They could just preprint a first run, then print on demand once the run sells out. But of course that would make too much sense and benefit the consumer.....
Fomo drives sales. Print on demand does not. Most of these massive corporations have already hit their peak and any more growth is not realistic using any other tactics.
Honestly it wouldn't be a bad idea and a way they could do it so people can still get stuff on the collectors side of things is have the first run be serialized. That way people who super buy in get something exclusive like it is now but people who don't care about that can still get a copy of the cards after first run is over.
@Gillandria doubt. I assume it was Wizards using bots till a name and shame happens. Always assume the Corpo's that benefit are at fault unless proven otherwise
Commander isnt a sanctioned format who cares play what you want we don't need wizards or a 3rd party controlling the games we play at home and hell even stores my local dont give a dam we all play with proxys and use whatever we want for the most part we use are own bans. Play how you want talk to your play group I promise you will be playing with your favorite decks
@@UmbraBreethat kind of conspiratorial thinking is unnecessary. Sometimes, stuff is exactly what it looks like. I don’t trust WotC/Hasbro at all, but to jump from “corpos will screw your over for money” to “they’re faking death threats by using bots to harass a group of people in order to seize control of a community run format instead of just using a lawyer like a normal company” is a massive leap in logic.
Trust me real investors don’t do that. Investing in something like magic is a sin for investors. They have to see a profit and the way cards are they can lose value in a heart beat
The worst part is these Marvel secret lairs are $10 more expensive and they expect to sell out immediately. They raised the prices not because they have to for licensing, but because they know they can get away with it to make more.
Serialized cards can still be played as the regular version. I have an Ezuri, Claw of Progress and my brother has a serialized Ezuri, Claw of Progress.
Whats more shocking then this (because I already knew) is that there are still enough ppl out there buying these products, spending a ton of money. Change starts with the customer unfortunatly, if they can sell their stuff why should they change anything. I mean in my mind they should anyways, but unfortunatly thats not the reality
Sadly theres no chance that millions of players gather and stop buying stuff. Would like to see that for this crossover bs, but since there will always be enough buyer i just make my money with them.
I thought secret lairs are supposed to be limited-print and print-to-order products? Doesn't that mean that there WILL be scarcity if no one orders more?
At 8:30 what they mean is: we will make enough units that it sells out in a day. They probably discovered that if it doesn't sell out in a week, it takes weeks or months to sell out. I did a lot of this type of work and most of the sales happened in the first 24 hours of the lifespan of a sale. So I can see why it isn't very attractive to sell something at quantities for 72+ hours. What's strange is that they can't admit that this is a luxury product, and if it is, then it's really bothersome that they are making cards that only exist in the luxury side. The best thing we can do is vote with our wallets, if we don't want this.
Hear me out, what if he just said that publicly to induce *fake fomo* but they really printed a ton due to it being a property which would obviously have a ton of demand. There’s no way they only printed a small amount of this product with this kind of property featured and Disney as well potentially pressuring for sales
I can realistically see people being angry about the limited supply of the marvel lairs. By not doing the print to demand model it's essentially passing up on potential profits, but now it looks like they're just sitting on the supply of the unsold lairs.
Could pay the money or deal with fomo OR Do neither and proxy them! One of the best things about proxying or printing them yourself is there’s never any manufactured shortages to produce a sense of “FOMO” to pressure you to buy cards! Everything’s always available and it’s all the same price.
If there were proper proxy makers, I would spend money with them. Most of what I find is on Etsy, and cottage-core levels of sickeningly cute. Hard pass.
@@Astralfirework I assume my original response was removed because I posted a link but If you’ve had bad experiences in the past that’s fair. I respect your opinion. My play group and I have had really good luck with the “printing proxies” site. They’ve been awesome and really high quality.
My only wish I could ever make is that Hasbro goes under and WotC being free of them takes it as a message to be better. They’re not as prominent as they used to be in my opinion and eventually will kill their own brands off even if it is MTG or D&D.
The fact Iron Man isn't using Energy pretty much confirms to me that even with the attempt to bring Energy to relevance with Fallout and MH3 that it's a totally dead theme. Also why isn't he an Artificer that's literally all he does
I have intentionally been buying much less product. And have avoided the Secret Lairs on purpose. Hoping that as others may do the same sales will fall and the company will be forced to make changes. If things are selling. Then they will just keep doing what they are doing.
If I ran a company like this, I'd make various at versions. One art would be some fancy thing that'd be limited and collectable ($$$), other arts would be more tame and a bit more bland ($). That way, in a tournament setting, everyone could have access to legit copies of the cards, people could still feel good with collecting, and I'd still get money while keeping the card game going. There's gonna be some flaws with a system like that, nothing is perfect, but at the very least there wouldn't be anything shady happening
@davidreeves4165 idk whether you are a time traveller from the year 2020 or what? But mate that's exactly how they don't do it. It can take a year or more for a unique tournament staple in a secret lair to be reprinted in a normal format. What the comment you're replying to proposed making sure they aren't exclusive unique cards that are chase cards because there's no functional copy, but that are exclusive and unique because of art, flavor and border formatting.
@@davidreeves4165 That's my bad 😅 I thought secret lairs was them making original cards that also had original arts, not taking an established card and then doing different arts 😂 I should also specify however, in my comment I meant more along the lines of effectively different levels of a secret lair. Have a very limited number of arts that won't ever be made again, then have the same cards but with different, less fancy arts come out that would be printed in excess of demand so there would be a lot more. Also reprints of those cards come out every so often to ensure there's always plenty. Again though, that would be if all the cards on the set were new cards, not just new arts on cards that already exist
I’m just confused as to why they don’t keep them print to demand. Wouldn’t they make more money if it was instead of limited quantity sold? It’s making the secondary market really hard for people to pick up certain ones because of the fomo and price spikes. If I’m not able to get one then I’ll happily proxy instead of paying an arm and leg from a secondary seller that potentially scalped a handful of them
Omg a company is promising their shareholders that they are going to make that is crazy! Almost like they are trying to keep shareholders happy or something! Unacceptable
Didn't they switch to the print-to-demand model when that special plainswalker box that had Jace the mind sculptor in it and 7 or 8 other walkers sold out before people could click the order button by scalpers and they canceled a ton of orders? Perhaps they should limit the number anyone can buy and see how fast they sell out then. (They wont)
Part of the Secret Lair decline, I GUESS, it's strongly linked to the print of brand new cards on them, rather than just reprints and re-skins. I totally understand those people that rage-quit buying SL ..
WotC has followed this business model since MTG launched. We have Uncommon, Rare, and Mythic Rare cards for a reason - limit supply of in-demand cards, drive sales. With that in mind, we shouldn't be surprised, SLD is aimed squarely at collectors and will always have limited runs to drive sales and financial value.
We can fight them on making short run functionally unique cards in sets like this that don't ruin our play experience. The Ikoria alt arts were a perfect example of chase secret lairs nobody minded
This is why i proxy and get singles from stores. Secret lairs are just scapler products now. Havent bought one since i got the lgbt charity one that is some of my favorite art. buy them from an local game store to support them.
The FOMO Secret Lair I would not buy, but the Print on Demand cards like the Secret Lair Extra Life I'll definitely buy since those are at least going to a good charity.
It's a bummer that publicly traded corporations inevitably devolve to ens***ification. I hate seeing the proliferation of sighted anti-consumer practices across the hobbies I enjoy :(
Well I was going to try to get at least one of these, but if they're going to sell out immediately because of market manipulation like this, I may as well not even try. Everyone else might rush to guarantee they get one of these, but I'm good. I'll just hand-write my own proxy if it comes down to it.
I love how the CEO is cast like some sort of sorcerer. As though each and every Secret Lair hasn't been completely snarled and sold out practically instantly. MBAs think they're so clever...
I've been saying it all along, about time they admit it their market manipulation, though they've always claimed they don't worry about the secondary market.
Ironically, saying it’s going to immediately sell out and other people FOMO, just makes it less attractive. I wouldn’t mind grabbing one or two of these specific ones. But if it’s going to immediately be gone, why bother trying. Hasbro isn’t going to catch waiting up for it.
As a content creator, I dun think u should be advocating proxies, if players dun play with real cards, the coy dun find it profitable, they decided to end printing the physical product, where will be your value?
These are all reprints so it doesn’t affect the game play. Probably actually makes it cheaper. They way over printed from 2020 to 2023 so if they actually make something rare good.
And This is why I stopped buying every single single secret lair and now only by the ones that I really really want, and if it makes me do something shouldn't have to do then I'll just go without, and the universe is within cards are always super rare in the packs especially The Walking Dead ones they were extremely rare to pull
Yep I really wanted these sets but I'm officially done with secret lairs. I'll never buy another nor will I proxy the cards or even second hand purchase any secret lair card until they go back to a reasonable print on demand or a full blown unlimited preorder system so everyone who wants one can get one.
Maybe it's better to wait for these cards to be offered on the secondary market. I wanted to buy the Iron Man Secret Lair (I have never bought a Secret Lair before), but after hearing how they plan to annoy their customers with manufactured scarcity I'm out. Edit:You persuaded me. I'll just leave it.
the sad truth is for most of it's history Magic has been a collectible first, and a game 2nd and the gap between the two has just widened and gotten worse over the years as Wizards has exploited the collectible side more and more
None of this really seems like news, seemed super obvious SLD cards are scarce on purpose no difference than the scarcity of a mythic fractured foil in a collectors pack.
Whaaaat!? Hasbro and WotC thinking of and treating their customers as extortable piggy banks. Oh wow, how shocking, I didn't think either of these companies was evil based on their prior actions and circle of business associates.
UB is fine for commander, but it should absolutely not be allowed to sully 60 card constructed formats. The fortnitification of MTG is genuinely painful to experience.
Good thing I wasn't spending money w hasbro, proxy every secret lair and every card over a dollar. I print them in bulk just to make the art less special.
Can someone explain why a company would do this? The number one goal of a company is to make money. Why would a company limit their ability to make money? I don't doubt for one minute Hasbro would make a couple, if not more, million additional dollars if this was not limited.
Look , i like proxys for expensive cards and such but when people proxy whole decks and win the table each and every time because they built a "stronger" deck due to grabbing a list. Is just lame , like i can see this with maybe 🤔 legacy or even power 9 stuff but the rest is kinda crazy.
I miss when secret lairs weren't unique cards, but just alternate art reskins of stuff.
don't you remember the outrage of Secret Lair walking dead drama?
They could just preprint a first run, then print on demand once the run sells out. But of course that would make too much sense and benefit the consumer.....
Fomo drives sales. Print on demand does not. Most of these massive corporations have already hit their peak and any more growth is not realistic using any other tactics.
And the whale collectors would pitch a fit again.
@@AngelusNielsonI’m starting to think Ahab had a point
@@AngelusNielson So what? Fuck whales. Fuck rich people. Normal people deserve to have things too.
Honestly it wouldn't be a bad idea and a way they could do it so people can still get stuff on the collectors side of things is have the first run be serialized. That way people who super buy in get something exclusive like it is now but people who don't care about that can still get a copy of the cards after first run is over.
It's good that Wizards told us not so long ago that proxies are a good thing
I didn’t hear that bullshit
You suck as a human being @@anthonysulpizio2269
@@anthonysulpizio2269they sold their own luxury proxies
@@anthonysulpizio2269 Magic 30th 😂
absolutely
In other news, the sky is blue.
Remember the days were people complained about 3 stupid bans and gave away commander to wizards? Crazy times indeed!
Bans should have always been discussed at the table.
The days where cEDH players forced commander into the greedy hands of Wizards with incel behavior and death threats? Crazy indeed indeed!
@Gillandria doubt. I assume it was Wizards using bots till a name and shame happens. Always assume the Corpo's that benefit are at fault unless proven otherwise
Commander isnt a sanctioned format who cares play what you want we don't need wizards or a 3rd party controlling the games we play at home and hell even stores my local dont give a dam we all play with proxys and use whatever we want for the most part we use are own bans. Play how you want talk to your play group I promise you will be playing with your favorite decks
@@UmbraBreethat kind of conspiratorial thinking is unnecessary. Sometimes, stuff is exactly what it looks like. I don’t trust WotC/Hasbro at all, but to jump from “corpos will screw your over for money” to “they’re faking death threats by using bots to harass a group of people in order to seize control of a community run format instead of just using a lawyer like a normal company” is a massive leap in logic.
Someone should check if any of the investors buy any of the secret lairs and resell them in the aftermarket cause I think that's called something
Late stage capitalism?
Trust me real investors don’t do that. Investing in something like magic is a sin for investors. They have to see a profit and the way cards are they can lose value in a heart beat
The worst part is these Marvel secret lairs are $10 more expensive and they expect to sell out immediately. They raised the prices not because they have to for licensing, but because they know they can get away with it to make more.
Blame the whales and investors that have too much money. Actual players aren't driving these prices. Greedy secondary market is.
Your welcome
No way. Are you actually telling me there wasn't a cardboard shortage? Can't believe it, impossible!!
What’s the difference between printing a secret lair drop in scarcity, and printing a limited run of serialized cards?
Serialized cards can still be played as the regular version. I have an Ezuri, Claw of Progress and my brother has a serialized Ezuri, Claw of Progress.
Whats more shocking then this (because I already knew) is that there are still enough ppl out there buying these products, spending a ton of money. Change starts with the customer unfortunatly, if they can sell their stuff why should they change anything. I mean in my mind they should anyways, but unfortunatly thats not the reality
WOTC is fueled by mostlt idiots/normies, finance bros, FOMO and whales.
They're too big to fall, so they can do whatever they want.
Sadly theres no chance that millions of players gather and stop buying stuff.
Would like to see that for this crossover bs, but since there will always be enough buyer i just make my money with them.
Theres also scalpers who will buy up a bunch of stock and then sell way above value because they know people want them and there's limited number.
sadly people have their own criteria and havee different opinion/taste than you?
weird take
I would rather say that problem is that there’s still enough people buying from scalpers
MPCfill calls to me like the green goblin mask. It gets louder every day
8:38 but they already created the Fear of Missing Out, card # 136 of the Duskmourn main set. 👺
Lets be real that card should be the new mascot of WOTC.
@@coldshoulder8550 either that or Loot, the Key to Everything
I thought secret lairs are supposed to be limited-print and print-to-order products? Doesn't that mean that there WILL be scarcity if no one orders more?
At 8:30 what they mean is: we will make enough units that it sells out in a day. They probably discovered that if it doesn't sell out in a week, it takes weeks or months to sell out. I did a lot of this type of work and most of the sales happened in the first 24 hours of the lifespan of a sale. So I can see why it isn't very attractive to sell something at quantities for 72+ hours. What's strange is that they can't admit that this is a luxury product, and if it is, then it's really bothersome that they are making cards that only exist in the luxury side. The best thing we can do is vote with our wallets, if we don't want this.
Hear me out, what if he just said that publicly to induce *fake fomo* but they really printed a ton due to it being a property which would obviously have a ton of demand. There’s no way they only printed a small amount of this product with this kind of property featured and Disney as well potentially pressuring for sales
You know things are going sideways when a pretty fun loving channel turns to commentary on the current climate of the game.
I thought we were getting a full marvel set ala lord of the rings. Are you telling me these are exclusive for the secret lair drop??
No we are getting a full set and a spiderman set
And sir, that is why we're thriving with MTG community :)
My whole playgroup uses this company they’re awesome!
Proxies ftw!
Let's proxy to demand then :)
Already do I normally never buy real cards anymore.
yessir
@@printingproxies thanks to mtg print im able to play the game with out proxys I would be playing starter decks.
This is my argument against people claiming cards need to be cheap. They already are. You just need a decent printer.
@@Mirthful_Midori ya wizards them selfs sold us proxies lol
I can decide between whether Hasbro is choking the golden goose again or is fleecing us like a schoolyard bully.
Por que no los dos?
Who's this "us"? Wizards hasn't gotten my money in YEARS.
At this point, the only reason why I would even try to get one at the release would be to just resell it
Not Surprised
I can realistically see people being angry about the limited supply of the marvel lairs. By not doing the print to demand model it's essentially passing up on potential profits, but now it looks like they're just sitting on the supply of the unsold lairs.
Could pay the money or deal with fomo
OR
Do neither and proxy them!
One of the best things about proxying or printing them yourself is there’s never any manufactured shortages to produce a sense of “FOMO” to pressure you to buy cards! Everything’s always available and it’s all the same price.
If there were proper proxy makers, I would spend money with them. Most of what I find is on Etsy, and cottage-core levels of sickeningly cute. Hard pass.
@@Astralfirework I assume my original response was removed because I posted a link but If you’ve had bad experiences in the past that’s fair. I respect your opinion. My play group and I have had really good luck with the “printing proxies” site. They’ve been awesome and really high quality.
My only wish I could ever make is that Hasbro goes under and WotC being free of them takes it as a message to be better. They’re not as prominent as they used to be in my opinion and eventually will kill their own brands off even if it is MTG or D&D.
To the surprise of NO ONE! If I can't get my copy of Storm, I'll play for a high-quality proxy.
Fun fact: proxies of Secret Lair cards are just as inexpensive as regular proxies.
i often hear from various lgs that they can never get more than a handful of the secret lairs.
The fact Iron Man isn't using Energy pretty much confirms to me that even with the attempt to bring Energy to relevance with Fallout and MH3 that it's a totally dead theme. Also why isn't he an Artificer that's literally all he does
This is fine, I'll just proxy anything I want to play with and not give them a dime.
I have intentionally been buying much less product. And have avoided the Secret Lairs on purpose. Hoping that as others may do the same sales will fall and the company will be forced to make changes. If things are selling. Then they will just keep doing what they are doing.
If I ran a company like this, I'd make various at versions. One art would be some fancy thing that'd be limited and collectable ($$$), other arts would be more tame and a bit more bland ($). That way, in a tournament setting, everyone could have access to legit copies of the cards, people could still feel good with collecting, and I'd still get money while keeping the card game going. There's gonna be some flaws with a system like that, nothing is perfect, but at the very least there wouldn't be anything shady happening
You literally just described secret lairs
@davidreeves4165 idk whether you are a time traveller from the year 2020 or what? But mate that's exactly how they don't do it. It can take a year or more for a unique tournament staple in a secret lair to be reprinted in a normal format. What the comment you're replying to proposed making sure they aren't exclusive unique cards that are chase cards because there's no functional copy, but that are exclusive and unique because of art, flavor and border formatting.
@@davidreeves4165 That's my bad 😅 I thought secret lairs was them making original cards that also had original arts, not taking an established card and then doing different arts 😂 I should also specify however, in my comment I meant more along the lines of effectively different levels of a secret lair. Have a very limited number of arts that won't ever be made again, then have the same cards but with different, less fancy arts come out that would be printed in excess of demand so there would be a lot more. Also reprints of those cards come out every so often to ensure there's always plenty. Again though, that would be if all the cards on the set were new cards, not just new arts on cards that already exist
2:46 how are you a nerd on the internet and not know who Hatsune Miku is?
Well i still dont realy know what it is xd
Not everyone likes Japanese culture, much less anime otaku culture.
This might just be the first time i proxy cards. Kinda dont want to give them my money for a while now
Not about popularity, it's about scalpers
And normies with several case of FOMO
Bought the Frazetta drop, cards arrived 4 weeks later. Seemed fast to me. This feels fomo and made for investors. Proxytown it is.
wait a company told its investors that the product will sell? WHERE are the NEWS ?
I’m just confused as to why they don’t keep them print to demand. Wouldn’t they make more money if it was instead of limited quantity sold? It’s making the secondary market really hard for people to pick up certain ones because of the fomo and price spikes. If I’m not able to get one then I’ll happily proxy instead of paying an arm and leg from a secondary seller that potentially scalped a handful of them
Shocking, I know
All I hear is that the set will be a good investment and worthwhile to pick up. Instead of worthless due to overprinting
Omg a company is promising their shareholders that they are going to make that is crazy! Almost like they are trying to keep shareholders happy or something! Unacceptable
Didn't they switch to the print-to-demand model when that special plainswalker box that had Jace the mind sculptor in it and 7 or 8 other walkers sold out before people could click the order button by scalpers and they canceled a ton of orders? Perhaps they should limit the number anyone can buy and see how fast they sell out then. (They wont)
Part of the Secret Lair decline, I GUESS, it's strongly linked to the print of brand new cards on them, rather than just reprints and re-skins.
I totally understand those people that rage-quit buying SL ..
WotC has followed this business model since MTG launched. We have Uncommon, Rare, and Mythic Rare cards for a reason - limit supply of in-demand cards, drive sales. With that in mind, we shouldn't be surprised, SLD is aimed squarely at collectors and will always have limited runs to drive sales and financial value.
We can fight them on making short run functionally unique cards in sets like this that don't ruin our play experience. The Ikoria alt arts were a perfect example of chase secret lairs nobody minded
This is why i proxy and get singles from stores. Secret lairs are just scapler products now. Havent bought one since i got the lgbt charity one that is some of my favorite art. buy them from an local game store to support them.
secret lairs have always been that.
The fact that most of us arnt surprised might be the worst part. Possible we are part of the problem.
They literally printed a card called FOMO, you think it wouldn't be one of their main policies?
how does a product sells out before release? x'D
Yeah we already knew that. They're pretty upfront about that.
Then the RCC won't be able to say anything when they won't get secret lair
We need to treat Secret Lair the same way we treated the OGL in D&D. Send a message
Well, yeah. Scalpers are going to instantly buy them out, and then give them a 10,000% markup.
Not surprised. Namco does the same thing with their Gundam models. Every model is a limited model count.
In other news water is wet and the sun is a ball of fire.
I'll enjoy my proxies of the marvel cards.
His last name is very accurate, i can give him that.
The FOMO Secret Lair I would not buy, but the Print on Demand cards like the Secret Lair Extra Life I'll definitely buy since those are at least going to a good charity.
I would say "lets all just not buy it" but that doesn't matter because the speculators and scalper bots will basically make sure they sell out.
I say let those "people" buy out all the product. Let those products rot in their storage binders.
Shoutout for the PSA please vote and often. Don’t care of you affiliation, it’s our right
It's a bummer that publicly traded corporations inevitably devolve to ens***ification. I hate seeing the proliferation of sighted anti-consumer practices across the hobbies I enjoy :(
Well I was going to try to get at least one of these, but if they're going to sell out immediately because of market manipulation like this, I may as well not even try. Everyone else might rush to guarantee they get one of these, but I'm good. I'll just hand-write my own proxy if it comes down to it.
We know? How hard could it be to print more cards
I love how the CEO is cast like some sort of sorcerer. As though each and every Secret Lair hasn't been completely snarled and sold out practically instantly.
MBAs think they're so clever...
Easy fix. Let them sell the lairs for a month(maybe 2 weeks) and close it. Print only what was ordered.
Hot take: they sell out of these then make them the commanders of the commander decks that come out when the set releases😅
I realy cannot understand that people that are into Trading cards are upset by this. And by the way this are mostly official proxies
class action lawsuit sue them for this they are abuse us and we need to put a stop to it.
I've been saying it all along, about time they admit it their market manipulation, though they've always claimed they don't worry about the secondary market.
I mean. Every Magic: The Gathering card artificial scarcity.
Wouldn’t they make more money if it was print to demand? Crazy
Ironically, saying it’s going to immediately sell out and other people FOMO, just makes it less attractive. I wouldn’t mind grabbing one or two of these specific ones. But if it’s going to immediately be gone, why bother trying. Hasbro isn’t going to catch waiting up for it.
As a content creator, I dun think u should be advocating proxies, if players dun play with real cards, the coy dun find it profitable, they decided to end printing the physical product, where will be your value?
These are all reprints so it doesn’t affect the game play. Probably actually makes it cheaper. They way over printed from 2020 to 2023 so if they actually make something rare good.
already printed my foil proxies and built a storm deck.
And This is why I stopped buying every single single secret lair and now only by the ones that I really really want, and if it makes me do something shouldn't have to do then I'll just go without, and the universe is within cards are always super rare in the packs especially The Walking Dead ones they were extremely rare to pull
Yep I really wanted these sets but I'm officially done with secret lairs. I'll never buy another nor will I proxy the cards or even second hand purchase any secret lair card until they go back to a reasonable print on demand or a full blown unlimited preorder system so everyone who wants one can get one.
Maybe it's better to wait for these cards to be offered on the secondary market. I wanted to buy the Iron Man Secret Lair (I have never bought a Secret Lair before), but after hearing how they plan to annoy their customers with manufactured scarcity I'm out.
Edit:You persuaded me. I'll just leave it.
There’s a “Disney Vault” reference in there somewhere…
I'm actually crushed. I want two of them hopefully I can get my hands on it.
proxy time. ever since i started proxying my cards i dont get stressed anymore. its wonderful
the sad truth is for most of it's history Magic has been a collectible first, and a game 2nd and the gap between the two has just widened and gotten worse over the years as Wizards has exploited the collectible side more and more
Yea Im waiting for a Marneus Calgar reprint...dont worry it's only been about 2,5 years now.
And this is why I'm proxying my Marvel cards!
Is it just me or is it incredibly stupid to short supply a product when selling more means more revenue
None of this really seems like news, seemed super obvious SLD cards are scarce on purpose no difference than the scarcity of a mythic fractured foil in a collectors pack.
Anyone wanna take odds on Storm, Force of Nature being banned if she ends up being stupidly broken?
remember when they used secret lairs to support charitys?
Whaaaat!? Hasbro and WotC thinking of and treating their customers as extortable piggy banks.
Oh wow, how shocking, I didn't think either of these companies was evil based on their prior actions and circle of business associates.
I am SO gonna proxy these, if I want them.
UB is fine for commander, but it should absolutely not be allowed to sully 60 card constructed formats. The fortnitification of MTG is genuinely painful to experience.
Good thing I wasn't spending money w hasbro, proxy every secret lair and every card over a dollar. I print them in bulk just to make the art less special.
Can someone explain why a company would do this? The number one goal of a company is to make money. Why would a company limit their ability to make money? I don't doubt for one minute Hasbro would make a couple, if not more, million additional dollars if this was not limited.
Wait until you hear about the diamond market
I wouldn't mind playing Generals Commander
If only you were in charge of wotc.. Then every corporate decision you'd make would be perfect.
Obviously? Did you think they weren't previously?
What do people expect. That's capitalism baby
Maybe they will admit that the reserved list is a scam.
That webpage is gonna break so fast
Look , i like proxys for expensive cards and such but when people proxy whole decks and win the table each and every time because they built a "stronger" deck due to grabbing a list.
Is just lame , like i can see this with maybe 🤔 legacy or even power 9 stuff but the rest is kinda crazy.
I'm about to send ANOTHER nasty email to WotC THE 2nd email in the same week!