@@LanceDango I need to start paying attention to stopped trucks, I don't remember seeing this often but to be fair I don't remember seeing either actually.
Fed ex can keep their trucks running at each stop though...ups drivers have to turn them off but it still might help a little. It would definitely help to have it in the back....the back turns into an oven
I'm UPS employee, and not just the drivers are having a rough time, but package handlers as well. The heat will kill you if you're loading in a trailer depending where you work at. Some building don't offer fans to point in a trailer, and sometimes the trailers that bring in from outside of the building, and they're sitting in the heat. Also... To keep on a side note. Our UNION doesn't help us and maybe that's just where we're located, but the UNION near doesn't care to take any of our calls, or come down to ask what we think, or to make up a meet up for a closer location. They want all of us to drive 2 hours to sit for a meeting. Depending where you live some areas that UNIONS are at don't care.
Package handler for 10 yrs. It’s an extremely hard job and not many people can do what we do on a daily basis. We literally hire 25-50 new hires a month because the jobs such hard work after just a few hrs in the warehouse people quit. Drivers and package handlers deserve better pay especially the amount of profits this company is racking in! Oh and about the union…they don’t do anything anymore for us like the stories I heard from older drives or workers who’ve been working there 30+ years. Before it was a good thing to join now there almost no point especially if the location your at doesn’t care.
Yup. I used to be a part time supervisor/trainer for outbound overnight. The turnover rate is over 100 percent. New hires do not last 5 days. Someone passes out everyday because of heat. Nobody cares. I can say that with confidence. The "safety" office are looking out for their bottom line and every injury is a hit to their bonuses and lame ass "pizza" fridays that if you eat pizza you will feel like shit no matter the weather. The fans are 20 years old and you have to stand directly in front of the fan to get air flow in a 52 foot trailer were packages are falling all over the place. If ita 100 degrees outside its 120 in the trailer. UPS sucks.
I use to be a UPS package handler/loader and I can 100% that UPS does not care at all!! They care so much more for progress and numbers and I’ve almost passed out myself due to sweating so much and having to go so fast. I quit five months ago and I hope something changes
Fr, i used to do it as well, i worked in a really old ups warehouse that had no A.C. and barely even had fans. Could only work there for a month. They were pretty sketcky about paychecks too, the checks often seemed lower than normal and when we asked our supervisors about it they blamed it on computer error.
I used to drive for UPS and can attest that the drivers work hard and Management is evil. Most exploitative management I ever worked for, which is a shame because the company works miracles on a daily basis and I was proud to be a part of it. But nothing is good enough for their managers who buck for promotion by showing how "tough" they can be on employees, who are already working their hearts out.
That's the way it got at AT&T as managers were not represented by the union and could get the ax at any time. I had one manager that quit as a manager and went back to craft. Another one considered it. I remember one day hearing all the loud yelling as one of our 1st line managers was arguing with the district manager who was a jerk. Managers were getting pushed to produce or they would get the ax.
I’ve been driving for UPS for 22 years. I can say I’ve had my share of poor management, but I have to say, my current management is absolutely amazing. They know we have tough jobs, but so do they. If we’re doing a good job, they don’t get pulled into corporate phone calls getting their a$$ ripped about our performance. While some management definitely has power trip issues, some can also be really good.
Living in the country I appreciate my UPS drivers. I had no idea. UPS should be ashamed and so should stockholders. It is barbaric and inhumane. People get arrested for leaving animals in the heat with no water. What about these fellow human beings who are being mistreated. Get behind the drivers and call UPS. I ship everything this way so I will be voicing an opinion.
Uber eats doesn't pay as much as ups, no benefits but I can take a break when I need to. I wouldn't want to be a delivery driver without the ac and my water bottle and or Gatorade.
Good point Sharon,people get arrested for leaving kids and pets in a hot car.UPS and the Union needs to wake up and fix this issue before someone gets hurt really bad from heat exhaustion.
i just quit yesterday from trying to qualify to be a driver at ups and let me just say it was one of the most stressed out, exhausted ,and demanding job ive ever had. constant 10-14 hour shifts no breaks in a heatwave, and to qualify everyone tells you to clock out on break and keep working so that your numbers look better it is completely and utterly wrong how they treat there workers
Telling someone they're not allowed to call 911 is a violation of their civil rights and the person instructing them not to call 911 is administering Medical advice which is a crime also.
I’m a package handler, unloader, and shop steward. I’m at a point where I’ve decided I don’t wanna drive for UPS, because of not having AC, etc. Been a insider over 2 years.
SAW MY DRIVE PULLING UP - I quickly ran to my fridge and got a huge glass of water with ice. Met him at the door. He was a sweaty mess. He said thanks and downed the entire glass in a few seconds. I feel for these guys. 🥵
@@kimlayne1993Are you fucking kidding me, someone just did a nice gesture and you still find something to complain about. I bet you could ask the UPS driver themselves if they would prefer lukewarm water vs. A cold iced water and they would still choose the iced one.
You think a group of millionaires who own this company are sitting somewhere crying about what happen to this guy on his route? No, they're in board meetings laughing and talking about their next vacation or buying their offspring a new home as a graduation gift. Bottom line, none of them care. They've made money off of desperate folks looking for a job that pays good under horrible conditions. The only way that they'll start showing sympathy is if the company takes a nose dive and people start leaving. Then you'll see various videos of them crying and acting concerned. Aside from that, they'll never care.
There are several of us drivers working the heat everyday who own stock and are millionaires.... So your argument is a little soft. But yes, the management doesn't care and I guess more of them are millionaires. Nobody makes anybody work here, we are all free to quit.
@@martyjoseph9507 It's no millionaires that are driving in the heat willingly every day to feel inspired, or because they have nothing else better to do. You can take that make-believe else where. This guy could have passed away from heat exhaustion while the rich are in cozy AC filled offices bragging about their wealth. Knock it off and finish your board meeting Tom.
@@dukeachilles3294 four decades, gotten toughen up if you want to outrun me. Eat a tablespoon of salt at night, makes you replace what you lost. Everybody it doing the same, take care of yourself and lose the victim mentally.
@@martyjoseph9507 Like I told you before Tom, finish that board meeting and before giving out health advice, consult with a legitimate physician about your eating habits. Your blood pressure is probably through the roof with all the salt you've knowingly ingested. Take the rest of that BS to someone who will believe it. I've been on the front line, and NOBODY will willingly do that type of work just because its FUN.
@@dukeachilles3294 ah, you probably like automatic transmissions and power steering. I can see what type of driver you are, go complain about whatever you can. You make a lousy troll, find a hobby more suited for your skills.
Bro if u know those truck never had AC just quit or buy a fan u can plug litter u can carry iceshe carry ur bottles of water no sean pendejos todas la bolas de UPS
As a former semi trailer truck loader for UPS i can tell you none of this is exaggerated ... supervisors clocked workers loading trucks with a stop watch in hand
I work for UPS as well. I must be very fortunate, because I haven’t experienced any of the horror stories that I read about online, although I know it’s 💯 happened. We had a horrible preload manager when I started, but he was fired within a year of me being hired. I think as a lot of the old timers retire, the ones who did come up and were trained in this type of atmosphere, stuff like this will be dying off as they do. My building has its issues, but I’m definitely very fortunate to be where I’m at compared to what other buildings go through.
I’m a ups driver this brought a tear the thought of having AC in my truck brought a tear to my eye …. My friend had a seizure due to the heat our center didn’t find him for a hour and half when they walked up to his truck it was a bloody mess they thought he was dead due to how much blood was there
@@nuffrespect1248 I think they get taken out..personally I can’t answer the new ones might be built with out them but either way it would only take 180 dollars to put them in… ups hit record profits last year
Nevada Arizona Texas florida those are worth weather in states if I know get dam hot I will ask for transfer UPS are nationwide or either I’ll quit get another job had better equipment simple
I work in attics a lot in the summer where it's around 130 degrees and the air is stale and full of insulation debris. When I start making dumb mistakes, I know it's time to get out and take a break and cool off. Sometimes I have to wear a full Tyvek suit and full face respirator while up there. It's hard to make yourself even go up there, bc the heat causes your brain to panic and go into flight mode and you have to fight it the whole time. Scary shit
There isn't one company that exists that cares about the safety and welfare of its employees period. Companies allow adverse conditions to exist because it allows productivity to continue flowing and and is all they care about. Employees are expendable and treated like a commodity. If a employee gets injured the first course of action for management is to see how much of the blame can be shifted to the employee to reduce management's culpability.
You clearly haven’t worked for a good company. I would say corporations are more so corrupt compared to privately owned businesses. Dont generalize every company
I'm still a UPS employee, working the preload shift (Usually 4AM to 7:30 AM) for revenue recovery, and I have massive respect for drivers. It's bad enough that it's hot in the warehouse, but I can't imagine being out there for 10+ HOURS. I complain about breaking down my body for a measly $250 every week, but the fact that these drivers are risking their LIVES just to deliver us packages that we constantly order online makes my complaining irrelevant. This reason is now why I offer any driver, whether it's a doordash dasher or any other delivery service that comes to my house, a cold bottle of water, and even then I'd give them two bottles; because I picture myself being in their shoes. I've also worked as an unloader, and wanted to be a driver, glad I dodged a bullet there. You think being in a trailer for about an hour and a half or 2 is bad? Again, think about the people being in the heat for over 10 hours every. single. week. Again, huge respect to these drivers risking their lives for making sure we get our packages; we don't get paid enough for what we go through, inside or outside the warehouse.
@@jgonz1178 I don't know about that since I'm not a driver but I'm only there for the money, some benefits, and some chill workers, including one of my supervisors. Me personally, I'm going to college to get something under my belt to get into the more bigger/successful jobs out there.
@@jgonz1178 Jokes on you Gonz!!! Not UPS drivers on their opinion about college.By the way it's spelled "Waste" not "Waist"as you put it.So much for your argument on college yeah!!!
The CEO will never admit to anything . Doing so would be acknowledging that climate change has some real world implications . To deny these truths is their mission . Ultimately they simply don't give a shit about their employees . To them they are like foot soldiers that get sacrificed for the next earnings report battle on wall street . Casualties to them are an Acceptable risk . It doesn't affect them one bit . The question now is simply this : Why would anyone in their right mind want to work for them ?
Stop equating this shit to capitalism, it's not capitalism. It's post industrial Feudalism. The biggest problem with the left is their inability to grasp the concept of capitalism. These companies only exist because government regulations prevent competitors from existing.
@@Llynnyia that would not really give them the full taste . Having to go home , meeting the family and 'tasting' what that is like to be at the mercy of uncaring employers . Having to make ends meet while also having to ignore a body that screams for help ........ That might get them closer to comprehending just what kind of sacrifice they demand from their employees . I agree that capitalism per say is not the problem . If only it could be compassionate instead of purely greed driven . Why not reinvest the profits into the wellbeing of the employees instead of faraway investors that simply couldn't care less about how the profit margin is generated . Highly motivated workers are the best thing that could happen to an employer . Intimidated, frustrated workers are more accident prone . The overall work environment quickly turns toxic when workers feel misunderstood , unappreciated , bullied , underpaid ........
I retired from the USPS. Believe me it's the same way. Those LLV's get up to over 120 degrees inside even with that worthless 8 inch fan. Makes it like a microwave oven inside. They don't want you to roll down your windows if you are on a Walking Route using these Vehicles. Supervisors and Postmasters give you an extra 2 hours of Overtime in the extreme conditions all the time amd this makes you be out there for 10 hours. They could at least bring you out some Ice Water. They don't care. They are in their Air Conditioned Office. Thank goodness for some of my great customers who would be there waiting for me to give me a Cold Drink.
@@rickb3650 She should listen to you and go ahead and do a grievance.That's how change come about.Does someone have 2 pass out and die b4 we see change🤔
Let's band together as a nation. As much as we are able, give UPS drivers a cold bottle of water, frozen fruit, cold smoothies, ice packs, cold neck wraps, etc. If UPS won't improve the conditions, let's at least help when we encounter the drivers!
Also, less importantly but still important, customers should wonder about the condition of overhead packages, which are sometimes food or even medical supplies in the heat of those trucks.
@@middleagebrotips3454 ok. I checked with someone that I know that orders stuff a lot. They get food delivered by UPD. Sometimes that food has to be kept on ice.
@@juantrujillo6280 I deliver wine and food every day for FedEx ground. Most of the boxes of food are soft because the ice packs have melted. 140 plus degrees will do that to ice.
The union is in on the exploitation. They score a few crumbs here and there to justify their existence while making deals with management to keep things as they are. It's just the HR arm of UPS, nothing more
we do but its useless unless you close the doors, but if you close the doors then our stop count drops drastically because we gotta constantly open and close them. So it turns a 10 hour route into a 12-14 hour route easy, which means we'll get written up.
@@MasterKeyMagic it doesn't take another 2 4 hours a day to finish a route if you have to open and close the door all day. There's no way I'm freezing my ass off in the winter driving around with the doors open. We're talking a matter of minutes added on a day
I’ve never seen a better argument for a worker union. This is perfect Example of corporate greed overriding human beings safety needs. Yes UPS pays well, but they have clearly lost their way when they start putting profits ahead of decency. Shame on UPS, and shame on its stockholders for allowing this.
I pray to God for all of you who are struggling with this heat. As a driver myself, we have ac and super grateful for it, however there times that I get a spare truck without ac and trust me when I say, the heat ain't no joke. Be safe guys
Not to downplay what's happening to these drivers, since what they go through is absolutely horrendous, but 140+ degree heat inside those trucks can't possibly be good for the packages being delivered, either, especially if it's something like perishables. (the dry ice or whatever other insulation can only keeps things cold for so long...) Hopefully these workers can get UPS to cave and finally give them the AC they deserve.
They may not listen to employees, but they might listen to their main product getting damaged. This is absolutely ridiculous, even the most basic vehicle has shitty AC yet a multi-billion dollar company can implement basic AC in their vehicles which is the life blood of the company!
Dude half the refrigerated medical boxes I deliver are ruined from the heat most of the food boxes get thrown out as well. I can't put them in a cooler cause the truck is so blown out with shit i can only fit a cooler big enough for like 6 bottles of water.
this is me last 30 years mowing lawns and roofing and pouring concrete and pushing carts at walmart. Now i fix lawnmowers and still dont have AC in the shop. just a fan. I need someone to put air conditioning in my shop and on my lawnmowers!
I’ve been a package handler for a little over a year now. I’ve been through two summers in the warehouse and this hits close to home. I’ve almost passed out more times than I can count from the heat. And I’m in there before the sun comes up so I can only imagine what these drivers go through on a daily basis!
Assuming that AC doesn't work due to the trucks constantly opening/closing their doors, there's already a solution to this problem. They're called cooling vests, the military has used them for a long time. Of course they decided in most cases that simply equipping their vehicles with AC was a better idea ultimately.
I have a job working for myself. I'll drive 100 miles in a day, and stop upwards of 50 times during that trip of about 6 hours. The air conditioning is ineffective when stopping the car all the time, and do not like leaving it running if I'm not in it. Worse yet, the engine heat pours into the cabin every time I get back in and start driving. Only time it does work is the rare occasion that I have a 10-15 minute gap between stops. I eventually got an EV, the engine heat is pretty non existent, and the AC does actually work when I need it as its not fighting the engine heat.
I delivered in the basement of a mall where the Phoenix sun heated it to 137 degrees. I bought a cooling vest off of Amazon with the extra gel pack for front and back of the vest. They cooled for about 2.5 hours. I would then get my extra set out of an ice bucket (it takes only 15 minutes to charge in the ice water). I was then good to go. My core temperature never went above 58 degrees. It was a life saver. I made the proposal during the proposal meeting in January. It would only cost $199.00 for the vest. Cheaper than A/C. I would like to see A/C but we all know what happens when something breaks down, as A/C would eventually do. They tell us to park it on the wall, and then wait for parts. We would then be forced back to square 1 with no A/C. It would be a better immediate solution, in my opinion. I do not work for this made in the USA company nor am I being paid to tell you about vests. I am a retired 50 year employee and wish to do what I can to make working conditions better and hopefully save lives.. I have added the link to the type of vest I got. There are many to choose from on the website, but I can personally vouch for the efficacy of these vest. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Stay well! M. Nelson. www.amazon.com/Glacier-Tek
Whenever I order from an online merchant, I specify that it NOT be shipped via UPS. Not only is the driver as well as package handlers in hot warehouses being put in danger, but so is my package. Much of what I order specifies it be kept in a cool dry place, not in a hot building and in the back of a 150º truck. If everyone who orders stuff specify their order not be shipped via UPS, it might make a difference.
As a UPS driver I would cry while delivering sometimes because the heat was just so horrible. I had blisters on my thighs from where the sun hit my legs and my shorts rubbed against it. I would suffocate a bit while looking for a package in the back. It was horrible. I was able to go back to the warehouse and now I’m just trying to get a position into management instead
Wow I'm astounded at the fact ups doesn't have ac in their vans. I assumed they did. Prayers to all the hard workers that deliver. I hope yall get compensation for all the days, weeks, years yall have had to withstand the heat. I live in GA and the heat here in the summer is unbearable let alone in the car.
I work for UPS. I can’t speak for other buildings in the company, but we take this very seriously in my building. Every PCM during the summer has a talk about proper hydration. We buy water by the pallets for our employees. I’ve sent people home very recently because they were starting to show signs of dehydration and possible heat stroke. But yeah, our package cars do not have A/C in them. Unfortunately, even if the company decided to change that, it would takes years to upgrade our fleet, even without the current manufacturing issues due to chip shortages. Should that be something that should change moving forward? Yes.
Should have never sent that fleet out without air conditioning to begin with. Saving $185 dollars - but that ain't what it's about is it? It's about the gas mileage you'd be giving up isn't it? I hope the families of the people that die sue you and your shareholders out of existence.
I just started working at UPS about 2 months and some change ago. I currently unload trailers. These trailer can be anywhere from 48 to 60 feet long. It can take half an hour to over and hour to empty these trailers. Especially depending on how old the facility is. We need to put long rollers into the trailer manually as we get deeper into the trailer. During break you can see package handlers dripping on the floor due to sweating so hard. The unloading part of our building has poor air flow and only one large fan that is mostly blocked by the belts. I myself am not adverse to working hard in high heat I have spent years in the ARMY, but I would think UPS could afford to take better care of the people who work so hard every week to make them all that money. We also get those Cool Solutions almost every day. Like people don't know to drink water already. At least the supervisors I have are pretty good people. They often go out of their way to go get water and stock coolers full. They pass them around to everyone and make sure everyone is ok. I'm looking to make a career out of the UPS and being a driver is a goal. Hoping UPS gets the trucks A/Cs.
Get a real career. Not my fault these natural L’s have to work like this. I work in the heat as a landscaper and laborer and I don’t complain. Drink water and be quiet
It's a good career, and keep in the military so you have that pension too. Nothing wrong with the tough life, it separates the glitter from the gold. Take care of yourself, stay healthy for your own good, and remember you are always replaceable just like in the service. Focus on making a good life while enjoying the challenge.
@@pitoketoo2709 hahaha see exactly here you are again on the 3rd comment ive seen from you my god you are so pathetic..such a tough guy watch out hes a landscaper everybody wants you to know so that he feels like a big boy
UPS is only getting away/allowed to do that in the US! I'm Dutch, and here UPS drives in "normal" delivery vans that have all the "normal" bells and whistles on them. Like it wouldn't even be allowed to have those Vans here, with those wide open "doors" and such! It's awful that it's needed to be this specific about working condition laws, but it looks like they need to be, to stop companies from trying to pull this fulishness(?)!
We can't***** be in those small vans here. In NC my bulding runs around 100-200 stops per route and lots of pickups. I do around 120 deliveries a day and 22 pickups. I also have to go back to the building to unload my truck because it gets full, then go back and finish the rest of my pickups and stops. But top tay here is 41.49 so i'm willing to do it for the money
@@BassPlayer9000 I went into feeders for the very you're talking about. I drove package car for 15 years. My body just couldn't take it anymore. My route had 11 to 15 apartment complexes on it depending on how they dispatched me. None of my business stops had docks so I was constantly hand trucking. My UPS store pick up was a nightmare! 2 to 3 hundred packages a day with no dock. I couldn't take it anymore.
Just happened to be listening to this, when I was in the hot mail room. Also the brave mail man was there delivering the mail. I got to talk to him about this. Has never had air conditioning. Extremely dangerous. Gets over a hundred degrees for weeks. Corporate greed comes into play here, apt owners, ticket sellers, oil companies and more. Shame on them!!
I'm ready through these comments and replies, and I am staggered that some people actually believe the drivers are just bitching and moaning, as if the solution is as simple as "find another job." You can tell those kinds of people have never had to work in these conditions, because they wouldn't be speaking out of their ass if they knew what it was like.
Dear ups thank you for your services I will pray that yall get air conditioners for summer and heat for winter because I myself understand that I do things better when I'm cooled off in the heat or warm in the cold weather
Want to know a solution? Report it anyway. Call 911, report it to OSHA. Who cares if you lose your job at the UPS? It's worth it to lose your job if you are reporting the incidents that they are causing.
Here is what I'll say as a UPSer and a Teamster of almost half a decade, the AC issue feels like its being pushed by the company to distract from the rule issues of PVD's, 22.4s, and the decades of lack of pay raises for inside workers which is what the national Teamster platform for the upcoming negotiating contract is. I support UPS having to put AC in the trucks and more robust climate control inside hubs as a demand; however, its very far from my primary one.
@Hec The teamsters are not perfect in any of this. They really seem to only care and RCPDs anyway and shit on everyone else. I am just as pissed at the Teamsters as I am at UPS. As for the PVDs and 22.4s I really dont care and have yet to meet anyone that does in my 150 car center. This is a non issue that the Teamsters wont shut the hell up about. P.S. it was really nice to only work 9-10hr days over last peak and be able to see my family thanks to those "Evil PVDs".
1.) No, the Teamsters are not perfect; however, our union's party leadership has changed. Holding O'Brien accountable for the Hoffa administrations concessions is unfair and idiotic. 2.) I work at the 3rd largest delivery hub in the US, 150 cars is so tiny! 3.) I'm sure it was nice, and the company should have to hire 22.3 positions to cover the peak volume without moving bargaining agreement work out of the union. The choice shouldnt be "allow the union to crumble" or "work 9-10 hours" Either way, hope you stand with us this contract session.
I am a UPS package handler too And recently in Ohio when we had really bad heat weather I was so exhausted working in a hot truck that I felt like I was being cooked in an oven And I threw up in the truck and even though I didn’t know it at the time that it was the first sign of a heat stroke my Boss kept me working until someone else told me to get out of the truck After that they sent me home If they are not going to modernize Like Amazon or FedEx then UPS needs to get the message Give their employees A/C From drivers to handlers to sorters We don’t need anymore deaths or hospitalizations
This is so sad and inhumane. But for me, a customer, it also probably explains why my Apple computer box, delivered off the UPS truck directly into my arms ( I was standing at the end of my driveway) was so EXTREMELY hot that I almost dropped it!
All drivers from 50 states need to ban together and cease all delivery until the company comply with their air conditioner demand. Money and profit is important, but not at the risk of everyone's life. The government needs to put a restriction on how many hours they have UPS work. The delivery drivers are the working force behind keeping the company in business. Without the staff, UPS will go out of business. They need to show their drivers and staff some respect.
I'm going to ruffle a few feathers. Here's my .02 on this whole thing after almost 4 years part time in September. UPS doesn't want any of the heat stroke cases or any death cases reported because it will "damage" their reputation. This "Cool Solutions" program that has been implemented is another way for UPS to discipline their employees. EVERY UPS EMPLOYEE is told to "stay hydrated" and "drink plenty of water and fluids". Not only that, but the part-time employees have to suffer too. Whether it is the inside employee loading the delivery vehicle, or loading an outbound trailer, the part-timers also suffer. The facilities almost always have the overhead doors open which doesn't do anything to keep the facility remotely close to air-conditioned. Safety is never the top priority until production is tampered with. Fun fact: UPS doesn't want OSHA at their facilities. UPS cuts a cashier's check to OSHA as their request to turn around and not come.
145 is hot enough for maillard reaction to happen. It's one of the reactions that happen when you brown your steak, veggies, mushrooms, etc. This situation is inhumane.
Yes, and the burns the shelf gives you looks about the same as a grilled burger for a few days. But you feel like Chuck Norris breaking out of a Vietnamese hotbox each time you exit the vehicle.
I’m in feeders now, but I remember when I was in delivery, back in 2017 I remember having a package of spray paint cans on the 6000 shelf and one of them actually burst from the heat in the back. Gray paint from the can leaked all over the shelf
Will they? Unfortunately things have to get even worse before people truly rise up and say "no more." The system has won...for now. They have everyone making juuuuuust enough peanuts to live off of so that everyone is too afraid to stand up and risk losing those peanuts. So they work in these inhuman conditions because not getting that pittance of a paycheck is worse to them than destroying your body. "If I stand up and say something I'll just get fired. And who knows how long it could take me to find another job. I have rent to worry about, family to feed. Better to risk heatstroke every single day than risk not being able to pay for my kids meals."
UPS is laughing it's ass off at Amazon. The big difference is that Amazon fires people for performance issues, and at least for package handlers at my hub, it's very hard to do.
@Ryan James Your benefits are shit compared to UPS. People believing like you do is why pay and benefits have been declining for decades. Do you really think you can match strength with an employer? Tbh, you sound like a propagandist.
Amazon has ac but we can’t leave our vans running. The back areas of our step vans get just as hot, I know ups has it worse but I think every single delivery company needs to care about us delivery drivers
As a package handler at UPS I know the feeling. Tbh it makes me angry when corporate comes by and critiques us on shit but won’t realize the working conditions need to change. They made two loaders redo an entire trailer that consisted of close to 1K packages all due to some of the walls being bad. They came in on the hottest day we had in Michigan which I believe was around 100+ degrees in the building. The hot metal trailers that sit out in the yard accumulate all that heat and it’s a major safety concern when we’re loading thousands of packages. Ice water and other forms of cooling can only go so far. Yes drivers are allowed to put fans in their trucks as most do in my warehouse, but corporate needs to make changes. Either that or all inbound and outbound workers need a massive pay bump. I personally haven’t had issues with the heat bc I’m used to that weather but I’ve seen coworkers pass out, throw up, hurt themselves from condensation being built up causing slippery floors. I’m only at the job for the benefits.
Would love to know what location. My son works as package handler as well . He says in the winter it’s hot- can’t imagine the middle of our hot humid summers .💔
@@Just_a_Mom53 I work at the hub in Grand Rapids, MI. It's definitely not fun going through it. Drinking ice water and carrying around mini portable fans or ice packs are like the best thing we can do to withstand heat exhaustion.
I just left my UPS job due to unorganization and chaos. They don't want anyone to work, send you home. No flow of air and locks on freezers for their Popsicles for overheating. Crazy.
I’m a package handler for UPS and I understand this I have had multiple heat strokes in bathrooms of my warehouse afraid that I’d lose my job if I told management and I’ve thrown up in my truck while loading multiple times
I also work in the heat so I can relate what these drivers feel. There’s no relief at all during the hot weather. I set up a cooling station for my team and my boss made me take it down because he said it looked like a homeless shelter. I have been requesting a ac trailer since I started working at this place and still nothing. The management team don’t care because they don’t have to deal with it.
Wrong! Educated but this job doesn’t offer relief from the heat. You are obviously a inside only person. A sissy can’t relate what a real man does. I bet your a florist! Haha.
@@pitoketoo2709 @marty joseph you and this other JERK are probably running UPS with you lame responses! Shut Up! How DARE you say these things in light of people dying!!!
Recently, I had a UPS delivery driver deliver a package to me who was DRIPPING with sweat!! I had seen the Inside Edition video and I gave him water. He was so thankful. 😢
These delivery ppl deserve a lot of respect but it's so weird that UPS and other major shipping companies don't install ac just doesn't make sense. Even some fans would be nice
Just to be clear, from an old ups worker…. The 10-14hour shifts are given to seasoned or full time employees ( to be full time, you have to had been working there for at least 3 years if not more), and they just started letting people just come in as drivers, you used have to be a vet to get there. Former employee OutB7 Hodgkin, IL
UPS's drivers are fortunate that Teamsters have new leadership. The prior leaders - when dealing with UPS - were go along to get along and you rub my back and I will rub yours. Term limits for elected union leaders might be helpful.
This is ridiculous man I feeel so bad for these drivers man there serving our community there doing something for the public and these people are paying the price it’s crazy man this is why I can’t work for companies like Amazon or fedex because they don’t care about your well being
Force a few of the top suit and tie guys to deliver packages in Arizona in the dead of summer, and see how well they do without their a/c. Bet The top suit and tie guys have AC in their office.
I work as a package handler at ups and man those fuckers pushed us on that one week it was 90+ in Chicago. I ended up having a stroke due to the heat on wed I believe which was the hottest day of the week. Loading trailers all day hella packages coming your way. I thought I was a somewhat healthy 19 yr old also did hs sports but nah nobody safe here they really got no consideration of what we feel when working in those conditions. It’s scary how you can quickly collapse.
I worked for large company with same truck, you can not have AC there is no insulation and your constantly opening doors. Alot of drivers also drink sodas instead of water. You can't bring your own water to work? I had a 2 gal. Jug . They can put in misters in truck. It's a hard job working in the heat, I did it 30 yrs.and got heat stroke several times working long hours, and these men are working too many hours, that is the problem!
I’m glad to hear that they are going to take a stand. I bet if they all stop driving all on the same day all at the same time I bet UPS will figure it out. One to seven days will shut them down and they will lose millions of dollars so shut them down. People need to realize that we have the power.
Here in 🇨🇦 i asked my mailman if he has AC & he said no - in addition to that he said they are instructed to keep their doors closed while driving for safety, so their vehicles get extra hot - granted it’s not as hot here as in the southwest but still it gets pretty hot and humid
When I first started at UPS, no trucks had power steering either. Was told the company sold the power steering backto the manufacturer for a discounted rate for the trucks. UPS told the Teamsters that each employee would have to except a $5.00 cut per hour for AC.
UPS is an exhausting and exploitative workplace. i love my job, my coworkers, my union, my healthcare. but between the drivers facing these kinds of temperatures in the PCs, part timers destroying their shoulders and backs in the hubs, the massive influx of e-commerce since the pandemic started, etc. things are just entirely too stretched thin. ive worked in the hub for over 2 years now and ive never been without water but our ice machines are often either broken down for just empty because there are only a few of them for the HUNDREDS of people it takes to staff a Los Angeles UPS hub. i show up to work at 4:15am every day and its typically 85-90 in the hub already, because its a massive concrete and metal box that only has AC in the desk jockeys offices. i work part time and make $1.65 above minimum wage, i cannot afford my bills, i cannot afford to move out of my dads house. but because of thee inconsistent start and end times and the DOUBLING of my hours between november and february makes it incredibly hard to find a second job without having to quit before the holidays and find new work after
I thought you guys had a union at AT&T we have CWA techs make good pay. I left hears ago but last time construction and outside techs earned $30 an hr.
@@briang.7206 i know i only work part time but it’s intense, hot, hard work that has a serious learning curve and we deserve to be compensated for it. it doesn’t make much sense to me that we work just as hard as drivers but make so much less than them (drivers top pay is somewhere around $39-41 i believe). it’s a big thing that sean o’brien the president of the teamsters is pushing for. i’m crossing my fingers that this time next year i’ll be signing a contract that bumps my pay to at least $20/hr. i currently make $16.65.
Just wait till these guys hear about the loaders LMAO. In summer you have to chug water at all times or you will straight pass out from dehydration cause its much more physically demanding and nearly as hot since the flatcar trailers are exposed to sunlight outside the building. It's practically a solar oven where you have to be constantly moving inside
FACTS lol i unload and i was so blocked in by incompatibles i couldnt get to my water and my tongue was turning a different color lmao. FedEx wasnt even that bad.. oof
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As a FedEx driver AC helps dramatically even if you stop every 60s.
Cause the car is on all the time even when you stop so the ac is always cool
@@naegleriafowleri2230 it’s not always on. It’s policy to turn off the van, take the keys, and lock the it up whenever you deliver a package.
@@LanceDango I need to start paying attention to stopped trucks, I don't remember seeing this often but to be fair I don't remember seeing either actually.
Of course it does. Corporate saying that it doesn't says a lot what their priorities are.
Fed ex can keep their trucks running at each stop though...ups drivers have to turn them off but it still might help a little. It would definitely help to have it in the back....the back turns into an oven
I'm UPS employee, and not just the drivers are having a rough time, but package handlers as well. The heat will kill you if you're loading in a trailer depending where you work at. Some building don't offer fans to point in a trailer, and sometimes the trailers that bring in from outside of the building, and they're sitting in the heat. Also... To keep on a side note. Our UNION doesn't help us and maybe that's just where we're located, but the UNION near doesn't care to take any of our calls, or come down to ask what we think, or to make up a meet up for a closer location. They want all of us to drive 2 hours to sit for a meeting. Depending where you live some areas that UNIONS are at don't care.
Package handler for 10 yrs. It’s an extremely hard job and not many people can do what we do on a daily basis. We literally hire 25-50 new hires a month because the jobs such hard work after just a few hrs in the warehouse people quit. Drivers and package handlers deserve better pay especially the amount of profits this company is racking in! Oh and about the union…they don’t do anything anymore for us like the stories I heard from older drives or workers who’ve been working there 30+ years. Before it was a good thing to join now there almost no point especially if the location your at doesn’t care.
@@Dustygoodz high Hope's for sean o'Brian. If nothing changes next contract I'm out.
I couldnt imagine being a package handler somewhere like Arizona or Vegas. Socal hot enough
Yup. I used to be a part time supervisor/trainer for outbound overnight. The turnover rate is over 100 percent. New hires do not last 5 days. Someone passes out everyday because of heat.
Nobody cares. I can say that with confidence. The "safety" office are looking out for their bottom line and every injury is a hit to their bonuses and lame ass "pizza" fridays that if you eat pizza you will feel like shit no matter the weather. The fans are 20 years old and you have to stand directly in front of the fan to get air flow in a 52 foot trailer were packages are falling all over the place. If ita 100 degrees outside its 120 in the trailer. UPS sucks.
Unions are a joke of what they once were.
Now they just take your money and laugh in your face.
I use to be a UPS package handler/loader and I can 100% that UPS does not care at all!! They care so much more for progress and numbers and I’ve almost passed out myself due to sweating so much and having to go so fast. I quit five months ago and I hope something changes
Fr, i used to do it as well, i worked in a really old ups warehouse that had no A.C. and barely even had fans. Could only work there for a month. They were pretty sketcky about paychecks too, the checks often seemed lower than normal and when we asked our supervisors about it they blamed it on computer error.
In a society where even medicine is business, what do expect?
Nothing will change for warehouse workers.
These are all evil corporations. You guys need to fight for your rights!
I used to drive for UPS and can attest that the drivers work hard and Management is evil. Most exploitative management I ever worked for, which is a shame because the company works miracles on a daily basis and I was proud to be a part of it. But nothing is good enough for their managers who buck for promotion by showing how "tough" they can be on employees, who are already working their hearts out.
Damn shame.
Completely agree
That's the way it got at AT&T as managers were not represented by the union and could get the ax at any time. I had one manager that quit as a manager and went back to craft. Another one considered it. I remember one day hearing all the loud yelling as one of our 1st line managers was arguing with the district manager who was a jerk. Managers were getting pushed to produce or they would get the ax.
I’ve been driving for UPS for 22 years. I can say I’ve had my share of poor management, but I have to say, my current management is absolutely amazing. They know we have tough jobs, but so do they. If we’re doing a good job, they don’t get pulled into corporate phone calls getting their a$$ ripped about our performance. While some management definitely has power trip issues, some can also be really good.
Now they’re forcing 6 days a week. I move like a snail 🐌 and get that money.
Living in the country I appreciate my UPS drivers. I had no idea. UPS should be ashamed and so should stockholders. It is barbaric and inhumane. People get arrested for leaving animals in the heat with no water. What about these fellow human beings who are being mistreated. Get behind the drivers and call UPS. I ship everything this way so I will be voicing an opinion.
Uber eats doesn't pay as much as ups, no benefits but I can take a break when I need to. I wouldn't want to be a delivery driver without the ac and my water bottle and or Gatorade.
Good point Sharon,people get arrested for leaving kids and pets in a hot car.UPS and the Union needs to wake up and fix this issue before someone gets hurt really bad from heat exhaustion.
i just quit yesterday from trying to qualify to be a driver at ups and let me just say it was one of the most stressed out, exhausted ,and demanding job ive ever had. constant 10-14 hour shifts no breaks in a heatwave, and to qualify everyone tells you to clock out on break and keep working so that your numbers look better it is completely and utterly wrong how they treat there workers
our ice machine has been down and broken for over a year and they have stopped supplying water for colorado as well
I bet them checks be looking good tho. That’s the only reason a nigga would risk dying to stay there.
Good I will apply. Stop being a baby and man up smh
@@twodabsdown2413 buy ur own water then??? Apply common sense and stop being a baby
how much was the pay?
Telling someone they're not allowed to call 911 is a violation of their civil rights and the person instructing them not to call 911 is administering Medical advice which is a crime also.
I’m a package handler, unloader, and shop steward. I’m at a point where I’ve decided I don’t wanna drive for UPS, because of not having AC, etc. Been a insider over 2 years.
SAW MY DRIVE PULLING UP - I quickly ran to my fridge and got a huge glass of water with ice. Met him at the door. He was a sweaty mess. He said thanks and downed the entire glass in a few seconds. I feel for these guys. 🥵
Big up to you Eric,we need alot more people like u in this world 👍👊🙂
In those conditions, ice water is not good. U should give him lukewarm water next time. Ice water will damage him.
@@kimlayne1993Are you fucking kidding me, someone just did a nice gesture and you still find something to complain about. I bet you could ask the UPS driver themselves if they would prefer lukewarm water vs. A cold iced water and they would still choose the iced one.
You think a group of millionaires who own this company are sitting somewhere crying about what happen to this guy on his route? No, they're in board meetings laughing and talking about their next vacation or buying their offspring a new home as a graduation gift. Bottom line, none of them care. They've made money off of desperate folks looking for a job that pays good under horrible conditions. The only way that they'll start showing sympathy is if the company takes a nose dive and people start leaving. Then you'll see various videos of them crying and acting concerned. Aside from that, they'll never care.
There are several of us drivers working the heat everyday who own stock and are millionaires.... So your argument is a little soft. But yes, the management doesn't care and I guess more of them are millionaires. Nobody makes anybody work here, we are all free to quit.
@@martyjoseph9507 It's no millionaires that are driving in the heat willingly every day to feel inspired, or because they have nothing else better to do. You can take that make-believe else where. This guy could have passed away from heat exhaustion while the rich are in cozy AC filled offices bragging about their wealth. Knock it off and finish your board meeting Tom.
@@dukeachilles3294 four decades, gotten toughen up if you want to outrun me. Eat a tablespoon of salt at night, makes you replace what you lost. Everybody it doing the same, take care of yourself and lose the victim mentally.
@@martyjoseph9507 Like I told you before Tom, finish that board meeting and before giving out health advice, consult with a legitimate physician about your eating habits. Your blood pressure is probably through the roof with all the salt you've knowingly ingested. Take the rest of that BS to someone who will believe it. I've been on the front line, and NOBODY will willingly do that type of work just because its FUN.
@@dukeachilles3294 ah, you probably like automatic transmissions and power steering. I can see what type of driver you are, go complain about whatever you can. You make a lousy troll, find a hobby more suited for your skills.
I'm a UPS driver. Asking for AC will make things worse. It's best of they back off our OA, and reduce the stops and packages.
I agree
Bro if u know those truck never had AC just quit or buy a fan u can plug litter u can carry iceshe carry ur bottles of water no sean pendejos todas la bolas de UPS
As a former semi trailer truck loader for UPS i can tell you none of this is exaggerated ... supervisors clocked workers loading trucks with a stop watch in hand
Our local must be stronger, we would just laugh at someone timing us. It's meaningless.
Dude I'm a shifter now and I've seen more ambulances coming in my hub in the last 2 years than ever in my 20 year career.
Go back to Mexico if u don’t like it??
I work for UPS as well. I must be very fortunate, because I haven’t experienced any of the horror stories that I read about online, although I know it’s 💯 happened. We had a horrible preload manager when I started, but he was fired within a year of me being hired. I think as a lot of the old timers retire, the ones who did come up and were trained in this type of atmosphere, stuff like this will be dying off as they do. My building has its issues, but I’m definitely very fortunate to be where I’m at compared to what other buildings go through.
Yeah, been clocked for over 40 years. You get used to it. The best is when they watch from a distance, like Jason from Friday the 13th, waiting.
I’m a ups driver this brought a tear the thought of having AC in my truck brought a tear to my eye …. My friend had a seizure due to the heat our center didn’t find him for a hour and half when they walked up to his truck it was a bloody mess they thought he was dead due to how much blood was there
How many more must suffer? Animals get better treatment.If that had happened to a dog you would never hear d end of it,just saying 🤔
Wizard,the ups trucks wasn't built with ac unit installed ? That's d impression im getting
@@nuffrespect1248 I think they get taken out..personally I can’t answer the new ones might be built with out them but either way it would only take 180 dollars to put them in… ups hit record profits last year
@@nuffrespect1248 they get taken out by ups they save roughly 180 dollars from doing it instead of keeping it
Nevada Arizona Texas florida those are worth weather in states if I know get dam hot I will ask for transfer UPS are nationwide or either I’ll quit get another job had better equipment simple
I work in attics a lot in the summer where it's around 130 degrees and the air is stale and full of insulation debris. When I start making dumb mistakes, I know it's time to get out and take a break and cool off. Sometimes I have to wear a full Tyvek suit and full face respirator while up there. It's hard to make yourself even go up there, bc the heat causes your brain to panic and go into flight mode and you have to fight it the whole time. Scary shit
There isn't one company that exists that cares about the safety and welfare of its employees period. Companies allow adverse conditions to exist because it allows productivity to continue flowing and and is all they care about. Employees are expendable and treated like a commodity. If a employee gets injured the first course of action for management is to see how much of the blame can be shifted to the employee to reduce management's culpability.
It’s called capitalism my guy. Profits over people. All hail the almighty dollar
FedEx Cares
You clearly haven’t worked for a good company. I would say corporations are more so corrupt compared to privately owned businesses. Dont generalize every company
@@XxFuZexToxicxX I've been with FedEx for 30 years. Love it!
@@Boncoh EXACTLY
I'm still a UPS employee, working the preload shift (Usually 4AM to 7:30 AM) for revenue recovery, and I have massive respect for drivers. It's bad enough that it's hot in the warehouse, but I can't imagine being out there for 10+ HOURS. I complain about breaking down my body for a measly $250 every week, but the fact that these drivers are risking their LIVES just to deliver us packages that we constantly order online makes my complaining irrelevant. This reason is now why I offer any driver, whether it's a doordash dasher or any other delivery service that comes to my house, a cold bottle of water, and even then I'd give them two bottles; because I picture myself being in their shoes. I've also worked as an unloader, and wanted to be a driver, glad I dodged a bullet there. You think being in a trailer for about an hour and a half or 2 is bad? Again, think about the people being in the heat for over 10 hours every. single. week. Again, huge respect to these drivers risking their lives for making sure we get our packages; we don't get paid enough for what we go through, inside or outside the warehouse.
All these UPS drivers be the same people talking about college a waist of time and money 🤣🤣 now look at y’all
@@jgonz1178 I don't know about that since I'm not a driver but I'm only there for the money, some benefits, and some chill workers, including one of my supervisors. Me personally, I'm going to college to get something under my belt to get into the more bigger/successful jobs out there.
@@MegaExo this guy is going around trolling people on every comment. Probably got fired from that shitty job we got 😂
@@jgonz1178 Jokes on you Gonz!!! Not UPS drivers on their opinion about college.By the way it's spelled "Waste" not "Waist"as you put it.So much for your argument on college yeah!!!
@@deannasoulpunk 😄😄😄🤔
Prisoners have air conditioning, but UPS drivers can’t. SMH
Prisoners do not have air conditioning. I know someone in a Texas prison. They are dying there.
Actually man prisoners don’t have ac. A few of them died in Texas prison from heat exhaustion
Unbelievable. This should be considered neo-slavery. This is what happens when unregulated, corporate capitalism runs wild.
You can say this again. If the CEOs had to experience this for 1 hour, things would change dramatically.
The CEO will never admit to anything .
Doing so would be acknowledging that climate change has some real world implications . To deny these truths is their mission . Ultimately they simply don't give a shit about their employees . To them they are like foot soldiers that get sacrificed for the next earnings report battle on wall street .
Casualties to them are an
Acceptable risk .
It doesn't affect them one bit .
The question now is simply this :
Why would anyone in their right mind want to work for them ?
The judge should make every single one of them do a whole day At the same rate of work
Stop equating this shit to capitalism, it's not capitalism.
It's post industrial Feudalism.
The biggest problem with the left is their inability to grasp the concept of capitalism.
These companies only exist because government regulations prevent competitors from existing.
@@Llynnyia that would not really give them the full taste . Having to go home , meeting the family and 'tasting' what that is like to be at the mercy of uncaring employers . Having to make ends meet while also having to ignore a body that screams for help ........ That might get them closer to comprehending just what kind of sacrifice they demand from their employees .
I agree that capitalism per say is not the problem . If only it could be compassionate instead of purely greed driven . Why not reinvest the profits into the wellbeing of the employees instead of faraway investors that simply couldn't care less about how the profit margin is generated .
Highly motivated workers are the best thing that could happen to an employer . Intimidated, frustrated workers are more accident prone . The overall work environment quickly turns toxic when workers feel misunderstood , unappreciated , bullied , underpaid ........
I retired from the USPS. Believe me it's the same way. Those LLV's get up to over 120 degrees inside even with that worthless 8 inch fan. Makes it like a microwave oven inside. They don't want you to roll down your windows if you are on a Walking Route using these Vehicles. Supervisors and Postmasters give you an extra 2 hours of Overtime in the extreme conditions all the time amd this makes you be out there for 10 hours. They could at least bring you out some Ice Water. They don't care. They are in their Air Conditioned Office. Thank goodness for some of my great customers who would be there waiting for me to give me a Cold Drink.
All out vehicles had water jugs we filled them with ice before leaving the yard.
Just for saying that I'll start doing the same.
USPS in Phoenix almost killed my GF with this BS and she still has issues over 10 years later. We tried to get her to grieve it but she refused. smh
I bet u r glad u retired from all dat heat wave
@@rickb3650 She should listen to you and go ahead and do a grievance.That's how change come about.Does someone have 2 pass out and die b4 we see change🤔
Let's band together as a nation. As much as we are able, give UPS drivers a cold bottle of water, frozen fruit, cold smoothies, ice packs, cold neck wraps, etc. If UPS won't improve the conditions, let's at least help when we encounter the drivers!
Also, less importantly but still important, customers should wonder about the condition of overhead packages, which are sometimes food or even medical supplies in the heat of those trucks.
chocolates, it's all chocolates.
@@middleagebrotips3454 ok. I checked with someone that I know that orders stuff a lot. They get food delivered by UPD. Sometimes that food has to be kept on ice.
Someone told me that their wine membership told them we won't ship it if it's over 100° I told them everything gets delivered every day no exceptions
@@juantrujillo6280 I deliver wine and food every day for FedEx ground. Most of the boxes of food are soft because the ice packs have melted. 140 plus degrees will do that to ice.
I’m glad that some of this is getting shown to the public considering we’re in a contract year and hopefully some of this shit will change.
I will gladly carry a sign for the union!
The union is in on the exploitation. They score a few crumbs here and there to justify their existence while making deals with management to keep things as they are. It's just the HR arm of UPS, nothing more
Had a UPS lady, ask me if she could use my hose...then she dowsed herself...then drove off. Yikes
Many times ... Also went swimming in my uniform when near a lake or pool. Just gotta do whatever makes you smile.
Retired after 28 years at UPS. Left the first day I was eligible.
Their order purposely delete the air conditioning to save 185 bucks per 100K truck? EVIL
Oh the stories we could add to that to make it look small. It's comical, I wish I had started writing it all down decades ago.
Do they have heat in the winter? The lack of door is disturbing!
Yes, the trucks have heat for when it's cold. We keep the doors open to have air flow, but there are definitely doors.
we do but its useless unless you close the doors, but if you close the doors then our stop count drops drastically because we gotta constantly open and close them. So it turns a 10 hour route into a 12-14 hour route easy, which means we'll get written up.
They do have heat. And they have doors on both sides.
@@MasterKeyMagic it doesn't take another 2 4 hours a day to finish a route if you have to open and close the door all day. There's no way I'm freezing my ass off in the winter driving around with the doors open. We're talking a matter of minutes added on a day
@@amd1273 Do you have a route where if u dont finish an area before you have to go do pick ups, then you have to drive all the way back? in traffic
I’ve never seen a better argument for a worker union. This is perfect Example of corporate greed overriding human beings safety needs. Yes UPS pays well, but they have clearly lost their way when they start putting profits ahead of decency. Shame on UPS, and shame on its stockholders for allowing this.
As a package handler I really feel for them, its easily over 100 in those trailers
I pray to God for all of you who are struggling with this heat.
As a driver myself, we have ac and super grateful for it, however there times that I get a spare truck without ac and trust me when I say, the heat ain't no joke.
Be safe guys
The key is to ignore management and keep yourself healthy and safe, that's what I did.
Bam!!! Exactly this. Let them scream like the little kids they are.
There's no amount of money worth dying for.
There's no company or union worth working for
Not to downplay what's happening to these drivers, since what they go through is absolutely horrendous, but 140+ degree heat inside those trucks can't possibly be good for the packages being delivered, either, especially if it's something like perishables. (the dry ice or whatever other insulation can only keeps things cold for so long...) Hopefully these workers can get UPS to cave and finally give them the AC they deserve.
They may not listen to employees, but they might listen to their main product getting damaged.
This is absolutely ridiculous, even the most basic vehicle has shitty AC yet a multi-billion dollar company can implement basic AC in their vehicles which is the life blood of the company!
Dude I've seen entire trailers burn down to the ground at UPS. The excuse was static electricity caused something to ignite.
Candles are the best, and the oysters that were at the end of a 13 hour day.
Dude half the refrigerated medical boxes I deliver are ruined from the heat most of the food boxes get thrown out as well. I can't put them in a cooler cause the truck is so blown out with shit i can only fit a cooler big enough for like 6 bottles of water.
@@thes.k.eletonhunter7951 can’t not can
this is me last 30 years mowing lawns and roofing and pouring concrete and pushing carts at walmart. Now i fix lawnmowers and still dont have AC in the shop. just a fan. I need someone to put air conditioning in my shop and on my lawnmowers!
I’ve been a package handler for a little over a year now. I’ve been through two summers in the warehouse and this hits close to home. I’ve almost passed out more times than I can count from the heat. And I’m in there before the sun comes up so I can only imagine what these drivers go through on a daily basis!
as a ups share holder i got 18 cents for my 1 share last year after i paid $175 for it. so im still waiting for my millions
As a UPS driver i support this message!
why stay when you can join the competition that provides AC dont make sense either way to me
Saddest thing is UPS has a Union!
Wow this is insane! They seriously won't put AC in the trucks?? How cheap and greedy can you be??
185 savings per truck over 100000 trucks is a lot of money for stock buybacks you know?
@@middleagebrotips3454 who cares? it's inhumane
Get a real career then??? They have a easy job why they complaining. Drive around all day and deliver packages. It’s not rocket science geez.
@@pitoketoo2709 lock yourself in a vehicle in the sun for an hour or two, go ahead, I dare you.
@@michah321 no I’m not stupid why would I do that????
Assuming that AC doesn't work due to the trucks constantly opening/closing their doors, there's already a solution to this problem. They're called cooling vests, the military has used them for a long time. Of course they decided in most cases that simply equipping their vehicles with AC was a better idea ultimately.
I have a job working for myself. I'll drive 100 miles in a day, and stop upwards of 50 times during that trip of about 6 hours. The air conditioning is ineffective when stopping the car all the time, and do not like leaving it running if I'm not in it. Worse yet, the engine heat pours into the cabin every time I get back in and start driving. Only time it does work is the rare occasion that I have a 10-15 minute gap between stops. I eventually got an EV, the engine heat is pretty non existent, and the AC does actually work when I need it as its not fighting the engine heat.
@@mattcintosh2 im sure every fed ex driver complains about having ac too
I delivered in the basement of a mall where the Phoenix sun heated it to 137 degrees. I bought a cooling vest off of Amazon with the extra gel pack for front and back of the vest. They cooled for about 2.5 hours. I would then get my extra set out of an ice bucket (it takes only 15 minutes to charge in the ice water). I was then good to go. My core temperature never went above 58 degrees. It was a life saver. I made the proposal during the proposal meeting in January. It would only cost $199.00 for the vest. Cheaper than A/C. I would like to see A/C but we all know what happens when something breaks down, as A/C would eventually do. They tell us to park it on the wall, and then wait for parts. We would then be forced back to square 1 with no A/C. It would be a better immediate solution, in my opinion. I do not work for this made in the USA company nor am I being paid to tell you about vests. I am a retired 50 year employee and wish to do what I can to make working conditions better and hopefully save lives.. I have added the link to the type of vest I got. There are many to choose from on the website, but I can personally vouch for the efficacy of these vest. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Stay well! M. Nelson.
www.amazon.com/Glacier-Tek
@@arizonaman02 There's also electric cooling vests, that's actually what the military uses.
Whenever I order from an online merchant, I specify that it NOT be shipped via UPS. Not only is the driver as well as package handlers in hot warehouses being put in danger, but so is my package. Much of what I order specifies it be kept in a cool dry place, not in a hot building and in the back of a 150º truck. If everyone who orders stuff specify their order not be shipped via UPS, it might make a difference.
I was a mechanic for UPS for almost 4 years and I wouldn't tell my worst enemy to work there.
As a UPS driver I would cry while delivering sometimes because the heat was just so horrible. I had blisters on my thighs from where the sun hit my legs and my shorts rubbed against it. I would suffocate a bit while looking for a package in the back. It was horrible. I was able to go back to the warehouse and now I’m just trying to get a position into management instead
Wow I'm astounded at the fact ups doesn't have ac in their vans. I assumed they did. Prayers to all the hard workers that deliver. I hope yall get compensation for all the days, weeks, years yall have had to withstand the heat. I live in GA and the heat here in the summer is unbearable let alone in the car.
I work for UPS. I can’t speak for other buildings in the company, but we take this very seriously in my building. Every PCM during the summer has a talk about proper hydration. We buy water by the pallets for our employees. I’ve sent people home very recently because they were starting to show signs of dehydration and possible heat stroke. But yeah, our package cars do not have A/C in them. Unfortunately, even if the company decided to change that, it would takes years to upgrade our fleet, even without the current manufacturing issues due to chip shortages. Should that be something that should change moving forward? Yes.
Should have never sent that fleet out without air conditioning to begin with. Saving $185 dollars - but that ain't what it's about is it? It's about the gas mileage you'd be giving up isn't it? I hope the families of the people that die sue you and your shareholders out of existence.
I just started working at UPS about 2 months and some change ago. I currently unload trailers. These trailer can be anywhere from 48 to 60 feet long. It can take half an hour to over and hour to empty these trailers. Especially depending on how old the facility is. We need to put long rollers into the trailer manually as we get deeper into the trailer. During break you can see package handlers dripping on the floor due to sweating so hard. The unloading part of our building has poor air flow and only one large fan that is mostly blocked by the belts. I myself am not adverse to working hard in high heat I have spent years in the ARMY, but I would think UPS could afford to take better care of the people who work so hard every week to make them all that money. We also get those Cool Solutions almost every day. Like people don't know to drink water already. At least the supervisors I have are pretty good people. They often go out of their way to go get water and stock coolers full. They pass them around to everyone and make sure everyone is ok. I'm looking to make a career out of the UPS and being a driver is a goal. Hoping UPS gets the trucks A/Cs.
Break, that’s cute here in S.C we don’t get breaks.
Get a real career. Not my fault these natural L’s have to work like this. I work in the heat as a landscaper and laborer and I don’t complain. Drink water and be quiet
@@jordanjackson3817 u act like thats a good thing. Y'all must not really care about yall health because if u did u wouldn't kill yourself for a check
It's a good career, and keep in the military so you have that pension too. Nothing wrong with the tough life, it separates the glitter from the gold. Take care of yourself, stay healthy for your own good, and remember you are always replaceable just like in the service. Focus on making a good life while enjoying the challenge.
@@pitoketoo2709 hahaha see exactly here you are again on the 3rd comment ive seen from you my god you are so pathetic..such a tough guy watch out hes a landscaper everybody wants you to know so that he feels like a big boy
Used to work for ups in a warehouse.they can't even pay their staff the right wages each month.terrible company.
UPS is only getting away/allowed to do that in the US! I'm Dutch, and here UPS drives in "normal" delivery vans that have all the "normal" bells and whistles on them. Like it wouldn't even be allowed to have those Vans here, with those wide open "doors" and such!
It's awful that it's needed to be this specific about working condition laws, but it looks like they need to be, to stop companies from trying to pull this fulishness(?)!
We can't***** be in those small vans here. In NC my bulding runs around 100-200 stops per route and lots of pickups. I do around 120 deliveries a day and 22 pickups. I also have to go back to the building to unload my truck because it gets full, then go back and finish the rest of my pickups and stops. But top tay here is 41.49 so i'm willing to do it for the money
@@BassPlayer9000 but how long does it take to get to top pay and what do they get starting off?
@@lyssanch3096 4 years
@@lyssanch3096 starting here is 21 I think
@@BassPlayer9000 I went into feeders for the very you're talking about. I drove package car for 15 years. My body just couldn't take it anymore. My route had 11 to 15 apartment complexes on it depending on how they dispatched me. None of my business stops had docks so I was constantly hand trucking. My UPS store pick up was a nightmare! 2 to 3 hundred packages a day with no dock. I couldn't take it anymore.
Just happened to be listening to this, when I was in the hot mail room. Also the brave mail man was there delivering the mail. I got to talk to him about this. Has never had air conditioning. Extremely dangerous. Gets over a hundred degrees for weeks. Corporate greed comes into play here, apt owners, ticket sellers, oil companies and more. Shame on them!!
wow people in america making $80k a year have no running water at home or no walmart or gas station in their town?
I am a package handler for UPS and I will be participating. We had multiple people faint this summer and quit because it is just so dangerous.
Were they healthy individuals hydrating properly ? Or are they neglecting common sense. Sounds like a bunch of dummies complaining
@@gabrieljames3041na, work that job yourself. You'd see how rough it is
Worked for UPS for four years. So glad I quit that place.
I'm ready through these comments and replies, and I am staggered that some people actually believe the drivers are just bitching and moaning, as if the solution is as simple as "find another job." You can tell those kinds of people have never had to work in these conditions, because they wouldn't be speaking out of their ass if they knew what it was like.
Dear ups thank you for your services I will pray that yall get air conditioners for summer and heat for winter because I myself understand that I do things better when I'm cooled off in the heat or warm in the cold weather
In 2001 our wonderful UPS driver was found dead in back of his truck.I had no idea how hot it gets.This is still happening .Soo 😢
Want to know a solution? Report it anyway. Call 911, report it to OSHA. Who cares if you lose your job at the UPS? It's worth it to lose your job if you are reporting the incidents that they are causing.
Wouldn’t a worker be able to sue UPS if they fired that person in retaliation for reporting an incident?
Are you people that are working for UPS quit fussing about it and quit working for UPS that is the way to stop them
I want UPS to give their drivers those Rivian EV Vans with AC Front and Back.
Amazon only and it isn't big enough for ups packages.
@@MiguelRPD ah c’mon. Anything is possible.
@@aterventypityp ups step vans are packed to the brim unlike Amazon's step vans (I drive one).
Rivians trucks are already falling apart. No thanks lol
This breaks my heart 💔🙏. These guys work so hard!! Please take care of them 🙏🙏🙏
Here is what I'll say as a UPSer and a Teamster of almost half a decade, the AC issue feels like its being pushed by the company to distract from the rule issues of PVD's, 22.4s, and the decades of lack of pay raises for inside workers which is what the national Teamster platform for the upcoming negotiating contract is. I support UPS having to put AC in the trucks and more robust climate control inside hubs as a demand; however, its very far from my primary one.
what do u mean by the issues with pvds? I was one last season so I'm curious.
@@Alex-w3t6r PVDs are a direct attack on the union by transitioning bargaining agreement work to non-union workers.
@@Alex-w3t6r I dont blame you as a person, but PVDs are categorically stealing union work.
@Hec The teamsters are not perfect in any of this. They really seem to only care and RCPDs anyway and shit on everyone else. I am just as pissed at the Teamsters as I am at UPS. As for the PVDs and 22.4s I really dont care and have yet to meet anyone that does in my 150 car center. This is a non issue that the Teamsters wont shut the hell up about. P.S. it was really nice to only work 9-10hr days over last peak and be able to see my family thanks to those "Evil PVDs".
1.) No, the Teamsters are not perfect; however, our union's party leadership has changed. Holding O'Brien accountable for the Hoffa administrations concessions is unfair and idiotic.
2.) I work at the 3rd largest delivery hub in the US, 150 cars is so tiny!
3.) I'm sure it was nice, and the company should have to hire 22.3 positions to cover the peak volume without moving bargaining agreement work out of the union. The choice shouldnt be "allow the union to crumble" or "work 9-10 hours"
Either way, hope you stand with us this contract session.
I am a UPS package handler too
And recently in Ohio when we had really bad heat weather
I was so exhausted working in a hot truck that I felt like I was being cooked in an oven
And I threw up in the truck and even though I didn’t know it at the time that it was the first sign of a heat stroke my
Boss kept me working until someone else told me to get out of the truck
After that they sent me home
If they are not going to modernize
Like Amazon or FedEx then UPS needs to get the message
Give their employees A/C
From drivers to handlers to sorters
We don’t need anymore deaths or hospitalizations
This is so sad and inhumane. But for me, a customer, it also probably explains why my Apple computer box, delivered off the UPS truck directly into my arms ( I was standing at the end of my driveway) was so EXTREMELY hot that I almost dropped it!
All drivers from 50 states need to ban together and cease all delivery until the company comply with their air conditioner demand.
Money and profit is important, but not at the risk of everyone's life.
The government needs to put a restriction on how many hours they have UPS work.
The delivery drivers are the working force behind keeping the company in business. Without the staff, UPS will go out of business.
They need to show their drivers and staff some respect.
I'm going to ruffle a few feathers. Here's my .02 on this whole thing after almost 4 years part time in September.
UPS doesn't want any of the heat stroke cases or any death cases reported because it will "damage" their reputation. This "Cool Solutions" program that has been implemented is another way for UPS to discipline their employees. EVERY UPS EMPLOYEE is told to "stay hydrated" and "drink plenty of water and fluids". Not only that, but the part-time employees have to suffer too. Whether it is the inside employee loading the delivery vehicle, or loading an outbound trailer, the part-timers also suffer. The facilities almost always have the overhead doors open which doesn't do anything to keep the facility remotely close to air-conditioned.
Safety is never the top priority until production is tampered with.
Fun fact: UPS doesn't want OSHA at their facilities. UPS cuts a cashier's check to OSHA as their request to turn around and not come.
145 is hot enough for maillard reaction to happen. It's one of the reactions that happen when you brown your steak, veggies, mushrooms, etc. This situation is inhumane.
Yes, and the burns the shelf gives you looks about the same as a grilled burger for a few days. But you feel like Chuck Norris breaking out of a Vietnamese hotbox each time you exit the vehicle.
If I didn’t know that these were UPS employees, I’d think that they were prisoners given a hard labor sentence.
Man you know how much these Foos make? If you can't handle it find a different job.
@@hankhill6469 If I can’t handle it? I’m not a UPS employee.
I’m in feeders now, but I remember when I was in delivery, back in 2017 I remember having a package of spray paint cans on the 6000 shelf and one of them actually burst from the heat in the back. Gray paint from the can leaked all over the shelf
One day people will stop taking it from these companies
Will they? Unfortunately things have to get even worse before people truly rise up and say "no more." The system has won...for now. They have everyone making juuuuuust enough peanuts to live off of so that everyone is too afraid to stand up and risk losing those peanuts. So they work in these inhuman conditions because not getting that pittance of a paycheck is worse to them than destroying your body. "If I stand up and say something I'll just get fired. And who knows how long it could take me to find another job. I have rent to worry about, family to feed. Better to risk heatstroke every single day than risk not being able to pay for my kids meals."
I worked seasonal for ups as a feeder driver & I ran for the hills & I’m happy I did
Wow I didn't think a company could be worse than Amazon.
UPS is laughing it's ass off at Amazon. The big difference is that Amazon fires people for performance issues, and at least for package handlers at my hub, it's very hard to do.
dude you gotta look up walmart
@Ryan James Your benefits are shit compared to UPS. People believing like you do is why pay and benefits have been declining for decades. Do you really think you can match strength with an employer? Tbh, you sound like a propagandist.
Amazon has ac but we can’t leave our vans running. The back areas of our step vans get just as hot, I know ups has it worse but I think every single delivery company needs to care about us delivery drivers
As a package handler at UPS I know the feeling. Tbh it makes me angry when corporate comes by and critiques us on shit but won’t realize the working conditions need to change. They made two loaders redo an entire trailer that consisted of close to 1K packages all due to some of the walls being bad. They came in on the hottest day we had in Michigan which I believe was around 100+ degrees in the building. The hot metal trailers that sit out in the yard accumulate all that heat and it’s a major safety concern when we’re loading thousands of packages. Ice water and other forms of cooling can only go so far. Yes drivers are allowed to put fans in their trucks as most do in my warehouse, but corporate needs to make changes. Either that or all inbound and outbound workers need a massive pay bump. I personally haven’t had issues with the heat bc I’m used to that weather but I’ve seen coworkers pass out, throw up, hurt themselves from condensation being built up causing slippery floors.
I’m only at the job for the benefits.
Would love to know what location. My son works as package handler as well . He says in the winter it’s hot- can’t imagine the middle of our hot humid summers .💔
@@Just_a_Mom53 I work at the hub in Grand Rapids, MI. It's definitely not fun going through it. Drinking ice water and carrying around mini portable fans or ice packs are like the best thing we can do to withstand heat exhaustion.
I just left my UPS job due to unorganization and chaos. They don't want anyone to work, send you home. No flow of air and locks on freezers for their Popsicles for overheating. Crazy.
They wouldn’t make 42 an hour with EXCELLENT benefits for the employee and family if they really didn’t care.
I’m a package handler for UPS and I understand this I have had multiple heat strokes in bathrooms of my warehouse afraid that I’d lose my job if I told management and I’ve thrown up in my truck while loading multiple times
I also work in the heat so I can relate what these drivers feel. There’s no relief at all during the hot weather. I set up a cooling station for my team and my boss made me take it down because he said it looked like a homeless shelter. I have been requesting a ac trailer since I started working at this place and still nothing. The management team don’t care because they don’t have to deal with it.
Don’t be a hero and set up AC units. Just do ur job and listen to management understand?? Not my fault u have no education
Wrong! Educated but this job doesn’t offer relief from the heat. You are obviously a inside only person. A sissy can’t relate what a real man does. I bet your a florist! Haha.
@@pitoketoo2709 shut up!
@@pitoketoo2709 @marty joseph you and this other JERK are probably running UPS with you lame responses! Shut Up! How DARE you say these things in light of people dying!!!
@@pitoketoo2709 shut up. What a stupid thing to say. I guess that education didn't really help you much.
Recently, I had a UPS delivery driver deliver a package to me who was DRIPPING with sweat!! I had seen the Inside Edition video and I gave him water. He was so thankful. 😢
These delivery ppl deserve a lot of respect but it's so weird that UPS and other major shipping companies don't install ac just doesn't make sense. Even some fans would be nice
Most of the trucks have fans in the cab
They blow hot air
Just to be clear, from an old ups worker…. The 10-14hour shifts are given to seasoned or full time employees ( to be full time, you have to had been working there for at least 3 years if not more), and they just started letting people just come in as drivers, you used have to be a vet to get there. Former employee OutB7 Hodgkin, IL
I'll pray for the workers. Also pray for a/c in the trucks.
It's amazing they don't spend $185 per truck for AC. Ups says those worker's lives aren't worth $185 per soul. God damn.
Why not just quit? Instead of complaining about it? You aren't forced to work 10-12 hours? Just quit and find another job.
Go teamsters!
Number one priority ...Safety!
UPS's drivers are fortunate that Teamsters have new leadership. The prior leaders - when dealing with UPS - were go along to get along and you rub my back and I will rub yours. Term limits for elected union leaders might be helpful.
I'm a USPS employee and we do work in extreme conditions
So do rear load garbage truck drivers
This is ridiculous man I feeel so bad for these drivers man there serving our community there doing something for the public and these people are paying the price it’s crazy man this is why I can’t work for companies like Amazon or fedex because they don’t care about your well being
What do all the unions lovers have to say about this? I’m genuinely curious as to why the unions don’t work
Force a few of the top suit and tie guys to deliver packages in Arizona in the dead of summer, and see how well they do without their a/c. Bet The top suit and tie guys have AC in their office.
My ride alongs get cancelled when we have a dusting of snow, they only come out when it's perfect conditions
How is it that the only unionized shipping company is the only one without this basic need fulfilled?
I work as a package handler at ups and man those fuckers pushed us on that one week it was 90+ in Chicago. I ended up having a stroke due to the heat on wed I believe which was the hottest day of the week. Loading trailers all day hella packages coming your way. I thought I was a somewhat healthy 19 yr old also did hs sports but nah nobody safe here they really got no consideration of what we feel when working in those conditions. It’s scary how you can quickly collapse.
Was the worst job I ever had in New Orleans. I had to quit. It’s unbearable.
I worked for large company with same truck, you can not have AC there is no insulation and your constantly opening doors. Alot of drivers also drink sodas instead of water. You can't bring your own water to work? I had a 2 gal. Jug . They can put in misters in truck. It's a hard job working in the heat, I did it 30 yrs.and got heat stroke several times working long hours, and these men are working too many hours, that is the problem!
Quit they evil
I got a job at UPS 5 years ago. I met a guy in orientation that pretty much had ptsd because a driver died walking into work the day before.
I’m glad to hear that they are going to take a stand. I bet if they all stop driving all on the same day all at the same time I bet UPS will figure it out. One to seven days will shut them down and they will lose millions of dollars so shut them down. People need to realize that we have the power.
Here in 🇨🇦 i asked my mailman if he has AC & he said no - in addition to that he said they are instructed to keep their doors closed while driving for safety, so their vehicles get extra hot - granted it’s not as hot here as in the southwest but still it gets pretty hot and humid
Lmao 🤣 he can’t take the heat!! And name 1 company in America that actually cares bout its employees?? I can name one… “0” zero!!
When I first started at UPS, no trucks had power steering either. Was told the company sold the power steering backto the manufacturer for a discounted rate for the trucks. UPS told the Teamsters that each employee would have to except a $5.00 cut per hour for AC.
UPS is an exhausting and exploitative workplace. i love my job, my coworkers, my union, my healthcare. but between the drivers facing these kinds of temperatures in the PCs, part timers destroying their shoulders and backs in the hubs, the massive influx of e-commerce since the pandemic started, etc. things are just entirely too stretched thin. ive worked in the hub for over 2 years now and ive never been without water but our ice machines are often either broken down for just empty because there are only a few of them for the HUNDREDS of people it takes to staff a Los Angeles UPS hub. i show up to work at 4:15am every day and its typically 85-90 in the hub already, because its a massive concrete and metal box that only has AC in the desk jockeys offices. i work part time and make $1.65 above minimum wage, i cannot afford my bills, i cannot afford to move out of my dads house. but because of thee inconsistent start and end times and the DOUBLING of my hours between november and february makes it incredibly hard to find a second job without having to quit before the holidays and find new work after
I thought you guys had a union at AT&T we have CWA techs make good pay. I left hears ago but last time construction and outside techs earned $30 an hr.
@@briang.7206 we are union but the part time workers in the warehouse start at minimum wage, despite most of us being classed as skilled labor.
@@briang.7206 i know i only work part time but it’s intense, hot, hard work that has a serious learning curve and we deserve to be compensated for it. it doesn’t make much sense to me that we work just as hard as drivers but make so much less than them (drivers top pay is somewhere around $39-41 i believe). it’s a big thing that sean o’brien the president of the teamsters is pushing for. i’m crossing my fingers that this time next year i’ll be signing a contract that bumps my pay to at least $20/hr. i currently make $16.65.
UPS has not cared in a long time
Just wait till these guys hear about the loaders LMAO. In summer you have to chug water at all times or you will straight pass out from dehydration cause its much more physically demanding and nearly as hot since the flatcar trailers are exposed to sunlight outside the building. It's practically a solar oven where you have to be constantly moving inside
FACTS lol i unload and i was so blocked in by incompatibles i couldnt get to my water and my tongue was turning a different color lmao. FedEx wasnt even that bad.. oof