Full Range Test! Holmes Hobbies Puller Pro 540L Motor & Castle Mamba X In The Redcat Wendigo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2020
- In our last video featuring the Redcat Wendigo, John dropped a new Castle Creations Mamba X esc into the rig along a Puller Pro 540L sensored brushless motor. Now we get to show you how it performs. John will take the rock racer out to the Holmes Hobbies rock course to see how it will do in crawling type situations. Will the rig handle? Will the system overheat? We'll show you and tell you what is happening during the tests. But this is really a rock racer, so how quick will the new brushless system be? You can't miss this part and John shows you just what kind of rip you can get from the electronics swap. There's lots of action in this video and some problems arise too. If you're a Redcat Wendigo or a rock racer owner, you'll want to see here what a Holmes Hobbies brushless system can do for you!
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Good video, I look forward to seeing your next video after the steering and drag brake tuning is completed
Thx for the videos John
John Holmes: “I can do the things so you know what not to do.”
Me: “Awww but that looks like a whole lotta fun though.”
Yes, yes it is
Love watching your channel and love your cheap motors all can afford but I finally now will be able to pull the trigger on a puller pro when I can find one keep up great work and stay safe have wonderful day.
Motto should be:
"Slow enough to haul nitroglycerin , powerful enough to break parts the first time out".
Hahaha
You are the Bob Ross of RC. 👍
When I seen your first Castle-link tune...I was like "we tune almost identical".
I've noticed on the Revolver and 4274S I only need to run 70% drag-brake and medium on ramp-up.
Even on my 35 pound BC8 Mammoth with the 1000kv Revolver...just so much torque and drag-brake.
I had the 4100 in my wraith with an 11t pinion. It was great until I wanted to do some real crawling. Then she got hot. Swapped to a 3500 and 9t pinion. Now it's amazing.
That motor combi in a Bomber .....epic !!
oh yeah!
Very Nice ! I am already looking to replace the Spektrum system in my RYFT. Taking a hard look at this system for a Bouncer with Punch and Good Throttle control.
thinking of a yard course like a KOH where you bust ass between gates with rock crawls for best time.
so does this motor have enoufh punch for axial ryft or is it to smooth startup
Got my windy dango yesterday. I think mine is going to become a mega truck
Two things I’ve noticed with the drag brake ramp: first is that it doesn’t seem to ramp at low rpm. Just comes on and I like it like that for crawling. Second, I have to use the 2nd slowest setting, and it still comes on instantly at low rpm but progressively once the rig is moving. But iirc you have yours set to high and with such a strong motor brake I think you’re seeing that child.
good of you to post an imperfect run on testing, looks like plenty of speed for what I have in mind. Besides what a Bouncer needs is Punch and not so much top Speed, need to be able to launch up that hill from a short approach, yet still be able to finesse a crawl when needed.
Bouncing I will probably run a weak drag brake at about 30-40% with a short ramp to grab the hill on a bounce.
"steering doesn't just change for no reason" lol this must be your first redcat. The reason I abandoned the brand for even bashing. Spent more time adjusting trim constantly than driving. Thanks for the video
Great video! That thing holds up like you'd expect a Redcat to. Keep up the great work John!!! Any idea of when we'll see the SHV500V3 back in stock? I'm so ready to have one in my rig.
For me the temps don’t shoot up until I get into 2nd gear. Crawling actually brings the temps down with the fan. It draws low amps crawling even under full throttle launching up obstacles, but in 2nd gear it sucks the life out of my batteries. Pulled 1800 watts thus far, and consumes 85% more amp hours vs the standard 2700kv.
Interestingly the 4100r stays around 150-160f but the fan stays on the entire run. The 2700 will push the mamba x to 120-140f but the fan never comes on. Robert @ castle tells people on the forum it’s ok to run this thing to 200f and that his steams water off it. Also their 18 mosfets can handle 180 amps continuous iirc. I have all those comments screen shotted in case I break something. Lol.
It’s not a question of temperature running this motor on my rig, it’s that my 5ah 3S pack dies too quickly... that and this thing throws scale boulders at me and it hurts.
One tip on the bodyclips, if you slide them onto the body (A fender opening will work. you won't lose any body pins by accident
I wish you would go back to the wendigo with a low kv brushless system and marksman tires and crawl it!
Looks like a blast. But, I've got a Wraith 1.9 which was advertised as a rock racer, so now I need a rock crawler (I thought that was what I was getting with the Wraith 1.9, oops). So, recommendations? I would like it to be a capable rig, but also fun.
Nice video 👍 Seems like you have to develop a more intelligent drag break 👍 Maybe with e.g. three modes, so when on low rpm it's one mode, medium another and so forth 🙂
You need the drag brake on the aux so you can adjust on the fly
I have mine set off my steering so that when I turn it brakes hard!
Nice cartwheel 🤸♀️ action. But seriously I have mine setup on crawl race mode and high gear with low ramp speed and 60% brakes. It’s perfect.
But this 4100r motor is ridiculous with its brakes. Flipped my trx6 ass over roof when I stopped it in front of me as the ground transitioned from sand to grass. That’s a long truck to flip that way and it was from the 70% brakes (expo set to 50% radio = 20% brake) and not the drag brake that did it.
That mandingo has a lot of torque twist.
Hey Mr. Holmes, I just got this set up for my Wendigo, however, I’m really modifying the rear suspension and going to run 1.9’s. I’m going to play around with my local u4rc group, but I was wondering what pinion you would suggest with that set up? I’ll likely do more trailing than racing.
John.... You're going to make the perfect multi-role Rig out of Winona YET!! Maybe not a hardcore Crawler, but at least on par with the Wrath. I have faith!!
With THAT much KV, you can definitely afford to gear down. 😉
Please stay SAFE! 😷
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
I did the same upgrades John and ended up with 30 % drag break and very slow ramp , 50% reverse and replaced the transfer case gears plus the transfer case drive shaft ...add traxxas Jeto rod end to one side and traxxas trx4 rod end to steering arm a great deal better....
any change to the link length using the different ends? That keep it the same?
@@HolmesHobbies A little the drag link I had to bend a little also added small o rings to drag link to tighten up...had to recenter steering arm end point adjustment was much better after ward ...also used GT5 transmitter with upgraded reciver with gyro in it....
I think you may enable rock racer mode on an additional channel for speed run
Or can set it to the steering so you get full brakes when you turn! Really make that thing fun.
What if you shorten the wheelbase?
Man, i thought I was hard on my rigs!!! Wynona is scared of you!!! She is self breaking on purpose!!!!
I destroyed the rear axle on my by landing a double back flip of a snow bank on 3s
@@deadw0lf997 That is some awesome breakage!!!
Glad you showed the problem and the fix. Could have just edited that out. That says alot to me. I'll be going with Holmes over hobbywing for sure
I did and his motors are so damn impressive. And the mamba x is a great platform.
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Where did you buy the motor from?
live2be4x4 I got my 2700kv from rc crawler country and the 4100kv r strait from Holmes Hobbies.
We appreciate the support! Glad I could literally wiggle wires on camera and have the problem go away. Otherwise I would have gone sensorless for the vid.
@@live2be4x4 I just noticed that rcmart has the 3300kv stubby puller pro in.
I don't know where any standards are though.
www.rcmart.com/holmes-hobbies-puller-pro-v2-stubby-3300kv-rock-crawler-sensored-brushless-motor-120100054-00100613
Hell yeah
Im a wire wiggler from way back 💯
Hey John I'm building a kyosho fo-xx as a trail truck. I'm wanting a nice system for low speed that I can still bash very similar to what you're doing here. What motor and esc do you recommend for such a large rig? Thank you for your help
I'm thinking of getting the Wendigo builders kit and putting a brushed 35T or something in it for crawling. Am I crazy?
She's a real wild child John. While you're adjusting the ramp on the drag brake, tame that reverse.
"castle mamba x in the red cat wendingo" are you having a stroke, sir?
Doesn’t your esc warn you if the sensor wire is no longer detected? I’ve not heard it, but mine is setup to. Heck it tells me when it clears my logs.
Could I run this motor in the cen racing f450? I need to know
Will the 3500kv puller pro v2 standard b good for 1.9 U4 rig ?
Well, here’s hoping my heavily upgraded Bomber fairs better as the initial test run with the same PP V2 4100kv is happening later today👍
Should be pretty solid
HolmesHobbies Well wasn’t able to get a true first run in, but just uploaded a quick “bench” run video:)
Awesome truck. Love the system. Love the low speed. I have a question for you, when we will see the v2 puller pro back in stock?
Last estimate was in about 4 weeks. This pandemic really hurt the supply chains.
HolmesHobbies I understand i just really need(want) some new motors for both my trucks. Thanks for the response and stay safe
Also would like to see how to get rid of drive train slop also heard you were from MO I live inCape Girardeau Mo south of st Louis
Love the reality of your videos.
I think your definition of being tough on a truck is a lot different than mine. It's only a tie rod, but that seems weak to me.
I could have been harder, but the tie rod is the typical fail point and I found it. Pushing a tall geared rig through the rocks with a high KV motor is also a pretty bad idea. Normally I treat my own rigs a lot easier. I also have some built rigs that can take this sort of abuse, but they also have nearly $2k in them.
What size kv motor is that
I use slow ramp on my bomber running 4s with a Mamba X and a 3800kv. She’s fast
I use slow ramp as well on my trx6. Instant at low rpm and really applies the brakes progressively when wound up.
Will that body fit the Gen 8 with body posts as far as scaling is concerned?
not sure on that, don't have a gen8 in the fleet
Lmfao, FAIL. Im love seeing unedited real world problems when upgrading. It happens to us all. I love your channel and your products. Its like if we could watch Mr. Lamborghini explain why you should buy his car.
Back in my diesel tuning days I met a Cummins engineer. My truck ran 65psig on a single large s300 and 75psig on twins. The engineer put his rental car into reverse and kept doing burnouts and slamming it into drive. Snapped the axle shaft and got out of the car and walked away. Might have been drunk... definitely “lubricated.”
But if that’s how a Cummins man thinks I know their shift is built strong. And everything around our trucks broke besides that 1300lbs, iirc, beautiful strait 6.
Not ramping! Lol I would love to buy some Holmes hobbies motors! Any ideas on when you'll have some in stock or are you playing the waiting game as well?
yep, just waiting. Likely a month for Pullers. We have most everything else.
Metal wheels would help lower the centre of gravity, l think that would be a big help to make this truck more stable. I think l want a Wendango now lol
LOL. Did you ever put straps on the pins?
Have you ever heard Winonas big brown beaver.
Woah nellie!!
So would this motor with a 2 speed an underdrive gearsets in the re-release bomber help with that unloading issues, thanks
I have version 1 Bomber with the 2 speed. I run a HH 2700 Trailmaster pro 2-pole with mamba X on 4s and it’s incredible. My rig weighs in at 7.2lbs
yes, especially in first gear it will behave much more controllable between high and low load
So was it the ball end messing up the steering?
seems so
Do you make motors for drag racing ?
not really. Working on it though
Aux wire is for this exact purpose.
So I can turn the drag brake off and no instant reverse.super handy feature.then back to full crawler mode.
Your motors are too good for 100 drag brake..lol
I always remove the on/off switch one the Castle stuff.
Prone to failure!
Mine failed day 1, but it just wouldn’t let the esc turn off. Then the truck suddenly lost power on my 3rd run... I left the switch off and it magically started working again. Flipped it on and everything was working.
So I leave it on and just pull the battery. I should probably bypass it all together.
They all are. Don't like em at all.
One of the front tires is almost completely off
What is the ETA on the puller pro 540?
about a month for the stuff currently out of stock
"We'll just shove this back in, one more time, for the sake of testing..." That's what she said!!!
Mo POWA BABY!!
The tshirt is fantastic "your source for power".....the only thing is the electronics are put of stock everywhere :)))))))))
I heard that cant find them anywhere
Because they sold out faster than I could get more! Just a waiting game at this point. Thanks pandemic!
@@HolmesHobbies Better than a recession in the hobby 👍🏻
sumn magical about a boy and his wanddango xD
This motor is so angry, but it’s really insane how well it starts up so smooth but then throw rocks at you.
Literally, my 2700kv standard lightly sprays me legs with sand, but this thing sand blasts me and throws rocks.
But then it can slowly creep over any obstacle.
Omg 😱 you have 100% reverse on this motor. You’re insane! I have to use 60% not to send it flying off obstacles.
Its a beast of a motor! A lot of stator and magnet inside.
@@HolmesHobbies Yeah, I'd love to see it compared with the standard and stubby on your dyno. I have my throttle setup for expo and it still accelerates like its possessed with light throttle.
i am curious why do you never use your own esc?
It's out of date and old tech. specifically, it doesn't have the capability of active drag.
Working on new ones now.
I dont check my temps for rock crawling he says. Its a little warm he says
Funny, for your speed test bring in a professional driver like myself. I would be glad to help😁😁🤣🤣✌✌
Hi
Okay, John, I just realized that you are the person of which I've needed to ask a certain question: It's been a pet peeve for years that reverse is almost always jerky. As if a voltage buildup has been released but not controlled. There are the obvious ways around that, such as adjusting expo, punch, whatever, but those are bandaid fixes for something that shouldn't happen & is hugely disappointing to watch when you're trying to 'watch' your rig perform in scale.
Being an authority on rc motors, perhaps you can explain why this is such a largely ignored function in esc design? Is it just that not enough people complain? Imagine if 'forward' always started with the same wheel-raising jerk?
Evidently we can put expo on the brake curve, and turn it down to 50% speed too. Would really help soften it up.
6:59 who needs a high lift when your torque twist acts like a low rider on hydraulics. Lol.
Thank you for saving most of us $400. I really liked the Design and looks of it, but I just don't think Redcat executed a very well made product. Luckily your motors seem to make everything better, they kind of have Midas Touch for whatever rig they get installed into. I Would rather buy Losi Rock Rey at this point in the Rock Racer category and install a Puller Pro in it.
I am really hoping Traxxas makes a Trx4 and 6 Rock Racer at some point. I would also like Element Rc to eventually make a Rock Racer...
Fun video Idea: I think you should install the IFS kit on your Enduro with a High KV Puller Pro and your 500v3 and slap some 2.2's on it to make your own Element Rock Racer. Crawl it and then take it to a BMX park and just Send It.
Definitely no Ramping going on, that motor is a Beast!
would love to see Element Rock racer, with the IFS.
about to pull trigger on the buy 2 for 499.
but I want a proper rock racer.
leaning towards Rock Rey or the DB48...
I agree. this thing just doesn't seem to do anything well, no matter what 'category' it's supposed to fit in. It looks really jumpy, unstable and tippy at high speed, and that's just on relatively flat grass. Imagine if he were trying to cross a rock bed at speed. There would be no control at all. It's not a rock crawler either, that was made evident in the video. I have a rockrey and while not perfect, it is a much more capable rock racer than this thing by far.
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I want a puller pro but sadly out of stock. Everywhere.
We will have them, but its just waiting right now due to the pandemic.
@@HolmesHobbies Ill admit i am slightly stalking your webpage. I check every few days.
@@HolmesHobbies I am looking for some more wheel speed but still retain low speed control on my trx4 sport. Currently stock motor Hw 1080 esc. What would you install? Puller pro w/mamba X or just a better brushed motor? I want to notice the upgrade though. You are the expert.
Imagine if it had a TRX-4 2 speed!
This motor is insane with a stock trx4 2 speed gearing. Launches scale boulders in high. But completely controlled in low. It’s very fun.
@@KTMcaptain haha I meant imagine the Wendigo with TRX-4 trans! and this motor!
Upgrades cost more than the truck?
Thats how its done , brother.
Mike McElligott $300 for the esc and motor separately, and it’s probably around $260-$270 for his combo deal.
It’s the standard motor that’s a great deal, sure much less power (1200watt vs 1800watt peak from my logs) but it’s ultra smooth and $55 cheaper.
Those wheel nuts will loosen on ya
No, seriously... what if you shorten the wheelbase? It should tight it up for better clearance. Also, I don't know how to, and this rig supposedly has the ability. It comes set in the middle of its shortest and longest configuration, but from the way it looks to me you either have to cut the frame or buy adapted parts to make it work. Either way, I'm clueless because they show a picture of the frame and the adjustment, but nothing I can find on how to do it. I would personally like to see what happens if shortened, and go back to normal if I don't like it, but neither willing to cut nor spend a ton of cash.
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Man, these things seem like money pits, breaking so easily. My redcat short course sc10 is the same way. Fast, but something almost always breaks on it every couple batteries. Doesn’t seem to crawl well, and seems like it’ll break the first time it hits a rock “rock-racing”... just sayin
Instead of hand of God should be hand of John
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Win a dang dingo. Lol
You do good making a bad situation look ok! Lol. Love your videos! Donald trumping the corona virus!