As a dog owner, if you know your dog is aggressive towards strangers and you’re expecting a delivery why in the world would you have your dog out roaming the yard without restraints??? The dog owner should face charges.
reminds me of a quote from borderlands the pre sequel... "my client is gona get what they paid for even if they need to be punch in the sternum while at it".
A dog who bites people who haven't even entered a home, has a bad owner. Bad owners aren't the best at making sound decisions. Therefore, you can see why they wouldn't understand why not securing their dog is a problem.
I guess I can wait an extra day for whatever useless crap I just bought if it means that my fellow American can use a real restroom or not risk lives on the road.
Having the option of paying extra for next day delivery each time you order something is the best way. That way if it is important that you have it tomorrow you will pay extra, if it isn't then you will wait. Everyone is happy. They changed something that didn't need changing.
You only said that because you seen the video. Just choose the shipping at a later date. Amazon has that option so not sure what you trying to say. The option was always there
@@larrymorgan747 here's the thing. If you have Prime because you want to watch videos or only want to pay 1 fixed delivery fee a month, there is no option to select a later date.
@@larrymorgan747 If I'm the only one that chooses that option then we will still have this problem. We, including you, must all decide that quality of life for our fellow brothers and sisters is worth more than whatever junk we ordered on prime today.
As a DSP you're wearing an Amazon shirt while driving an Amazon van and using Amazon software to plan your route on Amazon's schedule. That is not an independent contractor and I can't believe this hasn't been litigated yet.
They are not the only industry using contractors to skirt the system. Also all that stuff you listed actually belongs to the DSP, it is just branded with the Amazon logo.
@@bottomlinebassin2001 Because a lot of industries that use independent contractors operate right on the line on being a contractor and an employee. Many companies have got in trouble for using contractors but treating them like employees. The only reason a company is hiring you as a independent contractor is to benefit them.
That's insane. Why not just hire more drivers so each have fewer packages to deliver and give them a little more time between stops and also just stop with the super strict quota's? I mean I get it, they don't want to have to pay out more money but it would probably help.
@@WhoFlungDung It's not directly Amazon that hires the drivers, it's the third-party DSPs trying to squeeze out all the possibility of each employee .. and Amazon supports it by giving more packages because the 'algorithm' sees the workers "working harder"
@@katchin1514 24 stops per hr isn't that much depending on area. I can average 40 per hour on some days, but that's in UK and we have here what we call terraced houses that I often have parcels for doors next to each other and deliver 10 parcels within 1 min.
@@katchin1514 That is nuts. They're going to have all this bite them in the butt later. Recording contractors every move is unheard of in any industry until now. They are independent so they have no business being in their life other than to hire them to do a job. What an absolute joke. But workmens comp is a well established bias in many corporate cultures unfortunately. And even if they are sued over it, the cost they save for not hiring certain people is greater than the settlements. People need to stop settling cases out of court.
The fact Amazon doesn't directly employ these drivers just says it all. As long as the customer gets their purchase neither Amazon or the customer cares.
But it doesn't matter if you get 1 day shipping or 4 day. The same number of packages still need to be delivered each day. The slower shipping just needs more workers in the middle to store packages waiting for their delivery day, it is less efficient. The total number of packages amazon makes each worker deliver is set by them and has nothing to do with 1 day or slower shipping. Amazon chooses to make each worker deliver over 100 packages a day. They easily could hire more workers, but choose not to.
But they apparently still monitor the minute to minute activities of the DSP drivers even though that would violate one of the criteria for determining if a driver is a defacto Amazon employee or a DSP employee. I would not be surprised to find Amazon inserting itself between the nominal owners of the DSP and the DSP employees related to their supervision..
@@_PatrickO No, having more time makes it more cost efficient. For instance they can bundle the packages more efficiently. More packages in a smaller region. Also the logistics in the warehouse (stocks).
@@stephenmitchell7915 Any smaller company would never get away with classifying people you video monitor 24/7 as "independent contractors". Bribing, sorry, donating to politicians is way cheaper than hiring employees and following employment laws.
Dog owners who let their dogs bite delivery drivers should be red flagged/banned from having packages delivered to their home. They need to lock up their pets especially if they know they are expecting a delivery as Amazon notifies them with ETA.
The main problem is that there’s TOO many packages coming in. For a lot of drivers we do have to pee in bottles because if we try and to find a bathroom we lose time and then we scolded when we bring back packages. Sometimes even written up. Edit: one day shipping should NOT be a thing, seriously.
@@OrwellianNarrator I’m sorry but do you not realize how much Amazon drivers get paid? Lol it’s pennies compared to UPS, that’s why no driver at Amazon cares about your package, but fedex and ups and usps are more careful with your packages
A company that treats its' employees well, need to hire this young lady. She calls a $15. an hour job the best job she ever had. She has no benefits. She is so dedicated, she got bitten by a dog but finishes her shift before she goes to urgent care. She deserves better than Amazon.
@@alexdavis7501 I hope that's sarcasm. People who work their asses off trying to get ahead are NOT sell outs. Would you prefer she has a drug addiction and 10 kids with 10 different men? Would that make her "not a sell out"?
@@alexdavis7501 your a POS! This is this young ladies first job and she is nailing it. Hopefully her dedication will lead to bigger opportunities with Amazon and that she becomes an employee with all the benefits. Her great job 👏 on the job will open many doors for her in the future.
I was an Amazon delivery driver. I lasted 4 days. They tell you it’s a 12 hour shift, but they don’t tell you that you’re expected to be out there delivering until all of your packages are dropped off. I quit before they fired me. And not all the customers are happy to see you. A few times, I feared being assaulted or shot by suspicious men.
Your know all Amazon employees will be out of job in just a few years.. driverless vehicles and automation warehouses will ensure that... good luck finding a job then
I'd be ok with paying $250 for a Prime membership as the gentleman stated, to pay their employees benefits, and treat them fair. It won't be long before a case goes before the Supreme Court, and rules these are employees, not contractors.
@@niceatrya3477 not gonna happen. FedEx ground uses the same contractor model and they've been in lawsuits over and nothing changes. The drivers ARE employees.. they're just not Amazon employees, their employees of whatever contractor they work for
@@davidt1069 I have driven tractor trailer for Fedex Ground for years. The benefits, pay rate, and equipment conditions vary, based on what the contractor chooses to provide for his employees. My Fedex ID badge classifies me as a "Vendor", and states "the holder is not an employee of Fedex Ground". Several years ago Fedex had the contractors Remove the Fedex logo from their tractors, to disassociate them further.
I worked at the airport and we also always had strict time constraints. But we could always report delays such as defects, traffic jams, technical problems or toilet stops in the app, so that no negative evaluation happened to us in the app. Amazon should introduce something like that, everything else is inhumane.
I deliver for Amazon. A lot of people have there dogs on shock Collars and there outside barking there head off at me. The owner is home but they don’t come out. I just leave the package by the mailbox.
Many dog owners are downright bad people, with almost no knowledge about dogs. If I had to guess, I'd say that I am nervous of at least half the dogs I see when out walking, and it's mostly because the owners are obviously incompetent. First red flag: extendable leashes. Never trust a dog on an extendable leash: the owner doesnt' give a crap about other people if they use those things, and they don't care if their dog kills someone because "my dog would never".
It’s not just Amazon, everywhere is like that now. Pharmacy, hospitals, healthcare workers are all suffering with keeping up with metrics set by the corporates cuz it’s all about profits, no longer about safety.
You have no idea how bad it is at Amazon. You work a 10 hour shift, you must work 9.75 hours of it. Non stop. You use the bathroom and it's time off task or "TOT". Use that bathroom enough times in one day and you'll get written up. Enough write ups and you're fired. You might think I'm exaggerating but I was fired four times from Amazon. Once after getting in a car accident and getting a doctor's note saying I couldn't work....
That's becuase business schools teach this mentality to business graduates. My son told me all about it when he was attending San Diego State. He graduated, but he ended up becoming disillusioned by the whole business school ethos, which is to take, TAKE, TAKE, TAKE!!! I raised my son right. He wants to do something that helps people, not STEAL from them, not take ADVANTAGE of them, not ENSLAVE them. He's been working for one of the office supply giants as a corporate sales rep and he ended up becoming their top sales rep a couple of years ago and he said that not only did he bring in the most corporate clients, but then his and all the sales teams' salaries AND bonuses were SLASHED by one-third, and THEN the top brass expected EVEN MORE SALES!!! Corporations ARE evil! They TRULY ARE E-V-I-L!!!
@@cagedtigersteve Maybe... maybe not. If Amazon is so horrible why wouldn't they work for one of the other services instead? Amazon probably was the only one hiring like crazy.
@@Mike__B We don't know if they are or aren't. It might look good for maybe 2 years and then they get tired of being abused and then go to UPS and FedEx. They probably have a high turnover.
Since you're part of a separate company who just so happens to have an exclusive contract with Amazon, Unionizing would be challenging. If a DSP unionizes, Amazon would simply terminate their contract with that DSP and pay for a new one. In order for DSP drivers to unionize, you need to convince the other separate DSPs to unionize as well.
In austin, we get paid more. 19.75 10 hour shifts. Health insurance, dental, vision , 401k matching, and tuition reimbursement, Over time, Pay time off etc
I Worked at a Auto Zone Distribution Center and they treat their employees similar to the way that they treat the Amazon Employees and they don't have a Union. Yeah you're right It's a Reason..... Treat you like Trash / Non Human.
@@vanessabutterfly5142 pretty sure the employee treats Amazon like trash too. Employees want to work as little as possible and get payed regardless of how hard they work.
Amazon will never own up, or take responsibility for things that would be any other employers responsibility. After all, you are still employed with Amazon themselves no whichever way they want to describe your role with them. I would go as far as stating that since Amazon will refuse any responsibility that is clearly there responsibility, makes them not only the most immature, and irresponsible parcel company, but the most immature, and irresponsible company to this day. Yes they are a very successful business, but that's not to say they aren't corporate assholes to the people who are the majority embodiment of their business. Without their drivers, and business partners, Amazon is nothing but an online shopping network. Back to where they began. Hopefully one of these days, someone above them puts them in their place and makes the take responsibility for everything that they are in reality responsible for.
Yup. They claim drivers aren’t their employees yet they literally tell them how to dress, how to speak, how to deliver, and what hours you work. It’s all a facade.
Microsoft doing something similar (employing loads of contractors and subcontractors) led to court battles back in the late 90s. One of the key court decisions was that *indefinitely* employing a person or a group creates a legal presumption that they ARE your employees regardless of how you structure the job agreement or their compensation. As a result, a lot of corporations started following a policy informally known as the "Microsoft rule;" don't employ any contractor or group of contractors for more than 18 months.
To all the people that say "I would rather have my package a day later". You can have your package a day or two later if you just don't pay for Amazon Prime.
I think the point is more that one day shipping shouldn’t exist at all. A single person can cancel their prime membership, but it’s not gonna lessen the driver’s workload when there are still 200 million people with prime
Everything this lady said, all of it is true. If Amazon could shorten the routes, it’ll put less stress on the drivers. Then on another note, these DSP’s you work for, they don’t really fix any problems as simple as a headlight bulb. If they’re so concerned about safety issues, why can’t they fix something so simple. Current DSP driver here btw.
This is not an entrepreneurial work. Amazon wants the driver to pay all the expenses plus break the law to make service times. You are basically an employee with big brother watching your every move. I worked in the freight business for 25 years, and I would NEVER work for this company for any level of pay. These are serious accidents just waiting to happen.
Exactly. Anyone who disagrees with Amazon's policies, pays, expectations should look for work elsewhere. And those who agreed to work for the company, must not complain,unless....someone made them.
@@richardk2495 I will Increase Ordering from Amazon .... LOL... No matter what 5/7 years Later Most of those Jobs would be replaced by Drones and Robots
As a former Amazon DSP driver, I’ll say I’ll never do it again. I remember I went almost an entire shift a few times without eating anything just to make sure I finished a route on time.
@@Pukwudgie_Surprise We’d bring food but it’s a time issue. You don’t get to go home until all the packages are delivered. Sometimes I was on routes for 14 hours.
I have been a full-time caretaker for my mom who's on oxygen and it's very difficult for me to leave her so I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for delivering packages to me cuz it has been the biggest blessing you can imagine
lmao to be fair that was her decision, she stated she would've went back but wanted to finish her shift. Also an urgent care isn't a hospital, if she went to the urgent care because a dog bit her they would've excused that she just didn't want to give her co-workers extra work. I agree Amazon doesn't treat their workers the best, but your argument is not valid at all.
@@johnsalchichon3605 the cognitive on this thread dissonance is real. Has this lady been white instead of black, your responses would be of a more sympathetic tone than callous and blame shifting. People cannot admit that their monsters towards other groups of people for no real reason 😔. Spare me the responses unless you have energy and brain matter to waste. Troll away tolls.
I’m a combat veteran and I also drove for Amazon and quite honestly driving for Amazon was the most difficult, frustrating, and just horrible job I’ve had
Damn I’m a disabled vet myself and thought I could get a nice little income doing it. However I want to not lose my mind as well. Can you explain more about your experience?
@@youtriggeredtherecheesecak2312 not much but I advise to start preload first then work your way into driving that way if you dont cut it as a driver you still have a job and are in the union
I currently work for them now just a summer gig tho before my semester starts. I get around 130-180 stops on average which has about 200-280 packages. It can get crazy but I have learned from other more experienced drivers that organizing your van in the morning when you load is critical!!! Before you deliver. That determines how your day will go, once I got that in check I finish my route way before the time that is needed. My days go fast, no one bugs me, easy money, it’s super chill. I for sure recommend this because it’s an easy job but of course every station is different. I’m lucky mine is filled with super friendly and chill people, I’ve heard other places are way mores strict than ours and they can be annoying.
@@funkydogheadbish4597 they pay BiWeekly, but it’s all Direct deposit & it’s thru an app called ADP so you can always see exactly how much you worked and exactly how much you’ll make.
I bet if the majority of people knew what "one-day" shipping cost on a human level, we'd all be fine with getting out packages in two to three days, like nearly every other major corporation does. I specifically chose the later shipping times to encourage Amazon to do this. Also, people with their freaking dogs, man! You know people are going to be coming to your door. Keep your dogs inside or in a gate! No one should be getting bit by your untrained dog delivering a package.
Yea let your dog bite me, im pressing charges and goodbye Mr.Skittles. Idc, I'm a dog parent too , but I know better and I Keep my dog away when I know company will be here, duh. People like this guy lol ⬆️⬆️⬆️
@@AuroraRae89 you are certainly entitled to that opinion. That said, I would imagine if you did their job for a month, you would feel differently. If we all had the attitude that you should put up with any working conditions just because you “are lucky to have a job”, we still be working in the conditions described in Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle.”
I used to work for Amazon. After I left I made a vow that because of the heavy workloads, the ridiculous route planning, and toxic work environment, that I would never shop on Amazon again.
1)Slaves don't get paid. 2)Employment (of any kind) is voluntary. 3)You can turn down a job or quit a job any time you don't like the terms. 4)You can start your own business and set your own terms.
I just got hired for a DSP. I lasted 2 days, and my body couldn’t take it anymore. I quit after that 2nd day. I have never had to do this before at a job. They put way too much on you. I was going as quickly as I possibly could while still trying to be safe, and they still told me I needed to pick up the pace. Absolutely ridiculous. Do better Amazon.
Usps is even worst with delivering the mail too along with post office package and Amazon package too. New hires aren't getting paid as much or even getting full benefits.
yes, same with UPS and FedEx, that's why not many women take these delivery jobs they are very tough. You have to run back to your truck plus pee in a bottle which I'm not sure how these women do.
I once stopped my driver to ask a question about a weekly delivery I got. Needless to say, he avoided me after that. I never saw him again. He made sure I didnt see him so I wouldnt talk to him. That's kinda sad.
@@thesnoopydance645 i personally am a DSP driver and I can’t say I’d ignore you or avoid seeing you but I’d definitely politely let you know I still have 250+ packages to deliver
I delivered for Amazon through a 3rd party company and I only lasted 4 months. This video addressed a lot of the issues I experience and they're all true. The biggest difficulty for us was delivering in business building, apartments, especially if we're not provided a code to get in. Sometimes the app will have us back track and deliver packages from an area we already delivered at. The route developers really don't have any sort common sense of they're so concerned about time efficiency.
The most frustrating thing was getting like 15+ bags with 44+ overflows. The van use to be so packed that you literally had to throw overflows out just to be able to move to get to the one you needed. They only gave us 10 minutes to load and all 4 carts you have to go searching for. Good luck scanning all those packages in because I use to swipe complete
Your working and guess what? Things don't always go as planned. 4 mos. You never gave it a chance. Maybe ya would of gotten better at the job and things would of improved?? Instead ya quit or got fired. Smh.
@@bdubb5390 lmao huh there are other jobs he can do that are a lot better amazon doesn’t treat you as a human your just a number that’s why they have a high turnover rate meaning more people quit then they hire that’s why they always have hiring events every week they burn out there workers and just get more cause they know it’s always gonna. Be someone desperate cause they need money it’s sad if you haven’t done this job you can’t speak on it I’ve done this and in the warehouse there both Easy jobs but the wear and tear on the body is horrible
@@bdubb5390 And people like you are the reason why it will never get unionized. Why waste time hoping it gets better when they so obviously making sure you to crash and burn.
DSPs are under contract. Quitting would sting Amazon temporarily but they would unquestionably get their money back through litigation, plus inconvenience of the DSP violating the contract.
In June, two Portland DSPs gave up their contracts simultaneously because of Amazon's disregard for drivers' safety during the record breaking heat wave we had. The delivery station effectively lost 155 drivers all at once. It took less than 2 weeks for Amazon to bring in two brand new DSPs. The packages that would have been delivered by those now unemployed drivers were, of course, split up and assigned to the rest of us.
Been saying this for YEARS. Went through 4 different DSPs from 2014ish to 2023. They take one step forward, 10 steps back. I made it abundantly clear when Seattle came down to our station.
If that's the case, nursing needs a union. 12+ hours, restroom breaks and uninterrupted lunches are rare because people don't ever stop calling for you to scratch their nose, change the channel, pull up their covers, bring them a snack, lol.
Last thing that Adrienne said "Maybe things won't get delivered in two days" wow! What a concept. Society needs to stop with the instant delivery, this is foolish
Kids will never believe that mom n dad/granny and papa once used to have retail stores and is how they lived and raised there family's. They'll never believe it
i just started a week ago and i love it. mainly because along my route i have run into some of the most kindhearted people of all time. thank you to all the people that offered smiles and good energy.
I have no sympathy, if its that bad than quit, or like me as a truck driver. I can stop driving if i think its dangerous and they can't make me drive.and cant make me drive faster than I deem is safe!
Fedex and UPS are worst that whole 200 stops is about average in fed ex and with FedEx express you have 10:30am commitment time 3 pm residential and business commitment time 4:30 pm commitment time and 8pm.
I've never heard anything good from the Van drivers. This is coming from a guy who works in the warehouse. Some people like working in the warehouse. I have NEVER heard anyone say they like driving the van.
I heard the Warehouse is far worst than the vans. From what I heard working for Amazon is hard all around but the pay is better than any burger flipping job.
@@cellpat7392 I heard order puller in the warehouse is a total beast! They time you like you are on a game show without the nice expensive game show prizes. Gives a whole new meaning to the term, "Shop till you drop!"
Its pros & cons to both being that ive had plenty wearhouse jobs growing up and now having my cdl. Wearhouse work can get very repetitive and boring while driving may be more pressure on you but you’re days at work will be different each day. If that makes sense lol
Driving the van in fun o use to take my gf with me until the dispatch caught wind and send 3 other drivers to spy on me. Still kept the job even when confronted by da boss
When i worked there you get around 300 packages broken up into around 200 stops. Every single day you haul ass to empty the van just to fill it up in the morning all over again
I know I am late to the party but I have been working as a DSP Driver for Amazon since August and I am in San Antonio, TX and this video is spot on. The main issues we encounter in our area as drivers are wrongly routed/stops, dogs chasing/attacking (I have been bit before), we only get 10 minutes for loadout, upwards of 300-400 packages (especially now in the holiday season), being followed by people since you are in a rental/unmarked van, I take no breaks and still average 8 hours for my route which means if you take appropriate breaks/lunches then you are doing full 10 hour days, typically multiple days in a row, little to no water/snacks provided in the warehouse when there should be, etc. I am currently getting paid &17.50 an hour so take it how you want but that is my experience. I am really only staying because starting in December they are bringing benefits such as 401k and paying off student loan debts so hopefully they don't retract that.
Amazon can only train drivers. Drivers have a responsibility to get packages to the correct places. Sure, hold Amazon responsible, but the drivers have to hold up their end and work at the speed that's possible for them. If they are not fast enough that's on the driver and as someone who was a driver for years and trained drivers I know that most people are not cut out for this kind of work.
@@LilithsCosmicLounge Don't blame the USA, this is a company issue not a USA issue! The founding of the USA has nothing to do with how any individual or organization or company runs their company, its the owners of their businesses choice. #FreeHongKong
They have a uniform, company car, full workload, supervisor (camera) but Amazon calls them entrepreneurs? This does not meet the definition criteria at all. I mean, aren’t all “employees” then contracting their time and labour to their employee. The category has become a distinction without a difference.
They're calling the DSP (delivery service provider aka 3rd party delivery company), entrepreneurs. They're the ones that hire the drivers, pay for the shirts and a hat, and lease the vans. They're the ones Amazon usually blames if there's an accident or something goes wrong.
I am currently a DSP at an Amazon warehouse in Winnipeg, MB, Canada. Everything in this video is SPOT on accurate. From a horrible GPS and route-planning algorithm to dogs attacking us multiple times a day to apartment stops where owners do not give buzz code access, EVERYTHING is spot on. Another HUGE thing that this video does not mention is how hectic it is at the beginning of the day when you load your vans with the packages, Yard Marshalls often yell "Hurry Up" thru their bull-horns and Drivers often do not have time to properly organize their packages so life is easier on the road.
So true . I was a new driver, and they didn't like me bcuz I gave them a piece of my mind at the end of my fist day on the job which was absolutely horrible. They wanted to get rid of me, one day but wanted to use me for loading time first.
I DESPISE apartment deliveries. The customer, 8/10 times, doesn't put the building number/letter in the notes, so we spend a good 10-20 minutes just looking for the building with the unit, and a lot of times, we end up delviering to the wrong unit because it's the same number, but different building. And reaching out to the customer for the building number/letter is almost always futile.
I just literally went through everything in this video daily! I been with Amazon for about 2 years now! To me it’s got a little better but it’s the same concept! I average about 170-185 stops a route! I’m pretty seasoned with how fast to get the route done but if you are like 60-70 stops ahead, dispatch with call your phone to pick up the slack of other drivers! If you are NOT physically and mentally fit, Amazon is NOT the job for you at all! The job is not worth $15-$18 dollars an hour I can definitely tell you that! $25 starting pay with DSPs will definitely get no complaints out of me of what I go through working this job!
You said the Truth. We need more Compassion for these workers that work to deliver what we need. Such as Amazon worker, and Restaurant workers. I couldn't put up with people Foolishness, but they Do. Sooo be Respectful World.
Amazon will NEVER allow the majority of their contractors make good money. They’re monitoring everything. As soon as Amazon sees people finishing ahead of time on a regular base, they’ll increase the work load. A general contractor should never know exactly how much money a subcontractor makes per hour. Deciding how much he thinks is enough for you, and looking for a way he can lower his overhead is a temptation he cannot resist.
When my daughter first started to work for Amazon, she was so excited about her new job they started her out in good areas to deliver at until the next month they changed her route to the gang and the drug-infested areas in south-central LA. She had hundreds of boxes to deliver; her 10 hours turned into 12 hours went into overtime. She started to look tired and dark circles started to show around her eyes. Some of the drivers were getting robbed at gunpoint. I told her to stop working because I didn’t want her to get robbed or killed. They should do a video working in the warehouse for Amazon; they work you like a runaway slave for $15 an hour.
There’s several videos of the horrible conditions. It’s disgusting. I was watching the senate and Bernie Sanders showed that Amazon paid NO taxes in 2020 and got a check from the government for $189,000,000.00. Unbelievable, but true. Sigh…
i currently work for a dsp and all of these complaints are 100 percent valid ! the gps never works , camera docks you if someone cuts you off in traffic , bathrooms breaks or lunch breaks push your route back 3 years .. and to top it off people know they are expecting packages and leave all 37 of their pitbulls outside to greet you soon as you pull in the drive way 😐
"We have over a million workers that are proud of what they do" I haven't met even one Amazon delivery person that has lasted over 2 years in that job and as a delivery driver myself for 3 months now, I'm not even gonna last half a year. This job is hell and whoever says otherwise is just straight up lying.
@@pandamilkshake Can tell you have no idea what I'm talking about. They exist all over Europe. It's your large commercial buildings not houses. LOL!!! You will smell it eventually on any construction site in the world. Can't mistake that smell.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 I don't really like comparing work experiences in addition I do sympathize with you on your roofing job/career but to give you a perspective what it is that Amazon delivery associates experience at least during the summertime on the east coast of the US Amazon delivery associates are dealing with high volume deliveries which are upwards 280 packages and upwards of 170 stops. in addition to you being in a stuffed van, you can expect high temperatures of 85 degrees and up (mind you I'm only speaking for the east coast) so that being said your van will turn into a toaster oven and you will turn into extra crispy chicken (& majority are without AC circulation in the branded or rented vans and the windows only save you if you stick half your body out the window while the van is in motion) we only experience "regular days" during the fall (low packages and possibly low stops) and right after Halloween it ramps back up
@@blackworldtraveler3711 so what's ur point? Its common sense to have an enjoyable job that they can be proud of and have time for things they want to do U must have a slave mindset if u disagree with this
The thing I can't stand is all my friends sit around and complain about how awful Amazon is and they continue to purchase things from Amazon. Bunch of hypocrites that sell their integrity to save a few bucks.
Amazon has the best online shopping platform. That is why I always shop on Amazon, but I BUY on E-Bay or direct from manufacturer. Yes, I often spend more money, but sometimes I actually save money.
That’s better than buying from Amazon and not complaining about the ethics. It’s too useful to stop using. Eventually aren’t they going to replace with self driving cars. Amazon is just proof and an example the monetary systems end up failing the people.
@@FRANCHIS3ENT I wouldnt go that far. Other companies provide good wages and conditions. Countries that dont have a monetary system, cant even afford to buy food, let alone get a package delivered. If people have a problem with Amazon, dont buy goods from them. I guarantee most people complaining about amazon, still use the company to save $3 on postage.
Nah be quiet I’m a rideshare driver and I like being independent contractor. More money for the drivers and the businesses. Less wasted money given to the government. They have to pay employee taxes and then the government misuses that money. And then customers will be charged more. If you’re for the driver, customer, and the company then you should be against the proposals to make us employees. If you’re for more tax revenue and it being misused by the govt, then be against the independent contractors.
@@mikeslemonade You do realise that employers have to pay half of the employees tax in an employer/employee relationship right? As an independent contractor, you have to pay all of your taxes. All it's doing is taking the financial burden away from Amazon and placing it onto the driver.
The drivers aren't independent contractors.... The people who own the company under Amazon itself who sends out the drivers are the independent contractors...
I would add, basically slaves, 18 even 20 dollars an hour isn't worth that with COL today won't get you far. You'd still have to have another job, or another income and forget it if you have kids.
If you work for a DSP, under no circumstances do you EVER finish the route after getting bit by a dog. Tell your boss you need to go to the hospital or urgent care immediately. If something is wrong with you afterwards, they can argue that you were fine and finished the shift that day. Any problem you have physically is probably due to something else; would be their excuse. Even if you don't work for Amazon, NEVER EVER finish a shift after being attacked by a dog, other animal, or person.
I’ve never denied one of my delivery drivers the use of my bathroom or a bottle of water in hot weather. Being disabled and housebound, I really appreciate their service bringing my orders to my door, even bringing really heavy packages inside for me. My life would be so much more isolated and leaving me more dependant on others without them.
@@nieceypiecey100 I suppose I’m lucky that I live in an area that I’ve had the same delivery drivers for years. Some of them I even went to school with their parents. 🤷♀️
@@charlesroberson5154 Working 30+ years in the retail business taught me a lot about delivery drivers. I can spot the good, the bad and the downright disgustingly dodgy as they step out of their vehicle!! I don’t just loan my bathroom to all and sundry, especially if you can smell them walking up to your front door!!
As a Driver, I definitely make sure to put my safety first. So if you’re a dog owner and your dog is hella aggressive when I get out the van, just know that if you don’t answer my calls/texts you won’t get your package that day lol
Your dog doesn't even have to be aggressive. They are nice to you and your regular guests, but at the end of the day, a dog is a dog. They are territorial to strangers in a big truck showing up in their area. It took one incident for me to realize this about owning a dog. That's why when I'm expecting delivery, she's in the back yard behind a fence. Some people are just too "oh my sweet Lilly won't hurt you." Yes they will and yes they can. I don't blame you.
I recently encountered an owner working in his opened garage with his Labrador out. I was approaching the home and projected, “Hello, sir!” The dog came barking at me aggressively (not charging; cause there’s a difference). When that dog did that, (almost simultaneously) the owner said, “He won’t bite,” while I said firmly, “Get outta here! Go!!” The dog backtracked in an unsure manner. Then it tried flanking me and barked from there, but I shifted towards it and said, “Noo!!! Get back! GO!” And I shoe’d it away with my package as I said it, and it retreated…. Still barking at me. The owner’s next words: “Or that works too. 😅” Then he got his package. The way I see it is, if your dog approaches me in a threatening manner or in a way that makes me feel uncomfortable, they don’t deserve to be near me at all. And if your dog charges me, yes I will probably get bitten, but I will make sure your dog gets the message to not mess with me. And that includes injuring it to save my life. Cause dogs are not humans. They’re beasts bent on ending you at that point.
Amazon DSP delivery has gotten better, but it's still a far cry from UPS, FEDEX or USPS as far as accuracy, professionalism, and being on-time. Conversely, you can't get next day delivery as economically than Amazon. Personally, I'm ok with 2 or 3 days as long as it's reliable but society in general is moving towards "I have to have it now" - partially driven by social media's influence.
I honestly would rather just pay more for shipping, and/or wait an extra day and know that my package isn't killing people. Amazon is becoming a grotesque company.
Amazon has always been a grotesque company,along with their stupid customers that don’t support their local retailers. Probably the same idiots that claim they hate the rich then give bezo their business.
I get on average 2 items per year from Amazon, and I get the option for locker pickup at the local pharmacy whenever it's available. It just makes sense to go to the store to pick up your item? Plus it is maybe 20 feet of extra driving to get it along my commute, if I don't bike. I haven't seen what the locker drivers are put through, though.
Well, Amazon didn't get as big as it did without innovation and creativity. Why is everybody whining? This company employs millions of people, without this company, millions would be without a job.
18-25 dollars an hour! Okay, so they contract workers. And your point is? The packages have to be moved somehow, and it's better to have people making a living than delivery drones.
@@justusforrster9264 it will be drones or other solutions eventually. Amazon is preparing for the day they burn out too many people and can't hire enough to replace the people they burn through. It's on a news site if you need a read.
@@justusforrster9264 Job burnout is a real thing. People are starting to value their health over money. It's only a matter of time until Amazon contractors are mentally and physically damaged. Job burnout is something that not even therapy can cure fully.
This is one of the reasons why I keep a snack cart full of beverages, candy, snacks, etc. near the front door of my home all year for delivery drivers and I encourage friends to do the same. It’s the least we can do for those who work so incredibly hard to deliver our orders.
As a delivery driver for Amazon I am very happy and appreciate that you do that we go hours of not taking breaks because we simply don’t have the time I run out of things to drink and snack on then when I arrive to a customer house that does this I feel appreciated and like my hard work isn’t for nothing so I thank you soooo much ❤️
Unfortunately, things will never change. And now is even worse than when this video was published. I'm driving buildings with multiple apartments(In Bonn, Germany), with 250-300 packages. 150-180 stops. After 2 months you're drained, tired and craving for less packages, because you can't handle the physic and mental pressure. All of this is not normal. They're not making a difference between a city and a village. It's not normal. They're not normal. And when you persuade your human rights, you're the bad guy -.- :/ I will be extremely happy to have a regional manager coming with me. It will be fun watching them scared :c It's literally, finding the package while i'm driving, arriving at the stop and jumping with the found package after pulling the handbrake and the car still sliding. Just to be on a schedule. I'm driving for a long time already and i have never seen such a thing.
Does Amazon have actual DSPs in Germany or is it through other agencies like DHL, DPD etc I don't think I've seen an actual Amazon Prime delivery van in Germany.
@@C0UNTL3ZZ Well, people often see the negativities after they start working for like 1 month or something. The first month is always good and with less packages.
I just started last week. I'm only doing nursery routes right now, ( 85 stops 130, packages) and I'm also detoxing from weed , so I'm drained. But I'm anticipating for those crazy routes. We'll see. Oh I'm in CT too.
This is insanity. Getting packages delivered to your door in one or two days is not worth what it takes to make that happen. I try not to order physical products from Amazon, but it has become such a retail monopoly that it’s hard to find many items locally.
Before Amazon, and the Internet as we know it, I used to order from catalogs and their estimated delivery time was between 4 to 6 weeks. If you ever find an old catalog, say from the '80s or early '90s, if it still has its order form inside, you will see that information on the form. And we didn't mind waiting for whatever clothes or devise we ordered.
Why isn't it worth what it takes? All of those drivers do it voluntarily. And I mean, you can avoid Amazon in exchange for mom and pop stores if you'd like, but Amazon employs so many Americans, far beyond just drivers and warehouse workers. It's existence is putting food on so many people's tables.
@@craigape , yeah but those workers need protections and rights. Amazon is a huge monopoly, so much so that it narrows the choices workers have in so many places in the country. There’s also no telling the economic and environmental impact of overnight deliveries, and negative impact on drivers and their families. Like many other people, I’m compelled to buy from Amazon because it provides lower prices than other stores, but that still doesn’t mean that workers shouldn’t form unions and push for protections and rights.
Last year, I worked a for a DSP in Ohio.. for almost a yr.....my paycheck bounced 3x (I was reimbursed all 3x thru CashApp) and several other drivers checks bounced as well.....I loved it so much, I stayed almost a yr()....my particular Contractor(company owner) went Bankrupt....now, I see how all that probably happened.
I’m a software engineering for Amazon Web Services and even we are treated like crap. It’s literally project after project after project, I’m not a robot I’m a human. I left Amazon last year and work for JP Morgan. The salary is significantly less but I am treated like a valuable resource and that’s what I care about
Again another common sense example, a person did not like the working conditions and he left the company and went to work in another. How is that something hard to understand! No one is forcing anyone to work at Amazon or (any one employer), if u don't like the job, just quit.
@@AmrXcellent It's important to understand that most amazon workers genuinely don't have other options or those other options are horrid. I know now at least 10 of my friends who at one point worked for or are currently working for amazon and not a single one had anything positive to say about it and only worked there because they didn't have any other options available to them. It's awful and literally taking years off of peoples lives.
The fact they complained about 113 stops with 180 packages but that’s our learning routes now 😭 we do 150 - 220 stops and 250-400 packages now like what
Great reference. And the bank account of Bezos. I have the same weird feeling with that smile like the "I'm loving it", "Just do it" or "Happiness" of some other big brands... It's a well advertised exploitation machine.
@@stankythecat6735 At least in Las Vegas one would be puking and peeing for better reasons and in the right places and the chances of getting payed decently are higher. Unlike in Las Vegas Casinos, you may even beat the system once in a while... In Amazon, the company and the boss win every time.
As I doctor I was shocked. dog (or any animal/human) bite needs urgent attention because the mouth has all sorts of germs +/- a shots against tetanus and rabies. She has a good heart, personality and work ethic though. I hope she gets a better job soon
@@NyanyiC I hope she gets a better job soon too, but from what I gathered this is the best job she's ever had. There may not be better jobs in her area.
@@yamaharider8014 I want to agree, but I also want people to stop putting their job before their health. That being said, we need a culture that puts health first rather than a culture that fires you for needing a meal break.
I agree, what a joke!! Also, is there anyone that is gonna buy a uniform other than an employee? Are people paying full price so that they can dress like amazon delivery driver?
I guess for the rest of Amazon if you're not working under a good DSP. My DSP hands out branded masks and uniforms for free. We got free shoes of our choice as well and not charged for it.
I work for a DSP in Florida and this is 100% accurate. The gps are all garbage, the routes are planned horribly, they slam you with packages, especially on prime week, they say your routes are based on time and your breaks are scheduled with each route but they pretty much force you to not take a break if you plan on keeping up and finishing in a decent time but then they punish you again by making you do rescue routes so Esther way you aren’t getting done early , the pay is garbage and all you hear are complaints from the DSP about everything from the driving to missed packages or late packages then they wonder why the turn over is so high they over work you it’s not worth it .
I live in an area where one day shipping isn’t even available, and quite frankly, I wouldn’t want it. The stress that it must cause to workers isnt worth it to me. Just to have something a day or two sooner?! No thanks.
Dude it is stressful but I just recently buying stuff from amazon and if the one delivery is when I'm home then I will just take it which is a lot since I'm a sub for daycare so I'm home a lot here!
Fyne Gold Amazon will even give incentives for most items if you opt out of same day or one day delivery. They give you a coupon or gift code for $1 for every one day delivery of you opt out of. It adds up!
I quit as well, not too long after netradyne was implemented. I felt like my job was getting harder to do because of added restrictions. I could deliver much more and faster when during my first 6 months starting in June of 2020.
Man it's better jobs out there... I don't know yal situation... But listen it's better jobs out there... I quit and I didn't have another job or nothing...god will have to back long as you believe...you gotta care about yourself...love rules all...I got a job that next week...like right now I'm just sitting in my car getting paid...! I thought Amazon was the best job...bragging to my friends and family...but my safety matters more than anything 💯
It's almost like - I know this is a stretch, but go with me here - A small group of ultra wealthy people are ensuring that their low wage workers have no rights while watching them every second to make sure that the employees are making the most for the company with no care whatsoever for the employee should the employee become injured. At the same time, the company is desperate to prevent unions, remove competition through any means necessary and avoid imminent lawsuits in an effort to reduce the employees ability to leave the company. One would think that the U.S. would not be ok with a new incarnation of slavery. Literally Amazon is using slavery for profit, I'm not sure how people are ok with a company like this. Were we distracted by the yachts and the spaceships while this was happening?
@@johnnyq1233 They literally *GO AND SIGN UP* to work, definitely not slavery. People who act like the *only* open job is working for Amazon or w/e your personal preference "big bad company" is. It's voluntary work in return for money.
Careful your tinfoil hat is getting a little tight. "...ultra wealthy people are ensuring that their low wage workers have no rights...." Like it was said before, there are plenty of other jobs out there, nobody is forcing anyone to work for Amazon. ".......an effort to reduce the employees ability to leave the company....." W T F are you smoking? Please read that out loud and hopefully you will hear just how ludicrous that statement is. Dont want to work for Amazon? Walk out the door and never return. Wow! See how easy that is to leave the company? Unless Amazon is chaining their employees or some other means of holding them prisoner, not exactly sure how a company can reduce an employees ability to leave the company......are you on drugs?
This is how Jeff shut down all the businesses that used to pay a living wage like all the bookstores they had employees that can work at a bookstore make a living wage all gone hardware stores gone everything’s going bye-bye all that’s left is Jeff and Walmart
@@Really_jellis Nah, that's not what free means. If something is free, it means it didn't cost YOU anything. Otherwise the very word free wouldn't have a meaning, if nothing CAN be free. Everything was created or produced by something or someone. If you take that into consideration, NOTHING CAN be free (based on your opinion). What would the purpose of a word that cannot describe anything be?
I usually encounter one of two drivers that consistently deliver to my street. Always trying to be as courteous as possible and I never complain to them about anything that might be late. It's not their fault, and even if it was they're doing their best. For some reason the algorithm at Amazon just does not want to ship me my products in the fewest boxes with the fewest trips, so I'll see the same person come back sometimes three days in a row to deliver three small products that I had selected to come on one day in one box. Amazon needs to do better with their packing process so that these drivers can handle the volume more easily.
Screw 1 and 2 days delivery. People need to use proper Restrooms and have breaks to eat lunch. We all can wait for whatever crap we are ordering. Respect Human lives and they deserve Dignity!
Still these companies need to own up to their employees and stop playing the cowardly subcontract pretend game. If you work for Amazon day in and day out, they choose your work and *they set your hours*, you're an Amazon employee. Whether they choose to call you one or not. Period.
Packages count my routes 200 to 250 and that 18 to 25 dollars an hour is an absolute joke.. bringing home maybe 400 weekly and not including the healthcare ... and with that included try 280 dollars weekly... smh
@Mike Studmuffin or they are just using it as a stepping stone… so once you work there you work there for life??? Y’know these people can quit at anytime and find something else. Heck, some actually like the job. Why are you talking down to them?
@@ctrezzy11 and Amazon isn't supposed to give you a route with over 200 stops so we actually didn't sign up for that BUT we still get the job done. You should probably know what you're talking about before you pop off.
It always makes me laugh when companies say in prepared statements that "safety is their top priority." Don't lie Amazon, we all know that it's profit, profit, profit.
what else the company can do if it does not put profit in priority? They must gain as many profit as possible to pay salaries and provide a minimum safe environment in the workplace. You must know that US is among countries collecting the highest portion of taxes from the profit, so profit is the most important thing to consider when running the business although you are working under capitalism or communism.
You're saying this as if profit isn't directly connected to safety. A safe driver is much more profitable for Amazon than someone constantly getting into accidents or injured. They'll deliver more packages which results in more happy customers which means more profit.
@@limitlessart6817 if they don't want to work for Amazon, then leave. It's a simple choice. Amazon is infamous for putting profit as its priority, so if anyone chooses to work for Amazon, particularly labors and drivers, then you have to be aware of that
@@TuanNguyen-uq8gz I work here and I’m telling you how it operates. There is a safety department that controls processes and implements changes but can only do so when employees come forward and complain to them about safety concerns.
As someone who has worked as an Amazon delivery driver for the last year, I can say that this is a fairly accurate video, however the package and stop load is very understated. Just last week I had over 450 packages in my route. My van was stuffed so full that I couldn’t get around inside of it. My shift ended up being an 11 hour shift, one where I didn’t have time to eat, or stop to use the restroom more than once. I wish I could say that that was a unique experience, but sadly that’s a daily thing when delivering for Amazon. It’s brutal work and I’m glad that I was finally able to put in my two weeks notice!
my dad worked for an amazon dsp. it lasted maybe three months bc he realized how brutal the job was and how little the employers actually cared about the employees
So people that don't like a job,lazy,etc. or too hard work for them they quit the job at a company. How original. Surely this has never happened before since the 1900s.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 i never mentioned anything about my fathers work ethic. just like in the video, it mentions how much work is placed on workers and their ridiculous expectations of deliveries per day that, yes, are met. but at what cost to the workers? especially without benefits. all i said was my dad had worked for one of their contracting companies and it was hell for him and his coworkers, just like the video mentions. that's what i meant with my original comment. thank you
I remember the same year this video came out, amazon lightened the total stops/packages we delivered, long enough for this to die down. A year later, they implemented more tech to squeeze out more productivity, more protocols, more scrutiny and the total stops and packages we deliver in a day is peak level. SINCE LAST WINTERS PEAK SEASON . They keep telling us that it's temporary and it's the algorithm, it's been 8 months of the same old same old. A lot of shady stuff is happening. Distractions prevent progress, and that's seen in the country today as well. It's a downhill trend.
This video is so funny because I used to work at Amazon and can confirm it's all true. I worked sortation and the drivers were some of the most nervous, angry, and anxious people you'd ever meet. We couldnt go home until every package was accounted for, and sometimes all that occurs is that the scanner just didnt register with Amazon systems even if it makes the confirmation beep. During the holidays we racked up to 20,000 packages per day. At the start of every shift, we did stretches and some kinda cheer for our sortation facility but then everyone's faces return to looking absolutely dead. I used to work at a factory making jewlery and NOBODY looked as dead as those people at Amazon. It is truly a profound experience.
This is true, I used to work part-time for an amazon warehouse as well and I swear it was the worst job I've ever done. The constant walking, bending, kneeling, the overtime was unannounced, they only told you 30 minutes before the shift ended that you'll have an additional 1 hour overtime, and most importantly, the pressure from your supervisors and the packages just keep on coming and jamming the conveyer belt. I can't even imagine people working full-time as sortation for amazon warehouse, respect to them honestly
I work at Amazon delivering for dsp and yeah Amazon fixing any issue is a joke. I usually don’t take bathroom breaks or eat in fear of being behind.the video couldn’t be more spot on.
@@anthonybrowne3942 ots hiring HERE IN WINNIPEG MANITOBA CANADA BECAUSE THEY WILL OPEN AN AMAZON PLANT IN WINNIPEG ... WAS IT WORTH IT TO TRY TO APPLY?
I understand that USPS drivers have to go through hell as well because the systems they have in place is not the best neither, they have to sort their packages before they load them into the truck and most trucks are 30 years old, no a/c etc. So you guys are also working very hard as Amazon drivers and I hope this change someday for both companies. We have the technologies to improve everything we do around but the ethics of the company needs to improve as well. They only see how to make profits forgetting how difficult is the job for the driver no matter how much they pay them. Thanks for doing your best.
I’m a DSP driver in Jacksonville and man is this video spot on. It’s honestly worst for me cause I deliver in rural areas, where the people aren’t fond of blacks like myself.
@@jermainerace4156 he says this without blatantly saying that yes the trade off is basic human rights for the employees. Or should I say contractors so they don’t have to consider them employees
@@alidelatierra ...what human right? It's an employer, they give you money, not rights. As long as the contractors have the right to leave the job, there's no human rights violation.
@@jermainerace4156 that’s what you choose to believe i respect that but I believe something different, I’m not gonna try and convince you. have a good day🌞
@@jermainerace4156 Calling these human rights rather than employee rights may be incorrect, but normally employers have some level of duty of care requirement to employees - they're obliged to provide safety equipment, cover reasonable expenses, allow for time off, etc. Historically contractors were genuinely self-employed - take a plumber as an example. If you need plumbing work, you call them up; they're employing themselves so are responsible for their own safety, expenses, etc but can set their own prices and can refuse to take on the work you offer. What we've seen a lot of tech and gig economy companies do is employ contractors who have no control over the work they do, no ability to set their own prices, but are expected to retain full responsibility for their own safety, expenses, etc. The companies involved maintain the polite fiction that these are contractors rather than employees, so as to evade responsibility as an employer and save money as a result (hence a large proportion of difference in costs for Amazon's DPS self-delivery versus using UPS, who employs its staff). How sustainable this is remains uncertain - Uber, for example, has been losing landmark cases across the world on this point, with its contractors having repeatedly been ruled to be employees. Uber's response has been to frantically dissemble in the media, launch legal appeals or settle with the individuals out of court to delay or avoid being legally instructed to change their behaviour. Amazon's model is not a million miles different, albeit less exploitative in the round, and I'm sure they'll have been watching those cases like hawks.
I worked for amazon as a dsp for 6 months. The most annoying thing I’ve encountered was driving in dark areas or dirt roads when neighbors have their aggressive dogs outside or maybe your safety as at stake. Its a simple job yet all falls under whos your supervisor because you can get rushed to do 100-190 stops a day.
See? I just commented on this post saying that I haven't met one delivery driver that has lasted over 2 years working for Amazon. You've worked there for 6 months and my point still stands. I've been there for 3 months now and I'm getting sick of it already.
@@pandamilkshake Tbh its the same with every delivery service unionized or not. Im at the post office wishing we had vehicles with A/C with a similar amount in work load.
Lol what? We deliver 300 packages a day here in Colorado. Luckily I work for a dope DSP. I've been working for this DSP for 2 years now and we have a great team, we get it done.
As a dog owner, if you know your dog is aggressive towards strangers and you’re expecting a delivery why in the world would you have your dog out roaming the yard without restraints??? The dog owner should face charges.
That dog would be DOA after I left
Exactly. There needs to be something done about dog bites.
reminds me of a quote from borderlands the pre sequel...
"my client is gona get what they paid for even if they need to be punch in the sternum while at it".
A dog who bites people who haven't even entered a home, has a bad owner. Bad owners aren't the best at making sound decisions. Therefore, you can see why they wouldn't understand why not securing their dog is a problem.
@@acgillespie 😩😆
I guess I can wait an extra day for whatever useless crap I just bought if it means that my fellow American can use a real restroom or not risk lives on the road.
Having the option of paying extra for next day delivery each time you order something is the best way. That way if it is important that you have it tomorrow you will pay extra, if it isn't then you will wait. Everyone is happy. They changed something that didn't need changing.
You only said that because you seen the video. Just choose the shipping at a later date. Amazon has that option so not sure what you trying to say. The option was always there
@@larrymorgan747 - I mean that paying extra is a way of filtering out people who don't really need their parcel next day.
@@larrymorgan747 here's the thing. If you have Prime because you want to watch videos or only want to pay 1 fixed delivery fee a month, there is no option to select a later date.
@@larrymorgan747 If I'm the only one that chooses that option then we will still have this problem. We, including you, must all decide that quality of life for our fellow brothers and sisters is worth more than whatever junk we ordered on prime today.
As a DSP you're wearing an Amazon shirt while driving an Amazon van and using Amazon software to plan your route on Amazon's schedule. That is not an independent contractor and I can't believe this hasn't been litigated yet.
Well said
Contractual agreement stipulation.
They are not the only industry using contractors to skirt the system. Also all that stuff you listed actually belongs to the DSP, it is just branded with the Amazon logo.
@@AZ-jd5cr How does it skirt the system? It's not illegal. If you don't want to be a contractor, don't sign a contract.
@@bottomlinebassin2001 Because a lot of industries that use independent contractors operate right on the line on being a contractor and an employee. Many companies have got in trouble for using contractors but treating them like employees. The only reason a company is hiring you as a independent contractor is to benefit them.
The fact that 2 years have passed since this video and not a single thing has changed..
Except that they have 600+ packages and 300 stops
Yup.
That's insane. Why not just hire more drivers so each have fewer packages to deliver and give them a little more time between stops and also just stop with the super strict quota's? I mean I get it, they don't want to have to pay out more money but it would probably help.
@@WhoFlungDung it’s all about the 💰 they don’t care about us
@@WhoFlungDung It's not directly Amazon that hires the drivers, it's the third-party DSPs trying to squeeze out all the possibility of each employee .. and Amazon supports it by giving more packages because the 'algorithm' sees the workers "working harder"
Wait so they're not responsible for their drivers, but they record them every moment of the day?
Technically they don't work for Amazon, they work for someone that has contracted with Amazon to do their delivery so they can avoid the system.
@@katchin1514 24 stops per hr isn't that much depending on area. I can average 40 per hour on some days, but that's in UK and we have here what we call terraced houses that I often have parcels for doors next to each other and deliver 10 parcels within 1 min.
@@katchin1514 That is nuts.
They're going to have all this bite them in the butt later. Recording contractors every move is unheard of in any industry until now. They are independent so they have no business being in their life other than to hire them to do a job.
What an absolute joke.
But workmens comp is a well established bias in many corporate cultures unfortunately. And even if they are sued over it, the cost they save for not hiring certain people is greater than the settlements. People need to stop settling cases out of court.
Big Corporate Brother is watching us...for our safety of course because they care about us.
@@AndyPandy33 24 parcels per hour is different than 24 stops per hour... What are you saying?
The fact Amazon doesn't directly employ these drivers just says it all. As long as the customer gets their purchase neither Amazon or the customer cares.
But it doesn't matter if you get 1 day shipping or 4 day. The same number of packages still need to be delivered each day. The slower shipping just needs more workers in the middle to store packages waiting for their delivery day, it is less efficient. The total number of packages amazon makes each worker deliver is set by them and has nothing to do with 1 day or slower shipping. Amazon chooses to make each worker deliver over 100 packages a day. They easily could hire more workers, but choose not to.
But they apparently still monitor the minute to minute activities of the DSP drivers even though that would violate one of the criteria for determining if a driver is a defacto Amazon employee or a DSP employee. I would not be surprised to find Amazon inserting itself between the nominal owners of the DSP and the DSP employees related to their supervision..
@@_PatrickO No, having more time makes it more cost efficient. For instance they can bundle the packages more efficiently. More packages in a smaller region. Also the logistics in the warehouse (stocks).
How about you take responsibility for yourself, instead of expecting someone else to do it. No one's forcing you to work for Amazon.
@@stephenmitchell7915 Any smaller company would never get away with classifying people you video monitor 24/7 as "independent contractors". Bribing, sorry, donating to politicians is way cheaper than hiring employees and following employment laws.
Dog owners who let their dogs bite delivery drivers should be red flagged/banned from having packages delivered to their home. They need to lock up their pets especially if they know they are expecting a delivery as Amazon notifies them with ETA.
Agree 💯
I totally agree with you I got chased by a dog doing Amazon flex
Amazon dont even ban customers who assault delivery drivers, why would they care about dogs biting them?
Yes there are a few houses where the dogs are constantly trying to bite me. Other ones are very friendly but every bad egg counts.
Thank you 😊 I actually didn’t know they were notified but these people really need to take that into consideration.
The main problem is that there’s TOO many packages coming in. For a lot of drivers we do have to pee in bottles because if we try and to find a bathroom we lose time and then we scolded when we bring back packages. Sometimes even written up. Edit: one day shipping should NOT be a thing, seriously.
If that were the case than explain pay rate? Stop making excuses for them.
@@anthonymercado8126 I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing.
Amazon needs to start using delivery drones like Zipline.
So that explains why y'all are always late and resulted in me canceling prime. Sucks y'all go through that and still get beat by FedEx and USPS.
@@OrwellianNarrator I’m sorry but do you not realize how much Amazon drivers get paid? Lol it’s pennies compared to UPS, that’s why no driver at Amazon cares about your package, but fedex and ups and usps are more careful with your packages
The fact that some of the hardest working, most essential Amazon workers aren't even Amazon employees is ludicrous.
Heh. You should seeeee the benefits they give their employees too... it's ludicrous
Why is it ludicrous?
I think it’s great that they give people the opportunity to be entrepreneurs and build their own transportation companies.
@@minermarcus they are not entrepreneurs you don't even know what being a entrepreneur is.
@@minermarcus not entrepreneurs! Not even contractors , idk what to call this bs scam bezos started
A company that treats its' employees well, need to hire this young lady. She calls a $15. an hour job the best job she ever had. She has no benefits. She is so dedicated, she got bitten by a dog but finishes her shift before she goes to urgent care. She deserves better than Amazon.
She is one of the black who is a sell out.
@@alexdavis7501 I hope that's sarcasm. People who work their asses off trying to get ahead are NOT sell outs. Would you prefer she has a drug addiction and 10 kids with 10 different men? Would that make her "not a sell out"?
For some people it is. For other's it's not.
Completely agree - she’s smart and motivated.
@@alexdavis7501 your a POS! This is this young ladies first job and she is nailing it. Hopefully her dedication will lead to bigger opportunities with Amazon and that she becomes an employee with all the benefits. Her great job 👏 on the job will open many doors for her in the future.
“Safety is our top priority.” No, profit is. At all costs.
Profit over everything.
Exactly!!! Be all means necessary, profits over people
REAL TALK.
Yup, time to buy more Amazon stocks.
So Jeff can go to space
I was an Amazon delivery driver. I lasted 4 days. They tell you it’s a 12 hour shift, but they don’t tell you that you’re expected to be out there delivering until all of your packages are dropped off. I quit before they fired me. And not all the customers are happy to see you. A few times, I feared being assaulted or shot by suspicious men.
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@@kodeezieproductions Troll…
youre cap bro... they do send rescue if you need help unless your third party contractor are trash
@godlixx6908 No bro, not capping; they sent rescue if you needed one.
Well obviously you have to finish that day's deliveries before you can stop. That's just common sense...
AMAZON : “Safety is our top priority” but if you get hurt that’s on you.... not our fault
Remember: safety third!
😂💯
Lol UPS was the same. We always had this saying "Safety first. Unless it gets in the way of production."
@@Narsty_Boy safety last.
Your know all Amazon employees will be out of job in just a few years.. driverless vehicles and automation warehouses will ensure that... good luck finding a job then
As an occasional customer, I'm totally ok with getting a package a few days later if it meant taking pressure off of the driver.
I'd be ok with paying $250 for a Prime membership as the gentleman stated, to pay their employees benefits, and treat them fair. It won't be long before a case goes before the Supreme Court, and rules these are employees, not contractors.
Me too
@@niceatrya3477 not gonna happen. FedEx ground uses the same contractor model and they've been in lawsuits over and nothing changes. The drivers ARE employees.. they're just not Amazon employees, their employees of whatever contractor they work for
@@davidt1069 I have driven tractor trailer for Fedex Ground for years. The benefits, pay rate, and equipment conditions vary, based on what the contractor chooses to provide for his employees. My Fedex ID badge classifies me as a "Vendor", and states "the holder is not an employee of Fedex Ground". Several years ago Fedex had the contractors Remove the Fedex logo from their tractors, to disassociate them further.
Don’t blame yourself blame Amazon their the ones who imposed 1 day shipping you have no need to feel guilty
the delivery girl seems like such a nice person, i hope she can get better conditions or a better job
She said she really liked it if I'm not mistaken
@@SoulDelSol she did, i said that i hope she can get even better conditions
Agree, I think it's obvious she on her way to success.
I'm sure she was compensated well for making that video
@@Maestroxxx1 No She Wasnt...They Dont Pay For This Type Of Press
I worked at the airport and we also always had strict time constraints. But we could always report delays such as defects, traffic jams, technical problems or toilet stops in the app, so that no negative evaluation happened to us in the app. Amazon should introduce something like that, everything else is inhumane.
What's the name of the app? They use for dsp amazon drivers??
@@makiboysilvestre4512 its still the amazon flex app
It's ridiculous that Amazon keeps evading responsibility. It needs to re-evaluate and revise its standards and expectations.
Amazon should do many things. Amazon is abusive and is just a computer.
Why do'nt owners put their dogs on a leash when they are expecting deliveries! Super selfish!
I would shoot the dogs if they came at me
I deliver for Amazon. A lot of people have there dogs on shock Collars and there outside barking there head off at me. The owner is home but they don’t come out. I just leave the package by the mailbox.
Right imagine late night no out side lights your on there property but the house is far away not a good feeling
Exactly never understood inconsiderate ppl
Many dog owners are downright bad people, with almost no knowledge about dogs. If I had to guess, I'd say that I am nervous of at least half the dogs I see when out walking, and it's mostly because the owners are obviously incompetent. First red flag: extendable leashes. Never trust a dog on an extendable leash: the owner doesnt' give a crap about other people if they use those things, and they don't care if their dog kills someone because "my dog would never".
It’s not just Amazon, everywhere is like that now. Pharmacy, hospitals, healthcare workers are all suffering with keeping up with metrics set by the corporates cuz it’s all about profits, no longer about safety.
You have no idea how bad it is at Amazon. You work a 10 hour shift, you must work 9.75 hours of it. Non stop. You use the bathroom and it's time off task or "TOT". Use that bathroom enough times in one day and you'll get written up. Enough write ups and you're fired. You might think I'm exaggerating but I was fired four times from Amazon. Once after getting in a car accident and getting a doctor's note saying I couldn't work....
It's never been about safety.
That capitalists dont exploit their workers was to be ensured by politicians. But when you buy them out you can use the workers as slave.
That's becuase business schools teach this mentality to business graduates. My son told me all about it when he was attending San Diego State. He graduated, but he ended up becoming disillusioned by the whole business school ethos, which is to take, TAKE, TAKE, TAKE!!! I raised my son right. He wants to do something that helps people, not STEAL from them, not take ADVANTAGE of them, not ENSLAVE them. He's been working for one of the office supply giants as a corporate sales rep and he ended up becoming their top sales rep a couple of years ago and he said that not only did he bring in the most corporate clients, but then his and all the sales teams' salaries AND bonuses were SLASHED by one-third, and THEN the top brass expected EVEN MORE SALES!!!
Corporations ARE evil! They TRULY ARE E-V-I-L!!!
Its a progressive life! Its what all the people wanted!
After this segment, people who were featured and interviewed are probably no longer affiliated with Amazon DSP.
And I'm sure USPS, USP, FedEx, or DHL will hire them. These logistic problems aren't just with Amazon.
@@cagedtigersteve Maybe... maybe not. If Amazon is so horrible why wouldn't they work for one of the other services instead? Amazon probably was the only one hiring like crazy.
@@Mike__B bc people need money especially during a pandemic
@JesusPaid4You 2 lol apartment office won't take package bec covid and they don't follow to drop package in mail locker bec it's owned by usps.
@@Mike__B We don't know if they are or aren't. It might look good for maybe 2 years and then they get tired of being abused and then go to UPS and FedEx. They probably have a high turnover.
Since you're part of a separate company who just so happens to have an exclusive contract with Amazon, Unionizing would be challenging.
If a DSP unionizes, Amazon would simply terminate their contract with that DSP and pay for a new one. In order for DSP drivers to unionize, you need to convince the other separate DSPs to unionize as well.
there is strength in numbers!
In austin, we get paid more. 19.75 10 hour shifts. Health insurance, dental, vision , 401k matching, and tuition reimbursement, Over time, Pay time off etc
The other DSPs will only wait like vultures to gain additional routes. Works that way at all warehouses.
There's a reasons why Amazon is fighting so hard against unions.
Can you blame them?
Yeah, which is the same reason why I and hundreds of million other americans order from amazon and not elsewhere lol
I Worked at a Auto Zone Distribution Center and they treat their employees similar to the way that they treat the Amazon Employees and they don't have a Union. Yeah you're right It's a Reason..... Treat you like Trash / Non Human.
@@topochicooooo too lazy to go to the store is my guess 😂
@@vanessabutterfly5142 pretty sure the employee treats Amazon like trash too. Employees want to work as little as possible and get payed regardless of how hard they work.
Amazon spends so much time making sure they can say “this is not Amazon’s problem”
Amazon will never own up, or take responsibility for things that would be any other employers responsibility. After all, you are still employed with Amazon themselves no whichever way they want to describe your role with them. I would go as far as stating that since Amazon will refuse any responsibility that is clearly there responsibility, makes them not only the most immature, and irresponsible parcel company, but the most immature, and irresponsible company to this day. Yes they are a very successful business, but that's not to say they aren't corporate assholes to the people who are the majority embodiment of their business. Without their drivers, and business partners, Amazon is nothing but an online shopping network. Back to where they began. Hopefully one of these days, someone above them puts them in their place and makes the take responsibility for everything that they are in reality responsible for.
Yup. They claim drivers aren’t their employees yet they literally tell them how to dress, how to speak, how to deliver, and what hours you work. It’s all a facade.
Neo feudalism
Microsoft doing something similar (employing loads of contractors and subcontractors) led to court battles back in the late 90s. One of the key court decisions was that *indefinitely* employing a person or a group creates a legal presumption that they ARE your employees regardless of how you structure the job agreement or their compensation. As a result, a lot of corporations started following a policy informally known as the "Microsoft rule;" don't employ any contractor or group of contractors for more than 18 months.
2010s motto
To all the people that say "I would rather have my package a day later". You can have your package a day or two later if you just don't pay for Amazon Prime.
I think the point is more that one day shipping shouldn’t exist at all. A single person can cancel their prime membership, but it’s not gonna lessen the driver’s workload when there are still 200 million people with prime
Won't change anything.
And people want Prime Video.
@@Cookedfrfrfr
And that changes what?
@@Cookedfrfrfr
So it changes nothing.
As an truck driver, I don't care if packages take an week or two. If I need something now. I will go to the store myself.
Everything this lady said, all of it is true. If Amazon could shorten the routes, it’ll put less stress on the drivers. Then on another note, these DSP’s you work for, they don’t really fix any problems as simple as a headlight bulb. If they’re so concerned about safety issues, why can’t they fix something so simple. Current DSP driver here btw.
DSPs only care about is your stops per hour.
@@jcampbell07 DSP's only care route to be delivered, i can add and concessions here also.
Can you explain how your day starts as a driver? Do you just head to your truck and have it loaded up at a dock and drive off or what?
You have to load your truck every day you only have 15 mins to load everything then you go on your route and good luck lol
This is not an entrepreneurial work. Amazon wants the driver to pay all the expenses plus break the law to make service times. You are basically an employee with big brother watching your every move. I worked in the freight business for 25 years, and I would NEVER work for this company for any level of pay. These are serious accidents just waiting to happen.
Exactly. Anyone who disagrees with Amazon's policies, pays, expectations should look for work elsewhere. And those who agreed to work for the company, must not complain,unless....someone made them.
Please, please people, get yourself and your family vaccinated today! Together we can defeat this deadly virus, be safe and be kind to one another!
If your involved with Amazon you are owned by them no matter what they say. Modern day slavery all in one company.😑
@@cnbctelevision3288 everyone knows you are fake
*not an employee, quite deliberately, but the rest is spot on
I respect all you folks who get our packages to us....thank you all stay safe
If u truly respected them you would stop ordering on Amazon … ain’t gonna happen
@@richardk2495 I will never stop ordering from Amazon
@@richardk2495 that delusional
@@richardk2495 I have definitely limited my amazon orders.
@@richardk2495 I will Increase Ordering from Amazon .... LOL... No matter what 5/7 years Later Most of those Jobs would be replaced by Drones and Robots
As a former Amazon DSP driver, I’ll say I’ll never do it again. I remember I went almost an entire shift a few times without eating anything just to make sure I finished a route on time.
Pussseeee
Can't you just bring food with you?
@Disguised Dv8ant Ok dude! I ain’t gonna stop you, go work for them. They need you apparently 😂😂
@@Pukwudgie_Surprise We’d bring food but it’s a time issue. You don’t get to go home until all the packages are delivered. Sometimes I was on routes for 14 hours.
That is when you learn to pack a lunch that you can eat when you are stopped to make a delivery even if you can't plan out your day to a T.
I have been a full-time caretaker for my mom who's on oxygen and it's very difficult for me to leave her so I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for delivering packages to me cuz it has been the biggest blessing you can imagine
These are employees. Calling them independent contractors is just another way for Amazon to cut costs and underpay employees.
This is a known fact thug Bezos abusing.
Sooooo true! They treat DSPs like employees then when the DSP gets sued there on there own!
They don't want the liability
$18-20 is a pretty good pay for a job pretty much anyone can do
@@Jame6999 They simply wants to control cost. The best way to control cost is to get rid of liability, it’s the most unpredictable factor.
"Safety is our top priority." Just make sure you finish your route before going to the hospital.
lmao to be fair that was her decision, she stated she would've went back but wanted to finish her shift. Also an urgent care isn't a hospital, if she went to the urgent care because a dog bit her they would've excused that she just didn't want to give her co-workers extra work. I agree Amazon doesn't treat their workers the best, but your argument is not valid at all.
@@lqserss that wasnt very smart of her, she is caring about a job and a company who dont give a damn about her
Package s safety is top priority?? hahaha
@@johnsalchichon3605 the cognitive on this thread dissonance is real. Has this lady been white instead of black, your responses would be of a more sympathetic tone than callous and blame shifting. People cannot admit that their monsters towards other groups of people for no real reason 😔. Spare me the responses unless you have energy and brain matter to waste. Troll away tolls.
@@edhooper1421 stop race baiting. I’m black and think it was dumb of her to wait as well.
I’m a combat veteran and I also drove for Amazon and quite honestly driving for Amazon was the most difficult, frustrating, and just horrible job I’ve had
Come to ups
Yeah you deserve better. Way better.
Damn I’m a disabled vet myself and thought I could get a nice little income doing it. However I want to not lose my mind as well. Can you explain more about your experience?
@@yazzu_7013 what education do you have to have to work for them?
@@youtriggeredtherecheesecak2312 not much but I advise to start preload first then work your way into driving that way if you dont cut it as a driver you still have a job and are in the union
I currently work for them now just a summer gig tho before my semester starts. I get around 130-180 stops on average which has about 200-280 packages. It can get crazy but I have learned from other more experienced drivers that organizing your van in the morning when you load is critical!!! Before you deliver. That determines how your day will go, once I got that in check I finish my route way before the time that is needed. My days go fast, no one bugs me, easy money, it’s super chill. I for sure recommend this because it’s an easy job but of course every station is different. I’m lucky mine is filled with super friendly and chill people, I’ve heard other places are way mores strict than ours and they can be annoying.
Where do u work at if u don't mind me asking? I just got hired and start training soon. Where I live it's alot of BS, apartments and projects.
@@joemammi9436 I’m in New Jersey, Hamilton station. Btw we don’t do uniforms which is awesome😂.
Ok, Matthew
How much is pay , weekly ?
@@funkydogheadbish4597 they pay BiWeekly, but it’s all Direct deposit & it’s thru an app called ADP so you can always see exactly how much you worked and exactly how much you’ll make.
I bet if the majority of people knew what "one-day" shipping cost on a human level, we'd all be fine with getting out packages in two to three days, like nearly every other major corporation does. I specifically chose the later shipping times to encourage Amazon to do this. Also, people with their freaking dogs, man! You know people are going to be coming to your door. Keep your dogs inside or in a gate! No one should be getting bit by your untrained dog delivering a package.
No
I don't care, it's your job, do it and be glad you have a job. I want my stuff in 1-day and if you don't like it then quit
Yea let your dog bite me, im pressing charges and goodbye Mr.Skittles. Idc, I'm a dog parent too , but I know better and I Keep my dog away when I know company will be here, duh. People like this guy lol ⬆️⬆️⬆️
Yea right most people are selfish they can careless as long as they get their what they want as fast as possible.
FACTS
@@AuroraRae89 you are certainly entitled to that opinion. That said, I would imagine if you did their job for a month, you would feel differently. If we all had the attitude that you should put up with any working conditions just because you “are lucky to have a job”, we still be working in the conditions described in Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle.”
I used to work for Amazon. After I left I made a vow that because of the heavy workloads, the ridiculous route planning, and toxic work environment, that I would never shop on Amazon again.
i intend to follow your steps my brother
I purposely didn’t buy anything on Prime day and my wife not to either!
Only eBay
Agree, you can get what you need from Walmart and Target
Literally the work environment is favoritism and BS. I’m following your steps.
Amazon calls these guys modern day entrepreneurs. I call it slave labor
Any corporation employees are all slave labor, they just don't know it.
western slave labor terms, if it was china they call if labor slave and no human rights then USA will sacntion them 😂😂😂😂
Def not slave labor considering their relatively good pay but there needs to be alot of changes
We're all slaves
1)Slaves don't get paid. 2)Employment (of any kind) is voluntary. 3)You can turn down a job or quit a job any time you don't like the terms. 4)You can start your own business and set your own terms.
I just got hired for a DSP. I lasted 2 days, and my body couldn’t take it anymore. I quit after that 2nd day. I have never had to do this before at a job. They put way too much on you. I was going as quickly as I possibly could while still trying to be safe, and they still told me I needed to pick up the pace. Absolutely ridiculous. Do better Amazon.
It's literally killing me
@@jessturner5441 are you still working there do you think it’s worth it or no?
Because you're weak
@@nighthawk5859you a hoe for that
They didn’t start you off with nursery routes?
Now I understand why I always see the Amazon delivery guy litteraly running from his van to my door, that is so sad...
Ya he gotta pee bad
Usps is even worst with delivering the mail too along with post office package and Amazon package too. New hires aren't getting paid as much or even getting full benefits.
yes, same with UPS and FedEx, that's why not many women take these delivery jobs they are very tough. You have to run back to your truck plus pee in a bottle which I'm not sure how these women do.
I once stopped my driver to ask a question about a weekly delivery I got. Needless to say, he avoided me after that. I never saw him again. He made sure I didnt see him so I wouldnt talk to him. That's kinda sad.
@@thesnoopydance645 i personally am a DSP driver and I can’t say I’d ignore you or avoid seeing you but I’d definitely politely let you know I still have 250+ packages to deliver
I delivered for Amazon through a 3rd party company and I only lasted 4 months. This video addressed a lot of the issues I experience and they're all true. The biggest difficulty for us was delivering in business building, apartments, especially if we're not provided a code to get in. Sometimes the app will have us back track and deliver packages from an area we already delivered at. The route developers really don't have any sort common sense of they're so concerned about time efficiency.
The most frustrating thing was getting like 15+ bags with 44+ overflows. The van use to be so packed that you literally had to throw overflows out just to be able to move to get to the one you needed. They only gave us 10 minutes to load and all 4 carts you have to go searching for. Good luck scanning all those packages in because I use to swipe complete
Your working and guess what? Things don't always go as planned. 4 mos. You never gave it a chance. Maybe ya would of gotten better at the job and things would of improved?? Instead ya quit or got fired. Smh.
@@bdubb5390 lmao huh there are other jobs he can do that are a lot better amazon doesn’t treat you as a human your just a number that’s why they have a high turnover rate meaning more people quit then they hire that’s why they always have hiring events every week they burn out there workers and just get more cause they know it’s always gonna. Be someone desperate cause they need money it’s sad if you haven’t done this job you can’t speak on it I’ve done this and in the warehouse there both Easy jobs but the wear and tear on the body is horrible
@@bdubb5390 And people like you are the reason why it will never get unionized. Why waste time hoping it gets better when they so obviously making sure you to crash and burn.
Oh please that's normal in LTL freight. This is what happens when people with no real work ethic finally go to work at 28 years old.
Every driver should quit on the same day to cripple these fools.
Easier said than done. People gotta feed themselves.
DSPs are under contract. Quitting would sting Amazon temporarily but they would unquestionably get their money back through litigation, plus inconvenience of the DSP violating the contract.
@@NotLikeUs17 me too.
"Would cripple em?”They would just find new drivers.
In June, two Portland DSPs gave up their contracts simultaneously because of Amazon's disregard for drivers' safety during the record breaking heat wave we had. The delivery station effectively lost 155 drivers all at once. It took less than 2 weeks for Amazon to bring in two brand new DSPs. The packages that would have been delivered by those now unemployed drivers were, of course, split up and assigned to the rest of us.
Been saying this for YEARS. Went through 4 different DSPs from 2014ish to 2023. They take one step forward, 10 steps back. I made it abundantly clear when Seattle came down to our station.
Amazon need a union because ain’t no way anyone should be working 8+ hours a day with minimum breaks.
they dont even have minimum breaks
If that's the case, nursing needs a union. 12+ hours, restroom breaks and uninterrupted lunches are rare because people don't ever stop calling for you to scratch their nose, change the channel, pull up their covers, bring them a snack, lol.
@@kingb3 I meant 15 minutes breaks or whatever their terrible little breaks are.
You get one 30mins break and two 15mins ones. And even then they’re nagging at you as to why you’ve stopped delivering? Smh
10-12 hours no breaks then fired for going "Slow".
Last thing that Adrienne said "Maybe things won't get delivered in two days" wow! What a concept. Society needs to stop with the instant delivery, this is foolish
Boi stop, I want my next day
Kids will never believe that mom n dad/granny and papa once used to have retail stores and is how they lived and raised there family's. They'll never believe it
Inhumane? Get real
In humane ? Lol, you know there’s something called choices.
@@jonathansoto3203 .Choices is a great song
Because of this video, I will always choose a later date of delivery. Thank you to all the workers that get us our packages!!!
even better than that wait until your cart has more items in it.
@@noway5096 even better than that - never order anything from amazon again.
I will always choose same day delivery, because I can. If some delivery driver don't want's to work, then there is always someone else.
@@mattsmith718 let's support child labor while we're at it.
@@noway5096 agree and can you also add slavery to it please. Thanks
i just started a week ago and i love it. mainly because along my route i have run into some of the most kindhearted people of all time. thank you to all the people that offered smiles and good energy.
Are you still working there? I've been working at my DSP for two years now, and I still love it. But what I don't love is the lack of company benefits
😂😂
I'd rather have my package come a day later than stressing out the employees
No you wouldn’t, that’s a lie and you know it.
@@MyEgoMyThoughts Sometimes I need next day delivery, but usually I don’t care if it takes a couple of days.
Said no one ever
ikr?
thank you. i wish there were more customers like you saying that out loud .
I got a new respect for Amazon drivers now after seeing this! It's corporate greed causing alot of these unbearable working conditions!!!
I have no sympathy, if its that bad than quit, or like me as a truck driver. I can stop driving if i think its dangerous and they can't make me drive.and cant make me drive faster than I deem is safe!
A lot. Two words.
Fedex and UPS are worst that whole 200 stops is about average in fed ex and with FedEx express you have 10:30am commitment time 3 pm residential and business commitment time 4:30 pm commitment time and 8pm.
@@mirzaahmed6589 One Letter and One Word
god for bid someone break checks you (it happened to me while on my shift) we get written up for something that was out of our control!!
I've never heard anything good from the Van drivers. This is coming from a guy who works in the warehouse. Some people like working in the warehouse. I have NEVER heard anyone say they like driving the van.
I heard the Warehouse is far worst than the vans. From what I heard working for Amazon is hard all around but the pay is better than any burger flipping job.
@@cellpat7392 I heard order puller in the warehouse is a total beast! They time you like you are on a game show without the nice expensive game show prizes. Gives a whole new meaning to the term, "Shop till you drop!"
Its pros & cons to both being that ive had plenty wearhouse jobs growing up and now having my cdl. Wearhouse work can get very repetitive and boring while driving may be more pressure on you but you’re days at work will be different each day. If that makes sense lol
Driving the van in fun o use to take my gf with me until the dispatch caught wind and send 3 other drivers to spy on me. Still kept the job even when confronted by da boss
When i worked there you get around 300 packages broken up into around 200 stops. Every single day you haul ass to empty the van just to fill it up in the morning all over again
I know I am late to the party but I have been working as a DSP Driver for Amazon since August and I am in San Antonio, TX and this video is spot on. The main issues we encounter in our area as drivers are wrongly routed/stops, dogs chasing/attacking (I have been bit before), we only get 10 minutes for loadout, upwards of 300-400 packages (especially now in the holiday season), being followed by people since you are in a rental/unmarked van, I take no breaks and still average 8 hours for my route which means if you take appropriate breaks/lunches then you are doing full 10 hour days, typically multiple days in a row, little to no water/snacks provided in the warehouse when there should be, etc. I am currently getting paid &17.50 an hour so take it how you want but that is my experience. I am really only staying because starting in December they are bringing benefits such as 401k and paying off student loan debts so hopefully they don't retract that.
At my warehouse dsp it’s 19.50 full
Benefits like 401 dental payed holidays
So they don’t provide you with a truck at dsp
When Amazon says safety is our top priority they really mean “OUR” priority And not you as an individual yourself
Amazon can only train drivers. Drivers have a responsibility to get packages to the correct places. Sure, hold Amazon responsible, but the drivers have to hold up their end and work at the speed that's possible for them. If they are not fast enough that's on the driver and as someone who was a driver for years and trained drivers I know that most people are not cut out for this kind of work.
@@LilithsCosmicLounge Don't blame the USA, this is a company issue not a USA issue! The founding of the USA has nothing to do with how any individual or organization or company runs their company, its the owners of their businesses choice. #FreeHongKong
They have a uniform, company car, full workload, supervisor (camera) but Amazon calls them entrepreneurs? This does not meet the definition criteria at all. I mean, aren’t all “employees” then contracting their time and labour to their employee. The category has become a distinction without a difference.
They're calling the DSP (delivery service provider aka 3rd party delivery company), entrepreneurs. They're the ones that hire the drivers, pay for the shirts and a hat, and lease the vans. They're the ones Amazon usually blames if there's an accident or something goes wrong.
I am currently a DSP at an Amazon warehouse in Winnipeg, MB, Canada. Everything in this video is SPOT on accurate. From a horrible GPS and route-planning algorithm to dogs attacking us multiple times a day to apartment stops where owners do not give buzz code access, EVERYTHING is spot on. Another HUGE thing that this video does not mention is how hectic it is at the beginning of the day when you load your vans with the packages, Yard Marshalls often yell "Hurry Up" thru their bull-horns and Drivers often do not have time to properly organize their packages so life is easier on the road.
So true .
I was a new driver, and they didn't like me bcuz I gave them a piece of my mind at the end of my fist day on the job which was absolutely horrible. They wanted to get rid of me, one day but wanted to use me for loading time first.
I am to working as a driver in Winnipeg for amazon. Its really hard man. Which warehouse u work at regent one or the other?
@@guneetgill4868 regent location brother
That's why I left that ahole company. I refuse to allow rich pigs hold a gun to my head.
I DESPISE apartment deliveries. The customer, 8/10 times, doesn't put the building number/letter in the notes, so we spend a good 10-20 minutes just looking for the building with the unit, and a lot of times, we end up delviering to the wrong unit because it's the same number, but different building. And reaching out to the customer for the building number/letter is almost always futile.
I just literally went through everything in this video daily! I been with Amazon for about 2 years now! To me it’s got a little better but it’s the same concept! I average about 170-185 stops a route! I’m pretty seasoned with how fast to get the route done but if you are like 60-70 stops ahead, dispatch with call your phone to pick up the slack of other drivers! If you are NOT physically and mentally fit, Amazon is NOT the job for you at all! The job is not worth $15-$18 dollars an hour I can definitely tell you that! $25 starting pay with DSPs will definitely get no complaints out of me of what I go through working this job!
I try to choose longer shipping times when I don't need something in a rush. We've become too impatient as a society.
You do whatever works for you.
You said the Truth. We need more Compassion for these workers that work to deliver what we need. Such as Amazon worker, and Restaurant workers. I couldn't put up with people Foolishness, but they Do. Sooo be Respectful World.
Absolutely...People who "need"Instant Gratification!
True
@@blackworldtraveler3711 found the privileged person.
Amazon will NEVER allow the majority of their contractors make good money. They’re monitoring everything. As soon as Amazon sees people finishing ahead of time on a regular base, they’ll increase the work load. A general contractor should never know exactly how much money a subcontractor makes per hour. Deciding how much he thinks is enough for you, and looking for a way he can lower his overhead is a temptation he cannot resist.
I work Amazon flex and make great money. I could easily make 4k$ a month+ if I work two 4hour shifts a day for 5 or 6 days a werk.
Such conspiracy... do you have a close relationship where he has expressed this to you or are you just making all this up? Let me guess...
Amazon was actually the first company of its size to offer a minimum of $15 an hour. It's not Amazon that's the problem.
@@Dog_gone_itDo you have to use your own car for flex?
@@MsJonessss yes
When my daughter first started to work for Amazon, she was so excited about her new job they started her out in good areas to deliver at until the next month they changed her route to the gang and the drug-infested areas in south-central LA. She had hundreds of boxes to deliver; her 10 hours turned into 12 hours went into overtime. She started to look tired and dark circles started to show around her eyes. Some of the drivers were getting robbed at gunpoint. I told her to stop working because I didn’t want her to get robbed or killed. They should do a video working in the warehouse for Amazon; they work you like a runaway slave for $15 an hour.
This is why I wanna quit
Ppl in the hood need their Amazon packages too 🤷🏾♀️
Xome to the ie most places are 16 or 17
@@luvmifro1003lovesfamily wym they don’t be having money for Amazon lmao 😭
There’s several videos of the horrible conditions. It’s disgusting. I was watching the senate and Bernie Sanders showed that Amazon paid NO taxes in 2020 and got a check from the government for $189,000,000.00. Unbelievable, but true. Sigh…
i currently work for a dsp and all of these complaints are 100 percent valid ! the gps never works , camera docks you if someone cuts you off in traffic , bathrooms breaks or lunch breaks push your route back 3 years .. and to top it off people know they are expecting packages and leave all 37 of their pitbulls outside to greet you soon as you pull in the drive way 😐
"We have over a million workers that are proud of what they do" I haven't met even one Amazon delivery person that has lasted over 2 years in that job and as a delivery driver myself for 3 months now, I'm not even gonna last half a year. This job is hell and whoever says otherwise is just straight up lying.
Some people can't handle hard work.
Think that's hard work try tar roofing in the summer and see how you like it.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 I live in Europe, those jobs don't exist here because our houses are not made of cardboard.
@@pandamilkshake
Can tell you have no idea what I'm talking about.
They exist all over Europe.
It's your large commercial buildings not houses. LOL!!!
You will smell it eventually on any construction site in the world.
Can't mistake that smell.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 I don't really like comparing work experiences in addition I do sympathize with you on your roofing job/career but to give you a perspective what it is that Amazon delivery associates experience at least during the summertime on the east coast of the US Amazon delivery associates are dealing with high volume deliveries which are upwards 280 packages and upwards of 170 stops. in addition to you being in a stuffed van, you can expect high temperatures of 85 degrees and up (mind you I'm only speaking for the east coast) so that being said your van will turn into a toaster oven and you will turn into extra crispy chicken (& majority are without AC circulation in the branded or rented vans and the windows only save you if you stick half your body out the window while the van is in motion) we only experience "regular days" during the fall (low packages and possibly low stops) and right after Halloween it ramps back up
@@blackworldtraveler3711 so what's ur point? Its common sense to have an enjoyable job that they can be proud of and have time for things they want to do
U must have a slave mindset if u disagree with this
The thing I can't stand is all my friends sit around and complain about how awful Amazon is and they continue to purchase things from Amazon. Bunch of hypocrites that sell their integrity to save a few bucks.
@ChristovTech Me too, but I got it again with Prime Day
Amazon has the best online shopping platform. That is why I always shop on Amazon, but I BUY on E-Bay or direct from manufacturer. Yes, I often spend more money, but sometimes I actually save money.
That’s better than buying from Amazon and not complaining about the ethics. It’s too useful to stop using. Eventually aren’t they going to replace with self driving cars. Amazon is just proof and an example the monetary systems end up failing the people.
@@FRANCHIS3ENT what a sad excuse.
@@FRANCHIS3ENT I wouldnt go that far. Other companies provide good wages and conditions. Countries that dont have a monetary system, cant even afford to buy food, let alone get a package delivered. If people have a problem with Amazon, dont buy goods from them. I guarantee most people complaining about amazon, still use the company to save $3 on postage.
Calling these driver "independent contractors" is a criminal farce. They are employees that are micromanaged.
Nah be quiet I’m a rideshare driver and I like being independent contractor. More money for the drivers and the businesses. Less wasted money given to the government. They have to pay employee taxes and then the government misuses that money. And then customers will be charged more. If you’re for the driver, customer, and the company then you should be against the proposals to make us employees. If you’re for more tax revenue and it being misused by the govt, then be against the independent contractors.
what is the free market?
@@mikeslemonade You do realise that employers have to pay half of the employees tax in an employer/employee relationship right? As an independent contractor, you have to pay all of your taxes.
All it's doing is taking the financial burden away from Amazon and placing it onto the driver.
The drivers aren't independent contractors.... The people who own the company under Amazon itself who sends out the drivers are the independent contractors...
I would add, basically slaves, 18 even 20 dollars an hour isn't worth that with COL today won't get you far. You'd still have to have another job, or another income and forget it if you have kids.
If you work for a DSP, under no circumstances do you EVER finish the route after getting bit by a dog. Tell your boss you need to go to the hospital or urgent care immediately. If something is wrong with you afterwards, they can argue that you were fine and finished the shift that day. Any problem you have physically is probably due to something else; would be their excuse. Even if you don't work for Amazon, NEVER EVER finish a shift after being attacked by a dog, other animal, or person.
Thank u! I’m taking your advice , will they pay for the hospital visit ? But this was helpful. I’m just starting , not gonna do it long 🥶
I’ve never denied one of my delivery drivers the use of my bathroom or a bottle of water in hot weather. Being disabled and housebound, I really appreciate their service bringing my orders to my door, even bringing really heavy packages inside for me. My life would be so much more isolated and leaving me more dependant on others without them.
Nah, wouldn’t want a stranger in my house.
@@nieceypiecey100
I suppose I’m lucky that I live in an area that I’ve had the same delivery drivers for years. Some of them I even went to school with their parents. 🤷♀️
I don't need nobody leaving logs in my toilet stopping it up 😂
Thank you. But everyone is not like you..
@@charlesroberson5154
Working 30+ years in the retail business taught me a lot about delivery drivers. I can spot the good, the bad and the downright disgustingly dodgy as they step out of their vehicle!! I don’t just loan my bathroom to all and sundry, especially if you can smell them walking up to your front door!!
As a Driver, I definitely make sure to put my safety first. So if you’re a dog owner and your dog is hella aggressive when I get out the van, just know that if you don’t answer my calls/texts you won’t get your package that day lol
Your dog doesn't even have to be aggressive. They are nice to you and your regular guests, but at the end of the day, a dog is a dog. They are territorial to strangers in a big truck showing up in their area. It took one incident for me to realize this about owning a dog. That's why when I'm expecting delivery, she's in the back yard behind a fence. Some people are just too "oh my sweet Lilly won't hurt you." Yes they will and yes they can. I don't blame you.
I recently encountered an owner working in his opened garage with his Labrador out. I was approaching the home and projected, “Hello, sir!” The dog came barking at me aggressively (not charging; cause there’s a difference).
When that dog did that, (almost simultaneously) the owner said, “He won’t bite,” while I said firmly, “Get outta here! Go!!”
The dog backtracked in an unsure manner. Then it tried flanking me and barked from there, but I shifted towards it and said, “Noo!!! Get back! GO!” And I shoe’d it away with my package as I said it, and it retreated…. Still barking at me. The owner’s next words:
“Or that works too. 😅”
Then he got his package.
The way I see it is, if your dog approaches me in a threatening manner or in a way that makes me feel uncomfortable, they don’t deserve to be near me at all. And if your dog charges me, yes I will probably get bitten, but I will make sure your dog gets the message to not mess with me. And that includes injuring it to save my life.
Cause dogs are not humans. They’re beasts bent on ending you at that point.
"so I don't have to waste time when I'm on the clock"
This girl has been successfully broken.
I was like “she trippin, Jeff Bezos can afford it”
Wow, powerful statement.
@@LastDonThe thank you.
Man they got her
K W, That's why Amazon hires them young. They know no better on how the working condition should be.
Amazon DSP delivery has gotten better, but it's still a far cry from UPS, FEDEX or USPS as far as accuracy, professionalism, and being on-time. Conversely, you can't get next day delivery as economically than Amazon. Personally, I'm ok with 2 or 3 days as long as it's reliable but society in general is moving towards "I have to have it now" - partially driven by social media's influence.
113 packages, I’d love that route if I was still doing small parcels lol.
There are a lot of us who could wait 7 days to get a package. All of this is ridiculous.
@@Limerick502 same. I can't stand one day people
I honestly would rather just pay more for shipping, and/or wait an extra day and know that my package isn't killing people. Amazon is becoming a grotesque company.
I ordered picture prints from google it’s been 25 days I’ll be going back to Amazon
Amazon has always been a grotesque company,along with their stupid customers that don’t support their local retailers. Probably the same idiots that claim they hate the rich then give bezo their business.
Yes well it isn't killing people but we don't need that package right away
and can pay a bit extra.
I get on average 2 items per year from Amazon, and I get the option for locker pickup at the local pharmacy whenever it's available. It just makes sense to go to the store to pick up your item? Plus it is maybe 20 feet of extra driving to get it along my commute, if I don't bike. I haven't seen what the locker drivers are put through, though.
You should see how they slave us at the fulfillment center to get your package out a day earlier.. you would never buy from Amazon again.
That’s their motto “every corner we could cut we will”. Ain’t a lie that’s them.
Capitalism only has one goal and that's to minimize losses and maximize gains
Well, Amazon didn't get as big as it did without innovation and creativity. Why is everybody whining? This company employs millions of people, without this company, millions would be without a job.
18-25 dollars an hour! Okay, so they contract workers. And your point is? The packages have to be moved somehow, and it's better to have people making a living than delivery drones.
@@justusforrster9264 it will be drones or other solutions eventually. Amazon is preparing for the day they burn out too many people and can't hire enough to replace the people they burn through. It's on a news site if you need a read.
@@justusforrster9264 Job burnout is a real thing. People are starting to value their health over money. It's only a matter of time until Amazon contractors are mentally and physically damaged. Job burnout is something that not even therapy can cure fully.
This is one of the reasons why I keep a snack cart full of beverages, candy, snacks, etc. near the front door of my home all year for delivery drivers and I encourage friends to do the same. It’s the least we can do for those who work so incredibly hard to deliver our orders.
Or just not order from Amazon
Please don't contribute to the obese pandamic. Thanks
As a delivery driver for Amazon I am very happy and appreciate that you do that we go hours of not taking breaks because we simply don’t have the time I run out of things to drink and snack on then when I arrive to a customer house that does this I feel appreciated and like my hard work isn’t for nothing so I thank you soooo much ❤️
Shout out to you!!!
Omg thanks 🙏
Unfortunately, things will never change. And now is even worse than when this video was published. I'm driving buildings with multiple apartments(In Bonn, Germany), with 250-300 packages. 150-180 stops. After 2 months you're drained, tired and craving for less packages, because you can't handle the physic and mental pressure. All of this is not normal. They're not making a difference between a city and a village. It's not normal. They're not normal. And when you persuade your human rights, you're the bad guy -.- :/ I will be extremely happy to have a regional manager coming with me. It will be fun watching them scared :c It's literally, finding the package while i'm driving, arriving at the stop and jumping with the found package after pulling the handbrake and the car still sliding. Just to be on a schedule. I'm driving for a long time already and i have never seen such a thing.
Crazy thing is i just applied to become a Amazon driver and seeing all this negative stuff about it makes me second guess it
Does Amazon have actual DSPs in Germany or is it through other agencies like DHL, DPD etc I don't think I've seen an actual Amazon Prime delivery van in Germany.
@@JoshuaBartolomeu Amazon in Germany works only with DSP's and DHL. There are a few DSP's that have brandings of Amazon, but it's still DSP.
@@C0UNTL3ZZ Well, people often see the negativities after they start working for like 1 month or something. The first month is always good and with less packages.
I just started last week. I'm only doing nursery routes right now, ( 85 stops 130, packages) and I'm also detoxing from weed , so I'm drained. But I'm anticipating for those crazy routes. We'll see. Oh I'm in CT too.
This is insanity. Getting packages delivered to your door in one or two days is not worth what it takes to make that happen. I try not to order physical products from Amazon, but it has become such a retail monopoly that it’s hard to find many items locally.
Before Amazon, and the Internet as we know it, I used to order from catalogs and their estimated delivery time was between 4 to 6 weeks. If you ever find an old catalog, say from the '80s or early '90s, if it still has its order form inside, you will see that information on the form. And we didn't mind waiting for whatever clothes or devise we ordered.
Why isn't it worth what it takes? All of those drivers do it voluntarily.
And I mean, you can avoid Amazon in exchange for mom and pop stores if you'd like, but Amazon employs so many Americans, far beyond just drivers and warehouse workers. It's existence is putting food on so many people's tables.
@@craigape Nice try, Jeff.
@@craigape , yeah but those workers need protections and rights. Amazon is a huge monopoly, so much so that it narrows the choices workers have in so many places in the country. There’s also no telling the economic and environmental impact of overnight deliveries, and negative impact on drivers and their families. Like many other people, I’m compelled to buy from Amazon because it provides lower prices than other stores, but that still doesn’t mean that workers shouldn’t form unions and push for protections and rights.
Yeah the convenience of it is unmatched
"No liability is our top priority" - Amazon
🤣🤣🤣🤣
All we need to do is find a way for Jeff Bezos not to return back to earth when he launches next month.
Last year, I worked a for a DSP in Ohio.. for almost a yr.....my paycheck bounced 3x (I was reimbursed all 3x thru CashApp) and several other drivers checks bounced as well.....I loved it so much, I stayed almost a yr()....my particular Contractor(company owner) went Bankrupt....now, I see how all that probably happened.
I’m a software engineering for Amazon Web Services and even we are treated like crap. It’s literally project after project after project, I’m not a robot I’m a human. I left Amazon last year and work for JP Morgan. The salary is significantly less but I am treated like a valuable resource and that’s what I care about
Doesn't fintech pay better?
Congrats! U have to look out for yourself nowadays, because these employers will grind on you until you break.
Again another common sense example, a person did not like the working conditions and he left the company and went to work in another. How is that something hard to understand! No one is forcing anyone to work at Amazon or (any one employer), if u don't like the job, just quit.
@@AmrXcellent Without class struggle conditions will never improve.
@@AmrXcellent It's important to understand that most amazon workers genuinely don't have other options or those other options are horrid. I know now at least 10 of my friends who at one point worked for or are currently working for amazon and not a single one had anything positive to say about it and only worked there because they didn't have any other options available to them. It's awful and literally taking years off of peoples lives.
The fact they complained about 113 stops with 180 packages but that’s our learning routes now 😭 we do 150 - 220 stops and 250-400 packages now like what
The way I see it, only the boxes are smiling at Amazon.
Ha! I thought the very same thing!
The way I see it, these people have jobs. Congrats to them.
It’s a job … not a weekend in Vegas. Christ…
Great reference. And the bank account of Bezos. I have the same weird feeling with that smile like the "I'm loving it", "Just do it" or "Happiness" of some other big brands... It's a well advertised exploitation machine.
@@stankythecat6735 At least in Las Vegas one would be puking and peeing for better reasons and in the right places and the chances of getting payed decently are higher. Unlike in Las Vegas Casinos, you may even beat the system once in a while... In Amazon, the company and the boss win every time.
Shalene is crazy as hell. Let me get bit by a dog I am done for the day. She has more respect for this company than it has for her.
As I doctor I was shocked. dog (or any animal/human) bite needs urgent attention because the mouth has all sorts of germs +/- a shots against tetanus and rabies. She has a good heart, personality and work ethic though. I hope she gets a better job soon
@@NyanyiC I hope she gets a better job soon too, but from what I gathered this is the best job she's ever had. There may not be better jobs in her area.
Dog bit, and finished out her shift first B4 getting treatment! What-a-Woman!!👍♥️...🙏😺
@@yamaharider8014 I want to agree, but I also want people to stop putting their job before their health. That being said, we need a culture that puts health first rather than a culture that fires you for needing a meal break.
@@michaelbujaki2462 Amen!!!!
“Discounts on uniforms” hahaha that should be the company expense. What penny pinchers.
I agree, what a joke!! Also, is there anyone that is gonna buy a uniform other than an employee? Are people paying full price so that they can dress like amazon delivery driver?
@@seancolmes7527 likely no, because trying to order them probably is about 30 hoops to get through
One of the Amazon leadership principles is “Be frugal”. Penny pinching is in their DNA, lol.
Jeff is jewish
I guess for the rest of Amazon if you're not working under a good DSP. My DSP hands out branded masks and uniforms for free. We got free shoes of our choice as well and not charged for it.
I work for a DSP in Florida and this is 100% accurate. The gps are all garbage, the routes are planned horribly, they slam you with packages, especially on prime week, they say your routes are based on time and your breaks are scheduled with each route but they pretty much force you to not take a break if you plan on keeping up and finishing in a decent time but then they punish you again by making you do rescue routes so Esther way you aren’t getting done early , the pay is garbage and all you hear are complaints from the DSP about everything from the driving to missed packages or late packages then they wonder why the turn over is so high they over work you it’s not worth it .
I'm here in Chicago. Google Maps is way better. Wish they partnered with them.
I live in an area where one day shipping isn’t even available, and quite frankly, I wouldn’t want it. The stress that it must cause to workers isnt worth it to me. Just to have something a day or two sooner?! No thanks.
Dude it is stressful but I just recently buying stuff from amazon and if the one delivery is when I'm home then I will just take it which is a lot since I'm a sub for daycare so I'm home a lot here!
Fyne Gold Amazon will even give incentives for most items if you opt out of same day or one day delivery. They give you a coupon or gift code for $1 for every one day delivery of you opt out of. It adds up!
@@dewilew2137 then is the people’s fault
I refuse to buy items that dont have 1 day delivery.
1 day delivery is awesome
I quit. And I have a greater appreciation for these drivers.
Why did u quit
I wanna quit so bad
I quit as well, not too long after netradyne was implemented. I felt like my job was getting harder to do because of added restrictions. I could deliver much more and faster when during my first 6 months starting in June of 2020.
@@bLacksheep988 what you mean why????? 🤬🤬🤬
Man it's better jobs out there... I don't know yal situation... But listen it's better jobs out there... I quit and I didn't have another job or nothing...god will have to back long as you believe...you gotta care about yourself...love rules all...I got a job that next week...like right now I'm just sitting in my car getting paid...! I thought Amazon was the best job...bragging to my friends and family...but my safety matters more than anything 💯
It's almost like - I know this is a stretch, but go with me here - A small group of ultra wealthy people are ensuring that their low wage workers have no rights while watching them every second to make sure that the employees are making the most for the company with no care whatsoever for the employee should the employee become injured. At the same time, the company is desperate to prevent unions, remove competition through any means necessary and avoid imminent lawsuits in an effort to reduce the employees ability to leave the company. One would think that the U.S. would not be ok with a new incarnation of slavery. Literally Amazon is using slavery for profit, I'm not sure how people are ok with a company like this. Were we distracted by the yachts and the spaceships while this was happening?
Ya it was called "SLAVERY"!!!
This is why I never order things on Amazon unless I’m completely desperate. I wish more people would stop relying on Amazon.
Take out Amazon replace it with FedEx Express ta da it's all the same ask me how I know
@@johnnyq1233 They literally *GO AND SIGN UP* to work, definitely not slavery. People who act like the *only* open job is working for Amazon or w/e your personal preference "big bad company" is. It's voluntary work in return for money.
Careful your tinfoil hat is getting a little tight.
"...ultra wealthy people are ensuring that their low wage workers have no rights...." Like it was said before, there are plenty of other jobs out there, nobody is forcing anyone to work for Amazon.
".......an effort to reduce the employees ability to leave the company....." W T F are you smoking? Please read that out loud and hopefully you will hear just how ludicrous that statement is. Dont want to work for Amazon? Walk out the door and never return. Wow! See how easy that is to leave the company? Unless Amazon is chaining their employees or some other means of holding them prisoner, not exactly sure how a company can reduce an employees ability to leave the company......are you on drugs?
It's not just Amazon. UPS calls taking a bathroom break "stealing company time"
you know why right??? cuz the UPS van is a big ol cube truck......you can do "your business" inside without anybody looking in............
The sad truth is Amazon will go fully automated before they ever give one 💩 about drivers or warehouse workers
Right
“You want pee break?”
- 1000 jobs
“You are afraid of dogs?”
Hires 10,000 robots
“Bee boo bop?”
Takes over the world
What the heck happened to drone delivery?
@@daveheel the same thing that happened to the answer of your question.
@@Musikmaker658 that's really helpful.
*So this is how Jeff affords the Space program*
In other news: Water is wet.
This is how Jeff shut down all the businesses that used to pay a living wage like all the bookstores they had employees that can work at a bookstore make a living wage all gone hardware stores gone everything’s going bye-bye all that’s left is Jeff and Walmart
💯
@@keithhutchins8803 which hardware stores are gone?
@@keithhutchins8803 it’s what the customers want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There’s no such thing as “Free Shipping.”
If they offer it though, then YES, there is such thing as free shipping. It's just gonna cost a lot of effort to someone, somewhere.
Its not free to our bodies (Amazon DSP driver)
@@senam23 you must not know what free means free means it doesn’t cost anyone anything
Should be called free for you shipping not our workers
@@Really_jellis Nah, that's not what free means. If something is free, it means it didn't cost YOU anything. Otherwise the very word free wouldn't have a meaning, if nothing CAN be free. Everything was created or produced by something or someone. If you take that into consideration, NOTHING CAN be free (based on your opinion). What would the purpose of a word that cannot describe anything be?
I usually encounter one of two drivers that consistently deliver to my street. Always trying to be as courteous as possible and I never complain to them about anything that might be late. It's not their fault, and even if it was they're doing their best. For some reason the algorithm at Amazon just does not want to ship me my products in the fewest boxes with the fewest trips, so I'll see the same person come back sometimes three days in a row to deliver three small products that I had selected to come on one day in one box. Amazon needs to do better with their packing process so that these drivers can handle the volume more easily.
Screw 1 and 2 days delivery. People need to use proper Restrooms and have breaks to eat lunch. We all can wait for whatever crap we are ordering. Respect Human lives and they deserve Dignity!
They shouldn't have took the job
@@atlsupremeg7462 dude. its still messed up.
@@CreatingShane not when they have a choice
But I must have my things, now now now, I am special.
@@jerrypeukert5732 you paid for it, you should
"working under independent small businesses"
Translation: Temps without healthcare benefits, sick pay or paid vacations
Still these companies need to own up to their employees and stop playing the cowardly subcontract pretend game.
If you work for Amazon day in and day out, they choose your work and *they set your hours*, you're an Amazon employee. Whether they choose to call you one or not. Period.
Packages count my routes 200 to 250 and that 18 to 25 dollars an hour is an absolute joke.. bringing home maybe 400 weekly and not including the healthcare ... and with that included try 280 dollars weekly... smh
@Mike Studmuffin or they are just using it as a stepping stone… so once you work there you work there for life??? Y’know these people can quit at anytime and find something else. Heck, some actually like the job. Why are you talking down to them?
@@c.rutherford nope I am a felon. Sub contracting helps me provide for my family without a background check to say “no” to me.
Aka jobs that help felons provide for their families and go straight. Regular people who can work anywhere else shouldnt take these jobs.
113 stops? that's when you're starting to work with Amazon, then they give you 200+ stops and 350+ packages every day.
Right? Peak season never ended. They got us out here in AZ delivering over 300 packages a day in 117 degree weather. lol
Why are y’all complaining? You signed up for it lol. Y
@@ctrezzy11 you don't ever complain about your job? Go stand in the corner.
@@ctrezzy11 and Amazon isn't supposed to give you a route with over 200 stops so we actually didn't sign up for that BUT we still get the job done. You should probably know what you're talking about before you pop off.
@@draxx4978 He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
Sign out of the mentor app as soon as you load your packages
It always makes me laugh when companies say in prepared statements that "safety is their top priority." Don't lie Amazon, we all know that it's profit, profit, profit.
what else the company can do if it does not put profit in priority? They must gain as many profit as possible to pay salaries and provide a minimum safe environment in the workplace. You must know that US is among countries collecting the highest portion of taxes from the profit, so profit is the most important thing to consider when running the business although you are working under capitalism or communism.
You're saying this as if profit isn't directly connected to safety. A safe driver is much more profitable for Amazon than someone constantly getting into accidents or injured. They'll deliver more packages which results in more happy customers which means more profit.
It’s only as safe as the employees choose to make it. Working here I’ve seen paper cuts get reported as a safety incident so.
@@limitlessart6817 if they don't want to work for Amazon, then leave. It's a simple choice. Amazon is infamous for putting profit as its priority, so if anyone chooses to work for Amazon, particularly labors and drivers, then you have to be aware of that
@@TuanNguyen-uq8gz I work here and I’m telling you how it operates. There is a safety department that controls processes and implements changes but can only do so when employees come forward and complain to them about safety concerns.
As someone who has worked as an Amazon delivery driver for the last year, I can say that this is a fairly accurate video, however the package and stop load is very understated. Just last week I had over 450 packages in my route. My van was stuffed so full that I couldn’t get around inside of it. My shift ended up being an 11 hour shift, one where I didn’t have time to eat, or stop to use the restroom more than once. I wish I could say that that was a unique experience, but sadly that’s a daily thing when delivering for Amazon. It’s brutal work and I’m glad that I was finally able to put in my two weeks notice!
YES! Definitely I’m putting in my 2 weeks. It’s just overwhelming & I have no life!
Good 4 U....Im working on my exit stategy as I type this...lol
Its funny how Amazon can run you like that but MAKE truckers stop every 6 hours for a 30 minute break!
To freedom 🥺
my dad worked for an amazon dsp. it lasted maybe three months bc he realized how brutal the job was and how little the employers actually cared about the employees
Employers aren't your mama. Get over expecting them to be.
@Disguised Dv8ant that's what i meant. i just didn't word it properly thank you!
I lasted 3 days 😂😂
So people that don't like a job,lazy,etc. or too hard work for them they quit the job at a company.
How original.
Surely this has never happened before since the 1900s.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 i never mentioned anything about my fathers work ethic. just like in the video, it mentions how much work is placed on workers and their ridiculous expectations of deliveries per day that, yes, are met. but at what cost to the workers? especially without benefits. all i said was my dad had worked for one of their contracting companies and it was hell for him and his coworkers, just like the video mentions. that's what i meant with my original comment. thank you
I remember the same year this video came out, amazon lightened the total stops/packages we delivered, long enough for this to die down. A year later, they implemented more tech to squeeze out more productivity, more protocols, more scrutiny and the total stops and packages we deliver in a day is peak level. SINCE LAST WINTERS PEAK SEASON . They keep telling us that it's temporary and it's the algorithm, it's been 8 months of the same old same old. A lot of shady stuff is happening. Distractions prevent progress, and that's seen in the country today as well. It's a downhill trend.
This video is so funny because I used to work at Amazon and can confirm it's all true. I worked sortation and the drivers were some of the most nervous, angry, and anxious people you'd ever meet. We couldnt go home until every package was accounted for, and sometimes all that occurs is that the scanner just didnt register with Amazon systems even if it makes the confirmation beep. During the holidays we racked up to 20,000 packages per day. At the start of every shift, we did stretches and some kinda cheer for our sortation facility but then everyone's faces return to looking absolutely dead. I used to work at a factory making jewlery and NOBODY looked as dead as those people at Amazon. It is truly a profound experience.
This is true, I used to work part-time for an amazon warehouse as well and I swear it was the worst job I've ever done. The constant walking, bending, kneeling, the overtime was unannounced, they only told you 30 minutes before the shift ended that you'll have an additional 1 hour overtime, and most importantly, the pressure from your supervisors and the packages just keep on coming and jamming the conveyer belt. I can't even imagine people working full-time as sortation for amazon warehouse, respect to them honestly
Sounds like every job tbh lol
The people who sort the packages mess up the routes daily. That one of the reasons why drivers are angry.
Worked at Amazon a decade ago and couldn't even last a week. It was too much.
I work at an Amazon IXD warehouse and I really enjoy it.
I work at Amazon delivering for dsp and yeah Amazon fixing any issue is a joke. I usually don’t take bathroom breaks or eat in fear of being behind.the video couldn’t be more spot on.
Jorday Roark, every chance you get, look for another job. This is no way to work. Pass it on.
@@anthonybrowne3942 ots hiring HERE IN WINNIPEG MANITOBA CANADA BECAUSE THEY WILL OPEN AN AMAZON PLANT IN WINNIPEG ... WAS IT WORTH IT TO TRY TO APPLY?
As a USPS city carrier, I give you guys props for going through this madness......for less....you guys deserve better.
Deliver faster chump. My package took like a week from USPS.
@@munk3064 talk to your carrier chump.....I didnt deliver your package.
@@JPLMONEY23 I used priority service, but you lazy workers keep complaining yet don't deliver on time.
@@munk3064 Yea.....well not my problem....like I said I ain't your carrier.
I understand that USPS drivers have to go through hell as well because the systems they have in place is not the best neither, they have to sort their packages before they load them into the truck and most trucks are 30 years old, no a/c etc. So you guys are also working very hard as Amazon drivers and I hope this change someday for both companies. We have the technologies to improve everything we do around but the ethics of the company needs to improve as well. They only see how to make profits forgetting how difficult is the job for the driver no matter how much they pay them. Thanks for doing your best.
I’m a DSP driver in Jacksonville and man is this video spot on. It’s honestly worst for me cause I deliver in rural areas, where the people aren’t fond of blacks like myself.
“Cost structure” OKAY YALL really dancing around human rights huh
What do you mean? All the guy said was, if it costs the company something, they have to charge the customer.
@@jermainerace4156 he says this without blatantly saying that yes the trade off is basic human rights for the employees. Or should I say contractors so they don’t have to consider them employees
@@alidelatierra ...what human right? It's an employer, they give you money, not rights. As long as the contractors have the right to leave the job, there's no human rights violation.
@@jermainerace4156 that’s what you choose to believe i respect that but I believe something different, I’m not gonna try and convince you. have a good day🌞
@@jermainerace4156 Calling these human rights rather than employee rights may be incorrect, but normally employers have some level of duty of care requirement to employees - they're obliged to provide safety equipment, cover reasonable expenses, allow for time off, etc. Historically contractors were genuinely self-employed - take a plumber as an example. If you need plumbing work, you call them up; they're employing themselves so are responsible for their own safety, expenses, etc but can set their own prices and can refuse to take on the work you offer.
What we've seen a lot of tech and gig economy companies do is employ contractors who have no control over the work they do, no ability to set their own prices, but are expected to retain full responsibility for their own safety, expenses, etc. The companies involved maintain the polite fiction that these are contractors rather than employees, so as to evade responsibility as an employer and save money as a result (hence a large proportion of difference in costs for Amazon's DPS self-delivery versus using UPS, who employs its staff).
How sustainable this is remains uncertain - Uber, for example, has been losing landmark cases across the world on this point, with its contractors having repeatedly been ruled to be employees. Uber's response has been to frantically dissemble in the media, launch legal appeals or settle with the individuals out of court to delay or avoid being legally instructed to change their behaviour. Amazon's model is not a million miles different, albeit less exploitative in the round, and I'm sure they'll have been watching those cases like hawks.
What does anyone need in one day that is that urgent? I feel so bad for these amazon workers they are treated like crap
My pee bottle
Nothing
dog food
@@sertsj1 nothing in urgent need from amazon you got that right
@@waltervila33 go to the drug store and grab a pee bottle
Thats crazy how they're responsible for the maintenance of the vehicle. That, on top of everything else, is way wrong.
that, mon ami, is called bizness iz bizness.
Amazon can definitely afford to create a car shop/mechanic that maintains the vehicles.
Gambit is that you.?!? 😲
@@rayjameson937 gambit?
They are prepping for self driving delivery, maybe 4-6 years away. It’s a means for an end
I worked for amazon as a dsp for 6 months. The most annoying thing I’ve encountered was driving in dark areas or dirt roads when neighbors have their aggressive dogs outside or maybe your safety as at stake. Its a simple job yet all falls under whos your supervisor because you can get rushed to do 100-190 stops a day.
See? I just commented on this post saying that I haven't met one delivery driver that has lasted over 2 years working for Amazon. You've worked there for 6 months and my point still stands. I've been there for 3 months now and I'm getting sick of it already.
@@pandamilkshake Tbh its the same with every delivery service unionized or not. Im at the post office wishing we had vehicles with A/C with a similar amount in work load.
100-190 packages ain’t a lot lmaoooo I get over 300 packages and finish on time
Lol what? We deliver 300 packages a day here in Colorado. Luckily I work for a dope DSP. I've been working for this DSP for 2 years now and we have a great team, we get it done.
It's not about package numbers. It's about delivery numbers.
We in the UK deliver to around 240 stops a day. That could be 300 parcels.