I wish they could, imagen, tanking with Earth empowered abilitys . Summoning a Elemental thad takes over the aggro, I mean Its cool dont u think Also this idea can be brought on the hunter too, u and ur pet tanking, u buff ur pet and use nature, like medical flasks I like both ideas :)
Wrong. ;-D Shamans could technically tank back in BC, lol. We used to run a straight shaman Kara raid and tried to do some of easy 25 man ones but we could not find enough Shamans to do those consistently.
i agree. such a wasted opportunity. they run like they have a limp on their toes.. horrid spell effects.. just generally boring gameplay.. think im just gutted because it felt so silly :(
I just subscribed again for the first time since The Lich King. Just restarted my old Warlock main. I remember him being a versatile beast back in the day. Glad I'm picking him back up.
Ugh im so torn. I always picked shaman as my main for each expansion and always got dumpstered in the end. Im trying hard to learn from my mistakes but they look so good!!
Ele has been my main since late Vanilla. I love it dearly. It's only become my primary alt since Legion when Survival hunter changed to melee and I fell in love with it. That said, I'm sure we're going to have an absolute blast with Ele this time around.
My issue is I find fun in most all of the classes so I can never pick one or two to play throughout each xpac. Constantly swapping and never getting far in endgame. Been playing since 2005 and it’s my curse 😂
you are clueless really, if you raid mythic in anything that is in top 500 or you want to do some m+ higher than m20 you need to play certain classes and thats not 0,1%, try to be accepted as hunter for high key or try to get into any mythic group with ussules class gl
I love these fallacious arguments. The condition being *UNLESS* you're this unreasonable extreme, (no true scotsman), you should just do whatever. "Hey most people die from cancer, unless you smoke you shouldn't worry about it." Some classes can be "viable" and have to work 20 times harder to achieve the same results as the one that steam rolls because of intentional overbuffing of classes/specializations. Never mind the skill gap that you're addressing. Do I want some one who has a casual play skill level, has absolutely no idea what they're doing? Nope. Do I want someone who can at least hit buttons and contribute something, even if they're mostly useless? I'll take it over the former point. Would I rather have someone who is decent and can play their class? over the former points, absolutely. We can wish for things, and end up with shit in our hands. So this all class is "Viable" bs is non sense. How easy the a class/specialization is to play, how well it performs, as well as how well a person can perform are two different conditions that need to be met. "Play what you want." --- Absolutely its your subscription, but don't expect me to play with you because you want to do healer dps.
That's a very glass half full perspective. If a class is undesirable and objectively worse than others /doesnt bring much to a group, you will struggle to get a raid spot.
Shamans are absolutely lit honestly, I stuck with DH for so long but found after I got out of my own way, I've had more fun with Ele Shaman than I have with DH in years.
@@jaceks88 beg your pardon, but his comment is perfectly valid. For one the video doesn't really even touch on any tierlist format or mathematical superiority that much. Also he's not saying anything or being negative or disparaging about the content or the creator, just that despite any other opinions he's going to play demon hunter...He's more than within reason to say such things. Surely.
@@jaceks88 so people should only ever watch and comment on things they completely agree with? Oh what a shock, someone on the Internet replied with a different opinion!
I fired up the game after having not touched it in a very long time and dusted off my enhance shaman. It feels pretty good, and the echo's event is quite fun.
Main Aff lock, alt melee dps. Wich one I got every class lvl 70. Ret, unholy dk, or warrior? Focus will be m+, highest personal rating with pugs is 3k+. Had problems finding groups on warrior took alot of time
As always, the truest answer of all is "What do you find fun?" Performance and meta be damned. I'm playing Survival yet again because I find it fun. Mages are always relevant, sure, but I find them mind numbing to play, but that's just me. Harpoons, bombs and spears. I'm a happy guy.
@@joeywilcox278 Why can't it be for you mate? World first raider? Top 0.1% M+? I'm sorry, but unless you live and breathe this game at the highest of levels you can play whatever you like.
@@jamesanderson729 again, you’re just proving the opposite of what you think you’re saying. Fun is your idea of how you play. Better to push limits is a small portion but still a portion of people who do m+. And top .2-.3% yea
Lol DK, Evoker, Shaman, and Warlock were already my warband. They're the classes i have played time and time again over the course of WoW's history from Vanilla as a lock to what it is today
Nice video! love this way more than tierlists! What do you think about hunters? I am a little bit worried since mostly everything I heard is that it is going to suck and hero talents are really bad :C
I mean don’t be too nervous There damage is 1000% there, Just a bit stiff when it comes to build variety as well as hero talent tree design Pack leader is the most boring in the game, but sentinel and dark ranger are pretty damn nice
They'll figure it out in time bud. I'm not worried. I'm playing Survival again no matter what, and I'll make it work. We've got 3 DPS specs to roll with, one of them will be good. Just wait it out for now and reap the benefits later if you're not confident.
what i really like about this, especially the title of the video, is that you're making suggestions for the viewers rather than a tier list. What frustrates me so much, is i see so many people making tier lists for TWW and i'm just sitting here like "bro, you made a tier list for healers, you made one for dps, but why? you're gonna need to make one for when the expansion actually drops because classes are getting buffed, nerfed and reworked basically daily up until the release. It's not actually helping anyone" so thank you sky. I try not to be a meta slave but at the same time, when it comes to gaming, i also don't want to play a class that's just absolutely abysmal comparatively to other similar classes numbers wise. Its' even harder to avoid that when it's an mmo since you know some healers, tanks and dps are just gonna be better and some will underperform compared to them
@@TheComebackKids see? and this is why i keep coming back to your channel. My man's is respecting people's time and giving out all the dets on the things we need to know in order to make a choice we won't regret
I haven't played wow in years, me and my mate are just gonna cruise it from lvl 1 and listen to the story. I'm bored of being meta in games, I just want to have fun.
So with the 4 star on the DK, does this mean that it is very difficult or easier? Just sayin' cause I keep screwing up my rotations on my demonology warlock and consider it a difficult task to keep rotation from falling off the rails. Even though it don't hurt DPS very badly, it makes me feel dumb. LOL
If that’s the case the rating only make sense if you value high difficulty as something good. As this is for newer players that doesn’t make much sense. Besides I would put DK under mage. Unholy DK is one of the hardest speccs to optimize in terms of gameplay.
Looks like I have to choose between DK or Mage. Probably going to go with DK since you can fulfill 2 roles; tank & dps and I am so much more comfortable tanking.
Assassination Rogue has really nice AOE with Fan of Knives and Crimson Tempest. My only issue is that it feels somewhat squishy. Arms Warrior holds up much better defensively and is extremely bursty and with terrific AOE, and is also extremely easy to play. Feral Rouge is more difficult yet still my preference, and I love questing as Guardian.
i'm so torn between warrior tank and DH tank, been a tank main since vanilla and only recently swapped to DH, i don't know if i wan to carry on with the DH but i dont know if im ready to hang up my shield... HELP PLEASE!!
lol we will make content on classic plus if it’s announced don’t worry, content creators don’t have to be in a box my friend. We can make content on all versions of wow really.
Thinking about jumping into WoW. I was a FFxi player. Played in 1 of the top clans in NA for 10 years. I dont care for FF14 and want to find a mmo to get back into. I never had WoW on my radar bcuz I didn't want to start new in a game that's been out for 30years and be at a severe disadvantage. But.... I'm curious to know what character should I start out with, if I were to play WoW, and want to learn the games mechanics, layout, keyfigs, movements, and battle system? I enjoy doing lots of damage but I also like support classes as in buffs and debuffs and crowd control. I have all the free time in the world, so time learning isn't an issue. I also enjoy soloing stuff that isn't supposed to be soloed and like leveling solo. Not sure how leveling is in this game, but in ffxi 98% of the leveling was group based. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! I'll look into those classes if suggested!
Well I think a class that is pretty simple to pick up while being able to provide respectable damage and support to the party would have to be the Aug evoker!
@TheComebackKids yeah it seems evokes is nice. Every video has them in the top 3 or so. But the comments are absolutely bombing on them. They get hated on bad. If I play that class, will I get into groups? Lol.
@derekbaker4763 Augmentation is the spec that is the most wanted by groups in the game, it makes everyone better, and not enough people play it. It will most likely be Skyy’s main
Devastation has some of the lowest sustained dps in the current beta build. Without significant buffs, it's dead in the water. It IS "bad by any means" at the moment. Fortunately for Evoker fans, though, the other two specs are not hurting.
Warrior been a favorite class, got boored with it because 0 utility for mythic + compared to other classes. If you dont give them more dmg then other classes they suck. Rerolled warlock and its really fun to and great utility for M+ but hope they buff Warriors for mythic +
As someone who plays all healers and prefers healing as a role, I can’t disagree with you more that preservation is the “best” healer. IMO they are the only healer I don’t like. Personal preference ofc
Damn. Ive been lvling a ret pally as my main because of one of your other videos. Now it isn't top 5 in your list. How did things change so drastically in jist a few days?
For warlock , destro and demo talents are bugged AF . Affli is only one spec with minor buffs for that is ahead, and ele shaman is already nerfed to the ground on PBE
I want to play evoker scalecommander so much, but I feel Blizzard is not going to give it anymore attention, where their single target is utter trash :(
Not gonna be too critical, but how are Mage and Death Knight at 6/10 on group utility ? Mass barrier alone puts mage at 7/10, that is without talking about Bloodlust, and food for M+, also Mage has a Raid buff, one of the shortest interrupts, Dragon's breath, Blast Wave and like 5 personal defensive buttons... Also I do think Mage has the most varied builds in the game, if you look at Mage sims there are a lot of different builds within each others range even within the same hero talent build, And this is coming from a Mage main, good video though
mass bar got nerfed SUPER hard, not only that, alot of what you said was being tied to fire mage Also DK AMZ Got nerfed multiple times as well. There are 100% classes out there with way more utility like priest, shaman, and evoker
@@TheComebackKidsNone of what I mentioned is Fire mage locked, the fact is that mage utility is OP and Broken, and nowhere near a 6/10, even Frost mage has more utility because it helps your tank kite in higher M+, Arcane Intellect is insane for healers that's why it got nerfed, and Mage just doesn't die as a class. Also we have Spellsteal and Curse dispell. You seem to tie utility to damage and that's just incorrect. Also ofc the mass barrier nerf did nothing 😊 because in any competent group what matters is not the CD but the shield value (which is improved by both hero talents btw) I know it doesn't matter now, just wanted to set the record straight on what I consider a wildly incorrect rating / analysis.
Well that stinks. I played BC and WotLK. must have about 20 Alts but the only class I enjoyed enough to max was the Paladin. paid for one month to see what’s new thinking I’ll buy the expansion if I’m still playing at a the months end. By the sound of it there’s no point in making it to end game if no one will want a PAL in their group.
I just wish Enhance Shamans had a two handed build option, Frost DKs get that option, and Fury Warrior gets single minded fury, so why can't Shamans get Two handed mastery?
Interesting that even though druid can do role in the game, it didn't make it on the list. Guess other classes do druid's job better except when it comes to bringing mark of the wild.
Shammy these days has way too many keybinds. 3 action bars isn't enough. It looks great at first glance, but when you go to play it, you don't have enough fingers or action bars. I love the shaman vibes and was excited to play shammy, but now that I've tried out the prepatch, I can say it has too many buttons for me to press. :(
Ton of the top m+ beta keys have WW in them. They have strong utility and amazing aoe with CDs. Single target not the highest but overall dungeon damage is top tier. WW has just always been a less played and less popular class so it doesn’t get the mainstream love. I think it’s going to shine under the radar in TWW
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I know shamans cant tank lol, it was a mistype!
I don't play retail so I was wondering. Thanks for clarifying
I wish they could, imagen, tanking with Earth empowered abilitys . Summoning a Elemental thad takes over the aggro, I mean
Its cool dont u think
Also this idea can be brought on the hunter too, u and ur pet tanking, u buff ur pet and use nature, like medical flasks
I like both ideas :)
Didnt you make the same mistake in your previous video?
@TheComebackKids It truly was a mistake - on Blizzard's part - not to give shamans a tank spec by now.
Wrong. ;-D
Shamans could technically tank back in BC, lol. We used to run a straight shaman Kara raid and tried to do some of easy 25 man ones but we could not find enough Shamans to do those consistently.
these are the class recommendations- Death knight, Mage, Warrior, Warlock, Evoker, and Shaman
I really like that this isn't a tier list. The 90% of players needs suggestions like these, not meta and number-crunching.
Well tier list would be pointless at the moment because of the amount of tuning that is still going to happen.
@@TheComebackKids bro you did a tier list about that 2 weeks ago
It is a tier list lol these are all the meta and ripped straight from the tier lists lol
Agreed. This is for the average gamer
Great summary! I’m an altaholic and very indecisive, so I really appreciate this video that helped me narrow it down.
Love this
just do what i do, have one of everything at max level and geared, then agonize over which to play every single day
Can’t stand the look of evoker, it’s class fantasy is trash and the no transmog negates a massive portion of the game.
That’s allot of opinions
This!They look so bad and don't fit in at all.
i agree. such a wasted opportunity. they run like they have a limp on their toes.. horrid spell effects.. just generally boring gameplay.. think im just gutted because it felt so silly :(
I am actually happy to find a race that looks like me…
I’ve literally never played a evoker for this reason, why the hell would I want to be a lizard. If we could play as the human form, I’m in!
It's a good time to be a mage and warlock multiclasser.
Oh wait, It's always been.
Love that
fire is dogshit right now.. litteraly tank dmg XD
Fire will not stay crap guaranteed
@@luftim first beta? tuning doesn't matter until heroic week, there will still be quite a few toss ups.
@@k9tirion927 lets hope ;)
bro, you're killing it! the little star system and everything, amazing! even the tiny sound when the star tiles pop up are primo
Thanks Buddy
I just subscribed again for the first time since The Lich King. Just restarted my old Warlock main. I remember him being a versatile beast back in the day. Glad I'm picking him back up.
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As an Ele main for 12 years, this is the most I've been excited!
Hell yeah
Ugh im so torn. I always picked shaman as my main for each expansion and always got dumpstered in the end. Im trying hard to learn from my mistakes but they look so good!!
@@TheJayhawk4 dude same but I think if weve been doing shaman this long its like the ritual of an expansion we just have to do it haha
Ele has been my main since late Vanilla. I love it dearly. It's only become my primary alt since Legion when Survival hunter changed to melee and I fell in love with it.
That said, I'm sure we're going to have an absolute blast with Ele this time around.
12?????
My issue is I find fun in most all of the classes so I can never pick one or two to play throughout each xpac. Constantly swapping and never getting far in endgame. Been playing since 2005 and it’s my curse 😂
man i really feel you.. always liked elemental and its looking amazing rn bu i DO LOVE DK art style so i can't decide
Your not alone
Unless you’re one of the top 0.1% of players, everything is viable. Play what you want.
Unless you won't get accepted to 20+ dungeons because you are hunter
you are clueless really, if you raid mythic in anything that is in top 500 or you want to do some m+ higher than m20 you need to play certain classes and thats not 0,1%, try to be accepted as hunter for high key or try to get into any mythic group with ussules class gl
I love these fallacious arguments.
The condition being *UNLESS* you're this unreasonable extreme, (no true scotsman), you should just do whatever.
"Hey most people die from cancer, unless you smoke you shouldn't worry about it."
Some classes can be "viable" and have to work 20 times harder to achieve the same results as the one that steam rolls because of intentional overbuffing of classes/specializations.
Never mind the skill gap that you're addressing. Do I want some one who has a casual play skill level, has absolutely no idea what they're doing? Nope.
Do I want someone who can at least hit buttons and contribute something, even if they're mostly useless? I'll take it over the former point.
Would I rather have someone who is decent and can play their class? over the former points, absolutely. We can wish for things, and end up with shit in our hands.
So this all class is "Viable" bs is non sense. How easy the a class/specialization is to play, how well it performs, as well as how well a person can perform are two different conditions that need to be met.
"Play what you want." --- Absolutely its your subscription, but don't expect me to play with you because you want to do healer dps.
@@AdrianSlez 20+? gl with that on s1 :P
That's a very glass half full perspective. If a class is undesirable and objectively worse than others /doesnt bring much to a group, you will struggle to get a raid spot.
Shamans are absolutely lit honestly, I stuck with DH for so long but found after I got out of my own way, I've had more fun with Ele Shaman than I have with DH in years.
Im going Survival hunter. Completely surprised as iv never cared for it since its melee rework. This version is awesome and just works in all content.
I actually agree and find it to be a ton of fun!
I swapped to being a Survival main when the rework dropped in Legion. Never looked back.
Year of the spear brotha!
I couldn't care less about tier lists or what is mathematically superior. I'll be maining DH, because that's what I like.
same lol. Im using a controller, feels like playing a different game xD
Big man! Respect for those who know what they like and do it well. Meta be damned!
Cared enough to watch and comment. Lol. Good on you.
@@jaceks88 beg your pardon, but his comment is perfectly valid. For one the video doesn't really even touch on any tierlist format or mathematical superiority that much. Also he's not saying anything or being negative or disparaging about the content or the creator, just that despite any other opinions he's going to play demon hunter...He's more than within reason to say such things. Surely.
@@jaceks88 so people should only ever watch and comment on things they completely agree with? Oh what a shock, someone on the Internet replied with a different opinion!
Thinking about returning again, haven’t played since the beginning of legion. Don’t know what to play everything g sounds fun!!
What did you Main back in the day?
I fired up the game after having not touched it in a very long time and dusted off my enhance shaman. It feels pretty good, and the echo's event is quite fun.
Love that
Best “pick your main” video that I’ve watched!
Thank you so much!
Main Aff lock, alt melee dps. Wich one I got every class lvl 70. Ret, unholy dk, or warrior? Focus will be m+, highest personal rating with pugs is 3k+. Had problems finding groups on warrior took alot of time
Great video! Showing the stats how ea class/spec with gameplay off to the side, easily one of my fav edited videos on class review for WWI
Thank you very much!
Im new to wow, havent even maxed my character. Currently im rocking a monk build, is this viable ? For now, i enjoy it and its pretty fun
Monk is good
Really appreciate this style of video to compare & discuss the highlights of these classes. Thanks!
Thanks for watching
I am curious how many stars would you give to Paladin and how would you rank the class.
Paladin is good
The only 3 classes I've ever really put time into are Warrior, Death Knight and Warlock, looking like a good expansion for me!
Oooh hell yeah
Such a great overview and recommendation video! Thanks for spotlighting their hero talents
Thank you for watching
Just wanted to say props to the channel, videos like this are very easy to understand with great content, look forward to seeing future videos.
Thanks so much for watching!
As always, the truest answer of all is "What do you find fun?"
Performance and meta be damned.
I'm playing Survival yet again because I find it fun.
Mages are always relevant, sure, but I find them mind numbing to play, but that's just me.
Harpoons, bombs and spears. I'm a happy guy.
Year of the spear V3.0
truest answer for you maybe
@@joeywilcox278 Why can't it be for you mate?
World first raider? Top 0.1% M+?
I'm sorry, but unless you live and breathe this game at the highest of levels you can play whatever you like.
@@jamesanderson729 again, you’re just proving the opposite of what you think you’re saying. Fun is your idea of how you play. Better to push limits is a small portion but still a portion of people who do m+. And top .2-.3% yea
@@joeywilcox278 That's fair. But now I'm asking you, just genuinely because I want to know, what is your favourite class and spec?
Your artwork said that shamans can Tank, Dps and heal. I wish but they can’t tank yet.
Yeah I misspoke filmed this video at like 5:30 am and was very tired
@joshuashone1568 They could in season of discovery, and it was pretty awesome.
Bdk is my favorite class fell in love with dk at release won’t turn back
Lol DK, Evoker, Shaman, and Warlock were already my warband. They're the classes i have played time and time again over the course of WoW's history from Vanilla as a lock to what it is today
Damn! Looks like I'll be going back to my warlock once again! So much for playing a druid and a hunter!!!
Nice video! love this way more than tierlists! What do you think about hunters? I am a little bit worried since mostly everything I heard is that it is going to suck and hero talents are really bad :C
I mean don’t be too nervous
There damage is 1000% there,
Just a bit stiff when it comes to build variety as well as hero talent tree design
Pack leader is the most boring in the game, but sentinel and dark ranger are pretty damn nice
They'll figure it out in time bud. I'm not worried. I'm playing Survival again no matter what, and I'll make it work. We've got 3 DPS specs to roll with, one of them will be good. Just wait it out for now and reap the benefits later if you're not confident.
Im starting this game since lich king, hahaha want to play something diferent evoker augmentation is good ? Or viable ?
Aug is VERY GOOD and always wanted.
what i really like about this, especially the title of the video, is that you're making suggestions for the viewers rather than a tier list. What frustrates me so much, is i see so many people making tier lists for TWW and i'm just sitting here like "bro, you made a tier list for healers, you made one for dps, but why? you're gonna need to make one for when the expansion actually drops because classes are getting buffed, nerfed and reworked basically daily up until the release. It's not actually helping anyone" so thank you sky. I try not to be a meta slave but at the same time, when it comes to gaming, i also don't want to play a class that's just absolutely abysmal comparatively to other similar classes numbers wise. Its' even harder to avoid that when it's an mmo since you know some healers, tanks and dps are just gonna be better and some will underperform compared to them
Yeah bro we don’t want to base it off of tuning that can change tomorrow
@@TheComebackKids see? and this is why i keep coming back to your channel. My man's is respecting people's time and giving out all the dets on the things we need to know in order to make a choice we won't regret
I’ll never forget you bro.
You’ve been around since the BEGINNING.
Love you man!
@@TheComebackKids Aww, nah man, i love you bro!
I haven't played wow in years, me and my mate are just gonna cruise it from lvl 1 and listen to the story. I'm bored of being meta in games, I just want to have fun.
Nothing wrong with that, you two will have a ton of fun!
What story? Lol
Have you been playing war within?
Between frost 2h DK/Arms Warrior or Ele shaman easy tww experience (lowest apm) which would you pick ?
Lowest APM, maybe arms out of those 3
@@TheComebackKids Alot of people saying Frost 2h DK is better for leveling/easy playstyle due to DK passive Dark Succussor (Self heals)
I'm so torn on what to play but I appreciate the video
Well I always tell people for the Main pick something you a comfortable with, and explore some new stuff as Alts
So with the 4 star on the DK, does this mean that it is very difficult or easier? Just sayin' cause I keep screwing up my rotations on my demonology warlock and consider it a difficult task to keep rotation from falling off the rails. Even though it don't hurt DPS very badly, it makes me feel dumb. LOL
Not difficult for frost
@@TheComebackKids Excellent, thank you for responding. I've not played melee since Cata, so this will be fun!
For Difficulty, what do you mean? Does a 1 mean it's easy while a 10 is difficult? Or vice versa?
10 more difficult
If that’s the case the rating only make sense if you value high difficulty as something good. As this is for newer players that doesn’t make much sense. Besides I would put DK under mage. Unholy DK is one of the hardest speccs to optimize in terms of gameplay.
great vid as usual! Going Shaman for sure. But bro...is this SOD? As far as i know shamans can´t tank in retail...isnt it?
Yeah misspoke I recorded this at like 5:00 am and was going cross eyed, sorry 😢
This was out together so good!
Really really surprised paladin is not in your list ...
How come
Difficulty, stars rating, many stars hard or easy?
Easy
Man. Ive been maining Enhance for Wrath. And will always stay with them...even when they were shit. But i usually go back forth with Warlocks.
great list ! it has really helped out narrowing down my mains. i got so many alts! >.
What are you thinking?
Looks like I have to choose between DK or Mage. Probably going to go with DK since you can fulfill 2 roles; tank & dps and I am so much more comfortable tanking.
That’s fair
Monk will be my main and i've been leveling him on remix. I'll also play with Shaman, Evoker, Paladin, Death Knight and Warlock
Great choices
The little jingle you use when you display the ratings is ear piercing loud on headphones btw
Sorry about that
i had already decided to main evoker. even though i look like the spawn of a lizard and a giraffe coupling. 😢
lol
Assassination Rogue has really nice AOE with Fan of Knives and Crimson Tempest. My only issue is that it feels somewhat squishy. Arms Warrior holds up much better defensively and is extremely bursty and with terrific AOE, and is also extremely easy to play. Feral Rouge is more difficult yet still my preference, and I love questing as Guardian.
Good points
i'm so torn between warrior tank and DH tank, been a tank main since vanilla and only recently swapped to DH, i don't know if i wan to carry on with the DH but i dont know if im ready to hang up my shield... HELP PLEASE!!
Start with Prot warrior for ole time sake
Death Knight and Mage for me :) I’ve been a DK from my first day on WoW but Mage is calling to me as I’ve been looking for a caster class
Mage is nice but dk is so sick right now
My boy always making the best content out here, much luv to ya amigos 💯Fully locked in 🔒
Love you bro
lol we will make content on classic plus if it’s announced don’t worry, content creators don’t have to be in a box my friend. We can make content on all versions of wow really.
And he's so freaking cute too 😂
I’m doing 1.5mil aoe dps on my ret now that they fixed crusade talent to work with wake of ashes talent proc…💪🏾that and my 535 leggo so def ret here
Nice
Prot warrior for life yo.
That’s fair
Prot warrior bdk side by side fighting together unkillable
still thinknig if i want to either Elemental shaman still (mained ele for 3 years now) or go either Arcane mage or AFF lock.
Ele just got a raid buff!
Thinking about jumping into WoW. I was a FFxi player. Played in 1 of the top clans in NA for 10 years. I dont care for FF14 and want to find a mmo to get back into.
I never had WoW on my radar bcuz I didn't want to start new in a game that's been out for 30years and be at a severe disadvantage.
But.... I'm curious to know what character should I start out with, if I were to play WoW, and want to learn the games mechanics, layout, keyfigs, movements, and battle system? I enjoy doing lots of damage but I also like support classes as in buffs and debuffs and crowd control. I have all the free time in the world, so time learning isn't an issue. I also enjoy soloing stuff that isn't supposed to be soloed and like leveling solo. Not sure how leveling is in this game, but in ffxi 98% of the leveling was group based.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated! I'll look into those classes if suggested!
Well I think a class that is pretty simple to pick up while being able to provide respectable damage and support to the party would have to be the Aug evoker!
@TheComebackKids yeah it seems evokes is nice. Every video has them in the top 3 or so. But the comments are absolutely bombing on them. They get hated on bad. If I play that class, will I get into groups? Lol.
@derekbaker4763 Augmentation is the spec that is the most wanted by groups in the game, it makes everyone better, and not enough people play it. It will most likely be Skyy’s main
Devastation has some of the lowest sustained dps in the current beta build. Without significant buffs, it's dead in the water. It IS "bad by any means" at the moment. Fortunately for Evoker fans, though, the other two specs are not hurting.
Breath, dev will get big buffs Im sure
Excerpt for heavy aoe disintegrate situations where your disintegrate is dealing like 60% of your damage lol
I like the devastation core rotation and feel of the class. Not a big fan of buffing other people to do my damage or healing. Rolling back to DK
They will be still oke right for the tww
Why will be?
@@TheComebackKids i mean will they still be oke in tww as retri or not really
also can you get a permanent water elemental pet with the new mage hero taletns?
Yeah
@@TheComebackKids for real?! So I can have a pet all the time as a mage again?
Always been a warlock main, always will be a warlock main
Hell yeah
Any changes on frost dk for this reset ?
Have not checked but will go over it
I dont know when you made this video, but as of now the Sunfury talent is the strongest out of the 3, especially for Arcane.
Warrior been a favorite class, got boored with it because 0 utility for mythic + compared to other classes. If you dont give them more dmg then other classes they suck. Rerolled warlock and its really fun to and great utility for M+ but hope they buff Warriors for mythic +
That’s fair
What about balance druid? Nothing? :D
Balance is in a tough spot
When you get to class #4 and you finally realize your class isn’t next 😢
Ouchhhh
As someone who plays all healers and prefers healing as a role, I can’t disagree with you more that preservation is the “best” healer. IMO they are the only healer I don’t like. Personal preference ofc
That’s fair
Is augmentation viable for pvp or mostly pve?
It can be for pvp as well
@@TheComebackKids same god tier status though??
1.Death knight that’s all you need
Nerfs and buffs are out boys! Its getting saucy!
Yikeeees
Play what you enjoy.
Thanks 🙏
Facts.
Most people enjoy top specs tho
100% agree
@@jakewhite215 They prefer being shit with top spec than good with average/mediocre spec
Sunfury talent tree is actually the strongest numbers wise. Arcane SF does the most ST damage of any spec in beta atm
and frostfire is bad on both fire and frost, but especially on frost.
Damn. Ive been lvling a ret pally as my main because of one of your other videos. Now it isn't top 5 in your list. How did things change so drastically in jist a few days?
Don’t look at these videos as the only classes to play, Ret will still be a great main!
i leveled a paladin was loving it and boom they killed it
@@robertharding8394 they really did
@@robertharding8394 half of my attacks are now passive
For warlock , destro and demo talents are bugged AF . Affli is only one spec with minor buffs for that is ahead, and ele shaman is already nerfed to the ground on PBE
I'm going Rogue, Warrior, Pali, Monk
I’m just looking forward to playing a Laser Bear
They are going to be fun for sure
Why it says shaman can tank?
Mistype, forgot to edit that out lmfao
Any class can become the tank if they generate enough threat. The healer and tank ain't gonna like it though lmao.
Good time to be a resto shaman Main ❤
Oh hell yeah
im still seeing as a lost that the augmentation evoker wasnt a bard... a bard buffing allies would have been so much better
Would have been sick
Any game with a bard draws me in. I would have lost it if they had done it.
I hope they don’t need warriors dmg too much since it’s the only think we bring to the group pretty much 😂
Yikeeesss
I want to play evoker scalecommander so much, but I feel Blizzard is not going to give it anymore attention, where their single target is utter trash :(
Not gonna be too critical, but how are Mage and Death Knight at 6/10 on group utility ? Mass barrier alone puts mage at 7/10, that is without talking about Bloodlust, and food for M+, also Mage has a Raid buff, one of the shortest interrupts, Dragon's breath, Blast Wave and like 5 personal defensive buttons...
Also I do think Mage has the most varied builds in the game, if you look at Mage sims there are a lot of different builds within each others range even within the same hero talent build,
And this is coming from a Mage main, good video though
mass bar got nerfed SUPER hard, not only that, alot of what you said was being tied to fire mage
Also DK AMZ Got nerfed multiple times as well. There are 100% classes out there with way more utility like priest, shaman, and evoker
AMS, talented properly, also buffs several friendly players nearby. In M+, that’s pretty huge.
@@TheComebackKidsNone of what I mentioned is Fire mage locked, the fact is that mage utility is OP and Broken, and nowhere near a 6/10, even Frost mage has more utility because it helps your tank kite in higher M+, Arcane Intellect is insane for healers that's why it got nerfed, and Mage just doesn't die as a class.
Also we have Spellsteal and Curse dispell.
You seem to tie utility to damage and that's just incorrect. Also ofc the mass barrier nerf did nothing 😊 because in any competent group what matters is not the CD but the shield value (which is improved by both hero talents btw)
I know it doesn't matter now, just wanted to set the record straight on what I consider a wildly incorrect rating / analysis.
i was loving paladin and they killed it
What makes you say that
When you say difficulty is 8\10 you mean it’s hard? And what about 3/10 for watt you mean watt is not hard?
No paladin?
Not in this one
I've been a shaman since I started playing back in TBC, hope this expansion we get a fun gameplay!
Let’s goooo
Well that stinks. I played BC and WotLK. must have about 20 Alts but the only class I enjoyed enough to max was the Paladin. paid for one month to see what’s new thinking I’ll buy the expansion if I’m still playing at a the months end. By the sound of it there’s no point in making it to end game if no one will want a PAL in their group.
Pally is doing fine
I just wish Enhance Shamans had a two handed build option, Frost DKs get that option, and Fury Warrior gets single minded fury, so why can't Shamans get Two handed mastery?
Would be cool actually I agree
My prot warrior just turned 18 lol
Love that
Interesting that even though druid can do role in the game, it didn't make it on the list. Guess other classes do druid's job better except when it comes to bringing mark of the wild.
At the current time yes but we will see how tubing finalizes
@@TheComebackKidstubing - hehe
Lots of ppl are complaining on uh dk festering wounds tho
alt f4 no druids?
I agree with all except for shaman.
That’s fair
The shaman is not good?
@@Prototype3710 they flip flop all the time between bad and good
Shammy these days has way too many keybinds. 3 action bars isn't enough. It looks great at first glance, but when you go to play it, you don't have enough fingers or action bars. I love the shaman vibes and was excited to play shammy, but now that I've tried out the prepatch, I can say it has too many buttons for me to press. :(
All specs are viable play what you want
Yes they are
Always frost mage 😊
What's up with my ww monk, everyone is saying it's fun and a great choice but nobody puts him on top
They are fun
@@TheComebackKids what about dps numbers tho
It’s doing alright but I would NOT WORRY about dps numbers at the moment they are still tuning and changing things everyday
Ton of the top m+ beta keys have WW in them. They have strong utility and amazing aoe with CDs. Single target not the highest but overall dungeon damage is top tier. WW has just always been a less played and less popular class so it doesn’t get the mainstream love. I think it’s going to shine under the radar in TWW
Warrior 💪🏽
Paladin, Paladin, Paladin, Paladin and Paladin.
ill say it again - assassination rogue
any rogue anytime :D
The mage is seriously lacking in total damage out of the complex rotation.
Ima go ret pala and cry
Ret is fine