All those bad memories of being one shot are a little too real when that thing starts driving around. Hull is looking good with its new coat of green paint though.
@@rennie44 except the 279(e) in wot isn't actually the 279(e). The one in Wot is the Obj.726 but they decided to name it the Obj.279(e) purely because that tank is more popular irl
@@rennie44 Funnily enough, WG had actually modelled the real Obj. 279. I believe it has a tank tag (like for example T-54 has a tag R40 and AMX 13 90's tag is F17). So you never know...
The full Tiger is at T7, is outclassed and dies a quick death unless you are like Quickybaby with an exceptional crew and all the perks. The 131 at T6 again poor gun but fun to play and with a good crew you can do a lot and gain good credits.
Ah, yes, the "good" old days where Tiger 1 could be set on fire from the front, every 2nd hit was an ammorack, driver died every second and the consumables could be used only 1 time per game. I think a lot of us (yes, me too) went to get the Tiger in the game only to end up with a poor crew in a matchmaking infested with IS-3, IS-6, KV-1S that could demolish you easily while the 203 pen wasn't that great against them.
and then it got worse, type 59 a medium with heavy armor and insane mobility, the super pershing a very strong medium with heavy armor. and thus the game went full pay to win
Managed to 3MoE this tank today. Very underrated tank in my oppinion. DPM does very good job and you are able to trade prety well. Gun handling in other hand is not the best and sometimes can be very anoying.
@@teamfieroline3400OP with good MM, but punchy enough to be relevant as a support tank in T8 as long as you don't get focused. The problem is the armor is paper.
Loving the Tiger is certainly a cliche, but a far less obnoxious one than the "Akshually... the Tiger like totally sucked and (insert favorite tank from my country) was 463% superior!" hipsters.
There's always the extreme between the left side and the right side. The left side is certain Tiger is invincible, should have win the war. The right side just calls people who just love this box of a tank a wehraboo., as their favorite tank is Sherman and why it's powerful. I felt I'm in the middle, just loves Tiger while fully aware of it's flaw and what's not
Just started playing World of Tanks last week. Used the combat code to get started and got 10 rentals of the Tiger131. It is far and away my favorite and the first tank that I fell in love with! I'm hoping I can find a suitable replacement as I'm already out of rentals! Great vid man
11:00 Qb it’s called hot spring, the reason why I started wot was because of my dad and that was 12 years ago and now I am almost 19 years old,how time flies!
tigers are nice tanks to play, if they loading ap shells against a tiger its difficult to pen if you angle it good, if the enemy loading apcr or heat than is the fun over, like when i shoot with the fast shooting gun of a sherman full of apcr:D
Tiger 1 and Tiger P are underated tech tree tanks but if I see a premium tank shooting a stock tech tree tank they're on my list to be ... "removed" >l:(
I dont even play world of tanks and ive been watching your channel for over five years. I love your videos. You are one of the best youtubers on the platform. Keep up the great work!
@@Todsor it was simply too demanding in all aspects. We would do tower attacks as factions (clans) and this required like 4-5 hours of continuous gameplay to coordinate. You couldn't basically just log in play for 20-30 minutes then log out. Let alone other gameplay aspects that were already too hard. If you can invest so much, sure go ahead. Idk how much gameplay has changed since then.
@@brucedeo1981 Thanks, i guess i will just stick to WoT for now. 4-5 hours? holy moly. I thought Dota was too time consuming with matches lasting for 50 min on average.
I may as well add in the comments. When I used to watch the History channel they had a show called greatest tank battles and the one episode where they introduced the hellcat against the Panthers is what made me want to play world of tanks. I believe that was right around 2013 or 2014. I had been aware of the game but I never made an account and I specifically wanted to get up to the hellcat. Fortunately for me the very weak I created my account was the week it got nerfed. Actually all TD's had gotten nerfed
TY 🙏🙏 If Excalibur capped, they would have won, or at least spotted the Tiger to possibly get extra hits on it. Enemy team didn't coordinate enough. Easy to say in hindsight though.
problem with the Tiger 1 is it is tiered with tanks that were built a few years later to kill Tigers If you made it a T4 it would be like the historical Tigers, the beast!
I never played the tech tree tiger (the first tank I went for in the game was actually the T71, the tank that would be renamed the T71 DA), but I did get the Heavy Tank VI, the Japanese tiger, for free and even though the armor isn’t special even in tier 6, you have HP and view range
Tiger had quite a bad reputation in the old days, which I think was undeserved. It had 20% more HP and DPM than T29 and IS, which people overlooked. Maybe it comes down to preffered playstyle, but I had the best score out of those three in Tiger by substantial margin.
@@3starperfectdeer233 meh gun? No tier 7 heavy has better gun than Tiger. IS maybe if we talk specifically about close combat city maps, that's about it.
7:50 The box tank has a 130mm gun in reality. There's a funny video of jingles comparing the box tank's gun to that of the is-7 many years ago and he just chuckles away at how overpowered the box tank was to have such a gun.
I remember when the japanese premium Tiger came out and was on a discount. I bought it and had a mission: Making it the ultimative anime/weeb Tank, getting overly colourful camo, all female crew, etc. Once I tried a round of clan-wars as a mercinary (is it called that?), where I joined a random clan for a single battle. They allowed me playing it and it payed off. The macth ended in a 2 vs 5, my mate got sniped and I shot down the last enemy light tank. The rest of the enemy where a KV-2, Churchill, O-I and a tankdestroyer wich I can´t recall wich one it was. In the end: I used my maxed view range, every little bit of cover and camo to pick them off one by one, while keep changing positions and laying ambushes. Never had that kind of feeling of beeing a force of nature in any other Tank. That round could had been a propaganda piece for the "invincible" Tiger tank.......if it was cursed from the horendous camo alone XD
I put my quakybaby commander on my German heavy tank crew, and Lowe ^^ I really enjoy the quotes :] Although I am going for the other heavies, Tiger-P and so on... Love your channel man.. you need to know that ! for CS:GO the best channel for gameplay and tactics is WarOwl for world of tanks you are the man :]
And not to forget to mention "back in the daaaays" TDs wont lose camouflage when shooting - I miss that times (I know, E25 is still capable of it and I enjoy it)
The Tiger 131 is one of my personal favorite tanks. I have only run it 5 time but I have a 100% victory rate with it. Haven't run it since, don't want to jinx that 100%.
I got the Tiger P before I got the Tiger 1 (I'm a front line kind of heavy tank player), and I was hesitant to try the Tiger 1 from looking at the armor. Nowadays, Tiger 1 is the only tank I can *regularly* get up into the 95% for damage (i.e. threshold for three marks of excellence), and is the only tank I have three marks on. Thanks to the Tiger 1, I realized that I shouldn't try to make the tank fit my playstyle, rather I should adjust my playstyle to fit the tank. Edit: yes, I know the video has Tiger 131, not Tiger 1.
It's nice that everyone thinks that the tiger tank is tier 7, but in reality it is tier 6 and always has been because its full name is Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger and the Roman numeral 6 is not a joke.
Great game. The game was better back in "The day". Graphics not great, less options and ways to tweak tanks, Gold rounds where Special, MM was all over the place, NO mods or extras. BUT people where less toxic, a lot more teamwork was required, ALL chat was fun, Tactics where a big part of winning. NO EBR's ! to make map seem so small. Though Grinding was HORRIBLE. Great game, glad to see you bring the Tiger out of it's NEST and play it, not it's DEN 🤣. Great Game QB and Rock on Tankers 😎🤘
can replay manager play older replays now? have bunch of them where I had to use another program because the website did not have the "engine" to show those replays..like when yo u dominated with your t5 kv2 and derped all those pesky tier 3's
I just grinded my first Tiger 1, in the first game In I got 6 kills and soaked up a ton of damage. Such a fun tank. I'm looking forward to hating it/myself once I go up against T8 tanks. 😂
Tiger 1 was a massive disappointment in the early days of WOT. The issue with it was it was a 1941 tank tier matched with 1945 tanks designed to beat it. That meant it's "amazing armor" was outclassed by nearly everything being thrown at it. 76mm guns struggled, but 90s went right through. And guess what, everything tier for tier was 90mm. Add in the issues with transmissions, ammo racks, and fires and the tank was just okay. Everyone that knew anything about tank history knew the Tiger was massively underpowered for where it got tiered at. It's still a bit of a glass cannon heavy and that's not fun. But that's why 131 and HT6 are so much better. They are where the Tiger should be in the tech tree and the armor feels useful tier for tier. The gun is still surprisingly good vs Tier 8s as well which is what you want. I love my 131. PS. I miss historical battles. Tiger 1s vs T-34s and KVs, but withe fewer numbers was where it was at. Tiger felt like it was a Tiger, but it also struggled with rate of fire getting outnumbers.
Can anyone tell me what the "31" next to QB's tank icon on the team list means ?? only half of the players seem have one. I have been wondering for a while
I like the tiger dont get me wrong, but the vk 36 is a whole other beast, its absolutely disgusting at tier 6. Tier 6 or below you just shred everything, its quite a chonker, so you put a turbo and ram someone for a couple hundred, shred them with insane dpm.
Ye, box tank can be scary sometimes :) By the way QB have u seen my new dmg record 10k battle in BZ-167 is on wotreplay. Never expected to do 10k in a t8 but i guess it happens :)
Hey... this Tiger seems pretty familiar...
Yooo
You use those bragging rights every time you get 🤓
1:30 he says, the very year FV4005 is being restored to running condition for Tankfest
All those bad memories of being one shot are a little too real when that thing starts driving around. Hull is looking good with its new coat of green paint though.
@@Seafish84Well I've got even worse news for you. The Russians at Kubinka... Got the Object 279 running about a year ago.
@@rennie44 except the 279(e) in wot isn't actually the 279(e). The one in Wot is the Obj.726 but they decided to name it the Obj.279(e) purely because that tank is more popular irl
@@NoobMicestersYea I know lol, it's the mere mention of the name though that give people the shivers remembering its pre nerf days
@@rennie44 Funnily enough, WG had actually modelled the real Obj. 279. I believe it has a tank tag (like for example T-54 has a tag R40 and AMX 13 90's tag is F17). So you never know...
QB, Jingles and Ike playing together - the pinnacle of WOT TH-cam.
Don't forget Claus trolling them in the comments, especially Jingles! Ah, the good ol' days!!
The full Tiger is at T7, is outclassed and dies a quick death unless you are like Quickybaby with an exceptional crew and all the perks. The 131 at T6 again poor gun but fun to play and with a good crew you can do a lot and gain good credits.
my first tank aswell, got 7 kills in kharkov when it still was in the game and felt unstoppable. That must have been about 5 years ago.
Ah, yes, the "good" old days where Tiger 1 could be set on fire from the front, every 2nd hit was an ammorack, driver died every second and the consumables could be used only 1 time per game.
I think a lot of us (yes, me too) went to get the Tiger in the game only to end up with a poor crew in a matchmaking infested with IS-3, IS-6, KV-1S that could demolish you easily while the 203 pen wasn't that great against them.
dont forget you are big, slow box and old arty would eat you alive
and then it got worse, type 59 a medium with heavy armor and insane mobility, the super pershing a very strong medium with heavy armor. and thus the game went full pay to win
When I first started it was World of Hellcats.
Managed to 3MoE this tank today. Very underrated tank in my oppinion. DPM does very good job and you are able to trade prety well. Gun handling in other hand is not the best and sometimes can be very anoying.
It’s actually kinda OP, along with HT6.
@@teamfieroline3400OP with good MM, but punchy enough to be relevant as a support tank in T8 as long as you don't get focused. The problem is the armor is paper.
congrates to 3rd moe :-)
Loving the Tiger is certainly a cliche, but a far less obnoxious one than the "Akshually... the Tiger like totally sucked and (insert favorite tank from my country) was 463% superior!" hipsters.
Haha spot on mate, thank you for commenting this
I smell a neckbeard
Real af
There's always the extreme between the left side and the right side.
The left side is certain Tiger is invincible, should have win the war.
The right side just calls people who just love this box of a tank a wehraboo., as their favorite tank is Sherman and why it's powerful.
I felt I'm in the middle, just loves Tiger while fully aware of it's flaw and what's not
@@sirbachelorboredmen1314those people with that idea of thought are long gone.
Nowadays it's yanks and tankies who think their medium tanks were mbts
Tiger 131 one of my most played tanks. I've been to the Tiger Day at Bovington, it was a great day out to see this iconic tank going around the arena.
Good to see you having fun again! For awhile your videos were a little stale, but your energy in this one was refreshing
Just started playing World of Tanks last week. Used the combat code to get started and got 10 rentals of the Tiger131. It is far and away my favorite and the first tank that I fell in love with! I'm hoping I can find a suitable replacement as I'm already out of rentals! Great vid man
11:00 Qb it’s called hot spring, the reason why I started wot was because of my dad and that was 12 years ago and now I am almost 19 years old,how time flies!
tigers are nice tanks to play, if they loading ap shells against a tiger its difficult to pen if you angle it good, if the enemy loading apcr or heat than is the fun over, like when i shoot with the fast shooting gun of a sherman full of apcr:D
Tiger 1 and Tiger P are underated tech tree tanks but if I see a premium tank shooting a stock tech tree tank they're on my list to be ... "removed" >l:(
No, they are just rubish. First german HT what is really nice is Tiger 2
I played WoT closed Alpha (whenever that was) to 2014-2015. This game has changed a lot and I prefer the simpler times lol
Agree it peaked at 2015-2016 then I stopped playing
Even tho many people don`t like it, personally, VK3601 is my fav tier 6. liked it so much, i went and looked for scale model of it.
it was the best medium tier 6. rip.
I dont even play world of tanks and ive been watching your channel for over five years. I love your videos. You are one of the best youtubers on the platform. Keep up the great work!
This commentary and the game with the replay is STELLAR!
we had similar history. I also jumped from EVE-online to WoT. Althought in EVE i was never trully dedicated, too hardcore for my taste
care to elaborate? i have been interested in eve online but never got a chance to play it.
@@Todsor it was simply too demanding in all aspects. We would do tower attacks as factions (clans) and this required like 4-5 hours of continuous gameplay to coordinate. You couldn't basically just log in play for 20-30 minutes then log out. Let alone other gameplay aspects that were already too hard. If you can invest so much, sure go ahead. Idk how much gameplay has changed since then.
@@brucedeo1981 Thanks, i guess i will just stick to WoT for now. 4-5 hours? holy moly. I thought Dota was too time consuming with matches lasting for 50 min on average.
I may as well add in the comments. When I used to watch the History channel they had a show called greatest tank battles and the one episode where they introduced the hellcat against the Panthers is what made me want to play world of tanks. I believe that was right around 2013 or 2014. I had been aware of the game but I never made an account and I specifically wanted to get up to the hellcat.
Fortunately for me the very weak I created my account was the week it got nerfed. Actually all TD's had gotten nerfed
Feels bad man :(
TY 🙏🙏 If Excalibur capped, they would have won, or at least spotted the Tiger to possibly get extra hits on it. Enemy team didn't coordinate enough. Easy to say in hindsight though.
problem with the Tiger 1 is it is tiered with tanks that were built a few years later to kill Tigers
If you made it a T4 it would be like the historical Tigers, the beast!
Yep same, i think it sucks at this tier
I never played the tech tree tiger (the first tank I went for in the game was actually the T71, the tank that would be renamed the T71 DA), but I did get the Heavy Tank VI, the Japanese tiger, for free and even though the armor isn’t special even in tier 6, you have HP and view range
Tiger had quite a bad reputation in the old days, which I think was undeserved. It had 20% more HP and DPM than T29 and IS, which people overlooked. Maybe it comes down to preffered playstyle, but I had the best score out of those three in Tiger by substantial margin.
It doesn't have good armor. It's gun is meh and only becomes reliable with gold rounds. It's only good at its own tier.
@@3starperfectdeer233 meh gun? No tier 7 heavy has better gun than Tiger. IS maybe if we talk specifically about close combat city maps, that's about it.
First two tech tree tanks I got was the Panther and Tiger. I still play them.
Wow another high quality video loving the wonderful content coming from this channel
On WorldofTanks console the Tiger 131 is a tier 7 tank with preferential match making which is nice
Shout out to the arty. Without the chunk he took and the tracking done to let you hit the Excaliber, it was a loss.
There and Back Again- A QuickyBaby's Tiger 131 tale
7:50 The box tank has a 130mm gun in reality. There's a funny video of jingles comparing the box tank's gun to that of the is-7 many years ago and he just chuckles away at how overpowered the box tank was to have such a gun.
I've been playing over 10 years. Still remember the Tiger stock being a terrible grind.
I remember when the japanese premium Tiger came out and was on a discount. I bought it and had a mission: Making it the ultimative anime/weeb Tank, getting overly colourful camo, all female crew, etc.
Once I tried a round of clan-wars as a mercinary (is it called that?), where I joined a random clan for a single battle. They allowed me playing it and it payed off.
The macth ended in a 2 vs 5, my mate got sniped and I shot down the last enemy light tank. The rest of the enemy where a KV-2, Churchill, O-I and a tankdestroyer wich I can´t recall wich one it was.
In the end: I used my maxed view range, every little bit of cover and camo to pick them off one by one, while keep changing positions and laying ambushes.
Never had that kind of feeling of beeing a force of nature in any other Tank. That round could had been a propaganda piece for the "invincible" Tiger tank.......if it was cursed from the horendous camo alone XD
Tier 7 Tiger is my favorite and most played tank :)
Sometimes i look at my service record and wonder how the tiger is STILL my most played vehicle
Ditto. Literally thousands of games more than my next most played tank, and I have no real recall of playing that many games.
You could also go platoon with tier 1 and 10 in the old days😂
With the Tier I getting teamkilled right from the start in most cases... Yea I remember just too well xD
I put my quakybaby commander on my German heavy tank crew, and Lowe ^^
I really enjoy the quotes :] Although I am going for the other heavies, Tiger-P and so on...
Love your channel man.. you need to know that !
for CS:GO the best channel for gameplay and tactics is WarOwl
for world of tanks you are the man :]
The Tiger at tier-7 is a beast with that gun, if you know how to use it.
Tiger 131... My most XP in a single game is in this tank. Really fun to play...
And not to forget to mention "back in the daaaays" TDs wont lose camouflage when shooting - I miss that times (I know, E25 is still capable of it and I enjoy it)
I guess playing the 131 feels like what most of us were expecting from the usual tiger 1... until they got it (and met a hull down T29 eventually).
Invisible Excalibur spotted everyone approaching his cap for SU and Ji-Ro? Hmmmm
After 15 years of WOT I finally unlocked the tiger I LOL. I've been neither focused nor prolific LOL.
The Tiger 131 is one of my personal favorite tanks. I have only run it 5 time but I have a 100% victory rate with it. Haven't run it since, don't want to jinx that 100%.
Red1_4REAL lore: T-34-85 from the training bootcamp is what got me to play the game.
Brown Tiger . . wot a movie - bring out your popcorn - folks !
So you played an op tank and still almost lost and had to be carried by Jackson. Sounds like super fun to me.
11:43 The tank captured after having it's turret stuck gets shot at the same place a second time. If only the German had a repair kit like qb
The tier 6 tigers are really good both 131 and heavytank6. I do enjoy the mirny gift king tiger more than the tier 6 tigers.
I love 131, one of my most enjoyable tanks.
I currently have approximately 3400 bonds on my way to 5000 and a Tiger 131.
I got the Tiger P before I got the Tiger 1 (I'm a front line kind of heavy tank player), and I was hesitant to try the Tiger 1 from looking at the armor. Nowadays, Tiger 1 is the only tank I can *regularly* get up into the 95% for damage (i.e. threshold for three marks of excellence), and is the only tank I have three marks on. Thanks to the Tiger 1, I realized that I shouldn't try to make the tank fit my playstyle, rather I should adjust my playstyle to fit the tank.
Edit: yes, I know the video has Tiger 131, not Tiger 1.
i got the tiger P also first:D
Tiger P was a beast long time ago!
Japanese call them onsen. also thermal pools , hot springs.
When is the next Best moments video gonna be released QB?
I feel like German tanks are the reason a lot of ppl get interested in tanks , I’m guilty too 😂
"Nothing feels like a TIGER" - That's what she said.
I’d call them hot springs or volcanic pools
I may sound crazy but WOT should introduce Tiger Tank as Tier X. Its a dream tank of most of us..
How to get Tiger 131?
7:48 130mm gun
I miss the days when a tier 2 tank would spawn into a tier 6 or 7 game.
like the irl one your turret got knocked out 11:43
Day 2 of asking for an IS-4 Masterclass. Love the vid!
Oh, a punching bag everytime except in -2 matchmaking?
Ah it's the 131; -1 mm then
It's nice that everyone thinks that the tiger tank is tier 7, but in reality it is tier 6 and always has been because its full name is Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger and the Roman numeral 6 is not a joke.
What do you mean when you say that bushes aren't as useful for heavy tanks because of the way that they scale?
It is a close game. I would compliment enemy team as well as a Worthy Opponent.
Ju Nu feels totally tigery 😂😂😂
Great game. The game was better back in "The day". Graphics not great, less options and ways to tweak tanks, Gold rounds where Special, MM was all over the place, NO mods or extras. BUT people where less toxic, a lot more teamwork was required, ALL chat was fun, Tactics where a big part of winning. NO EBR's ! to make map seem so small. Though Grinding was HORRIBLE. Great game, glad to see you bring the Tiger out of it's NEST and play it, not it's DEN 🤣. Great Game QB and Rock on Tankers 😎🤘
Tier six should be Tiger 1 s tier.. I remember those old rounds when Tiger was King 🤴...
can replay manager play older replays now? have bunch of them where I had to use another program because the website did not have the "engine" to show those replays..like when yo u dominated with your t5 kv2 and derped all those pesky tier 3's
I just grinded my first Tiger 1, in the first game In I got 6 kills and soaked up a ton of damage.
Such a fun tank. I'm looking forward to hating it/myself once I go up against T8 tanks. 😂
same story for , on how i catch up with WOT
Personally I use the 88mm on the VK36.01. Can you explain why you use the konish
Back in the day the soviet tanks ruled, but like you I went German, Ferdi my fav shame they nurf it
yo QB exactly the same thing, it wasnt eve, but still got into the beta, missed the 1k battles by 4, literally 4, ahhhhhhh, but still
The Tiger is my favorite tank in the game
Which of the 3 Tigers ingame do you think is best?
Type 3 Ju-Nu
Feels like a Tiger
Tiger 1 was a massive disappointment in the early days of WOT. The issue with it was it was a 1941 tank tier matched with 1945 tanks designed to beat it. That meant it's "amazing armor" was outclassed by nearly everything being thrown at it. 76mm guns struggled, but 90s went right through. And guess what, everything tier for tier was 90mm.
Add in the issues with transmissions, ammo racks, and fires and the tank was just okay. Everyone that knew anything about tank history knew the Tiger was massively underpowered for where it got tiered at. It's still a bit of a glass cannon heavy and that's not fun.
But that's why 131 and HT6 are so much better. They are where the Tiger should be in the tech tree and the armor feels useful tier for tier. The gun is still surprisingly good vs Tier 8s as well which is what you want. I love my 131.
PS. I miss historical battles. Tiger 1s vs T-34s and KVs, but withe fewer numbers was where it was at. Tiger felt like it was a Tiger, but it also struggled with rate of fire getting outnumbers.
doesnt the SU-100Y have a 130mm Naval gun tho?
Tiger 131 should be a British premium though, IMO...
4:13 Wait, what? Shot thru wreck. Or was it non hitbox area, like a machinegun or so.
Great battle. Is the Japanese Tiger the twin of the Tiger 131?
i am not surprised at all that you play(ed) Eve Online.
I did the same exact thing.
Can anyone tell me what the "31" next to QB's tank icon on the team list means ?? only half of the players seem have one. I have been wondering for a while
good story bro :)
I like the tiger dont get me wrong, but the vk 36 is a whole other beast, its absolutely disgusting at tier 6.
Tier 6 or below you just shred everything, its quite a chonker, so you put a turbo and ram someone for a couple hundred, shred them with insane dpm.
I have taken a long break from WOT so I'm not up on the latest strategies. Why is QB using small repair and med kits?
to feel like a real TIGER, I went to play WarThunder
armor feels much much better, but CAS is so annoying XD
Quicky can you do i video about every kv in the game and till us about them😢
How can I send a replay to quickbaby?
would u rather spend bonds to acquire tiger 131 or would u rather drive the tech tree tiger 1?
Playing :
- Tiger 131 at 6 tier 😄
- Tiger at 7 tier 😐
- Tiger II at 8tier💀
is HT #6 Japanese tank better or only different?
W now no one can say stupid "first" haha
Love u qb ❤❤❤
Ye, box tank can be scary sometimes :) By the way QB have u seen my new dmg record 10k battle in BZ-167 is on wotreplay. Never expected to do 10k in a t8 but i guess it happens :)
Imagine Tier VII premium Tiger....
tiger, the t7 should be as is and just drop to t5 :P