The groove, as well as the opening and ending title styles are no creative. You've copied the style of Paiste Cymbal Morph video which has been performed by Josh Devine, drummer of One Direction. It seems that you've played too rushy and too quickly, so I can't pay attention clearly to the differences of all series. Because of this, I am getting tired and dizzy to hear it especially for the part when you hit the crashes several times (riding the crashes) and therefore... all those rides and crashes feel the same.
Better slow down a little bit just like Jared's demo here. Because he's playing pretty clear, I can spot the differences. th-cam.com/video/KlFd-2hEDXw/w-d-xo.html
Time for comparison 0:09 zbt 0:41 S Series 1:13 A 1:45 A Avedis 2:17 A Heavy 2:49 A Custom 3:21 K 3:53 K Light 4:25 K Custom Session 4:57 K Custom Dark 5:29 K Custom Hybrid 6:01 K KEROPE 6:33 K Constantinople
K Zildjian Constantinople all day long, everyday for me. I've been lucky enough to have gathered a nice collection over my lifetime. When I'm gone they'll still be here and hopefully appreciated as much as I do. They are the perfect cymbals to my ears.
Just my opinion, but the older zbt's just suck!!! Maybe the new ones are better...they look more like the ZHT's (which are discontinued). The S series hats and crashes sound pretty good and will pass in most situations. The S ride (that my friend has) has an extremely annoying overtone that simply offends my ears and doesn't blend musically with any genre of music that I play.
with me is the A costume and S series that suits my taste .... i even have the cymbal package with the Zildjian S series with 16,18, 20 and hi-hat .... these are some really good cymbals ... .have also tried the K series ... but it's too dark for me.
@@majastergaard5596 I was not a fan of K Zildjians when I first started drumming, but they've become some of my favorite cymbals over the years. I do dig A Customs, and Zildjian did a great job on making the budget "S Series" sound good.
I just got my Zildjian S series today. They sound great, but the 18 inch crash is just a little dry, but I know it'll grow on me because they sound amazing.
so tired of cymbal demo vids where the player forgets the cymbal sound is the focus and starts jaggin' off all around the kit. Nicely done vid...clean, straight up, you let every cymbal do it's thing! Well done, Tobias...Thanks!!!
Please give me some examples of cheaper/better options. I'm an old dog getting back in after 15 years. Looking at the A Custom cymbal pack, but I have an open mind.
The first 4 sets of K series crashes are the best sounding crashes in the business. It's like the initial harshness of a crash is gone, and you get just the sweet tone of the cymbal. So smooth to the ear.
After reviewing it again my greatest challenge is we get told that not everything which sound crisp and good is good for studio,e.g ZBT's sound great but you'll never see Musicians using it except beginners
True that. They don't at all bruh, they sound like trash cans which I don't want my cymbals to sound because I'll be like why the hell it sounds like that.
Just bought all new set of S series as I have been playing since I was 5 but have no desire to play gigs or professionally. I think all around for the money and sound they are a great setup. I do recommend if you get the set also buy the 14 inch thin crash for more options. Great video and cymbals in my opinion are a drummers preference, there’s no right or wrong just depends on the player. Keep rocking everyone.
I thought the A ride was surprisingly weak. As was the Kerope and K. Zildjian at the end. Lots of good choices there thanks so much for doing this video!
First off, very good video. My preference are Zildjian A's. To me, these have the quintessential sound that all cymbals are judged against. For the most part, Zildjian A's define how great cymbals should sound and is all I've ever used, although have played many others but own nothing other than A's.
Yup a full set of everything A would never be a mistake. For me I like the K hats a little more though. And if you get a chance listen to the 21" K sweet ride or a regular 22" K ride just amazing.
Spoder Man for the crash I like the k custom hybrid but for some reason I like the k high hats better...still can't pick out a ride 14 inch k high hats (used to use a custom 14inch) 18 inch a medium thin crash 16 inch a custom crash 19 inch k custom hybrid crash 20 inch a custom ride
Great comparison - the standard Ks to me are the best. I have a set and they have the perfect balance of articulation and build without the getting out of control.
When I first saw this video, I though that the A customs were my favorite. However, those are my favorite by looks as well (love the brilliant finish) and so I hypothesized that maybe I had unconscious bias towards the sound quality. So, on another day, I listened to them without watching, and looked at what the set was after he played them. Turns out, when I can’t see them (so truly off of sound), K series is definitely my favorite!
Well done Tobias!...this is a fantastic Zildjian demonstration video easily the best that I have seen on line!...as a long, long time, drummer I have to say that nearly all cymbal company demonstration videos are disappointing, including Zildjians', as are most shop demonstration that are posting on line...you have done what almost no one else does in that you have gone through the whole Zildjian series, played standardized grooves on, identical layouts, with almost the same size cymbals amongst the different series... well done you...I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to more of your video demo's...Oh and this is by no means an after thought, but love your playing too!
Thanks a lot Tobias for your time and effort to make this comparison video. Very useful. Some of the series of cymbals are designed for softer music like jazz and blues. Hope you make another video playing jazz so that we can hear the tiny details for which K's, Armand, Constanipole etc are designed for. Much love from India. Keep it up.
they all sound good, obviously, but i'm partial to the new Avedis line. also, the ZBT's and the S Series sound excellent here (i've noticed that about some of the cheaper lines from all the companies- they sound pretty damn good when recorded)
Yeah, i have an old 18" Sabian Xs20 Medium Crash (natural finish) that sounds just amazing recorded! Cymbal companies should start researching what is it that makes a cymbal sound great recorded and start making actual "studio" lines, specifically for recording purpose.
+seitsen in 2002 i recorded an album using a full set of Sabian B8's (i'm a Paiste guy, but that's what i had access to then). they sounded ok at rehearsal, no real issues, just ok. but to this day, they're the best cymbal sound i ever got on tape. and it wasn't some amazing studio, it was an empty supply room at a courier company. so, yeah, there's something about low-mid range cymbals that record like a dream
I clicked on this to see what modern series was close to the Zildjians I have recorded with since '67- before they had any names...!!! Just size and weight- couldn't really tell- but then again- it is more about the sound of the tip of the stick on the ride .
Ehhh the only decent sound s cymbals in my opinion are the trash crashes and the regular 14” hats. The crashes and the rides are meh sounding at least to my ears, they have that annoying clingy high pitched over tones that paiste 2002s have
Sound like Paiste 2002's you say? Hmmm, aren't those the newer version of what John Bonham used? Interesting since his sound is EPIC. They would be a great and less expensive alternative to achieving the John Bonham sound. Hmmm, I'll have to take a closer listen. Thanks for the comparison :-)
Sfm Dude, you’re so wrong. Do you even listen to Led Zeppelin? His cymbals are not dark. No one used dark cymbals when playing loud rock music back in the 60’s and 70’s. Dark cymbals don’t cut enough for such music 😂. But nice try. John Bonham played Giant Beats, which later became the 2002’s. They just recently brought the Giant Beats name back from the grave via popular demand. But they are practically identical. Research it.
@@mujiwaranojerry Yup that is always the problem with darks annd drys. There not good general purpose cymbals. The sound of them is good but it is to quiet for most applications.
@@ryanewalters but I notice my ride it's a k medium custom not a k dark custom. And another bad point it's the sustain it's little bit annoying. But listend the k custom dark sound great.
Those Zildjians sound fantastic..and im a Paiste guy going way back .but originally a Zildjian guy waaay back.. When i was about 13-14..before Paiste really hit the bigtime market in about 1976-77.. But nowadays its hard to choose between the two.. Cymbals for every genre and application
A question for Nils Lesser. Do all the mics have just a simple low cut or there's more to it, like different eq cuts for difference resonances here and there?
I found the K Custom Dark Cymbals to sound the best with the K lights, A Avedis, and the Constantinople cymbals coming in a tie for second place. I really dislike the bell on the Kerope ride though.
Well, it's really not meant to be played like that. It's a jazz cymbal, not a rock cymbal with clanging bell. The bell on those is very small and flat, meant to control the spread and wash of the cymbal. I wish he would have actually played that ride because it really is a nice cymbal when used for what it is made for.
I felt the same and not only about the Keropes... the Cons and the new Avedis also didn't show their true value with that rock beat, but for the comparison purpose that's ok! As the A Heavy in the hands of a jazz guy probably would sound weird too, hehe!
Fantastic comparison video, and very clever what he played as you very quickly got to hear about every variance you want to hear on each cymbal... fantastic ! K darks were my 1st choice...
in the end it comes down to the genre of music you're playing i guess. but the A custom crashes always have stood out to me as sounding the best of any crash on the market. they sound so rich and aggressive. close to perfection.
not at all..........this guy is a basher......and a heavy hitter...that series was designed with the more physical music in mind......so its shining in its preferred environment.....i was thinking the same
ZBT was my first set, they sound like shit and break easily. You get zero range of tones, perhaps this video has a lot of sound compression...and I expect that shitty sound for the price.
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The groove, as well as the opening and ending title styles are no creative. You've copied the style of Paiste Cymbal Morph video which has been performed by Josh Devine, drummer of One Direction. It seems that you've played too rushy and too quickly, so I can't pay attention clearly to the differences of all series. Because of this, I am getting tired and dizzy to hear it especially for the part when you hit the crashes several times (riding the crashes) and therefore... all those rides and crashes feel the same.
Better slow down a little bit just like Jared's demo here. Because he's playing pretty clear, I can spot the differences.
th-cam.com/video/KlFd-2hEDXw/w-d-xo.html
@Tobias Derer Crazy! Thank you much for the video! Very well done and it helps a lot :)
Very nice sir😊😍😇😇 i hope soon i can buy zildian Symbals
@@MichaelSouhoka 4
love the splash sound
Hahahahahah!!!! Me too... or not!!! :DDD
josé perez XD
there is no splash...well there is he just dosent playbit
THATSTHEJOKE
haha well done
Hats off to the crew for switching the cymbals so fast!
it's Zildjian magic bruh
Chicken Drums you mean hi-hats off to the crew. 😏😏
Chicken Drums haha
You’re right
Or uh... hi hats off..... ba dum chhh...... sorry
3:47 a magic crash :O
LOL hhahahahahahahaha
keen eye, brother. WTF??
not only a crash, but a snare aswell
Nice. How did you catch that!? FFS
excellent call bro
Time for comparison
0:09 zbt
0:41 S Series
1:13 A
1:45 A Avedis
2:17 A Heavy
2:49 A Custom
3:21 K
3:53 K Light
4:25 K Custom Session
4:57 K Custom Dark
5:29 K Custom Hybrid
6:01 K KEROPE
6:33 K Constantinople
Last one is K Constantinople
I liked S Series and A Customs.
But K is the best one yet
Thx brotha i didn’t know the last one
Stolen comment
Waited for that splash...
I believe that's a Zilbel actually.
Me too
It's a 6" A Custom splash. Zilbel's do not have an A on them.
you will never know ... muhahaha
Lemme say what that Splash is . Yes , it is an A Custom 6" Splash . You can call it a bell Splash lol .
ZBT
0:08 Hi-Hat
0:24 Crash
0:33 Ride
S
0:40 Hi-Hat
0:56 Crash
1:05 Ride
A
1:12 Hi-Hat
1:28 Crash
1:37 Ride
A Avedis
1:44 Hi-Hat
2:00 Crash
2:09 Ride
A Heavy
2:16 Hi-Hat
2:32 Crash
2:41 Ride
A Custom
2:48 Hi-Hat
3:04 Crash
3:13 Ride
K
3:20 Hi-Hat
3:36 Crash
3:45 Ride
K Light
3:52 Hi-Hat
4:08 Crash
4:17 Ride
K Custom Session
4:24 Hi-Hat
4:40 Crash
4:49 Ride
K Custom Dark
4:56 Hi-Hat
5:12 Crash
5:21 Ride
K Custom Hybrid
5:28 Hi-Hat
5:44 Crash
5:53 Ride
K KEROPE
6:00 Hi-Hat
6:16 Crash
6:25 Ride
K.Zildjian Constantinople
6:32 Hi-Hat
6:48 Crash
6:57 Ride
Thank you for the shortcuts
Am I the only one who absolutely adores that snare sound
It do be BONKin tho. I watched this withmy laptop on my stomach and could feel the punch of it.
Yup, Snare b crackin'.... No snare buzzzzzz. I won't get this groove outta my head for a few days now !
K Zildjian Constantinople all day long, everyday for me. I've been lucky enough to have gathered a nice collection over my lifetime. When I'm gone they'll still be here and hopefully appreciated as much as I do. They are the perfect cymbals to my ears.
3:48 Ghost crash cymbal
Dave Gods hahaha omg
Dave Gods wtf. This must have been recorded at area 51. lol but good catch.
Dave Gods yeah I like the ghost series
Probs Zildjian G series.
Ghost notes
This is absolutely the best comparison video I've seen on these. I wish all the other companies would do them like this
the A custom and S Series stick out for me, I really like them
I have A custom hats and this guy just made love them more,but the S just has the crisp sound
Just my opinion, but the older zbt's just suck!!! Maybe the new ones are better...they look more like the ZHT's (which are discontinued). The S series hats and crashes sound pretty good and will pass in most situations. The S ride (that my friend has) has an extremely annoying overtone that simply offends my ears and doesn't blend musically with any genre of music that I play.
Zac Drake I have all S series cymbals and they’re really good except for the ride, when I try to crash it has a super annoying overtone to it
with me is the A costume and S series that suits my taste .... i even have the cymbal package with the Zildjian S series with 16,18, 20 and hi-hat .... these are some really good cymbals ... .have also tried the K series ... but it's too dark for me.
@@majastergaard5596 I was not a fan of K Zildjians when I first started drumming, but they've become some of my favorite cymbals over the years. I do dig A Customs, and Zildjian did a great job on making the budget "S Series" sound good.
3:48 there goes my trust issues...
I don't get it and I don't care it's a 2 years old comment I need to know 🤣
@@alejandromayorga8614 ghost crash
@@alejandromayorga8614 The sound does not match what he is playing in the video
In my opinion the S series, the K custom session and the K Dark sounded the best
That splash sounds very nice! Thanks alot
I laughed uncontrollably at this comment
@@proxicat123 uncontrollably lol
6:25 tough luck with that belll
It's cool when you want a slight texture change instead of a big ol ping
I just got my Zildjian S series today. They sound great, but the 18 inch crash is just a little dry, but I know it'll grow on me because they sound amazing.
The K Custom Darks and the A Avedis were my favourite sounding ones.
Was waiting for you to hit the splash but...
Its a bell
😂 me too movement
Came here to say the same haha
ElijahJohnson Drums Pretty sure it's a 6 or 7" splash.
hands down best video to watch if you don't know which package to buy.
BalanceWorks absolutely
Yeah, but it makes me wanna buy Paiste.
Just don’t buy zbt cheap ones the ride hurts your teeth when played and the crashes refuse to flex they are to inert and sound and feel dead.
so tired of cymbal demo vids where the player forgets the cymbal sound is the focus and starts jaggin' off all around the kit. Nicely done vid...clean, straight up, you let every cymbal do it's thing! Well done, Tobias...Thanks!!!
If ur a good drummer like this guy, it doesn't matter what brand u play, ur still gonna sound awesome.
And probably broke.
Unless you’re playing those zbts. Jesus those were rough.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 a lot less good than the others in the vid though
dude I'm not sure if he bought all of those but if he did that's like 20,000 dollars
probably was able to borrow them from a larger drum shop
yup.. Zildjian is WAY over prized for what you get.. there are other options that sound as good or better for much less.
Please give me some examples of cheaper/better options. I'm an old dog getting back in after 15 years. Looking at the A Custom cymbal pack, but I have an open mind.
@@Eagles.Fan.Since.Super.Bowl.52 check out Dream Cymbals, they sound a bit like zildjian K's and are a great value for their price!
Anatolian cymbals are worth checking out. They're super affordable but sound pretty decent.
The first 4 sets of K series crashes are the best sounding crashes in the business. It's like the initial harshness of a crash is gone, and you get just the sweet tone of the cymbal. So smooth to the ear.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611old paiste is better. Never forgiving Zildjian for the Z power series…still my favorite brand though
En mi opinión los k dark zildjian 20-18-16-14.son un set muy versátil, para todo ritmo, hermosos armonicos y muy agradables al oído!!😊
After reviewing it again my greatest challenge is we get told that not everything which sound crisp and good is good for studio,e.g ZBT's sound great but you'll never see Musicians using it except beginners
The best comparison I have heard yet! I do love the "ghost" crash at 3:48!
I love the A series and I'm glad you went with the medium thins - What a great sound.
Dude those toms sound amazing
Lol
I have concluded
I’m buying a 20$ ride on amazon. 🥴
my ZBTs don't sound anything like they do in the video
Holy crap, I like the A Heavy cymbals
True that. They don't at all bruh, they sound like trash cans which I don't want my cymbals to sound because I'll be like why the hell it sounds like that.
mike pk666 well there are overhead mics and I'm sure they add compression and eq later on
Andii Rejino That's true :/
The weight of the sticks, the mic placement, and the size and type of room all have an effect on the sound also
Just bought all new set of S series as I have been playing since I was 5 but have no desire to play gigs or professionally. I think all around for the money and sound they are a great setup. I do recommend if you get the set also buy the 14 inch thin crash for more options. Great video and cymbals in my opinion are a drummers preference, there’s no right or wrong just depends on the player. Keep rocking everyone.
Super super helpful, especially for folks who are shopping around and experimenting with nuances of different sounds. Thanks a lot, man.
That’s the perfect drum beat to test each cymbal
I think I like the S series the best. They all sound good though.
I thought the A ride was surprisingly weak. As was the Kerope and K. Zildjian at the end. Lots of good choices there thanks so much for doing this video!
Great video demonstration and excellent consistent playing, perfect for this kind of review.
Love how it’s the same beat from that old Paiste comparison video but shuffled around a tiny bit, love it!
First off, very good video. My preference are Zildjian A's. To me, these have the quintessential sound that all cymbals are judged against. For the most part, Zildjian A's define how great cymbals should sound and is all I've ever used, although have played many others but own nothing other than A's.
Yup a full set of everything A would never be a mistake. For me I like the K hats a little more though. And if you get a chance listen to the 21" K sweet ride or a regular 22" K ride just amazing.
This must've been a lot of work and it was perfectly executed. Thank you for this.
Amen true
What a great comparison video, so well done! I'm going with the K Custom Dark as my favs! 👍
Nice! Would have been nice to play the rides without the bell a bit more!
I love the K custom, A custom and the S series, the S series provides a great sounding cymbal for the price without going to brass and picking bronze
Great video! Thank you. My primary takeaway is that Zildjian makes a whole bunch of great sounding cymbals. I especially liked the K Custom Hybrid.
3:48 theres a crash without him doing it
I forgot to press record on the camera for this particular series and redid the video later :D sorry for that!
That was the new Zildjian Ghost series
Fake
I might actually be in LOVE with the K custom hybrid sound..DON'T tell my wife!
The K custom Hybrid wins for me
Spoder Man for the crash I like the k custom hybrid but for some reason I like the k high hats better...still can't pick out a ride
14 inch k high hats
(used to use a custom 14inch)
18 inch a medium thin crash
16 inch a custom crash
19 inch k custom hybrid crash
20 inch a custom ride
Spoder Man session!!
They are fucking sweet
Spoder Man best crash on the market
K custom hybrids will be on my rack soon 👍😎
great video..been playing zildjian for 30 years and didnt know they had all those series..
I like the S series (has a more crisp sound) and A heavy
Anonymous Commenter a heavy all the way love the bell literally full erect
Great comparison - the standard Ks to me are the best. I have a set and they have the perfect balance of articulation and build without the getting out of control.
When I first saw this video, I though that the A customs were my favorite. However, those are my favorite by looks as well (love the brilliant finish) and so I hypothesized that maybe I had unconscious bias towards the sound quality. So, on another day, I listened to them without watching, and looked at what the set was after he played them. Turns out, when I can’t see them (so truly off of sound), K series is definitely my favorite!
It’s interesting how the appearance of the cymbals can unconsciously alter how I hear the cymbals 😂
K custom session in a close second but the ride isn’t quite as nice
@@WagnerBros Ive got that ride in 18 inch and ive never been completly satisfied. Problem is its too heavy
Well done Tobias!...this is a fantastic Zildjian demonstration video easily the best that I have seen on line!...as a long, long time, drummer I have to say that nearly all cymbal company demonstration videos are disappointing, including Zildjians', as are most shop demonstration that are posting on line...you have done what almost no one else does in that you have gone through the whole Zildjian series, played standardized grooves on, identical layouts, with almost the same size cymbals amongst the different series... well done you...I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to more of your video demo's...Oh and this is by no means an after thought, but love your playing too!
3:48 ghost cymbal
At 3:50 there's a ghost snare hit too haha. Not a ghost note, a full on snare hit, but he didn't hit the snare.
Noah Powell yes there is! That's funny
Why tho?!
I like Zildjian Ghost series
true ahahhahah
Thank you very much for this video. I just pulled the trigger on the K Custom Darks. Awaiting their arrival!!
I purchased the Zildjian S Series cymbals. Dude they are awesome!
I played a set of S series and they are really good cymbals. I prefer them over any K series.
This was so helpful. Thank you so much. It was great to hear such a wide variety from the Zildjian.
Meanwhile, this man's drum style is amazing and literally the perfect way to test zymbals
Best cymbal demo video on TH-cam! Very helpful. Thank you!
2:17 - A Heavy. I Loved It.
gosh I totally agree with u dude
Specially the ride
I used to have a full set of Zildjian "Z" Customs..they were my favorites.
loved the vid man. hard to find shit like this. nice job
Excellent Comparison Video, Thanks! I ordered the Zildjian S Rock Series Cymbal Pack... I think these sound great especially for the money...
My most favorite ones were K Custom Hybrid and A Custom cymbals .
Achintya Sharma exactly
Me too
Thanks a lot Tobias for your time and effort to make this comparison video. Very useful. Some of the series of cymbals are designed for softer music like jazz and blues. Hope you make another video playing jazz so that we can hear the tiny details for which K's, Armand, Constanipole etc are designed for. Much love from India. Keep it up.
Very Very nice!!!!Thank you so much!!!!! Nice to hear the different sets with the same Drum Patter.
Very nice way to compare cymbals!!! Great job!!! Zildjian4Ever!!!:)
thanks =)
Best cymbal comparison I've seen on a TH-cam. Thanks
they all sound good, obviously, but i'm partial to the new Avedis line. also, the ZBT's and the S Series sound excellent here (i've noticed that about some of the cheaper lines from all the companies- they sound pretty damn good when recorded)
Yeah, i have an old 18" Sabian Xs20 Medium Crash (natural finish) that sounds just amazing recorded!
Cymbal companies should start researching what is it that makes a cymbal sound great recorded and start making actual "studio" lines, specifically for recording purpose.
+seitsen in 2002 i recorded an album using a full set of Sabian B8's (i'm a Paiste guy, but that's what i had access to then). they sounded ok at rehearsal, no real issues, just ok. but to this day, they're the best cymbal sound i ever got on tape. and it wasn't some amazing studio, it was an empty supply room at a courier company. so, yeah, there's something about low-mid range cymbals that record like a dream
I have same cymbal...I use it for eighth note patterns just sounds amazing...but a custom is still king! lol
really good comparison, super useful, really explored every aspect of each cymbal, unlike most cymbal comparison videos. thanks
The K series and the S series are the ones that really get my attention. The A heavy were absolute trash.
I liked the K series also. Nice bell on the ride too.
One of the best comparison videos I have seen! Seamless
3:46 magic snare listen carefully
The same groove of paiste comparison
With a few added kicks and snares
that's what happen when u aren't enough crative tho
Let´s call it a simple beat, maybe?!
Tobias Derer what drum kit are you using?
DW SSC
Great Video! I've watched it twice now, and love the comparisons! Thanks for doing this, it was perfect in my opinion!
Thank you, that was an amazing video!
3:48 where did that ghost crash sound come from???
Dude, I just have to say that the video is edited well. Thanks for the comparison.
Love my Zildjian S’s
I really like this guy's set up. It's all so close by and convenient!
I love my regular K's every day more and more, although the Kerope and Constantinople crashes were awesome. The whole Avedis set was very nice too.
Seems like the A lines version of the kcons . Would not mind adding a 17 incher to my kcon set.
Im very thankfull for this video man, been watching this over and over. It helps a great deal!
Minute 3:48...where does the crash sound come from???
You altered the sound Zildjian....WTF?
I forgot to press record on the camera for this particular series and redid the video later :D sorry for that!
I clicked on this to see what modern series was close to the Zildjians I have recorded with since '67- before they had any names...!!! Just size and weight- couldn't really tell- but then again- it is more about the sound of the tip of the stick on the ride .
The S Series sounds amazing!
For the money they are epic!
Ehhh the only decent sound s cymbals in my opinion are the trash crashes and the regular 14” hats. The crashes and the rides are meh sounding at least to my ears, they have that annoying clingy high pitched over tones that paiste 2002s have
Sound like Paiste 2002's you say? Hmmm, aren't those the newer version of what John Bonham used? Interesting since his sound is EPIC. They would be a great and less expensive alternative to achieving the John Bonham sound. Hmmm, I'll have to take a closer listen. Thanks for the comparison :-)
john bonham paiste cymbals were dark and controled the 2002s are not based off of them
Sfm Dude, you’re so wrong. Do you even listen to Led Zeppelin? His cymbals are not dark. No one used dark cymbals when playing loud rock music back in the 60’s and 70’s. Dark cymbals don’t cut enough for such music 😂. But nice try. John Bonham played Giant Beats, which later became the 2002’s. They just recently brought the Giant Beats name back from the grave via popular demand. But they are practically identical. Research it.
K custom dark hats are the best..i just purchased a pair of it recently. Putting it on my set up makes me sound so mature. Fist up zildjian.
K Custom Dark is my favorite.
I like the kustom dark crashes the most, but I didn't hear enough stick definition on the kustom dark ride though.
I bougth a k custom dark ride and im disappointed because its to low in volume. I want to sell and bought another one.
@@mujiwaranojerry Yup that is always the problem with darks annd drys. There not good general purpose cymbals. The sound of them is good but it is to quiet for most applications.
@@ryanewalters but I notice my ride it's a k medium custom not a k dark custom. And another bad point it's the sustain it's little bit annoying. But listend the k custom dark sound great.
You are amazing Dude!!!! I don't want to stop listening....I am swinging in my seat!!!!
I think the A series is the best sounding
Logan Swank me too.
For me A custom
Logan Swank I agree with you. So many to pick from. A Series are very versatile
Which hi-hat did he used in this video in A Cimbals???
yes, A series are all-around cymbals,....you can play any music on them :)
THIS is the snare sound I have been looking for! Perfect!
Really I get surprised by the zbt series. I did considered that it was a ecnomic line, but sounds great.,
That Kerope ride shall haunt my tone dreams forever. Beautiful.
Zildjian K Custom Dark \m/
Those Zildjians sound fantastic..and im a Paiste guy going way back .but originally a Zildjian guy waaay back.. When i was about 13-14..before Paiste really hit the bigtime market in about 1976-77..
But nowadays its hard to choose between the two.. Cymbals for every genre and application
A question for Nils Lesser.
Do all the mics have just a simple low cut or there's more to it, like different eq cuts for difference resonances here and there?
Ma Christianairte, com'è possibile che ti trovo ovunque? Mannaggiattè! (semicit.)
@@favadubs
Eh, ma ci hai messo 4 anni per trovarmi qui :D
Io avoja ad aspettare! :D:D
Perfect cymbal showcase. Great job! K dark for me!
I found the K Custom Dark Cymbals to sound the best with the K lights, A Avedis, and the Constantinople cymbals coming in a tie for second place. I really dislike the bell on the Kerope ride though.
yes that bell sounds like hell
Well, it's really not meant to be played like that. It's a jazz cymbal, not a rock cymbal with clanging bell. The bell on those is very small and flat, meant to control the spread and wash of the cymbal. I wish he would have actually played that ride because it really is a nice cymbal when used for what it is made for.
I felt the same and not only about the Keropes... the Cons and the new Avedis also didn't show their true value with that rock beat, but for the comparison purpose that's ok!
As the A Heavy in the hands of a jazz guy probably would sound weird too, hehe!
Fantastic comparison video, and very clever what he played as you very quickly got to hear about every variance you want to hear on each cymbal... fantastic ! K darks were my 1st choice...
3:47 Wtf when he's playing the ride you can hear a crash being hit when he's not hitting any?
HE IS MATCHING 2 VIDEO CLIPS
in the end it comes down to the genre of music you're playing i guess. but the A custom crashes always have stood out to me as sounding the best of any crash on the market. they sound so rich and aggressive. close to perfection.
is it weird that I really like ZBT ride ?
not at all..........this guy is a basher......and a heavy hitter...that series was designed with the more physical music in mind......so its shining in its preferred environment.....i was thinking the same
ZBT 22 inch rides also feel great to play
Blackie Mesa not my favorite ride but yeah it sounds great. Especially for a cymbal that cheap
Trust me when I say ZBT rides in person sound brighter than the sun. It's bad.
ZBT was my first set, they sound like shit and break easily. You get zero range of tones, perhaps this video has a lot of sound compression...and I expect that shitty sound for the price.
I’m about to get the A custom box set and the A custom 18’’ China. Yay or nay ? Let’s hear it.
S cymbals are so good for the money.