Like it or not, China is going to be in Asia for good. ... Good or bad, counties in Asia have no choice. Western thinking Country like Singapore should think more Chinese.
US's use of coercion on all countries since WW2 and especially its mantra "You are either with us or against us" is intimidating on young nations choosing between trade with China or being friend of USA. The new world order with more than one superpowers could steer towards greater multilateralism and benefiting more emerging countries as compared with an adversarial relationship between US or China. The voices of emerging countries have to be heard.
If LKYSPP does not change the way the select speakers to their Centre soon it will lose her credibility. This School is for distinguished guests who have shown vision or statesmanship.etc2....NOT for prejudiced and racists!!! Or does the management of LKYSPP think anyone can be at this school so long as he has paid or is being paid!???
I live in Australia, I am sorry for this pseudo strategist that can't take responsibility for Australian behaviours. The problem we have with China came because of this kind of man retorics.
To allow its audience to put things in perspective, the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy should declare Alan DuPont’s association with the (infamous) Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) which is partly funded by the Australian Department of Defence and by foreign countries such as the United States, MILITARY CONTRACTORS, as well as defence companies such as Raytheon and Lockheed Martin among others.
A reputable institute like LKYSPP should know the difference between balanced discussion of different views and false balance with one side presenting lies and disinformation. Alan DuPont is not an honest scholar. Please stop inviting guys like him to future discussions. It will hurt the reputation of the Institute.
Singapore should be thankful to Australia for playing the bad cop, willingly or otherwise. The louder they bark at China, the lesser the need for Singapore (and other long time non-ally US partners) to do the same. 饮水要思源。
To the Australian speaker : What does he have to say about the coercions and attacks exerted by Uncle Sam vis a vis its own allies, ripping off trade deals at a whim or stealing mask supplies or other PPE supplies during the covid pandemic. As the world can tell, the Australians are victims to their own aggressive stance towards their biggest customer ? Do Australians think they can also get always with aggressive behavior like the US does on the international scene ? It's time China stands up and puts a stop to all that nonesense. Australia is on notice that this has got to stop or else.
*I was disappointed that there is no push back on Alan Dupont's bigoted and supremacist views. LKY would most certainly have put Alan in his place! I think Kishore would too if he were there! Alan's is an intellectual embarrassment! China's unprecedented success in the last 40 years is the elephant in the room! Yet Alan could not see it! He still berates China's governance and values. There is a word to describe that kind of person but I will not say it out of politeness!*
All Great powers are not benevolent and they will always act on their own iterests. However the 5Eyes also know that they are at its last leg to act as Judge, Jury and Executor. So all other countries should not think that they can be Middle powers and instead, be always ready to act nimble and get out of troubles.
@@sc-to4uf oh ok. So instead of addressing what he said, you're just going to smear him with unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks. But please; explain to me these white supremacist views that he allegedly has.
@@fearhungerpride *No one can help you there if you can't or won't see it! It's a fool's errand to prove to a white supremacist that he is a white supremacist! Nuff said!*
How could LKY school no self-insight with independent view as late Lee Kuan Yew invited someone as Alan DuPont not objective very negative & one sided blame on China & play Australia as victim !
You had a choice and you chose. You started with Huawei then Australia choose lies and hypocrisy. Please Australia thinks too highly of themselves like you the speaker and your prepared statement.
I am disappointed and fear for Singapore to go with the Western "democracies" that is so biased, self serving and based largely on white supremacy ideologies. And it seems so dangerous not to focus on embracing China, collaboratively, and building ourselves so we also benefit collectively and peacefully. It is evident that China is winning in terms of relationships with actual help for many developing nations and Middle East. Mutual respect which is grossly missing in the in West when it comes to political stance with other nations, instead of building relationships, they seems to slap sanctions a lot, making the plight of developing nations worse, not better. I feel disappointed with the speakers mostly taking a Western stance, including giving advise China not to disregard the smaller countries and losing friends etc. China just brought 750 million of its people out of proverty - which country has ever done it within such short time, and we are talking about a very big country. And look at how the respective countries handle the pandemic - isnt it telling? US still cannot even resolve their problems with guns control, drugs, homelessness, corrupted leaders with their lobbies. To that lady, I feel she should at least hv opened her eyes and ears and remove her personal bias. What a shame to hold "panel" like this that serves only to mislead people, serving as lackey/mouthpiece for the West. It shows ignorance and arrogance.
Well Said "Thank you". Australia has "invaded" with the USA - Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraqi and Syria also with Britain the invasion of Turkey (Gallipoli) for good or bad these are "facts" and we have won none of them. All of them a waste of human life & resources losing our love ones for “What,” all we do is create refugees and misery.
Unfortunately there's still too much group think & brainwash by many who do not question the dbl standard applied by Western allies. Human rights was called out selectively for countries to suit their agenda. They hv collectively afflicted more atrocities in all the countries they intervened. Yes such waste of resources, lives, and a price too high but unfortunately paid for by nations they "help". We dun hv to like China to call out hypocrisies, lies and injustices of the West.
Dr Alan Dupont obviously reflects the views of Australians. He certainly does not appear to be objective which he is supposed to be as a member of the discussion panel.
It is very sad to hear Dupont speaking. The other speakers from Singapore have more balanced view of the state of two great powers affecting smaller powers. How to be friends with everyone.
One thing after hearing Alan's 5 minutes we know he is a denier of what and how the relationship with China had deteriorated. China had been patient after many anti China actions by Australia and he never once admit China's had been reaction to Australia's insults. He thinks China as a buyer is obliged to buy from Australia. Those only part of the reasons too long to elaborate. Come on ... . grow up
I think on China's side, it should not completely ban Australian imports if they are competitive; it is counterproductive and turns away moderates more. If there is dumping or defects, simply charge a fee. I sense it may be too late to turn back, and the bilateral relationship has been damaged by negative sentiment (Murdoch's News Corp influence doesn't help). However, if they decide to retaliate, they should make it clear to link it to Australia's initial decisions to block various investments.
There is so much narrative and influence campaigns occurring right now. There is so much going on under the table, China really needs to make an effort to bring things out into the open and its diplomats/spokespeople/translators need to take a note out of Lee Kuan Yew's book and be eloquent debaters (logic makes sense and evidence is concrete) instead of lawyers; US is a master in manufacturing consent and if this goes any longer, falsehoods will become reality. The EU is the balance in the current state of international relations. At this point, China's state media has been stigmatized so much that their only voice to the Western world is through spokespeople (of which Western media selectively chooses). While China may dislike others from "interfering in domestic affairs", the only way for China to clear its name in the Western world would be to have the UN Human Rights commission to see the reality on the ground (have been invited but not sure what is the delay in making a decision).
Notice that Australia conducted an internal investigation on "war crimes in Afghanistan", France conducted an internal investigation on "Rwandan massacre", the US conducts internal investigations/hides information on everything from "southern border camps" to "US war crimes in the Middle East" to "systemic racism" to "NSA spying". If I were China, I would set up a task force to conduct a transparent internal investigation and deliver a report if there has been any abuses (there may be some isolated incidents if there are bad apples). If the US still demands an independent (meaning international) investigation, China should agree as long as the US agrees to an international investigation to any of the above.
@@michaeld9329 don't talk nonsense . west hid tons of atrocities too terrible to mention. already China is transparent with covid19 investigations not US or any western nations yet. China has few cases of criminal activities and cannot be said on western.
@@michaeld9329 You said China should allow UN human rights commission to investigate and you think that is so simple? i don't think China would refuse if it is asked and China is in the UN human rights council and very popular there unlike the US. Look at this this way. Should China be insulted to be investigated based on lies which had been proven beyond any shadow of doubt . Do you think China's opponents like the US allow human rights to do likewise on them on the sooooooooooooooo many human rights violations too many to mention? I tell you the answer .. not even one. So who do they think China is . A small nation easily bullied and investigated like the Australian small fry wanted on the virus? Come on China today is bigger than the USA and stronger in any angle or sectors you can mention it. Only China is patient and very very patient. That is why in Alaska , finally China is showing her status. No nonsense .
I am stunned at the lack of intellectual integrity that this program exhibits. I am even more astonished that it comes from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, an entity that I have had the utmost respect and admiration for for a long time. I think it insults Lee Kuan Yew, one of the greatest statesmen the modern world has seen. I have enjoyed many programs from the LKYSPP but if this lack of quality becomes the norm, I will get my intellectual stimulation elsewhere. Mention is made of China's recent flexing of more muscle in the international arena but decades of U.S. hegemony and its use of unilateral sanctions to bully nations into conformity with what is really its rules and norms is ignored. China is made out to be the bad guy. No effort is made to explore why China is more vocal in recent times. It seems it is enough to just bash China for speaking up.
Thank you for the good analyses from the analysts. However, when the Australian analyst said it was only China causing problems, i don't seem to agree with that. Anyone who keenly follows global affairs clearly knows what is happening.
As soon as Singapore thinks big that it is a Middle power, then I think that it will be in trouble. Better to be humble, then its opinions can be counted by all sides
China foreign policy is to achieve win win for both sides through diplomacy and cooperation. The ones who have to learn more and are tone deaf are some of the so called experts in this discussion. Not saying that Chinese government doesn’t make mistakes but these have to be addressed and solved through diplomatic routes and not through creating a narrative or pointing guns and rockets at China.
The Population/Space equation is a crucial challenge which cannot be quickly overcome. Australia is already home to a considerable number of Asian-Australian citizens and this trend will increase as the 21st century progresses. Rather than trade and military problems; these countries must soon consider mutual cooperation as a means of confronting fundamental environmental issues. Survival of the Human Race appears more urgent than Political outcomes. Personally; I warmly welcome Chinese enrichment of the entire Asian region.
Role of India?I'm very pessimistic about India's economy post Covid... The runaway population explosion is not a demographic dividend instead it's a demographic albatross.The second weakness ironically is democracy... you can't reform if you have democracy....look at the farmers protest against the minimum price reforms.
How much do these speakers really know about China, her history, her culture or even her philosophies. Nobody there seems to talk about China's view about a Win-Win and humanity's common destiny. Isn't that crucial to the well being for middle powers? Australia's stand is ridiculous..she has no foreign policy except the American so she should not be there participating.
The public insults of China feed an unconscious strain in the Western body politic that could seriously complicate Sino-American, sino-Australian relations: the fear of the “yellow peril.” This fear has surfaced from time to time, contributing to the rise of anti-Asian violence inUSA and Australia.
I'm an American and there are good percentages of the population don't buy in to the 2party structure and do not always agree with our government. there are many us who prefer to not to be a super power we just prefer and let an ally take leadership because we are very well aware that many countries do not like us.
Agree on some points, the two party system in the US broken because the politicians on both sides are not working independently and for the people. The politicians follow the will of the companies, special interest groups and the military industrial complex. The US and many more western countries need to realize that interfering with the domestic politics of a sovereign always end badly for the people living there. It’s the US with hundreds of military bases in the world. I think letting an ally clean up the mess is just as bad.
East Asia civilization that includes China, Korea, Vietnam and lesser Japan. All tend to value family, education and hard work. Blame them for their "forced" learning, work and accumulation of assets, they all deserved. What's wrong with all these any way.
It is very unfortunate that a large portion in the chinese community in south east asia will have sympathetic ears towards china due to a variety of reasons: 1. same cultural background 2. same language 3. uneducated on china matters 4. economic gain 5. sense of Chinese pride 6. chinese being discriminated by current leaders (look at Malaysia)
These aussi guy forgot that Australia is geographically in Asia. This is what happened when you play with nature.They come here in Asia invading native Australian people and dares to talk about china which has been with us since the beginning of civilisation.
The Australian participant seems to suggest that the US led rules based world order is the most ideal for Asia as we don't know what rules China will apply when they become the biggest player in the region....but the behavior of the US isn't the most noble after world war 2. The regime change operations to dispose of governments that the US dislikes the endless wars that the US fought the disregard for rules eg exiting the WHO and not recognizing the ICJ the sanctions against countries and corporations that the US dislikes... Of course Australia would prefer a rules based order presided by the US.... being an Anglo Saxon country...and part of the Five Eyes countries they feel safer with big brother America in the region.But many Asian countries don't feel the same as Australia. So Australia as the deputy sheriff of the US in the region does not represent Asia's views.
I think the people of the world are subject to so much of western/colonial/imperialistic teaching (rather subtle propaganda) that even the top academia (of this panel) are unknowingly sprouting western ideology. A cure for this I would venture is to remember the "accident" or "mistake" committed by the bombing of the Chinese embassy in 1999. Even if I believe it was an accident, three journalist still lost their lives. So wouldn't it be prudent to err on the side of not bombing, than the other way around?
Australia's current position is an outcome of a trade war being waged on Australia as a result of Australia expressing its national interests positions in relation to Covid and Belt and Road financial shackles on its immediate neighbours and China's occupation of disputed islands in the South China Sea and the Pacific not to mention human rights, cyber interference and serious\, ongoing and excessive interferences by the CPP to subvert Australian domestic politics and tertiary educational institutions. The fact that these positions do not align with China's is the issue for China. Australia was the first country to recognise China in the 1970's. It has been a partner of China's for the last 40 years for enormous mutual benefit and it had a strong relationship with China until Xi demanded Australia cowtow . Australia has long term shared interests with the US and fought 2 world Wars in the 20th Century as an ally. That has not changed. The change has been on the part of CHina who does not respect Australia's right to have its own independent foreign policy.
national interests...one would have thought sustaining your economy would be fairly high on the list...as i see it from afar, there are elements of the aussie government that are pushing their own agenda...these people are out of control and i think extremly dangerous to you...australia is bloated with chinese money, in sydney i hear average house price more than 1 million...talk about exposed...do you think president murdock cares
Although what God prophesies is what He has accomplished, the actual kingdom has not yet fully arrived on the earth. Instead, as humanity changes, as the work progresses, and as lightning comes out of the East-that is, as God’s word deepens-the kingdom will slowly come about on earth, gradually but completely descending upon this world. The process of the coming of the kingdom is also the process of the divine work on earth. Meanwhile, throughout the universe, God has begun a work that has not been done in all the ages throughout history: to reorganize the earth in its entirety. For example, tremendous changes are afoot throughout the universe, including changes in the State of Israel, the coup d’état in the United States of America, the changes in Egypt, the changes in the Soviet Union, and the overthrow of China. Once the entire universe has settled down and been restored to normal, God’s work on earth will be completed; that is when the kingdom will come to earth. This is the true meaning of the words, “When all the nations of the world are disrupted, that is precisely when My kingdom will be established and shaped, as well as when I will transform and turn to face the entire universe.” Excerpt from the link
After the foundation of the world, the first stage of God’s work was carried out in Israel, and thus Israel was the birthplace of God’s work on earth, and the base of God’s work on earth. The scope of Jesus’ work covered the whole of Judea. During His work, very few of those outside of Judea knew of it, for He did not do any work beyond Judea. Today, God’s work has been brought to China, and it is carried out purely within this scope. During this phase, no work is launched outside of China; its spread beyond China is work that will come later. This stage of work follows on from the stage of Jesus’ work. Jesus did the work of redemption, and this stage is the work that follows on from that work; the work of redemption has been completed, and in this stage there is no need for conception by the Holy Spirit, because this stage of work is unlike the last stage, and, moreover, because China is unlike Israel. Jesus did one stage of the work of redemption. Man beheld Jesus, and not long after, His work began to spread to the Gentiles. Today, there are many who believe in God in America, the UK and Russia, so why are there fewer people who believe in China? Because China is the most closed nation. As such, China was the last to accept the way of God, and even now it has been less than a hundred years since it did-much later than America and the UK. The last stage of God’s work is carried out in the land of China in order to bring His work to an end, and in order that all His work may be accomplished. The people in Israel all called Jehovah their Lord. At the time, they considered Him the head of their family, and the whole of Israel became a great family in which everyone worshiped their Lord Jehovah. The Spirit of Jehovah often appeared to them, and He spoke and uttered His voice to them, and used a pillar of cloud and sound to guide their lives. At that time, the Spirit provided His guidance in Israel directly, speaking and uttering His voice to the people, and they beheld the clouds and heard the peals of thunder, and in this way He guided their lives for several thousands of years. Thus, only the people of Israel have always worshiped Jehovah. They believe that Jehovah is their God, and that He is not the God of the Gentiles. This is not surprising: Jehovah, after all, had worked among them for close to four thousand years. In the land of China, after thousands of years of lethargic slumber, only now have the degenerates come to know that the heavens and earth and all things were not formed naturally, but made by the Creator. Because this gospel has come from abroad, those feudal, reactionary minds believe that all those who accept this gospel are treacherous, they are the curs who have betrayed the Buddha, their ancestor. Moreover, many of these feudal minds ask, “How can Chinese people believe in the God of foreigners? Are they not betraying their ancestors? Are they not committing evil?” Today, people have long since forgotten that Jehovah is their God. They have long since pushed the Creator to the back of their minds, and they instead believe in evolution, meaning that man evolved from apes, and that the natural world came about as a matter of course. All the good food enjoyed by mankind is provided by nature, there is order to the life and death of man, and there does not exist a God who rules over it all. Moreover, there are many atheists who believe that God ruling over everything is superstition and is not scientific. But can science replace the work of God? Can science rule over mankind? Preaching the gospel in a country ruled by atheism is no easy task, and it involves great obstacles. Today, are there not many who oppose God in this way? Excerpt from the link
Thank you. Please continue with your original life. Maybe you'll change your trajectory when life isn't fun. I sincerely hope you will concentrate on your research.
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Like it or not, China is going to be in Asia for good. ... Good or bad, counties in Asia have no choice. Western thinking Country like Singapore should think more Chinese.
'Western thinking country like Singapore' lol, where TF did you get that idea from?
US's use of coercion on all countries since WW2 and especially its mantra "You are either with us or against us" is intimidating on young nations choosing between trade with China or being friend of USA. The new world order with more than one superpowers could steer towards greater multilateralism and benefiting more emerging countries as compared with an adversarial relationship between US or China. The voices of emerging countries have to be heard.
If LKYSPP does not change the way the select speakers to their Centre soon it will lose her credibility.
This School is for distinguished guests who have shown vision or statesmanship.etc2....NOT for prejudiced and racists!!!
Or does the management of LKYSPP think anyone can be at this school so long as he has paid or is being paid!???
I live in Australia, I am sorry for this pseudo strategist that can't take responsibility for Australian behaviours. The problem we have with China came because of this kind of man retorics.
I think he understands the issues a whole lot better than you!
To allow its audience to put things in perspective, the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy should declare Alan DuPont’s association with the (infamous) Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) which is partly funded by the Australian Department of Defence and by foreign countries such as the United States, MILITARY CONTRACTORS, as well as defence companies such as Raytheon and Lockheed Martin among others.
A reputable institute like LKYSPP should know the difference between balanced discussion of different views and false balance with one side presenting lies and disinformation. Alan DuPont is not an honest scholar. Please stop inviting guys like him to future discussions. It will hurt the reputation of the Institute.
No wonder, this Ausie is so fluent to spread lies.
Singapore should be thankful to Australia for playing the bad cop, willingly or otherwise. The louder they bark at China, the lesser the need for Singapore (and other long time non-ally US partners) to do the same. 饮水要思源。
It’s too obvious that DuPont is a paid hack!
@@Penaming Yes, SG is clearly a non-US ally. Because all non-US allies get F35s, have joint naval exercises, and close military cooperation._.
To the Australian speaker : What does he have to say about the coercions and attacks exerted by Uncle Sam vis a vis its own allies, ripping off trade deals at a whim or stealing mask supplies or other PPE supplies during the covid pandemic. As the world can tell, the Australians are victims to their own aggressive stance towards their biggest customer ? Do Australians think they can also get always with aggressive behavior like the US does on the international scene ? It's time China stands up and puts a stop to all that nonesense. Australia is on notice that this has got to stop or else.
The answer is Australia will move away from coercive trading relationship with China.
*I was disappointed that there is no push back on Alan Dupont's bigoted and supremacist views. LKY would most certainly have put Alan in his place! I think Kishore would too if he were there! Alan's is an intellectual embarrassment! China's unprecedented success in the last 40 years is the elephant in the room! Yet Alan could not see it! He still berates China's governance and values. There is a word to describe that kind of person but I will not say it out of politeness!*
All Great powers are not benevolent and they will always act on their own iterests. However the 5Eyes also know that they are at its last leg to act as Judge, Jury and Executor. So all other countries should not think that they can be Middle powers and instead, be always ready to act nimble and get out of troubles.
What was so supremacist and embarassing about what Dupont said?
@@fearhungerpride *By definition, a white supremacist is blind and deaf to another white supremacist!*
@@sc-to4uf oh ok. So instead of addressing what he said, you're just going to smear him with unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks. But please; explain to me these white supremacist views that he allegedly has.
@@fearhungerpride *No one can help you there if you can't or won't see it! It's a fool's errand to prove to a white supremacist that he is a white supremacist! Nuff said!*
Please stop inviting people like Alan Dupont who contributed nothing to the discussion but wasted precious time.
How could LKY school no self-insight with independent view as late Lee Kuan Yew invited someone as Alan DuPont not objective very negative & one sided blame on China & play Australia as victim !
You had a choice and you chose. You started with Huawei then Australia choose lies and hypocrisy. Please Australia thinks too highly of themselves like you the speaker and your prepared statement.
Australian perception is coloured being a traditional US allies. Hence is not balance
THis has nothing to do with the US this is about China's growing muscle flexing and Australia standing its ground.
I am disappointed and fear for Singapore to go with the Western "democracies" that is so biased, self serving and based largely on white supremacy ideologies. And it seems so dangerous not to focus on embracing China, collaboratively, and building ourselves so we also benefit collectively and peacefully. It is evident that China is winning in terms of relationships with actual help for many developing nations and Middle East. Mutual respect which is grossly missing in the in West when it comes to political stance with other nations, instead of building relationships, they seems to slap sanctions a lot, making the plight of developing nations worse, not better. I feel disappointed with the speakers mostly taking a Western stance, including giving advise China not to disregard the smaller countries and losing friends etc. China just brought 750 million of its people out of proverty - which country has ever done it within such short time, and we are talking about a very big country. And look at how the respective countries handle the pandemic - isnt it telling? US still cannot even resolve their problems with guns control, drugs, homelessness, corrupted leaders with their lobbies. To that lady, I feel she should at least hv opened her eyes and ears and remove her personal bias. What a shame to hold "panel" like this that serves only to mislead people, serving as lackey/mouthpiece for the West. It shows ignorance and arrogance.
Well Said "Thank you". Australia has "invaded" with the USA - Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraqi and Syria also with Britain the invasion of Turkey (Gallipoli) for good or bad these are "facts" and we have won none of them. All of them a waste of human life & resources losing our love ones for “What,” all we do is create refugees and misery.
Unfortunately there's still too much group think & brainwash by many who do not question the dbl standard applied by Western allies. Human rights was called out selectively for countries to suit their agenda. They hv collectively afflicted more atrocities in all the countries they intervened. Yes such waste of resources, lives, and a price too high but unfortunately paid for by nations they "help". We dun hv to like China to call out hypocrisies, lies and injustices of the West.
Dr Alan Dupont obviously reflects the views of Australians. He certainly does not appear to be objective which he is supposed to be as a member of the discussion panel.
It is very sad to hear Dupont speaking.
The other speakers from Singapore have more balanced view of the state of two great powers affecting smaller powers. How to be friends with everyone.
One thing after hearing Alan's 5 minutes we know he is a denier of what and how the relationship with China had deteriorated. China had been patient after many anti China actions by Australia and he never once admit China's had been reaction to Australia's insults.
He thinks China as a buyer is obliged to buy from Australia.
Those only part of the reasons too long to elaborate.
Come on ... . grow up
I think on China's side, it should not completely ban Australian imports if they are competitive; it is counterproductive and turns away moderates more. If there is dumping or defects, simply charge a fee. I sense it may be too late to turn back, and the bilateral relationship has been damaged by negative sentiment (Murdoch's News Corp influence doesn't help). However, if they decide to retaliate, they should make it clear to link it to Australia's initial decisions to block various investments.
There is so much narrative and influence campaigns occurring right now. There is so much going on under the table, China really needs to make an effort to bring things out into the open and its diplomats/spokespeople/translators need to take a note out of Lee Kuan Yew's book and be eloquent debaters (logic makes sense and evidence is concrete) instead of lawyers; US is a master in manufacturing consent and if this goes any longer, falsehoods will become reality. The EU is the balance in the current state of international relations. At this point, China's state media has been stigmatized so much that their only voice to the Western world is through spokespeople (of which Western media selectively chooses). While China may dislike others from "interfering in domestic affairs", the only way for China to clear its name in the Western world would be to have the UN Human Rights commission to see the reality on the ground (have been invited but not sure what is the delay in making a decision).
Notice that Australia conducted an internal investigation on "war crimes in Afghanistan", France conducted an internal investigation on "Rwandan massacre", the US conducts internal investigations/hides information on everything from "southern border camps" to "US war crimes in the Middle East" to "systemic racism" to "NSA spying". If I were China, I would set up a task force to conduct a transparent internal investigation and deliver a report if there has been any abuses (there may be some isolated incidents if there are bad apples). If the US still demands an independent (meaning international) investigation, China should agree as long as the US agrees to an international investigation to any of the above.
@@michaeld9329 don't talk nonsense . west hid tons of atrocities too terrible to mention.
already China is transparent with covid19 investigations not US or any western nations yet.
China has few cases of criminal activities and cannot be said on western.
@@michaeld9329 You said China should allow UN human rights commission to investigate and you think that is so simple? i don't think China would refuse if it is asked and China is in the UN human rights council and very popular there unlike the US.
Look at this this way. Should China be insulted to be investigated based on lies which had been proven beyond any shadow of doubt . Do you think China's opponents like the US allow human rights to do likewise on them on the sooooooooooooooo many human rights violations too many to mention? I tell you the answer .. not even one.
So who do they think China is . A small nation easily bullied and investigated like the Australian small fry wanted on the virus? Come on China today is bigger than the USA and stronger in any angle or sectors you can mention it. Only China is patient and very very patient.
That is why in Alaska , finally China is showing her status. No nonsense .
LKY did gave Australia a piece of advice. Heed to the great man’s words.
I am stunned at the lack of intellectual integrity that this program exhibits. I am even more astonished that it comes from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, an entity that I have had the utmost respect and admiration for for a long time. I think it insults Lee Kuan Yew, one of the greatest statesmen the modern world has seen. I have enjoyed many programs from the LKYSPP but if this lack of quality becomes the norm, I will get my intellectual stimulation elsewhere.
Mention is made of China's recent flexing of more muscle in the international arena but decades of U.S. hegemony and its use of unilateral sanctions to bully nations into conformity with what is really its rules and norms is ignored. China is made out to be the bad guy. No effort is made to explore why China is more vocal in recent times. It seems it is enough to just bash China for speaking up.
The Western nations say " do what I say and not what I do"
Thank you for the good analyses from the analysts. However, when the Australian analyst said it was only China causing problems, i don't seem to agree with that. Anyone who keenly follows global affairs clearly knows what is happening.
So u got 2 speakers from singapore who the 2nd speaker says is closer to the US and the 3rd from a US ally. That's is by no means balanced.
singapore is more western now in terms of mentality. As Singaporean, I'm not sure whether this is a right direction.
As soon as Singapore thinks big that it is a Middle power, then I think that it will be in trouble. Better to be humble, then its opinions can be counted by all sides
Australia and Canada are middle power and also neutral?
Their actions and voices are reprehensible and shameful
China foreign policy is to achieve win win for both sides through diplomacy and cooperation. The ones who have to learn more and are tone deaf are some of the so called experts in this discussion. Not saying that Chinese government doesn’t make mistakes but these have to be addressed and solved through diplomatic routes and not through creating a narrative or pointing guns and rockets at China.
In Fair trade it is Called a "Win Win" but not the USA's slogan "Winners Take All""
This seems to me a fishy discussion, putting China on the defensive or ..'ahem'..restrain. Lky wouldn't think it's right.
The Population/Space equation is a crucial challenge which cannot be quickly overcome. Australia is already home to a considerable number of Asian-Australian citizens and this trend will increase as the 21st century progresses. Rather than trade and military problems; these countries must soon consider mutual cooperation as a means of confronting fundamental environmental issues. Survival of the Human Race appears more urgent than Political outcomes. Personally; I warmly welcome Chinese enrichment of the entire Asian region.
Role of India?I'm very pessimistic about India's economy post Covid... The runaway population explosion is not a demographic dividend instead it's a demographic albatross.The second weakness ironically is democracy... you can't reform if you have democracy....look at the farmers protest against the minimum price reforms.
How much do these speakers really know about China, her history, her culture or even her philosophies.
Nobody there seems to talk about China's view about a Win-Win and humanity's common destiny.
Isn't that crucial to the well being for middle powers?
Australia's stand is ridiculous..she has no foreign policy except the American so she should not be there participating.
The public insults of China feed an unconscious strain in the Western body politic that could seriously complicate Sino-American, sino-Australian relations: the fear of the “yellow peril.” This fear has surfaced from time to time, contributing to the rise of anti-Asian violence inUSA and Australia.
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I have confident with our Singapore government.The lady is like giving a lecture,
Should invite real thinkers like Kishore rather than parroting from the positions of the bosses.
Singapore is a middle power? are you kidding?
I'm an American and there are good percentages of the population don't buy in to the 2party structure and do not always agree with our government. there are many us who prefer to not to be a super power we just prefer and let an ally take leadership because we are very well aware that many countries do not like us.
Agree on some points, the two party system in the US broken because the politicians on both sides are not working independently and for the people. The politicians follow the will of the companies, special interest groups and the military industrial complex. The US and many more western countries need to realize that interfering with the domestic politics of a sovereign always end badly for the people living there. It’s the US with hundreds of military bases in the world. I think letting an ally clean up the mess is just as bad.
there is so much of the narrative by Dupont that is objectionable ... LKY would be turning in his grave over this kind of analysis.
That Australian guy is really hard to listen to. The hypocrisy of many of his statements is hard to swallow.
The Lesson for Australia is to diversify its exports away from China and become less dependant.
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Let me guess, everyone agreed not to mention Taiwan?
East Asia civilization that includes China, Korea, Vietnam and lesser Japan. All tend to value family, education and hard work.
Blame them for their "forced" learning, work and accumulation of assets, they all deserved.
What's wrong with all these any way.
Alfred Tennyson “The old order changeth yielding place to new And God fulfills himself in many ways.
The days of new Babylonian regime changing like on Iran are already over.
Australia started it and now cries over their own F. U.
It is very unfortunate that a large portion in the chinese community in south east asia will have sympathetic ears towards china due to a variety of reasons: 1. same cultural background 2. same language 3. uneducated on china matters 4. economic gain 5. sense of Chinese pride 6. chinese being discriminated by current leaders (look at Malaysia)
These aussi guy forgot that Australia is geographically in Asia. This is what happened when you play with nature.They come here in Asia invading native Australian people and dares to talk about china which has been with us since the beginning of civilisation.
The Australian participant seems to suggest that the US led rules based world order is the most ideal for Asia as we don't know what rules China will apply when they become the biggest player in the region....but the behavior of the US isn't the most noble after world war 2. The regime change operations to dispose of governments that the US dislikes the endless wars that the US fought the disregard for rules eg exiting the WHO and not recognizing the ICJ the sanctions against countries and corporations that the US dislikes... Of course Australia would prefer a rules based order presided by the US.... being an Anglo Saxon country...and part of the Five Eyes countries they feel safer with big brother America in the region.But many Asian countries don't feel the same as Australia. So Australia as the deputy sheriff of the US in the region does not represent Asia's views.
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These two Chinese act moderately allowing bias aggressive Alan to channel conversation into anti-china.
US: we set standards for behavior, but not us the US exceptionalism.
China: let's settle everything on UN standards, globalization.
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I think the people of the world are subject to so much of western/colonial/imperialistic teaching (rather subtle propaganda) that even the top academia (of this panel) are unknowingly sprouting western ideology. A cure for this I would venture is to remember the "accident" or "mistake" committed by the bombing of the Chinese embassy in 1999. Even if I believe it was an accident, three journalist still lost their lives. So wouldn't it be prudent to err on the side of not bombing, than the other way around?
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Australia's current position is an outcome of a trade war being waged on Australia as a result of Australia expressing its national interests positions in relation to Covid and Belt and Road financial shackles on its immediate neighbours and China's occupation of disputed islands in the South China Sea and the Pacific not to mention human rights, cyber interference and serious\, ongoing and excessive interferences by the CPP to subvert Australian domestic politics and tertiary educational institutions. The fact that these positions do not align with China's is the issue for China.
Australia was the first country to recognise China in the 1970's. It has been a partner of China's for the last 40 years for enormous mutual benefit and it had a strong relationship with China until Xi demanded Australia cowtow . Australia has long term shared interests with the US and fought 2 world Wars in the 20th Century as an ally. That has not changed. The change has been on the part of CHina who does not respect Australia's right to have its own independent foreign policy.
national interests...one would have thought sustaining your economy would be fairly high on the list...as i see it from afar, there are elements of the aussie government that are pushing their own agenda...these people are out of control and i think extremly dangerous to you...australia is bloated with chinese money, in sydney i hear average house price more than 1 million...talk about exposed...do you think president murdock cares
Although what God prophesies is what He has accomplished, the actual kingdom has not yet fully arrived on the earth. Instead, as humanity changes, as the work progresses, and as lightning comes out of the East-that is, as God’s word deepens-the kingdom will slowly come about on earth, gradually but completely descending upon this world. The process of the coming of the kingdom is also the process of the divine work on earth. Meanwhile, throughout the universe, God has begun a work that has not been done in all the ages throughout history: to reorganize the earth in its entirety. For example, tremendous changes are afoot throughout the universe, including changes in the State of Israel, the coup d’état in the United States of America, the changes in Egypt, the changes in the Soviet Union, and the overthrow of China. Once the entire universe has settled down and been restored to normal, God’s work on earth will be completed; that is when the kingdom will come to earth. This is the true meaning of the words, “When all the nations of the world are disrupted, that is precisely when My kingdom will be established and shaped, as well as when I will transform and turn to face the entire universe.”
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It's more interesting to see you react like this. If you're interested, you can look forward to the next post. I sincerely wish you good luck.
After the foundation of the world, the first stage of God’s work was carried out in Israel, and thus Israel was the birthplace of God’s work on earth, and the base of God’s work on earth. The scope of Jesus’ work covered the whole of Judea. During His work, very few of those outside of Judea knew of it, for He did not do any work beyond Judea. Today, God’s work has been brought to China, and it is carried out purely within this scope. During this phase, no work is launched outside of China; its spread beyond China is work that will come later. This stage of work follows on from the stage of Jesus’ work. Jesus did the work of redemption, and this stage is the work that follows on from that work; the work of redemption has been completed, and in this stage there is no need for conception by the Holy Spirit, because this stage of work is unlike the last stage, and, moreover, because China is unlike Israel. Jesus did one stage of the work of redemption. Man beheld Jesus, and not long after, His work began to spread to the Gentiles. Today, there are many who believe in God in America, the UK and Russia, so why are there fewer people who believe in China? Because China is the most closed nation. As such, China was the last to accept the way of God, and even now it has been less than a hundred years since it did-much later than America and the UK. The last stage of God’s work is carried out in the land of China in order to bring His work to an end, and in order that all His work may be accomplished. The people in Israel all called Jehovah their Lord. At the time, they considered Him the head of their family, and the whole of Israel became a great family in which everyone worshiped their Lord Jehovah. The Spirit of Jehovah often appeared to them, and He spoke and uttered His voice to them, and used a pillar of cloud and sound to guide their lives. At that time, the Spirit provided His guidance in Israel directly, speaking and uttering His voice to the people, and they beheld the clouds and heard the peals of thunder, and in this way He guided their lives for several thousands of years. Thus, only the people of Israel have always worshiped Jehovah. They believe that Jehovah is their God, and that He is not the God of the Gentiles. This is not surprising: Jehovah, after all, had worked among them for close to four thousand years. In the land of China, after thousands of years of lethargic slumber, only now have the degenerates come to know that the heavens and earth and all things were not formed naturally, but made by the Creator. Because this gospel has come from abroad, those feudal, reactionary minds believe that all those who accept this gospel are treacherous, they are the curs who have betrayed the Buddha, their ancestor. Moreover, many of these feudal minds ask, “How can Chinese people believe in the God of foreigners? Are they not betraying their ancestors? Are they not committing evil?” Today, people have long since forgotten that Jehovah is their God. They have long since pushed the Creator to the back of their minds, and they instead believe in evolution, meaning that man evolved from apes, and that the natural world came about as a matter of course. All the good food enjoyed by mankind is provided by nature, there is order to the life and death of man, and there does not exist a God who rules over it all. Moreover, there are many atheists who believe that God ruling over everything is superstition and is not scientific. But can science replace the work of God? Can science rule over mankind? Preaching the gospel in a country ruled by atheism is no easy task, and it involves great obstacles. Today, are there not many who oppose God in this way?
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Thank you. Please continue with your original life. Maybe you'll change your trajectory when life isn't fun. I sincerely hope you will concentrate on your research.
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