why he's treated like the bad guy. *Oh yeah.* what he did to the Kings and the Brotherhood. Oh well, as they say when you're making the mother of all omelets ya can't fret over every egg.
The Kings are thugs and Brotherhood are a military faction just waiting for the chance to take over Vegas. Mr . House literally did nothing wrong.
Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.
He's still a tyrant and that rubs us in the west the wrong way.
But he is a Tyrant with a real vision, and the capacity to execute on it. In a world with horrible choices, it's not the worst you can do.
Also - I believe going with Mr. House actually benefited the NCR. Their reactionary leader and imperialist tendencies would have been contained by scandal, and new leaders who are a bit less foolish would have a chance to rise, and in canon lore - this did occur. Kimbal lost the election, and the NCR stopped recklessly expanding.
While he was mocking democracies here - the main benefit of democracies is they can evolve. If you embarrass or humiliate or defeat them - the nation is capable of learning and improving.
welp guess ima replay fallout new vegas for the 569584275289475763452th time
Hey, it's the 10th aniversary, if not now when
Rookie numbers.
This applies for good karma runs
NCR: snowball into war again
Brotherhood: Technology in the hands of a few is EXACTLY what caused the apocalypse
Legion: no
Independent: Good for Mojave yes, but is not as beneficial for the future
Yes man: independent but your a dictator now
Mr. House: Good for the future, the world isnt fit to live on, keep him in check though.
Yo House, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish but there are some settlements that need liberating.
He isnt perfect but definitely the better choice than 🐻 or 🐂
That's what i love about New Vegas. Every faction has tangible pros and cons and no one is in the right. NCR could claim New Vegas if they wanted to, but then they would be crushed by Legion so no one oversteps their welcome.
Though i really wish there was a companion with ties to the Legion. As is we got 2 NCR, 1 Followers, 1 Brotherhood and 2 neutral while it's already almost impossible to side with Legion prior to meeting Ceasar.
Ulysses was meant to be a Legion affiliated companion but he was cut out from the base game and put into the Lonesome Road DLC.
There are also a few Legion modded companions as well if you don't mind going the modded route.
First ncr companion is Boone and another one?
@@aycsfvmk1289 Rose of Sharon Cassidy
The problem is that the legion's society is totalitarian which means that individuals who embrace such ideology would never want to pursue something that isn't the will of the legion. The only way a legion affiliated follower would have worked would be if caesar ordered them to follow us
no i dont want that i want victor as your companion god dammit
While Mr. House talks about unimpeded progress he fails to realize the fact that unimpeded progress for progresses sake is exactly what lead to the nuclear wasteland the game is set in.
So he is going to further humanity's technological progress and permit each individual to pursue their respective agenda without hindrance.
This may be a personal thing but compared to the Legion's affinity to slavery, NCR's tendencies towards corruption and the uncertain future of a free Vegas, it's too easy for me to pick House over the rest of them.
Besides, House is a súper genius, adquiring new resources he can invent anything, maybe even make inmortal
So Yeah....a really good option
House's thing is that you find evidence he's lying. Like how he filled that Vault with cement because it was a place he had no control over.
….Mr house is right
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Listening to the dialogue after watching his small tine in the TV show reinfoces to me the show nailed House. Its ashame Rene Aburjnois passed away I'd have loved for him to voice house in season 2.
Rene's voice is irreplaceable.
I almost believe him about those colony ships.
"Nor have I any interest in being worshiped as some kind of Machine God Messiah...."
100 years later:
"All hail the Omnisiah! Blessed be the Machine spirit!
House: "God damn it...."
"Not have I any Interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah"
Bound to machinery that keeps them alive
Sealed in towering structure within an urban center
Trying to put humanity on a path of prosperity
House and the God-Emperor seem to have a few things in common
That's an interesting observation.
Excerpt from the Emperor's conversation with Uriah Olathaire, Priest of the Church of the Lightning Stone, the last church on Terra.
Big E: "Nothing of such grand scale can be achieved without a singular vision at its heart, least of all the reconquest of the Galaxy."
Uriah :"Didn't you just tell me of the bloody slaughters perpetrated by crusaders? Doesn’t that make you no better than the holy men you were telling me about?"
Big E: "The difference is I know I am right."
It's no coincidence House prefers to call himself "Autocrat". He and the Emperor of Mankind are one and the same.
“You’re free to live on my property and do as you please; so long as you don’t touch my stuff nor get in my way”
I can live with that. While he cares about the Strip, the Strip is the people and he knows he still needs to not rule over them directly or the way they live.
They just don’t have a say when it comes to bills.
I always imagined the courier sitting and eating iguana bits as House is giving his speech about New Vegas and it's plans for the future.
I’d take a benevolent dictator over a malevolent democrat any day.
Hard truths.
Aaaaand there is an 80% chance this is the canon ending
"GIVE ME 20 YEARS AND-"
"Well..... I really didn't expect there to be more BOS, mole people, and a red mist full of ghost people..... Fuck."
Pulled that number straight outta your ass didn't ya?
@@Dogtles House won, the NCR got ousted from the dam and Vegas, then a year later their capital got nuked by Vault-Tec. Chaos ensues, but House probably is still alive in some form, probably the reason why Hank is going to Vegas at the end.
The House always wins.
Mr. House raises a lot of good points that make him one of the best characters throughout the Fallout series. He doesn't want to build an empire across a broken nuclear wasteland and instead, wishes to make a new home away from it all based on technology and advancement. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest characters in gaming and factions in Fallout.
I could never understand why John Caleb Bradburton, the “inventor” of Nuka Cola never went to see Mr House in the first place. This is a man who has not only succeeded in keeping his entire body (somewhat) preserved and functional, but also utilises an army of robots to maintain control over the Strip. John could have negotiated with House for a similar setup in Nuka World, instead of spending 200 years looking at the same three walls within his personal vault as a head in a jar.
John probably didn't know about how House had gotten the man/machine interface working properly. Remember, the Military deliberately screwed Bradburton.
Shane they didn't realize they could have worked together. House's Securitrons armed with the Nuka Weaponry Bradburton created would have meant New Vegas would have always been powerful enough for independence.
I'd follow this man to hell and back.
Odo, is that what you do if the Federation doesn't supervise you?
RIP René
RIP Rene Auberjoinois
❤❤❤
The ends justify the means. A term like Autocrat has a negative connotation but in all reality there are times when the population needs a good kick in the rear, as is the case with the fallout universe. Anything freeform like democracy would keep the wasteland the way it is, anarchy . House knows it , as does Caesar.
Sic semper tyrannis
Holy crap- Mr. House is Odo from DS9! That makes... a lot of sense actually.
his main flaw can be summed up by him saying that he's impervious to getting drunk on power like every other autocrat in history, which in and of itself is a delusion of grandeur
True, but he didn't seem to when he was on top of the world before the war. Other then the H&H tools factory, but that was kinda justified
Remember: he may have lengthened his life, but his brain WILL eventually decay. That's why letting him have all that power is so dangerous.
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts same regard for giving power to any other faction. NCR will end up with someone like kimball and lee or any other corrupt politician and legion will be legion. the point isn't about who will rule longer but who will be bring most benefit in long term after their system died. Even if mr house brain is decaying, either he will die or transform himself to full AI or just die(but the assh*les in big mt can prolong their lifespan so i don't think mr house will go away in near 1000 years) either way whatever the outcome will bring massive progressive in technlogy and economy to new vegas that can be taken over by next system.meanwhile NCR will only left corrupt system with almost no progress with someone like kimball in charge and legion probably will end up like alexander the great empire when caesar finally die.
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts The reason he is in the tube is precisely so his brain doesnt deteriorate, if your courier has low medicine skill he will say Mr.House is a brain in a jar he then says that he isn't because brains do deteriote in biogel
In the show, House is the only one who openly doesn't want to participate. He undermines the others in the room. He's a man of big ego and the show shows that with just a few seconds
for those who want to listen to more "House" watch Star Trek deep space 9. Unfortunately he passed away though. Was hoping we could meet house again in a sequel down the road
Seven seasons of Mr. House hanging out with Andrew Ryan.
@@kyleowsen OMG I didn't realise that! House and Quark would've been besties for sure.😆
I hope his ending is canon when Fallout New Orleans comes out
Such a cool voice actor! 2:58 his delivery here is insane!
I mean That's You mr house
Now what I’m older, House is the best future for humanity.
Legion is going too far backwards and the NCR are just like imperialism.
Agreed
Yes man is too optimistic. Power corrupts all, whoever reigns control of the Mojave next in that scenario, I doubt they'll be better than the other options. Plus yes man always reminded me of skynet
@@diffsnicker6570 Actually Yes Man is about removing all higher powers from the region and leaving the people to themselves. AKA An anarchist society.
OMG WE MIGHT ACTUALLY SEE IF HE HOLDS UP HIS PROMISES IN THE FALLOUT SHOW AHHHHHH IM SO HAPPY TO SEE HIM AGAIN!
I think we'll see he tried, however I believe that Lucy will have to help him fight the tunnelers and push back the red cloud
I REALLY hope this is the case it would be BADASS @smiley4995
"...the folly of a bygone generation."
You mean... *your* generation...
Be it his generation, he never agreed to Vaults or Wars to begin with.
Thus why he puts himself aside from it.
Mr House is precisely who I would want to control the world. A powerful autocrat who takes over everything…..and then leaves everybody the hell alone.
Perfection.
Courier: What's to keep you from abusing your power?
House: My judgement.
So we're supposed to just trust him on his word that he won't go power hungry?
Basically lmao
First thing he does in the House ending is have his Securitrons patroling New Vegas like a gestapo legion. But at least the monorail runs on time.
3:09 So outer worlds based on the house ending in new vegas
lol thats what I said
Yah, no. Ulysses is right, House can't stop living in the past, nothing new would come from him. He'd just become more paranoid and kill and oppress more people until that golf club shows up.
There’s a problem with that theory: YOU. To specify, a Very Good Courier would be by Mr. Houses side, advising him.
I could fix him.
House is kinda based
Mr. House seems like the most based faction leader in NV.
I feel like house shouldn't have had an ending where he forcefully removes the NCR simply because it kinda screws him over in the end. By throwing the treaty into the trash NCR could basically starve Vegas economically, it should have been written as a stealthier approach where he "accepts" NCR rule while truelly just manipulating them to advance his own gains and eventually just blasts off into space as he said
It’s the slides regarding the treatment of Kings with NCR civilians and the slide for Primm under NCR protection they scratch my head.
I feel like Mr House is the best kind of dictator. He only cares about the bottom line not peoples personal lives or blind alliance to the state. Not saying it’s good just compared to other more Authoritarian dictators(Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc) it’s just more preferable.
I would describe myself as libertarian, but Mr House swayed me to his side in this game. As long as he remained the autocrat of his own establishment, Vegas would be in good hands, but it must always be House because of his very particular set of utilitarian moral codes. The world of Fallout needs a firm hand to guide it, because it is so lawless and chaotic.
Horro vacui, or nature abhors a vacuum.
House's system pretty much is libertarian, might be a single person on top but he doesnt plan to interfere with anyone's personal lives or freedom
paegan Autocracy enforced linertarianism lmao
@@elgringosupremo hoppe would approve
What he basically wants for New Vegas is some kind of transform into Night City, but with more ambitions for colonization of other planets. That city is ruled by corporations.