Phil Hartman Murder | Mental Health and Personality Factors

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  • @RandiMEE
    @RandiMEE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I knew Phil Hartman as an aquaintance during this time and the 2-3 years leading up to his death through our shared interest in boating in Marina del Rey , California. I think a lot of Dr. Grandes' assesment of Phils personality was very good. What is missed, obviously as he never met him, is that Phil was one of the "good ones". Living in Hollywood as I have for 3 decades, the glow of celebrity wears thin very quickly. He was an actual good person. He was an extrovert but I would say in a gentle way. He wasnt the kind who would deliberatly "showboat" and feel that he had to be the center of attention, but he could quickly make an entire room burst out in laughter. He used to do an impersonation of my husband, who is himself a big personality with a strong German accent & He would walk up and down the dock doing the impersonation . Especially during the winter months, usually on a Sunday, he would call my husband at home to talk about boats. They would talk for a long time. My husband initially did not know who Phil was as a celebrity as he doesnt watch much television and certainly not SNL. I think Phil really liked that he could be himself with him. We never met his wife but it was pretty well known in the boating circles that he had married a " gold digger". We never saw her join him in his love of boating. I feel that Phil was 100% an innocent victim of an out of control cocaine addict. It is a horrifying and sad thing that his children havent had the blessing of growing up with such a kind person. The day we all heard the news left us speechless and sad. Rest In Peace to one of the Good Guys.

    • @Peacefullyatbeach104
      @Peacefullyatbeach104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks for sharing. I was always a fan of Phil's work. I have heard similar stories of him being a great guy.

    • @guerralg63
      @guerralg63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Marvelous tribute to a friend

    • @Adrian-zd4cs
      @Adrian-zd4cs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is so sad. Thank you for sharing.

    • @ItsKrma00
      @ItsKrma00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Would have been nice for Grande to acknowledge your personal and thoughtful input. Thank-you.

    • @peterfazio9306
      @peterfazio9306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Beautifully put. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Isabella66Gracen
    @Isabella66Gracen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I rarely comment, but this case still devastates me. Phil was so beloved by many of GenX, including myself, as well as my husband. The world was truly robbed of the many delightful comedic performances that never were because of Brynn's jealousy and resentfullness.
    RIP Phil Hartman.

  • @laurawhitaker1797
    @laurawhitaker1797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    This is a very insightful analysis, especially your point that In Brynne’s mind Phil personified the entertainment industry that had failed to further her acting aspirations. I would add that Phil’s inherent aloofness was identified by Brynne with the overall indifference she experienced at the hands of Hollywood. Being gifted with exceptionally good looks can sometimes elevate expectations about life’s delivering equivalent rewards. However, Hollywood is populated with a plethora of remarkable looking people, all vying for fame and fortune. While Brynne managed to attract Phil’s attention, its intensity was fleeting, as is fame. In the end, Brynne didn’t have the resources to deal with these realities on a professional or, most importantly, personal scale.

    • @Missditabomb
      @Missditabomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Laura Whittaker: Agree totally. Well said.

    • @silverbullett6684
      @silverbullett6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I conquer💯

    • @mychannel-fy3tf
      @mychannel-fy3tf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      She didn’t have the resources? She has been to what I imagine were pricey rehabs several times. She could afford a therapist. The late 90s, early 2000s and on, there were plenty of opportunity for white blonde women in Hollywood, especially ones with connections. If mainstream doesn’t want you, the climate was changing with independent filmmakers, HBO, not tv, and ten years later podcasting, TH-cam, streaming etc. I feel badly for someone who takes their life....except for the ones who murder someone else before they kill themselves. Being an actress sounds cool, but if I’m not good enough or don’t work on my skills by doing improv, off Broadway, empty comedy clubs etc. then blaming the world is what an entitled person would do.

    • @l.s.d8758
      @l.s.d8758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      beautifully said.

    • @michaelsix9684
      @michaelsix9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mychannel-fy3tf I tried to launch an acting career in my mid 40s, after a yr. I could see I was too old and didn't have the talent to make it, I did get seen by some casting agents, one from NYC, the other from LA, both gave me thumbs down, the NY dude threw my resume and headshot on the floor in front of other people, his name was Bob Luke, he said I had no energy, the lady from LA said " when I first saw you, I wondered can this guy act? after that kind of stuff -- I left, I was a librarian by day, so I had a career going, I think I'm lucky I didn't move to show biz, it's lots of rejections and humiliation, retired now at 65, and feel lucky to be alive -- acting is a brutal career, many actors I met were bitter, angry, and desperate

  • @vanessaalvarado8048
    @vanessaalvarado8048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    Its been over 20 yrs and this still gets to me.

    • @MeatLockerBlitz
      @MeatLockerBlitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So sorry for your loss.

    • @keyboardwarriorrose
      @keyboardwarriorrose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes! Me too! Phil was a shining light in this world!

    • @mgk2020
      @mgk2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MeatLockerBlitz lol

    • @lbdeuce
      @lbdeuce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s upsetting when people fall in and continue to love crazy people

    • @itsjustlaurel1531
      @itsjustlaurel1531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too.

  • @polarbearsrus6980
    @polarbearsrus6980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Wow, "Phil was being slowly killed by Brynn", exactly, so sad.

    • @carolmitchell6155
      @carolmitchell6155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      So true. I was in a relationship for 15 years, where my boyfriend manipulated and cried and then I finally left when I didn't recognize me anymore. It took about 3 years for me to rebuild my self esteem etc.. It was a hard lesson to learn and a mistake I'll never make again. They are slow and methodical thinking of ways to keep you guessing. By keeping you off balance you just learn to accept things so as not to make waves.

    • @polarbearsrus6980
      @polarbearsrus6980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@carolmitchell6155 Good for you, it's such a horrendous experience and these people are everywhere.

    • @dingfeldersmurfalot4560
      @dingfeldersmurfalot4560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@carolmitchell6155 I've definitely known people like that. The type I'm thinking of needs constant attention, but they don't care how they get it. The easiest way is by complaining, and it also offloads the pressure of that craving mindset by making it someone else's fault. They HAVE to complain about this or that, after all. It's not because they want to, or they're just being a pain demanding attention all the time even without earning it. They have no choice, they just HAVE TO complain. Like Lt. Columbo turning back around and saying, "Just one more thing ..."

    • @launabanauna496
      @launabanauna496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@carolmitchell6155
      Yes, they're called narcissists, and they are a scourge on the earth.

    • @launabanauna496
      @launabanauna496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dingfeldersmurfalot4560
      Yes, they're called narcissists.

  • @AnnikaOBrien
    @AnnikaOBrien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    I really appreciate you covering these cases; I always feel like you give a balanced overview of what’s going on without the sensationalism that the media offers. I was just a kid when Phil Hartman was murdered but I became a huge fan post-mortem. If you have enough to go on, I’d love to see you do a video on Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love.

    • @mireilleblacke6567
      @mireilleblacke6567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      With all due respect, I don't think Dr. Grande will have enough information to assess the Cobain case, as the majority of that information has been ejected into the media by Ms. Love herself (and the forensic facts are quite different).

    • @AnnikaOBrien
      @AnnikaOBrien 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mireille Blacke Yeah, I assumed so. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @gailremp3628
      @gailremp3628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mireille Blacke how do we go on the assumption that 99% of what comes of out of her mouth to this day is nothing but pure bullshit. That's the strange thing about people. It's like those two kids that killed their parents and then they plead their case to the court because now they are orphans. Say what?

    • @aussiehillbilly
      @aussiehillbilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kurt Cobain was murdered as him and his girlfriend the bass guitarist from Hole (the dark haired beauty) were going to escape to Canada together and she was a member of some Bosnian Charity that supported the rape victims of the war in Bosnia from her uni days. She was also brutally murdered not long after Kurt. Yes. More victims who would have exposed the Clintons criminal actions in Bosnia and the UN

    • @AnnikaOBrien
      @AnnikaOBrien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      barefoot arizona except that nobody said that. People tend to consider the victim of abuse and a murder to be less “evil” than the murderer.

  • @antiquemacabre
    @antiquemacabre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I love that you covered this. As a huge SNL and News Radio fan back then, I was so saddened when this happened. It was just so shocking and senseless. I devoured everything that was available at the time to learn all I could about what had happened. I firmly believe that not only did she "get revenge" on Hollywood, but she also ensured that she would finally, at least for a time, become famous.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Antique Macabre yep!!!!

    • @pamhales2603
      @pamhales2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes but not in a good way. That was a very selfish thing to do to her kids and they paid the price along with Phil.

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Pretty much EVERYTHING I've seen or read concerning Phil Hartman's murder has the finger pointed at him. Nearly everyone interviewed says: "Phil was successful but could hide inside himself, and Brynne just didn't know how to cope with that. It helped drive her to the edge." Your presentation was by far the most coherent, well-spoken and unbiased presentation of this case I've ever seen. You laid it out there: Brynn's narcissism and Phil's inability to confront. And though you didn't come right out and say it, Phil was an abused spouse who was only staying in the marriage for the kids. Even 22 years after this tragedy, husband abuse is still a taboo subject. Seriously, there are those who still blame him for his murder.
    The sad part is the people who come out and defend Brynn as a "loving mother and wife; who was driven to desperation by her husband's success, and would never have done this if not for Zoloft". I counter: It is a proven fact that drugs lower your inhibitions and lower the veil to reveal who you really are inside. If anything, drugs exacerbated who Brynn really was inside: a ticking time-bomb."

    • @citrusandclove340
      @citrusandclove340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well-said!

    • @PhoenixRising87
      @PhoenixRising87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's kind of sick that somehow, the writers of those pieces can work it out in their heads that Brynn's lack of impulse control and...almost pathological refusal to take care of herself is somehow her husband's/murder victim's fault. That's no better than saying to a battered wife "he only hits you because you *make* him!" Disgusting.

  • @karascene13
    @karascene13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "Slowly killed by Brynn." Wow- that struck a nerve with me. Great way to put that relationship in context. And how Phil represented her Hollywood rejection. Very astute. 👍
    The only thing I was wondering you might of mentioned, is how Brynn accused Phil of cheating, but she was out there flirting, (trying to get a job or not is no excuse) and how she seems to have had an ongoing relationship with the man she ran to after the murder. Whether it was still a sexual relationship or not- who knows? My point is, I think she was projecting like a lot of cheaters do. Maybe there is no proof of her cheating, so that's why it wasn't brought up. Imo, she was probably doing extramarital things, (even if just flirting and inappropriate friendships, but possibly more) and while doing drugs and drinking, things can get a little "loose" if you know what I mean. I think she put HER cheating burden upon Phil just like she did all her other disappointments.

  • @stephaniehansen5162
    @stephaniehansen5162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I was shocked when this happened. So sad. His kids would be in their mid to late twenties now. I hope they are ok. I miss Phil ; he was enormously talented. 😢

    • @lynnetmb4706
      @lynnetmb4706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was 25 years ago

    • @E.D1282
      @E.D1282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      His son is 32 and his daughter is 29 and married, and apparently they are doing great because they were taken care of so well by family members

    • @E.D1282
      @E.D1282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lynnetmb4706 Actually 23 years ago

  • @paper-chasepublications9433
    @paper-chasepublications9433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Yeah... it was so messed up when Phil Hartman was murdered. I was in my late teens. He was a truly funny guy and seemed nice. I remember feeling so badly for their kids. You made really valid points. Thanks for covering this, Doc.

  • @nan16cd
    @nan16cd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Phil had been struggling for years to make it to the top. He made it. He was getting his own show. He had come a along way from being Captain Carl on the first Pee Wee show. With his own show he could have made a place in show business for her. All she had to do was hang on a little longer. She did not want to do the work. She was mad at him for not making her successful. She turned out to be a very toxic wife. This was a very sad case.

  • @elisamastromarino7123
    @elisamastromarino7123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Sometimes you've just gotta call evil, spoilt, self entitled behaviour exactly what it is: *evil* .
    Thank you Dr Grande. 🌹👍

    • @mistaleesreversespeech7728
      @mistaleesreversespeech7728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @barefoot arizona Usually the D is at fault for letting crazy through the door.

    • @waderivers3304
      @waderivers3304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Elisa Mastromarino ....and selfish. It takes a lot to kill a man and leave his children fatherless .

    • @SynnJynn
      @SynnJynn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The thing is it's to easy to call someone evil. You need to get to the bottom of it so maybe you can help those suffering from the same affliction and prevent another life taken

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      SynnJynn nonsense. lt was what it was. She was evil. Not some tragic little lamb or victim.

    • @rtoma1974
      @rtoma1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, barefoot. Brynn was a psycho bitch. Phil didn't bring this on himself.

  • @para_bellum_1984
    @para_bellum_1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    I was a big NewsRadio fan growing up. Honestly I still miss him today.

    • @TheKitchenerLeslie
      @TheKitchenerLeslie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Whenever I see him in something, I always think, "I wonder what Phil's doing now?" Then I remember he's gone. My mind blocks it out for some reason. Just can't accept it. Same with Chris Cornell... who was murdered by an associate of Epstein.

    • @susanwilliamspodesta1005
      @susanwilliamspodesta1005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheKitchenerLeslie l

    • @lizbethk540
      @lizbethk540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I feel the same way. It makes me so sad. He was so talented in so many ways.

    • @h.borter5367
      @h.borter5367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was in my 20s when that show aired. I still miss him very much.

    • @hotties3v3n
      @hotties3v3n 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HRC

  • @chigal0926
    @chigal0926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    Your take on the murder on Phil Hartman is interesting. However, you failed to mention domestic abuse. I was 20 years old when this happened. After the truth came out about their relationship, it was obvious to me that Hartman was an abused spouse. This is the dirty little secret that is constantly ignored in our culture and legal system: women can be just as abusive and destructive in relationships.
    His life was in danger the longer he stayed in this toxic marriage. I can understand Hartmann’s hesitancy in divorcing. He had two kids, and he would have another failed marriage under his belt. This was a classic domestic abuse situation, a no one wants call it what it is.
    Instead of Brynn trying to make a life for herself in other professional fields, she was using her husband to do that. Hartmann was in an impossible situation. This is a lethal double standard: I want to bask in my husband’s success. I expect success because “my man” is successful!!! If I don’t get what I want, it’s the man’s fault.
    The whole substance abuse thing is massive problem in our society. There are so many people who are active drug users and alcoholics. This kind of things really screws up the brain. I have made a rule to myself never to date anyone who is a substance abuser. I am still out on dating recovered substance abusers. The situation is too volatile and precarious.

    • @cw5451
      @cw5451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Very astute comment! And yes, drug and alcohol really screw up a person’s brain and ability to think! I’ve learned from experience that dating recovered alcoholics or drug abusers is unwise because the character traits that predisposed them to substance abuse are still part of that person‘s character. Also, the damage that drugs and alcohol do to the brain is permanent, so those peoples’ brains don’t function well after they stop abusing the substances.

    • @nettiea9384
      @nettiea9384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Phil must hv loved his wife or may hv pitied her... something! and his kids cuz a man divorced 2x doesnt hv a problem pulling the trigger again and divorcing a 3rd time... the likelihood of divorce actually goes up. Maybe he liked the crazy side of her at times and just thought he cd handle this volatile situation?

    • @ciobalina7445
      @ciobalina7445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well, dr.Grande mentions that it seems to him that the husband, Phil, had been slowly “ground down, “killed slowly”, by his wife.

    • @cw5451
      @cw5451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dirty Magic11 I agree. But I don’t see how that relates to my earlier comment.

    • @steppy3736
      @steppy3736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I recall correctly, she had also been diagnosed as Bi-Polar I.

  • @tabby3554
    @tabby3554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Lionel Hutz: Well he's kinda had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog.
    Marge: You did?
    Lionel Hutz: Well actually replace the word 'kinda' with 'repeatedly' and the word 'dog' with 'son'.

    • @carachantler2325
      @carachantler2325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never watched but that 😂

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats not funny at all.

    • @napatora
      @napatora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@lorimiller4301 oh man i haven't seen anyone clutch their pearls over the simpsons in a looong time

    • @dirtydave2691
      @dirtydave2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Mr. Hutz do you realize you're not wearing any pants"? This was a sad ending for such a talented funny person. She hurt more people than she could have ever imagined.

    • @lynnetmb4706
      @lynnetmb4706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lorimiller4301
      It was an episode of The Simpson’s

  • @ceruleanwonder
    @ceruleanwonder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    "It's hard to imagine a worse outcome for a relationship than a murder suicide". I had to pause to spit out my water.

    • @Barbara-zu4pl
      @Barbara-zu4pl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Leaving 2 young children, orphans.

    • @joelheinen7625
      @joelheinen7625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Understatement like that keeps me listening to Dr Grande. He’s a stitch.

    • @brianbauer2595
      @brianbauer2595 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mr. Layth Adrian Yes, that does sound bad, lol.

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mr. Layth Adrian lmfao

    • @carolnahigian9518
      @carolnahigian9518 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet he said ‘l WILL TAKE the kids!!!!”’

  • @TheCatquillen
    @TheCatquillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Grande,
    I remember this case quite well. Phil Hartman was the woman’s comedian. He had good looks, sex appeal, and endearing wit. Something about him made you think he was focusing on you personally-trying to get just you to laugh. He was unique amongst his peers.
    Thank you for covering him. We don’t have that many great comedians anymore. Seriously, too many are negative with no hope in their humor.
    BTW. No one discusses Brynn’s physical health. I think menopause also contributed along with the substance abuse.

  • @sharonlarge7908
    @sharonlarge7908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    It’s worrisome to me when people do not want to hold people accountable due to a substance abuse or mental illness. So many people have tragic backgrounds but choose not to commit a horrific crime against another. I my heart goes out to anyone that suffers, but it’s still their responsibility to seek out help and take their medication responsibly.

    • @ladennayoung2939
      @ladennayoung2939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was in denial. That is part of the mental disorder. They have the grandiose effect.

    • @soulrpower3031
      @soulrpower3031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Correct, absolutely nobody has the right to intentionally cause malicious harm to others or take another’s life because they have “issues.”

    • @PhoenixRising87
      @PhoenixRising87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The dirty secret is that drugs don't make you an asshole. They just lower your inhibitions so your worst traits come out more easily.

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PhoenixRising87 I agree with this. Drugs also test a person's ethical and moral codes. There are life long addicts who are trustworthy and compassionate. There are also plenty of addicts who are contemptable. But drugs didn't turn them into a different person. The flaws were already there, waiting to be tested. Some people struggle and maintain a degree of dignity and honour. Many don't.

    • @DVD927
      @DVD927 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not an excuse, it’s an explanation.

  • @mariebernier3076
    @mariebernier3076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thank you fellow Gen-X er. You remember! Don't forget that he started as Captain Karl on Pee Wee's Playhouse, sooo good.

  • @dianamarie5663
    @dianamarie5663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I appreciate your paying tribute to my generation by looking at these older cases. There seems to have been a lot of tragedy with some of the SNL actors and other comedians. It's very disheartening.

    • @ellenthom34
      @ellenthom34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Diana Marie, I appreciate your use of your instead of you. Even PhDs get this wrong. I fear we are losing this piece of grammar.

    • @barbaradascalos4411
      @barbaradascalos4411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is your better than you..?

    • @ellenthom34
      @ellenthom34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your paying tribute is a gerund phrase. I is subject. Appreciate is verb. Your paying tribute is the object. Like, we say he likes to run but his running on the treadmill annoys me.

    • @Lisa-hc3uq
      @Lisa-hc3uq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellenthom34
      Are you serious?
      Do you have anything intelligent or interesting to contribute to the topic at hand, which is the murder of a Hollywood actor, besides calling out, of all things, an error on a strangers post that was made 2 years ago?
      Yes, 2 years ago.
      No one is impressed by your intelligence, nor your lesson on how we should correctly address a sentence.
      This isn't a school classroom, it's TH-cam.
      A public forum.
      The world isn't going to the dungeons of hell because of the misuse of words from time to time.
      Get a grip and try to focus on the topic at hand instead of criticizing someone else's incorrect use of words in their, *gasp*, topic at hand comment.
      Try it sometime.

    • @TheBOG3
      @TheBOG3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lisa-hc3uq Same could be said to you.

  • @Raisin_Girl
    @Raisin_Girl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I ended up looking Phil up because the Depp/Heard situation reminds me so much of it. I am Glad Johnny got out of it alive.

    • @peterfazio9306
      @peterfazio9306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm pretty sure that he did kick her on that plane. Perhaps Heard is the lucky one to get out of that one.

    • @Raisin_Girl
      @Raisin_Girl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@peterfazio9306 You having a bad night? 🫂

    • @peterfazio9306
      @peterfazio9306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Raisin_Girl Haha, Nah, just binging on Dr. Grande for the holiday. Happy Independence Day!

  • @martcichocki5571
    @martcichocki5571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Being a long-time, diehard fan of SNL, I do recall that scene you referred to.
    Really appreciate your analysis of such a tragic occurrence. SPOT ON, like usual! Clear, concise, logical, & helpful in understanding & closure.
    Thanks from Michigan.

  • @AnimalsMatterMorally
    @AnimalsMatterMorally 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Oh my God, I couldn't watch this video fast enough. I was a HUGE fan of Phil Hartman's and I was absolutely crushed by his murder. 😰 I still get sad whenever I think of him or see him in SNL reruns. SUCH an enormously talented funny man.

  • @aussiehillbilly
    @aussiehillbilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    This one was so heartbreaking as Phil Hartman was one of our family's favourite comedians...such a tragedy

    • @TheKnives777
      @TheKnives777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yea, she destroyed so many hearts just because she couldn't be as good as her husband. she was truly pathetic and will always be remembered as a murderer she just couldn't stop failing.

    • @aussiehillbilly
      @aussiehillbilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheKnives777 we cried like our best friend died. He definitely left a dent and our lives are poorer from the great loss. The poor man was obviously dealing with a psycho he had no clue how to deal with

    • @phillytheflyerable
      @phillytheflyerable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he was a dear friend, it seemed. I loved him since a very young age. even at 7, 8 years old I got his humour and charm. much like john candy. just those people that catch your attention and your heart when you see them perform

    • @aussiehillbilly
      @aussiehillbilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phillytheflyerable they resonated with the world, an entire generation was given so much mirth and joy, we laugh less without them

    • @phillytheflyerable
      @phillytheflyerable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aussiehillbilly yes. their warmth and charisma took up the whole screen. I miss them both, both canadian boys

  • @LeLeB37
    @LeLeB37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    This was a true tragedy because Phil was a great talent and had so much more left to give to the world with his talent. This case always bothered me because of how severe and senseless it seemed. Your take on his wife seeing Phil as a representation of her rejection by Hollywood is very insighful and does serve as a bit of clarity in this really bizarre horrible event.

    • @trfaison
      @trfaison 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. I was a adolescent when this occurred. I watched Hartman SNL episodes frequently and enjoyed his work. I remember feeling that Brynn's actions were selfish and a result of her substance use. Your analysis provides insight I had not considered.

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was Bryn Sexually Abused as a Child ?

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lori Miller honestly, what does that do? Justify her behavior? She was an evil, selfish murderer.

    • @ambregris
      @ambregris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@miriamhavard7621 yeah, it doesn't really mean anything. Countless people were/are sexually abused as children and don't end up murdering their spouses.

  • @michellebastiani6470
    @michellebastiani6470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    He seemed like such a good guy. I loved most everything he did when I was growing up. So sad, he was taken too early and for such a senseless reason. Such a talent I still wonder what he would have gone on to do if he hadn't died.

  • @christopherramos5690
    @christopherramos5690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sometimes it's better to just walk away when the red flags start to show up, to just save ourselves the pain or avoid that someone set us an appointment with god.

  • @jenniferloretto5939
    @jenniferloretto5939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I want to say, “Phil Hartman thanks you from the other side!” I love and miss him so. You are spot-on as usual Dr T.

  • @MsDrSantana
    @MsDrSantana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Brynn was taking SSRI's and mixing them with cocaine and alcohol. This is very significant in affecting her thinking, aggression, and impulsiveness. Many people on SSRI's become very dangerous when they combine them with other drugs or alcohol.

    • @avalonmist254
      @avalonmist254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to mention non compliance and taking Zoloft on and off brings a horrible rebound of depression.

    • @denisebaber4976
      @denisebaber4976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      M Santana she was an unstable mess before that. I wouldn't blame the drugs. Drugs just magnify your flaws.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She was a sow. She was envious of Phil. Pig.

    • @amber40494
      @amber40494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@denisebaber4976 drugs are extremely dangerous when taken together with alcohol and cocaine!

    • @janettecoleman1714
      @janettecoleman1714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Self centred, she could've just taken herself OUT!

  • @kimaparks2592
    @kimaparks2592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for this breakdown. As a lover of all things Simpsons the death of Phil broke my heart. I couldn’t watch anything on his death because it was needlessly tragic. Thank you for telling this story without being triggering.

  • @MegaTriumph1
    @MegaTriumph1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Friends warned Phil. I watched a show on his friends letting him know of their concerns for his safety. Such a mystery case thanks for explaining it.

  • @gabepearl5661
    @gabepearl5661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love the way that you point out that there is no excuse for bad behavior. No one makes you pick up a gun and kill somebody. It's your choice.

  • @panaramix4835
    @panaramix4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Grande, I watch your videos religiously. Thank you so much for sharing your insight and having an honest intellectual discourse in all the materials you publish. You're awesome!

  • @dingfeldersmurfalot4560
    @dingfeldersmurfalot4560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When this happened, I read that a number of Phil's friends said Brin was so abusive of Phil, trying to say cruel things and humiliate him in public, that it was extremely disturbing to see and be around. So this didn't come about despite Brin's personality or true feelings, for sure. She was an abuser who at long last escalated to the final possible degree.

  • @mireilleblacke6567
    @mireilleblacke6567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Wow. Impressive analysis. It does seem that Phil truly had no idea it was coming, otherwise he'd never have gone to sleep with such a threat looming.

    • @ladennayoung2939
      @ladennayoung2939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm sure he didn't see it coming. This was a woman that he loved and trusted. She was a beautiful woman, and more then likely seemed harmless.

    • @judywright4241
      @judywright4241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mireille Blacke ---He was used to the dysfunctional, he’s the boiling frog who doesn’t realize he’s being cooked.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Judy Wright BINGO!!!

  • @serendipitous_synchronicity
    @serendipitous_synchronicity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks Dr Grande. 🙂
    Hope you & your family are well!
    ✌🏻

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Fascinating case and brilliant analysis!
    Your conclusion about Phil Hartman being the embodiment of Hollywood establishment in the eyes of Brynn makes a lot of sense. Really tragic story.
    Thank you Dr. Grande for another fantastic video:)

  • @steppy3736
    @steppy3736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The fact the friend sat with Brynne for 3 hours, with a gun, makes me question their relationship. Had she threatened Phil before? Had she threatened the friend?

    • @PhoenixRising87
      @PhoenixRising87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She probably did; hell, she'd be far from the first abuser to tell their victim "I'll kill you and then myself if XYZ happens."

  • @justatexasgirl5583
    @justatexasgirl5583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This hurted my heart! The most compelling part of the story was when the police were carrying their kids out in their pj’s and handing them to her sister.

  • @gypsyjustgypsy
    @gypsyjustgypsy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found you searching for NP disorder information. I'm now binging your channel. Thank you so much for being here! I very much appreciate the factual, clear and drama-free content. Subscribed.

  • @LaidBackAssassin
    @LaidBackAssassin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    His beautiful wife has always gotten her way, and for Hollywood to reject her was unbearable for her ego.

    • @majorkade
      @majorkade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      she was average beautiful in Hollywood. maybe back in her hometown she was it, but in Hollywood and LA, lots of competition. made her more insecure.

    • @hotties3v3n
      @hotties3v3n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      She wasn't a great beauty at all.

    • @rtoma1974
      @rtoma1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She was tall with a very average face. And she was getting old. She couldn't take reality.

    • @FuryanJedi13
      @FuryanJedi13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rtoma1974 My thoughts exactly. I always thought Brynn was rather plain, appearance wise. Not drop dead gorgeous, and definitely not ugly... just plain.
      I've seen pictures of their grown-up daughter Birgen, though, and she is an absolute stunner!

    • @1915FadedBelly
      @1915FadedBelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then they were a good match with their appearance then🙄

  • @berjaboy
    @berjaboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Remember hearing troubling stories about her in the entertainment shows and sections in the papers and thinking, this is not going to end well. But I thought she was going to do harm to Phil's ex-wife or their kids. When I heard she had murdered him, it was shocking.

  • @cindyrhodes
    @cindyrhodes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My goodness, thank you for this. I loved Phil Hartman's work, even as Captain Carl on Pee Wee's Playhouse. What a horrible end to his life. Thank you for taking the time to look into it and shed light on the reasons for this insane tragedy!

  • @FuryanJedi13
    @FuryanJedi13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sometimes I find myself wondering what Phil would be doing if he was still alive today. He'd be turning 72 in 2020, but he'd probably still have an amazing career.
    It's a damn shame we never got to see it.

  • @Lisa-wu1ld
    @Lisa-wu1ld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wow, makes me think that Johnny Depp & Amber Heard broke up in the nick of time!
    I stumbled across your channel & before I knew it I was subscribed & watching almost every one of them. Now, how would you diagnose that, an addictive disorder? Love the dry sense of humor and the quick "side note jokes" without a whisper of a smile. Great content! ❤️

  • @billhildebrand5053
    @billhildebrand5053 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Comment 122: 3528 views 245k Subscribers 😀👋 385 likes 7 non
    I noticed in ABC interview “The last days of Phil Hartman” minute 4:53, that Lisa’s marriage in 1982 after two weeks marriage, she said “ he was elusive, beyond your reach” and then his relationship changed. Lisa said he was two people, one the actor entertainer, the other ‘the recluse’ and Phil’s absence showed he was not vulnerable, afraid to show his true feelings. This is the sixth facet of Neuroticism, ( which Dr. Grande explained in that video ) . Commentator says “Phil is not vulnerable, he will not let you into his life “. Phil’s lack of vulnerability is a predisposition to failure in each of his marriages. 😄😄👋
    Good work, Dr. Gran❤️e.

  • @marytheresel795
    @marytheresel795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Superb analysis of a very sad case. The world lost a bright star in Phil Hartman. Your presentation of the case was logical and well-organized.

  • @JeanieD
    @JeanieD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great analysis, Dr. Grande! Very thorough - I was especially impressed by the detail you noticed in the SNL opening credits, as I always remembered having a weird reaction to that particular snippet of video, like something weird had been caught on camera. 👍🏻

  • @megalodontheestallion5241
    @megalodontheestallion5241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro! I've finally decided to subscribe! I also agree with your takes, I like your form of humor and you CONSISTENTLY address the topics that I've ALWAYS found fascinating. I was child when this crime took place (11!) and it always stood out to me! I lowkey feel like there should be an American Crime Story about this situation.

  • @megan7788
    @megan7788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's the first time I'm hearing about this story and sadly when you said that she was slowing killing him, and explaining the symptoms I could relate, you described my mother.
    There's no stability she goes from someone caring to extremely violent and it's hard to hate her for a long time because she doesn't feels or says "sorry", she simply acts like nothing happened and makes you questions if something really happened or if you should bring the previous issues to the light again. Self-pity, self-admiration, lack of awareness, lack of graditute, jealousy, extreme possessiveness, "short memory" and "physical illness", gaslighting, extreme violence, love for attention is all I'm dealing with right now. I have no place to go and no documents because she's "guarding" them in a "safe place", no keys, no bank account, I'm studying online. She separated me from the world, friends that I had. I was made to think that they are dangerous and can "kill me", used me as an instrument to hurt my father and was verbally abusive when I didn't wanted to, all this resulted in me having absolutely no one but her and fear of hurting myself in tentative to "escape".

    • @SynnJynn
      @SynnJynn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like my sister...
      You try but there is nothing you can do.

    • @nicoles7800
      @nicoles7800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Megan Wow, that’s quite a lot you’re dealing with. I bet it’s especially bad now we are all in isolated lockdown.
      I have had very similar experiences. It’s not anything you are doing that makes your mother behave this way.
      You are being abused.
      I hope you can reach out to lifeline, or a support phone line for victims of domestic abuse.
      You do not have to suffer like this.
      There are many people who are equipped to offer you support.
      This sort of abuse never gets better, it just escalates.
      You deserve a much better experience of life. You deserve to be loved and treated decently.💕✌️

    • @megan7788
      @megan7788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicoles7800 thanks

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My mom also displayed psychotic, abusive behavior. l was SO glad to finally escape!!!!

  • @AnymousScreams
    @AnymousScreams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find your channel to be a mix of fascination with what is discussed and intrigue into your solid, calm analysis of the discussion. It's always interesting, and I learn something new. Your channel is pretty rad.

  • @jamiew6326
    @jamiew6326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    “Based on the outcome...it seemed pretty bad to me.” Dr Grande bringing the hard truths tonight 😂

  • @LisaD007
    @LisaD007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Grande, Once again you have given a thorough and extremely insightful analysis of an interesting but heartbreaking case. And, as always, your analysis is spot on! Thanks for providing us with this perfectly executed and interesting analysis. It’s always a pleasure to hear and learn from your perspective. Keep up the great work!

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Miss Phil for sure, Lionel Hutz was one of my fav Simpsons characters.

  • @lizbethk540
    @lizbethk540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Grande, I cannot tell you how much I enjoy your channel. Ty for studying these cases and enlightening us about them. You are so respectful. Blessings. New sub! 💖

  • @tinathompson7442
    @tinathompson7442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That was one mean-looking woman, in every picture I've seen of her. Poor Phil! :(

  • @laurielynne2006
    @laurielynne2006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! You’ve been covering a lot of great cases! Love your channel!

  • @adventurebabyboomer7318
    @adventurebabyboomer7318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Those two were misguided. This is an example of when marriage is toxic....

  • @YellowApprentice
    @YellowApprentice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The bottle didn't say, 'Don't take with cocaine'. Lol.

    • @brendaneedle9941
      @brendaneedle9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do ppl. end a serious comment with LOL

  • @anthonystango4127
    @anthonystango4127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You dont really see the glue until its gone and everything falls apart. Newsradio was like 20 of my best little friends. When phil was taken from us it was like switching to non alcoholic cigarettes. Rip phil, you never met me but you kept me company when no one else would. You helped shape my outlook on life and MOST importantly showed me how to use comedy as armour. Thank you friend.

  • @Kathy-bc5yq
    @Kathy-bc5yq ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this to be very interesting. You talked about a lot of details I didn’t know. Thanks for you hard work!

  • @MelTheMuppetslayer
    @MelTheMuppetslayer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This one still hurts my soul...

    • @julilla1
      @julilla1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too, at least a couple of times a year I think how I miss him and wish he was around to make us laugh.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES.

    • @carolnahigian9518
      @carolnahigian9518 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps PHIL WAS THE PROBLEM!!!

    • @MelTheMuppetslayer
      @MelTheMuppetslayer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carolnahigian9518 while I’ll agree that there is always a possibility, his wife checked off all the boxes for abusive partner.

  • @mrs.reluctant4095
    @mrs.reluctant4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you doctor for covering a case that isn't known in the US only. I'm quite a true-crime-junkie and know a lot of US- cases and others from all over the world, however most cases you prefered to take a deeper look at in recent times I've never heard of before. This couple is indeed familiar to me! 🙂 Stay well everyone. 🌼

  • @kinkle_Z
    @kinkle_Z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Phil Hartman's murder really hurt me. I just loved him SO much. It was just so unfair!! What a sweet guy...RIP Phil!

    • @Brucebod
      @Brucebod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only watched Newsradio because he was in it. He seemed genuinely nice, to me.

  • @sycamoresally6303
    @sycamoresally6303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a sad case. 💔 Thank you for this balanced and thoughtful analysis, Dr. Grande.

  • @scarletibis3158
    @scarletibis3158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Phil's friends knew she was crazy. when the news came out it was something they expected.

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Phil's unwillingness to divorce probably arose more from conscientiousness than from agreeableness given that they had kids to raise.

    • @lamolambda8349
      @lamolambda8349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joe: Just give her half and get this divorce over with.
      Phil: It's not half it's two thirds, she get's a third and the lawyers get a third.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Social constructs lay heavy guilt on people, pressure is put in them to stay with 24 kt losers.

    • @a.h.2667
      @a.h.2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wonder if he felt like a failure with three marriages that went sour.

  • @michaelaegge8808
    @michaelaegge8808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really enjoy these videos. Ever considered make an analysis video on Gone Girl? I love that movie but go really back and forth on theories. It'd be great to hear professional input!

  • @michellem3982
    @michellem3982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    l remember the night l heard it on the radio and was shocked to say the least..lt was so sad that he was killed just as he was starting to really make a name for himself but the two real victims in this were the children that were left behind with no Mother or Father..My heart went out to them first and foremost because no one knows what they saw or heard and what they did/will remember from that night.

  • @anothercleverusername992
    @anothercleverusername992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's insane knowing that Phil was genuinely the nicest guy in Hollywood. Most have tons of skeletons in their closets in that industry... But Phil Hartman was just a good guy. Through and through. Tragic.

  • @lyndawood7937
    @lyndawood7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful video. Glad you did this on Phil Hartman. Always great content.

  • @timmchavoc
    @timmchavoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Phil Hartman was one of those people who's humor and delivery was unique and is truly missed by myself as well as others. His had the ability to get into character and keep a straight face while saying the most hilarious stuff was genius. I remember one SNL episode when Phil was hosting and during his monologue he says something to the effect of I hate my hate, then proceeds to say ' I'm just kidding dear' This was a brief peek into the turmoil behind the camera that ultimately led to the tragic outcome Dr. Grande is discussing here. Well made video and analysis, I suspect the Dr. was a fan as well.

  • @megalopolis2015
    @megalopolis2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I never saw any of this from this angle, but the details you brought up fit very well. I think he Loved her, but probably didn't show it well. She likely wouldn't have believed him, anyway. So tragic. Even though the kids are grown now, my heart still goes out to them. They lost so much.

  • @GenXfrom75
    @GenXfrom75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoyed Phil Hartman's "everyman" talent. I will always remember how shocking it was to hear about this case. He really had a wonderful talent. I felt so heartbroken for their children.

  • @hithere4951
    @hithere4951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always, thank you for your great work and amazing diverse contents dr grande . I have a suggestion if you do not mind. Can you talk about the “advice giving” practice in therapy -I am not really sure what to call it - ? Maybe provide us with a better terminology for it and a definition. Can it be beneficial ? And If yes in which circumstances? Keep the great work dr.

  • @gailremp3628
    @gailremp3628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting. A good breakdown and a good analysis. Thank you.

  • @matthewrocca4197
    @matthewrocca4197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Here's the thing with prescription medications: it's not always safe to mix them with alcohol or other drugs" 😂This case is particularly sad but I couldn't help but laugh at the dry humor here

  • @TheShelbelle07
    @TheShelbelle07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    “There’s a sense that in this relationship Paul is being slowly killed by Brinn. Of course it gets abrupt at the end with the actual murder” I died😂😂😂😂

  • @AlQaeda198
    @AlQaeda198 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man your vids are kickass please don’t stop we all really appreciate your opinion and insight thanks docta

  • @BrainsApplied
    @BrainsApplied 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh wow, another video? I'm surprised you have time to make all of these 😱

    • @gailremp3628
      @gailremp3628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe he's having to hide out also. Aren't we all.

    • @teresahowick5197
      @teresahowick5197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The world has at least slowed down if not stopped. We all have more time.

    • @theartoflanguage3429
      @theartoflanguage3429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He probably makes a bunch at a time, then schedules them. Huge energy/time saver.

  • @carmenbatchelor8044
    @carmenbatchelor8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so glad you did this one! I can still remember hearing this tragic news that morning on the news..so so sad. Loved Phil Hartman 😢

  • @2legit2Kwit
    @2legit2Kwit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was really disturbed when this happened. Couldn’t fathom how anyone could do this to another.

    • @XxYwise
      @XxYwise ปีที่แล้ว

      BPD rage is a helluva drug.

  • @cw5451
    @cw5451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting and great insight! Everything you said makes very good sense. And you obviously put a lot of time and effort into researching and thinking about it. Phil’s murder was so tragic and seemed hard to understand, but you made it more understandable, so thank you for that.

  • @kr00m
    @kr00m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I appreciate you sharing sources.

  • @1492chris
    @1492chris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching at least 50 of Dr. Grande's analysis I rate this one #1. Incredibly inciteful, accurate, sad and peppered with Todd's black humor. We lost an important comedic talent to guns and drugs that night. I miss Phil every time I watch SNL.

  • @GentlemanAmerican
    @GentlemanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Phil Hartman murder was shocking. I knew nothing about Brynn until the murder. At the time, I only knew she had drug addictions and apparent mental problems. I didn't know she left the house and met anyone between shooting Phil and killing herself. I agree this was a premeditated murder, regardless of cocaine or antidepressants. Drug addicts don't normally commit murder, unless they are prone to violence.

  • @MrUndersolo
    @MrUndersolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for covering this.
    I remember when this happened, and I always wondered about the specifics of the case. It seemed like it was impossible to get all the details out.

  • @andreasschmitt7307
    @andreasschmitt7307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This is where the saying comes from: Don´t put your stick in crazy.

    • @mdaddy775
      @mdaddy775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or put a ring on it!

  • @sandratucker8636
    @sandratucker8636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analogy
    Best yet.
    Love uour videos.
    Long time viewer
    Sande from Las Vegas NV.

  • @erust9465
    @erust9465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hi Dr. Grande,
    This one is really sad, what a waste of two lives, and those poor kids have to live with this horror the rest of their lives.
    I always thought they were utterly different people. She was probably very charming and lovable at first, and I’m sure he must’ve loved her. He didn’t have to marry a 3rd time!
    I think the only thing they had in common at the end were the kids. They were at different points in their professional lives. He was accomplished and a success, she wasn’t, and that’s all she wanted. As he became simply tired of her constant insecurity he withdrew, emotionally and physically. That proved to make her even more needy. I do believe she was sucking the life out of him, and I think he stayed because of his kids. I think he wanted to give them a traditional happy childhood. He was probably convincing himself that his wife would stop, that’d she drop the “career” thing and be happy to simply be his wife and a Mom. She couldn’t admit that she wasn’t a success because she simply wasn’t talented enough. He did get her some breaks. If she was talented enough she would’ve taken off. She blamed him for not helping her, not willing to admit to herself she shouldn’t NEED anymore help than he’d already given.
    Of COURSE he didn’t see her shooting him coming. He certainly wasn’t in the same emotional state. And bring drug abuse into it on her part, not good.
    People today are so shocked at the very MENTION of cocaine use. Back in the 80-90s, ESPECIALLY the 80s, cocaine use was common, especially in the entertainment field. Most used it more like a party favor, as it kept one from getting “drunk” from alcohol and you could go longer. Plus the cost was high, so most didn’t over indulge. However those that moved on to constant use, mixing with other drugs or harder drugs found out quickly the damage it could render to your life!
    She was obviously intensely insecure, and needed constant propping up in that regard. Cocaine would’ve been appealing to her as it gives one a feeling of invincibility. She was the LAST person that should’ve been around guns. Too easy to do something impetuous and not thought out, especially if on multiple drugs, and then realize what you’ve just done!
    So here they are, she’s attention starved because she wants fame, no amount of attention he gave her was sufficient. He’s not doing drugs, and is pulling away because he was drained, and probably getting increasingly disgusted (that level of neediness is a turn off to say the least!). His pulling away made her worse and that cycle ends badly when weapons are handy. I believe he gave her one gun as a gift. If so, the irony is stunning!
    They probably argued, she was high, he was over it and went to bed. She got MAD, and killed him, and was probably shocked that she actually did. I feel that’s why she called her ex, she was high, in shock and couldn’t be alone. She probably continued getting high until the drugs were gone. Then it REALLY hit her, police have been called, dead husband and she had a final snap.
    Since my husband was a touring musician for many years, back in those days too, I’ve certainly seen my fair share of people with cocaine issues. I can see how this can happen! His nickname was “Sarg” as he did not tolerate this kind of thing. He knew all too well that it’s about the worst thing you could do.
    When this case broke in the news, we just looked at each other and said at the same time, “who in the hell let her be around guns?”
    It’s too bad Hartman didn’t realize what a bad idea that was. It’s a good thing the kids were left out if it. It could’ve been a bigger tragedy!
    So sad for the families, especially the kids. It’s a cautionary tale, yet in the following years people started consuming even worse drugs, heroin and opiates. I’ll NEVER understand that, and why the switch in public consumption! But that’s another story! LOL!
    I agree with your take on this sad situation. And as always, thanks for your hard work, and sharing with all!
    Best Wishes!

  • @HopskotchBunny
    @HopskotchBunny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was extremely interesting, Dr. Grande. Thank you. Phil Hartman was such a gifted actor and did so many animation character’s voices that I loved including “JiJi” in “KiKi’s Delivery Service.” He is greatly missed.

  • @yelloworangered
    @yelloworangered 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Brilliantly analyzed. His identity disappeared into her anger about her thearted hopes and ambitions.

  • @duaneblake7986
    @duaneblake7986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tragic and complex story with so many lessons. Great analysis, Dr. Grande.

  • @picklesthewise
    @picklesthewise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God, this was horrible. Their relationship was clearly abusive and he was in a position like many victims of abuse where he felt he couldn't leave. That plus the whole stigma of men having to "tough it out" in those kind of situations, or even the idea by some that women can't be abusive, which is wrong. Drugs and alcohol just made a bad situation worse. I feel so sorry for his family having to pick up the pieces after he was gone. Thank goodness she never went after his children, too.

  • @megschmeedafamc
    @megschmeedafamc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning! ☀️ Thank you for your analysis. I recently came across your channel and really do enjoy your videos. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @OtterMunchy
    @OtterMunchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    that was really interesting...i am, frankly, shocked that more stories like this are not floating around hollyweird...fragile egos, constant rejection, rabid fans and paparazzi, and the exhausting notion that everything about yourself that has (marketable) value also has a short shelf-life...just thinking about it all makes me feel homicidal, and i'm an agorophobic hat-maker.

    • @qiuwbr091
      @qiuwbr091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      amy joy - Once upon a time big news was when Buttermilk accidentally stepped on Dale Evans foot while she was getting in the saddle Roy gave her for a wedding 💝 present.Things moved super fast from that to this.

    • @OtterMunchy
      @OtterMunchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@qiuwbr091 agreed...looking back, it seems strange that it was all organic change and the slow passage of time...retrospect is unfairly short.

    • @b.f.2461
      @b.f.2461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OtterMunchy Remember that in the golden age of Hollywood a lot of people paid a lot of money to keep bad stories quiet.

    • @OtterMunchy
      @OtterMunchy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@b.f.2461 truth.

    • @barbaradascalos4411
      @barbaradascalos4411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Documentary "Misery loves Comedy" see Freddie Prinze.

  • @alywi
    @alywi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “I think the problem really comes down to that there’s a limit to what they can fit on those prescription bottles in terms of warnings.”

  • @mdaddy775
    @mdaddy775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos. Interesting information soothingly spoken :)

  • @JoshuaDb_The_Witness
    @JoshuaDb_The_Witness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    New Radio was brilliant! Hartman was a master.