Someone gave me this set as a Christmas gift, and all I have to say is this. The power of new-age compels you, the power of new-age compels you, the power of new-age compels you.
Zeta is the exact reason I love mastermind creations, even with their bruticus, they don't try to lean purely into accuracy. They know when something works and doesn't and above all they prioritize a good play experience and transformation not just paint and shelf display appearance. Btw I love the current content. Keep it up
"Third party helps fill in the gaps" is funny because hasbro filled in a lot of those gaps with the wfc line and legacy line. Reminds me of how many people customized the titans return galvatron and seige optimus to be g1 accurate only for hasbro to make g1 accurate optimus and galvatron later down the road
If a figure is too small, any attempt to make them overly complicated can backfire. Sometimes they get it right - but... most of the time they don't ;)
This entire set seems like it's described as: "Micro-Masterpiece was a goddamn mistake." Like, Silver Arrow's messed up spaghetti backpack looked like it was intended to be a third "turret mode" like Scattershot.
This was an excellent video. I’m super happy to see you back. On the part discussing complicated transformations, I liked that you brought up mpm Blackout. I was able to pick him up brand new for 60 usd, and I’m smitten with him. The most surprising thing about him is that I think the transformation is great. It’s really intuitive while being very complex.
I agree, I do collect Movie Masterpieces but I usually end up leaving them on the shelves after transforming them back and forth at least once. With Blackout it's different. I actually look forward to convert him again and again, and although he has a lot of steps they're intuitive and don't feel like a chore at all. I easily memorized them while transforming him for the second time, but it might be due to the fact that I was already accostumed to SS Grindor. Not to mention the excellent plastic quality and the tightness of joints and panels, hope you'll review him as well Doc!
DAMN this is a lot. So glad to have ya back Doc, hope all is going well in the life department! A great video as always and the ending talking about 3P Legends and your current relationship with it is something that definitely needed to be addressed, no matter how bitter sweet. It sucks that these companies are prioritizing accuracy and the profits more than they are the fun factor that all collectibles and ESPECIALLY legends should be. An accurate representation is all well and good but if it's a nightmare in every other aspect (and isn't really even that accurate to begin with) then what's the point? These are toys at the end of the day. It's saddening to see them go in this direction but as you said hopefully companies like IF will remain true to the love, passion, and ingenuity they've had all this time, and above all else I hope they and others can provide you with the good kind of legends that you have that contagious love and appreciation for, even if not as frequently. Looking forward to the next more positive reviews, they're always fun and you deserve it after the last figures and everything you've had going on this last while. Cheers!
I really liked your take at the end. I started with Newage’s Soundwave and fell in love with the legends scale releases. I managed to get a couple other NA releases afterwards but at one point the prices for them got out of hand. Like, I can find a MP style Grimlock for what some places are asking for Ymir, not to mention 4th party takes on NA designs. Of course, space and room are different for many people which may make what I said moot, but then the “fun” aspect also came into play when I got Magic Squares Legend Nemesis Prime 2.0. The transformation on that thing put such a sour taste in my mouth that it was the last legends scale 3P figure I got. Now i’m back to sticking with core class and minicons.
Thank you so much for the briefer on the Zeta/Toyworld situation. Being someone not too big into third party other than MMC, it's good to hear that Zeta is probably best avoiding in the long run, due to how just reviews of the toys don't help for unreleased ones, and how it can be such a mixed bag
40:58 ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE END W LETS GO! Anyway so far this is one of your best videos yet, also probably one of the longest toy reviews I have ever seen someone make.
Honestly, I wasn't even *thinking* about getting this figure (I prefer main line anyway, MP-style figures just ain't my thing) so I'm mainly here to crack jokes and understand references. And by Jove, the jokes are great, and the references are grander. 10/10. Will watch again.
Like you said, "fandom conscious opinion is a discussion," I may not agree that S.S. Bumblebee Soundwave is a bad alternate mode, but I can understand if others don't like it. For right now, I am going to stick with figures or characters I like from HasTak, but I am considering something from the ancient Japanese inspired Legends class bots from Iron Factory. Best of luck you insane Australian! Can't wait for more reviews from you, and retrospects on what's influencing designers!
@@DrLockdownim just kidding Doc, twas just a joke sir. I can't imagine the time and effort you put into this. I thouroughly enjoyed it. Great video dude. Well worth the wait. You deserve a vacation to some far flung location after that epic adventure. ✌️👍👍
@@DrLockdown maybe your next review can be the Legacy Armada Prime. The guy that buys stolen goods reviewed it earlier. I can't wait till I can buy one like the rest of the world in 4 or 5 months. Guy should be ashamed of himself. Pretty pathetic. Just for a few clicks. 😒
This is an hour and half of a man raging his ass off at a shitty toy and making the funniest thing I've seen in a while, amazing work Dr.lockdown Edit: also I'm sorry You cant truly enjoy legends anymore, hopefully you can find a new calling in the collecting world, and I cant wait to see how that will lead you.
I believe this was my first time seeing a video by your channel. I was referred to your review after watching Tydirium Hanger's review on this combiner team. loved your review! thank you so much for putting the time and attention into this video. I learned so much about the history and relationships between 3p players, their aftermarket kit offerings, why the same figure by multiple 3p were being released was NEVER a coincidence but still terribly frustrating for collectors.... and most of all: the 3p vs KO (when 3p is KO / when 3p is not KO) I am a mainline collector mainly because i have always seen the rest as KO - but after waiting 30 years for the Studio Cell and Haslab Unicron to arrive after always being a childhood fantasy I realized my perspective was wrong and needed more background and attention. i look forward to watching more current reviews on your channel and future reviews as well. thank you!
This honestly makes me appreciate my EXTREMELY limited delves into 3P Legends all the more - Newage Prime and Iron Factory Grimlock's biggest flaws are nowhere near as bad as this set's smallest ones, from what I can understand. ...feel like I should do more, but uh...that's a trap I don't know if I'm ready to delve into
I didn’t know about the history of Zeta Toys and I bought the “Dark Side Superitron” figure set because it was relatively cheap compared to its size… It’s basically Superion in Nemesis Prime colors-which makes it look really nice. Too bad the arm rail kibble is even more of a problem on the full size version than it is on the mini version. Also, the thumb articulation is terrible-making getting it to wrap its hands around the cannon tough. I’m still wondering why they went whole hog on partsforming for the torso of the combined mode but didn’t think to take advantage of it for the backpacks-it would have helped eliminate the need for rails that inhibit articulation. It’s definitely a shelf piece-combine it, get it into a pose, and _never_ touch it again! One thing I did appreciate was that it came with little grip strips for the combined mode feet-makes it easier to put on glass or smooth wood shelves. Another pro is that the joints are pretty strong but not crazy hard to move. It looks great, but I don’t think it’s a good Transformer set.
I think the points you made about the direction legends is going is why I've been feeling less excited with Magic Square and Newage. Iron Factory still doing their own thing will keep me interested in them.
Newage is doing well for the most part: despite going down the accuracy road, they're balancing brilliant transformations. But magic square...oh dear...
Another excellent video from the good Doctor! Given what you've said and shown here, I'm very glad you've laid it all out so that those of us that weren't aware of Zeta's (and ToyWorld's) mess ups can know about them. As for third party legends, Newage and Magic Square seem to be the safer bets, Newage more so these days, and HasTak has been doing quite well with Legacy and the previous trilogies. I do rather hope that Zeta is just an anomaly here. Your vids are what got me to try out 3rd party Legends collecting, and I'd hate to see it just all go down the drain for the misplaced need of "MP mini". Got to say, after Newage's Redwing (Nacelle when, Newage?), I've been hooked. Even got that "battle worn" Megatron and OP set they put out recently as it was a good and cheaper way to get those two for me, and I've been quite enjoying Agamemnon much to my own shock! After this slog of a video and process, definitely take a good break before some lighter content. You deserve it!
19:09 This happened to me on this exact figure but with the tail instead of the nose. It was one of the first figures I handled. I thought it was just me. Guess it's the design.
I got here in the middle of this, so i’ll probably wait until after the premier to watch it but i’m excited! also i just got g1 sandstorm, a holy grail of mine, so that’s cool
I have to admit that it's funny when you bring up Ragnar's transformation, because I got him recently and I think he's a fun desk bot. Either I have a problem or it's like we're different people. Either way, I feel I have to say thank you for your service with how awful these transformations were, and I hope that future Legends releases don't leave you feeling left behind as you currently do. I myself have only a handful of Magic Square figures so I can't say much on my end.
LMFAO, that edit at the end covering the Nazi Propaganda figure made me laugh hard. The “Because fascism is the future” is what did it the most for me. Side note: I noticed at 1:10:32 the kitzconcept God of Flame figure which made me wonder: Were you able to handle it and if so, did the plastic quality get any better compared to the company’s previous releases?
It's my friends copy. He loves it, but I think it's rubbish. Cool aesthetic, but the plastic stinks and the articulation is really lacking. Probably an amazing toy to someone who hasn't handled a transformer in their life, but transformers fans don't need it.
I'm torn on yukikaze. Even months later, I can't decide between underwhelming and bad. And I can't speak for suiken. It really depends on how he is in hand.
If Hasbro ever does a new Superion with a skeleton, I wonder if the skeleton will form a portion of the concord allowing for the alt-mode to be enormous (as a jumbo jet should be) while allowing the robot mode to be voyager scale and lessening the amount of kibble Silverbolt will inevitably have to lug around. I’d like to see someone try that either way
@@DrLockdown maybe. I wouldn’t buy it myself since I have the CW figure, but I can’t see how else Hasbro would manage including a skeleton in a mainline figure. I don’t think they would just blatantly include a skeleton like in this figure, and they need a skeleton to meet the cartoon accurate design for Superion. Would it be alt-mode partsforming on the level of ER Cliffjumper, yes, but that hasn’t stopped them before.
Whatever the size is, they could just make superion a commander. Have him be a leader that turns into a torso, then include combined bits like the head, hands and feet. Think classic 3P combiner system
28:42 Ironically, *this* area is where sliding rails would have made more sense, since the linkages only exsist to keep the ends of the jet spaced out in alt mode. Since they tab into other parts in both modes, there's no reason for the extended parts count. Probably why the legs on the TR Blitzwing/Megatron mould are *also* actually in sliding rails, but in that case it's just to simplify the way the lower legs need to shift aside. When you go from jet/tank to bot mode, the knee actually gets pushed by the sculpting of the leg into place, which is why I never realized this for years.
I wish I had seen this review months ago. My silver arrow arrived broken. There is a problem with all figures. I don't even want to fix these figures. I left it in combiner mode and gave up. Thank you for your review.
@@DrLockdown Everything is fine 😀. I've only seen positive reviews of these figures. Your review is the first one that accurately describes these figures. The seller returned some of the money for the broken parts, so I got it cheaper and I still feel ripped off. You have great content and my subscription Regards and have a nice week.
I was half expecting you to complain about the lack of tabs on Fireflights wing tips, im glad you didnt the F-4 phantoms wing tips are angled upwards anyways 😂
jokes aside, that.. German canon zeta is doing a robot from would be the best alt mode for a Megatron. Sensitive for sure but someone made a 3D animation of a Dora canon Megatron and it was fantastic
okay, just realized something your point about how pinning flyfire wouldnt fix that issue, when in reality, it may HAVE Let me explain. from what i saw, Flyfire was painted almost entirely, including that joint. in theory that joint and plastic could have worked with the joint if it wasnt painted, but the joint was designed without the paint in mind, so when it was done with the paint, the tolerances became far more tight, causing extra stress, and litterally causing it to die. i imagine that those parts were intended to be molded in red, but was decided it'd be cheaper to paint them red then have them be molded in red for some reason.
Actually, this brings up a good question, as someone who agrees with your preference in third-party legends scale figures, who are the companies you would actually recommended checking out? Or if there are none that are 100% safe bets, what are some specific figures you’d recommend?
I find it funny that on my first video - the Menasor Month compilation - you were surprised that I chose a beefy video to start with…then release this and the WFC ranking 😂
My guy, you included my favorite track from Xenoblade Chronicles 3! (around 3:18, Ouroboros Awakens). Plus all the other references were choice. Subbed!
Fantastic video, I have not heard many good things about this figure and it's interesting seeing an analytical and earnest look into it. I will admit I did agree with most of your points, in particular about Legends figures prioritising play. I'm not really one for 'toon accuracy, frankly I couldn't give less of a damn, but I appreciate it when it's done right without flopping every other aspect of the toy. It really DOES make it feel more worthwhile to just get a damn nontransforming figure instead. At least those RED figures or ULTIMATES! ones have play value. I did find the criticism about CW Menasor pretty funny - I like the figure personally and I appreciate it trying to keep the combination self contained without relying on a skeleton, but I still wholeheartedly understand why people don't like it. In the end as much as I do not like 'toon Menasor at ALL and dislike the usage of a skeleton, I do fully understand the ease it gives on bot stability whether individual or combined. That and I think the Legacy figures look better because of that leeway. (Love Motormaster getting his cab footsies back.) Thanks for the video!
This review actually left me wanting a new CHUG Superion. It would be ineteresting to see their attempt at a combiner after Menasor, and, hey, even after core Dinoki... *ahem* Volcanicus
@@DrLockdown Spindly legs aside, I think it and the Hot Spot body are CW's best, and not by default. I still want King Poseidon and Megatronia, just to experience them in designs that appeal to me more
Totally get finding Alpha Bravo to be a more interesting design, but I personally really enjoy Slingshot as a character, particularly in War Dawn as far as media appearances are concerned. My personal solution is just have both around and whichever one is nearest during a battle becomes a Superion limb
I’m actually using Slingshot as part of a story I’m writing about Strika and Obsidian basically assembling the Autobot equivalent to the Suicide Squad known as the “Autobot Injustice Division”. Aside from him, the team is composed of- Pharma (IDW1) Flame (Marvel) Nightra (RID 2015) Downshift (Cybertron) Armorhide (2007 movie toyline) Filch (RID 2015; she’s an Autobot in my take)
Actually having scramble city combiner teams having more than 5 member is a clever idea were some member could open some cool ideas like some full artillery bruticus combination or a protectobot team based on water rescue team with boats
@@jotacatalan on a tactical level I just think it’s good to have a backup, plus of course opens up new team dynamics outside of the main five: instead of Alpha Bravo or Offroad being a replacement, they can hang out with Slingshot and Wildrider Plus if you go by the Masters of Mayhem depiction of Alpha Bravo and Offroad where they fall in love with each other, think of the drama between these two rival combiner teams Lmfao. Romeo and Juliet with gestalt robots is what I’m saying
Awesome review lockdown :D I’m very glad I found you and not buying this figure. Though I do wonder if the employees were mistreated leading them to make this new company or not. Sry if I’m wrong since this is my fifth time trying to finish the video since I started it a while ago. I don’t think anyone tried to make a bad figure but these guys didn’t know what they were trying to make leading to this mess /: my knock off combined wars superion is better than this and my silver bolt split in half.
I'm pretty sure Hasbro not doing an actual Harrier and Phantom for Shatter and Blitzwing has less to do with them not wanting to try and figure out how to transform them adequately, and more to do with them not wanting to pay Boeing for the right to make toys of them. They've been doing that since they slapped an F-14 cockpit on an F-15 fuselage to make the Classics Seeker way back in 06. The Harrier in particular is probably a licensing nightmare, since the original design came out of Hawker and later BAe, and was iterated on by McDonnell, which then became a part of Boeing.
Actually they already have the license for those jets. In fact, shatter is a licensed Yak: a plane from the same manufacturer as the sea harrier. They did pay the license, but they chose a completely different vehicle. The only reason that could account for that is engineering
@@DrLockdown Neither Hawker nor BAe had anything to do with the Yak-38, it was made by Yakovlev, a Soviet aircraft design bureau that lasted until 2006, when it was merged with all the other former big names in Russian aviation. The Yak-38 was more or less a Soviet knockoff of the British design (they did that a lot, see the Tu-144 vs. Concorde and the Buran vs. the STS). Shatter isn't a 1-1 translation of the Yak-38 either, but a hybrid of it, and the Harrier, and some other generic fighter jet elements. The general proportions of the jet and the the forward, high-mounted wings are more akin to the Harrier (The Forger is a very long jet, and the wings are mounted further back and more equatorial), while the arrangement of the engines and the secondary VTOL jets are more akin to the Forger, though this is actually an area where the on-screen model is more akin to the Soviet plane than the British one. Shatter is clearly depicted with an engine on each shoulder, but the Harrier only had one engine, mounted in the middle with an intake nozzle on either side of the nose. Other things like the canards aren't present on either jet, and bizarrely, the vertical stabiliser looks more like a heavily reduced version of the one on the Tornado, a completely separate and unrelated plane. The British never had a fighter jet called a Yak, most military aircraft made here were either given meaningful names (the Harrier was named for a hovering bird of prey, the Spitfire spat fire, the Meteor was fast as hell because it was the first jet we made), menacing names (Vampire, Venom, Hunter, Jaguar, etc) or storm-related names (Hurricane, Typhoon, Tempest, Lightning, Tornado, Typhoon again, Tempest again). Naming one after a species of mountain cattle wasn't going to be on the board.
"takes off like a Concorde in a tailwind" I almost have a degree in aeronautics and I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. a tailwind makes taking off harder by increasing the necessary ground speed before rotation and extending the takeoff roll. is the Raiden set getting in the air quickly or is it taking its sweet time?
Ah. Oops. It was an adaption of an older saying, where a tailwind comes from behind and makes marathon runners go faster. Guess it doesn't translate into a silverbolt pun.
I WARNED YOU!!! I WARNED EVERYONE!!!
But we didnt listen.
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Someone gave me this set as a Christmas gift, and all I have to say is this. The power of new-age compels you, the power of new-age compels you, the power of new-age compels you.
Amen.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is that a reference to something
I dunno... I just said it for shits 'n'giggles.
Gits and shiggles
nah, i gen prefer magic square and zeta to new age. new age arent bad by any means, but i want mini-masterpeice to feel like a mini *masterpeice*
Zeta is the exact reason I love mastermind creations, even with their bruticus, they don't try to lean purely into accuracy. They know when something works and doesn't and above all they prioritize a good play experience and transformation not just paint and shelf display appearance. Btw I love the current content. Keep it up
“I will send ya to Jesus!” Not what I was expecting to hear the funny larp man say.
Is funny larp man his canonical name?
Vaughan vandurghbarr
Hope he appears more.
Eventually.
Timestamp please?
A trick to spraying yellow paint is to prime the part with white primer before you spray the yellow
That and a few coats at a time.
Zeta didn't bother though
The Lazy Eyebrow can do it better than Zeta ever will. Trust me
I love that it took the combined power of Doc, PE, TJ’s die cast sign, and Sam Cap to deconstruct this figure’s failings
I’ve seen you on tjomegas q&a lmao
@@kingdareth09 ok
First we had jobby with bold forms gladius
Then we had Prespective end with toy world constructer
Now we have Dr. Lockdown with zeta superion
And now we got Paik with fanstoys superion
@@alectech5435 another has fallen
@@gleamingcolt The more 3p evolves the more it gets frustrating
So there will be more of these in the future
@@alectech5435 if Emgo joins the batch, it's all over.
"Third party helps fill in the gaps" is funny because hasbro filled in a lot of those gaps with the wfc line and legacy line. Reminds me of how many people customized the titans return galvatron and seige optimus to be g1 accurate only for hasbro to make g1 accurate optimus and galvatron later down the road
That's the case now, but back in 3P's heyday thats how they were making bank
Hearing the intro music and disclaimer after 2 months made me so happy. So glad to see you back!
Glad to be back. I've missed this
If a figure is too small, any attempt to make them overly complicated can backfire. Sometimes they get it right - but... most of the time they don't ;)
I have never in my life watched a toy review that was this long.
Under rated channel, and great content!
This entire set seems like it's described as:
"Micro-Masterpiece was a goddamn mistake."
Like, Silver Arrow's messed up spaghetti backpack looked like it was intended to be a third "turret mode" like Scattershot.
This was an excellent video. I’m super happy to see you back.
On the part discussing complicated transformations, I liked that you brought up mpm Blackout. I was able to pick him up brand new for 60 usd, and I’m smitten with him. The most surprising thing about him is that I think the transformation is great. It’s really intuitive while being very complex.
Lucky. They never go on sale here
@@DrLockdown yeah, I have no clue how I got that lucky
Actually MPM quite commonly goes on special in the states, from what I hear. There was a big one when Starscream went for $40.
Not in Australia sadly
I agree, I do collect Movie Masterpieces but I usually end up leaving them on the shelves after transforming them back and forth at least once.
With Blackout it's different. I actually look forward to convert him again and again, and although he has a lot of steps they're intuitive and don't feel like a chore at all.
I easily memorized them while transforming him for the second time, but it might be due to the fact that I was already accostumed to SS Grindor.
Not to mention the excellent plastic quality and the tightness of joints and panels, hope you'll review him as well Doc!
There was sort of an idea for a script, but I just don't know if I'll have the time.
Weirdly enough, seeing Dr. LD have a mental breakdown for an hour and half straight is entertaining.
Glad you finally got this off your chest!
That tab on Silver Arrow's backpack is working ten million times harder than the designers that put it there
Haha...true...
DAMN this is a lot. So glad to have ya back Doc, hope all is going well in the life department! A great video as always and the ending talking about 3P Legends and your current relationship with it is something that definitely needed to be addressed, no matter how bitter sweet. It sucks that these companies are prioritizing accuracy and the profits more than they are the fun factor that all collectibles and ESPECIALLY legends should be. An accurate representation is all well and good but if it's a nightmare in every other aspect (and isn't really even that accurate to begin with) then what's the point? These are toys at the end of the day. It's saddening to see them go in this direction but as you said hopefully companies like IF will remain true to the love, passion, and ingenuity they've had all this time, and above all else I hope they and others can provide you with the good kind of legends that you have that contagious love and appreciation for, even if not as frequently. Looking forward to the next more positive reviews, they're always fun and you deserve it after the last figures and everything you've had going on this last while. Cheers!
It was an honor and a privilege to be part of this stream. I hope you're doing better everyday good chap 🤟
I really liked your take at the end. I started with Newage’s Soundwave and fell in love with the legends scale releases. I managed to get a couple other NA releases afterwards but at one point the prices for them got out of hand. Like, I can find a MP style Grimlock for what some places are asking for Ymir, not to mention 4th party takes on NA designs. Of course, space and room are different for many people which may make what I said moot, but then the “fun” aspect also came into play when I got Magic Squares Legend Nemesis Prime 2.0. The transformation on that thing put such a sour taste in my mouth that it was the last legends scale 3P figure I got. Now i’m back to sticking with core class and minicons.
Fair call. Core class has been doing insanely good stuff at the moment
Was not expecting the Steven He reference, but it was certainly appreciated!
Thank you so much for the briefer on the Zeta/Toyworld situation. Being someone not too big into third party other than MMC, it's good to hear that Zeta is probably best avoiding in the long run, due to how just reviews of the toys don't help for unreleased ones, and how it can be such a mixed bag
Do you realize what cosmos vehicle mode is based on. look it up You'll never see him the same way again.
1:08:25 I was expecting "Firefly!?" "We have lightning bug"
40:58 ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE END W LETS GO!
Anyway so far this is one of your best videos yet, also probably one of the longest toy reviews I have ever seen someone make.
Thanks mate. Actually recorded the two cameos back to back, since if was supposed to build off the last one.
Honestly, I wasn't even *thinking* about getting this figure (I prefer main line anyway, MP-style figures just ain't my thing) so I'm mainly here to crack jokes and understand references.
And by Jove, the jokes are great, and the references are grander. 10/10. Will watch again.
“We stan pizza cheese, we don’t stan mustard.”
-Dr. Lockdown, 2023
Mustard sucks
Like you said, "fandom conscious opinion is a discussion," I may not agree that S.S. Bumblebee Soundwave is a bad alternate mode, but I can understand if others don't like it. For right now, I am going to stick with figures or characters I like from HasTak, but I am considering something from the ancient Japanese inspired Legends class bots from Iron Factory.
Best of luck you insane Australian! Can't wait for more reviews from you, and retrospects on what's influencing designers!
I'm so excited. This has been years in the making! 🎉
Nah maybe six months. Haven't had him that long :p
@@DrLockdownim just kidding Doc, twas just a joke sir. I can't imagine the time and effort you put into this. I thouroughly enjoyed it. Great video dude. Well worth the wait. You deserve a vacation to some far flung location after that epic adventure. ✌️👍👍
Nah I've taken enough time off before this. I'm itching to work on some more projects, albeit smaller ones
@@DrLockdown you gotta make time for yourself brother. You've earned it. ✌️
@@DrLockdown maybe your next review can be the Legacy Armada Prime. The guy that buys stolen goods reviewed it earlier. I can't wait till I can buy one like the rest of the world in 4 or 5 months. Guy should be ashamed of himself. Pretty pathetic. Just for a few clicks. 😒
welp, there goes my ears. also perspective end making a cameo and throwing heat was definitely hilarious
Its Good to see Dr. Lockdown again
great to see you back man!
Love the PerspectiveEnd cameo
Legit made me laugh 😆
Agreed. I think that was pure comedy gold.
The best fate we can hope for this thing is that it meets Overlord from the POTP miniseries
This is an hour and half of a man raging his ass off at a shitty toy and making the funniest thing I've seen in a while, amazing work Dr.lockdown
Edit: also I'm sorry You cant truly enjoy legends anymore, hopefully you can find a new calling in the collecting world, and I cant wait to see how that will lead you.
I believe this was my first time seeing a video by your channel. I was referred to your review after watching Tydirium Hanger's review on this combiner team. loved your review! thank you so much for putting the time and attention into this video. I learned so much about the history and relationships between 3p players, their aftermarket kit offerings, why the same figure by multiple 3p were being released was NEVER a coincidence but still terribly frustrating for collectors.... and most of all: the 3p vs KO (when 3p is KO / when 3p is not KO) I am a mainline collector mainly because i have always seen the rest as KO - but after waiting 30 years for the Studio Cell and Haslab Unicron to arrive after always being a childhood fantasy I realized my perspective was wrong and needed more background and attention. i look forward to watching more current reviews on your channel and future reviews as well. thank you!
Happy to see the doc back
This honestly makes me appreciate my EXTREMELY limited delves into 3P Legends all the more - Newage Prime and Iron Factory Grimlock's biggest flaws are nowhere near as bad as this set's smallest ones, from what I can understand.
...feel like I should do more, but uh...that's a trap I don't know if I'm ready to delve into
Newage and iron factory are fine. MFT too. It's more magic square, zeta and other newer companies that present the concerns.
1:08:16 love the Steven he reverence
I didn’t know about the history of Zeta Toys and I bought the “Dark Side Superitron” figure set because it was relatively cheap compared to its size…
It’s basically Superion in Nemesis Prime colors-which makes it look really nice. Too bad the arm rail kibble is even more of a problem on the full size version than it is on the mini version. Also, the thumb articulation is terrible-making getting it to wrap its hands around the cannon tough.
I’m still wondering why they went whole hog on partsforming for the torso of the combined mode but didn’t think to take advantage of it for the backpacks-it would have helped eliminate the need for rails that inhibit articulation.
It’s definitely a shelf piece-combine it, get it into a pose, and _never_ touch it again!
One thing I did appreciate was that it came with little grip strips for the combined mode feet-makes it easier to put on glass or smooth wood shelves. Another pro is that the joints are pretty strong but not crazy hard to move.
It looks great, but I don’t think it’s a good Transformer set.
Yeah the mini one also had the grips. Real shame nobody else does it
I think the points you made about the direction legends is going is why I've been feeling less excited with Magic Square and Newage. Iron Factory still doing their own thing will keep me interested in them.
Newage is doing well for the most part: despite going down the accuracy road, they're balancing brilliant transformations.
But magic square...oh dear...
1:08:34 Vaughn was in such shock that his facial hair tried to take refuge in his food orifice
So glad to see 3p Legends class figures get shit on instead of getting Blown so hard the reviewer would work just as well as a Dyson on EVERY surface.
I'm not shitting for the sake of shitting. I still love 3P legends.
It's just, this is not a good toy.
Another excellent video from the good Doctor! Given what you've said and shown here, I'm very glad you've laid it all out so that those of us that weren't aware of Zeta's (and ToyWorld's) mess ups can know about them.
As for third party legends, Newage and Magic Square seem to be the safer bets, Newage more so these days, and HasTak has been doing quite well with Legacy and the previous trilogies. I do rather hope that Zeta is just an anomaly here. Your vids are what got me to try out 3rd party Legends collecting, and I'd hate to see it just all go down the drain for the misplaced need of "MP mini". Got to say, after Newage's Redwing (Nacelle when, Newage?), I've been hooked. Even got that "battle worn" Megatron and OP set they put out recently as it was a good and cheaper way to get those two for me, and I've been quite enjoying Agamemnon much to my own shock!
After this slog of a video and process, definitely take a good break before some lighter content. You deserve it!
19:09 This happened to me on this exact figure but with the tail instead of the nose. It was one of the first figures I handled. I thought it was just me. Guess it's the design.
The perfect antithesis to Magic Square Menasor, even in terms of it being a figure of Menasor's rival.
45:11 for some reason my ER Optimus has the same problem with the head articulation. any suggetions on how to fix
Fraid not. Sorry
Across the board, I completely agree. I have to admit, amazingly, I enjoy your videos, including the length. That is a rare thing.
Thanks mate. Don't set out to make long videos...just kinda happens.
Setting specific lengths seems a bit silly
Also that was a wonderfully heroic moment for Iron Factory Brawl. I now want that figure.
I got here in the middle of this, so i’ll probably wait until after the premier to watch it but i’m excited!
also i just got g1 sandstorm, a holy grail of mine, so that’s cool
Nice. I'm waiting for the leader version next year
Oh this was beautiful.
Glade your back man , and wow .. is that bad , but i saw the DIno king cameo , i cant wait for that day review
I have to admit that it's funny when you bring up Ragnar's transformation, because I got him recently and I think he's a fun desk bot.
Either I have a problem or it's like we're different people.
Either way, I feel I have to say thank you for your service with how awful these transformations were, and I hope that future Legends releases don't leave you feeling left behind as you currently do.
I myself have only a handful of Magic Square figures so I can't say much on my end.
The Z in Zeta Toys stands for... uh... Zliding Rails.
The Q stands for quality
LMFAO, that edit at the end covering the Nazi Propaganda figure made me laugh hard. The “Because fascism is the future” is what did it the most for me.
Side note: I noticed at 1:10:32 the kitzconcept God of Flame figure which made me wonder: Were you able to handle it and if so, did the plastic quality get any better compared to the company’s previous releases?
It's my friends copy. He loves it, but I think it's rubbish. Cool aesthetic, but the plastic stinks and the articulation is really lacking. Probably an amazing toy to someone who hasn't handled a transformer in their life, but transformers fans don't need it.
@@DrLockdownI am also curious, what are your thoughts on the other 2 Trainbots that have been recently released, Yukikaze and Suikan.
Don't have suiken, but yukikaze in the meantime is...the weakest of the bunch. The kibble management ain't good
@@DrLockdown would you call Yukikaze a bad figure by any means though? Also, thoughts on Suiken having mandatory partsforming in the backpack?
I'm torn on yukikaze. Even months later, I can't decide between underwhelming and bad.
And I can't speak for suiken. It really depends on how he is in hand.
PERSPECTIVE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im both hyped and scared of this
Who isnt?
1:12:28 since the aeroal bots are planes, them being larger then the rest can make sense, since the average plane is like what, 5x the size of a car
If Hasbro ever does a new Superion with a skeleton, I wonder if the skeleton will form a portion of the concord allowing for the alt-mode to be enormous (as a jumbo jet should be) while allowing the robot mode to be voyager scale and lessening the amount of kibble Silverbolt will inevitably have to lug around. I’d like to see someone try that either way
I feel that would annoy people
Just a heads up, the Concorde isn't a jumbo jet, that term is used to describe wide-body aircraft, and more specifically the 747 and A380
@@DrLockdown maybe. I wouldn’t buy it myself since I have the CW figure, but I can’t see how else Hasbro would manage including a skeleton in a mainline figure. I don’t think they would just blatantly include a skeleton like in this figure, and they need a skeleton to meet the cartoon accurate design for Superion. Would it be alt-mode partsforming on the level of ER Cliffjumper, yes, but that hasn’t stopped them before.
@@ihatemegatron216 apologies. It should be enormous as a supersonic passenger-carrying commercial airplane should be.
Lol
Whatever the size is, they could just make superion a commander.
Have him be a leader that turns into a torso, then include combined bits like the head, hands and feet.
Think classic 3P combiner system
28:42 Ironically, *this* area is where sliding rails would have made more sense, since the linkages only exsist to keep the ends of the jet spaced out in alt mode. Since they tab into other parts in both modes, there's no reason for the extended parts count.
Probably why the legs on the TR Blitzwing/Megatron mould are *also* actually in sliding rails, but in that case it's just to simplify the way the lower legs need to shift aside. When you go from jet/tank to bot mode, the knee actually gets pushed by the sculpting of the leg into place, which is why I never realized this for years.
Neither the spaghetti nor sliding rails are a good idea. One is a nightmare to convert, the other breaks down over time
40:45 favorite bit
@22:06 holy crap that was spot on
Welcome back good to you again and hope you are doing ok
Doing great and eager to get back into more projects
0:05 commented right away for the algorithm.
YES HE'S BACK!!!
I wish I had seen this review months ago.
My silver arrow arrived broken. There is a problem with all figures. I don't even want to fix these figures. I left it in combiner mode and gave up.
Thank you for your review.
Ah sorry mate. I wish I could've reviewed it months ago. Laptop broke. Needed urgent repairs
@@DrLockdown Everything is fine 😀.
I've only seen positive reviews of these figures.
Your review is the first one that accurately describes these figures.
The seller returned some of the money for the broken parts, so I got it cheaper and I still feel ripped off.
You have great content and my subscription
Regards and have a nice week.
Likewise :D
I think the only other legends scale Superion on the market at this point is the Hasbro Energon set with the old Fansproject Snowman kit
Loved the skits on this video xD
Thanks. They were a blast to film
The plastic for silver arrow is the same color as games workshop resin
Just to compliment their grey earlier
„Toyworld Constructor“
*I hear a Perspective End banging at my Door.*
...funny you should say that...
The „YIPPIIEEEEEEEE!!!!“ Broke me. 😂
I was half expecting you to complain about the lack of tabs on Fireflights wing tips, im glad you didnt
the F-4 phantoms wing tips are angled upwards anyways 😂
The moment you were talking about the die cast I knew perspective was gonna show up
jokes aside, that.. German canon zeta is doing a robot from would be the best alt mode for a Megatron. Sensitive for sure but someone made a 3D animation of a Dora canon Megatron and it was fantastic
10:54 CUSTOM RB HEATWAVE!?! Do you have a video on it?
Not particularly. I made it mostly for myself, not to show off or anything.
@@DrLockdown HOLY COW YOU RESPONDED!!! I mean, um, Alright, well, just know if you did make a video on it, you know you'd make at least 1 view😆😄
Not about views. Just can't be bothered :P
@@DrLockdown Oh, Alright, well, may I just ask anyway? How/ what did you make him out of, like who was the base figure?
POTP inferno. All I used was some shapeways parts and toyhax. Nothing crazy
welcome back doc
1:08:09 Steven He reference?
Correct
okay, just realized something
your point about how pinning flyfire wouldnt fix that issue, when in reality, it may HAVE
Let me explain. from what i saw, Flyfire was painted almost entirely, including that joint. in theory that joint and plastic could have worked with the joint if it wasnt painted, but the joint was designed without the paint in mind, so when it was done with the paint, the tolerances became far more tight, causing extra stress, and litterally causing it to die. i imagine that those parts were intended to be molded in red, but was decided it'd be cheaper to paint them red then have them be molded in red for some reason.
TLDR: pinning it would have worked in theory since it'd have not put as much stress as being literally sized wrong
I’m sure MS will come through. Tho I’d love to see/have a Iron Factory samurai themed set of Aerial Bots.
Samurai Arielbots would go crazy
Ladies and gentlemen, the doc is in!
Fly Fire's head sculpt is so bad that it got the 9 TF2 mercs laughing. ALL 9 OF THEM!
Actually, this brings up a good question, as someone who agrees with your preference in third-party legends scale figures, who are the companies you would actually recommended checking out? Or if there are none that are 100% safe bets, what are some specific figures you’d recommend?
Newage and iron factory
27:30 major editing step up for your channel this is awesome
I find it funny that on my first video - the Menasor Month compilation - you were surprised that I chose a beefy video to start with…then release this and the WFC ranking 😂
My guy, you included my favorite track from Xenoblade Chronicles 3! (around 3:18, Ouroboros Awakens). Plus all the other references were choice. Subbed!
Hehe. Massive Xenoblade fan, though I must admit my favourite is the first game.
What was that trailer @Drlockdown!? I NEED CONEXT HERE
I think he's been watching a bunch of TH-cam Poops.
I do admittedly want Zeta’s Fort Max
Also, mad respect on Classics Astrotrain’s name
Fantastic video, I have not heard many good things about this figure and it's interesting seeing an analytical and earnest look into it.
I will admit I did agree with most of your points, in particular about Legends figures prioritising play. I'm not really one for 'toon accuracy, frankly I couldn't give less of a damn, but I appreciate it when it's done right without flopping every other aspect of the toy. It really DOES make it feel more worthwhile to just get a damn nontransforming figure instead. At least those RED figures or ULTIMATES! ones have play value.
I did find the criticism about CW Menasor pretty funny - I like the figure personally and I appreciate it trying to keep the combination self contained without relying on a skeleton, but I still wholeheartedly understand why people don't like it. In the end as much as I do not like 'toon Menasor at ALL and dislike the usage of a skeleton, I do fully understand the ease it gives on bot stability whether individual or combined. That and I think the Legacy figures look better because of that leeway. (Love Motormaster getting his cab footsies back.)
Thanks for the video!
This review actually left me wanting a new CHUG Superion. It would be ineteresting to see their attempt at a combiner after Menasor, and, hey, even after core Dinoki... *ahem* Volcanicus
They'll probably do one eventually, but the CW one is fantastic for now
@@DrLockdown Spindly legs aside, I think it and the Hot Spot body are CW's best, and not by default. I still want King Poseidon and Megatronia, just to experience them in designs that appeal to me more
Totally get finding Alpha Bravo to be a more interesting design, but I personally really enjoy Slingshot as a character, particularly in War Dawn as far as media appearances are concerned. My personal solution is just have both around and whichever one is nearest during a battle becomes a Superion limb
I’m actually using Slingshot as part of a story I’m writing about Strika and Obsidian basically assembling the Autobot equivalent to the Suicide Squad known as the “Autobot Injustice Division”. Aside from him, the team is composed of-
Pharma (IDW1)
Flame (Marvel)
Nightra (RID 2015)
Downshift (Cybertron)
Armorhide (2007 movie toyline)
Filch (RID 2015; she’s an Autobot in my take)
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho that’s neat
Actually having scramble city combiner teams having more than 5 member is a clever idea were some member could open some cool ideas like some full artillery bruticus combination or a protectobot team based on water rescue team with boats
@@jotacatalan on a tactical level I just think it’s good to have a backup, plus of course opens up new team dynamics outside of the main five: instead of Alpha Bravo or Offroad being a replacement, they can hang out with Slingshot and Wildrider
Plus if you go by the Masters of Mayhem depiction of Alpha Bravo and Offroad where they fall in love with each other, think of the drama between these two rival combiner teams Lmfao.
Romeo and Juliet with gestalt robots is what I’m saying
I wish Alpha Bravo had media apperances. I think he'd be great as a rookie type who idolizes the other aerialbots
Holy shit Dr Lockdown the movie
Probably won't be the last one either
Awesome review lockdown :D I’m very glad I found you and not buying this figure. Though I do wonder if the employees were mistreated leading them to make this new company or not. Sry if I’m wrong since this is my fifth time trying to finish the video since I started it a while ago. I don’t think anyone tried to make a bad figure but these guys didn’t know what they were trying to make leading to this mess /: my knock off combined wars superion is better than this and my silver bolt split in half.
I'm pretty sure Hasbro not doing an actual Harrier and Phantom for Shatter and Blitzwing has less to do with them not wanting to try and figure out how to transform them adequately, and more to do with them not wanting to pay Boeing for the right to make toys of them. They've been doing that since they slapped an F-14 cockpit on an F-15 fuselage to make the Classics Seeker way back in 06. The Harrier in particular is probably a licensing nightmare, since the original design came out of Hawker and later BAe, and was iterated on by McDonnell, which then became a part of Boeing.
Actually they already have the license for those jets. In fact, shatter is a licensed Yak: a plane from the same manufacturer as the sea harrier. They did pay the license, but they chose a completely different vehicle. The only reason that could account for that is engineering
@@DrLockdown Neither Hawker nor BAe had anything to do with the Yak-38, it was made by Yakovlev, a Soviet aircraft design bureau that lasted until 2006, when it was merged with all the other former big names in Russian aviation.
The Yak-38 was more or less a Soviet knockoff of the British design (they did that a lot, see the Tu-144 vs. Concorde and the Buran vs. the STS).
Shatter isn't a 1-1 translation of the Yak-38 either, but a hybrid of it, and the Harrier, and some other generic fighter jet elements. The general proportions of the jet and the the forward, high-mounted wings are more akin to the Harrier (The Forger is a very long jet, and the wings are mounted further back and more equatorial), while the arrangement of the engines and the secondary VTOL jets are more akin to the Forger, though this is actually an area where the on-screen model is more akin to the Soviet plane than the British one. Shatter is clearly depicted with an engine on each shoulder, but the Harrier only had one engine, mounted in the middle with an intake nozzle on either side of the nose.
Other things like the canards aren't present on either jet, and bizarrely, the vertical stabiliser looks more like a heavily reduced version of the one on the Tornado, a completely separate and unrelated plane.
The British never had a fighter jet called a Yak, most military aircraft made here were either given meaningful names (the Harrier was named for a hovering bird of prey, the Spitfire spat fire, the Meteor was fast as hell because it was the first jet we made), menacing names (Vampire, Venom, Hunter, Jaguar, etc) or storm-related names (Hurricane, Typhoon, Tempest, Lightning, Tornado, Typhoon again, Tempest again). Naming one after a species of mountain cattle wasn't going to be on the board.
Doesn't mpg trainbots have clear plastic in most of the figures released?
Yeah, but it's not the shitty stuff you see on figures like SS86 jazz. It's hella durable.
Even the tabs?
Haven't had a single breakage
Maybe The MPG Trainbots could work with CHUG scale,given that Raiden doesnt look as big as MP scale combiners are.
Possibly. Personally I don't even care about scale. I just like the set regardless
6:41
Honestly, I'd recommend Cang Toys Thunderking.
He's easily one of if not THE best Predaking of all time.
It's on the list of eventual wants, but getting every combiner is far too expensive
How is the newage devastator? Any problems because I hope it lives up to my hype since I've been waiting for the toy color version to ship for a while
It's decent. Not amazing, but it's a fun little set
1:08:16 - 1:08:43 The funniest scene in the whole review
Also, 18:58 *gottem*
I have never seen this man being this mad, ever since thunder leader and MP 52 Starscream.
Lol I was probably madder in the thunder leader video. That figure literally drew blood.
God bless you doc-
great review,. I only have one question, where can I get that upgrade kit to turn combiner wars inferno into heatwave ?
Shapeways, paint and reprolabels. It's not an upgrade. It's a custom
"takes off like a Concorde in a tailwind" I almost have a degree in aeronautics and I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. a tailwind makes taking off harder by increasing the necessary ground speed before rotation and extending the takeoff roll. is the Raiden set getting in the air quickly or is it taking its sweet time?
Ah. Oops. It was an adaption of an older saying, where a tailwind comes from behind and makes marathon runners go faster. Guess it doesn't translate into a silverbolt pun.
@@DrLockdown that makes perfect sense. When taking off and landing a headwind is preferable. But when cruising a tailwind is preferable.
Alternate title: Australian man slowly loses his mind for 80 minutes
Honestly, I want to get the small predaking from Cang Toys. It looks so cool!
I think I'm gonna give that one a shot. Can't be much worse than superitron
@@DrLockdown I'll watch that video if you make it