Had a guy go on a tantrum and go after my mortar. I think he must have actually damaged the shell inside because the mortar exploded after a couple of hits with a stun baton. I then got a reminder of why you don't store mortar shells next to something that can explode, as the tall shelf full of HE shells cooked off. The person I had coming to stop him got his jaw and both arms ripped off while the tantrumee was completely vaporized...
@@KokoplaysMB oh tbf, when I've got corpse obsession in the past, they've only ever dug up dead colonists. I didn't realise they did it with other bodies too
Berserk got a whole lot more dangerous! Now pawns can use weapons while Berserk, I was in deep shit when my melee level 20, biotech vampire with a masterwork persona zeushammer went berserk. Fortunately I had a psychic with calming thought, otherwise, I get the feeling *alot* of people were gonna die, instead of the 3 pawns who had their arms and legs turned into mist.
You can arrest them then remove their sleeping spot when you want to start taming. Animal in a cage but as long as you put food in there you can keep them alive until you can tame them.
In my experience the "murderous rage" one is mostly sad from a story telling perspective since often you can just arrest the person who is trying to kill the other person. Most of the time I even have the person who is about to be murdered arrest them the second they get close enough
I agree on most of these, but I'm going to disagree on the drugs. Maybe it's just because of personal hang ups, but I absolutely hate addiction. I hate my pawns being addicted, it really bothers me. Social drug binge isn't so bad, I'd put it at B because there's a very low chance of becoming addicted, but hard drug binge is an F for me.
Not to mention the likelihood of there being luciferium in storage. Someone touches that and its only a question of when they die. Characters with Chemical Fascinations or Lush are always F tier for me as they are always in a sour mood cause of course I'm not making any drugs. Not worth making anything for a permanent drunk or high pawn who is never capable of decent work.
I think my tier list would be very different. That's because I like to run a "work until collapse" colony which means my colonists get a lot of mental breaks and I have gotten very good at dealing with them. Most mental breaks will be interrupted if a colonist collapses from exhaustion. Also most breaks are relatively harmless if you wall off a pawn thanks to the skip + wall-raise combo. Mental breaks that can't be treated this way automatically get are much worst in that way. This means tantrums really suck and are probably worth casting word of serenity on. Run wild is definitely a huge pain in the ass. Given up is actually not that bad, they won't try to dig their way out of the wall they are stick in and the break doesn't last very long. Catatonic is a huge pain in the butt, I don't know of any decent way to heal this one. I guess at least the pawn will get some sleep. If you have biotech, most mental breaks can also be interrupted by sucking the blood of a pawn twice so they collapse from blood loss, although they won't get catharsis from this. Food binges and alcool are really trivial to deal with even without casting any psycasts, you can just setup a "trap" in dining table where you can quickly build a wood wall to lock the pawn off. In the case of targeted insult spree, then if all your pawn have low sleep (which is normal in a "work to exhaustion" colony) then you can tell everyone to go to sleep on the ground and it will stop the break since the won't be anybody for the broken pawn to attack, or you can bait the broken pawn into going through a hallway and quickly build wooden walls to trap them in. That last strategy also works with murderous rage. It's a good idea to keep an unfinished wooden wall at the entrance of your prison to prevent jailbreakers.
Never forget that if someone goes on a drug binge early in your colony, you can always form a caravan and have it take all your drugs just off map until the binge is over.
@@ABlueThing Last Straw: uncovered groin/chest. I actually got this one once on a refuge quest. Literly everyone turned against my coloni, only 5ish refuges
the others you can at least fight or attempt to prevent, catatonia however is just a instant fuck you lose this pawn for 4+ days at the minimum, ive had a pawn go comatose for legit 20+ days before, so while its not directly harmful or has a permanent possible loss like them leaveing like the other extremes, this one is unable to be combated in any way and is all the worse for it
I haven't had a go wild break in a very long time but I believe it's possible to capture wild people and attempt to tame them inside the cell, so it's not a huge deal to me. Sometimes I wish tranquilizer darts were a thing in rimworld for berserk breaks, but maybe that would make things to easy...
*You've forgotten to say that Focused Tantrums will ALWAYS target your most valuable item.* Yep, from 100k items, the game will check the most valuable stack or item, and WILL destroy it.
I really hate slaughterer break too.. once I bought farm animals so I only had one male and female and then one got killed for nothing so I can't reproduce them anymore and btw it would be cool an animal ranking :P
I'd argue that Fire Starting Spree is worse than it is for a few reasons: 1. As pyromaniacs can suffer this form of mental break at any time, it's the only mental break that a quality colony with all your pawns' needs satisfied can't prevent 2. The damage from this is variable from insignificant in a mountain base where everything's made of stone to highly problematic if the break triggers on someone just outside your chemfuel or mortar shell stockpiles. The absolute worst case scenario is you have an antigrain warhead and they decide to light it up. 3. If the pawn is a pyromaniac, they don't get catharsis when the break ends, which means a break due to low mood on them doesn't give the 2.5 day window that any other mental break does when it ends to fix things.
A little correction: fire starting spree is not the only one that can be triggered even if all needs are satisfied as gourmand pawns can go on food binges at random the same way pyromaniacs can go on fire starting sprees. Everything else is 100% correct however.
Food binge is a nice one. Get one pawn to form a caravan, pick up all the food in the colony, then dump one meal in the binging colonists bedroom. Start a wood or steel wall in front of the bedroom door but don't finish it. Then, when they go to eat the meal, finish the wall and trap them in there. Turns it in to a "hide in room break". They can deconstruct the wall when they're better.
Best way to deal with Run wild is to beat the colonist with melee pawns (without weapons) and after they pass out heal them. Almost always works but if it didnt try again :)
For berserk there are sorta 2 simple solutions (As in , simple to use . Simple to get they are not) from Royalty DLC. You can either use power that cancels mental breaks or combine wall raise and skip. You basically teleport berserked pawn to a corner or a hallway and lock it with temporary walls so its stuck. For run wild , Im pretty sure you can imprison them and just recruit(though its obviously takes a while and still annoying)
T5 androids are no joke, one of my colonists got into an insulting spree and got into a social fight with my T5; they proceeded to be obliterated from the torso up by a single punch I was left there flabbergasted to what just happened, my colonist a bloodied mess as my T5 went on with their day to day life
Ya the one where they just decide they're going to leave I think is the most ridiculous. So much so I've actually got a mod where if that one rolls they immediately get anastized so they are instantly forced out of trying to leave.
Corpse Obsession has been a mood cascade event for me in the past, and is now why I *always* cremate deceased colonists. Having someone drag a corpse into the dining hall hits EVERYONE hard.
The targeted insulting spree is s tier man. Draft the colonist being targeted and force them to move away from the pawn insulting as soon as it starts. They will only get 1 or 2 insults before the break ends. You can also unassign a room if someone is hiding in room or doing a tantrum in their room. Ends those breaks in seconds.
I had a child go berserk and try to fight my melee Neanderthal who had a legendary plasteel longsword...... with one swing the childs head left arm and right are were all removed. I love this game
wait, what happened to the mental break where the pawn retreats to the wilderness and hunts? It was a lesser version of Run Wild, like a combination of Sad Wanderer and Slaughter (only hunting wild animals instead). The pawn doesn't strip down. It's more like a Thoreau reaction, retreating to a cabin in the woods. Was this removed?
Once one of my colonists decided it would be fun and unwinding to punch a stack of 2 anti-grain warheads. In the middle of my main storage. With other people there. 3 people died but the perpetrator only lost both legs and an arm. Left one. I'd like to think they were right-handed too.
I would put Hide in Room in F tier, but only because I was doing everything right in my last colony, when a psychic drone forced my mechanitor to hide in her room just as a neanderthal raid came and wrecked my whole base.
@@KokoplaysMB Touche friend. The thing that bothers me about both is the duration. These mental breaks seem to take forever. I prefer berserk, purely because even hurt pawns can still be controlled. With a lot of these breaks, you essentially lose a pawn for a few days.
ill say the worst is slaughterer since i like to tame animals, the only defense is havig a bunch of tamed rats near you (restricted from important food) which can distract raiders and give you a better change for the slaughter to target a rat rather than a bloomaloupe, i think the worst idiot combo you can do is set a boomaloup/boomrat/toxaloupe/etc on slaughter instesd of drafting the ranger and shoot it
Just keep them addicted and you're good, drugs give them many nice buffs. Or if you want to get rid of addiction just take off their legs and keep them in bed until their withdrawal is gone.
@@KokoplaysMB Ya but there's tolerance, making the drugs practically useless at some point, and it's better to take out their spine for the time being, but withdrawals last forever and your pawn's outta the game for like 12 days
step 1: put lots a prisoners in the worst prison cell step 2: let them have a mental break so they go berserk and fight eachother profit: they are always injured and prison breaks rarely happen
I disagree on targeted insulting spree. If you order the targeted colonist to run round in big circles, I find the insulting colonist gets bored very quickly and stops their break.
If you do that it still interrupts their work, but you're right it does help. It can be quite a lot to micromanage if you're trying to work on something else at the same time or you're being raided.
Most of the time when they do break i select all non melee pawns and beat the shit out of the one having the break, the only breaks i accept are, daze, sad wander, catatonic, hide in room, food binge (easy to deal with, just block the door where your food is stored and open it when your colonists need food or when hes done). If they do start a tantrum, insulting or something more stupid, they will get humbled by a... not iron fist... cause we got no iron fists... need to check mods... but by a iron/wooden gun handle. Yeah sure it takes more time when they are in a hospital, but i like to think they learned their lesson, if not, i found an iron fist mod Edit: run wild is never a problem cause for some reason most of the enemy pawns i wound and try to recruit are very good with animals and decent with plants for some reason :/ 2nd edit: i very rarely have melee pawns, so i barely have problems with them going beserks cause i only go mele middle game.
This is definitely a tier list that I would've never ever thought about in my life. XD Pretty much absolutely agree with these except I'd probably move the corpse obsession down to A tier 'cause usually I only bury colonists so then it makes everyone sad that a colonist is unburied and they usually bring them to the dining table where everyone gets a "saw rotting corpse" debuff. Not terrible but still disruptive. Well played!
catatonic breakdown, especially when i see pathetic shit as the final straw, is just infuriating yeah I'm so sorry that your rivals are alive, that doesn't mean you have to literally go into a coma for 8 days straight!!
for me all mental breaks are good as it is punishable by death or they get inslaved and the least bad punishment is getting put inside a mental asylum made out of the worst materials
I totally agree with this list the only disagrement comes probably from our different playstyle. I always keep many animals so have people with high animal skill so i dont really care if people go wild can just retame them quickly and slaughterer is really situational if you have plenty it's low chance it's gonna go after something important however one time i had to beat a person down cuz of this.
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My 17 melee Tough Brawler with Persona Plasmasword and Recon armor went berserk. He downed everyone including combat animals.
Fun :D
This is why I unequip my pawns
So you basically had the Doom Marine rampaging In your base with access to all areas
You’re lucky it wasn’t a Zeushammer… it is basically guaranteed a limb from a human pawn is obliterated, if not even a one shot to the torso or head.
Why did he do it
Had a guy go on a tantrum and go after my mortar. I think he must have actually damaged the shell inside because the mortar exploded after a couple of hits with a stun baton.
I then got a reminder of why you don't store mortar shells next to something that can explode, as the tall shelf full of HE shells cooked off.
The person I had coming to stop him got his jaw and both arms ripped off while the tantrumee was completely vaporized...
You'd think I would learn, but I've seen this happen more than once :D
Food Binge can be bad, if it is on a map with insects in caves. Then the colonist might go for the insect jelly and die.
Corpse obsession also causes the "colonist left unburied" mood debuff, but I agree its still S tier
Only if they actually pick up a dead colonist.
@@KokoplaysMB oh tbf, when I've got corpse obsession in the past, they've only ever dug up dead colonists. I didn't realise they did it with other bodies too
Berserk got a whole lot more dangerous!
Now pawns can use weapons while Berserk, I was in deep shit when my melee level 20, biotech vampire with a masterwork persona zeushammer went berserk.
Fortunately I had a psychic with calming thought, otherwise, I get the feeling *alot* of people were gonna die, instead of the 3 pawns who had their arms and legs turned into mist.
"Four Eye having a tantrum
She going to destroy 2 Nuclear Warhead"
Thanks Randy
RIP
my colony leader just run wild and died in a day for an infection - "il tame him tomorrow" was a not good enough plan - totally agree on F tier
It is the wurst
You can arrest them then remove their sleeping spot when you want to start taming. Animal in a cage but as long as you put food in there you can keep them alive until you can tame them.
In my experience the "murderous rage" one is mostly sad from a story telling perspective since often you can just arrest the person who is trying to kill the other person. Most of the time I even have the person who is about to be murdered arrest them the second they get close enough
I agree on most of these, but I'm going to disagree on the drugs. Maybe it's just because of personal hang ups, but I absolutely hate addiction. I hate my pawns being addicted, it really bothers me.
Social drug binge isn't so bad, I'd put it at B because there's a very low chance of becoming addicted, but hard drug binge is an F for me.
That is reasonable
Not to mention the likelihood of there being luciferium in storage.
Someone touches that and its only a question of when they die.
Characters with Chemical Fascinations or Lush are always F tier for me as they are always in a sour mood cause of course I'm not making any drugs.
Not worth making anything for a permanent drunk or high pawn who is never capable of decent work.
I think my tier list would be very different. That's because I like to run a "work until collapse" colony which means my colonists get a lot of mental breaks and I have gotten very good at dealing with them. Most mental breaks will be interrupted if a colonist collapses from exhaustion. Also most breaks are relatively harmless if you wall off a pawn thanks to the skip + wall-raise combo. Mental breaks that can't be treated this way automatically get are much worst in that way. This means tantrums really suck and are probably worth casting word of serenity on. Run wild is definitely a huge pain in the ass. Given up is actually not that bad, they won't try to dig their way out of the wall they are stick in and the break doesn't last very long. Catatonic is a huge pain in the butt, I don't know of any decent way to heal this one. I guess at least the pawn will get some sleep. If you have biotech, most mental breaks can also be interrupted by sucking the blood of a pawn twice so they collapse from blood loss, although they won't get catharsis from this. Food binges and alcool are really trivial to deal with even without casting any psycasts, you can just setup a "trap" in dining table where you can quickly build a wood wall to lock the pawn off. In the case of targeted insult spree, then if all your pawn have low sleep (which is normal in a "work to exhaustion" colony) then you can tell everyone to go to sleep on the ground and it will stop the break since the won't be anybody for the broken pawn to attack, or you can bait the broken pawn into going through a hallway and quickly build wooden walls to trap them in. That last strategy also works with murderous rage. It's a good idea to keep an unfinished wooden wall at the entrance of your prison to prevent jailbreakers.
Never forget that if someone goes on a drug binge early in your colony, you can always form a caravan and have it take all your drugs just off map until the binge is over.
Tantrum with breach axe equipped = F@#%ed Tier
Oh no..
"So, my colonist ate without a table, what now?"
Ate without table does not cause mental breakdowns. The last straw is always something more serious
@@rickysmythLast straw: Slept in the heat
@@ABlueThing Last Straw: uncovered groin/chest.
I actually got this one once on a refuge quest. Literly everyone turned against my coloni, only 5ish refuges
Eating without a table is a war crime
@@KokoplaysMB It's something worse than that , War crimes are an everyday thing in RimWorld
Out of the extreme metal breaks Catatonia is probability the best one.
It lasts forever though
the others you can at least fight or attempt to prevent, catatonia however is just a instant fuck you lose this pawn for 4+ days at the minimum, ive had a pawn go comatose for legit 20+ days before, so while its not directly harmful or has a permanent possible loss like them leaveing like the other extremes, this one is unable to be combated in any way and is all the worse for it
if you have ideology you can get the "crisis of belief" break which i find more often than not is actually helpful
I haven't had a go wild break in a very long time but I believe it's possible to capture wild people and attempt to tame them inside the cell, so it's not a huge deal to me.
Sometimes I wish tranquilizer darts were a thing in rimworld for berserk breaks, but maybe that would make things to easy...
yep
there is one it's called a psychic shock lance. there is a slight risk of brain damage though
*You've forgotten to say that Focused Tantrums will ALWAYS target your most valuable item.*
Yep, from 100k items, the game will check the most valuable stack or item, and WILL destroy it.
I really hate slaughterer break too.. once I bought farm animals so I only had one male and female and then one got killed for nothing so I can't reproduce them anymore and btw it would be cool an animal ranking :P
Animal ranking coming soon™
I'd argue that Fire Starting Spree is worse than it is for a few reasons:
1. As pyromaniacs can suffer this form of mental break at any time, it's the only mental break that a quality colony with all your pawns' needs satisfied can't prevent
2. The damage from this is variable from insignificant in a mountain base where everything's made of stone to highly problematic if the break triggers on someone just outside your chemfuel or mortar shell stockpiles. The absolute worst case scenario is you have an antigrain warhead and they decide to light it up.
3. If the pawn is a pyromaniac, they don't get catharsis when the break ends, which means a break due to low mood on them doesn't give the 2.5 day window that any other mental break does when it ends to fix things.
A little correction: fire starting spree is not the only one that can be triggered even if all needs are satisfied as gourmand pawns can go on food binges at random the same way pyromaniacs can go on fire starting sprees. Everything else is 100% correct however.
I put insulting spree into S tier since you can just schedule all of your colonists to sleep, and the mental break will stop. EZ catharsis.
That is a lot of wasted time though
Fire starting spree is extremely easy to deal with, provided you have a drafted pawn stand next to them to instantly extinguish fire.
True
I think he said that in the video
Food binge is a nice one. Get one pawn to form a caravan, pick up all the food in the colony, then dump one meal in the binging colonists bedroom. Start a wood or steel wall in front of the bedroom door but don't finish it. Then, when they go to eat the meal, finish the wall and trap them in there. Turns it in to a "hide in room break". They can deconstruct the wall when they're better.
By the time you do all that, food binge person will already be done. Really not worth it.
Best way to deal with Run wild is to beat the colonist with melee pawns (without weapons) and after they pass out heal them. Almost always works but if it didnt try again :)
One time I had two colonists insult each other for two hours
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For berserk there are sorta 2 simple solutions (As in , simple to use . Simple to get they are not) from Royalty DLC. You can either use power that cancels mental breaks or combine wall raise and skip. You basically teleport berserked pawn to a corner or a hallway and lock it with temporary walls so its stuck.
For run wild , Im pretty sure you can imprison them and just recruit(though its obviously takes a while and still annoying)
no, when you imprison them, you don't have the recruit option, you need to tame
T5 androids are no joke, one of my colonists got into an insulting spree and got into a social fight with my T5; they proceeded to be obliterated from the torso up by a single punch
I was left there flabbergasted to what just happened, my colonist a bloodied mess as my T5 went on with their day to day life
Literally picked a fight with a Terminator
Ya the one where they just decide they're going to leave I think is the most ridiculous. So much so I've actually got a mod where if that one rolls they immediately get anastized so they are instantly forced out of trying to leave.
Corpse Obsession has been a mood cascade event for me in the past, and is now why I *always* cremate deceased colonists. Having someone drag a corpse into the dining hall hits EVERYONE hard.
The targeted insulting spree is s tier man. Draft the colonist being targeted and force them to move away from the pawn insulting as soon as it starts. They will only get 1 or 2 insults before the break ends. You can also unassign a room if someone is hiding in room or doing a tantrum in their room. Ends those breaks in seconds.
Once one of my colonists went berserk and fought our war casket and immediately got his head chopped off
Nice! :D
I had a child go berserk and try to fight my melee Neanderthal who had a legendary plasteel longsword...... with one swing the childs head left arm and right are were all removed. I love this game
wait, what happened to the mental break where the pawn retreats to the wilderness and hunts? It was a lesser version of Run Wild, like a combination of Sad Wanderer and Slaughter (only hunting wild animals instead). The pawn doesn't strip down. It's more like a Thoreau reaction, retreating to a cabin in the woods. Was this removed?
Are you sure that wasn't part of a mod? I've been playing RimWorld for over 8 years and I've never seen that one.
@@KokoplaysMB hmmm, I suppose it could be, though I'm not sure which one. I haven't seen it for some time.
Once one of my colonists decided it would be fun and unwinding to punch a stack of 2 anti-grain warheads. In the middle of my main storage. With other people there.
3 people died but the perpetrator only lost both legs and an arm. Left one. I'd like to think they were right-handed too.
Beautiful
I hate tantrums after i had a colonist destroy my excellent silver poker table.
I like catatonic when stopping addictions
I would put Hide in Room in F tier, but only because I was doing everything right in my last colony, when a psychic drone forced my mechanitor to hide in her room just as a neanderthal raid came and wrecked my whole base.
So you'd rather she went catatonic?
@@KokoplaysMB Touche friend. The thing that bothers me about both is the duration. These mental breaks seem to take forever. I prefer berserk, purely because even hurt pawns can still be controlled. With a lot of these breaks, you essentially lose a pawn for a few days.
ill say the worst is slaughterer since i like to tame animals, the only defense is havig a bunch of tamed rats near you (restricted from important food) which can distract raiders and give you a better change for the slaughter to target a rat rather than a bloomaloupe, i think the worst idiot combo you can do is set a boomaloup/boomrat/toxaloupe/etc on slaughter instesd of drafting the ranger and shoot it
Bro drug binges are insanely bad, it gets people addicted, and then you gotta deal with withdrawals.
Just keep them addicted and you're good, drugs give them many nice buffs. Or if you want to get rid of addiction just take off their legs and keep them in bed until their withdrawal is gone.
@@KokoplaysMB Ya but there's tolerance, making the drugs practically useless at some point, and it's better to take out their spine for the time being, but withdrawals last forever and your pawn's outta the game for like 12 days
step 1: put lots a prisoners in the worst prison cell
step 2: let them have a mental break so they go berserk and fight eachother
profit: they are always injured and prison breaks rarely happen
I disagree on targeted insulting spree. If you order the targeted colonist to run round in big circles, I find the insulting colonist gets bored very quickly and stops their break.
If you do that it still interrupts their work, but you're right it does help. It can be quite a lot to micromanage if you're trying to work on something else at the same time or you're being raided.
Food binge is all fun and games, until your early game colonist decides they want to binge on insect jelly straight from the nest 🤣🥲
That is always fun :D
No way corpse obsession is an s the dee buff to non buried colonist -10 mood buff on everyone + rotten corpse way worse
You could just cremate them
I never had "Given up" mental break :O
Lucky you
catatonic is a tier due to every other extreme break option
at least they arent killing every animal in the colony or leaving
Most of the time when they do break i select all non melee pawns and beat the shit out of the one having the break, the only breaks i accept are, daze, sad wander, catatonic, hide in room, food binge (easy to deal with, just block the door where your food is stored and open it when your colonists need food or when hes done).
If they do start a tantrum, insulting or something more stupid, they will get humbled by a... not iron fist... cause we got no iron fists... need to check mods... but by a iron/wooden gun handle. Yeah sure it takes more time when they are in a hospital, but i like to think they learned their lesson, if not, i found an iron fist mod
Edit: run wild is never a problem cause for some reason most of the enemy pawns i wound and try to recruit are very good with animals and decent with plants for some reason :/
2nd edit: i very rarely have melee pawns, so i barely have problems with them going beserks cause i only go mele middle game.
This is definitely a tier list that I would've never ever thought about in my life. XD Pretty much absolutely agree with these except I'd probably move the corpse obsession down to A tier 'cause usually I only bury colonists so then it makes everyone sad that a colonist is unburied and they usually bring them to the dining table where everyone gets a "saw rotting corpse" debuff. Not terrible but still disruptive. Well played!
It was a fun list to make
catatonic breakdown, especially when i see pathetic shit as the final straw, is just infuriating
yeah I'm so sorry that your rivals are alive, that doesn't mean you have to literally go into a coma for 8 days straight!!
This is the way
13:05 An innocent animal of my property*
xD
Details :D
@@KokoplaysMB Wild animals are still animals 😭😭😭 (dw I know is a game, I know you woudn't sell organs irl)
Found another fellow eu4 connoisseur.
Such a good game... I've not played it in way too long
for me all mental breaks are good as it is punishable by death or they get inslaved and the least bad punishment is getting put inside a mental asylum made out of the worst materials
catatonic = you get your organs harvested
Sad wander and Daze are the same as catatonic if you choose a starting scenario with only one pawn besides being slightly shorter than catatonic
They are much much shorter than catatonic
first B)
I totally agree with this list the only disagrement comes probably from our different playstyle. I always keep many animals so have people with high animal skill so i dont really care if people go wild can just retame them quickly and slaughterer is really situational if you have plenty it's low chance it's gonna go after something important however one time i had to beat a person down cuz of this.
I enjoyed animals a lot more before the pen update tbh
@@KokoplaysMB Oh i understand the pen is quite a hassle sometimes
Slaughterer is all fun and games until they chase down your tamed Thrumbo!