Alternatively in aoe you can firebreath into disintegrate then ss for essence burst before the deep breath to get your charge blast stacks. This is a bit faster getting going if you can't farm the charge blast stacks before it's go time.
Just in time to level the evoker today, thanks as always for great info! 💪 Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:36 Leveling 1:07 Scalecommander Talents / Gameplay 4:01 Stat Priority / Gear / Consumables 5:57 Rotation 12:36 Devastation v Augmentation 14:53 Outro
I usually find it helpful on preheat videos to use speed @ 0.75 which helps a lot. Thanks again @preheat for the update, i will be maining dev regardlessof community preception and tierlists.
Out of all the hero talents I've played with, Scalecommander is the best visually. The fantasy is really there, you have the Mass disintegrate from Sarkareth and you also get the evokers bombarding your target (which looks SO COOL). I'm in love with the fantasy of it.
I didn't know that we can actually cancel deep breath by just pressing it again, i was so dumb in dungeons just like fell off, dying and accidently aggro from the long deep breath😅 thx for the guide preheat❤
i wish when people did these guides they put the abilities up on screen in order instead of just saying the spells cause then people watching this have to go and pause the video every few seconds to write down what ever they just said
He has the addon that does that on screen, but his guides are normally more for people familiar with evoker, plenty of beginner guides and I believe he has some somewhat dated beginner's guides.
Can you make a video explaining more in detail about mass disintegrate and a normal? I can't seem to wrap my head around it. When to chain and not chain or let it run completely out.
Idk if this is a bug or intended, but I feel it’s better to just cast one: either Fire Breath or Eternity Surge, use Disintegrate twice! Because you still get the spread if you immediately use the 2nd Disintegrate. Follow that up with the other Essence spending ability that you didn’t use yet, then use Shattering Star(if you don’t get any Essence Burst procs), and that will allow you to do another 2 Disintegrates with both having the spread from Mass. This method essentially grants you 4 Mass Disintegrates as opposed to only getting two from the way this video shows the rotation. Also, I feel like when you’re using Mass Disintegrate, that should mean you get 1.5 seconds of cooldown reduction per tick if you’re hitting 3 targets from the talent that reduces Empower abilities by 0.50 secs each time it deals damage. Yet it doesn’t really feel like it because that’s at least a 9 second reduction with back to back Mass Disintegrate.
I am pretty sure the 2nd chained disintegrate is just a visual bug. It will not cast as a mass disintegrate if you chain it from only 1 empowered spell cast. I might be wrong but I believe that's the case. Every disintegrate you continuously chain after a mass disintegrate will appear as if it's a mass disintegrate until you break it.
In raid the difference between Aug and dev is night and day. You just sit next to the two fury warriors a frost dk, a ret pally and watch your damage hit 3.5+ million DPS on every pull.
Question: is there not a target count where you stop using mass disintegrate and just use pyre? Since mass disintegrate only affects 3 targets? I realize this likely won’t be the case in most scenarios since the target count is likely very high.
What about, if your mass disintegrade drops to normal, but if you chain that mass disintegration, 3 beams still goes out instead one and its not buffed, but it hits 3 targets.
I just tried a dungeon doing both. BIG AOE pulls i was doing a lot of damage. (4.6m capped one pull) but my boss damage was really low. Using the normal build i was doing more overall DPS especially on boss fights etc. I think for large trash pack dungeons firestorm may be advantageous but disintegrate is safer and easier to use especially if the tank keeps moving out of the DPS.
@@BorgWolf359 If you look on TH-cam, there's not a single Flameshaper Devastation guide or build. Not even the big WoW guide websites dare to take a glimpse at the "weak" Flameshaper build. Such arrogance. Do these content creators understand that some people don't like the concept of Scalecommander Devastation Evoker? I don't care if this build deals less damage than Scalecommander. I find the concept of Flameshaper fun and engaging. Only the twitch streamer and TH-camr "Zuco WoW" did try a Flameshaper build, but Zuco is anyway one of the best WoW build guides on TH-cam. Zuco doesn't like Flameshaper or wants to play it, but he made a build and that is all that counts. Not even WoWhead did try this. W Zuco
@@MagiRazWhat is there? I see no Flameshaper build there. Some people hate playing scale commander, you know? Some people might want to find someone who actually explains Flameshaper
@@Calthrasful You asked why, the time stamp explains why. Because flameshaper is behind and isn't good to play right now. If you want someone to explain flameshaper, go look somewhere else. EZ.
If you're chaining normal disintegrate, the 4th and final tick will be added onto the first tick of the next normal. If you're doing mass into normal, the buffed 4th tick doesn't transfer over from mass to normal, so fully channeling the mass and then doing normal is overall better dps as that last tick on the mass disintegrate doesn't get thrown out the window.
I am confused. you are saying you have to let mass disinegrate full channel but in live right now you can recast before it ends to keep mass disingrate going. if you fish for procs and have mas essence you can chain this for awhile. am i wrong here? cause i see 3 beams going out continuously when i do this so i assume its working. also is it not a dps loss if you do fire breath straight into es shouldnt it be fire breath, md, ss,es,mass. in short?
When you have mass disintegrate up and active, it's a dps loss to just mass chain because that last buffed tick isn't rolling over to the normal disintegrate with the spell queuing. So it's better to fully channel the mass and get that fourth tick of buffed damage, and then chain by clipping and spell queuing normal disintegrates as the mass buff won't be wasted and discarded off to the aether.
I thought i was going to like mass disintegrate, but from what i can tell it makes the gameplay look way more clunky. Like chaining disintegrates always felt way more smooth. I'm not looking forward to it now. :/
It should be fine once you're used to the new mechanics. From what I understand, you can still chain, just not with mass disintegrate unless you have two charges. Just avoid chaining your last mass disintegrate charge into a normal one. Otherwise it should be as you've been playing.
@@corysteiner1218 It's something I'll definitely play around with, but i feel like it'll throw off the flow to the overall gameplay. I'll find out later today :P
I thought the same thing. Having to think different timings to do the same two habilities depending if you casted an empowered spell before or not makes it cluncky. I will learn to play it and master it. But im not happy with it. For me, a fun fantasy that was mass disintegrate has become one of the things I least like about scalecommander. Hope they change it and let us chain it and not lose damage when its “mass + normal”
I don’t know where the idea that Scalecommander is better dps is coming from. I’m a fairly competent evoker player, I’ve played it since release, but no matter how much I test, Flameshaper just barely pulls more damage than Scalecommander in both ST and AoE. It may be because my stats are mostly aug stats right now, so I have very high mastery, but testing on dummies where the mastery value is constant, I pull ahead on Flameshaper every time.
Please get rid of the back-ground playing as it is very distracting as my eyes keep moving away from the talent tree as the flashing doesn't help w/concentration on the talent trees?
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Alternatively in aoe you can firebreath into disintegrate then ss for essence burst before the deep breath to get your charge blast stacks. This is a bit faster getting going if you can't farm the charge blast stacks before it's go time.
Do you mean “as for essence burst (as as in azure strike)?
@@Cloudsong359 nope, he means SS as in shattering star
Just in time to level the evoker today, thanks as always for great info! 💪
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:36 Leveling
1:07 Scalecommander Talents / Gameplay
4:01 Stat Priority / Gear / Consumables
5:57 Rotation
12:36 Devastation v Augmentation
14:53 Outro
Adding these!
I usually find it helpful on preheat videos to use speed @ 0.75 which helps a lot. Thanks again @preheat for the update, i will be maining dev regardlessof community preception and tierlists.
here I am doing 1.5...
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Out of all the hero talents I've played with, Scalecommander is the best visually. The fantasy is really there, you have the Mass disintegrate from Sarkareth and you also get the evokers bombarding your target (which looks SO COOL). I'm in love with the fantasy of it.
I didn't know that we can actually cancel deep breath by just pressing it again, i was so dumb in dungeons just like fell off, dying and accidently aggro from the long deep breath😅 thx for the guide preheat❤
i wish when people did these guides they put the abilities up on screen in order instead of just saying the spells cause then people watching this have to go and pause the video every few seconds to write down what ever they just said
Look at the abilities which are scrolling just above the Details damage meter. That is showing the last 10 or so abilities used.
Seems like a personal problem lol
He has the addon that does that on screen, but his guides are normally more for people familiar with evoker, plenty of beginner guides and I believe he has some somewhat dated beginner's guides.
You dont even need a guide just go look at logs
Thanks preheat! Love the guides, great delivery, mwah, chefs kiss.
Can you make a video explaining more in detail about mass disintegrate and a normal? I can't seem to wrap my head around it. When to chain and not chain or let it run completely out.
I have never liked a class/spec more the dev, with the scalecommander hero talents. It's PEAK
Any chance at a Flameshaper guide? I know it isn't the recommended pick, but would still love your input on how to maximize it.
What target count should i be using pyre in aoe? Is it all the time with only a mass disintegrate to farm charged blast?
Idk if this is a bug or intended, but I feel it’s better to just cast one: either Fire Breath or Eternity Surge, use Disintegrate twice! Because you still get the spread if you immediately use the 2nd Disintegrate. Follow that up with the other Essence spending ability that you didn’t use yet, then use Shattering Star(if you don’t get any Essence Burst procs), and that will allow you to do another 2 Disintegrates with both having the spread from Mass. This method essentially grants you 4 Mass Disintegrates as opposed to only getting two from the way this video shows the rotation.
Also, I feel like when you’re using Mass Disintegrate, that should mean you get 1.5 seconds of cooldown reduction per tick if you’re hitting 3 targets from the talent that reduces Empower abilities by 0.50 secs each time it deals damage. Yet it doesn’t really feel like it because that’s at least a 9 second reduction with back to back Mass Disintegrate.
I am pretty sure the 2nd chained disintegrate is just a visual bug. It will not cast as a mass disintegrate if you chain it from only 1 empowered spell cast. I might be wrong but I believe that's the case. Every disintegrate you continuously chain after a mass disintegrate will appear as if it's a mass disintegrate until you break it.
Is that an addon that shows you what trinkets you can use? If so what is it called?
Really good video. I am playing WoW for the first time 👍🏻 if you're ever bored let me know :D could use some shoulder look if I do everything right.
Was just coming to your channel looking for a video like this. So glad it’s posted!
Is firestorm still not being used? Should i take it out? Trying a build with a little more aoe
what are the talents for pugs and talents for both a bit like a bit aoe dmg and a bit single dmg
In raid the difference between Aug and dev is night and day.
You just sit next to the two fury warriors a frost dk, a ret pally and watch your damage hit 3.5+ million DPS on every pull.
hey what do you think of the new changes to mage arcane and fire whats gonna be better and hows the best spec gonna preform in m+?
Question: is there not a target count where you stop using mass disintegrate and just use pyre? Since mass disintegrate only affects 3 targets? I realize this likely won’t be the case in most scenarios since the target count is likely very high.
Look at how much dmaage both do and calculate
What about, if your mass disintegrade drops to normal, but if you chain that mass disintegration, 3 beams still goes out instead one and its not buffed, but it hits 3 targets.
How are you not going to have a code for the build for us to paste?
How do you know if you have mass disintegrate?
With the buffs to firestorm, think we will use it?
I just tried a dungeon doing both. BIG AOE pulls i was doing a lot of damage. (4.6m capped one pull) but my boss damage was really low. Using the normal build i was doing more overall DPS especially on boss fights etc.
I think for large trash pack dungeons firestorm may be advantageous but disintegrate is safer and easier to use especially if the tank keeps moving out of the DPS.
@@jakegardner7558 patch isn't out yet. Class tuning is implemented on reset 😊
How is the add on called to get the spells in the middle of the screen like this?
Are these the talent trees from your wowhead guide?
Why no Flameshaper build?
THIS!
@@BorgWolf359 If you look on TH-cam, there's not a single Flameshaper Devastation guide or build. Not even the big WoW guide websites dare to take a glimpse at the "weak" Flameshaper build. Such arrogance. Do these content creators understand that some people don't like the concept of Scalecommander Devastation Evoker? I don't care if this build deals less damage than Scalecommander. I find the concept of Flameshaper fun and engaging. Only the twitch streamer and TH-camr "Zuco WoW" did try a Flameshaper build, but Zuco is anyway one of the best WoW build guides on TH-cam. Zuco doesn't like Flameshaper or wants to play it, but he made a build and that is all that counts. Not even WoWhead did try this. W Zuco
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@@MagiRazWhat is there? I see no Flameshaper build there. Some people hate playing scale commander, you know? Some people might want to find someone who actually explains Flameshaper
@@Calthrasful You asked why, the time stamp explains why. Because flameshaper is behind and isn't good to play right now. If you want someone to explain flameshaper, go look somewhere else. EZ.
I would play Aug if it had been the tank spec it was meant to be. Evokers have one spec and that's Devastation!
Yeah man - finally a guide for my main!! 🙏 have fun levelling today!
if I shoot a normal desintegrate can I shoot another one without losing damage? or I need to wait to it to finish to do the full damage?
If you're chaining normal disintegrate, the 4th and final tick will be added onto the first tick of the next normal.
If you're doing mass into normal, the buffed 4th tick doesn't transfer over from mass to normal, so fully channeling the mass and then doing normal is overall better dps as that last tick on the mass disintegrate doesn't get thrown out the window.
I am confused. you are saying you have to let mass disinegrate full channel but in live right now you can recast before it ends to keep mass disingrate going. if you fish for procs and have mas essence you can chain this for awhile. am i wrong here? cause i see 3 beams going out continuously when i do this so i assume its working. also is it not a dps loss if you do fire breath straight into es shouldnt it be fire breath, md, ss,es,mass. in short?
When you have mass disintegrate up and active, it's a dps loss to just mass chain because that last buffed tick isn't rolling over to the normal disintegrate with the spell queuing. So it's better to fully channel the mass and get that fourth tick of buffed damage, and then chain by clipping and spell queuing normal disintegrates as the mass buff won't be wasted and discarded off to the aether.
The video is great! But samn that lole 10minute mark with the shamans spamming chain lightnings made it hard to concentrate 😂 had to rewatch a bunch
I love you lizard wizard from Blizzard. Dev4Evah
gonna main dev because i love the fantasy C:
Man you can really tell that preheat is bummed out that dev is so flat now. I feel you bro.
Flat?
I wish people would hear you on that... most people say I am worthless as Aug and need to do more DPS
I dont get when its empowered „mass disintigrat“
firestorm still completely dead?
I kinda maybe like them swooping dragons 😂 with the owls from the head enchant from Dragonflight it will be a huge bombardment 😂
I love devoker but everybody's pressuring me to play augmentation. It's very annoying.
I thought i was going to like mass disintegrate, but from what i can tell it makes the gameplay look way more clunky. Like chaining disintegrates always felt way more smooth. I'm not looking forward to it now. :/
sadly Dev is shit.
It should be fine once you're used to the new mechanics. From what I understand, you can still chain, just not with mass disintegrate unless you have two charges. Just avoid chaining your last mass disintegrate charge into a normal one. Otherwise it should be as you've been playing.
@@corysteiner1218 It's something I'll definitely play around with, but i feel like it'll throw off the flow to the overall gameplay. I'll find out later today :P
I thought the same thing. Having to think different timings to do the same two habilities depending if you casted an empowered spell before or not makes it cluncky. I will learn to play it and master it. But im not happy with it.
For me, a fun fantasy that was mass disintegrate has become one of the things I least like about scalecommander. Hope they change it and let us chain it and not lose damage when its “mass + normal”
I don’t know where the idea that Scalecommander is better dps is coming from.
I’m a fairly competent evoker player, I’ve played it since release, but no matter how much I test, Flameshaper just barely pulls more damage than Scalecommander in both ST and AoE.
It may be because my stats are mostly aug stats right now, so I have very high mastery, but testing on dummies where the mastery value is constant, I pull ahead on Flameshaper every time.
Hi sir could you share your plater?
Aug guide coming?....
vidoe finishes at 12:36 rest is irrelevant.
yes please make evoker guides and leave mage guides and never do them again
Please get rid of the back-ground playing as it is very distracting as my eyes keep moving away from the talent tree as the flashing doesn't help w/concentration on the talent trees?
The other thing regarding your vid? It is blurring and hard to read anything.
I actually like the gameplay alongside the video