I’m a DIY’er, and I’ve used it a couple of times. Their premium line has a one-coat coverage guarantee, and it’s not hype. For my living room, I used two gallons, compared with four gallons of a cheaper brand earlier. So while it’s certainly more expensive per gallon, it cost me less in the long run. I didn’t spray it, I rolled & brushed, and I don’t think it runs any more than anything else. It’s fairly thick, so perhaps even less. For a contractor, they may have an interest in something else, from a cost containment and availability perspective. But for me, it just works.
I own multiple rental properties and Behr is always my friend. It does the job and is cheaper than other high end brands. If I am doing same paint color , I can get away with just one coat.
What every contractor wants to know is if the paint covers very well with coat and how expensive or cheap it is. I personally use Berh all the time just because it covers very well with one coat because it has paint and primer in one and the price is the Icing in the cake. I’ll use Berhs premium plus over Sherwin William Emerald even if it was free. What’s the different material price and cuts labor in half
Exactly. Basic business. I didn't start a paint company because I love it, I was just naturally good at it and start up costs are low so I quit my job and went all in to learn business hands on. Knowing your numbers when it comes to man hours is the most important thing. Also morale tends to drop if you're kickin ass at a house to find out it will take two coats instead of being almost done.
I painted a two story stucco exterior in Upland Pa with Behr masonry and stucco paint in Nov 2013 and I liked it very much. Rolled it on. I looked at the house recently and it still looks great. I've also done interiors with Behr paint and running was a problem. Especially with ceiling cut ins on walls.
The Premium Plus Ultra exterior was just rated overall score of 75 (Jan 2020) as #1 exterior by Consumer Reports. Ratings primarily based on appearance at 3-6-9 years. About $188 for 5 gallons of flat at Home Depot (exclusive). Their Premium Plus came in with a rating of 73 and is around $145 for 5 gallons.
I have loved your videos since I found them about a month ago. Now I see what you think of your crew and you're not afraid to say it, I'm even more impressed with you.
Titanium dioxide is the white pigment in all paint that you see before its dyed. Its the key ingredient in primer and it's what covers stains and color on walls and ceilings. Take a look at the MSDS sheets of SW Duration paint and Behr Ultra Premium Plus. 10% more in Behr. You get way more coverage with much fewer coats needed. SW paint rolls nice because it doesn't have as much solids but sags horizontally. Behr is a bit more gloppy and will sometimes run vertically. Home owners will get more done for less with Behr. Pros can paint faster and get the job done earlier because it rolls and sprays better. That's your answer.
Tyson Harris I learned this the hard way by trying all the different paints. If you learn how to roll and spray behr you save a lot of time by covering everything one coat.
BEHR Marquee sags when brushing and rolling, forget back rolling over the sags as it peels the paint back off the wall. Spraying has better results. I am a paint contractor in South Florida with high humidity.
Here's my experience with Behr paints: I built my house 20 years ago - a pretty large, two-story home - and I used the top-rated Behr Paint of the day, in a range of colors throughout. It has held up unbelievably well! Hasn't faded, cleans easily. Now, recently, I wanted to touch up some places in my bathroom that had gotten dinged up. I still happened to have a can of that two-decade old paint in a can in my garage (which gets very hot and very cold). Opened it up and it was dried to a sludge. I got some water and stirred it to hydrate it. But it had debris in it that was unstrainable. So, I got me a small pieced of wood and got the cleanest portion I could find - which was very watery and thin, and kept I kept painting it onto a piece of wood, intermittently drying it with a dryer, and doing multiple layers until I had a solid color. Took that small sample to Home Depot, they scanned it and it perfectly matched my 20-year-old paint on the wall - saving me an entire paint job, as the rest on the wall looks very good. I'm sold on Behr paint! And as Behr has remained a top-rated brand, and as the chemistry behind paints has greatly improved over the last 20 years, I can only imagine how good Behr paints are now!
I've been using Behr paint for years, outside and in. I'm sold on its quality and the service I get in the store. That said, Dunne Edwards is excellent too.
1. First reason I prefer Bher. A) Recently visited Sherwin-Williams store and purchased three quarts of three different colors of Latitude acrylic paint $50.00. (They won't sell you anything smaller than a quart😩) for my stucco home painting project after the Sherwin-Williams representative told me the A-100 (100 percent acrylic paint) that I came there to purchase was "a cheap paint that won't have a good result at $45 a gallon!" (On sale for $38)☹️🤔 ( Then why do they sell it?) The representative told me to use their $70 per gallon interior exterior paint for my stucco home project! (which is also not made for rough stucco exteriors or hairline cracks and is not 100 percent acrylic nor is it a specialty masonry stucco waterproofing paint). Those were the two choices that I had in mind. A high build masonry waterproofing paint and a 100% acrylic paint for my stucco.🤔 B) I asked them if they have a high build thick waterproofing paint for masonry and stucco that would compare with the Bher Specialty high build waterproofing paint for masonry and stucco with hairline cracks? They said no, there is no Sherwin-Williams paint that is designed to help stucco with hairline cracks.😡 They told me to use a $50 per gallon primer underneath the $70 per gallon interior exterior paint. 😠They also do not have any paint that includes a primer although I do believe that that is just a selling gimmick. 🤔 C) Went to Home Depot purchased five small jars (5 colors ) of Behr Ultra premium paint for $23.👍😁 (First reason I prefer Bher. ) Also found their Bher Specialty Elastomeric high build waterproofing paint for Masonry and stucco which is supposed to work well on stucco with hairline cracks etc!😁 C) Next I watched Sherwin-Williams videos related to waterproof coatings used by a builder on commercial high-rises in Daytona Beach Florida! This is what I learned. A)after significant concrete stucco repair. The Sherwin-Williams expert on the project had the contractor use LEXON conditioner on top of all existing surfaces and SW MODAC smooth primer after all areas of the stucco repairs with high PH and finish all those surfaces with SW Super paint satin finish ACRYLIC on everything. ( I knew I was right) They also used SW surecrete flexible waterproofing for the concrete balconies after a cathodic system was used by the builder ( cathodes are placed in the concrete where rusting rebar is a problem, it's known to slow down the breakdown of rebar in concrete especially on oceanfront property. It's a real problem here in Florida with waterfront or oceanfront properties.) D) the Sherwin-Williams store employees made me feel like I didn't know what I was talking about when in fact I did know exactly what I was needing and looking for to do my project and I was willing to purchase the best product for the job. Just because something is $70 or more per gallon doesn't mean it's the right product for the job! If the Sherwin-Williams employees don't know how to help me get what I want and need they should have shut up and stopped wasting my time rather than try to sell me some high-end paint for no apparent reason. And that's why I prefer Bher! 😁 A) My time has value B) they should have just shut up and given me the 100% acrylic paint samples which by the way is on sale at Sherwin-Williams right now. D) I contacted another Sherwin-Williams store. I got another moron on the phone. I called back an hour later and got a great knowledgeable guy who explained. You can't get super paint anymore. But they do have the LOXON XP waterproofing paint that I discovered watching videos by pros like you on TH-cam. 💕They have it in a flat they don't have the satin in stock but they can get it. They also don't have some of the other products that I listed above from the SW Daytona project video like Super paint. They can't get it anymore. They do have some surecrete products. He shared with me they haven't been able to get multiple products for many many months not necessarily related to covid and now because of supply chain issues they have no idea when they will be able to get some of those items. So, it's either SW LOXON XP waterproofing paint as my first coat and A-100 acrylic as my second coat unless someone advises me otherwise. Or the masonry specialty paint from Bher as my first coat and 100% acrylic paint from Bher as my second. However I'm still PO'd at the rotten customer service I received at Sherwin-Williams near my home in Sebastian Florida. Because I actually am not a paint expert and that's all they do is sell paint. I'm seriously wondering if I can't just color the masonry waterproofing paint in a satin and call it a day? Anyway home Depot makes it easier for people like me. Thank God for guys like you put so much of their knowledge online for others in their trade as well as for homeowners like me. Thank you for your valuable time and your expertise 🥰💕. I'm just really concerned about getting the right products. The painting contractor I am planning on using doesn't give any advice. Other than he prefer Sherwin-Williams. I'm worried about fading since I've seen a lot of houses fade in my area and also they don't fade evenly. I'm worried about some chalky spots on the front of my house which only occurred after someone pressure cleaned with chlorine. There's no Chalky residue anywhere else but in front. It wasn't there before the guy pressure washed the front of my house and my garage. Now my garage door and the front of my house is chalky. I'd really appreciate your opinion and so far as what should I put on top of the waterproofing paint or should I just color the waterproofing paint and use two coats of it? Or would that be a mistake because the paint is so thick? 😭 Anyway. It would be so nice if the painter made these decisions or helped me make these decisions and more fun if all I had to worry about was the colors 😁
I have painted my own houses for 35 years now so interesting your point about contractor vs DIYer. Behr does market to DIYers and prices are not cheap but manageable. Paint stores like SW and PPG will charge a DIYer full price (with some sales here and there but who can time that.....) So due to small quantities I get charged $10/gal more, paint stores cater to pros first for obvious reasons. So only high vol. contractors such as yourself enjoy the privilege of wholesale/volume discounts. So makes sense DIYers are going to end up buying Behr but over the years all paint has gotten so much better and I just finished spraying 10 gallons Ultra satin on my exterior, very nice to spray, had some runs with the brush!! May have to try SW next project though thanks for the vlog I learn something new every time I watch.
I’m not sure how old this video is but i would like to see you look back at this job in 2-3 years. I used Behr on a complete exterior paint job. After a few years the paint showed a chalky film coat. Had to clean entire service with a pressure wash and then clean with denatured alcohol. Sprayed Sherwin Williams Super Paint, looks great three years later.
My house is painted with this paint. Live in Louisiana. Had house painted 10 years ago. No chalking...perfect still. Due to our climate I pressure washed and looks brand new...the only part that had to be sanded and painted were the eaves. My painter never complained about this paint. He prefers Benjamin Moore.
Been using Behr interior paint for the last 15 years, never once had an issue and the paint still looks great. Now their deck paint, that stuff didn't last long at all. it hasn't been 3 years later and it looks awful and in desperate need of a new coat.
I've been painting for almost 30 years. I really like the Behr marquee and Behr Ultra. I've had good luck with spraying, cutting and rolling those products. Both cover very well rolling. Can take two coats cutting with a brush over yellows etc.
My go to is porter by ppg, it's great but more importantly my local paint is great to me. Behr I've found to work well, our local HD gives contractor discounts so it's pretty reasonable
I work for Home Depot which sells Behr exclusively.. and I know we do in fact offer our contractors a discount for paint purchases.. also you might want to try the Marquee paint from Behr it's is much thicker and drys really fast...
I've used Behr quite a few times it sprays good dries hard I like that, it doesn't roll on good or brush well acts like snot when pulling out of the bucket. I prefer Sherwin Williams and Dunn Edwards over it as far as easier to use but it does seem to dry hard and hold up out in here in so cal , your videos make me want to move to a cooler climate get out of this heat looks beautiful there
The Big Box DOES give discounts to contractors and painters. It’s called ProXtra, and you can get up to a20% discount on Behr and Kilz. They will also do free next day delivery to your job site when you order 24 gallons or more. They also store your color information you use for each job. If you like SW ProMar, then you might want to try the Behr Pro line. Consistently out performs ProMar and with ProXtra discount it’s less expensive as well.
I love Behr Ultra Premium for interior painting... Covers well... For exterior I've been using Valspar Professional with Kilz 2 primer... Great video and review as always I wouldn't use Behr or hire anyone to use it based on your review for exterior... Honest reviews by honest workers who do this day in and day out! Keep up the videos!
I used Behr Ultra satin on my homes exterior ( Tucson AZ ) 17yrs ago, and it’s still looks like new and has retained its color very well. Just painted the full interior - primered all walls white - then applied Sherwin Williams Emerald - every single color required 2 coats. Behr has always covered in 1 coat.
I used Bear paint for many years. I thought it was great. Then I tried a good paint like Benjamin More or Sherwin Williams. There's no comparison. I've seen Bear paint that was so thick you could stand a five-gallon stir stick in a one-gallon can and it would stand straight up. My helper asked me if it was spoiled when he opened the can. It was close to as thick as pudding. I find the trim paints, (semi-gloss or gloss) needs to be thinned a bit or it leaves brush lines down to the old paint. So you then must paint it again to cover. I personally use Benjamin More Paints. For trim, doors, handrails, and shelves. I only use Benjamin More Advance Interior Waterborne paint. I love that stuff. It's alkyd like oil paint but cleans up with water. There's no blocking and it looks hard like oil paints when dried. without the yellowing! It goes on a bit more like oils. You can't just slap it on thick like latex paints, or it will run or sag as oil does. There's a sixteen-hour recoat time, but I think it's worth it. You can see the difference when it dries. I tend to work alone most of the time so I can usually only get one coat on the trim in a day anyway.
The reason why it runs is because it has high amounts of titanium dioxide, which is a heavy content, that's why it covers so well. It's also the most expensive part of any paint. For those that don't know, titanium dioxide is the replacement of lead paint. I use to get runs as well but I have mastered cutting, rolling, and spraying with this paint. No drips, no skips, no sags. I roll and cut in heavy, you have to be one with the paint ;) lol
I just painted the exterior of my house with this paint. I used a Harbor Freight pressure pot and air spray gun attached to long hoses. I had to thin the paint a bit with water for it to spray better. I have no complaints at all. Very good coverage. I really like how fast it dries. I'll try something else next time, if I'm still kicking.
I have a client that insisted on using this on the interior of the home. The home was stripped of all carpet and flooring which made it easy to spray. I found that just like it did several years ago, it also runs when Spraying as well as brush and roll. The interior spray also flashes very easy Unfortunately I am not a fan
Use Marquee, it's excellent, hands down their flat interior paint is worth the money and it helps if you have a %20 pro discount, ($34/gallon flat). I've used their Marquee flat/matte paint and love it because it is has great coverage, is easy to clean, durable and a great value. Marquee does smell though and it is the only drawback and some home owners just can't deal with it. The biggest issue I have with HD is that they only deliver on very large orders, something like 50+ gallons ? Their paint department is clueless and rarely do you find someone who knows what their talking about. They just don't carry a good selection of items for painting and they run out of things all the time because they don't stock for a commercial painter. I simply call my SW store and the same day or next day I have my paint and supplies either delivered to my job site or my home. The pricing is just slightly more expensive than HD but the convenience and time savings that my SW store provides me can't be measured.
All paint is made by one of the big four paint companies under various brand names: 1) PPG They bought Akzo-Nobel paints US division which included the brands Pittsburg, Glidden, Olympic, Flood, Sikkens, Devoe, Duluxe, and Walmart ColorPlace, WeatherBeater Sears. Ralph Lauren, Martha Stewart. 2) Sherwinn-Williams Owns the brands Valspar, Duron, Frazee, MAB, Minwax, Krylon, Mautz, Purdy, Bestt Liebco, Thompson’s WaterSeal, H&C, Pratt & Lambert, Martin-Senour and Dutch Boy, HGTV paint, Clark+Kensington and Ace Paint. 3) Masco Owns Masterchem which makes Kilz and Behr 4) Benjamin Moore
I like Behr paint I use the marquee it is more expensive but I like that I can do one coat and it is good, I am lazy, I noticed that the Behr premium does not stick as good and you must do a second coat.
I use behr paint the most on my jobs and never came across it running as its thick paint. Never seen thin or runny behr paint in all my years. Actuall sometimes i find it to thick on some jobs. Maybe its made different in your area as im from canada. Great video tho. Keep up the great videos.
That's because of the rheology modifiers Behr uses. It not necessarily a sign of good paint. They focus on the DIY end user versus contractors who know how to work with a variety of finishes. Some of the most garbage paint doesn't run. You could put a paint stick in it and it wouldn't fall over. Behr isn't bad, it's just not formulated regionally, like SW, Rodda, KM, DE, Vista, etc. You can get a equal or better product for less from the wholesale paint suppliers if you negotiate with a rep and use a decent amount of paint. I was a rep for KM and eventually sold ICI products against Behr in Home Centers.
I like the honesty in this video. One thing you like and one thing you don't like is the best question. It reminds me of Army after-action reviews: What when well? What didn't go well? ...
I'll say this, I got Marquee Matte Paint (COLOR: Cracked Pepper), and I ended up having paint strokes on my wall. I used 2 gallons. I called in thinking I was only filing a complaint, and they sent me TWO new gallons to repair it... that's like $100 of replaced paint. No hassle, nothing, I didnt even have to ask. They were wonderful.
Behr paint has changed its chemistry over the years. pros: it covers good. It's not as pungent as it used to be. The Marquee brand is worth EVERY penny & truly covers with 1 coat. very little to no holiday on 1 coat. The hi-glossbis very durable and finishes nice. The ceiling paint thick and bright. It really covers well with a bright true white. 11 years ago I did not like Behr paint at all. cons: if u leave it in a paint pan it develops a skin. The brushing capabilities for cutting or trimming is tough though. I tend to mix a little water when brushing baseboards.
during the past two years I have used Behr exterior and it is now faded and cracked/peeling.... .>behr sucks. Right now I just don't know what to do... which paint to go with.
I’ve painted over all of my contractor grade neutral non-color lifeless paint using BEHR. Won’t use anything else. Searching for BEHR Southwest color palettes now.
I used Behr paint in my kitchen about 12 years ago and the living and dinning room about 8 years ago. It hasn't chipped or anything. Goes on smooth and even.
I used Behr about 20 years ago and it was literally like painting with water, they have definitely gotten much better over the years , but they do still need some improvements
Their midline is thick imo. I was actually really annoyed with SW quality, comparably, when I painted my whole house, you pay the premium for SW and it's supposed to be this great paint definitely not impressed. Even with contractor discounts, from SW, it would have been cheaper to grab Behr from HDepot.
Two of the most important qualities to the customer are overall appearance (colors and sheen) and durability. I’ve seen high priced new neighborhoods where all the houses needed repainting within 4 years.
You can get a discount on paint at HD. Ask about it at the pro desk. If you ever get a chance, I would like your opinion on the Kilz Pro. Particularly the dead flat. I have only used it in demos while working the paint desk at HD and that was several years ago.
We used behr ultra recently on a job. I had never used it but another hand on the job said this is all he used on his other jobs and had high compliments for it. I noticed I had to find that magical place where I didn’t load my brush too much and almost dry brush it in the end because it ran so much. I ended up following behind the hands paint areas also cleaning up his runs. It does seem like it would be great for spraying but you can’t just slap it around.
I just finished an entire repaint inside and out. I had more runs than ever before on the trim inside and found the rolled coverage on the facias to be less than desired. The rest of the coverage turned out great.
BEHR is very runny , as a professional painter I say it sucks . I've been called to homes many various times to fix a mess from a homeowner . Often a homeowner will roll out a room and say wow it looks great to return to look at it in an hour to find out the paint sagged . Sucks because you can't really sand fresh paint , I usually just skim coat over it with joint compound to fix it .
My company uses dunn edwards and sherwin williams paint exclusively but once in a while we work with other brands if the customer has it for us. So from time to time we use behr paint from home depot. It is by far the best paint I have worked with. Smooth and creamy. Glides well and covers like a bandit. We only ever used it for interior though.
I used Behr for our family room and rolled it, probably back 2013.Considering the ceiling was already white and the wall an off white, I remember it didn't seem to cover as well and had to go over it after the 2nd coat. Using SW now to do the rest of the 1st floor and the kitchen cabinets this very moment :) Typing with paint speckled on my hands lol
I'm just a DIY'er but have sprayed enough behr paint to know that I don't like it. I just sprayed my trim and wainscotting with SW Emerald trim enamel. It's expensive but I loved the way it layed down. 2 cents
So basically it’s good to spray and use on the house body but I would use a different product to trim everything out. I’ve used the behr interior with the primer already in it on a couple bedrooms..I was impressed with the coverage.
Mainly what I look for isn't how many shortcuts I can take, but how long it lasts. My favourite product from Behr is their interior/exterior super white (you can tint it). We use it on our yachts, as well ashouses, and on interior trim that normally would take oil paint.
Strange that you say the big box stores don’t cater to contractors. I was helping paint my Aunts house last week and ran low on paint, our local Home Depot has a “Behr Pro” Rep and he gave me his card with a direct line, on my way to the Home Depot I called in with what I needed, they charged my CC over the phone, and they brought the bucket outside and threw it in my truck. I’m not a contractor but I felt that was awesome service.
I applied two coats of Behr Ceiling White Flat paint in a kitchen/dining room/living room (all one room - 45'x35') and had a very difficult time hiding roller marks using a Wooster 3/8" nap polyester roller cover and dipping straight out of a clean 5 gallon bucket with a roller screen. It was like I was using an "eggshell" sheen. After reading numerous complaints online about others having the same issues, I switched to their i300 line of Dead Flat white. I re-rolled the kitchen/dining room area one evening, and came back the next to roll the living room. There is a definite difference between the two areas. Kitchen/ dining was more creamy white, and the living room was a bluer white. I thought maybe different drying temperatures. I bought another 5 gallon pail to re-roll the whole area in one shot and still have issues. When did "flat" paint become "not flat" paint? When Behr says "superior touch-up" and uniformity, I say BS. As soon as you would try and do a touch up, you'd see it. This stuff does not blend and is NOT flat. FYI~ General contractor for over 35 years, so yes, I've painted before.
I hear this alot but I use Behr with no issues. I tried SW Duration and hated it so much because it showed every brush stroke on a block home with knockdown, so I used it as a first coat and then second coat with Behr, This was 16 years ago in south Florida, and it still looks great, Not sure why this only happens to me with SW paint. Everyone seems to like SW.
I am a DIY'er and have used a lot of Behr in the past. I tried Sherwin Williams Infinity on my latest project, and love it. It was a few dollars more than Behr, but true one coat coverage, no runs, and it sprays, brushes and rolls well in my opinion. No more Behr for me.
@@williamsealy8781 Not their solo line, new drywall it was primer + 3 coats. Awful product and it had this speckling I cannot describe - almost like the paint split. I used Dulux upstairs instead now I have 10 gallons I don't want to use haha ;x Not to mention Dulux and Behr are like half the cost of SW
I've used Berh.....I loved it.....I don't use sprayers...I simply use rollers....and brush.....I love the Whiz roller to make all my cut inz around windows....and soffits......without spending hours putting up plastic and tape......no overstay on the neighbors cars and house....in Kansas its always windy....love Berh......I have houses I painted 7 years ago with satin sheen....I drive by and the house still looks good...
Bahahaha yeah I'm from Chicago the Midwest is way too windy, moved to Los Angeles where it's never windy so every time I visit back home I'm squinting cuase of the wind and I feel like I'm mad doggin everyone, but painting outdoors in the Midwest is brutal
I've never had any of these issues. That basic flat matte exterior always touches up great! The new interior scuff defense is just as good as super paint, it is thick I put some flotrol in it. Flow like butter
I'm not a big fan of behr and only use it by request, but if you look at CR's criteria (Hiding, surface smoothness, Gloss change after scrubbing, staining, cleanability, mildew resistance, fade resistance). Those are mostly "in service" characteristics. If they were to weigh those factors against ease of application it would probably end up lower on the list. In my experience it runs too much and tends to contract around surface imperfections rather than flowing over them so the end result is less than ideal, especially on any trim. That said I can't question it's durability because I've never done such tests myself, and if that is the customers top priority it seems like a top choice.
As an avid DIY homeowner I’ve tried paint from the big box stores and noticed the exact things you mentioned in this video. Now I prefer to purchase paint at SW stores or the like. I do like primers sold at big box stores but they are not Behr or Valspar.
I used Behr Deckover for a period of time... I liked it but found it's MUCH better for rolling then brushing. My Sherwin Williams rep turned me onto Super Deck and I swear by it! I could really use some better guys on my crew, looks like yours are fantastic! If any one of them ever move to Maryland, please have them reach out to me.
andrew beaudry. Yes sir, it does tend to peel dependant on your climate, dry time in between coats, if the deck is completely dry.... Currently I use something called Deck&Dock. Its pretty amazing stuff, almost a thick as pudding. They call it a deck restorant, elastomeric paint. Its formulated to bridge and fill cracks. Beats the hell out of DeckOver.
I agree with the tradesmen in the video. It runs easily so you have to watch it. As far as coverage it is one of the better paints out there. However, across the board I find Behr to be only for the DIYer and not pro. Advice to any painter diy or pro. DO NOT USE BEHR CEILING PAINT. It is the worst shit ever. Lap marks everywhere regardless of keep wet edge. Just awful. CHB from SW is best ceiling paint on the market imho. Thanks for the videos Chris.
I've used Behr's paint several times, if customer wants it, it is not bad. , I found it worked out ok, flowed ok, but I agree on the discount. Home Depot don't cater to paint contractors with much discount, and If I was on a large commercial job and needed 200 gal.'s, it would be a nightmare depending on them. I prefer Porter Paint, PPG. Good video again, well done. JohnG
I think Behr's exterior paint was pretty OK (last used in 2015) rolled and brushed smooth. The biggest problem I see with it from a DIY vs pro painter perspective (the exterior was less bad in this way, but the interior was really bad...) is basically it doesn't level out well at all, and roller/brush marks just stay there because it's made to dry quick, and be "easy to apply" by poking paint/using a cheapo brush, so it sacrifices the ability to level for that. The interior ultra I remember approx 2012 being good as a beginner painter, but then I used some again in 2015 and it was just absolutely horrendous, and I think it was a formula change, and even the Behr shill Jack Pauhl admitted to a formula change and stopped using it around then, too. Premium Plus I used about the same time frame was OK and oddly better than the Ultra, and basically handled similar to Promar 200, etc.
Oh, one Behr paint I do like as an exception is actually Behr alkyd, though. There's obviously better stuff on the market, but it's not bad at all. It levels super well, and dries hard on primed surfaces. Just it has an 8-12 hour dry time. But for what it is, it's not bad at all, especially for $35 at HD. Just adhesion is only acceptable, not great, as in, it still won't go over poly/varnish with no primer, but again, for what it is, not bad at all.
Thanks for the honest review. It sounds like the paint comes set up to spray and be applied in thinner coats. Other folks who use the Behr paint a lot might think the Sherwin Williams paints you are used to as being too thick.
I have been using Behr Premium Plus paint for over 20 years and it does a great job for me. A long time ago the exterior paint had issues with fading, but it doesn't do it now. I know Consumer Reports has it listed as the best paint you can buy. The Behr Premium Plus rates higher than their Marquee brand, so be sure to use it. I also used Behr Premium wood stain on my treehouse and it has held up great so far. Just don't buy your paint brushes at Home Depot, BigLots has high quality paint brushes that cost about 80% less.
I like your good and bad approach towards the review. I actually charge an addition few for using these box store paints. That is too cover the additional cost of protecting from drops with paper plastic and run issues. I don't have today with my supplier. Insert plug for spectrum paint. :)
Your right about home Depot not catering to contractors, oh I forgot they give you special parking right outside the door!! Yepe. They did have somewhat of discount in past but now eliminated that so they could care less about contractors. So I go to Sherwin Williams or PPG for all my paint.
Rick Washek You don’t know what you’re talking about... go see how your SW holds up after a year. Duration got named as one of the worst products of the 2000s. SW constantly rates on the bottom end of consumers report whereas Behr is rated #1 in most categories followed by Benjamin Moore.
you can not go by those reports, they reports are who pays the most and who pays for more advertising...sw and BM or far far superior the any of the behr paints
I've painted for 30 years and Behr is the best paint period. I've used all brands for 25 years and nobody can compete with Behr. Don't let SW or Ben Moore fool you with the shiny labels and high price tags. Behr doesn't pay Home Depot. SW is geared for retail and apartment painters in my opinion.
The pro painters are all bribed by Benjamin Moore and Sherwin Williams, Behr paint is outstanding, just did my whole basement, walls (eggshell) doors & trim in semi-gloss, very good paint, used the Behr Dynasty
Behr is great and it does run but your spot on when you said it's for the do it yourself.....the price is a lot cheaper too than sherwin Williams....sherwin overpriced price....I got behr for $35/ gallon and sherwin Williams was charging me $67/ gallon
Funny your guys said the Behr paint was too thin because every time I've used it before it seems really gummy and thick, and I like paints that are easier to put up on walls and are a little thinner. It's why I like Sherwin Williams so much like you, Chris!
I just started to use SW paint , only because I watched a video a couple weeks back that said you should buy the best paint you can afford and I noticed the contractors in my area also use this brand . So I bought a quart of SW middle grade and personally found its coverage is superior to anything I have ever used and it has a lifetime warranty , so I`m kinda sold on its quality . I will use Glidden , Olympic , or Behr on projects that are not so showy though .
It is a fantastic paint. Pretty much top of the line. But what has problems is the price the customer sees it and kind of scares them away is why I always guarantee valspar.
@@Idahopainter Hey Chris,do you guys get Parra paint in the States?I love their semi gloss interior for trim.I know you guys spray most trim but when brushing that Parra glides so nice and lays down like no other. (IMO)
In Delaware you get a 20% contractor discount at home depot 5 galls exterior satin for $130...for the money it's a great deal...Now when it comes to preference of course I would prefer resilience And we all know you're getting that for free chris...😂
try benmoore ultra spec 500. a lot better paint,and has color lock tech, meaning if you have a bright red, it will not turn pink when the sun bleaches out the color.
ive been a painter for about 10 years now... i try to avoid behr at all costs :p its just not the same quality as a paint from a paint store, ben moore, sherwin williams, dulux.. some costumers really want behr or theyll buy the paint themselves and supply us with behr.. but for the most part we try avoiding it.. had an issue with their paint once too, bought 10 gallons and the paint wasn't sticking, luckily when we called them they actually refunded us on the 10 gallons, we only used 2.. 1 was giving us issues so we opened another to see if it was just mixed poorly.. but the 2nd one gave the same issues, it wouldnt cover and was runny and jsut a nightmare. and they refunded the 2 we opened and used as well.
Curious 3 years later how the paint job lasted. I live in an area HD is my only option for paint. Behr is the best they have. I want this to last at least 8 years on older wood siding with peeling. I called behr they told me i didn’t have to clean it but I chipped , sanded and I”m power washing today. They have a life time warranty so how bad can it be?
I just used 4 gallons of Behr. 2 of the Behr Ceiling paint and 2 of the Marquee. I have to say the Marquee does look good but it is not a one coat paint. You really need to have enough paint and roll it slowly in order to be one coat but it just doesn't seem like enough coverage over certain walls with one coat. The Marquee does seem thicker than other paints, it takes a little longer to dry too but for the price you pay for it's about the same price as Super Paint from SW which rolls better and have less splatter. As for the Behr ceiling paint, it is garbage. Way too much drips and splatters compared to SW Eminence which really rolls easily without drips. So I can't say Behr stuff is great, they are ok if you have a HD 10% coupon and get it cheap. You get what you paid for.
FYI....The Home Depot is the only company that sells Behr. Behr is exceptionally priced well...the top of the line Marquee retails for $42.....if you have an account you can get 10%, 15%, and 20% off of that. SW top of the line Emerald costs $75 retail..you will need a 45% discount to be in the same price range as Behr on the shelf. Consumer reports after doing 22 separate tests on all paints available in North America, has deemed Behr paints rated #1, #2, and #3...and Behr has had that standing going on 12 years now. Sherwin Williams doesn’t even fall in the top 10. The Home Depot and Behr both deliver paint. They have services in place at the paint counter as well as down at the pro desk to keep track of all jobs and colors used. There is not one thing a SW does that The Home Depot doesn’t do. Rollout the products next to each other and its a black and white difference. The tests that Consumer Reports does is consistent with all things that matter to both a diy’er and also a pro. Literally everything I just mentioned in this comment is verifiable, recorded, and factual. No opinions.....you have to test it, not just take someone’s word for it.
you are comparing apples to peanuts, benjamin moore ultra spex exterior and interior is the same price as the marquee but a much better paint, you comparing their top line to their middle line in pricing,,and consumer reports are not real reports, so you can not go by them, ask people who have painted for years and the real quality
and there is no pro at home depot at paint dept, they took a 2 hour course now they are experts in paint, i played stupid one day, asked them i was painting my kitchen cabinets that had oil varvish, they told me i didnt need to prime and just paint them with there primer in one paint, which will not stick, so i said ohh primer and paint, i replaced all the sheerock there as well so i do not need to prime, they said no i didnt need to prime, because their paint have primer in it,,,,again will bubble and not adhere to new drywall and crack fill..
Rodney Monk I work at a Home Depot paint desk full time. SW contractors come in all the time to buy Behr because Behr is as good and better than SW and priced at less than half the cost
I use both but I will never ask a Home Depot paint department mixer for advice. Wolf, I had a girl tell me the same thing. You want an honest attempt getting a good color match and a person that can make the judgement call for color adjustments, go the Sherwin Williams. They've kept paint for a good half day or more tweaking it for me to get as close as humanly possible. I use Marquee for interior walls unless I'm going for a "true" flat sheen. Marquee doesn't roll out too well and cut in is bit mucky but I try to work it quick. I use Super Paint on exteriors and Pro Classic for trim. I use e600 for clients with rentals that want to just dress it up. They both have their advantages, but I get annoyed by Behr representatives telling me how much better their paint is because of spec sheets, not mentioning the quality of the ingredients . I can't sit there and argue with someone that is telling me their spec sheet says it's better while my experience is wrong especially when they are ex painters with way less total years of experience. Overall, Sherwin Williams ought to be flattered because Behr is constantly trying to compare themselves to them.
I’m a DIY’er, and I’ve used it a couple of times. Their premium line has a one-coat coverage guarantee, and it’s not hype. For my living room, I used two gallons, compared with four gallons of a cheaper brand earlier. So while it’s certainly more expensive per gallon, it cost me less in the long run. I didn’t spray it, I rolled & brushed, and I don’t think it runs any more than anything else. It’s fairly thick, so perhaps even less. For a contractor, they may have an interest in something else, from a cost containment and availability perspective. But for me, it just works.
@Mark Steitz Emerald and Marquee are both trash for the money .
I own multiple rental properties and Behr is always my friend. It does the job and is cheaper than other high end brands. If I am doing same paint color , I can get away with just one coat.
The only thing I use BEHR for is painting apartments where quality doesn't matter so much .👍👍
What every contractor wants to know is if the paint covers very well with coat and how expensive or cheap it is. I personally use Berh all the time just because it covers very well with one coat because it has paint and primer in one and the price is the Icing in the cake. I’ll use Berhs premium plus over Sherwin William Emerald even if it was free. What’s the different material price and cuts labor in half
Awesome, thanks for sharing Oscar!
Exactly. Basic business. I didn't start a paint company because I love it, I was just naturally good at it and start up costs are low so I quit my job and went all in to learn business hands on. Knowing your numbers when it comes to man hours is the most important thing. Also morale tends to drop if you're kickin ass at a house to find out it will take two coats instead of being almost done.
Behr covers well? I think our definition of covers well is different.
I painted a two story stucco exterior in Upland Pa with Behr masonry and stucco paint in Nov 2013 and I liked it very much. Rolled it on. I looked at the house recently and it still looks great. I've also done interiors with Behr paint and running was a problem. Especially with ceiling cut ins on walls.
Thanks for sharing Thomas!
The Premium Plus Ultra exterior was just rated overall score of 75 (Jan 2020) as #1 exterior by Consumer Reports. Ratings primarily based on appearance at 3-6-9 years. About $188 for 5 gallons of flat at Home Depot (exclusive). Their Premium Plus came in with a rating of 73 and is around $145 for 5 gallons.
Love this video and your crew too!
"Why stand out when you're born to fit in!" ~ Andrew
lol, thanks for the support Catherine!
:) smile!
I have loved your videos since I found them about a month ago.
Now I see what you think of your crew and you're not afraid to say it, I'm even more impressed with you.
month ago 😲 get with the program son 😋
Great honest review. I've used behr paint and it's great with no problems at all. A lot of people hate it though.
Titanium dioxide is the white pigment in all paint that you see before its dyed. Its the key ingredient in primer and it's what covers stains and color on walls and ceilings. Take a look at the MSDS sheets of SW Duration paint and Behr Ultra Premium Plus. 10% more in Behr. You get way more coverage with much fewer coats needed. SW paint rolls nice because it doesn't have as much solids but sags horizontally. Behr is a bit more gloppy and will sometimes run vertically. Home owners will get more done for less with Behr. Pros can paint faster and get the job done earlier because it rolls and sprays better. That's your answer.
Tyson Harris I learned this the hard way by trying all the different paints. If you learn how to roll and spray behr you save a lot of time by covering everything one coat.
thats correct, nice to see someone who knows what they are talking about;-)
Tyson Harris Behr sucks. drips and runs a lot and it pulls terribly when cutting
BEHR Marquee sags when brushing and rolling, forget back rolling over the sags as it peels the paint back off the wall. Spraying has better results. I am a paint contractor in South Florida with high humidity.
Here's my experience with Behr paints: I built my house 20 years ago - a pretty large, two-story home - and I used the top-rated Behr Paint of the day, in a range of colors throughout. It has held up unbelievably well! Hasn't faded, cleans easily. Now, recently, I wanted to touch up some places in my bathroom that had gotten dinged up. I still happened to have a can of that two-decade old paint in a can in my garage (which gets very hot and very cold). Opened it up and it was dried to a sludge. I got some water and stirred it to hydrate it. But it had debris in it that was unstrainable. So, I got me a small pieced of wood and got the cleanest portion I could find - which was very watery and thin, and kept I kept painting it onto a piece of wood, intermittently drying it with a dryer, and doing multiple layers until I had a solid color. Took that small sample to Home Depot, they scanned it and it perfectly matched my 20-year-old paint on the wall - saving me an entire paint job, as the rest on the wall looks very good. I'm sold on Behr paint! And as Behr has remained a top-rated brand, and as the chemistry behind paints has greatly improved over the last 20 years, I can only imagine how good Behr paints are now!
I've been using Behr paint for years, outside and in. I'm sold on its quality and the service I get in the store. That said, Dunne Edwards is excellent too.
Nothing you mentioned is specific to behr paint. All paint does that. And I guarantee you the sheen didn't match.
InstaBlaster.
1. First reason I prefer Bher. A) Recently visited Sherwin-Williams store and purchased three quarts of three different colors of Latitude acrylic paint $50.00. (They won't sell you anything smaller than a quart😩) for my stucco home painting project after the Sherwin-Williams representative told me the A-100 (100 percent acrylic paint) that I came there to purchase was "a cheap paint that won't have a good result at $45 a gallon!" (On sale for $38)☹️🤔
( Then why do they sell it?) The representative told me to use their $70 per gallon interior exterior paint for my stucco home project! (which is also not made for rough stucco exteriors or hairline cracks and is not 100 percent acrylic nor is it a specialty masonry stucco waterproofing paint). Those were the two choices that I had in mind. A high build masonry waterproofing paint and a 100% acrylic paint for my stucco.🤔
B) I asked them if they have a high build thick waterproofing paint for masonry and stucco that would compare with the Bher Specialty high build waterproofing paint for masonry and stucco with hairline cracks? They said no, there is no Sherwin-Williams paint that is designed to help stucco with hairline cracks.😡 They told me to use a $50 per gallon primer underneath the $70 per gallon interior exterior paint. 😠They also do not have any paint that includes a primer although I do believe that that is just a selling gimmick. 🤔
C) Went to Home Depot purchased five small jars (5 colors ) of Behr Ultra premium paint for $23.👍😁 (First reason I prefer Bher. ) Also found their Bher Specialty Elastomeric high build waterproofing paint for Masonry and stucco which is supposed to work well on stucco with hairline cracks etc!😁
C) Next I watched Sherwin-Williams videos related to waterproof coatings used by a builder on commercial high-rises in Daytona Beach Florida! This is what I learned. A)after significant concrete stucco repair. The Sherwin-Williams expert on the project had the contractor use LEXON conditioner on top of all existing surfaces and SW MODAC smooth primer after all areas of the stucco repairs with high PH and finish all those surfaces with SW Super paint satin finish ACRYLIC on everything. ( I knew I was right) They also used SW surecrete flexible waterproofing for the concrete balconies after a cathodic system was used by the builder ( cathodes are placed in the concrete where rusting rebar is a problem, it's known to slow down the breakdown of rebar in concrete especially on oceanfront property. It's a real problem here in Florida with waterfront or oceanfront properties.)
D) the Sherwin-Williams store employees made me feel like I didn't know what I was talking about when in fact I did know exactly what I was needing and looking for to do my project and I was willing to purchase the best product for the job. Just because something is $70 or more per gallon doesn't mean it's the right product for the job! If the Sherwin-Williams employees don't know how to help me get what I want and need they should have shut up and stopped wasting my time rather than try to sell me some high-end paint for no apparent reason. And that's why I prefer Bher! 😁 A) My time has value B) they should have just shut up and given me the 100% acrylic paint samples which by the way is on sale at Sherwin-Williams right now. D) I contacted another Sherwin-Williams store. I got another moron on the phone. I called back an hour later and got a great knowledgeable guy who explained. You can't get super paint anymore. But they do have the LOXON XP waterproofing paint that I discovered watching videos by pros like you on TH-cam. 💕They have it in a flat they don't have the satin in stock but they can get it. They also don't have some of the other products that I listed above from the SW Daytona project video like Super paint. They can't get it anymore. They do have some surecrete products. He shared with me they haven't been able to get multiple products for many many months not necessarily related to covid and now because of supply chain issues they have no idea when they will be able to get some of those items. So, it's either SW LOXON XP waterproofing paint as my first coat and A-100 acrylic as my second coat unless someone advises me otherwise. Or the masonry specialty paint from Bher as my first coat and 100% acrylic paint from Bher as my second. However I'm still PO'd at the rotten customer service I received at Sherwin-Williams near my home in Sebastian Florida. Because I actually am not a paint expert and that's all they do is sell paint. I'm seriously wondering if I can't just color the masonry waterproofing paint in a satin and call it a day? Anyway home Depot makes it easier for people like me. Thank God for guys like you put so much of their knowledge online for others in their trade as well as for homeowners like me. Thank you for your valuable time and your expertise 🥰💕. I'm just really concerned about getting the right products. The painting contractor I am planning on using doesn't give any advice. Other than he prefer Sherwin-Williams. I'm worried about fading since I've seen a lot of houses fade in my area and also they don't fade evenly. I'm worried about some chalky spots on the front of my house which only occurred after someone pressure cleaned with chlorine. There's no Chalky residue anywhere else but in front. It wasn't there before the guy pressure washed the front of my house and my garage. Now my garage door and the front of my house is chalky. I'd really appreciate your opinion and so far as what should I put on top of the waterproofing paint or should I just color the waterproofing paint and use two coats of it? Or would that be a mistake because the paint is so thick? 😭 Anyway. It would be so nice if the painter made these decisions or helped me make these decisions and more fun if all I had to worry about was the colors 😁
I agree Behr paint Is great and price can't be beat getting from Home Depot
After over 35yrs of painting, I find the grade of paint is far more important than brand.
I have painted my own houses for 35 years now so interesting your point about contractor vs DIYer. Behr does market to DIYers and prices are not cheap but manageable. Paint stores like SW and PPG will charge a DIYer full price (with some sales here and there but who can time that.....) So due to small quantities I get charged $10/gal more, paint stores cater to pros first for obvious reasons. So only high vol. contractors such as yourself enjoy the privilege of wholesale/volume discounts. So makes sense DIYers are going to end up buying Behr but over the years all paint has gotten so much better and I just finished spraying 10 gallons Ultra satin on my exterior, very nice to spray, had some runs with the brush!! May have to try SW next project though thanks for the vlog I learn something new every time I watch.
Yes, we would highly recommend trying them out!
I’m not sure how old this video is but i would like to see you look back at this job in 2-3 years. I used Behr on a complete exterior paint job. After a few years the paint showed a chalky film coat. Had to clean entire service with a pressure wash and then clean with denatured alcohol. Sprayed Sherwin Williams Super Paint, looks great three years later.
Yes, Behr is not known to last long
My house is painted with this paint. Live in Louisiana. Had house painted 10 years ago. No chalking...perfect still. Due to our climate I pressure washed and looks brand new...the only part that had to be sanded and painted were the eaves. My painter never complained about this paint. He prefers Benjamin Moore.
@@Idahopainter .
@@flowersflowers5070 .
Been using Behr interior paint for the last 15 years, never once had an issue and the paint still looks great. Now their deck paint, that stuff didn't last long at all. it hasn't been 3 years later and it looks awful and in desperate need of a new coat.
I've been painting for almost 30 years. I really like the Behr marquee and Behr Ultra. I've had good luck with spraying, cutting and rolling those products. Both cover very well rolling. Can take two coats cutting with a brush over yellows etc.
Thanks for sharing Jeremy!
My go to is porter by ppg, it's great but more importantly my local paint is great to me. Behr I've found to work well, our local HD gives contractor discounts so it's pretty reasonable
I work for Home Depot which sells Behr exclusively.. and I know we do in fact offer our contractors a discount for paint purchases.. also you might want to try the Marquee paint from Behr it's is much thicker and drys really fast...
Yes, we have tried it! Thanks for sharing Paul!
Right on brother I remember 10 years ago we use to call it behrly cover but now it's improved some
lol, good name for it, thanks for watching!
I've used Behr quite a few times it sprays good dries hard I like that, it doesn't roll on good or brush well acts like snot when pulling out of the bucket. I prefer Sherwin Williams and Dunn Edwards over it as far as easier to use but it does seem to dry hard and hold up out in here in so cal , your videos make me want to move to a cooler climate get out of this heat looks beautiful there
The Big Box DOES give discounts to contractors and painters. It’s called ProXtra, and you can get up to a20% discount on Behr and Kilz. They will also do free next day delivery to your job site when you order 24 gallons or more. They also store your color information you use for each job. If you like SW ProMar, then you might want to try the Behr Pro line. Consistently out performs ProMar and with ProXtra discount it’s less expensive as well.
Thanks for sharing Glen!
I love Behr Ultra Premium for interior painting... Covers well... For exterior I've been using Valspar Professional with Kilz 2 primer... Great video and review as always I wouldn't use Behr or hire anyone to use it based on your review for exterior... Honest reviews by honest workers who do this day in and day out! Keep up the videos!
Thank you for sharing!
I used Behr Ultra satin on my homes exterior ( Tucson AZ ) 17yrs ago, and it’s still looks like new and has retained its color very well.
Just painted the full interior - primered all walls white - then applied Sherwin Williams Emerald - every single color required 2 coats. Behr has always covered in 1 coat.
I used Bear paint for many years. I thought it was great. Then I tried a good paint like Benjamin More or Sherwin Williams. There's no comparison.
I've seen Bear paint that was so thick you could stand a five-gallon stir stick in a one-gallon can and it would stand straight up. My helper asked me if it was spoiled when he opened the can. It was close to as thick as pudding.
I find the trim paints, (semi-gloss or gloss) needs to be thinned a bit or it leaves brush lines down to the old paint. So you then must paint it again to cover.
I personally use Benjamin More Paints. For trim, doors, handrails, and shelves. I only use Benjamin More Advance Interior Waterborne paint. I love that stuff. It's alkyd like oil paint but cleans up with water. There's no blocking and it looks hard like oil paints when dried. without the yellowing!
It goes on a bit more like oils. You can't just slap it on thick like latex paints, or it will run or sag as oil does.
There's a sixteen-hour recoat time, but I think it's worth it. You can see the difference when it dries. I tend to work alone most of the time so I can usually only get one coat on the trim in a day anyway.
Ben Moore is the best , I'd rather use Ben Moores contractor paint than BEHRS best paint .
I agree, Advance self levels. Its all I use for interior trim. You can paint using a pinecone and will appear sprayed.
Pinecone lol that's good@@flahertypaintingpropertyso4021
The reason why it runs is because it has high amounts of titanium dioxide, which is a heavy content, that's why it covers so well. It's also the most expensive part of any paint. For those that don't know, titanium dioxide is the replacement of lead paint. I use to get runs as well but I have mastered cutting, rolling, and spraying with this paint. No drips, no skips, no sags. I roll and cut in heavy, you have to be one with the paint ;) lol
Thanks for sharing Bill!
I agree bill
it has a bit of a learning curve i used to hate it but now i respect it
Well said. 🐈
I just painted the exterior of my house with this paint. I used a Harbor Freight pressure pot and air spray gun attached to long hoses. I had to thin the paint a bit with water for it to spray better. I have no complaints at all. Very good coverage. I really like how fast it dries. I'll try something else next time, if I'm still kicking.
Thanks for sharing!
Thin it ? LOL BEHR is the thinnest runniest paint on the market .
Looks like you have some great guys working for you- amazing that they all noticed the drops and runs, but that it sprays nicely.
Blessed to have the crew we have! Thanks for watching!
I have a client that insisted on using this on the interior of the home. The home was stripped of all carpet and flooring which made it easy to spray. I found that just like it did several years ago, it also runs when Spraying as well as brush and roll. The interior spray also flashes very easy Unfortunately I am not a fan
Use Marquee, it's excellent, hands down their flat interior paint is worth the money and it helps if you have a %20 pro discount, ($34/gallon flat). I've used their Marquee flat/matte paint and love it because it is has great coverage, is easy to clean, durable and a great value. Marquee does smell though and it is the only drawback and some home owners just can't deal with it. The biggest issue I have with HD is that they only deliver on very large orders, something like 50+ gallons ? Their paint department is clueless and rarely do you find someone who knows what their talking about. They just don't carry a good selection of items for painting and they run out of things all the time because they don't stock for a commercial painter. I simply call my SW store and the same day or next day I have my paint and supplies either delivered to my job site or my home. The pricing is just slightly more expensive than HD but the convenience and time savings that my SW store provides me can't be measured.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
I have also had a hard time with behr, but not so much with it running be just being too thick and getting gunky and hard to spread smooth.
this paint is junk
All paint is made by one of the big four paint companies under various brand names:
1) PPG
They bought Akzo-Nobel paints US division which included the brands Pittsburg, Glidden, Olympic, Flood, Sikkens, Devoe, Duluxe, and Walmart ColorPlace, WeatherBeater Sears. Ralph Lauren, Martha Stewart.
2) Sherwinn-Williams
Owns the brands Valspar, Duron, Frazee, MAB, Minwax, Krylon, Mautz, Purdy, Bestt Liebco, Thompson’s WaterSeal, H&C, Pratt & Lambert, Martin-Senour and Dutch Boy, HGTV paint, Clark+Kensington and Ace Paint.
3) Masco
Owns Masterchem which makes Kilz and Behr
4) Benjamin Moore
Thanks for sharing!
Who makes Parra?
Never tried it. Good to hear the opinions though
I like Behr paint I use the marquee it is more expensive but I like that I can do one coat and it is good, I am lazy, I noticed that the Behr premium does not stick as good and you must do a second coat.
I use behr paint the most on my jobs and never came across it running as its thick paint. Never seen thin or runny behr paint in all my years.
Actuall sometimes i find it to thick on some jobs.
Maybe its made different in your area as im from canada.
Great video tho. Keep up the great videos.
That's because of the rheology modifiers Behr uses. It not necessarily a sign of good paint. They focus on the DIY end user versus contractors who know how to work with a variety of finishes. Some of the most garbage paint doesn't run. You could put a paint stick in it and it wouldn't fall over.
Behr isn't bad, it's just not formulated regionally, like SW, Rodda, KM, DE, Vista, etc. You can get a equal or better product for less from the wholesale paint suppliers if you negotiate with a rep and use a decent amount of paint. I was a rep for KM and eventually sold ICI products against Behr in Home Centers.
You videos have great tips on how to paint using various types of tips depending g on the type of surface being painted, exterior or trims.
I like the honesty in this video. One thing you like and one thing you don't like is the best question. It reminds me of Army after-action reviews: What when well? What didn't go well? ...
Thanks for watching Michael!
I'll say this, I got Marquee Matte Paint (COLOR: Cracked Pepper), and I ended up having paint strokes on my wall. I used 2 gallons. I called in thinking I was only filing a complaint, and they sent me TWO new gallons to repair it... that's like $100 of replaced paint. No hassle, nothing, I didnt even have to ask. They were wonderful.
Behr paint has changed its chemistry over the years. pros: it covers good. It's not as pungent as it used to be. The Marquee brand is worth EVERY penny & truly covers with 1 coat. very little to no holiday on 1 coat. The hi-glossbis very durable and finishes nice. The ceiling paint thick and bright. It really covers well with a bright true white. 11 years ago I did not like Behr paint at all.
cons: if u leave it in a paint pan it develops a skin. The brushing capabilities for cutting or trimming is tough though. I tend to mix a little water when brushing baseboards.
Thanks for sharing Sean!
Use Floetrol, not water.
Water not only dilutes the paint but also weakens the bond and shortens the life.
+Mark Spotter
thanks for that advise. gonna follow it. take care
i just used the marquee about a week ago and was very happy with it but its between 45-50 bucks a gallon but only one coat is all it took!
during the past two years I have used Behr exterior and it is now faded and cracked/peeling.... .>behr sucks. Right now I just don't know what to do... which paint to go with.
thanks man you have helped me out so much. And I love watching your shows.
Glad to hear, thanks for watching Jason!
I’ve painted over all of my contractor grade neutral non-color lifeless paint using BEHR.
Won’t use anything else.
Searching for BEHR Southwest color palettes now.
They're all wearing Sherwin Williams T-Shirts.
I used Behr paint in my kitchen about 12 years ago and the living and dinning room about 8 years ago. It hasn't chipped or anything. Goes on smooth and even.
I used Behr about 20 years ago and it was literally like painting with water, they have definitely gotten much better over the years , but they do still need some improvements
Their midline is thick imo. I was actually really annoyed with SW quality, comparably, when I painted my whole house, you pay the premium for SW and it's supposed to be this great paint definitely not impressed. Even with contractor discounts, from SW, it would have been cheaper to grab Behr from HDepot.
That's a load of crap I did my bathroom in it 20 years ago and it lasted for years
Two of the most important qualities to the customer are overall appearance (colors and sheen) and durability. I’ve seen high priced new neighborhoods where all the houses needed repainting within 4 years.
You can get a discount on paint at HD. Ask about it at the pro desk. If you ever get a chance, I would like your opinion on the Kilz Pro. Particularly the dead flat. I have only used it in demos while working the paint desk at HD and that was several years ago.
Kilz Pro is a very good product
I'm a DIY'er - we quit using Behr about 10 years ago. SW seems to be the best for us - both spraying and rolling.
You a grad? Most people who root for them work at Walmart...
We used behr ultra recently on a job. I had never used it but another hand on the job said this is all he used on his other jobs and had high compliments for it. I noticed I had to find that magical place where I didn’t load my brush too much and almost dry brush it in the end because it ran so much. I ended up following behind the hands paint areas also cleaning up his runs. It does seem like it would be great for spraying but you can’t just slap it around.
I just finished an entire repaint inside and out. I had more runs than ever before on the trim inside and found the rolled coverage on the facias to be less than desired. The rest of the coverage turned out great.
BEHR is very runny , as a professional painter I say it sucks . I've been called to homes many various times to fix a mess from a homeowner . Often a homeowner will roll out a room and say wow it looks great to return to look at it in an hour to find out the paint sagged . Sucks because you can't really sand fresh paint , I usually just skim coat over it with joint compound to fix it .
My company uses dunn edwards and sherwin williams paint exclusively but once in a while we work with other brands if the customer has it for us. So from time to time we use behr paint from home depot. It is by far the best paint I have worked with. Smooth and creamy. Glides well and covers like a bandit. We only ever used it for interior though.
I used Behr for our family room and rolled it, probably back 2013.Considering the ceiling was already white and the wall an off white, I remember it didn't seem to cover as well and had to go over it after the 2nd coat. Using SW now to do the rest of the 1st floor and the kitchen cabinets this very moment :) Typing with paint speckled on my hands lol
Yes, that is one of the reasons we do not typically recommend Behr
DFW 👍🏼 pretty cool to see you guys promote each other and show each other respect
I'm from Irving TX brother, always needing a good hand!!
I like behr ! Specially the Marque . Covers really nice and its very smooth 👌
Home Depot does offer discounts on paint and they can deliver paint as well
I'm just a DIY'er but have sprayed enough behr paint to know that I don't like it. I just sprayed my trim and wainscotting with SW Emerald trim enamel. It's expensive but I loved the way it layed down. 2 cents
Thanks for sharing 🤙
Loved seeing and hearing the crew. Thanks!
At 7:30 you say it's designed for the DIY homeowner - thanks for the tip! I need to paint my home interior.
So basically it’s good to spray and use on the house body but I would use a different product to trim everything out. I’ve used the behr interior with the primer already in it on a couple bedrooms..I was impressed with the coverage.
Mainly what I look for isn't how many shortcuts I can take, but how long it lasts. My favourite product from Behr is their interior/exterior super white (you can tint it). We use it on our yachts, as well ashouses, and on interior trim that normally would take oil paint.
Thanks for sharing!
Strange that you say the big box stores don’t cater to contractors. I was helping paint my Aunts house last week and ran low on paint, our local Home Depot has a “Behr Pro” Rep and he gave me his card with a direct line, on my way to the Home Depot I called in with what I needed, they charged my CC over the phone, and they brought the bucket outside and threw it in my truck. I’m not a contractor but I felt that was awesome service.
That is awesome to hear that they did that !
I applied two coats of Behr Ceiling White Flat paint in a
kitchen/dining room/living room (all one room - 45'x35') and had a very
difficult time hiding roller marks using a Wooster 3/8" nap polyester
roller cover and dipping straight out of a clean 5 gallon bucket with a
roller screen. It was like I was using an "eggshell" sheen. After
reading numerous complaints online about others having the same issues, I
switched to their i300 line of Dead Flat white. I re-rolled the
kitchen/dining room area one evening, and came back the next to roll the
living room. There is a definite difference between the two areas.
Kitchen/ dining was more creamy white, and the living room was a bluer
white. I thought maybe different drying temperatures. I bought another 5
gallon pail to re-roll the whole area in one shot and still have
issues. When did "flat" paint become "not flat" paint? When Behr says
"superior touch-up" and uniformity, I say BS. As soon as you would try
and do a touch up, you'd see it. This stuff does not blend and is NOT
flat. FYI~ General contractor for over 35 years, so yes, I've painted before.
Yeah, it's not good, thanks for sharing your experience with it!
I like valspar but use whatever the client buys if its their choice.
If they buy cheap paint i charge extra for labor.
I hear this alot but I use Behr with no issues. I tried SW Duration and hated it so much because it showed every brush stroke on a block home with knockdown, so I used it as a first coat and then second coat with Behr, This was 16 years ago in south Florida, and it still looks great, Not sure why this only happens to me with SW paint. Everyone seems to like SW.
I am a DIY'er and have used a lot of Behr in the past. I tried Sherwin Williams Infinity on my latest project, and love it. It was a few dollars more than Behr, but true one coat coverage, no runs, and it sprays, brushes and rolls well in my opinion. No more Behr for me.
Yes, I do not like Behr at all, glad you've switched!
Craig Summers Behr Marqee is pretty amazing!
Leave it to a home owner who doesn't want to paint to hire painters and decide for them what paint to use...
@@williamsealy8781 Not their solo line, new drywall it was primer + 3 coats. Awful product and it had this speckling I cannot describe - almost like the paint split. I used Dulux upstairs instead now I have 10 gallons I don't want to use haha ;x Not to mention Dulux and Behr are like half the cost of SW
The paint covers good bud after i rolled i have to go 1 or 2 more time to rerolle it
Good to hear you like the paint & that Behr Premium Plus Ultra sprays "like butter."
lol, thanks for watching!
I've used Berh.....I loved it.....I don't use sprayers...I simply use rollers....and brush.....I love the Whiz roller to make all my cut inz around windows....and soffits......without spending hours putting up plastic and tape......no overstay on the neighbors cars and house....in Kansas its always windy....love Berh......I have houses I painted 7 years ago with satin sheen....I drive by and the house still looks good...
Thanks for sharing Dave!
Bahahaha yeah I'm from Chicago the Midwest is way too windy, moved to Los Angeles where it's never windy so every time I visit back home I'm squinting cuase of the wind and I feel like I'm mad doggin everyone, but painting outdoors in the Midwest is brutal
I've never had any of these issues. That basic flat matte exterior always touches up great! The new interior scuff defense is just as good as super paint, it is thick I put some flotrol in it. Flow like butter
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I'm not a big fan of behr and only use it by request, but if you look at CR's criteria (Hiding, surface smoothness, Gloss change after scrubbing, staining, cleanability, mildew resistance, fade resistance). Those are mostly "in service" characteristics. If they were to weigh those factors against ease of application it would probably end up lower on the list. In my experience it runs too much and tends to contract around surface imperfections rather than flowing over them so the end result is less than ideal, especially on any trim. That said I can't question it's durability because I've never done such tests myself, and if that is the customers top priority it seems like a top choice.
Good video, I've seen several of your videos and I love your high energy.
As an avid DIY homeowner I’ve tried paint from the big box stores and noticed the exact things you mentioned in this video. Now I prefer to purchase paint at SW stores or the like.
I do like primers sold at big box stores but they are not Behr or Valspar.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Seems like a nice crew. Appreciate the honest reviews.
Like I tell all my clients any paint is good as long as you apply it properly.Primer and 2 coats..
Behr Marquee has been softening and falling off my walls after about a year. No issues with moisture in the drywall.
I used Behr Deckover for a period of time... I liked it but found it's MUCH better for rolling then brushing. My Sherwin Williams rep turned me onto Super Deck and I swear by it! I could really use some better guys on my crew, looks like yours are fantastic! If any one of them ever move to Maryland, please have them reach out to me.
andrew beaudry. Yes sir, it does tend to peel dependant on your climate, dry time in between coats, if the deck is completely dry.... Currently I use something called Deck&Dock. Its pretty amazing stuff, almost a thick as pudding. They call it a deck restorant, elastomeric paint. Its formulated to bridge and fill cracks. Beats the hell out of DeckOver.
Thanks for watching!
I agree with the tradesmen in the video. It runs easily so you have to watch it. As far as coverage it is one of the better paints out there. However, across the board I find Behr to be only for the DIYer and not pro. Advice to any painter diy or pro. DO NOT USE BEHR CEILING PAINT. It is the worst shit ever. Lap marks everywhere regardless of keep wet edge. Just awful. CHB from SW is best ceiling paint on the market imho. Thanks for the videos Chris.
Thank You.
I used behr marquee 1 coat ultra white eggshell on my ceiling. It covered well without lap marks but that might have been because it was eggshell
@@ChrisJohnson-tb1rw I think they have improved their formula in the last few years
@@southsideshenanigans i can agree with the runny drip. I noticed that when i was cutting
I've used Behr's paint several times, if customer wants it, it is not bad. , I found it worked out ok, flowed ok, but I agree on the discount. Home Depot don't cater to paint contractors with much discount, and If I was on a large commercial job and needed 200 gal.'s, it would be a nightmare depending on them. I prefer Porter Paint, PPG. Good video again, well done. JohnG
I think Behr's exterior paint was pretty OK (last used in 2015) rolled and brushed smooth. The biggest problem I see with it from a DIY vs pro painter perspective (the exterior was less bad in this way, but the interior was really bad...) is basically it doesn't level out well at all, and roller/brush marks just stay there because it's made to dry quick, and be "easy to apply" by poking paint/using a cheapo brush, so it sacrifices the ability to level for that. The interior ultra I remember approx 2012 being good as a beginner painter, but then I used some again in 2015 and it was just absolutely horrendous, and I think it was a formula change, and even the Behr shill Jack Pauhl admitted to a formula change and stopped using it around then, too. Premium Plus I used about the same time frame was OK and oddly better than the Ultra, and basically handled similar to Promar 200, etc.
Thanks for sharing!
What kind of paint do you like to use for your interior repaints Chris?
also the last guy interviewed is amazing
Yes he is!
Oh, one Behr paint I do like as an exception is actually Behr alkyd, though. There's obviously better stuff on the market, but it's not bad at all. It levels super well, and dries hard on primed surfaces. Just it has an 8-12 hour dry time. But for what it is, it's not bad at all, especially for $35 at HD. Just adhesion is only acceptable, not great, as in, it still won't go over poly/varnish with no primer, but again, for what it is, not bad at all.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the honest review. It sounds like the paint comes set up to spray and be applied in thinner coats. Other folks who use the Behr paint a lot might think the Sherwin Williams paints you are used to as being too thick.
Yes, thanks for watching Greg!
I have been using Behr Premium Plus paint for over 20 years and it does a great job for me. A long time ago the exterior paint had issues with fading, but it doesn't do it now. I know Consumer Reports has it listed as the best paint you can buy. The Behr Premium Plus rates higher than their Marquee brand, so be sure to use it. I also used Behr Premium wood stain on my treehouse and it has held up great so far. Just don't buy your paint brushes at Home Depot, BigLots has high quality paint brushes that cost about 80% less.
I like your good and bad approach towards the review. I actually charge an addition few for using these box store paints. That is too cover the additional cost of protecting from drops with paper plastic and run issues. I don't have today with my supplier. Insert plug for spectrum paint. :)
That is a good idea to charge extra, lol, thanks for watching!
Your right about home Depot not catering to contractors, oh I forgot they give you special parking right outside the door!! Yepe. They did have somewhat of discount in past but now eliminated that so they could care less about contractors. So I go to Sherwin Williams or PPG for all my paint.
That's the place to go! Thanks for watching Rick!
Actually, If you join their Pro group, they give you discounts up to 20%.
Rod Wolfy , I get 40% at Sherwin Williams. For what I think is more Superior paint.
Rick Washek
You don’t know what you’re talking about... go see how your SW holds up after a year.
Duration got named as one of the worst products of the 2000s. SW constantly rates on the bottom end of consumers report whereas Behr is rated #1 in most categories followed by Benjamin Moore.
you can not go by those reports, they reports are who pays the most and who pays for more advertising...sw and BM or far far superior the any of the behr paints
I've painted for 30 years and Behr is the best paint period. I've used all brands for 25 years and nobody can compete with Behr. Don't let SW or Ben Moore fool you with the shiny labels and high price tags. Behr doesn't pay Home Depot. SW is geared for retail and apartment painters in my opinion.
The pro painters are all bribed by Benjamin Moore and Sherwin Williams, Behr paint is outstanding, just did my whole basement, walls (eggshell) doors & trim in semi-gloss, very good paint, used the Behr Dynasty
I've only used Behr Valspar and Sico(in Canada) I don't notice any difference between any of these. Always put two coats and happy with results
Used it on interior a few times. We didn't have any issues.
Behr is great and it does run but your spot on when you said it's for the do it yourself.....the price is a lot cheaper too than sherwin Williams....sherwin overpriced price....I got behr for $35/ gallon and sherwin Williams was charging me $67/ gallon
Yes, a little more spendy but I say you get your money's worth!
Funny your guys said the Behr paint was too thin because every time I've used it before it seems really gummy and thick, and I like paints that are easier to put up on walls and are a little thinner. It's why I like Sherwin Williams so much like you, Chris!
SW is the way to go
I just started to use SW paint , only because I watched a video a couple weeks back that said you should buy the best paint you can afford and I noticed the contractors in my area also use this brand . So I bought a quart of SW middle grade and personally found its coverage is superior to anything I have ever used and it has a lifetime warranty , so I`m kinda sold on its quality . I will use Glidden , Olympic , or Behr on projects that are not so showy though .
Benjamin Moore is best. I’d rate Valspar as an excellent second choice.
Glidden is surprisingly ok.
SW? Not a big fan.
Behr paint is formulated for spraying. If your rolling / brushing forget it , it runs and plan on at lease 3x coat. Maybe 4-5 coats depends.
Yeah, we didn’t have much luck with it
ToppCat you're a terrible painter.
It is a fantastic paint. Pretty much top of the line. But what has problems is the price the customer sees it and kind of scares them away is why I always guarantee valspar.
Hey Chris try out Gliddem Diamond for interior...same as Superpaint in my opinion!
Awesome, we will have to one of these days!
@@Idahopainter Hey Chris,do you guys get Parra paint in the States?I love their semi gloss interior for trim.I know you guys spray most trim but when brushing that Parra glides so nice and lays down like no other. (IMO)
Only downside about diamond
Is 4 hour recoat
That intro is 👌🏻🔥🔥
In Delaware you get a 20% contractor discount at home depot 5 galls exterior satin for $130...for the money it's a great deal...Now when it comes to preference of course I would prefer resilience And we all know you're getting that for free chris...😂
try benmoore ultra spec 500. a lot better paint,and has color lock tech, meaning if you have a bright red, it will not turn pink when the sun bleaches out the color.
ive been a painter for about 10 years now... i try to avoid behr at all costs :p its just not the same quality as a paint from a paint store, ben moore, sherwin williams, dulux.. some costumers really want behr or theyll buy the paint themselves and supply us with behr.. but for the most part we try avoiding it.. had an issue with their paint once too, bought 10 gallons and the paint wasn't sticking, luckily when we called them they actually refunded us on the 10 gallons, we only used 2.. 1 was giving us issues so we opened another to see if it was just mixed poorly.. but the 2nd one gave the same issues, it wouldnt cover and was runny and jsut a nightmare. and they refunded the 2 we opened and used as well.
I've been using Behr paint for about 7 years now it does coat pretty good resilience cost a lot more. Bear does run pretty easily though.
Thats all I use behr ultra marqee expensive but durable & practically stain free cleans up well..
Curious 3 years later how the paint job lasted. I live in an area HD is my only option for paint. Behr is the best they have. I want this to last at least 8 years on older wood siding with peeling. I called behr they told me i didn’t have to clean it but I chipped , sanded and I”m power washing today. They have a life time warranty so how bad can it be?
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I just used 4 gallons of Behr. 2 of the Behr Ceiling paint and 2 of the Marquee. I have to say the Marquee does look good but it is not a one coat paint. You really need to have enough paint and roll it slowly in order to be one coat but it just doesn't seem like enough coverage over certain walls with one coat. The Marquee does seem thicker than other paints, it takes a little longer to dry too but for the price you pay for it's about the same price as Super Paint from SW which rolls better and have less splatter. As for the Behr ceiling paint, it is garbage. Way too much drips and splatters compared to SW Eminence which really rolls easily without drips. So I can't say Behr stuff is great, they are ok if you have a HD 10% coupon and get it cheap. You get what you paid for.
FYI....The Home Depot is the only company that sells Behr. Behr is exceptionally priced well...the top of the line Marquee retails for $42.....if you have an account you can get 10%, 15%, and 20% off of that. SW top of the line Emerald costs $75 retail..you will need a 45% discount to be in the same price range as Behr on the shelf. Consumer reports after doing 22 separate tests on all paints available in North America, has deemed Behr paints rated #1, #2, and #3...and Behr has had that standing going on 12 years now. Sherwin Williams doesn’t even fall in the top 10. The Home Depot and Behr both deliver paint. They have services in place at the paint counter as well as down at the pro desk to keep track of all jobs and colors used. There is not one thing a SW does that The Home Depot doesn’t do. Rollout the products next to each other and its a black and white difference. The tests that Consumer Reports does is consistent with all things that matter to both a diy’er and also a pro. Literally everything I just mentioned in this comment is verifiable, recorded, and factual. No opinions.....you have to test it, not just take someone’s word for it.
you are comparing apples to peanuts, benjamin moore ultra spex exterior and interior is the same price as the marquee but a much better paint, you comparing their top line to their middle line in pricing,,and consumer reports are not real reports, so you can not go by them, ask people who have painted for years and the real quality
and there is no pro at home depot at paint dept, they took a 2 hour course now they are experts in paint, i played stupid one day, asked them i was painting my kitchen cabinets that had oil varvish, they told me i didnt need to prime and just paint them with there primer in one paint, which will not stick, so i said ohh primer and paint, i replaced all the sheerock there as well so i do not need to prime, they said no i didnt need to prime, because their paint have primer in it,,,,again will bubble and not adhere to new drywall and crack fill..
Rodney Monk I work at a Home Depot paint desk full time. SW contractors come in all the time to buy Behr because Behr is as good and better than SW and priced at less than half the cost
I use both but I will never ask a Home Depot paint department mixer for advice. Wolf, I had a girl tell me the same thing. You want an honest attempt getting a good color match and a person that can make the judgement call for color adjustments, go the Sherwin Williams. They've kept paint for a good half day or more tweaking it for me to get as close as humanly possible.
I use Marquee for interior walls unless I'm going for a "true" flat sheen. Marquee doesn't roll out too well and cut in is bit mucky but I try to work it quick. I use Super Paint on exteriors and Pro Classic for trim. I use e600 for clients with rentals that want to just dress it up. They both have their advantages, but I get annoyed by Behr representatives telling me how much better their paint is because of spec sheets, not mentioning the quality of the ingredients . I can't sit there and argue with someone that is telling me their spec sheet says it's better while my experience is wrong especially when they are ex painters with way less total years of experience.
Overall, Sherwin Williams ought to be flattered because Behr is constantly trying to compare themselves to them.
I like it. It can run when overapplied its not as forgiving in those situations. Who cares if its thin if it covers good 0.o
Thanks for sharing!
Chris don't stop making videos. Zack is stepping it ☝
I will never stop!