@@Zeckenschwarm he started another channel called Astro Pro to separate his space content and his earth geography content, but he just reposted his atlas pro space videos there and made one unique video for the channel then it kinda dried up
I think a big part about ocean world habitability might be wether or not the oceans are in direct contact with a rocky surface or at least have vulcanic activity circulate minerals and stuff into it. Otherwise I suspect they might be watery deserts not totally but almost completely hostile to life. So you'd rather want Ocean worlds with comparatively low water levels. I think in our solar system Europa would still qualify as might enceladus while callisto and ganimede might not. Then again I am just regurgitating what I heard on other channels so who really knows. It's all speculation anyways.
Not really new. There're a few books and bad movies with the idea. All draw heavy inspiration from Atlantis and Earth aquatic life. So something original would be refreshing.
I'm so so happy to see more space videos. These are my absolute favourite and I was sad to see your secondary channel not so active. Glad to see them here!
@@AtlasPro1Upload more vids on Astro Pro and also for this channel can you do some more geology content you’ve only made 2 geology vids and I’d love to see more. Also has your fossil collection increased since then and have you found a sea scorpion yet?
I went to the Texas Star Party eclipse event and there was an astronomer there, David Kipping, who works at Columbia University and has 3 days of observations with JWST in October that could potentially be the first exomoon confirmation! He explained all his research and why they selected their specific observation, basically it's be best candidate there is, and they'll be using the transit method but to ensure it's a moon it needs to have a consistent dip of lighting relative to the exoplanet. Or something. 😂 But in October we may have confirmation!
I love your videos, they are really like those NatGeo or Discovery channel programmes I used to watch as a kid. I appreciate your work, it feels kinda nostalgic. Thank you!
cool worlds is a youtuber who is a professor at idk which one, a US university who runs the lab for exomoons and how we could find them. last i remember they couldn't get any time with the james web telescope so haven't found any but their models show they should be able to find them at the locations they wanted to look at if there are any. also i love that space engineers is now big enough that you got images of the character im guessing when you googled astronaut what ever idk what you would use to get something of that style. makes me happy cause i love that game. that or you play the game which is also cool. edit: rewatching the bits that had it im guess that they are just the first 3d model that comes up. or at least is easily used in a lot of thing as i know it is usable in source film maker (I've seen it in another video that i know used source film maker) and VRage 2 cause thats the engine the game runs off of.
If you're looking for ideas for a future space video, I'd love to see one on what the climate and weather would be like on a terraformed Mars. The distribution of landmasses, the shallowness of its ocean basins, the lack of a stabilizing moon that would also tidally stir its oceans, the height and density of its atmosphere, the gravity, the eccentricity and distance of its orbit, the basaltic nature of its surface rocks, there's so many factors that would be wildly different from Earth and would surely produce radically different results.
I love how you measured the water in ZL (zettaliters) instead of something weird like billions of cubic kilometers (apparently it's illegal to use anything above kilo for meters. Fun fact: 1 zettaliter = 1 cubic megameter) It's so nice to see someone actually using the really big metric prefixes for once. Small details like this is exactly why i love this channel so much!
I think it’s fairly hard to actually overheat a moon. Io is the only example of this in the solar system and it orbits Jupiter, an extremely large planet that has a mass of over 300 earth masses, and does so at about the same distance of our moon.
Excellent video! This exomoon hypothesis overcomes two obstacles to habitability: 1. Tidal lock for Red Dwarf Stars, and 2. The disproportionate number of gas giants (which are most likely lifeless) that we've discovered. For Red Dwarf stars, exomoons around a gas giant may also be more protected from stellar volitility by their host planet's large magnetosphere. However, if a moon is inside of a gas giant's magnetosphere, wouldn't that mean the surface would get bombarded by radiation? (Radiation via Van Allen belts...)
While it has been generally assumed that magnetospheres may protect re dwarf planets from their stars stellar fits modeling of the magnetic environment of many low mass M dwarf stars has found that the so called habitable zone for liquid water around these stars falls within the Alfven sphere of the star the region known more generally as the stellar corona where the stars magnetic fields can drive loops of plasma to rise up far above the surface and interact via direct magnetic reconnection events between those plasma loops the process responsible for generating coronal mass ejections and stellar flares. The consequence of this is that rather than acting as a protective shield magnetic forces would be capable of driving direct reconnection events between the star and the planet with the planets magnetic field acting more like a lightning rod for solar flares and coronal mass ejections with the epicenter of energy release being the unfortunate planet. Thus far the published results of JWST's observations of these low mass M dwarf stars planets transit light curves is most consistent with the no atmosphere model which is what would be expected if these kinds of direct reconnection events occur. Though only a limited number of these observations made during the proprietary period of observations have been published yet it is thus far not off to a very promising start for these low mass M dwarf stars.
This one was a bundle of fun! Thank you. As a big space nerd, I greatly appreciate this sort of speculation. There are so many possibilities out there! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
excellent video excellent content and duration and as a blind subscriber I can assure you that the dialogue was sufficient for even the acoustically attuned Thanks Cheers
I would love to see a follow-up or a rework of your undersea deep ocean geography video with more details about fans and undersea rivers. Maybe a collab with geologist Myron Cook? He's incredibly knowledgeable and has also done a video on the topic.
This makes me happy! I love that your videos are actually accurate and not just clickbaity, that's more than can be said about many astronomy channels on yt :))
I had the privilege of doing an exam of potential exobiology and do a brief research on Titan and it's hydrocarbon ecosystem. The fact that there's a non null probabilty there's methane based life on there it's absurd, and there's a high probability that most of the amminoacids and adenine can be synthesized with gamma rays hitting tholines is astounding. Of course i'm not saying alien life is real or probable, but i's fascinating nonetheless. The methane injection in the atmosphere is not of known nature and it's speculated that it could either be coming from the inner parts of Titan or as a byproduct of hydrocarbon metabolism. Also it snows benzene and there's carsic phenomena derived from methane corroding the benzene depositing on the coasts of methane lakes i mean that's so cool
*its hydrocarbon ecosystem. *non-null probability. *methane-based life. *is absurd. *amino acids. *I'm. *it's fascinating. *it could be coming either from... or as a byproduct. *, I mean, that's so cool. Nine mistakes. Please do better.
The habitable zone is based on having enough heat to have liquid water. It is possible to balance the excess heat from tidal heating with the reduced heat from being past the solar habitable zone. So having a large moon at the correct distance from Jupiter could have water on its surface. I don't know if it would have its atmosphere stripped, but playing with the sizes and distances should allow a habitable combination.
You're ignoring that a moon within the range from Jupiter to have enough tidal heating for liquid water would be well within Jupiter's radiation belt. We know this because Europa, which is already far enough away to be frozen over, is still within Juputer's radiation belt. The consequence is that the radiation would sterilise the surface and also evaporate any liquid water present. It would just be rock.
@@schadenfreude000 this is why I included the second paragraph saying you might have to play around with the sizes and distances to get a combination that actually works.
At one point I felt like watching a new Cosmos series narrated by Carl Sagan, well done, it was a fantastic work. (Kudos for the Vangelis style background music).
I could be wrong I swear I heard that our Moon actually does have an atmosphere, just an extremely sparse one that's so small that it essentially acts like there isn't an atmosphere.
Yes, these are referred to as exospheres and are produced when volatile organic compounds, frozen oxygen, and frozen water are released by solar and cosmic radiation that hit the moon's regolith
You are correct. The Moon's extremely tenuous atmosphere would be [I believe] a product of its volatile [e.g. ice] substances/compounds being broken down by Solar radiation. Another source would be from impacts. More important along these lines would be the thin atmospheres around satellites like Ganymede, where Nitrogen and Oxygen compounds are present, and some transient hydrogen, I understand.
The idea of an infinite shoreless bottomless ocean, is at the same time beautifully awe inspiring and positively vein drenchingly terrifying. One can imagine both a night of the most soul bonding love making, as well as one filled with the deepest horrors, compounding this strange dichotomy is the fact that these experiences need not even be in distinct days. Is this worth a book?
Moons of tidally locked gas giants have a pretty big catch: their parent planets would have, for their size, a tiny sphere of gravitational influence, which means said planets would not only have way fewer moons than more classic examples of their kind but also that their likely lonesome major moon would be an Io analog.
Great video, the planetary twilight factor is rarely ever mentioned and yet is a potentially critical factor in overcoming the issues of tidal locking. And the idea of a Jupiter/Saturn analog at say 1 AU from its star, with the possibility of a panspermia multi-moon ecosystem is a fascinating one.
I love this thank you so much! Titan and Luna both molten cores. Although I can't tell you how much water is contained by the moon probably billions of tons, I can tell you that water likes to proceed toward a center of gravity. That means that a moon with a semi molten core makes liquid water ice. Bacteria and archea could easily exist by eating rocks etc. ... "What is the Moon made of? Just like Earth, the Moon can be divided into the crust, mantle and core. At its very centre, the Moon has a solid iron core with a temperature of between 1,327°C and 1427°C. This is hot enough to create a surrounding molten liquid iron outer core, but not hot enough to warm the surface." The Moon | Natural History Museum Natural History Museum
I hope you appreciate the amount of danger you put yourself in on this expedition. You brought three Space Engineers with you! Three! It's a wonder you came back at all! Or worse, came back demonetized!
It's great to watch a video that feels like a movie or a story like this. And I'm doing the same with my channel. 1 story. THAT is what everyone needs.
Nice to see a fellow Space Engineer :) I do agree that moons are better candidates for finding extraterrestrial life but I see a potential problem with ocean moons. Without landmasses there would be few sources of minerals and nutrients that life needs to survive and evolve. So aside from deep sea hydrothermal vents I think there is a high chance that ocean worlds would be mostly barren and devoid of life. Ideally you'd still want a mostly rocky moon where geologic activity and ocean currents could move nutrient rich water into the epipelagic zone.
While I don't disagree with the desire to search for habitable exomoons around gas giants, due to there being far more moons than planets in a given star system, is that there was a failure to factor in the size and/or solar output of the host star that said Jovial planets and their exomoons would orbit. My guess is that there was an assumption that the host star is a "yellow" dwarf, similar to our own host star. The problem here is its far more likely to find dual or even triple star systems than it is single star systems. Large gas giants also tend to have magnetic fields so powerful that they trap absurd amounts of radiation, not only produced by the gas giant itself, but also the radiation captured from the host star, the combination of which would wholly prevent any chance of life from forming on any exomoon that orbits it. (I think it was the Cassini probe that brought a Gieger counter with it and measured Jupiters' radiation output) The only counter to this is if the exomoon itself had a strong enough magnetic field to keep out said radiation, which would change all the variable previously discussed. Personally, with all that in mind, I think we should be looking for habitable exoplanets instead of exomoons, so let me explain: 1) There are far, far more Red Dwarf stars in the galaxy than there are stars of any other type. 2) Red Dwarf star systems tend to not have enough material during its early formation to support gas giants, as gas giants tend to migrate inward towards their host star, preventing the formation of, destroying, or even kicking out any potential rocky planets. 3) Red Dwarfs tend to be single star systems and support more rocky worlds in its system than stars of other types. 4) While Red Dwarfs do also tend to be far more active than larger stars, the rocky planets that orbit them, on average, are at least Earth-sized, so are far more likely to have strong magnetic fields to keep out the intense radiation from its host star (unlike exomoons, which tend to be Mercury-sized at best and aren't capable of producing a magnetic field strong enough to keep out radiation from its host star, or even their host gas giants). I welcome any constructive criticism or rebuttals. I would like to be proven wrong.
Exomoon exploration is seriously underfunded. I'm glad you're using the channel to spread exomoon knowledge. The Cool Worlds Lab channel is run by astrophysicists and they have lots of videos on exomoons they study and want to study
Can't believe you made a video about exomoons, this is awesome! This video has given me a much deeper understanding of "planetary habitable zones" and how the relative factors conspire to determine an exomoons conditions. One thing I'm still a little confused about is the relationship between the stellar and the planetary habitable zone. Is it really the case that for an exomoon to be considered a reasonable candidate for life, it must inhabit both at the same time? Also - obligatory David Kipping shout-out, he must be giddy over this video :)
I am imagining a moon orbiting a "hot Jupiter" that wobbles at the extremes of habitability in such a way as to produce a stable but wildly variable climate. Like long winter shit
4:11 The size and composition of the atmosphere and tidal heating from the planet and other moons can certainly increase the chances of further out exo-moons being habitable.
@Atlaspro I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't manage to arrange for an interview on the topic with the leading astronomer on exo-moons research. He even has a youtube channel with his research team... cool worlds lab.
Thought I might as well bring this up... There is a species of frog, the Siamophryne troglodytes, which is primarily adapted for cave life. So there is infact another Apex Predator that lives primarily in caves. (SINCE IN THE VIDEO IT WAS JUST SALAMANDERS) It is a species of frog found in Thailand, specifically only in a small limestone cave. Although not as fair adapted as the Oln or Texas Blind Salamander, it is quite adapted for that lifestyle. Supports the theory that caves support amphibians the most.
I wonder what the maths are like for a Ganymede or Europa style sub surface ocean moon in the habitable region of the star, considering a good amount of the water will get vapourized to support an atmosphere, since liquid water needs atmospheric pressure to exist, there's a big risk that this could just lead to the gas giant planet stripping away that atmosphere overtime or the moon entering a runaway greenhouse effect, turning the water rich atmosphere effectively into an autoclave/pressure cooker sterilising everything (remember water vapour is also a greenhouse gas, it's just that on Earth there's a water cycle keeping it in check that we're also impacting through global warming). Idk I'm not a physicist, I do biology.
informative and well-done video (as per your usual!)-and soooo happy to have this channel back! my only (quite minor) comment about the production here is that the music (while *awesome*…ie, i put on headphones for it!) might be just a tad too loud-maybe by a click or two…
Cool, i think it's the right decision to have space videos back on the main channel. They provide variety and reach more people.
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Agree, glad it’s all on here
There is another channel?
@@Zeckenschwarm he started another channel called Astro Pro to separate his space content and his earth geography content, but he just reposted his atlas pro space videos there and made one unique video for the channel then it kinda dried up
I miss Astro pro. If he uploads all his space vids on there he’d get loads of us to sub. Pls make some vids for it atlas!
Three habitable ocean moons orbiting a gas giant? Sounds like a new worldbuilding idea
The world's already out there, you just gotta discover it!
I think a big part about ocean world habitability might be wether or not the oceans are in direct contact with a rocky surface or at least have vulcanic activity circulate minerals and stuff into it. Otherwise I suspect they might be watery deserts not totally but almost completely hostile to life. So you'd rather want Ocean worlds with comparatively low water levels.
I think in our solar system Europa would still qualify as might enceladus while callisto and ganimede might not.
Then again I am just regurgitating what I heard on other channels so who really knows. It's all speculation anyways.
Tbf, it could be argued that Bionicle did a very similar idea for worldbuilding
Not really new. There're a few books and bad movies with the idea. All draw heavy inspiration from Atlantis and Earth aquatic life. So something original would be refreshing.
@@AtlasPro1 you should send you video to @CoolWorldsLab
New atlas pro drop is always a good day!
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Oh shit, new Atlas!!!
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I'm so so happy to see more space videos. These are my absolute favourite and I was sad to see your secondary channel not so active. Glad to see them here!
They just take so long to make, needing to fly between all these different places!
He hasent uploaded a single video on their in over a year💀
@@AtlasPro1Upload more vids on Astro Pro and also for this channel can you do some more geology content you’ve only made 2 geology vids and I’d love to see more. Also has your fossil collection increased since then and have you found a sea scorpion yet?
I went to the Texas Star Party eclipse event and there was an astronomer there, David Kipping, who works at Columbia University and has 3 days of observations with JWST in October that could potentially be the first exomoon confirmation! He explained all his research and why they selected their specific observation, basically it's be best candidate there is, and they'll be using the transit method but to ensure it's a moon it needs to have a consistent dip of lighting relative to the exoplanet. Or something. 😂 But in October we may have confirmation!
Do you know about his channel the cool worlds lab?
David Kipping also has a TH-cam channel, Cool Worlds, that discusses this sort of stuff.
Dang
That is so cool! I was so happy to hear he got time on JWST time to look for Exomoons. Hope you enjoyed the eclipse!
He also has a TH-cam channel, Cool Worlds
Professor Kipping from Cool Worlds is somewhat an authority in this field. I love his content (as well as yours, of course!)
That's exactly who I thought of when I saw this title!
I love your videos, they are really like those NatGeo or Discovery channel programmes I used to watch as a kid. I appreciate your work, it feels kinda nostalgic. Thank you!
Nice to see a change from all the island videos. Enjoying the content.
But are moons & planets not just islands in their own right? Clearly, they must all be inhabited by birds
Can islands be Terramoons?
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Love the Space Engineer engineers helping you out on your journey!
Couldn't do this without them!
In a panspermian way, moons and planets could be islands as well... Thanks for the great video!
cool worlds is a youtuber who is a professor at idk which one, a US university who runs the lab for exomoons and how we could find them. last i remember they couldn't get any time with the james web telescope so haven't found any but their models show they should be able to find them at the locations they wanted to look at if there are any.
also i love that space engineers is now big enough that you got images of the character im guessing when you googled astronaut what ever idk what you would use to get something of that style. makes me happy cause i love that game. that or you play the game which is also cool.
edit: rewatching the bits that had it im guess that they are just the first 3d model that comes up. or at least is easily used in a lot of thing as i know it is usable in source film maker (I've seen it in another video that i know used source film maker) and VRage 2 cause thats the engine the game runs off of.
I was going to mention him. He has dedicated his life to exomoons. Huge respect to him.
David Kipping, the person you speak of, got their newest application for JWST time approved!
www.youtube.com/@CoolWorldsLab
Can't believe Caelan went into deep space just for a TH-cam video. What a guy!
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If you're looking for ideas for a future space video, I'd love to see one on what the climate and weather would be like on a terraformed Mars. The distribution of landmasses, the shallowness of its ocean basins, the lack of a stabilizing moon that would also tidally stir its oceans, the height and density of its atmosphere, the gravity, the eccentricity and distance of its orbit, the basaltic nature of its surface rocks, there's so many factors that would be wildly different from Earth and would surely produce radically different results.
Bro comes back every episode with an insane level up to his animations 👩🏽🍳🤌💋
This was fantastically done! On par with anything I've seen on Nova! Great Job!
one of my absolute favorite vids from you. keep up the stellar work!
Im here because i love James Cameron's "Pandora". This vid is perfect.👍😉
Space Engineers surprise cameo, never thought I’d see them here
Very informative, thank you!
Thanks for the awesome videos and all the amazing content!
I love how you measured the water in ZL (zettaliters) instead of something weird like billions of cubic kilometers (apparently it's illegal to use anything above kilo for meters. Fun fact: 1 zettaliter = 1 cubic megameter)
It's so nice to see someone actually using the really big metric prefixes for once. Small details like this is exactly why i love this channel so much!
thank you for taking the time to explore lol, I love your astronomy videos
This video is so underrated. I could serve as a basic for a Science Fiction movie about an aquatic race spanning several moons.
I think it’s fairly hard to actually overheat a moon. Io is the only example of this in the solar system and it orbits Jupiter, an extremely large planet that has a mass of over 300 earth masses, and does so at about the same distance of our moon.
Don't sweat it! Cool Worlds Lab is right behind ya! 😁
Surely the Dr. Kipping's Cool Worlds Lab approves of this content
Always interesting!
Happy to see you talking about exomoons, they've gotta be one of my favorite potentials in space!!
Camera man never dies.
Glad to see some space videos back on the main!!
Excellent video! This exomoon hypothesis overcomes two obstacles to habitability: 1. Tidal lock for Red Dwarf Stars, and 2. The disproportionate number of gas giants (which are most likely lifeless) that we've discovered. For Red Dwarf stars, exomoons around a gas giant may also be more protected from stellar volitility by their host planet's large magnetosphere. However, if a moon is inside of a gas giant's magnetosphere, wouldn't that mean the surface would get bombarded by radiation? (Radiation via Van Allen belts...)
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While it has been generally assumed that magnetospheres may protect re dwarf planets from their stars stellar fits modeling of the magnetic environment of many low mass M dwarf stars has found that the so called habitable zone for liquid water around these stars falls within the Alfven sphere of the star the region known more generally as the stellar corona where the stars magnetic fields can drive loops of plasma to rise up far above the surface and interact via direct magnetic reconnection events between those plasma loops the process responsible for generating coronal mass ejections and stellar flares.
The consequence of this is that rather than acting as a protective shield magnetic forces would be capable of driving direct reconnection events between the star and the planet with the planets magnetic field acting more like a lightning rod for solar flares and coronal mass ejections with the epicenter of energy release being the unfortunate planet.
Thus far the published results of JWST's observations of these low mass M dwarf stars planets transit light curves is most consistent with the no atmosphere model which is what would be expected if these kinds of direct reconnection events occur. Though only a limited number of these observations made during the proprietary period of observations have been published yet it is thus far not off to a very promising start for these low mass M dwarf stars.
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This one was a bundle of fun! Thank you. As a big space nerd, I greatly appreciate this sort of speculation. There are so many possibilities out there!
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Wow props to the camera guy for taking videos of the space craft and moons 😯
Haven’t seen this channel in a while ngl thank god bro’s still making content
Another excellent vid! Thank you !
exomoon? i sure do hope this isnt a recruitment ad for a certain company that might be lethal to work in
what the hell is asuka doing on here
I can already hear Brendaniel aggressively telling the Mimic to challenge him to a rap-battle.
Planetary Twilight, layers of oceans separated by a sphere of ice.. slapped my head so much my dog whined 😲
Such a cool perspective!
You have revolutionized a tiny little bit of sci-fi
I like the use of the SpaceEngineer character models
excellent video excellent content and duration and as a blind subscriber I can assure you that the dialogue was sufficient for even the acoustically attuned
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So cool to think about from a worldbuilding perspective! Great video
god, I love this channel
Absolutely love the Astro Pro idea! 🚀
I love your space videos
I would love to see a follow-up or a rework of your undersea deep ocean geography video with more details about fans and undersea rivers. Maybe a collab with geologist Myron Cook? He's incredibly knowledgeable and has also done a video on the topic.
I loved this video! The cosmos-like style (I watched the Neil DeGrass Tyson series) was really nice to see going on in the video.
This just makes me think of the chance of life starting on a moon and migrating to Earth.
I love your content whether it's earthbound or stellar forward.
This makes me happy! I love that your videos are actually accurate and not just clickbaity, that's more than can be said about many astronomy channels on yt :))
I just finished reading 2010: Odyssey Two by Arthur C. Clarke; this video is exactly what I need.
I had the privilege of doing an exam of potential exobiology and do a brief research on Titan and it's hydrocarbon ecosystem. The fact that there's a non null probabilty there's methane based life on there it's absurd, and there's a high probability that most of the amminoacids and adenine can be synthesized with gamma rays hitting tholines is astounding. Of course i'm not saying alien life is real or probable, but i's fascinating nonetheless. The methane injection in the atmosphere is not of known nature and it's speculated that it could either be coming from the inner parts of Titan or as a byproduct of hydrocarbon metabolism.
Also it snows benzene and there's carsic phenomena derived from methane corroding the benzene depositing on the coasts of methane lakes i mean that's so cool
*its hydrocarbon ecosystem. *non-null probability. *methane-based life. *is absurd. *amino acids. *I'm. *it's fascinating. *it could be coming either from... or as a byproduct. *, I mean, that's so cool.
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@@TheGrammarPolice7 I'm not a native speaker writing from smartphone with a broken screen. I think I done good enuff
Titan is by far the most fascinating of this solar system's moons! Liquid bodies on its surface give it so much potential!
@@AtlasPro1 and also it's atmospheric chemistry is wildl
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Cool Worlds in the best channel (and team) about exomoons
Love the regular videos soo much! but this is hitting my childhood wonder and am excited one of my fave YTber is also talking abt space!
I love this journey!
The habitable zone is based on having enough heat to have liquid water. It is possible to balance the excess heat from tidal heating with the reduced heat from being past the solar habitable zone.
So having a large moon at the correct distance from Jupiter could have water on its surface. I don't know if it would have its atmosphere stripped, but playing with the sizes and distances should allow a habitable combination.
You're ignoring that a moon within the range from Jupiter to have enough tidal heating for liquid water would be well within Jupiter's radiation belt. We know this because Europa, which is already far enough away to be frozen over, is still within Juputer's radiation belt. The consequence is that the radiation would sterilise the surface and also evaporate any liquid water present. It would just be rock.
@@schadenfreude000 this is why I included the second paragraph saying you might have to play around with the sizes and distances to get a combination that actually works.
Good to see the Astro Pro logo again!
At one point I felt like watching a new Cosmos series narrated by Carl Sagan, well done, it was a fantastic work. (Kudos for the Vangelis style background music).
Always nice😊
Back again watching the best channel on TH-cam
I love that your friends are just space engineers lol
Ganymede. That's where it's at. Even a little magnetosphere, auroras, thin atmosphere, lots of ice, and not too far from home. . .
20:11 I could imagine high atmosphere microbial life being taken by the magnetic fields to other moons of such a system.
I love this channel ❤
I get dopamine every time you upload!! I always learn something cool and new when you do :D
Thank you for doing what you do!
Amazing video yet again
Ur channel is very versatile and ur delivery feels very personal without delving into the parasocial
Looking forward to more!
I could be wrong I swear I heard that our Moon actually does have an atmosphere, just an extremely sparse one that's so small that it essentially acts like there isn't an atmosphere.
Yes, these are referred to as exospheres and are produced when volatile organic compounds, frozen oxygen, and frozen water are released by solar and cosmic radiation that hit the moon's regolith
You are correct. The Moon's extremely tenuous atmosphere would be [I believe] a product of its volatile [e.g. ice] substances/compounds being broken down by Solar radiation. Another source would be from impacts.
More important along these lines would be the thin atmospheres around satellites like Ganymede, where Nitrogen and Oxygen compounds are present, and some transient hydrogen, I understand.
The idea of an infinite shoreless bottomless ocean, is at the same time beautifully awe inspiring and positively vein drenchingly terrifying.
One can imagine both a night of the most soul bonding love making, as well as one filled with the deepest horrors, compounding this strange dichotomy is the fact that these experiences need not even be in distinct days.
Is this worth a book?
What a fashinating topic, sir
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I really do like your videos
Moons of tidally locked gas giants have a pretty big catch: their parent planets would have, for their size, a tiny sphere of gravitational influence, which means said planets would not only have way fewer moons than more classic examples of their kind but also that their likely lonesome major moon would be an Io analog.
Not to mention a tidally locked gas giant likely is extremely close to it's star, resulting in both planet and moon getting blowtorched
Great video, the planetary twilight factor is rarely ever mentioned and yet is a potentially critical factor in overcoming the issues of tidal locking. And the idea of a Jupiter/Saturn analog at say 1 AU from its star, with the possibility of a panspermia multi-moon ecosystem is a fascinating one.
this one was a particularly excellent video
I love this thank you so much! Titan and Luna both molten cores.
Although I can't tell you how much water is contained by the moon probably billions of tons, I can tell you that water likes to proceed toward a center of gravity. That means that a moon with a semi molten core makes liquid water ice. Bacteria and archea could easily exist by eating rocks etc. ...
"What is the Moon made of? Just like Earth, the Moon can be divided into the crust, mantle and core. At its very centre, the Moon has a solid iron core with a temperature of between 1,327°C and 1427°C. This is hot enough to create a surrounding molten liquid iron outer core, but not hot enough to warm the surface."
The Moon | Natural History Museum
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I hope you appreciate the amount of danger you put yourself in on this expedition.
You brought three Space Engineers with you! Three! It's a wonder you came back at all! Or worse, came back demonetized!
The ship in the thumbnail is cool.
I'm very excited for the Europa Clipper mission, been looking forward to it since it was announced
It's great to watch a video that feels like a movie or a story like this. And I'm doing the same with my channel. 1 story. THAT is what everyone needs.
I’m mad this wasn’t recommended to me. An older video was recommended and I happened to check your channel to find this.
Nice to see a fellow Space Engineer :) I do agree that moons are better candidates for finding extraterrestrial life but I see a potential problem with ocean moons. Without landmasses there would be few sources of minerals and nutrients that life needs to survive and evolve. So aside from deep sea hydrothermal vents I think there is a high chance that ocean worlds would be mostly barren and devoid of life. Ideally you'd still want a mostly rocky moon where geologic activity and ocean currents could move nutrient rich water into the epipelagic zone.
While I don't disagree with the desire to search for habitable exomoons around gas giants, due to there being far more moons than planets in a given star system, is that there was a failure to factor in the size and/or solar output of the host star that said Jovial planets and their exomoons would orbit. My guess is that there was an assumption that the host star is a "yellow" dwarf, similar to our own host star. The problem here is its far more likely to find dual or even triple star systems than it is single star systems. Large gas giants also tend to have magnetic fields so powerful that they trap absurd amounts of radiation, not only produced by the gas giant itself, but also the radiation captured from the host star, the combination of which would wholly prevent any chance of life from forming on any exomoon that orbits it. (I think it was the Cassini probe that brought a Gieger counter with it and measured Jupiters' radiation output) The only counter to this is if the exomoon itself had a strong enough magnetic field to keep out said radiation, which would change all the variable previously discussed.
Personally, with all that in mind, I think we should be looking for habitable exoplanets instead of exomoons, so let me explain:
1) There are far, far more Red Dwarf stars in the galaxy than there are stars of any other type.
2) Red Dwarf star systems tend to not have enough material during its early formation to support gas giants, as gas giants tend to migrate inward towards their host star, preventing the formation of, destroying, or even kicking out any potential rocky planets.
3) Red Dwarfs tend to be single star systems and support more rocky worlds in its system than stars of other types.
4) While Red Dwarfs do also tend to be far more active than larger stars, the rocky planets that orbit them, on average, are at least Earth-sized, so are far more likely to have strong magnetic fields to keep out the intense radiation from its host star (unlike exomoons, which tend to be Mercury-sized at best and aren't capable of producing a magnetic field strong enough to keep out radiation from its host star, or even their host gas giants).
I welcome any constructive criticism or rebuttals. I would like to be proven wrong.
Exomoon exploration is seriously underfunded. I'm glad you're using the channel to spread exomoon knowledge. The Cool Worlds Lab channel is run by astrophysicists and they have lots of videos on exomoons they study and want to study
16:10 something tells me that moon is inhabited by 200.000 life forms, with a million more well on the way.
Well done, well done.
Can't believe you made a video about exomoons, this is awesome! This video has given me a much deeper understanding of "planetary habitable zones" and how the relative factors conspire to determine an exomoons conditions. One thing I'm still a little confused about is the relationship between the stellar and the planetary habitable zone. Is it really the case that for an exomoon to be considered a reasonable candidate for life, it must inhabit both at the same time?
Also - obligatory David Kipping shout-out, he must be giddy over this video :)
I am imagining a moon orbiting a "hot Jupiter" that wobbles at the extremes of habitability in such a way as to produce a stable but wildly variable climate. Like long winter shit
Those are some Cool Worlds, if you know what I mean
Damn. This made me realize that I have been severely limiting myself with my science fiction stories. Exomoons are too underrated.
4:11 The size and composition of the atmosphere and tidal heating from the planet and other moons can certainly increase the chances of further out exo-moons being habitable.
@Atlaspro I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't manage to arrange for an interview on the topic with the leading astronomer on exo-moons research. He even has a youtube channel with his research team... cool worlds lab.
If it's one thing I've learnt in this video above all else -- Riess is very assuring.
Thought I might as well bring this up...
There is a species of frog, the Siamophryne troglodytes, which is primarily adapted for cave life.
So there is infact another Apex Predator that lives primarily in caves. (SINCE IN THE VIDEO IT WAS JUST SALAMANDERS)
It is a species of frog found in Thailand, specifically only in a small limestone cave. Although not as fair adapted as the Oln or Texas Blind Salamander, it is quite adapted for that lifestyle.
Supports the theory that caves support amphibians the most.
He’s back!
I wonder what the maths are like for a Ganymede or Europa style sub surface ocean moon in the habitable region of the star, considering a good amount of the water will get vapourized to support an atmosphere, since liquid water needs atmospheric pressure to exist, there's a big risk that this could just lead to the gas giant planet stripping away that atmosphere overtime or the moon entering a runaway greenhouse effect, turning the water rich atmosphere effectively into an autoclave/pressure cooker sterilising everything (remember water vapour is also a greenhouse gas, it's just that on Earth there's a water cycle keeping it in check that we're also impacting through global warming). Idk I'm not a physicist, I do biology.
How is this video not a collab with Cool Worlds?!
I would love to use this on a science fiction setup >:3
informative and well-done video (as per your usual!)-and soooo happy to have this channel back! my only (quite minor) comment about the production here is that the music (while *awesome*…ie, i put on headphones for it!) might be just a tad too loud-maybe by a click or two…
great video as always