One more thing that I like about daggers is that they are so light that you can bring more than 1 spare dagger for switching purposes and to cover different elemental weaknesses.
Man, I just started playing Outward last week. Thank you for your existence man foreal lol. You’ve been guiding me this whole time, been watching nothing but SheenShots videos, I’ve watched other guides from other people but nahhh man, yours be hitting just right. Thank you for giving me the resources, tools, and knowledge to become a true adventurer✊🏽
I am glad you are enjoying the content. I made it my goal to cover almost the entire game. So almost anything you want to know can be found on this channel. I have had a blast with this game and am glad others are able to do so with much less research lol
Glad to see you learned the value of "Unsuspected Strength" its my fav enchant. Best thing about it is no durability loss, which means you can freely use varnishes and weapon skills. Also all dagger attacks benefit from Patience and Masterpiece weapons buff to skills. Try out Kazite armor set with Assassin enchant, it buffs both damage and impact by 20%. Pearlescent Mail+Hound Mask+Scaled Boots nets you 32% damage bonus if you dont want extra impact.
The Rascal's Verve is another good enchant for this. 4 Protection (free Aegis), 30% Impact Damage (while the Assassin gives 20%), 28% Impact Resistance (more than the Tsar Shield). While the Unsuspected Strength buffs the damage, it does nothing for the impact damage. Iron weapons aren't great when it comes to stagger, so those extra 10% (65% with the Amplified Rage) do make a difference. I'm taking into account all other Iron weapons, while for the dagger - sure, the Assassin works much better.
Another great thing about the vampiric dagger is that it does not suffer from the slow attack speed that most other vampiric weapons do, so it is a great addition to a life drain build without slowing you down.
I didn't think about that but ya great point. Vampiric weapons do suffer just slightly from slow speed. Its not the worst, but not good enough to not notice.
Nice video.. The easiest for me to craft with a good chunk of damage is the manticore dagger with backstab, serpent's parry and opportunistic stab. Manticores are predictable and weak to fire.. Also a good time to get the Zhorn's Backpack. I don't even use the basic slash to save quickslots. One cannon pistol loaded with scraps will cause the 6x damage from Op Stab. Very well rounded for Early, mid and even late game. Also extreme poison is always nice to have. Good tip on the roundel dagger, I did not know that dagger enchant, I thought it only worked for iron weapons such as iron swords, axes etc.
@@SheenShots Already did my research. I got the rondel early with the enchantment... the rest seems lackluster in comparison. And It isn't too long ago sin I did a full physical build (golden knucles). I think I'm gonna go frost or decai build.
About the vampiric dagger, if you use this dagger to strike Ghost Drums or Sky Chimes, then the blast these instruments send out also help replenish your health and it not reduce the durability of the dagger. I always use this combo to deal with Forge Master's minion.
@@zeroknight5594 I haven't tried with the zhorns dagger but I think it's not likely to apply aoe damage with Ghost Drums or Sky Chimes blast. If you can try it, can you tell the result.
Zhorn's dagger with the aoe enchantment makes for a fun build with the Radiant sword. Using totems to debuff enemies to lightning and ethereal damage with the summoned ghost to distract them, while having high barrier and protection. Adding torment and rupture to the table. With the burnt stats recovered from the hex mage passive and Lockwell's revelation for more elemental damage.
That was the masterpiece sword. It is the legacy version of the damascene sword found in Caldera. It boosts the damage of your attack skills including dagger ones... hence why I had it on for the dagger build lol. I think it is the most sword like sword in the game. Looks fantastic.
Wait, for Zhorns dagger with the enchant, would upping physical damage increase the lightning aoe? It would not, correct? Because it’s aoe scales off of the *base* damage?
Manticore dagger was my first dagger. But I found that it has very low durability meaning it rapidly reduces its damage when losing its durability. Actually, I think the vampirism dagger has same problem. Because of such, I often go for porcelain weapons or something simular with lots of durability. You don't wanna sleep after each fight just to fix it. Now I use that ice Shiver. And I pair it with Brand! 😃 Speedster allow you to inflict pain and confusion. Didn't know about electric blast enchantment. But looks amazing! Wonder if opportunist stab increases the base dmg 6 times for a second... might be cool with heroic kingdom passives.
Its a very weird enchant. Needs a lot of testing to find out exactly how to increase its damage in the best way. Looks pretty darn cool though that's for sure!
I love daggers so much, they look so cool with varnishes, the weapon skills are interesting, Serpent Parry in particular, but by god do they suck. Attempted 2p arena bosses with a fairly optimized elemental dagger build and I was hitting like a napkin. It doesn't help that they have really short range so you often miss bigger enemies entirely, and also opportunist stab removes both pain and confusion when you use it so you can't really make a build around it. Sadly they lack the utility of pistols, or the damage/impact of chakrams, and aren't even really comfortable to use, so occupy the same "cool but suboptimal" niche as shields. That being said outside of arena bosses a well placed backstab with the rondel did one-shot some enemies which was hilarious
What was your build? Enchanted Rondel+Masterpiece sword or Maelstrom Blade, with Kazite set (Assassin enchant), Patience skill, elixirs, varnishes, Speedster, Monk, Shaman build worked great for me. 5 sec cd Puncture>Opportunist Stab combo provides huge damage and impact. You need to have several ways of inflicting Pain and Confusion.
@@mazdrpan4099 I focused on lightning damage, using Fulmination enchanted Radiant Wolf Sword and Tunnel's End enchanted Zhorn's, with Spirit of Monsoon enchanted silver chest, Rust Lich helm, and Flux enchanted Scarlet boots with the Gold Lich backpack, or for ice damage I used Brand and Tramontane dagger with Inner Cool enchanted Elite Desert helmet, Spirit of Cierzo enchanted Advernturer armour, and Rust Lich boots. Trees were Shaman, Hex mage, and Rogue. I would usually use cannon pistol with shatter bullet to inflict pain+confuse for opportunist stab setup, but dagger slash was higher dps anyway. I took brains and patience skills, to increase elemental damage and dagger slash damage. Even with the reduced weapon attack damage from patience, Brand consistently did more than dagger slash. With this build I was pretty restricted for ways to inflict pain/confusion unless I used multiple cannon pistols, so I prioritised using Serpent's parry for a free backstab instead. The progression honestly sucked and endgame was subpar compared to literally every other build I've done, but I still might try a phyiscal dagger build like you suggest.
Could you consider making a decay build? I just started a new character and have horror. Axe and pistol I have full corruption and am looking at mercenary cabal and hex mage
I have a few ideas in mind. The big thing is you need to use Cabal Hermit and hex mage at least. Then enchant antique plate armor with spirit of monsoon for really high decay damage bonus. Those are the staples that make it start out good. Scepter of the cruel priest is probably the best decay weapon as well. But there are plenty of decay weapons to choose from.
@@SheenShots thanks so much for the reply I'll have to look into enchanting this is technically my second play through so I don't know much about it. I was currently planning on horror armor until I could get jade lich.
I used to run a dagger user that also used a tuanosaur axe. The idea was to let E bleed and poison do all the work. But this was before the nerf to bleed.
I came to the same conclusion about daggers. Altough I didnt know the glowing dagger was this good. I was really focused on the Astral dagger but I don't remember why.
Astral dagger inflicts some pretty good hexes if I remember correctly. Unfortunately its only useful for hex users so usually those weapons do make it to the list. Expect for astral bow which is easily the best astral weapon.
Shocked the zhorns dagger Is above the manticore dagger. I will say though also the Rondell dagger also has versatility being able to apply multiple effects
Daggers are such an easy way to take enemy health from 100% to 20% in an instant. Their skills are absolutely crazy. But I feel you, the fists can be quite fun lol
Sorry but here (brazil) we have a metallurgical industry that made its name based on "good quality" knifes... and the #2 pronunciation have a eerie resemblance XD Joke apart, good vid, but a shame daggers are a "sidearm" for melee... but maybe insane rogues could not fit outward (unless mod comunity manage to surprise us) Tramontina btw.
@@SheenShots Tramontane means 'over the mountains'. It also is used to describe a cold north wind from the mountains. Did you know all the region names in Aurai are named after a type of wind? The Tramontina thing is pretty funny, too
One more thing that I like about daggers is that they are so light that you can bring more than 1 spare dagger for switching purposes and to cover different elemental weaknesses.
Great point! 4 or 5 daggers can easily be carried around and would offer you the chance to always have a one up on your enemies.
Man, I just started playing Outward last week. Thank you for your existence man foreal lol. You’ve been guiding me this whole time, been watching nothing but SheenShots videos, I’ve watched other guides from other people but nahhh man, yours be hitting just right. Thank you for giving me the resources, tools, and knowledge to become a true adventurer✊🏽
I am glad you are enjoying the content. I made it my goal to cover almost the entire game. So almost anything you want to know can be found on this channel. I have had a blast with this game and am glad others are able to do so with much less research lol
Glad to see you learned the value of "Unsuspected Strength" its my fav enchant. Best thing about it is no durability loss, which means you can freely use varnishes and weapon skills. Also all dagger attacks benefit from Patience and Masterpiece weapons buff to skills. Try out Kazite armor set with Assassin enchant, it buffs both damage and impact by 20%. Pearlescent Mail+Hound Mask+Scaled Boots nets you 32% damage bonus if you dont want extra impact.
The Rascal's Verve is another good enchant for this. 4 Protection (free Aegis), 30% Impact Damage (while the Assassin gives 20%), 28% Impact Resistance (more than the Tsar Shield). While the Unsuspected Strength buffs the damage, it does nothing for the impact damage. Iron weapons aren't great when it comes to stagger, so those extra 10% (65% with the Amplified Rage) do make a difference. I'm taking into account all other Iron weapons, while for the dagger - sure, the Assassin works much better.
Really dig the sum up at the end of this one. Nice!
Awesome glad you liked this one!
Another great thing about the vampiric dagger is that it does not suffer from the slow attack speed that most other vampiric weapons do, so it is a great addition to a life drain build without slowing you down.
Same with the Vampiric Bow, as all bows (even the Tsar Bow) have 1.0 speed.
I didn't think about that but ya great point. Vampiric weapons do suffer just slightly from slow speed. Its not the worst, but not good enough to not notice.
I was litteraly thinking about making a dagger build, never make one
Perfect timing !
Ty for your work !
You bet! Good luck with the build and hopefully you can get a few of these!
Nice video.. The easiest for me to craft with a good chunk of damage is the manticore dagger with backstab, serpent's parry and opportunistic stab. Manticores are predictable and weak to fire.. Also a good time to get the Zhorn's Backpack. I don't even use the basic slash to save quickslots. One cannon pistol loaded with scraps will cause the 6x damage from Op Stab. Very well rounded for Early, mid and even late game. Also extreme poison is always nice to have. Good tip on the roundel dagger, I did not know that dagger enchant, I thought it only worked for iron weapons such as iron swords, axes etc.
Nice! I just started a Shadow Assassin build (mod i highly recommend)
Tnx 4 the tips
This is funny. Today I begun my first daggers playthrough and now you post this 🤣
Now you know what to go for I guess 😂
@@SheenShots Already did my research. I got the rondel early with the enchantment... the rest seems lackluster in comparison. And It isn't too long ago sin I did a full physical build (golden knucles). I think I'm gonna go frost or decai build.
About the vampiric dagger, if you use this dagger to strike Ghost Drums or Sky Chimes, then the blast these instruments send out also help replenish your health and it not reduce the durability of the dagger. I always use this combo to deal with Forge Master's minion.
wow that's cool
That...makes me wanna try the zhorns dagger
@@zeroknight5594 I haven't tried with the zhorns dagger but I think it's not likely to apply aoe damage with Ghost Drums or Sky Chimes blast. If you can try it, can you tell the result.
Had no idea this was a thing. Definitely will be checking it out!
Zhorn's dagger with the aoe enchantment makes for a fun build with the Radiant sword. Using totems to debuff enemies to lightning and ethereal damage with the summoned ghost to distract them, while having high barrier and protection. Adding torment and rupture to the table. With the burnt stats recovered from the hex mage passive and Lockwell's revelation for more elemental damage.
Need to try this out. Love the idea of really high lightning damage!
Or you could duo with Gep's blade and just constantly explode everything. That just...sounds fun :D
I can aldready imagine which one will be number one and I'm hype!
Hopefully there are some on here that are pretty interesting. Had a lot of fun testing out these guys.
@@SheenShots Daggers are really fun to play with. I'm making a dagger build right now and it's just not fair how much damage you can add with them.
I would have put Vigilante Dagger or Red Lady's Dagger on the list for the Impact, Over the Vampiric Dagger
Good point, vigilante dagger is pretty good. I just think the only vampiric weapons I would really use is the bow and the dagger.
wtf i didnt know about the last two WOW sounds so good
I was pretty surprised myself! They are way better than I ever thought!
Have you done a video on what you can get from Caldera with a brand new character? Would be interesting to see what you can loot
I have not. There is some pretty darn good loot you can get. I will check it out!
dont forget to pair daggers with the whirlwind blade because it inflicts confusion
Hey sheen what sword are you using in the video it looks like iron sword but I can't till since I see some red occasionally I'm really curious
That was the masterpiece sword. It is the legacy version of the damascene sword found in Caldera. It boosts the damage of your attack skills including dagger ones... hence why I had it on for the dagger build lol. I think it is the most sword like sword in the game. Looks fantastic.
Wait, for Zhorns dagger with the enchant, would upping physical damage increase the lightning aoe? It would not, correct? Because it’s aoe scales off of the *base* damage?
This is a good point. I kind of missed that when reading. Sounds like boosting lightning damage would be the way to go. Good catch.
Manticore dagger was my first dagger. But I found that it has very low durability meaning it rapidly reduces its damage when losing its durability. Actually, I think the vampirism dagger has same problem. Because of such, I often go for porcelain weapons or something simular with lots of durability. You don't wanna sleep after each fight just to fix it.
Now I use that ice Shiver. And I pair it with Brand! 😃
Speedster allow you to inflict pain and confusion.
Didn't know about electric blast enchantment. But looks amazing!
Wonder if opportunist stab increases the base dmg 6 times for a second... might be cool with heroic kingdom passives.
Its a very weird enchant. Needs a lot of testing to find out exactly how to increase its damage in the best way. Looks pretty darn cool though that's for sure!
I love daggers so much, they look so cool with varnishes, the weapon skills are interesting, Serpent Parry in particular, but by god do they suck. Attempted 2p arena bosses with a fairly optimized elemental dagger build and I was hitting like a napkin. It doesn't help that they have really short range so you often miss bigger enemies entirely, and also opportunist stab removes both pain and confusion when you use it so you can't really make a build around it. Sadly they lack the utility of pistols, or the damage/impact of chakrams, and aren't even really comfortable to use, so occupy the same "cool but suboptimal" niche as shields. That being said outside of arena bosses a well placed backstab with the rondel did one-shot some enemies which was hilarious
What was your build? Enchanted Rondel+Masterpiece sword or Maelstrom Blade, with Kazite set (Assassin enchant), Patience skill, elixirs, varnishes, Speedster, Monk, Shaman build worked great for me. 5 sec cd Puncture>Opportunist Stab combo provides huge damage and impact. You need to have several ways of inflicting Pain and Confusion.
@@mazdrpan4099 I focused on lightning damage, using Fulmination enchanted Radiant Wolf Sword and Tunnel's End enchanted Zhorn's, with Spirit of Monsoon enchanted silver chest, Rust Lich helm, and Flux enchanted Scarlet boots with the Gold Lich backpack, or for ice damage I used Brand and Tramontane dagger with Inner Cool enchanted Elite Desert helmet, Spirit of Cierzo enchanted Advernturer armour, and Rust Lich boots.
Trees were Shaman, Hex mage, and Rogue. I would usually use cannon pistol with shatter bullet to inflict pain+confuse for opportunist stab setup, but dagger slash was higher dps anyway. I took brains and patience skills, to increase elemental damage and dagger slash damage.
Even with the reduced weapon attack damage from patience, Brand consistently did more than dagger slash. With this build I was pretty restricted for ways to inflict pain/confusion unless I used multiple cannon pistols, so I prioritised using Serpent's parry for a free backstab instead. The progression honestly sucked and endgame was subpar compared to literally every other build I've done, but I still might try a phyiscal dagger build like you suggest.
Could you consider making a decay build? I just started a new character and have horror. Axe and pistol I have full corruption and am looking at mercenary cabal and hex mage
I have a few ideas in mind. The big thing is you need to use Cabal Hermit and hex mage at least. Then enchant antique plate armor with spirit of monsoon for really high decay damage bonus. Those are the staples that make it start out good. Scepter of the cruel priest is probably the best decay weapon as well. But there are plenty of decay weapons to choose from.
@@SheenShots thanks so much for the reply I'll have to look into enchanting this is technically my second play through so I don't know much about it. I was currently planning on horror armor until I could get jade lich.
I used to run a dagger user that also used a tuanosaur axe. The idea was to let E bleed and poison do all the work. But this was before the nerf to bleed.
Bleed was nuts. Just used the pierce shot on a bow and everything died not long after. Now a poison and fire combo is ten times stronger.
Rondell: Will never break
*I forgot about that... TIME TO GET A RONDELL*
The durability with that enchant is just awesome. You don't really care about durability until you notice and then its all you care about lol.
I came to the same conclusion about daggers. Altough I didnt know the glowing dagger was this good. I was really focused on the Astral dagger but I don't remember why.
Astral dagger inflicts some pretty good hexes if I remember correctly. Unfortunately its only useful for hex users so usually those weapons do make it to the list. Expect for astral bow which is easily the best astral weapon.
Rondel Dagger is the only dagger that has 8 different enchantments for it.
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Shocked the zhorns dagger Is above the manticore dagger. I will say though also the Rondell dagger also has versatility being able to apply multiple effects
The AoE really adds a lot of damage to Zhorns. I was pretty surprised I liked it more myself as the manticore dagger used to be my favorite.
@SheenShots that's true especially since there's nobody really resistant to lighting. Plus style points
I need to play with the enchants more.
They are worth looking into. Some of them completely change the game and make you way stronger.
Do you Have top 5 pistols?
I just made one not too long ago so here you are!
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You should have seen my face when I found out that the best dagger in the game is the rondel.
A dagger build is one I've never tried but really want to. For me, once you start fisting it's hard to go back lol.
Daggers are such an easy way to take enemy health from 100% to 20% in an instant. Their skills are absolutely crazy. But I feel you, the fists can be quite fun lol
Sorry but here (brazil) we have a metallurgical industry that made its name based on "good quality" knifes... and the #2 pronunciation have a eerie resemblance XD
Joke apart, good vid, but a shame daggers are a "sidearm" for melee... but maybe insane rogues could not fit outward (unless mod comunity manage to surprise us)
Tramontina btw.
Oh interesting. I can't imagine that is much of a coincidence. Really cool to know!
@@SheenShots Tramontane means 'over the mountains'. It also is used to describe a cold north wind from the mountains.
Did you know all the region names in Aurai are named after a type of wind?
The Tramontina thing is pretty funny, too
Not surprising that rondel dagger is number 1. The enchant is just too op lol.
Without the enchant, no one ever use the rondel dagger.
It is crazy good. I had it in 5th spot before testing and then it went straight up to 1 lol
red lady's dagger didnt make the list?
It is very good as well. Probably number 6 in the game actually. It does have some insane impact on it which is a nice benefit.