I ACTUALLY Off-Road My Range Rover Sport: Here's Everything That Broke Over The Last 100,000 KM!
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TFL Team thanks for having me back on the channel! Much love!
fun video, definitely driven
Just subbed to your channel. Been thinking of replacing my WK2 with one of these, but in the air on having a third row of seats.
@@jrmbtr I was considering the WK2 back when I got this one. Both very capable vehicles but man oh man Jeep can’t compare to Land Rover when it comes to drivability and how the vehicles are built for the drivers and passengers comforts. It’s all the little things in them that really set them apart if that makes sense
@@DrivenHard I don’t really see any off-road time (nothing around here), but as I get older I prefer the nicer things. And the Jeep dealer network for “premium” vehicles is seriously lacking.
@@jrmbtr I drove Jeep(s) in my youth. But no longer. IF I could afford the $ of the LRD's I would bump up to them. But I just cannot get past the practical/reliable factor of what Toyota's offer. Plenty comfy for me at this stage. My service bill is minimal and my repair bill is nonexistent.
love the honest feedback/ review. As a 4runner and a wrangler owner, I applaud your choice. Not everything needs to be built to crawl rocks. Love the premium interior and confident driving dynamics. While my jeep is awesome once off the tarmac, carving canyons is on top of my wishlist. Anything that gives you daily comfort for your use and as long as you love it that's awesome. No hate. The community needs to chill and let people enjoy choices.
Can we please pin this comment 🙏🏾.
Well said man!
@@DrivenHard LOL Hey, I have come back and figured there would be a fair share of .. hard honest opinions against your choice. But that does not mean your choice is wrong for you. I respect your choice. IF I could afford the $ of an LRD and justify the ownership costs, I would take one in a heartbeat. They are very capable machines. They have a great deal of luxury and premium materials to enjoy. Ride quality is nothing to put your nose up in the air about either. In fact, it was LRD's abilities that set me in search of a vehicle with it's abilities. Just not in that price range or track record of maintenance requirements. Had a friend whom bought an LRD(used)and spent 5 times the purchase cost on repairs and maintenance in 2 years time before he finally had had a enough draining his wallet. Was a terrific ride. Just not cost effective to own for the poor. lol
@@WW-wf8tu ya out of warranty I’m sure would be a very different story lol 😂
Wow ! If I ever meet ya the drink is on me !! So well said. ( p400 owner )
@@DrivenHard love your channel! I off road a 2021 X5 45e with the off road package that many probably don’t know they offer. Seeing your videos are so awesome and inspiring please keep making them!
This guy should get some kind of incentive from the manufacturer - he basically tested the car in real life and gave honest review
“Haven’t really had too many issue” proceeds to list issues over the next 7 minutes 😂😂
Seems like a great dude and he really does wheel it hard so kudos.
Thanks Hunter
I think that the issues he is stating are those caused by him.... keep in ming that all modern cars nowadays always come with some type of faulty thing, that is why recalls are becoming increasingly common. there is a video of a dude with the latest tundra whose turbos not only stopped working, but the engine needs to be replace and that is a Toyota. Now this is a Land Rover with over 60.000 miles on it.
I have the same exact Range Rover Sport and a Land Rover Discovery Sport both R Dynanic’s and I use them mostly around LA and up and down the coast and all I’ve had to do is regular oil changes. Driving habits are going to make every owners experience different.
This guy is the 1%
The 1% who off-road these vehicles!
Seriously, great job keep up the good work
Thanks Jonathan
He must be a Land Rover salesman… I like how he listed the dozen fixes and replacements with ease and excitement, I almost wanted one!
Your definition of a dozen must be different than 12.
@@rl9810 oh, yes it is 😂
@@rl9810 4 windshields alone lol.
And 3 starters, not to mention the sway arm bushings. No doubt he hit a dozen repairs..
@@alanj7306 I mean the starter failure was his fault twice and the third time was a defect so I wouldn’t really call that Land Rovers problem
I was a sales manager at a Land Rover and I was amazed how much owners would buy again and again. He’s right don’t buy into the hate.
Thanks Michael
Well yeah when you want a luxury SUV, you don't really have many other options imo. Even more so if it needs to be somewhat capable.
I love buddy's passion, and the fact that he actually gets out and beats his ride. Great vid!
Thanks, Patrick!
Agree, I bet less than 2% of RRS owners wheel their rig as hard. It’s designed for it so love that he gets after it.
I really enjoyed this video. I’m a Defender p400 owner myself. You nailed it. Life’s too short to drive a boring car ! Work hard and play hard and enjoy!
100% man!
As an LR4 owner, I agree. I wheel and have modified mine and have had very few problems. Owned mine for over 6 years and am sitting at over 110k miles now, and laugh every time the Toyota owners chime in on a Land Rover video with "things they've heard from others who heard" so they can feel better about owning boring vehicles.
Well said RL!
100% Agree! 167k miles on my LR3. Everything works as it should and I love it more every day
I beat the crap out of my LR3 240k every day and still strong. Peace ✌️
Cant be understated that no vehicle on earth is free from issues so at the end of the day get what you like, enjoy it and ignore the haters. The haters are always the ones who bought the one they thought was a safe choice and they need to justify that choice by trying to make others feel they made the wrong choice. Love this video and the messege it sends, and love the Rover too, looks like a ton of fun.
Thank you Cody!
No vehicle is free of issues? My parents had 6 VWs since 99, not one needed warranty to be used or anything replaced ever. All had 300k km at least and then second owner used them
Most cars are completely problem free
@@Brian-jv8iy what I mean is no vehicle is without compromise and no vehicle is free from criticism. My family currently has 2 Jettas, 2 Golfs and 2 Touaregs, just sold my Passat...have had a dozen over the years, I know them very well and love them very much but can easily find ways to criticize them but that's missing the point of buy what you like and ignore the critics.
As a fellow Range Rover Sport owner who takes it every where - you summarised the vehicle perfectly - a superb vehicle with a few niggles, but nothing you would kick it out of bed for.
Yup!
Fantastic stuff
Such a great and honest review
He drives it hard
It has a tune
He goes off road etc
LR dealers have given him great service etc and looked after him
If u use ANY vehicle off road a lot, then of course the vehicle is getting more wear in those tougher conditions.
And he is so correct when he says
U only live once
Buy a car u really want and like
Enjoy it
Kudos to this guy
👍👍
100% Stephen!
@@DrivenHard
Thanks
I’ve just subscribed to your TH-cam and Insta
BTW
I’m ex Auto Trade
A lot of time & experience with JLR product.
I’m a massive fan of all JLR product.
Your RR Sport looks fantastic
👍👍
Great honest review! your comments at the end really hit home, ignore the haters - agreed, know what you are getting into - absolutely, and that feeling you get every time you climb in. I get that same feeling every time I climb into my LR3. I absolutely love my Land Rover. The character these vehicles have is second to none. I hope you continue to enjoy yours for years to come!
I just love British vehicles, my first love was the E Type Jag, then MG’s Triumphs McLaren’s and of course Range Rovers, won’t ever be well off enough to own a new one or afford repairs on a used one, but I can dream. Great video, seems like a great person!!!
Appreciate Poppy
Some of my favorite REAL LIFE video accounts of their true experiences with their vehicles!
Love how you've been actually driving this! Can't say it's the be-all end-all vehicle for carving through mountain roads though...
Yeah, he said that and I thought, "Have...have you driven a sports car?" I mean, even a Miata would probably be more fun than that on very curvy roads.
@@LanguagesWithAndrew yeah I almost put Miata in my original comment lol
Full size Range Rover is though, sport alway was the wannabe full size.
@@Brian-jv8iy no, a fullsize range Rover is not for canyon carving lol
This guy is great. Terrific personality for youtube. U guys should try to work him in more often somehow.
Sharp vehicle in red. Don't think I've ever seen a Rover in anything other than white, black and silver. Kudos for being bold with the color.
Yes!! I agreed. Not a fan of those other colors, too common and too boring IMO
I love how you mention ignore the hate at the end. As of me writing this comment, the only other comments are hate. I like these segments TFL keep them coming.
haha I knew what I was getting into coming back on the channel. For some reason people like hating on things others like to enjoy! I mean, I am not a fan of VW's but I recognize the fact tons of people love them and buy them. It's all good, I thought we were all car enthusiasts at the end of the day
@@DrivenHard I think these products are great as long as they are either new with warranty, or old with miles and CHEAP. I’m on my second 2013 LR4 personally and love it. 166k miles and going strong. Just swapped out the air for coils and have new tires in the back of my truck for it now. I got it for 14k$ from a enthusiast that took care of it and hope to get another 100k miles out of it. It still looks new and looks like I spent 70k$ on it.
@@thinde88 that’s awesome man. How’s the ride after the swap to coils. Did you notice a big difference?
@@DrivenHard Not much difference so far. I go off road frequently and am hoping it will actually be a smoother ride with the coil lift vs running the air suspension in the raised position but we will see.
@@thinde88 air suspension in the highest setting is anything but comfortable 🤣
Love the color combo and solid advice on a proper extended warranty on such a vehicle. Remember this is a unique vehicle in terms of on road driving dynamics and off road ability. Something like a 4runner is a total bore on road, where they spend 99.9% of the time.
Why wouldn’t you link his driven hard TH-cam channel??
It’s their call. I never requested or expected them too. This was about coming full circle for their viewers and bring some new And different content to their chancel
Great real world review by an ACTUAL LR owner. The haters are mostly uninformed dudes who never drove/owned and who just recite LR lore from back in the day when the Rangies (2nd gen, looking at you) actually did suck. I've had an Evoque and then a Discovery Sport that were super reliable and never got me stranded. On top of that they have pretty much the nicest designed interiors for my taste, are super excellent, comfy road tripping cars and its really, really hard to get them stuck unless you're hard core rock crawl off roading. I'm ready to get my next one, but for me it has to be electric and it looks like LR is missing the boat BIG TIME on electrification, otherwise I would already have a Defender in my garage. Maybe the R1S might fit the bill, if it ever becomes available.
Showing LOVE for my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE CHANNEL PERIOD Thank You and have a Blessed day y'all
I love people that actually use their cars like this.
I’ve just picked one of these up last month, love it so far. Replaced a beat up pickup truck and a Mercedes CL500 with the one car - no regrets. It does most things both those vehicles did, only better.
I live in the Aussie bush. My 09 tdv8 off roads every day. Water in times of flood often over the bonnet crossing my creek. She has a hard life, lotsa dirt n pot holes. No more problems than any other 4x4 ive owned. Ive ownwed just about all makes over time. Yep they can be infuriting at times. I own an iiD scan tool run off my phone. Saved me a fortune so far. Do most of my repairs etc and change my oil ever 6 or 7 thousand kms and let the engine run when stopped to cool the twin turbos. Love my Rangey , but like a good woman she lets you know when you disrespect her. Nice review mate. Liked the bit about the missus being peeved about costs. I just stopped informing mine. No more spousal issues.
Solid review bru.
Small detail but I love the placement of the gesture tailgate sensor as well. Added benefit Is that it seems to work nearly 100% of the time whereas my old bmw was hit and miss.
this is awesome!!! nice to see it being used properly!
I enjoyed the honesty of this video! I love my Range Rover l405 with warranty of coarse! They are amazing cars that will put a smile on your face when you punch it off the line or go off-road (v8 supercharged). I work for a luxury Japanese brand that is considered reliable by “society standards” but those cars don’t do anything for me and yes they do break like every car out there does just depends on how much you want to spend on proper maintenance and repair! Loved the video on someone who really drives their Range Rover properly!
Now you know why people lease cars. Lower payments and no worry about maintenance. Perfect example for Audi, BMW, MB, Land Rover leases.
Not all maintenance are covered on Lease. At less than 5000km VW said rotors are warped. Pay for it $800. I did not change it and now at 30k kms...drives perfect😝😝😝😝
Facts!
Life’s too short to be driving boring cars…
I had a Chevy service guy give me a bunch of BS(similar to what you say you were getting from LR) when the transmission failed in less than 30K on a 2006 Trailblazer SS and they would NOT cover it under warranty. Needless to say be weary of the BS fed to you. ;) A lot of manufacturers are notorious for feeding people BS in order to(try)convince you your bad experiences are normal.
appreciate that man! IF it happens again, I'll fight harder for it.
This is the only Range Rover sport that a second owner has to be wary about
The only? Are you implying no other RRS gets thrashed on? Or that no RRS lives past the 1st owner? lol
that interior is NICE!
Love the color and the wheels.
Thanks. In the process of getting them refinished. They haven't been treated very well
good review video
We love our 2021 Range Rover Sport. Just a great road trip vehicle, super comfortable, smooth, powerful and plenty capable off-road.
Great review, appreciate the tips and your excitement for your vehicle. Ignoring the hate!
I remember this a while ago. Cool to see him back on
Best review of a range rover I've seen lol
We have 6 Rovers, 3 RR, 2 RRS & 1 LR3 and absolutely love everyone of them, but only 1 has had that weird grinding noise when turning, we ended up changing/flushing the transfer case fluid and have not had any issues, so that’s what I would try to solve that issue.
Cool rig, nice color.
Thanks
Dude skipped leg day on his body and Range Rover Sport. Get some bigger tires and some Johnson Rods. Beef it up man.
Excellent video! Did I miss it, what is the extended warranty info?
Thanks in advance!
I have had the same weird issue turning on uneven ground in 2 of my 3 Sport's. In my 2014 V8 AB a new diff cured it. In my 2020 V8 AB, they've refused to take it that far to cure it. My SVR didn't have the same issue. I'm told by a tech that he thinks its either the diff or a clutch in the transfer case slipping.
Try changing/flushing the transfer case fluid usually that helps without having to replace the transfer case, ours started doing it and took it into my deal that’s what they suggested and it was fixed, I also think there was a TSB for this issue a while back, but some full sizes and sports still have it.
@@jordani6182 They've done it once and it only fixes it temporarily.
A guy that talks sense that what I like, these get crapped on by people but they are such great vehicles to drive. Like you said if you go off roaring expect things to go wrong, most work horse vehicles go wrong
$1200. for a starter, I'm out!
For a car of that age and mileage thats a shxt load of warranty work on the car shocking in my opinion.
You need to see how its driven to understand why I wear things out so fast.
Well, at least someone takes it off-roading. BTW, he looks and sounds like former Mr Olympia Phil Heath.
Well said 👍
All winding roads are fun as long as there is no one in front of you driving below speed limit
This guy rules
Hahahaja thanks Ben
They all think it makes 600hp and it pushes you back into the seat until a tuned subaru gaps the living crap out of them then they start asking questions 🤣
then again until you sit in a Tesla 😂
The only times I ever see a Subaru is in the rear view mirror of my 600hp beast.
looks awesome....
Well at least it not a video of "my long term review of car that I only drove 1k miles in".
My friend has a 2019 Soport HST. He loves it but scared to mile it up lol. Hasn’t even hit 30k yet
I love my 2012 RRS LUX she is a dream . Haters just cant afford it
It's not broken, it's British!
Hey man, did you upgrade your fuel pump for the tune?
Well, as long as he’s happy with it. It’s not something I would want and I’d be pretty pissed to pay that much money and then have so many problems. But it’s not my money. Best advice he had was to maintain a warranty. Smart move.
This car is a beast "on the road"
Don’t think a 4Runner needs an extended warranty. I didn’t get one for mine.
Its a gamble, but I'm lean towards the EW side. I got one on my computer, and it broke a month after the manufacture's warranty expired. Dell replaced it with a brand new one that was year newer.
Of course, a warranty is only as good as the manufacture or second-party provides.
"What problems, what's broken, what nightmares I've had with her? Honestly not a ton"
- 2x starter motors have already been replaced (he's on his 3rd starter motor now)
- Front end/sway bars bushings keeps wearing out every 12k miles
- Squeaking noise when turning left that is unfixable. 10K USD worth of suspension parts were used to treat the problem yet the issue remains
- Issues with fuel system
- Brake system leak/vacuum leak
- Windshield has been replaced 3x times. Current windshield already has a big crack
His Range Rover is a 2020 model year.
His excuse: "i dRiVe It HaRdd DuUuRr!"
A purpose built off-roader is supposed to handle driven hard off-road. That's the whole point of an off-roader. And then the audacity to compare his RR to a Land Cruiser.
This is why people make fun of Land Rover online because the reality is they are not built to last. My parent's 80-series LC is 30 years old now and with over 500,000 KM. You wanna know what broke on it? Nothing. And it's used daily on my family's farm.
Comparing a 30 year old car to a new one 🤦🏾♂️
30 yrs old Washing Machine at a Commercial Laundry with 500k normal cycle wash must be the best thing ever
I've always liked Land Rover, more power to those who can afford a luxury vehicle like this. About the only thing I can think of when it comes to the noise you described is a cab/body mount but isn't yours a unibody instead of body on frame?
My LR2 and LR4 have been eating em alice. Just the Alternator for LR2, $2,500!
Tommy is never going to recover from this
$1,200 for a starter
That was from Factory. They go for about $600 - $700 when you don't buy from the dealership
I should have mentioned that
Starter is made by Denso; same manufacturer that makes starters for many other vehicles, including Toyota and Honda. Just searching online, looks like the starter is $400 USD. He's Canadian, so he paid about $530 in labor. It's also an easy DIY job, unlike a 200 series Land Cruiser.
@@rl9810 that’s awesome info. Thanks for that
@@rl9810 its easy DIY because youll need one changed often.
100%. Well said.
That starter motor sounds like it shocks have a snorkel or something. They’re meant to go through water?!?
What brand of tires do you have on there?
13:50 compared the reliability of this to the Toyota Land Cruiser. Cute 😆
no, I didn't. Watch it again.
@@DrivenHard tell me if I’m wrong, but you’re saying you’d drive the heck out of a Land Cruiser and it would also be in the shop.
@@atmartens ya. I tend to break what I get my hands on. It (land cruiser) would be in the shop less often but it ain’t bullet proof 😂
@@DrivenHard makes sense lol. At least you acknowledge that.
Imagine trying to compare a boring ass land cruiser with barely 300 HP to a 600 HP luxury SUV. Let's throw 600 hp at that stock LC engine and see how long that long block lasts 😂
Windshield-------Chassis flex
If you drove your vehicle fording a stream or any body of water in which the water depth was in excess of Land Rover’s recommended maximum depth and the starting motor malfunctioned then I understand why you would pay for a new starter. However, if the water depth was within the fording depths approved by Land Rover then the starting motor should not fail.
Jeez he beefed up
Tacos, tacos, tacos
@@DrivenHard that ain’t tacos. He got 🔥🔥
Good suv 💪💪💪💪💪
So the wading depth specification assumes you never need to start it again?
Hahahaha max wading depth is 900mm. I’ve gone about 1300mm
Ummm, are sway bar bushings something different in Britain? That's like a 20 minute job including raising the lift and grabbing the 10mm and rachet. $20 in parts?
I was always told “rovers and raptors: best Offroad vehicles, but won’t see dirt til their third owner”
Not true at all
First in thought its Pimp my Ride show
Lol 😂
It certainly confirmed my decision to buy a Toyota.
Curious what was overall cost of all repairs on this vehicle?
Zero except for the starter which I broke by going deeper then the max wading depth.
@@DrivenHard i know warranty covered almost all repairs, but what was the total cost ? Even that warranty paid
@@HEKTO3 ah!! I’m not sure. I only asked about the time where they threw parts at it and it ended up being almost 10k covered. But ya no clue about the other times
There has to be a Last Man Standing match between LC 300 and Range Rover Sport as in Africa we say: Take a Land Cruiser to Africa, you will come back, and take a Range Rover to Africa you will not come back"
Anyway, who buys a Range Rover for Off'- Road?
3rd starter motor and he says "not a ton"
Correct. Each time I drove it beyond the limits it was suppose to. Can’t hold that against the manufacturer
@@DrivenHard It's normal for starters to go out but 3 in less than 100k? That's only unique to JLR and so I hold it against the manufacturer. The windshield too. But I'm waiting for your 300k update. This is only the beginning. I want to see how much will break in the longer term. Actually I will subscribe to see that
@@brianm5753 Wait, what? You're actually waiting for what you think will be his Land Rover's inevitable demise? How very odd.
@@anthonyc1883 I see lots of Land Cruiser owners talking about having 300k on the odo without problems. It would be cool to see this on a Range
@@brianm5753 but you need to understand I drove it beyond what they are specified too. Like have having a sports car and doing burn outs too much and wearing out the tires in a day. Don’t go deep then 900mm and I did and the part failed cause of it.
Confidently comparing that with a Land Cruiser? No way in all aspects! Not amazing at all.
1200 $$$ for a starter?
I wonder if Canada has higher prices? The exchange rate is a bit different so it should be less than $1200 CAD.
@@travisp11 $940 U.S.
@@anthonyc1883 Ok. That is still pretty pricey and about 3X more than I spent on starters for most of my other cars.
for too that much still too much maintenance required
Nice to be able to beat the crap out of a New Land Rover you're buying at MSRP ++ up grade / mod's nah... no hatters here.😁
☝️This guy is the reason why you never buy a used Land Rover.
As for used ones nah.. no brainer, those are always sold to posers. 😉
So you pretty much confirmed to everyone that land Rover is a POS
sell it, now.
You like spending money🤑
Ill keep my 07 4runner sport edition with everything original except brakes what a piece of garbage, when warranty is up lets see how happy he is..and ive 240k miles not km
Seems like the driver is a positive, enthusiastic, energetic guy who loves to have a great time with his vehicle, and not smugly and negatively snipe with major 'tude at other people....like you do.
Cool story, and your 4 runner doesn't have 600hp, luxury ride, heated and cooled seats, nor does it look nice.
@@ryanturnerboles My Lamborghini does though..your point?
All this is great and what not, save for one fact: Every Land Rover vehicle is a he, not a she :)
Some guys like high maintenance cars and women. I'm not into either of them.
Hard to believe...man...seriously...all FOC?😳😳 Could have shown service docs as proof🤷♂️ 100k kms is easy for any SUV but not for RR cos they know guyz who buy it can afford to spend on it🤷♂️
I’ve done multiple videos on my service appointments on my own channel. You can check those out if you wish
@@DrivenHard great👍
Bad cars like this exist bc people are irrational.
Car market would be boring without some cars like this.
Didn't see any off-roading.... all talk...
Watch it again.
The biggest misconception that this guy just said was “this thing is idiot proof“. It’s obviously not, you need to do some modifications to your vehicle if you plan on off-roading this hard. Sure it’s still running but at what cost? Going through multiple windshield, starters, sway bar bushings. Come on man it’s obviously not idiot proof lol. You had to replace almost everything on this vehicle because you don’t know what you’re doing.
Too slow, but he's not a professional so I grinned through it.