The Scorpion Strike reads earlier, and continues better. The early read is because the Semtex cover stock is very strong for a peaarl, and the continuation is just the symmetric core. That's why the Scorpion Sting is such a great shim rider. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
The little asides that you give are worth their weight in gold. Falling off your shot causing early reads is so interesting! It makes sense but I would have never thought about it. Also, falling off being caused by being to quick really makes sense but it's something I never put together!
I love that idea! I'm honestly not an expert on that (house patterns baffle me), but I can sure give it a go ;) likely within the next month or so-- I have a few reviews/comparisons lined up from previous suggestions for the next few weeks!
When would you use each? I mean what oil pattern/oil conditions? I have both aswell and i love them, honestly your videos made me get these two balls 😁... Now i am just trying to understand when os better to use them.. so far i notice that when Urethane is being or has been played, the scorpion strike leavse me many corner pins, so in that situation I use the scorpion strike.. but i nothe that the vaporize is very versatile on fresh, transition and maye a late transition/early dry just weaking my wrist a bit. Same gor the scorpion strike but i said, the only difference i see for my self is the performance on carry down.. i would appreciate so much your insights and advice, as maybe i don't need to bring both in my 3 balls bag and i could bring something else like the scorpion low flare instead
Great video Val. That Scorpion Strike looks very impressive. You mention doing a comparison with the Stike and the Low Flare. That should be an interesting video. I will keep an eye out for that video Question: Have you considered doing a 1v1 challenge match against one of the other youtube content creators? Not sure where you are located but Brunsnick, Charles H., or Coach C would make a great video. You could get Dasha involved too.
Yes, that one will be posted today :) Hmmmm.............I have not thought about that, but I will sure consider it haha I live close to Nick, not sure about the other 2 and I think having Dasha would be fun!
@@bowlwithVALue Nick is great. His channel 'Brunsnick' is my favorite bowling channel on youtube. Of course, I am a Hammer guy so I'm a little biased lol. I've only been bowling for about 1 year and I already own: Dark Web, Web Pearl (favorite ball 265 high score), Scorpion LF, Scorpion Sting, Scorpion Hybrid, Raw pearl, Rhino pearl.... A little carried away for just a 180 avg bowler lol
Wow! I watched you a lot on tour and never saw you fall off the shot. But you are human. Despite an unbalanced shot at the line, you're still my favorite female bowler. Good video and nice comparison.
You make both those balls look great, and playing so far left! Fun to watch. What layout did you put on the vaporize? I used to have the vaporzone hybrid, loved that ball, hope they make another!
I have my typical layout on both -- 65 x 4 3/4 x 35 That vapor zone hybrid was a good ball also! I'm not sure they'll make another haha, but you never know!
how does the vaporize compare to the Hammer effect? are they to similar? in my experience the effect is a very niche for me and i would like to have a high performance pearl that i can use a lot more often.
Vaporize vs Effect video will be up next week 😃 I thought the Effect was a niche ball for me too....and then I threw it against the Vaporize for the video. They're very similar for me! I actually can't wait to watch the playback so I can watch the ball reaction with the close up camera to see if I can spot any subtle differences I missed with my eyes.
I was surprised too! Honestly neither of those😅 I actually just recorded the video for the Scorpion Strike and Low Flare...the Low Flare forced me to play more of a "down and in" shot vs circling in as much as I do in these videos. That video with those 2 will likely be posted today!
Ooo, that would have been a great comparison! I wasn't able to get that ball and it's discontinued now :( Based on the numbers though, the evo response would likely hook more and be quicker response than the vaporize! Do you have the evo response?
Oops I forgot to set up the premier! Sorry friends who usually attend ☹️ next week!
The Scorpion Strike reads earlier, and continues better. The early read is because the Semtex cover stock is very strong for a peaarl, and the continuation is just the symmetric core. That's why the Scorpion Sting is such a great shim rider. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
Great to see your subscribers building up. 😊
😃🙏 yesss, slowly but surely, as they say.
The little asides that you give are worth their weight in gold. Falling off your shot causing early reads is so interesting! It makes sense but I would have never thought about it. Also, falling off being caused by being to quick really makes sense but it's something I never put together!
🙌🥰 Thanks Joe!! I always hope I can provide some educational tips while doing these reviews. Glad this one was an eye opener!
I really like watching you because you throw a 14 lb ball. Most reviews are done by men throwing 15 lbs. Thank you for reaching another demographic!
🙌 this is exactly why I started the channel a few months ago. Thank you for sharing that comment! I hope it reaches more people like us :)
@@bowlwithVALue Would you consider discussing how to adjust during league transition?
I love that idea! I'm honestly not an expert on that (house patterns baffle me), but I can sure give it a go ;) likely within the next month or so-- I have a few reviews/comparisons lined up from previous suggestions for the next few weeks!
When would you use each? I mean what oil pattern/oil conditions? I have both aswell and i love them, honestly your videos made me get these two balls 😁... Now i am just trying to understand when os better to use them.. so far i notice that when Urethane is being or has been played, the scorpion strike leavse me many corner pins, so in that situation I use the scorpion strike.. but i nothe that the vaporize is very versatile on fresh, transition and maye a late transition/early dry just weaking my wrist a bit. Same gor the scorpion strike but i said, the only difference i see for my self is the performance on carry down.. i would appreciate so much your insights and advice, as maybe i don't need to bring both in my 3 balls bag and i could bring something else like the scorpion low flare instead
Great video Val. That Scorpion Strike looks very impressive. You mention doing a comparison with the Stike and the Low Flare. That should be an interesting video. I will keep an eye out for that video
Question: Have you considered doing a 1v1 challenge match against one of the other youtube content creators? Not sure where you are located but Brunsnick, Charles H., or Coach C would make a great video. You could get Dasha involved too.
Yes, that one will be posted today :)
Hmmmm.............I have not thought about that, but I will sure consider it haha I live close to Nick, not sure about the other 2 and I think having Dasha would be fun!
@@bowlwithVALue Nick is great. His channel 'Brunsnick' is my favorite bowling channel on youtube. Of course, I am a Hammer guy so I'm a little biased lol.
I've only been bowling for about 1 year and I already own: Dark Web, Web Pearl (favorite ball 265 high score), Scorpion LF, Scorpion Sting, Scorpion Hybrid, Raw pearl, Rhino pearl....
A little carried away for just a 180 avg bowler lol
hahaha I love that for you!! Your average will improve over time. You've definitely got a few of the most important tools!
Another great video. May get one of these. They both look really good.
Thanks Bill! I'm so glad I have both! They're pretty much the asym & sym versions of each other.
Wow! I watched you a lot on tour and never saw you fall off the shot. But you are human. Despite an unbalanced shot at the line, you're still my favorite female bowler. Good video and nice comparison.
haha yea, I hardly ever fall off my shot, thankfully!! and thank you!!
You make both those balls look great, and playing so far left! Fun to watch. What layout did you put on the vaporize? I used to have the vaporzone hybrid, loved that ball, hope they make another!
PS thanks for the comment on falling off the shot and it reading earlier. Never knew that!! Interesting.
I have my typical layout on both -- 65 x 4 3/4 x 35
That vapor zone hybrid was a good ball also! I'm not sure they'll make another haha, but you never know!
🙌 I'm glad you found it valuable
Great video as usual! Maybe an Effect vs Vaporize?
Coming right up 😉😁
I use JoPo interchangeables. Love 'em!
I've heard good things about those!
Any chance you could compare the Ebonite Fireball Purple/Gold against the Tundra Blue Fire and the Tundra Fire (red)?
how does the vaporize compare to the Hammer effect? are they to similar? in my experience the effect is a very niche for me and i would like to have a high performance pearl that i can use a lot more often.
Vaporize vs Effect video will be up next week 😃 I thought the Effect was a niche ball for me too....and then I threw it against the Vaporize for the video. They're very similar for me! I actually can't wait to watch the playback so I can watch the ball reaction with the close up camera to see if I can spot any subtle differences I missed with my eyes.
Would the scorpion strike work good as a burn ball?
Both balls looked good for you. Kind of surprised by how good the Scorpion Strike looks. Which one might be better for an old school down and in shot?
I was surprised too!
Honestly neither of those😅 I actually just recorded the video for the Scorpion Strike and Low Flare...the Low Flare forced me to play more of a "down and in" shot vs circling in as much as I do in these videos. That video with those 2 will likely be posted today!
Video idea the vaporize compare to the quantum evo response.
Ooo, that would have been a great comparison! I wasn't able to get that ball and it's discontinued now :(
Based on the numbers though, the evo response would likely hook more and be quicker response than the vaporize! Do you have the evo response?
Today I just got my Scorpion Strike but haven't drill yet. Next week I will get it drill before Monday nights league
I think you'll love it!
@@bowlwithVALue already did and did little practice.
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@bowlwithVALue already did bowling with Scorpion Strike last night. Pretty good but I hurt my thumb
noooo I hope it heals quickly! Did you hurt it bowling or something else?
Vaporize is Asymmetric but also has HK22 +C addative. The Strike is only HK22 if im not mistaken?
I believe you're right!
How about vapor vs. effect
On its way! it'll be posted next week.
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I've heard they're amazing!
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