*Comparison Timestamps* 0:01 What the dog doin’? 0:08 Intro *Byzance Models:* 1:31 Byzance Explanation 2:40 Traditional 3:40 Brilliant 4:47 Dual 5:37 Dark 6:29 Extra Dry 7:20 Vintage Pure 8:29 Vintage Sand 9:38 Jazz 10:38 Foundry Reserve *Pure Alloy Models:* 11:32 Pure Alloy Explanation 11:55 Pure Alloy 12:55 Pure Alloy Custom *Classics Custom Models:* 13:53 Classics Custom Explanation 14:30 Classics Custom Brilliant 15:29 Classics Custom Dark (15:21 Ride Bell Hit) 16:21 Classics Custom Dual *Head 2 Head:* *Hi-Hats:* 17:24 Byzance Line Hats 18:53 Pure Alloy Line Hats 19:09 Classics Custom Line Hats *Left-Side Crashes:* 19:33 Byzance Line Crashes 21:09 Pure Alloy Line Crashes 21:29 Classics Custom Line Crashes *Right-Side Crashes:* 21:56 Byzance Line Crashes 23:29 Pure Alloy Line Crashes 23:49 Classics Custom Line Crashes *Rides:* 24:20 Byzance Line Rides 26:35 Pure Alloy Line Rides 27:02 Classics Custom Line Rides 27:54 Outro Hope you find this as helpful as I found this video :)
To me, Meinl is the only company that has every sound scape covered. Others try but just don't do it as well. I like that they went with their own sounds and then came back towards the traditional sounds and nailed those as well.
@@bishopoftroy no I ment what I said thanks. Sabian, zildjian, paiste, they all try to do a dry, dark, gritty sound like Meinl. Only after Meinl started making waves with theirs.
@@Ashlord alot try to copy their dry and dark sounds. And they kinda get there. Sort of. But they never get close to the dirty, gritty sounds. They all fall short.
Been waiting for this one. Best cymbals in the world to my hands and ears. Meinl traditional and brilliant byzance cymbals are just the all around versatile cymbals I use for everything. For practice I use the extra dry and vintage line for lower volume and dry sound. My favorite cymbals are the 14 inch byzance traditional thin hats, 18 inch brilliant thin crash, the 21 inch byzance traditional polyphonic ride, the 22 inch byzance vintage pure light ride, and the 20 inch byzance traditional China.
@@drumcenternh This video really solidified my decision. I'm getting these for my birthday! (specifically the 15 hats, 18 and 20 crash, and 22 ride pack you guys have)
I've owned and played just about every series from Meinl (except for the Foundry Reserve), and I can say that they're the real deal. Their cymbals have consistently been great, the quality has been outstanding, the customer/warranty support has been second to none, and their commitment to innovating and covering every side of the tonal spectrum has them being heads and shoulders above the other manufacturers. This video was well done, with both the cymbals and even the drums sounding top notch. If I have one criticism for the video, it's the exclusion of the HCS Bronze series. It's easy to exclude them because they're less expensive and made of B8, but considering they're Meinl's only B8 line with its own range of specialty models (trash splash, trash crashes, trash chinas, and bells), it only makes sense to include them with the rest of their lineup.
I LOVE the Sand crashes (18”). It sounds “trashy” but not as trashy as an “effect” cymbal. I could see it being very useful! THANK YOU for all of your videos!! They are all top shelf and incredibly helpful. Well done!
Byzance Traditional are just an all time classic. Love it! Espacially the Crashes and the Ride. The Byzance Jazz Crashes are just superb, as well. The DUAL 22" Extra Dry Crash Ride is killer!
Solid cymbals definitely, I started using them in 2014 and finally I’ve completed the set I want. They are not cheap, but they worth it. Specially the Byzance series.
Yes, back in the days they only made budget cymbals which sounded cheap. The first Meinl which sounded good to my ears were the Raker (late 80ies) and Amun (in the late 90ies). With the Bycance they entered the top brands of cymbal manufacturers.
Meinl is the only company that accounts for every cymbal line to mix and match when they design their cymbal sounds. The only complaint I have, that would be absolutely awesome, is a raw bell hybrid that was 3000 g's or more. The raw bell ride was a cutting ride, but it was dark and usually in the 3600 g range.
Love Meinl cymbals. My favorite hi-hats are the foundry reserves. Such a rich sound. I have a vintage sand ride in my kit, but I also have a mix of crashes from across the traditional, dark, and dual byzance models. All fantastic.
Have to agree. My 15" foundry reserve hi hats are my pride and joy. Love my sand ride, but I have to say they have to age to sound their best - the new ones like on this video don't sound the same, needs a few years of patina on it! Other than that, 18" dual crash, 20" extra thin hammered crash, 20" equilibrium China, fat stack, baby stack, and 8" brilliant splash, but I have my eye on a few more..
@@escadrums2 also each cymbal is hand hammered so even the same exact size and model will sound different from each other based on weight and slight human differences in the hammering but mostly the weight. I would never buy a Meinl cymbal off a site like sweetwater or guitar center cause you are just hoping to get lucky and find the right sounding one. They are all gonna sound great but some are drier than others or trashier or heavier or thinner and so on. I only buy my meinls on mycymbal Memphis drum shop or other sites like that where you can hear the demo of the EXACT cymbal you are purchasing and buy that exact one in that demo.
I don't know if it's possible to convince me that there is a better line of cymbals than the Foundry Reserves. Just perfect in every way. Thanks for making this video guys. Must have been tedious but I, and I'm sure many other, really appreciate it. Hope this isn't the last one in this series
I honestly like the Reserves the least. The Jazz line and a lot of their thin models sound better in my opinion. Id go with Reserves if I was playing straight rock music for sure.
( real name Jimmy Berlo) Pure Alloy's & Custom's are so precise & Powerful, / John Bonham would be using them! and the 3 different series of Classic Customs (and Dual version) are the best semi-pro Cymbals there are, back in the day there was no equivalent alternative.
This is great and exactly what I was looking for as I was recently introduced to these cymbals on a friend's kit and thought the sounds were unique and interesting. I appreciate the side-by-side video as this helps me to hear the differences in tones and resonance of each of the cymbals. well done.
Those Pure Alloy Customs sound fantastic and embody everything I want to hear in a crash cymbal and more. Nice cutting attack with a quick, breathy, and complex medium-low undertone that lets you know it's there before getting out of the way right on time. Because of the way you guys are really attacking the crashes, this is the best Meinl crash demo I've heard to date. Fantastic job as usual. Also, I don't know if it's the mics, the Weathermasters, or both, but those Ludwig toms are throatier and more attack-laden than any Ludwig demo I've seen you guys make!
15" foundry reserve hihat, 18" jazz extra thin, 22" dual crash ride or 22" extra dry medium ride, 19" dual crash. It's the setup that i'm in love with. Should i include 10" vintage trash splash? 😁
Great video! I've got Meinls across all Byzance lines except Dual and Extra Dry and this video speaks pretty accurately to the differences between lines. One or two of the cymbals here I have and they sound a little different in my space (to be expected) to the recordings here - as a tool to understand the ranges this is excellent. Any prospective shoppers should also be aware there are some gems hidden within these ranges which aren't featured here (22" Raw Bell Ride for instance) which are kinda like unique outliers. Again, really excellent work team!
Definitly. My two favorite cymbals…the traditional polyphonic ride and the traditional byzance thin hats which I prefer over the medium hats. They should’ve covered the artist concept line too with all of those amazing stacks. The fat stack is one of my all time favorite cymbals as well and equillibrium China.
Fantastic stuff boyz -- thanks for doing this. I have a set of the Meinl Traditional's (the same set you all used but I think my ride is a 21") that I've had since 2013. To my ears they're the most even and overall pleasing sound to me that can pretty much work for almost any style depending on the player. Record really well which is important to me. From this vid I also really like the Brilliant and Pure Alloy Custom. Interestingly, for ride cymbals I favor the Dual or Dark line, so,...I will probably mix one of those in here soon. I also like the Sand ride.
That Byzance vintage pure line up was a pleasant surprise. From the looks of the cymbals you’d think they would be more on the dry side. But they have the perfect balance of washyness (not a word but you know what i mean) and dryness. Sounds killer
I personally use the 18 in classics brilliant crash as a crash ride and I’ve really been enjoying how that sounds. I want to get a big apple 24 in ride, but until then I’m happy with how this sounds
This is a brilliant idea, brilliantly executed. Thank you for providing such a valuable service. Sure, a drummer interested in these cymbals will still want to play them live in a store before making such an investment. But this video is much superior to the usual sound samples on manufacturer sites, which either give you an identical pattern played on the cymbal with no other drums or cymbals in the sample (Paiste), or give you that plus the cymbals played along to a generic rock track (Sabian). This video lets you see and hear the cymbals played by a live drummer you can witness with your own eyes. Crucial project, perfectly executed. Ten out of ten. Cheers!
For me, I really like the pure alloy dark and the dark custom dual. I think both sound amazing. I try not to look at a brand when I go for cymbals just focus on the sound and the inspiration they provide. I am currently using the A custom line but with quick beat hats and loving that especially the 21" sweet ride. However, after listening to that Byzance Brilliant ride I might have to invest asap.
Terrific video!!! This so, so helpful and really packed full! Thank you for the effort of putting it together! Please consider doing equivalent video with other Cymbal manufacturers. I own a set of the Vintage Sands and one of Zildjian As & Ks. I really like all of the Brilliant series cymbals, and the Jazz, Dual and Pure Alloy crashes. I guess I’m becoming more of a light and bright cymbal guy as I get older.
When I heard the MB10’s at the PASIC show here in Ohio 14 years ago, I sold all my 2002’s the next day. When I heard the Pure Alloys last summer? I bought a whole set. Will keep MB10’s for touring punk shows. But the Alloys are my go to rehearsing & recording pie plates. Just astounding!
Honestly, I was pretty blown away by the Pure Alloy Customs. Definitely sound better to me than any other B12 cymbals I've ever heard. Might even sound better to my ear than some of the Byzance cymbals.
I love my Meinl Byzance 20” Extra Hammered Thin crash and my 22” Dual Crash/ride. Next purchase for me is the 16” Extra Dry Medium Thin Hats. Meinl is da BOMB!
started a Zildjian guy, went to Sabian because Mr Weckl did, ended up at Meinl because they sound like what i hear in my head. the first thing i would add that i don't have is one (or more) Extra Dry Dual crashes. they're nearly perfect. also, yes, those drums sound sweet. i have more shell packs than i should, but i have to admit, they sound really nice.
I live in a city where every single music store has closed but one Piano store that sells you guessed it pianos. So these demos and others are critical for me to decide on gear.
I really love Meinl. I have, I think, 14 cymbals? Half of them are crashes. Across all sorts of ranges. Soundcaster custom, HCS Bronze, Mb8, Byzance, classic Custom brill and dark. Love them
GREAT VID, I have a couple of the custom dark. (Switching from Sabian). Love the meinl custom dual look and sound. I'm a "professional novice" with a mapex voyeger 5pc. I like to play classic rock from the '70s. Video was very inspiring and educational. Keep it up!
For someone who has been a long time Sabian aficionado, I think this great video and demonstration of Meinl cymbals has me more interested! Do you have any general series and pairing recommendations for someone with a combination of AAX, AA and HH series Sabians? I've typically gone for the bright sounds, but I'm not really certain I want to make the jump to Meinl's brilliant cymbals as I really enjoy some of the vintage and darker, washy sounds, and so far I'm not digging the brilliant sounds of Meinl, such as the classic customs.
Awesome video! Thank you for making this, super helpful! And the drums sound wicked. Not that I need another cymbal, but that Byzance Jazz line sound so good to my ears. No, not a jazz guy, they just sound so good and I want them to meet my 2B sticks.
In my opinion i think having the classic custom dual crash , the 15 inch dry hi hat , the byzance extta thin hammered crushed ride and thr fx cymbals of your choice is the most versatile choice so you can play most genres
I always (with every cymbal brand) gravitate towards the jazz lines even though I dont play jazz. They just always have this unique mellow sound which I really like. Also the jazz rides seem to be the only ones where you get a somewhat tamed bell sound. I really dont like when you hit a bell and your ears fall of because its so cutting.
I would never have considered listening to Meinl cymbals if DCP hadn't done a video on them because I only took Zildjian, Sabian and Paiste seriously. Didn't know what I was missing. I especially liked the Traditional, Brillant and Jazz lines but they were all impressive. I'm actually shocked at how good the line sounds. Thanks guys, for always producing such great and informative videos. And the Ludwig kit was incredible. From a sound perspective it's tough to beat their Classic Maple line.
The dog is a Zildjian endorser so he can't be seen on camera with another brand. You know how it is...
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I thought you were talkin bout the poor bastard playing lmao
*Comparison Timestamps*
0:01 What the dog doin’?
0:08 Intro
*Byzance Models:*
1:31 Byzance Explanation
2:40 Traditional
3:40 Brilliant
4:47 Dual
5:37 Dark
6:29 Extra Dry
7:20 Vintage Pure
8:29 Vintage Sand
9:38 Jazz
10:38 Foundry Reserve
*Pure Alloy Models:*
11:32 Pure Alloy Explanation
11:55 Pure Alloy
12:55 Pure Alloy Custom
*Classics Custom Models:*
13:53 Classics Custom Explanation
14:30 Classics Custom Brilliant
15:29 Classics Custom Dark (15:21 Ride Bell Hit)
16:21 Classics Custom Dual
*Head 2 Head:*
*Hi-Hats:*
17:24 Byzance Line Hats
18:53 Pure Alloy Line Hats
19:09 Classics Custom Line Hats
*Left-Side Crashes:*
19:33 Byzance Line Crashes
21:09 Pure Alloy Line Crashes
21:29 Classics Custom Line Crashes
*Right-Side Crashes:*
21:56 Byzance Line Crashes
23:29 Pure Alloy Line Crashes
23:49 Classics Custom Line Crashes
*Rides:*
24:20 Byzance Line Rides
26:35 Pure Alloy Line Rides
27:02 Classics Custom Line Rides
27:54 Outro
Hope you find this as helpful as I found this video :)
Thank you!
Thank you.
Appreciate it🤘🏻
the only thing I care about is what the dog is doing. >:/
I need to know.
For the past few years, Meinl has been growing on me, and I really like their cymbal, especially the Byzance cymbals
I might be crazy, but they sound much like a Zildjian k to me.
Same my last few cymbal purchases have been Meinl. I’m not brand loyal they just had what I was looking for.
Same here man I’ve been trying to add more Meinl to my kit. So many options
Have you heard the byzance polyphonic ride?
@@SGray44444 no they don’t
To me, Meinl is the only company that has every sound scape covered. Others try but just don't do it as well.
I like that they went with their own sounds and then came back towards the traditional sounds and nailed those as well.
Absolutely agreed. They have the traditional cymbals and they have dark, ugly and trashy sounding cymbals.
Maybe you mean they care a bit more about the quality of all their series and do the marketing well but the main brands have all the spectrum covered.
Personally I think Sabian used to have all the cymbal styles covered i.e. Turkish and European styles till they discontinued their PRO line.
@@bishopoftroy no I ment what I said thanks.
Sabian, zildjian, paiste, they all try to do a dry, dark, gritty sound like Meinl. Only after Meinl started making waves with theirs.
@@Ashlord alot try to copy their dry and dark sounds. And they kinda get there. Sort of. But they never get close to the dirty, gritty sounds. They all fall short.
Came for the cymbals, stayed for the drums. Great job, guys. Something in there for everyone.
Thanks Peter, these drums are pretty amazing!
came to find out what the dog was doing. >:/
very disappointed.
@@petermasalsky8844 dude was killing it on the vintage pures!
Pulled out the leftovers and sat myself down for this one! Awesome showcase!
Been waiting for this one. Best cymbals in the world to my hands and ears. Meinl traditional and brilliant byzance cymbals are just the all around versatile cymbals I use for everything. For practice I use the extra dry and vintage line for lower volume and dry sound. My favorite cymbals are the 14 inch byzance traditional thin hats, 18 inch brilliant thin crash, the 21 inch byzance traditional polyphonic ride, the 22 inch byzance vintage pure light ride, and the 20 inch byzance traditional China.
Those Pure Alloys are on another level! Not too bright and not too dark, really sound great when recorded, and really project live as well.
Couldn't agree more!
@@drumcenternh This video really solidified my decision. I'm getting these for my birthday! (specifically the 15 hats, 18 and 20 crash, and 22 ride pack you guys have)
Yeah those definitely shouldn’t be overlooked. I hope to have a pure alloy in my setup soon
And yes, I did end up getting these for my birthday last year! Went to the store and picked them up, loving them!
Dude totally. I have mostly Byzance BUT I absolutely love Pure Alloy. Especially Pure Alloy Custom Hammered. Wow.
I know this took tons of work. Thank you! I knew i wanted some Meinls but had no data on the diversity of their sounds. Rawk
That drumkit is FIRE
yeah right, sounds and looks crazy good
I am a Zildjian lover, but...the Sands, bycanze duals, and the extra drys are really interesting!!
I've owned and played just about every series from Meinl (except for the Foundry Reserve), and I can say that they're the real deal. Their cymbals have consistently been great, the quality has been outstanding, the customer/warranty support has been second to none, and their commitment to innovating and covering every side of the tonal spectrum has them being heads and shoulders above the other manufacturers.
This video was well done, with both the cymbals and even the drums sounding top notch. If I have one criticism for the video, it's the exclusion of the HCS Bronze series. It's easy to exclude them because they're less expensive and made of B8, but considering they're Meinl's only B8 line with its own range of specialty models (trash splash, trash crashes, trash chinas, and bells), it only makes sense to include them with the rest of their lineup.
Ever since the paiste video I was hoping you'd do one for meinl. I'm so mother loving excited!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Hehe yeah, my 2 favorite brands. Now I’m just waiting on the Sabian video :)
I love 💕😘🥳 Meinl byzance Brilliant cymbals and Classic custom dark cymbals. Because it is loud and powerful!
The sound that had the most effect is when you missed a hit! Loved that!
Hoo! 😂😂😂
It’s been decades but as a teenager of the 80’s I still think of the Raker Series.
I LOVE the Sand crashes (18”). It sounds “trashy” but not as trashy as an “effect” cymbal. I could see it being very useful!
THANK YOU for all of your videos!! They are all top shelf and incredibly helpful. Well done!
Byzance Traditional are just an all time classic. Love it! Espacially the Crashes and the Ride. The Byzance Jazz Crashes are just superb, as well. The DUAL 22" Extra Dry Crash Ride is killer!
Solid cymbals definitely, I started using them in 2014 and finally I’ve completed the set I want. They are not cheap, but they worth it. Specially the Byzance series.
The Classics Custom Dark would be the cymbals for me. Thank you for an awesome video. All the best.
Good choice and thanks for watching!
They are really good sounding cymbals at a fair price. For a semi-pro it is surely good enough (and even for a professional drummer)
I remember when they were junk 3rd rate cymbals ( at least the ones I saw in the 80s). They have really come a long way. Impressive sounds.
Yes, back in the days they only made budget cymbals which sounded cheap. The first Meinl which sounded good to my ears were the Raker (late 80ies) and Amun (in the late 90ies). With the Bycance they entered the top brands of cymbal manufacturers.
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
As a loyal Paiste fan, I must say those Foundry Reserve series cymbals sound beautiful!
Every ☠️ had me laughing so hard! You guys must have so much fun making these! The cymbals and drums sound and look outstanding!
I like the Vintage Sands and the Extra Drys the best.... and the Pure Alloy Customs are a surprise.
Great video....thanks for putting it together!
Thanks for watching!
Aren’t those extra drys crazy?
I love all of them! Meinl is just awesome in every way
Meinl is the only company that accounts for every cymbal line to mix and match when they design their cymbal sounds. The only complaint I have, that would be absolutely awesome, is a raw bell hybrid that was 3000 g's or more. The raw bell ride was a cutting ride, but it was dark and usually in the 3600 g range.
hey this was really helpful. Especially appreciated the second half / going through each cymbal in each series . thank you .
Love Meinl cymbals. My favorite hi-hats are the foundry reserves. Such a rich sound. I have a vintage sand ride in my kit, but I also have a mix of crashes from across the traditional, dark, and dual byzance models. All fantastic.
Have to agree. My 15" foundry reserve hi hats are my pride and joy. Love my sand ride, but I have to say they have to age to sound their best - the new ones like on this video don't sound the same, needs a few years of patina on it!
Other than that, 18" dual crash, 20" extra thin hammered crash, 20" equilibrium China, fat stack, baby stack, and 8" brilliant splash, but I have my eye on a few more..
Thank you for this video. I've wondered about this line and haven't had the chance to hear them anywhere.
Glad it was helpful!
Gotta say I like the Vintage Sand line a lot. The Dual's seem excellent also. But the bottom line is you gotta go hit them yourself.
It’s sooo hard to pick cymbals off the internet alone. But these videos definitely help
Definitely, the thing that sucks is that it's really difficult to find the exact cymbal you want to try
@@escadrums2 also each cymbal is hand hammered so even the same exact size and model will sound different from each other based on weight and slight human differences in the hammering but mostly the weight. I would never buy a Meinl cymbal off a site like sweetwater or guitar center cause you are just hoping to get lucky and find the right sounding one. They are all gonna sound great but some are drier than others or trashier or heavier or thinner and so on. I only buy my meinls on mycymbal Memphis drum shop or other sites like that where you can hear the demo of the EXACT cymbal you are purchasing and buy that exact one in that demo.
Great video, thanks guys!. Really cool brand, I miss my old classics and Rakers from the 90's.
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Anyone else catch the snippet from Dillinger Escape plan toward the beginning? Love that groove on Miss Machine,
Good video. I like those dual's , extra dry and the classic custom dark
One of the best videos you have ever made guys...Thank you very, very much:)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm impressed with how you flip the stereo image depending on the camera angle
My favorite set's gotta be the pure alloy custom. I just love the dark but balanced sound it produce.
Same loved them
Meinl Byzance Traditionals all day.. but I will say I made a little hybrid kit and incorporated a 20" Dark Ride and LOVED how it sounded.
Love that you guys leave out the mistakes instead of retake it again 😂
Great video! Amazing sounding cymbals!
Thanks a lot!
Love the Extra Dry line.
I don't know if it's possible to convince me that there is a better line of cymbals than the Foundry Reserves. Just perfect in every way.
Thanks for making this video guys. Must have been tedious but I, and I'm sure many other, really appreciate it. Hope this isn't the last one in this series
I honestly like the Reserves the least. The Jazz line and a lot of their thin models sound better in my opinion. Id go with Reserves if I was playing straight rock music for sure.
Great cymbals. My favourits are the Jazz line.
Greetings from Germany.
I'd like to see head to head comparison of the Pure Alloy and Paiste Giant Beat as it seems clear that is the cymbal they were copying.
( real name Jimmy Berlo) Pure Alloy's & Custom's are so precise & Powerful, / John Bonham would be using them! and the 3 different series of Classic Customs (and Dual version) are the best semi-pro Cymbals there are, back in the day there was no equivalent alternative.
This is great and exactly what I was looking for as I was recently introduced to these cymbals on a friend's kit and thought the sounds were unique and interesting. I appreciate the side-by-side video as this helps me to hear the differences in tones and resonance of each of the cymbals. well done.
Those Pure Alloy Customs sound fantastic and embody everything I want to hear in a crash cymbal and more. Nice cutting attack with a quick, breathy, and complex medium-low undertone that lets you know it's there before getting out of the way right on time. Because of the way you guys are really attacking the crashes, this is the best Meinl crash demo I've heard to date. Fantastic job as usual. Also, I don't know if it's the mics, the Weathermasters, or both, but those Ludwig toms are throatier and more attack-laden than any Ludwig demo I've seen you guys make!
15" foundry reserve hihat, 18" jazz extra thin, 22" dual crash ride or 22" extra dry medium ride, 19" dual crash. It's the setup that i'm in love with. Should i include 10" vintage trash splash? 😁
Obviously throw in the splash!
Great video! I've got Meinls across all Byzance lines except Dual and Extra Dry and this video speaks pretty accurately to the differences between lines. One or two of the cymbals here I have and they sound a little different in my space (to be expected) to the recordings here - as a tool to understand the ranges this is excellent. Any prospective shoppers should also be aware there are some gems hidden within these ranges which aren't featured here (22" Raw Bell Ride for instance) which are kinda like unique outliers.
Again, really excellent work team!
Totally dude! They have all these special cymbals within each line that you gotta look out for
Definitly. My two favorite cymbals…the traditional polyphonic ride and the traditional byzance thin hats which I prefer over the medium hats. They should’ve covered the artist concept line too with all of those amazing stacks. The fat stack is one of my all time favorite cymbals as well and equillibrium China.
I checked out the raw bell ride to see what it was about and I loved it, sounds awesome.
Fantastic stuff boyz -- thanks for doing this. I have a set of the Meinl Traditional's (the same set you all used but I think my ride is a 21") that I've had since 2013. To my ears they're the most even and overall pleasing sound to me that can pretty much work for almost any style depending on the player. Record really well which is important to me. From this vid I also really like the Brilliant and Pure Alloy Custom. Interestingly, for ride cymbals I favor the Dual or Dark line, so,...I will probably mix one of those in here soon. I also like the Sand ride.
Wow, impressive! Very nice sounding and a lot of different characters. 👍🏼
And thank very much for making these videos.
What da dog doin?
That Byzance vintage pure line up was a pleasant surprise. From the looks of the cymbals you’d think they would be more on the dry side. But they have the perfect balance of washyness (not a word but you know what i mean) and dryness. Sounds killer
My combo now is Sand 18”, 20”, 22” and FR 15” hats. Love the quick decay and buttery response.
I personally use the 18 in classics brilliant crash as a crash ride and I’ve really been enjoying how that sounds. I want to get a big apple 24 in ride, but until then I’m happy with how this sounds
This is a brilliant idea, brilliantly executed. Thank you for providing such a valuable service. Sure, a drummer interested in these cymbals will still want to play them live in a store before making such an investment. But this video is much superior to the usual sound samples on manufacturer sites, which either give you an identical pattern played on the cymbal with no other drums or cymbals in the sample (Paiste), or give you that plus the cymbals played along to a generic rock track (Sabian). This video lets you see and hear the cymbals played by a live drummer you can witness with your own eyes. Crucial project, perfectly executed. Ten out of ten. Cheers!
That Jazz Thin Ride tho 😍
Rocking a mix of standard byzcance an dual tones. Im in love.
For me, I really like the pure alloy dark and the dark custom dual. I think both sound amazing. I try not to look at a brand when I go for cymbals just focus on the sound and the inspiration they provide. I am currently using the A custom line but with quick beat hats and loving that especially the 21" sweet ride. However, after listening to that Byzance Brilliant ride I might have to invest asap.
Nice to see cymbals made in Turkey be so popular...but I still am with smaller Turkish companies. Same quality but more affordable.
That kit looks and sounds amazing. I’m thinking about checking out those cymbals.
Terrific video!!! This so, so helpful and really packed full! Thank you for the effort of putting it together! Please consider doing equivalent video with other Cymbal manufacturers.
I own a set of the Vintage Sands and one of Zildjian As & Ks. I really like all of the Brilliant series cymbals, and the Jazz, Dual and Pure Alloy crashes. I guess I’m becoming more of a light and bright cymbal guy as I get older.
Thanks! We did one on Paiste, too.
@@adamfrost8417 Hi Adam - would you please send me a link to the Paiste video? I haven’t been able to find it.
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@@drumcenternh - thank you; looking forward to watching it.
SUPER !!!! bravi ragazzi, mi piacete molto e trovo i vostri video ottimamente istruttivi e utili, grazie 1000 !!!!!
When I heard the MB10’s at the PASIC show here in Ohio 14 years ago, I sold all my 2002’s the next day. When I heard the Pure Alloys last summer? I bought a whole set. Will keep MB10’s for touring punk shows. But the Alloys are my go to rehearsing & recording pie plates. Just astounding!
Honestly, I was pretty blown away by the Pure Alloy Customs. Definitely sound better to me than any other B12 cymbals I've ever heard. Might even sound better to my ear than some of the Byzance cymbals.
I love my Meinl Byzance 20” Extra Hammered Thin crash and my 22” Dual Crash/ride. Next purchase for me is the 16” Extra Dry Medium Thin Hats. Meinl is da BOMB!
At last! 17 minutes in, what I was waiting for! Thank you
Thanks for this awesome video guys. Was definitely very educational. 🥁❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Y’all’s intro is same drum riff from Burn Halo - Dirty Little Girl. Gets me every time!
started a Zildjian guy, went to Sabian because Mr Weckl did, ended up at Meinl because they sound like what i hear in my head.
the first thing i would add that i don't have is one (or more) Extra Dry Dual crashes. they're nearly perfect.
also, yes, those drums sound sweet. i have more shell packs than i should, but i have to admit, they sound really nice.
You guys are great players!
Thank you sir!
The Byzance Traditional, Brilliant, and Dark hi hats are the best I've ever heard
I love the vintage and extra dry series. So cool. and a great price too!
The original Pure Alloys don’t get enough love IMO. Balanced and get out of the way.
Ikr. Super recording friendly, not too bright and not too dark, look beautiful and sound gorgeous
just recently purchased the Mike Johnston cymbal pack, it's fantastic
Usually a Paiste guy, but have some Byzance Brilliant Med hats and 22 ride.. Love them
I live in a city where every single music store has closed but one Piano store that sells you guessed it pianos. So these demos and others are critical for me to decide on gear.
So glad they are helpful!
I really love Meinl. I have, I think, 14 cymbals? Half of them are crashes. Across all sorts of ranges.
Soundcaster custom, HCS Bronze, Mb8, Byzance, classic Custom brill and dark. Love them
Man, they al sound great! Especially when they are hit hard with the bass drum accent underneath them.
I was very pleasantly surprised by the Pure Alloy.
GREAT VID, I have a couple of the custom dark. (Switching from Sabian). Love the meinl custom dual look and sound. I'm a "professional novice" with a mapex voyeger 5pc. I like to play classic rock from the '70s. Video was very inspiring and educational. Keep it up!
For someone who has been a long time Sabian aficionado, I think this great video and demonstration of Meinl cymbals has me more interested! Do you have any general series and pairing recommendations for someone with a combination of AAX, AA and HH series Sabians? I've typically gone for the bright sounds, but I'm not really certain I want to make the jump to Meinl's brilliant cymbals as I really enjoy some of the vintage and darker, washy sounds, and so far I'm not digging the brilliant sounds of Meinl, such as the classic customs.
great work. Best wishes from germany !i
Awesome video! Thank you for making this, super helpful! And the drums sound wicked.
Not that I need another cymbal, but that Byzance Jazz line sound so good to my ears. No, not a jazz guy, they just sound so good and I want them to meet my 2B sticks.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the kind words!
I had a similar revelation... Thinking the 22" jazz light ride would make an awesome crash ride... maybe with some sizzle to it 🤔
Thank you for this really nice and interesting comparison. It helped me a lot!
In my opinion i think having the classic custom dual crash , the 15 inch dry hi hat , the byzance extta thin hammered crushed ride and thr fx cymbals of your choice is the most versatile choice so you can play most genres
Them extra dry crashes are awesome.
This has taught me that I wanna buy like ten rides. My wife’s gonna love it
These videos are incredible, thanks so much!
Excelente vídeo !
Nunca vi nenhum comparativo tão completo !!!!
Parabéns !!!
Came here for the cymbals, stayed for the classic maple toms.
Great video guys. For me the Byzance Dual are absolutely spot on :)
I always (with every cymbal brand) gravitate towards the jazz lines even though I dont play jazz. They just always have this unique mellow sound which I really like. Also the jazz rides seem to be the only ones where you get a somewhat tamed bell sound. I really dont like when you hit a bell and your ears fall of because its so cutting.
I would have to mix n’ match to find my setup suitable to my ears. Thanks for the vid.
I would never have considered listening to Meinl cymbals if DCP hadn't done a video on them because I only took Zildjian, Sabian and Paiste seriously. Didn't know what I was missing. I especially liked the Traditional, Brillant and Jazz lines but they were all impressive. I'm actually shocked at how good the line sounds. Thanks guys, for always producing such great and informative videos. And the Ludwig kit was incredible. From a sound perspective it's tough to beat their Classic Maple line.
Agreed on all accounts! Meinl has some seriously great cymbals.
The video is great, as usual. Meinl are definitely not my cymbals, I'm more on the classical sounds that's why I'll continue with Sabian and Paiste
My god is that snare drum ever a beast, love it
Byzance traditional are amazing
2:20 I'm Not sure what's more Gorgeous ! Those Drums or Shane's Perfect Dress wear !!! ( Said in a Thick Australian accent ) !! You Guy's Rule !!!
This is SUPER helpful! Thanks for posting this!