Hey a quick FYI, I do have the EVF to the max brightness, and the screen set to standard. I showed this in my initial review. Also if watch till the end I explained how I now use the camera as intended or design for, hence ditching the grip and holding the camera like a M body. Also merry Xmas guys and have a great New Years. And if anyone knows how to set a custom button to recenter the tracking box, please let me know 😊
You guys are never happy... Modern days photographers looking for perfect camera that doesn't exist... I like your input but if you wanted a better screen and ergonomics you could get z8 z6 both really good for your issues... Zf was made for aesthetics and film camera look for hipsters and Fuji fanbase... Zf is heavy because is well built not cheap like some plastic Fuji cameras ... You could have bought a pancake lens like 26mm... Nikon almost always advertise zf with pancakes not pro s line lens... You want something lighter you have options..
I think photographers just buy cameras to complain complain complain complain, these photographers all they do is buy a camera and even if it is great, they have to list at list ONE complain lol... it is a RETRO CAM, yet, they want it to be like the modern cam, like, JUST GET A non retro cam, Boom!, smh sigh
@@gerardneedham I really don't see anything Zf needs to actually improve with. Respectfully your issues sound more like user error. If you are expecting Zf to behave/feel the same way as something like a Z8 in terms of grip and how you adjust exposure with dials. (which also isn't' an issue because you can use the Zf without having to use top dials.) Then honestly just sounds like lack of user ability to use the camera. I never understood people buying cameras like Xt5/zf then complain for them being retro themed cameras. I've been through Sony/Fuji/and now Nikon and it's been as easy as any other camera I've ever used. The ISO function was a bit weird. But that's really the only rational nitpick I can actually see. To me buying a Zf then complaining about the grip is like buying a motorcycle, only to complain about it having 2 wheels. You know what it is when you buy a retro camera.
The screen on the ZF is one of the best on the market. It's two point one million dots, which is better than some of sony's flagship cameras and On par with all other flagship cameras, and it's only two thousand people complaining about the l c d screen are just idiots.
Without questioning your experience, I find it unfortunate to hear this kind of criticism about the Zf. As a professional, I’m fortunate enough to work with all kinds of gear, and for my personal enjoyment, I own a Zf, which I use in the same spirit as I used my X-Pro3 and even my Leica M11. That is to say, as a camera that allows me to take photos, take my time, enjoy the process, have that tactile feeling, and engage in a more lively photography experience. Without calling your skills into question-which are outstanding, judging by your photos-I believe the issues you’re encountering may not necessarily stem from the camera itself. If you can expose correctly with your M9, I don’t think the problem lies with the Zf’s viewfinder or screen. I would suggest keeping the screen closed at all times, much like with an X-Pro3 or a film camera. In short, I feel you might be a bit harsh on this camera, while I personally think Nikon deserves praise for offering something many of us would have loved to see from Fujifilm, for example. That said, yes! There is one area where Nikon does deserve criticism: the Auto-ISO implementation. I understand the philosophy behind it, but I wish there were an option to keep the ‘C’ as mode automatic.
Yeah that’s it, I also just don’t use the screen now, just the view finder. I also feel if we don’t express our opinions negative or positive cameras will never get better, or worse for me if I’m too positive about a camera, and don’t express my dislikes, someone will buy the camera and find out they don’t like it, and I’ll feel dishonest.
Yeah I do have it on the brightest setting, the view finder is large and the specs say it’s as good as my A7IV (which is also not amazing) but the A7IV is much better, maybe it’s the shape 🫤
I just expose by eye and adjust with the EV comp, I do shoot AV but I don’t look at the meter. Yeah idk about the grip, it gets in the way of the front dial, and just holding the camera and lens is a better shooting position
@@gerardneedhamNikon zf has the best metering in any camera I used so far, which is Highlighted Metering which is metering for the highlight. I wish every camera has this because shadows in digital file is so easy to recover.
yeah, that's what should matter the most, not if you can hold it well lol, it is a retro cam, yes, maybe they made mistake but they will probably do it better next time.
I have the Smallrig grip and have no problem with ergonomics. I use primes a lot but doing events with the 70-180mm, 24-120mm, and I have done a 4 day music event with the 24-70mm 2.8 on it with no problems(my other camera was a Z8 with th 70-200mm 2.8). As an experienced Nikon user it is the same as using the Z6iii when you don't want to use the top controls. The AF-L button is better placed when having the front Function button set up to be a different different focus mode and are a back button focuser as on the Zf and Z6iii you have to hold it while on the Z8 and Z9 you set the up to press and it is activated and press it again to deactivate but don't get me goig on that problem. If you want to get quick action in varying conditions don't try to out smart the camera exposure.
I have to say, the Zf is probably the ONLY camera mortals can afford (*cough*q3 43*cough*) that I have some GAS over wanting to buy. Your thoughts help me hold that at bay. I've got the Fuji X-T5 for the looks and dials part. I've got a nice Sony for FF. I'll stand pat for now.
An interesting review. However, being both a film and digital photographer, I do not agree with your conclusions about this camera. I tend to shoot two handed and therefore the ergonomics have not been an issue for me. I recently returned from safari in Botswana and took the ZF primarily as my second camera. I quickly came to enjoy the experience of using this camera even in that harsh environment and I ended up using it the majority of the time. It’s really about adapting to the tool being used.
Yeah I fully agree with that, and that’s kinda my conclusion right? Use the camera how it’s supposed to be used, that’s why I’ve learned to adapt my shooting position to be more of a 3 point of contact (2 hands and eye on the view finder) I think I need more time to train away from my shooting style on my work cameras 😅
I don’t get one thing when I shoot with big lenses I usually hold the lens not the camera. Do you have the added grip? Also I shot thr d750 a long time professionally so I was used to using it to move around focus points with the D pad you can double tap the center button to quickly return the af point to center is it goes off.
Yeah I can’t do that on the ZF, I’ve also started to train my hands to be more reliant on holding the lens now too, as I think I’m a lazy one handed shooter 😅
WOW Gerard, your shots are unrealllll from this trip 🔥🔥 Btw been using your v1 presets all year and I love how they make some of my photos look, the film frame and light leak are game changers 🔥
I think maybe it's just not your camera. I had one recently for a couple of days and I really liked it. I will get one in a few month time for an upcoming trip to Japan. I am into landscape photography and use a NIKON D850 which is great for that but too big for my Japan trip. You might want to check out the Voigtländer lenses.
Happy New Year, Gerard! LCD screens that are (somewhat) polarized can look darker in the vertical orientation if your sunglasses are polarized - kinda like an ND filter effect. Are your sunglasses polarized? Cheers!
Hey yeah I don’t use my sunglasses while I shoot, sometimes for family photos on my Sony if I’m confident with my exposure and I’m looking into the sun 🤣
Yeah that lens is great, aluminium so it’s tough but super light, just need to select the correct lens correction as it applies the Nikon 28mm correction
I feel like you have crushed the grade already. If you switch to a z6iii you’ll have the Sony pace but with a much more characterful image space and start point and that body is much more ergonomic and lovely - I’m super curious how you find the Megadep pace? Do they feel native speed with the gm lenses?
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I've gone back and forth recently in my search for the best image for the money with portability, usability and lenses. I was sure it was the ZF and I was done with Fuji but I've come to realise Fuji X is the best, for me. I shoot the XT3 and the f2 lenses for travel/documenting and f1.2 lenses for the special shots. Down the line I will get the GFX 50r and Mitakon 65mm f1.4 for the ultimate IQ. For what its worth, I think your images with the Fuji XT5 look better than the ones with the ZF. Fuji just has a way with the colours.
Yeah the GFX line looks eye watering, I also like the seeing the film simulations on Fuji. But the colors on the XT5 and the ZF as very similar if you correct the white balance, I made a video about it about a month ago. I also prefer the look or dynamic range of full frame but that’s my preference
@@gerardneedham yeah I saw that video. You and Mitch are two of my fav creators. I spent a lot of time in Oz when I was younger, some of my family live there also. The locations and vibe resonate with me. I nearly bought a ZF but the lens options held me back. 50r is about the same price second hand. I would love to see a deep dive between Fuji and Nikon images.
Not point lack of skill, far away from this. But to shoot in super bright days, with a new camera you didn't test in those conditions before is 100% challenging, but not the camera's fault I guess. I use mine with a non reflective protective screen, adjusted view finder (brighter than the standard) and it works perfectly. I also added a handle on mine, so the camera is absolute flawless.
Yeah fully true, a optical view finder is as bright as you get 😅 I’m really just comparing the screen and evf to the XT5 and my Sony cameras, I just see a noticeable difference between them and the ZF
@ jeeesh sorry, brain temporarily stopped working. I’ve been eyeing a Zf to complement my Z8 but haven’t purchased yet due to lack of a joystick and the screen.
Almost. Press 'Ok' button to re-centre the focus point. If you turn the LCD facing you, it can be used to quickly zoom the focus point around the frame, faster than a joystick in my opinion.. I don't need it moslty so I just use the Zf with the LCD closed.
You are frustrated by the lack of a joystick😂. Sorry mate, but come on, these things are not proof of any profound intelligence. Do cameras need a joystick , no. Have you been able to get informed about the lack of this item in the Zf beforehand - yes, I would suppose😉
Yeah for me it’s a hassle ahahahah but if I could find a way of centering the focus point or have it locked in the center when I’m not tracking then I’ll be happy 😊
You are skilled but clearly lack common sense by not being properly informed about the camera before putting out a review. I hope you make some money from the video but apart the pictures it is not worth much
Awesome shots! Agree with Zf shortcomings. I applaud Nikon for doing Zf but few pieces here and there needs polishing. I hope they will improve and release next iteration. Clearly they hit jackpot.
Yeah like they made a camera that looks like a real film camera, and made the internals awesome! But I think the ZF 2 will be amazing, slightly smaller, better grip similar to the XT5, better evf and screen and maybe a bump in resolution (not that we need it ahahah)
I found that the same few photos appeared in several of your videos. Don’t you have more and better photos to show us? In addition, the viewfinder of each mirrorless camera can adjust the brightness. You didn’t know that there is such a function? If you feel it is too dark even when it is adjusted to the brightest, I think there is something wrong with your eyes and you need to get them checked. . .
No I have it on full brightness, my eyes are also good, well they work fine with the Fuji and Sony 😅 Also yeah I’ll use the photos in older and newer videos, that’s how I make videos. I also won’t apologise for that ahahah. I don’t watch many people who don’t do this
I think I'm a bit different from most. I don't care about retro design. I grew up on film cameras. One day (at least the first day I noticed ), a Canon camera came out with a grip on on it. Woohoo! go Canon I thought; best camera body ever! It was a beautiful thing. Thank God we don't have to use grip-less cameras anymore. Then slowly something strange started to happen. Scroll wheels and menu dives and LCD screens started replacing the shutter dial and aperture rings on lenses and I didn't like it. I still don't. I bought the Zf so I can change settings with dials rather than menus and scroll wheels and have some control over what I'm doing with a quick glance at the camera body. I'd love a thoroughly modern Z8 camera body with dials. I'm old enough to have grown up on retro cameras but I don't like them `per se'. The lack of a grip does not make me feel nostalgic, it just makes me feel like I'm going to drop my camera - lol! I know all us old folks used to take photos without grips and AF and all the rest but man they were the bad old days not the good old days. I find the smallrig grip is fine and I use my 135mm Plena and 70-200 mm telephoto on the Zf just as well as I do on the Z6ii and D850 DSLR I think if dials don't do it for you from a functionality point of view I wouldn't keep it. Can't really comment on Mathew's M9 as I've never handled one. But I did get to play with a Leica M-A in the Leica store in Chadstone and it was a beautiful thing. I haven't noticed an issue with the screen so far but I'll pay more attention to it now Great vid. Thanks.
dude, you whine too much lol and it's all ill founded. It's not like you have good points. It's just like what the hell are you talking about? You're missing photos because you don't understand the camera in and out. There's so many things that solve the problems you're stating. I'm not gonna go into them on a TH-cam comment. Because it's so comprehensive, but learn the camera bro
Hey a quick FYI, I do have the EVF to the max brightness, and the screen set to standard. I showed this in my initial review. Also if watch till the end I explained how I now use the camera as intended or design for, hence ditching the grip and holding the camera like a M body.
Also merry Xmas guys and have a great New Years.
And if anyone knows how to set a custom button to recenter the tracking box, please let me know 😊
Recenter tracking box just double press middle dpad
changing systems every year gets them more views and content , at some point they have to start planning the next move I guess
Press “ok” to reset the af box, it’s by default
You guys are never happy... Modern days photographers looking for perfect camera that doesn't exist... I like your input but if you wanted a better screen and ergonomics you could get z8 z6 both really good for your issues... Zf was made for aesthetics and film camera look for hipsters and Fuji fanbase... Zf is heavy because is well built not cheap like some plastic Fuji cameras ... You could have bought a pancake lens like 26mm... Nikon almost always advertise zf with pancakes not pro s line lens... You want something lighter you have options..
I think photographers just buy cameras to complain complain complain complain, these photographers all they do is buy a camera and even if it is great, they have to list at list ONE complain lol... it is a RETRO CAM, yet, they want it to be like the modern cam, like, JUST GET A non retro cam, Boom!, smh sigh
Their content is built on saying the same things as others so they have to be nitpicky to get viewers :)
Meh if you don’t complain nothing will get better ❤️🩹
@@gerardneedham I really don't see anything Zf needs to actually improve with. Respectfully your issues sound more like user error. If you are expecting Zf to behave/feel the same way as something like a Z8 in terms of grip and how you adjust exposure with dials. (which also isn't' an issue because you can use the Zf without having to use top dials.) Then honestly just sounds like lack of user ability to use the camera. I never understood people buying cameras like Xt5/zf then complain for them being retro themed cameras. I've been through Sony/Fuji/and now Nikon and it's been as easy as any other camera I've ever used. The ISO function was a bit weird. But that's really the only rational nitpick I can actually see.
To me buying a Zf then complaining about the grip is like buying a motorcycle, only to complain about it having 2 wheels. You know what it is when you buy a retro camera.
The screen on the ZF is one of the best on the market. It's two point one million dots, which is better than some of sony's flagship cameras and On par with all other flagship cameras, and it's only two thousand people complaining about the l c d screen are just idiots.
Without questioning your experience, I find it unfortunate to hear this kind of criticism about the Zf. As a professional, I’m fortunate enough to work with all kinds of gear, and for my personal enjoyment, I own a Zf, which I use in the same spirit as I used my X-Pro3 and even my Leica M11. That is to say, as a camera that allows me to take photos, take my time, enjoy the process, have that tactile feeling, and engage in a more lively photography experience.
Without calling your skills into question-which are outstanding, judging by your photos-I believe the issues you’re encountering may not necessarily stem from the camera itself. If you can expose correctly with your M9, I don’t think the problem lies with the Zf’s viewfinder or screen. I would suggest keeping the screen closed at all times, much like with an X-Pro3 or a film camera.
In short, I feel you might be a bit harsh on this camera, while I personally think Nikon deserves praise for offering something many of us would have loved to see from Fujifilm, for example.
That said, yes! There is one area where Nikon does deserve criticism: the Auto-ISO implementation. I understand the philosophy behind it, but I wish there were an option to keep the ‘C’ as mode automatic.
Yeah that’s it, I also just don’t use the screen now, just the view finder. I also feel if we don’t express our opinions negative or positive cameras will never get better, or worse for me if I’m too positive about a camera, and don’t express my dislikes, someone will buy the camera and find out they don’t like it, and I’ll feel dishonest.
The brightness of the EVF can be adjusted, and it works for me even in brightest conditions
Yeah I do have it on the brightest setting, the view finder is large and the specs say it’s as good as my A7IV (which is also not amazing) but the A7IV is much better, maybe it’s the shape 🫤
You can use the touch function as a joystick.When using the evf when using the lcd you don't need a joy stick Just tap where you want to focus.
I’ve never had an issue exposing with the camera. What metering mode are you using? Also, the grip is easily solved with an external grip.
I just expose by eye and adjust with the EV comp, I do shoot AV but I don’t look at the meter.
Yeah idk about the grip, it gets in the way of the front dial, and just holding the camera and lens is a better shooting position
@@gerardneedhamNikon zf has the best metering in any camera I used so far, which is Highlighted Metering which is metering for the highlight. I wish every camera has this because shadows in digital file is so easy to recover.
The images look stunning !
yeah, that's what should matter the most, not if you can hold it well lol, it is a retro cam, yes, maybe they made mistake but they will probably do it better next time.
Thanks 🙏
I have found the Zf much better without the grip, although my hands are quite large so that might be a factor. I also shoot it like a Leica.
I have the Smallrig grip and have no problem with ergonomics. I use primes a lot but doing events with the 70-180mm, 24-120mm, and I have done a 4 day music event with the 24-70mm 2.8 on it with no problems(my other camera was a Z8 with th 70-200mm 2.8).
As an experienced Nikon user it is the same as using the Z6iii when you don't want to use the top controls. The AF-L button is better placed when having the front Function button set up to be a different different focus mode and are a back button focuser as on the Zf and Z6iii you have to hold it while on the Z8 and Z9 you set the up to press and it is activated and press it again to deactivate but don't get me goig on that problem.
If you want to get quick action in varying conditions don't try to out smart the camera exposure.
Yeah I’m looking forward to testing out the Z6III at the end of the month yeoow
I have to say, the Zf is probably the ONLY camera mortals can afford (*cough*q3 43*cough*) that I have some GAS over wanting to buy. Your thoughts help me hold that at bay. I've got the Fuji X-T5 for the looks and dials part. I've got a nice Sony for FF. I'll stand pat for now.
Yeah you're good mate, you have a great kit!
You should try it for yourself. Don't let whiny, youtubers. Decide what's best for you.
An interesting review. However, being both a film and digital photographer, I do not agree with your conclusions about this camera. I tend to shoot two handed and therefore the ergonomics have not been an issue for me. I recently returned from safari in Botswana and took the ZF primarily as my second camera. I quickly came to enjoy the experience of using this camera even in that harsh environment and I ended up using it the majority of the time. It’s really about adapting to the tool being used.
Yeah I fully agree with that, and that’s kinda my conclusion right? Use the camera how it’s supposed to be used, that’s why I’ve learned to adapt my shooting position to be more of a 3 point of contact (2 hands and eye on the view finder)
I think I need more time to train away from my shooting style on my work cameras 😅
I don’t get one thing when I shoot with big lenses I usually hold the lens not the camera. Do you have the added grip? Also I shot thr d750 a long time professionally so I was used to using it to move around focus points with the D pad you can double tap the center button to quickly return the af point to center is it goes off.
Yeah I can’t do that on the ZF, I’ve also started to train my hands to be more reliant on holding the lens now too, as I think I’m a lazy one handed shooter 😅
WOW Gerard, your shots are unrealllll from this trip 🔥🔥
Btw been using your v1 presets all year and I love how they make some of my photos look, the film frame and light leak are game changers 🔥
Epic thanks for the support and kind words 😊
I think maybe it's just not your camera. I had one recently for a couple of days and I really liked it. I will get one in a few month time for an upcoming trip to Japan.
I am into landscape photography and use a NIKON D850 which is great for that but too big for my Japan trip. You might want to check out the Voigtländer lenses.
Yeah those lenses look spicy, might be getting a few for the M mount
Happy New Year, Gerard! LCD screens that are (somewhat) polarized can look darker in the vertical orientation if your sunglasses are polarized - kinda like an ND filter effect. Are your sunglasses polarized? Cheers!
Hey yeah I don’t use my sunglasses while I shoot, sometimes for family photos on my Sony if I’m confident with my exposure and I’m looking into the sun 🤣
Surprised to hear you used the Sony 28mm f2. It’s not a lens you hear about much anymore but it’s one of my favorite lenses
Yeah that lens is great, aluminium so it’s tough but super light, just need to select the correct lens correction as it applies the Nikon 28mm correction
Thanks a lot for this video and also for your time great job keep your dream up we are here to learn from you and also to see this video thanks.
Hahaaaa so funny. I think this camera is better for what is intended for. But I'm waiting for the next seasons of switch : Leica, Pentax,... 😂
Yeah 👍
I love my Zf, never had any of the problems that you have encountered.
That’s epic, it’s a awesome camera
I feel like you have crushed the grade already. If you switch to a z6iii you’ll have the Sony pace but with a much more characterful image space and start point and that body is much more ergonomic and lovely - I’m super curious how you find the Megadep pace? Do they feel native speed with the gm lenses?
Yeah the z6iii is coming soon 😊
The adapter works fine, I wouldn’t use it for a pro job I think there is a level of fail that could happen
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I've gone back and forth recently in my search for the best image for the money with portability, usability and lenses. I was sure it was the ZF and I was done with Fuji but I've come to realise Fuji X is the best, for me. I shoot the XT3 and the f2 lenses for travel/documenting and f1.2 lenses for the special shots. Down the line I will get the GFX 50r and Mitakon 65mm f1.4 for the ultimate IQ. For what its worth, I think your images with the Fuji XT5 look better than the ones with the ZF. Fuji just has a way with the colours.
Yeah the GFX line looks eye watering, I also like the seeing the film simulations on Fuji. But the colors on the XT5 and the ZF as very similar if you correct the white balance, I made a video about it about a month ago. I also prefer the look or dynamic range of full frame but that’s my preference
@@gerardneedham yeah I saw that video. You and Mitch are two of my fav creators. I spent a lot of time in Oz when I was younger, some of my family live there also. The locations and vibe resonate with me. I nearly bought a ZF but the lens options held me back. 50r is about the same price second hand. I would love to see a deep dive between Fuji and Nikon images.
Not point lack of skill, far away from this. But to shoot in super bright days, with a new camera you didn't test in those conditions before is 100% challenging, but not the camera's fault I guess. I use mine with a non reflective protective screen, adjusted view finder (brighter than the standard) and it works perfectly. I also added a handle on mine, so the camera is absolute flawless.
Also, you can't compare a DSLR like lens adapted to a Zf with a tiny rangefinder lens on a M9, sorry mate I needed to point this one.
Yeah fully true, a optical view finder is as bright as you get 😅
I’m really just comparing the screen and evf to the XT5 and my Sony cameras, I just see a noticeable difference between them and the ZF
Push joystick to recenter focus point
The ZF has no joy stick 😅
@ jeeesh sorry, brain temporarily stopped working. I’ve been eyeing a Zf to complement my Z8 but haven’t purchased yet due to lack of a joystick and the screen.
Almost. Press 'Ok' button to re-centre the focus point. If you turn the LCD facing you, it can be used to quickly zoom the focus point around the frame, faster than a joystick in my opinion.. I don't need it moslty so I just use the Zf with the LCD closed.
Loved this video man! What's the name of the song starting at 6:40?
Z6 III brightens EVF on the market
Yeah I’m excited about using that camera next year shhhhhh 🤫 it’s a secret tho
This camera is made to slow down and enjoy photography so no joystick is needed!
Yeah I get that, but it would be helpful, just a small one
🤭
You are frustrated by the lack of a joystick😂.
Sorry mate, but come on, these things are not proof of any profound intelligence.
Do cameras need a joystick , no. Have you been able to get informed about the lack of this item in the Zf beforehand - yes, I would suppose😉
Yeah for me it’s a hassle ahahahah but if I could find a way of centering the focus point or have it locked in the center when I’m not tracking then I’ll be happy 😊
@gerardneedham when you push the OK button, the one in the middle of the pad that moves the focus point around, it centres the focus point.
You are skilled but clearly lack common sense by not being properly informed about the camera before putting out a review. I hope you make some money from the video but apart the pictures it is not worth much
Awesome shots! Agree with Zf shortcomings. I applaud Nikon for doing Zf but few pieces here and there needs polishing. I hope they will improve and release next iteration. Clearly they hit jackpot.
Yeah like they made a camera that looks like a real film camera, and made the internals awesome!
But I think the ZF 2 will be amazing, slightly smaller, better grip similar to the XT5, better evf and screen and maybe a bump in resolution (not that we need it ahahah)
I found that the same few photos appeared in several of your videos. Don’t you have more and better photos to show us? In addition, the viewfinder of each mirrorless camera can adjust the brightness. You didn’t know that there is such a function? If you feel it is too dark even when it is adjusted to the brightest, I think there is something wrong with your eyes and you need to get them checked. . .
Agree👍
No I have it on full brightness, my eyes are also good, well they work fine with the Fuji and Sony 😅
Also yeah I’ll use the photos in older and newer videos, that’s how I make videos. I also won’t apologise for that ahahah. I don’t watch many people who don’t do this
I think I'm a bit different from most. I don't care about retro design. I grew up on film cameras. One day (at least the first day I noticed ), a Canon camera came out with a grip on on it. Woohoo! go Canon I thought; best camera body ever! It was a beautiful thing. Thank God we don't have to use grip-less cameras anymore. Then slowly something strange started to happen. Scroll wheels and menu dives and LCD screens started replacing the shutter dial and aperture rings on lenses and I didn't like it. I still don't. I bought the Zf so I can change settings with dials rather than menus and scroll wheels and have some control over what I'm doing with a quick glance at the camera body. I'd love a thoroughly modern Z8 camera body with dials. I'm old enough to have grown up on retro cameras but I don't like them `per se'. The lack of a grip does not make me feel nostalgic, it just makes me feel like I'm going to drop my camera - lol!
I know all us old folks used to take photos without grips and AF and all the rest but man they were the bad old days not the good old days.
I find the smallrig grip is fine and I use my 135mm Plena and 70-200 mm telephoto on the Zf just as well as I do on the Z6ii and D850 DSLR
I think if dials don't do it for you from a functionality point of view I wouldn't keep it.
Can't really comment on Mathew's M9 as I've never handled one. But I did get to play with a Leica M-A in the Leica store in Chadstone and it was a beautiful thing.
I haven't noticed an issue with the screen so far but I'll pay more attention to it now
Great vid. Thanks.
dude, you whine too much lol and it's all ill founded. It's not like you have good points. It's just like what the hell are you talking about? You're missing photos because you don't understand the camera in and out. There's so many things that solve the problems you're stating. I'm not gonna go into them on a TH-cam comment. Because it's so comprehensive, but learn the camera bro